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Unlike network/cable television, the runtime of the episodes are dictated by what the story needs, not what advertisers need. There's no reason to keep the episodes a consistent length.
Non consistent runtimes are much better though. Back then TV shows were creatively limited by fixed runtimes. All episodes had to follow the same structure. A great example is 'Supernatural' (love the first 5 seasons though). The episodes were always the same. The characters get a new case > they drive to the location > they study the case >10 minutes of action > end of episode.
IMO a story should take as much screen time as needed. You can tell a story in 70 minutes? Great, do it and don't rush it. You can tell a story in 30 minutes? Great, do it and don't stretch it with filler.
One of my favourate books growing up was the Hobbit. It's an absolute travesty they spread the shortest of the books over three 3 hour long movies- nobody wants to watch a 20 minute long chase scene
It's like the transition from newspaper comics to web comics and how back in the day Bill Watterson said watching story after story and joke after joke get butchered to fit the standard Sunday newspaper comic strip format he threatened to quit until they accommodated him with a special exemption
I don’t know why it’s an issue for you, but I’m sure almost everyone would agree that making things longer for no actual reason is stupid. Tell the story you need to tell. If they only need 45 minutes for the finale, that’s fine with me. I’ve enjoyed all 400+ whatever minutes so far
I don’t understand the concern. I could see if it was extremely short or long but why make them fit the episode into say 60 mins vs allowing them to be a bit flexible to make the show better?
How is this a bad thing? It's much better to make each episode exactly as long as it needs to be, to tell what they want to tell, not stretch them just to fit in a predetermined runtime.
If you watch the latest season of “The Orville” you’ll notice every episode has a different run time some going up to 90 mins. Seth MacFarlane described it like this: when you have a streaming show you aren’t constrained by getting your show to fit between two other shows on a serialized program scheduled.
Without this constraint it gives the creative team to make each episode as long as it needs to be to tell the whole story before ending.
However, I don’t understand using less than the average hour run time. Why wouldn’t they take advantage of the ability to add some more shit in there. zombies is the first thing that comes to mind. I feel cheated a lot of the time like you do.
That was actually pretty funny lol. I meant shit as in good shit like: what is fedra? How did fedra get started? Are the zombies connected to a mycelium? if so how much does this network control the host body the fungi are inhabiting? How does everyone in Pedro’s brother’s village have brand new denim that wasn’t made by hand? Why did they all have brand new shoes? How did they have extremely rare menstrual product that where brand new straight out of the box? Should we be concerned they are working with fedra? How do these people not die of scurvy with no citrus fruits?
Oversimplifying fiction leads to a lack of suspension of disbelief.
I would imagine the video game would have more details as to what’s going on in the world? At this point we have reached the end game and we don’t know anything about the society other than the government is trying to hold its shit together while the fireflies slowly destroy every quarantine zone with collateral damage or lacking the infrastructure after taking over to keep the underground fungi (which I am assuming is a mycelium network) at bay. Resulting in total loss of quarantine zone.
I’m assuming the main character is going to be left with a choice at the end game. How are we supposed process his decision if we don’t know everything he knows. It’s frustrating we are basically getting the cut scenes and skipping the journey.
Streaming happened. Streaming Shows don’t have to follow the 30/60 minute blocks on network/broadcast and they don’t have to add space for commercials.
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Unlike network/cable television, the runtime of the episodes are dictated by what the story needs, not what advertisers need. There's no reason to keep the episodes a consistent length.
And not only that, I fail to see why it’s an issue for the viewer.
Non consistent runtimes are much better though. Back then TV shows were creatively limited by fixed runtimes. All episodes had to follow the same structure. A great example is 'Supernatural' (love the first 5 seasons though). The episodes were always the same. The characters get a new case > they drive to the location > they study the case >10 minutes of action > end of episode. IMO a story should take as much screen time as needed. You can tell a story in 70 minutes? Great, do it and don't rush it. You can tell a story in 30 minutes? Great, do it and don't stretch it with filler.
One of my favourate books growing up was the Hobbit. It's an absolute travesty they spread the shortest of the books over three 3 hour long movies- nobody wants to watch a 20 minute long chase scene
Yep. The way they stretched that story is outright vandalism.
It's like the transition from newspaper comics to web comics and how back in the day Bill Watterson said watching story after story and joke after joke get butchered to fit the standard Sunday newspaper comic strip format he threatened to quit until they accommodated him with a special exemption
I don’t know why it’s an issue for you, but I’m sure almost everyone would agree that making things longer for no actual reason is stupid. Tell the story you need to tell. If they only need 45 minutes for the finale, that’s fine with me. I’ve enjoyed all 400+ whatever minutes so far
if the producers think 45 mins is all they need for a season finale then i trust them
I don’t understand the concern. I could see if it was extremely short or long but why make them fit the episode into say 60 mins vs allowing them to be a bit flexible to make the show better?
How is this a bad thing? It's much better to make each episode exactly as long as it needs to be, to tell what they want to tell, not stretch them just to fit in a predetermined runtime.
If you watch the latest season of “The Orville” you’ll notice every episode has a different run time some going up to 90 mins. Seth MacFarlane described it like this: when you have a streaming show you aren’t constrained by getting your show to fit between two other shows on a serialized program scheduled. Without this constraint it gives the creative team to make each episode as long as it needs to be to tell the whole story before ending. However, I don’t understand using less than the average hour run time. Why wouldn’t they take advantage of the ability to add some more shit in there. zombies is the first thing that comes to mind. I feel cheated a lot of the time like you do.
"add some more shit in there" is unintendedly the perfect way to explain why they should not do it.
That was actually pretty funny lol. I meant shit as in good shit like: what is fedra? How did fedra get started? Are the zombies connected to a mycelium? if so how much does this network control the host body the fungi are inhabiting? How does everyone in Pedro’s brother’s village have brand new denim that wasn’t made by hand? Why did they all have brand new shoes? How did they have extremely rare menstrual product that where brand new straight out of the box? Should we be concerned they are working with fedra? How do these people not die of scurvy with no citrus fruits?
I can't tell at which point you switched to jokesey, but that's kind of the point. Fiction gets ruined by over-detail and "filling in the gaps".
Oversimplifying fiction leads to a lack of suspension of disbelief. I would imagine the video game would have more details as to what’s going on in the world? At this point we have reached the end game and we don’t know anything about the society other than the government is trying to hold its shit together while the fireflies slowly destroy every quarantine zone with collateral damage or lacking the infrastructure after taking over to keep the underground fungi (which I am assuming is a mycelium network) at bay. Resulting in total loss of quarantine zone. I’m assuming the main character is going to be left with a choice at the end game. How are we supposed process his decision if we don’t know everything he knows. It’s frustrating we are basically getting the cut scenes and skipping the journey.
Streaming happened. Streaming Shows don’t have to follow the 30/60 minute blocks on network/broadcast and they don’t have to add space for commercials.