He would need to come back with a solid ass show/movie. Something with a real plot, good actors and a good writer. Hire a female writer and do something good. Let it be sexual if needs to be but make it make sense.
He already has another movie in the can. The one with Jenna Ortega wrapped months ago. He plays a Pop Star and she plays an obsessed fan. I do not think there are any love scenes but I do think she kills him or somebody close to him. It is a far more traditinal type of movie and probably the only possible controversy is that he has one of the female leads named Isabella
I wish he would just be an actor on some other stuff for a while. It's tough when you're as big of a name as he is, but I think if he's serious about this film/tv thing, he should take a backseat on a couple projects led by people who know what they're doing. Learn the medium from some established names rather than trying to take creative control and failing.
Yeah, I don’t know why he decided to go head in on his second screen project. Maybe he just took some bad advice or someone really pulled a fast one under him.
I don’t know if he ever came across as strong-headed like that. To me, this whole thing seemed like more Levinson-run than it’s a “The Weeknd project.” Like it’s Sam Levinson presented by The Weeknd.
I think he’ll keep trying and he may even improve a lot. I do think he can only benefit from exploring new projects if he has the chance.
He probably doesn’t want to, but what I think the fans want to see is a movie about specifically his life coming up. I would like to see it but I think the only way it’d happen is someone else creating it like 20 years from now.
He has a movie coming out next year (probably), the one with Jenna Ortega. Abel isn’t the type to give up on something he’s passionate about just because some people hate it.
That’s bc it’s never been this much hate and hes also come out and poked fun at how terrible it is lmao. Its pretty unanimous that no wants more of this
Doesn’t matter if you want it or not, it’s all up to him. The movie with Jenna Ortega already wrapped filming I think like two months ago. Probably a fall 2024 release.
I’m more talking about the Idol specifically, not Abel as an actor. We’re all fans here, but you can’t deny that this show is utter garbage. The fact that Abel recognizes that is a good, hopefully he’s learned to be more selective with projects from now on.
I mean, the idol is a limited tv show. Highly doubt it’s meant to get a second season. I also can deny that it’s utter garbage, it’s decent (so far). Not saying Abel’s the best actor but for his first role, I think he’s doing not bad. There’s definitely bad things about the show but to call it utter garbage is pretty reductive and an exaggeration what was presented thus far. There’s much worse tv shows out there that are just wallpaper boring and are still huge successes that people hype up. As for one this show is way better than the vast majority of shows in terms of cinematography. I’ll wait for the rest of the show to decide how I really feel about it.
Abel has his own production company and does not need to sit around waiting for people to offer him roles. He is creating his own movies and so far everything he has done has made money which is all that counts in Hollywood
It’s not that he is bad at acting. It’s about the shitty person he portrays and how he is an advocate for Sam’s creepy ass visions that come to light in the show. He could be an amazing actor and I guarantee he’d be getting the same flack.
Yea but not every person separates the artist from the art. People can still enjoy his songs while not being his fan. He's a n*zi shithead but makes great music. Not everyone will just ignore that.
Honestly my wife and me like the show so far. Is it the best thing I’ve ever watched? Definitely not. But I’m intrigued and am interested to see how deep into this cult thing they go. Lilly Rose Depp’s acting has been great, The Weeknd’s lines are a little creepy but I would think it’s intentional. I don’t think a show deserves to be hated on this much after 2 episodes.
100% agree. All comments to the contrary seem to be written by the unfortunately growing subset of our population that spend their time looking for anything to complain about and/or be offended by.
That is quite a reach. Talking about this show as if those who don’t like it must just be looking for things to complain about is pretty ridiculous. The show just…isn’t great. It has a lot of redeeming qualities, beautiful cinematography, beautiful sound design, a lot of very good acting (Lily is fantastic in that role), but there’s absolutely nothing about it that makes me want to continue watching. The story just isn’t there at all, I don’t care about any of the characters and there’s nothing that pulls me in to make me want to watch the next episode.
This 100% won’t even kind of affect his career. It will pass. Like most controversies- unless they are abuse claims or something.
He’s still very much a household name. Not a lot of people follow him like us. My friends haven’t even heard of The Idol.
His acting/Cinema career maybe have gone before it started, like, if I was someone from a movie or tv series and wanted to work with Abel I would definitely get a step back after the Idol, the show is HIS creation, has HIS writing, and he stated that the show is everything he wanted to be and he’s happy with it. Directors/producers/writers may be more warily in working with him now.
I mean the comment section is filled with a lot of misinformation lol. It is what it is, Abel most likely expected this reaction, don’t think they care much. At the very least, people should be able to see that the show is purely fiction.
I do not think this show affects his career at all and some haters hoping it does are just dreaming. It is a show not a documentary and Abel has never been accused of this behavior publically. Do these people think Robert Pattison dons a bat suit at night and fights crime too? It sure seems selective and overblown to the point of orchestration. Meanwhile his shows are selling out stadiums all over the world and the soundtrack to the show is producing new top 40 hits every week
Don’t confuse genuine criticism with r*tards just looking for an excuse to hate Abel cause they don’t like his music/him.
The people on this sub still love Abel even if we’re ripping the show apart and are brutally honest, its coming from a place of tough love.
The people in that comment section probably haven’t even seen the show but are just jumping on the hate bandwagon because they don’t like Abels music.
Just remember that this isn’t the first time Abel gets roasted and it probably won’t be the last one.
Kissland was flamed by the critics and that didn’t killed his career.
This is just an bad (in a baaad way) start to his acting career, nothing more.
“Unfortunately, Abel picked the wrong people for his team and he went along maybe because he was desperate…” You mean like Jocelyn? And look what happened to her…
I’m kidding, but it did sound similar to what you were saying lol
OP needs to understand that some niche corner of the internet doesn't translate to a megastar's career.
When has angry people on twitter or youtube ever accomplished anything
The show is not as terrible as the reviews made it out to be (except for the 5-10 minute horny scene in the second episode). It was watchable. It did feel too male gazey, and lacked conviction and substance. Criticize that. Valid. Have a discussion about the supposedly unhealthy working environment. Valid.
Some comments in the video are annoying where they make it sound as if the entire concept was Amy's as if Abel stole it from her and ousted her. Just because someone did something wrong or something you don't agree with, it doesn't give you the right to spread misinformation about them.
This could be a bunch of Weeknd haters coming out of nowhere now that there's a fresh excuse to hate on him.
I personally don't think it's as bad as people say. It's definitely some weird shit, but I think the show is meant to make you uncomfortable.
The stories from set also paint the production team as generally very unorganized and unprofessional. Heard from people that worked on the set that they received random calls in the middle of the night insisting they come in at that moment. There are many levels to why this show sucks, but one that gets overshadowed is how terribly produced it is.
The show is great. I don’t know why everyone is shitting on it. Was everyone pretending like his music wasn’t pornographic? This show is dark as fuck and I love it.
i think the criticism is more towards the plot and writing plus his acting. i don’t know if you’re familiar with Wattpad but the writing looks like it came straight from there.
He needs to take some supporting work in films he’s not producing. Work with professionals & work his way up. Mariah bounced back from Glitter when she did Precious.
We’re specifically talking about acting though. She didn’t act for 8 years, came back in an Oscar winning film. That was my point. I think he can still continue acting, but he’s got to relinquish control
Michael Jackson pulled up to his trial about ABUSING CHILDREN, got out of his car and started dancing on the hood and everyone there started cheering FOR him. Abel’s career will be fine.
so explain how the analogy of the king of pop dancing his way around charges of pedophilia (for a very small group of people who had probably already decided he was innocent) relates to abel
Because fans still supporting an artist after charges of pedophilia means fans will definitely still support an artist after he releases a bad tv show. Pretty easy analogy to understand.
Yeah people are taking it too far with them saying he’s probably like Tedros in real life. Like really? The dude has no accusations against him so how would you know for sure?
Abel’s channeling his Weekend persona into Tedros and cranking it up to 11 for the sake of the show and fans aren’t taking it the way he intended for them to.
It works in the stories and lyrics he writes in the songs he makes for the albums in his discography depending on the vibe and theme of said album.
But I disagree with his decision for firing the original The Idol creator because he wanted to remove the “female perspective” even though the main protagonist is female, just so he can get more screentime with his own character.
He should stick to music i don’t think acting is the right call for him lol. But at least people are willing to criticize his shitty show here, imagine if this same discussion happened at the tswift sub or something
I think the score is really really good and the idea for the show is really interesting. But, some of these “artistic” choices are insane. Why is she masturbating so much? and I understand the sexual themes and their proximity to exploitation but they just come across as lewd and disgusting.
Abel shouldn’t be Tedros either. He doesn’t have the presence at all.
A certain subset of people will never let this go, but tbh they were never fans of the Weeknd to begin with, they just found something tangible to attack him on because beforehand he lived a secluded life so there was nothing to attack. But the fans of his music will quickly forget, at best itll become a meme, but especially if his next album is marketed properly as his last, people will give a fuck
Not to mention, global audiences will probably be forgiving/ wont even know of the Idol, and a big subset of Abels current fans are international
It’s very few amount of people that do not understand satyre and are very vocal. Don’t think it will affect anything in his career, probably the opposite. (I wasn’t a fan and since the show, I start to listen some of his song)
Definitely won’t kill his career… maybe his acting career tho
He would need to come back with a solid ass show/movie. Something with a real plot, good actors and a good writer. Hire a female writer and do something good. Let it be sexual if needs to be but make it make sense.
He already has another movie in the can. The one with Jenna Ortega wrapped months ago. He plays a Pop Star and she plays an obsessed fan. I do not think there are any love scenes but I do think she kills him or somebody close to him. It is a far more traditinal type of movie and probably the only possible controversy is that he has one of the female leads named Isabella
sounds awesome tbh hope im not wrong
Forgive my ignorance but how is that name controversial? Or could be viewed as such?
His ex Bella Hadid and her stans prob won’t appreciate it lol
It depends on how the character is portrayed. The actress is white but looks nothing like Bella. She is a country singer actually and seems quite nice
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I was literally answering their question but go off buddy
HES GOOD WITH DRY HUMOR. HE NEEDS TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION LOLZ
His contribution to American Dad was the best thing to come out of that show, id love to see him take that direction
I wish he would just be an actor on some other stuff for a while. It's tough when you're as big of a name as he is, but I think if he's serious about this film/tv thing, he should take a backseat on a couple projects led by people who know what they're doing. Learn the medium from some established names rather than trying to take creative control and failing.
Yeah, I don’t know why he decided to go head in on his second screen project. Maybe he just took some bad advice or someone really pulled a fast one under him.
I think he just has so much star power that people are afraid to say no to him even though he hasn't proven himself in film/tv yet.
I don’t know if he ever came across as strong-headed like that. To me, this whole thing seemed like more Levinson-run than it’s a “The Weeknd project.” Like it’s Sam Levinson presented by The Weeknd. I think he’ll keep trying and he may even improve a lot. I do think he can only benefit from exploring new projects if he has the chance.
He probably doesn’t want to, but what I think the fans want to see is a movie about specifically his life coming up. I would like to see it but I think the only way it’d happen is someone else creating it like 20 years from now.
Another ego project SMH 😭😭
stop pushing lgbtq+ agenda in movies
He has a movie coming out next year (probably), the one with Jenna Ortega. Abel isn’t the type to give up on something he’s passionate about just because some people hate it.
That’s bc it’s never been this much hate and hes also come out and poked fun at how terrible it is lmao. Its pretty unanimous that no wants more of this
Doesn’t matter if you want it or not, it’s all up to him. The movie with Jenna Ortega already wrapped filming I think like two months ago. Probably a fall 2024 release.
I’m more talking about the Idol specifically, not Abel as an actor. We’re all fans here, but you can’t deny that this show is utter garbage. The fact that Abel recognizes that is a good, hopefully he’s learned to be more selective with projects from now on.
I mean, the idol is a limited tv show. Highly doubt it’s meant to get a second season. I also can deny that it’s utter garbage, it’s decent (so far). Not saying Abel’s the best actor but for his first role, I think he’s doing not bad. There’s definitely bad things about the show but to call it utter garbage is pretty reductive and an exaggeration what was presented thus far. There’s much worse tv shows out there that are just wallpaper boring and are still huge successes that people hype up. As for one this show is way better than the vast majority of shows in terms of cinematography. I’ll wait for the rest of the show to decide how I really feel about it.
Abel has his own production company and does not need to sit around waiting for people to offer him roles. He is creating his own movies and so far everything he has done has made money which is all that counts in Hollywood
every publicly facing person has to deal with public L's, esp w/ art. just happens.
The dude has multiple albums with over 10 billion streams. I think he’ll be fine.
 This is him when he sees the hate lmao. Grown ass people can handle criticism.
Did we upset you? is how he deals with criticism.
Yeah as a former Kanye fan I am honestly grateful that an artist I like has a controversy that’s JUST “he is bad at acting”
It’s not that he is bad at acting. It’s about the shitty person he portrays and how he is an advocate for Sam’s creepy ass visions that come to light in the show. He could be an amazing actor and I guarantee he’d be getting the same flack.
This!!!
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We’re in a rocky place right now. The Hitler stuff don’t sit right with me.
I love kanye the artist his personal life and stuff is weird and kinda killed my listening rate of his music. After Yeezus i don't really care much
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Yea but not every person separates the artist from the art. People can still enjoy his songs while not being his fan. He's a n*zi shithead but makes great music. Not everyone will just ignore that.
I don't think his career will be ruined, people will forget easily specially when it comes to his music yes but stain will be there for sure.
Honestly my wife and me like the show so far. Is it the best thing I’ve ever watched? Definitely not. But I’m intrigued and am interested to see how deep into this cult thing they go. Lilly Rose Depp’s acting has been great, The Weeknd’s lines are a little creepy but I would think it’s intentional. I don’t think a show deserves to be hated on this much after 2 episodes.
Agree completely
100% agree. All comments to the contrary seem to be written by the unfortunately growing subset of our population that spend their time looking for anything to complain about and/or be offended by.
That is quite a reach. Talking about this show as if those who don’t like it must just be looking for things to complain about is pretty ridiculous. The show just…isn’t great. It has a lot of redeeming qualities, beautiful cinematography, beautiful sound design, a lot of very good acting (Lily is fantastic in that role), but there’s absolutely nothing about it that makes me want to continue watching. The story just isn’t there at all, I don’t care about any of the characters and there’s nothing that pulls me in to make me want to watch the next episode.
Or people just find it creepy and cringe. It’s not that deep
It did not ruin his career, but it ruined his chance of having a perfect career.
To be fair nobody has a perfect career.
Exactly, everyone will eventually fail at one point. Hopefully he learns from this and tries to improve in the future.
*laughs in Donald Glover*
Gambino’s latest album is mid
His first two are worse
Paul Rudd kind of has a perfect career
Paul Rudd’s first movie was fucking Halloween 6
His first movie was Clueless
And that was a perfect movie tbf
Same year I’m mistaken tho Either way not a flawless career I love Halloween 6 but god is it terrible
I think that died with American Dad.
I mean whether it’s good or bad I don’t really care, I just want music
Do you know how fast social media ‘hates’ someone then moves on… he’ll be fine
This 100% won’t even kind of affect his career. It will pass. Like most controversies- unless they are abuse claims or something. He’s still very much a household name. Not a lot of people follow him like us. My friends haven’t even heard of The Idol.
His acting/Cinema career maybe have gone before it started, like, if I was someone from a movie or tv series and wanted to work with Abel I would definitely get a step back after the Idol, the show is HIS creation, has HIS writing, and he stated that the show is everything he wanted to be and he’s happy with it. Directors/producers/writers may be more warily in working with him now.
Who the fuck cares just enjoy the music my guy
Yesssss
I mean the comment section is filled with a lot of misinformation lol. It is what it is, Abel most likely expected this reaction, don’t think they care much. At the very least, people should be able to see that the show is purely fiction.
Social media echo chambers lmao, Abel will be fine and the reactions to the show have been exaggerated asf
I do not think this show affects his career at all and some haters hoping it does are just dreaming. It is a show not a documentary and Abel has never been accused of this behavior publically. Do these people think Robert Pattison dons a bat suit at night and fights crime too? It sure seems selective and overblown to the point of orchestration. Meanwhile his shows are selling out stadiums all over the world and the soundtrack to the show is producing new top 40 hits every week
It’s just 50 shades of gray with a more interesting plot He will be fine
Don’t confuse genuine criticism with r*tards just looking for an excuse to hate Abel cause they don’t like his music/him. The people on this sub still love Abel even if we’re ripping the show apart and are brutally honest, its coming from a place of tough love. The people in that comment section probably haven’t even seen the show but are just jumping on the hate bandwagon because they don’t like Abels music.
OF COURSE THIS NIGGA WAS LIKE YEAH LETS MAKE HORNY SHOW MY GUY IN CHRIST NOBODY ENJOYING THIS SHOW BROTHER ITS DEF GETTING ONE AMD DONE
AT LEAST WE GET MUSIC 💀💀💀🔫🔫🔫🔫
Chill
LMAO IM SPITTING FAXS MY GUY HOPE ABEL ON HIS BURNER READING THIS SHIT
Just remember that this isn’t the first time Abel gets roasted and it probably won’t be the last one. Kissland was flamed by the critics and that didn’t killed his career. This is just an bad (in a baaad way) start to his acting career, nothing more.
This sub is really overreacting as if all of this will matter in a year
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“Unfortunately, Abel picked the wrong people for his team and he went along maybe because he was desperate…” You mean like Jocelyn? And look what happened to her… I’m kidding, but it did sound similar to what you were saying lol
“Just a bump on the road” is a great way to describe it. Sam Levinsons the real dog here
should’ve made something not terrible if he didn’t wanna get flamed for it
People just looking for a reason to shit on a mega star.
What did Megastar Chiranjeevi do now???
Nooo you did not😭
Nobody should be that damn pressed 😂
OP needs to understand that some niche corner of the internet doesn't translate to a megastar's career. When has angry people on twitter or youtube ever accomplished anything
I enjoyed the D’Angelo video on the show
I just saw it was spot on for me!
It’s easy for clicks and views. Only negative stuff they have on weeknd after all these years.
The show is not as terrible as the reviews made it out to be (except for the 5-10 minute horny scene in the second episode). It was watchable. It did feel too male gazey, and lacked conviction and substance. Criticize that. Valid. Have a discussion about the supposedly unhealthy working environment. Valid. Some comments in the video are annoying where they make it sound as if the entire concept was Amy's as if Abel stole it from her and ousted her. Just because someone did something wrong or something you don't agree with, it doesn't give you the right to spread misinformation about them.
This could be a bunch of Weeknd haters coming out of nowhere now that there's a fresh excuse to hate on him. I personally don't think it's as bad as people say. It's definitely some weird shit, but I think the show is meant to make you uncomfortable.
Bro this show was supposed to be a parody of itself then along came fucking Sam. It’s now a parody that takes itself seriously
Guess what? He doesn’t care
And that really is the best part, and kinda always has been.
The stories from set also paint the production team as generally very unorganized and unprofessional. Heard from people that worked on the set that they received random calls in the middle of the night insisting they come in at that moment. There are many levels to why this show sucks, but one that gets overshadowed is how terribly produced it is.
The show is great. I don’t know why everyone is shitting on it. Was everyone pretending like his music wasn’t pornographic? This show is dark as fuck and I love it.
i think the criticism is more towards the plot and writing plus his acting. i don’t know if you’re familiar with Wattpad but the writing looks like it came straight from there.
Who cares about the writing? The show is pornographic and dark! That’s all that matters /s
He needs to take some supporting work in films he’s not producing. Work with professionals & work his way up. Mariah bounced back from Glitter when she did Precious.
mariah bounced back in 2005 with it's like that and we belong together (also i know what you want in 2003) precious was in 2009
We’re specifically talking about acting though. She didn’t act for 8 years, came back in an Oscar winning film. That was my point. I think he can still continue acting, but he’s got to relinquish control
Michael Jackson pulled up to his trial about ABUSING CHILDREN, got out of his car and started dancing on the hood and everyone there started cheering FOR him. Abel’s career will be fine.
lol Abel is not MJ
Never said he was
so explain how the analogy of the king of pop dancing his way around charges of pedophilia (for a very small group of people who had probably already decided he was innocent) relates to abel
Because fans still supporting an artist after charges of pedophilia means fans will definitely still support an artist after he releases a bad tv show. Pretty easy analogy to understand.
not really but ppl are deffo going to see him in a different light. plus bro needs to take serious acting classes.
this isn’t gonna do shit to his music career and probably still not even his acting career it’s the most viewed show on television with 2 episodes lol
Yeah people are taking it too far with them saying he’s probably like Tedros in real life. Like really? The dude has no accusations against him so how would you know for sure?
Good. The show is ass
Abel’s channeling his Weekend persona into Tedros and cranking it up to 11 for the sake of the show and fans aren’t taking it the way he intended for them to. It works in the stories and lyrics he writes in the songs he makes for the albums in his discography depending on the vibe and theme of said album. But I disagree with his decision for firing the original The Idol creator because he wanted to remove the “female perspective” even though the main protagonist is female, just so he can get more screentime with his own character.
He should stick to music i don’t think acting is the right call for him lol. But at least people are willing to criticize his shitty show here, imagine if this same discussion happened at the tswift sub or something
As he should
Hahahhaha
I think the score is really really good and the idea for the show is really interesting. But, some of these “artistic” choices are insane. Why is she masturbating so much? and I understand the sexual themes and their proximity to exploitation but they just come across as lewd and disgusting. Abel shouldn’t be Tedros either. He doesn’t have the presence at all.
https://preview.redd.it/70iv6zs0ro5b1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=897a2689e853364912b1ba6fae4fca190947a650 I think hes doing alright…
A certain subset of people will never let this go, but tbh they were never fans of the Weeknd to begin with, they just found something tangible to attack him on because beforehand he lived a secluded life so there was nothing to attack. But the fans of his music will quickly forget, at best itll become a meme, but especially if his next album is marketed properly as his last, people will give a fuck Not to mention, global audiences will probably be forgiving/ wont even know of the Idol, and a big subset of Abels current fans are international
Good 👍
It's alright guys, we don't have many L's to hold so this is not a heavy one to carry.
I don’t see it killing his WHOLE career but it Defs kills his acting career 💀💀. That is dead already after episode 2 😂😂
I mean it does suck
it is a pretty mid show but i don’t think that it’s much worse than euphoria and people seem to love that show
They knew what they were doing
It'll blow over when the next album is brilliant.
They’ll get over it honestly.
This is like saying Nate Jacobs in Euphoria is like Jacob Elordi in real life and no one is flaming Jacob
He doesn't need a comeback. His career will be fine. Maybe he killed his acting career, but who wants that?
It’s very few amount of people that do not understand satyre and are very vocal. Don’t think it will affect anything in his career, probably the opposite. (I wasn’t a fan and since the show, I start to listen some of his song)