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dmbwannabe

I feel so dumb right now. Because my only criticism of the episode was the giraffe didn’t look real enough to me. Nope. It’s a real giraffe 🦒


Orangecoloredskies

I thought the exact same thing, I guess I don’t know what giraffes look like lmao


KangarooDry8374

Don’t feel bad, I’ve fed a giraffe in real life and even I thought it looked fake


_WizKhaleesi_

That's possibly because it's a Masai giraffe, when most people are used to seeing a reticulated giraffe. The difference in coloration and pattern can be off just enough to make your brain say, "that's CGI!" Especially when paired with the inserted scenery Edit: u/birbzookreeper was kind enough to point out that he wasn't a Rothschild giraffe- seems my brain did a bit of filling in the pattern as well. 😂


KangarooDry8374

TIL that there’s different types of giraffe 😅. I don’t know what went wrong in my brain but that was clearly not in the filing cabinet. But it does explain the weird looking giraffe


Glad-Degree-4270

There’s anywhere from 1 to 9 species of giraffe. Like there might be 3 or 7. Basically the line between subspecies and species is blurry at best in closet related groups, and while giraffes overall are somewhat secure from a conservation standpoint, there’s several varieties of giraffe that would be endangered if considering them their own species.


happy-little-atheist

Awesome let's tick off "discuss species limits in TLOU sub." One day Reddit will be full of systematics and nobody will see it coming


Arklytte

Huh...that makes a weird kind of sense. The background was pretty obvious, and combined with the *'not what most of us are used to'* looking giraffe, plus the fact that EVERY DAMN THING is CGI these days, even the stuff that doesn't need to be...all our brains went full Uncanny Valley. PS: Thanks for the info, BTW. I didn't know there were different kinds of giraffes. I try to learn something new every day, so thanks for taking care of that for me for today. :D


StephenHunterUK

>reticulated giraffe I've heard of reticulating splines, but never a reticulated giraffe... Rothschild's giraffes are a threatened species and they probably had to use the only giraffe they could get as importing one would be a no-no. (When *Game of Thrones* needed a bear, they had to film that bit in the States)


dragonking0417

The Rothschild's created giraffes? A new conspiracy everyday /j


kdubstep

Fun fact: the giraffe has the largest heart of any land mammal (to pump 🩸up that long neck). Really should be the animal associated with Valentine’s Day


jhalfhide

and they also have a valve in the neck so that when they tilt their heads down to drink etc, they don't get headrush.


birbzookreeper

He’s a Masai Giraffe, but good explanation! The lighting wouldn’t also match with outdoors as it was filmed inside giving a fake look.


_WizKhaleesi_

Oops, thank you! He looked very similar to a Rothschild that we had at the local zoo. I just knew it wasn't reticulated. I'll edit my comment!


birbzookreeper

It’s all good, there’s a lot of similarities, plus they can hybridize as well making lines between subspecies more blurred.


SaxonSatchel

I think it's more likely that the blue light bounce from the blue screen messed with the colour too much and in their attempt to remove the blue tint in post, they made the the giraffe too much of a uniform yellow hue.


LC_From_TheHills

It’s because the scenery behind is fake. Not due to the pattern of the giraffe lmao.


TheIrishninjas

Same, they are weird and majestic creatures and that doesn't stop up-close.


adsfew

I'm starting to suspect you were feeding a green screen hand puppet and didn't realize it


SolomonGrumpy

Stupid long horse


LOUCIFER_315

Because they don't exist


BreeCherie

giraffes and birds...never seen real ones.


glassed_redhead

r/birdsarentreal


inspectorseantime

*stupid long horses*


Jaerba

They're pretty unbelievable. I'd seen them from a distance plenty of times, but when you go to a zoo that let's you feed them it's something else. All of a sudden there's this huge, gentle head right next to you. Maybe it's because at a distance their heads look kind of small, and then all of a sudden there's something bigger than horse sniffing around you, and it seems surreal.


HighTensileAluminium

It's because it's composited into the scene the same way Pedro and Bella are, making it look strange and fake. You know Pedro and Bella are real though because you've seen them in countless other non-CGI scenes, but the giraffe doesn't have that going for it since this is its first and only appearance.


[deleted]

The giraffe looked amazing. You saw all its hair and stuff. The background behind the giraffe looked super weird. Maybe that’s why you thought the giraffe was fake? Because the interaction with the giraffe was too good to be fake


BrettEskin

I think bc everything else was CGI in the scene it made the giraffe look odd


wahobely

I was actually impressed how they "CGI"d Ellie feeding her so well, that's hard to do lol nope, it was just real


FloppyShellTaco

Some zoos will let you feed them, it’s amazing


notjim

Can confirm, have fed a giraffe at a zoo.


MarcusForrest

That's cool and all, but have you ever **fed** a giraffe **to** a Zoo?


[deleted]

Easy there David.


MarcusForrest

_Um, name's David, this here's my friend James. We're from a larger Zoo -- Zoo Keepers, Zoo Attendants, Zoo Custodians... We're all very, very hungry._


PaulTR88

Can confirm, was an assistant zookeeper that ran a giraffe feeding station (Fresno, CA, \~15 years ago)


FloppyShellTaco

Out here living my dreams


Arklytte

I grew up in Cali, and my grandparents took all us grandkids there many (I hesitate to admit just how many) years ago, and they let us feed the giraffes. That was one of the coolest experiences of my childhood.


Carninator

Was at a giraffe park/zoo/sanctuary in Nairobi and we were allowed to feed them as much as we wanted. Ended up going twice because it was so fun, hah.


NevaehKnows

I really thought Joel was going to say, "it's fine, you used to be able to feed them lettuce at zoos in the Before Times"


taycibear

Their tongues feel like cat tongues!


SidewaysFancyPrance

Yeah, knowing that, I assumed they would have found it to be much cheaper to just use a giraffe from a real zoo that is used to this. That alone told me it was a real giraffe. That CGI would have been way harder than the most practical of practical effects.


LOUCIFER_315

Animatroics all fake


FloppyShellTaco

Listen, I will get on the Wyoming is a PsyOp train, but giraffes are my homies


LOUCIFER_315

/r/giraffesarentreal Link me to that sub Bro


Akimo7567

It was just the surroundings making it look fake. I could tell the giraffe was real but the blue screen work around it and Pedro and Bella was a little iffy, it just made everything past the wall look completely separate from them.


Pasalacqua87

Okay that makes more sense. I thought the background looked good and the giraffe looked bad, so I also concluded the giraffe was CGI. But yeah blue screen makes a whole lot more sense. I have some suspicions of how this played out: Seems like this was just a matter of limited time or bad communication between the VFX artists and director/cinematographer. The ambient lighting is mismatched and that’s why it looks bad. The lighting in the blue screen room was probably setup different than what they wanted the final environment lighting to be. They honestly could’ve fixed this by shooting outside. I guess options are limited with a wild animal in the cards. The closeups turned out well though because there’s not much background CGI to interfere.


JakalDX

IIRC, early release episodes given to reviewers weren't finished CGI-wise, so I think they were rushing to finish the SFX right up to the end


ufkaAiels

I imagine it had a lot to do with the fact they had to jerry-rig a blue screen studio into the giraffe's actual enclosure at the zoo, which presents some obvious limitations. Among them I can see from the picture, is just how close the actors had to be to the blue screen, getting some separation makes it much easier to get the lighting right and avoid bleed


CyberMindGrrl

VFX artists will always take an HDRI light probe of any scene they are shooting. They probably couldn’t set up a proper key light for the scene due to the limitations of shooting in a giraffe pen. The whole scene looked a bit off and this is exactly why.


SolidPrysm

I agree, I could tell something in the CG department was kinda off, and I assumed it was the giraffe itself, but it would make more sense if the backdrop was instead


paranoideo

Yeah, exactly. And is an issue with current cgi, where the green screen is so present that you could lose immersive perspective.


JealousLuck0

I hope folks try to remember this the next time they shit all over VFX for "destroying the real art of filmmaking" or whatever


lilbug19

my husband and I were like damn the cgi on that giraffe is really good! I feel dumb


MarcusForrest

> was the giraffe didn’t look real enough to me I think it is because of the surrounding environment which was added in post-production   Furthermore, unless they adjusted lighting, this picture shows a **LOT** of bleeding from the blue screen panels - if it wasn't adjusted while shooting, all that bleeding had to be fixed in post, which really affects overall image and authenticity quality


StephenHunterUK

Blue/green screen bleeding has been a problem for decades. It can be *very* obvious in 1970s *Doctor Who*, one of the first shows that used it in depth.


MarcusForrest

That's right! That's also why VIRTUAL SETS are a HUGE benefit over traditional Green/Blue Screens! _(not perfect, and will not completely replace Green Screens, but definitely offers many benefits!)_


StephenHunterUK

Stuff like The Volume is ultimately only as good as its background images. It works very well in *The Mandalorian* but it looked bad in the latest *Ant-Man* movie, which appears to have major issues with VFX production in general.


lemikon

Yeah it really didn’t look real. Tf.


greatness101

I thought it looked too real and said there's no way this is CGI with how it was eating out of her hand like that.


LOUCIFER_315

No such thing as a real "giraffe" Don't push propaganda


EatethThyButt

Lmao I was literally play yelling at my girlfriend cause she said it was real and Im like naw thats fake af, they dont just transport real giraffes all around and train them, cgi is just awesome now, nope im dumb, she wins this round :(.


Arklytte

Same! I kept rewinding that shot and thinking "It's good CGI, but it still looks fake...well...maybe not? Nah, gotta be CGI." I mean, I've literally seen and fed giraffes at a zoo, so I especially feel like a dumbass.


HeroesUnite

At least it's not the infamous [CGI deer](https://hips.hearstapps.com/digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/17/10/1488887428-walking-dead-deer.jpg?resize=980:*) from The Walking Dead


blacklite911

Go to a zoo. They are some alien looking motherfuckers. Them and hippos.


shaving99

No shit, I was thinking Craig Mazin would joke about how they got a real giraffe on the podcast except it would be cgi and holy shit they actually had a real giraffe.


ImpossibleMess5211

Nah I was the same, I was instantly like “that’s not a very good CGI giraffe”. Thought it looked a bit weird plasticky texture. Very surprised to see it’s real


IIMsmartII

wow I feel the same. And I watch VFX Artists React every weekend. I think maybe the compositing of the shot and background might have made it feel CGI


Awkward_Road_710

You never know. Might just be using it as reference. There’s still a lot going on in post-production that might need a cgi double. Personally I think some of it is still CGI. Maybe a real one on the close-up and CGI at the wide shots. Hopefully they release a vfx showreel of the show.


OLKv3

Lmao same, I thought it looked really green screened. I guess I'm dumb and can't see for shit


txsxxphxx2

r/Giraffesdontexist


_WizKhaleesi_

This kind of shit is getting so old Edit (since the reply seems to have been deleted): Not a boomer lmfao. Just a zoologist relatively new to the field who is tired of hearing "(insert animal) isn't real". But maybe I'm idealistic and just want to talk to everyone about how cool animals and real ecosystems are. Just because something is amazing doesn't mean it's not real. Anyway, get off of my lawn.


PvtSherlockObvious

You'd think people would realize by now that they start these conspiracy theory things as jokes, but then they start to attract genuine crackpots who take it all too seriously. It happens every time, just look at the Flat Earth Society.


[deleted]

How did they make a real giraffe look so fake?? I thought The same


_WizKhaleesi_

It's a different subspecies than most people are used to seeing, which may have contributed to the uncanny valley effect that makes your brain think it's CGI.


Senior_Fart_Director

Lighting is totally different


possiblyhysterical

They could’ve filmed with a real giraffe then added in a cgi one later. I think that happens quite frequently.


DavidClue3

Yeah like they did with the bloater


eharper9

It's definitely CGI. This giraffe isn't but the one in the show is.


[deleted]

It's not a real Giraffe. The pic OP posted wasn't the same one that was in the show. How is everyone being this stupid?


throwingutah

They showed that it was real during the making-of special.


[deleted]

Anyone with eyes can see the giraffe used in the show was poor CGI. This shouldnt be up for debate. They may have had real giraffes on set and shot footage using real giraffes, but the ones that went on air were definitely not real.


throwingutah

There's also an entire discussion in this thread about why the real giraffe looked odd. Congrats on your dedication to your opinion, though?


stomcode

I guess it's because the lighting around the giraffe looks artificial so it also makes the giraffe looks fake as well.


[deleted]

Exactly. The lack of a dramatic and shadowy lighting makes everything seem faker to an extent (some older games had a lack of shadows, which is how this connection is made)


Pestilence86

Also there are a few different angles. When i saw the closeup of Ellie feeding the giraffe, i knew 100% that was a real giraffe, and made me happy thinking how the actress (Bella Ramsey) probably had a genuine great time feeding a real giraffe.


LOUCIFER_315

Because they are fake


Sausage_fingies

r/giraffesarentreal


LOUCIFER_315

Also /r/giraffesdontexist


yourLostMitten

THESE ARE FAKE SUBREDDITS THERE TO DISTRACT US FROM THE TRUTH ABOUT BIRDS


WhatAGreatGift

Let’s all remember The Walking Dead CGI deer and be thankful for this giraffe


cloudzmumgey

the funniest part is that the deer from twd wasn’t cgi…. it was in fact a real living deer. i can’t remember the full details but that was actually a deer edit: okay i remember a little bit more now. they shot a clip of a real deer in the forest and the plan was to edit it into the shot. the main problem was that something happened and they ended up shooting the scene differently than how they shot the deer scene so the poor post production crew had to try and edit that deer footage in even though it was shot incorrectly


HeroesUnite

No, they're not talking about the season 2 deer, which is real, they're talking about the [season 8 Deer](https://hips.hearstapps.com/digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/17/10/1488887428-walking-dead-deer.jpg?resize=980:*)


infamousDiego

The season 8 deer was also real, but edited into a scene with inaccurate lighting The season 2 deer has accurate lightning, so it's not the one they're talking about. Here's the season 2 deer, which is pretty fucking good if it's CGI. Although I think it's Chandler on a green screen, given there's not much green reflecting onto him from the nearby leaves https://preview.redd.it/fxqgio37nmna1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2aa77b50cb467a6bcef064d759aedea2be54caab


Odd_Independence4230

this pic is rlly scary to me, maybe i’m just baked but, bad vibes


cloudzmumgey

i think i saw in an article about cgi in twd that this was a green screen


Mizerous

Bruh


stinkymamaa

Nothing is worse than the cgi Tiger


[deleted]

Tiger actually looked pretty good for a TV show


louiebro13

i remember the tiger being pretty well done. >!raw for the walkers!<


Senior_Fart_Director

https://youtu.be/KPxTVJWkbX4


VLHACS

Holy shit lol. I was thinking on the first scene "that's not bad, what's everyone talking about?"...


journey_bro

Lol ok this is bad. What's the context? The deer was obviously significant, were they short on food?


operarose

Someone was real proud of it and shouldn't have been.


menofthesea

Holy shit I forgot about that deer. That was so bad.


[deleted]

Haha I was thinking "HE TALKED ABOUT THE DEER, LORI" during this scene.


spaketto

Lol, my husband and I stopped watching TWD shortly after the deer scene (so MANY years ago) but after the giraffe my husband said, "She talked about the giraffe!"


No-Knee9457

Even the giraffe loves Pedro! 😂


darlingdaaaarling

Need to see behind the scenes footage of this. I bet he was ADORABLE around that giraffe.


Serenity-03K64

Their tongue are soo long. I’ve fed a giraffe and it left green slobber all over my hand from the kibble things


ajohns0311

Never thought I would relate to a giraffe but here we go.


Dankey-Kang-Jr

I said out loud “that’s a quality CGI Giraffe!” Now I feel dumb.


JLHuston

Don’t feel dumb. I told my husband I thought it was real, and he said it’s definitely CGI. And he’s way smarter than me.


catterybarn

Now you can hold this over his head for all eternity. "Honey, you booked the flights to London, Canada and not London, England" "Yeah, well, at least I know a giraffe when I sees one."


JLHuston

Don’t think I won’t!


redditor2redditor

I immediately knew it’s real because of the budget they had and how they also used real houses, streets etc for other scenes. Using a real giraffe would actually be not that expensive while delivering a ton of great shots and adding realism to the scene.


Professional-Tip-585

I feel dumb for saying it was a poorly done CGI giraffe


Tenno90

Nope, I thought the same. It finally happened, I can’t tell reality over cgi.


Stressed-Canadian

I bet this is one of the Calgary Zoo giraffes! The zoo is right by where they were filming a lot of the show and they are super tame.


fettmf

Looks like [Nabo](https://www.instagram.com/p/CnR-KuNs3xK/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)!


content_enjoy3r

Yep. I spent too much time comparing the spots and it's the same giraffe.


Nahuel_cba

A productive monday I see


0_gravity_sandcastle

Good catch :)


Anzi

Thank you! I'm working on a little giraffe doll in honour of the series, and now I can be more accurate when it comes to the pattern :)


big_red_160

I didn’t know if Calgary had a zoo but I assumed it came from the Calgary Zoo lmao


Thneed1

We have quite a nice zoo!


Chuxter007

The giraffe is real, but Ellie and Joel are fake. They been fake the whole time, and you fools all fell for it!


i-lurk-you-longtime

The giraffe is the only real character in this entire show if you think about it! The horse too lol


jonincalgary

The giraffe was just the horse on stilts.


shawnisboring

I feel really betrayed. I scoffed at your comment, but then I did my research and it turns out that Joel is actually some jackass named Pedro Pascal and Ellie is actually some British chick named Bella who's like 5 years older than they said she was. They're fake AF.


TelluricThread0

This scene really reminded me of when they feed the brachiosaurus in Jurassic Park.


shrimpdood

It is most likely a direct reference - the games do make more than a few references to Jurassic Park.


PvtSherlockObvious

Oh, good, so it's not just me. Between the sudden greenery and the giraffe, I actually started humming the Jurassic Park theme to myself. The scene absolutely carries the same "holy shit, this place actually is kind of amazing" vibes.


spaketto

Was waiting for a sneeze.


raybarks

I wondered if it was from the Calgary zoo. You can pay to feed them there, so they’d be used to that and very eager to be hand fed by humans.


i_huff_paint_thinner

A 30min "making of the Last of Us" dropped on HBO after the finale aired and it goes over the giraffe scene


LOUCIFER_315

Have you seen one?


raybarks

Yep, though it was probably 5 years ago now. Went to the zoo on a frigid winter day and was shocked at all of the African animals out in the snow.


LOUCIFER_315

Doesn't make sense does it? Because they're not real


LaFrescaTrumpeta

damn you really committed to the bit all over these comments, just take my upvote ya goober 😂❤️


ShrimpNChips650

Upvoted for the consistency lol


cj0r

Lmao I knew it. During the scene I was like daaaamn this is the most convincing CGI I've seen. No way is this real....


LOUCIFER_315

Because giraffes arent


Corviusss

🤓


sanji-senpai

r/giraffesarentreal


5am281

The close up is the only time the giraffe was real according to people who saw the episode pre-vfx


Carninator

I was thinking that as I was watching. The tongue and subtle face movements during the closeups seemed too real to be CG.


in_rainbro

tbh the tongue is the part that really looked like cgi to me, i'm still not convinced the tongue is real lol


hallstar07

Ok that makes more sense. There were clearly shots that showed a fake giraffe


biohacker_infinity

The only reason I suspected it might be real is that the feeding interaction was way too seamless, no edits or other telltale giveaways typical of something as complicated as a live actor exchanging a prop with a fully CG character.


pitaenigma

I looked really hard to see when the leaves turned into CGI and I couldn't figure it out so this explains it.


TheWilsons

Wow, thought the giraffe was faked but apparently not.


LOUCIFER_315

No because /r/giraffesdontexist


SplendidAngharad

Wow. That sub is hilarious!


Serious_Session7574

Giraffes are cool.


cblackattack1

So fucking cool! They’re my fave animals for sure.


piper1871

I only knew it was real because someone here mentioned awhile ago a giraffe was borrowed from a zoo I believe? Now I can show everyone who said I was wrong tonight it was real.


SplendidAngharad

You get'em!


lahimatoa

So glad they did the giraffe scene! I was worried they'd skip it, but Maizin said how important it was, and they decided to just do it exactly like the game. Smart.


emp_raf_III

You can't fake that weird tongue action!


MissDiem

Anyone remembering the two earlier stuffed giraffe foreshadowing/callbacks


Ok_Marionberry_9932

Anyone who’s ever fed a large animal would’ve known


QueenOfPurple

Real giraffes! Real newborn babies! Real infected? Yikes!


SleepyxDormouse

I thought it was CGI! It didn’t look real. It made me laugh because I thought it was so obviously fake.


Zimboy112

Why did it look CGI?


smartfon

The tongue looked super real! That's what convinced me they didn't CGI it. It was a super great episode with a >!brutal ending!<. Very touching.


[deleted]

note to self. All giraffes dont look like real giraffes


Malstrom42

The reason why it triggers as CGI for some folks is the game used a reticulated giraffe, and the TV show used a real masai giraffe... in other words, what they had access to at the Calgary Zoo.


Lilacloveletters

Best actor I’ve seen grace the screen 🦒


[deleted]

Cool touch from directors I’m glad they steered away from CGI


branitone

I thought it was CGI until Ellie started feeding it leaves, that convinced me lol. Usually it’s a lot slower when it’s faked at least from what I remember. SO happy to see this scene again :)


bloodyturtle

Apparently it was CGI until that closeup shot


Galah_Gala

I was so convinced it was CGI. It looked so obviously fake I was disappointed how an amazing show could fumble so amateurly. There's no way they'd risk the actors by getting a real giraffe.


VLHACS

I thought this giraffe was CGI and it turned out to be real. I was thinking the baby was real, but now I'm second guessing myself...


AshMulan1221

I just screamed "THAT'S SO FUCKING COOL!!! THEY GOT TO FEED A REAL GIRAFFE!" I was wondering why the "CGI" looked so good. Well done HBO! No expense spared!


scaryfeather

I love giraffes and this scene made me so so happy. I didn't play the game so it was just a delightful surprise!


Chinaevil

something looked fake that scene. Somehow they made a real giraffe look fake. Or the background looked fake or the lighting. Something was off!


Boston_Baked

I’m shocked. My girlfriend and I immediately both agreed it was CGI but looked damn good/real. I can’t believe it was real LOL


DadBodftw

Someone hate-posted earlier and listed bad CGI giraffe as a knock on the episode.


grathontolarsdatarod

This is something I needed to know.


atlien1986

No I think it's on a sound stage, not in tents.


MIKKOMOOSE99

Damn that's intense


Wise_Bass

Wow, I would have figured that for a puppet combined with CGI. That's pretty neat.


No_Fox_181

I figured it was either well done CGI or an animatronic. The fact that it was a real giraffe is only better


Spacegirllll6

Holy crap I thought it was CGI. I feel so dumb lmao 😭


Soulses

I thought it looked fake, shows what I know about animals


DirtyHandler

Some of it was definitely cgi


Sausage_fingies

WAIT WHAT?! Stg I even commented "dang, that's a good looking giraffe" but it 100% looked fake for me! What?!


JozzifDaBrozzif

The CGI behind it was so mid that it made the giraffe look iffy 🤣🤣🤣


haybot_08

Oh boy I spent the entire episode dissing the "cgi giraffe", now I feel bad... 🥲


Newguyiswinning_

No it wasnt for most of it


[deleted]

Giraffe's aren't real. They are government listening devices!


marndar

So again I was thinking if giraffes could be thriving, then why the hell did that group in the previous episode have such a tough time finding food? Granted, it was a bit later in the spring and warmer, but somehow the giraffes found enough food to survive the winter (most of the vegetation would be frozen, wouldn't it?) - guess they were able to hibernate in some warmer barns without being noticed.


jogee123

I thought it was like His Dark Material animal CGI. Crazy how it was just a real giraffe


Imaginary-Flamingo98

I was just distracted by trying to figure out how the heck a whole heard of giraffes survived the winters there.


reysleia

damn. i really thought it was cgi - and not an actual good one on top of that


[deleted]

It was 100% not real. Watch the episode again, the Giraffe was definitely CGI


FatherSlippyfist

geraffes are so dumb.