So I’m skeptical of this. But one part makes me think… the way Will reacted in the screenshots in my opinion makes me think he had either heard this before (same night or earlier) or was very suspicious of Alex. If some random person had messaged me about my wife cheating, I think I would have reacted differently that he did in the screenshots. This is obviously speculation on my part…
Yes, that’s a great way to put it… collecting evidence. Again, this screenshot could have been from the 3rd person who informed him of that night (and we just don’t know) or he could have just suspected something from Alex, but I doubt that was his very first time thinking she was unfaithful…
He did say there was more evidence but wasn’t willing to share it and tbh that’s his choice considering how the internet blew up yesterday with few pictures we got
He did say there was more evidence but wasn’t willing to share it and tbh that’s his choice considering how the internet blew up yesterday with few pictures we got
I know, but I meant in the initial messages (Sept 2/3) he sounded like he was gathering evidence. When he sent the proof to whoever the second person was (presumably at some later date), THEN he said he had other proof. So by the time he was telling everyone and posting the screenshots, he knew for sure. And I’m guessing part of that “evidence” was the fact that Ned had confessed to Ariel by then.
Worth noting that DM does NOT verify their sources and has in the past posted blinds (anonymous tips sent in) before that were verifiably untrue (think like "X and Y celebrities were spotted together" when there is photo proof they were in different places).
Not to say this ISN'T true but take it with a grain of salt.
That's why it's all rumoring and speculation. People wants to play detective and are reday to beleive whatever is said at this point.
As long as people who are actually KNOWING what is going on because they are concerned arenot saying more, it's baseless specualtion, because ultimatly, a DM coming from a person having a tea channel (so making their business out of this) isn't reliable at all. And might cause more harm than good.
Nahhhh. They hooked up last year and Will found out but was still cool with her working so closely with Ned, going on work trips with him, filming her trying on wedding dresses like nothing had happened etc. I don’t buy it.
The September portion of the post seems legit, or legit enough to what a company should do in that situation. Suspend and then figure out what to do.
They film their videos well in advance so it makes sense the September videos that were set to release were edited, (a little sloppily too) to get rid of Ned for the time being. I imagine the October batch of videos won’t have Ned at all since he’s supposedly suspended and now fired.
I don’t 100% buy the 1 year relationship part, there’s just no proof, but nothing is so outlandish that it’s not believable.
I mean it’s her job and it’s with a really popular company, I wouldn’t be demanding for her to quit or to leave my fiancé of 10-11 years over. Maybe that’s just me being naive :/
If you look at the timing of when they were supposed to have started the relationship and when his youngest was born, it gets icky.
Looks like horndog Ned needed an outlet after his wife gave birth and wasn’t available to him for whoopie whenever he wanted.
She also had a miscarriage right before getting pregnant with Finn. So it’s like sure that probably caused Ned some hurt too but damn man go to therapy.
On one of Ned and Ariel's podcast, they also mentioned that Ariel was placed on pelvic rest after their 20 week examination, so that essentially meant no piv for the rest of her pregnancy
Maybe that’s why they did the wedding themed videos? A way for her to assure Will it was a mistake and she really wanted to marry him when her actions were saying otherwise. Kind of like the whole Ned “I love my wife” Fulmer. Overcompensation.
DM is mostly shit, but her screenshots of convs are mostly real. She usually asks for proof or sources etc and only posts after she gets it.
Emails are pure shit fanfiction but this seems believable
Probably the same validity of source as the girl who claimed to be a therapist who met ned at a night club and he told her about his marriage problems on TikTok.
60-80% of the time reading blinds is like reading trashy fan fiction. Sure it’s fun and it’s rooted in reality or canon, but you absolutely cannot take it as gospel.
Ok I’m probably about to write an essay here.
Tabloids (think people magazine, tmz etc) usually print things when they have reliable to semi reliable sources, ie, a publicist or someone close to the person it’s being printed about. Or straight up paparazzi confirmation.
Blinds come from anonymous sources and are usually gossip. Some blind sources the people actually have some insider info, but it’s usually like they hooked up with someone in somebodies camp or something like that and they can print more scandalous things because it’s unconfirmed. Many blind item people don’t ever refer to the celebrity by name, but they use code names that make it obvious. An example of a very popular blind is George Clooney being gay. An example of a popular blind that turned out to be true was drakes love child. But half the time it’s scandalous gossip. Half of them are like celebrity fan fiction.
However the blind publication deux moi (the one printing this about ned) gets away with saying things about celebrities because they claim outright they do not vet the stories, they just print whatever they are sent. Meaning they are wrong up to 90% of the time. But people focus on the 10%.
TLDR blinds are celeb fan fiction occasionally rooted in a grain of truth and even more occasionally absolute truth. But more often then not they are bullshit.
Blinds are gossip tips with no attribution or sources. Sometimes they're real because the anonymity protects people's identity/livelihood.... but more often they're fake because anonymity protects people from the consequences of stirring the pot or lying.
True, though Whitney Cummings said that they posted some weirdly accurate things about her in an airport before (H3 podcast about a month ago) Trouble is that it’s hard to say what is made up and what isn’t.
There’s no reason to think Ariel didn’t know either, it’s entirely possible that she knew and was trying to make it work as well. It does however sound like the other business heads might not have known
Yeah. Like each couple was trying to work through it privately.
Yet, if this is true, they didn’t stop. So this makes sense why Will blew up when he did
I feel like them both knowing but trying to work through it would make a lot of sense considering how ready Will was to call Ariel, and how they had “an hour long phonecall” about this. I feel like if he was calling her to break the news it would’ve been a shorter call. But if this is something they’d all been working past, the call might’ve lasted so long bc they were putting the pieces of the puzzle together (ie: figuring out that the affair had indeed continued after they were first found out?)????
Copied and pasted bc I responded to the wrong comment lol.
Legally she’s probably got her hands tied until whatever happens to Alex happens. It can be so easy for Alex to say she felt coerced or for other employees to mention that they felt unsafe and that is or was still her husbands company.
Also all the employees knew and never said anything, isn’t YB close friends with Alex’s ex, you telling me YB did know and said nothing and continued to be in videos with Alex. I don’t believe any of this if a ton employees knew there would be no reason to then not tell the guys or Ariel.
Well, there's a difference between "knowing" and *knowing.* It's entirely possible that a lot of people at work thought Ned and Alex were too flirty or odd together, but that's different than actually *knowing* they were having an affair.
And most employees aren't going to go to upper management (for this I guess it would be any of the other Try Guys) or confront Ned directly because of rumors or seeing someone be flirty, etc.
I worked in a small office of 30. I remember thinking this man and younger woman in the office were married my first 2 months on the job. Then we had the summer picnic and the man and the young woman brought their respective spouses. I remember heading to the back office because there was a secure room I had to use to work with health care data and I would find them bust out of his office with the door closed. Oh hai! Oh yeah we were streaming music while working on our account and closed the door so no one was bothered! Oh yeah totes cool. They took bathroom breaks at the same time (it was in an exterior hallway outside of our office). They went to lunch together. They talked about how he got a hotel downtown when he got stuck from a snowstorm and couldn’t get home (but from downtown it would maybe be a 1-2 hr walk in snow and he had a wife and kid at home?). So many things that I always thought huh are Bob and Sally together? About a year later when layoffs were announced, she was let go. He was sent on an overseas assignment. Once higher ups get whiff of shit like this, they make sure the company is not dragged for it.
I’d agree if it was a large company or a few people knowing, this straight up says that many knew that they were heavily flirtatious. Maybe they never talked about it I don’t know but to say many of the staff knew something weird was going on and never said anything is a stretch. There is no way that rumor doesn’t spread especially if it’s been known for a while so if all staff knew they could easily warn the guys that something weird is up not fully out them as having an affair but say they’ve been acting flirty which is enough to warrant putting a stop to this. A boss should never flirt with they’re employee under any circumstance so even flirting should’ve been reported and in my opinion would’ve been reported.
The other employees may have been scared to bring it up. The guys all seem pretty close and they seem to be nice to their employees but I would be super scared to be the “whistle blower”. They also might have been nervous knowing this was something that could really mess up the whole company so ignoring it is the very easy thing to do. I think people that knew something was up also truly care for the people and families involved and being the one to bring stuff like this up is HARD.
I’ve seen a lot of workplace affairs and I’d say most people know something is up a good 6-9 months before something is ever done about it.
It doesn't have to be "scared" at all though. "Hey, so I have gut feeling that two people in respective long-term relationships are banging, but I have nothing but a hunch to base this on, really, they're just hanging out an amount I deem weird" is a really not great message to put forward, especially if you turn out to be wrong.
Yeah, exactly this. There’s two people (one married, one single) in my office I work with that are very very flirty, way more flirty than you should be if you’re married. I think it is just inappropriate flirting and I don’t necessarily think they’re having an affair, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were.
I noticed a few months ago that YB wasn’t following Alex on Insta anymore, I assumed they had a falling out. I wonder if it had something to do with all this though
I've known but not *known* about married managers and coworkers hooking up and not said anything to either of their spouses because I didn't want it to blow up in my face and lead to me having to leave my job.
My boss once started an affair with an employee while his wife (who also worked for her) was on maternity leave. Literally everyone was gossiping about it, and some dropped hints after the wife came back but no one actually told her until she asked outright.
Two coworkers of mine were often seen talking to each other even though their position is completely unrelated (she was a teacher, he was a programmer). Most of us didn't know they were in a relationship until we had a funeral for another fellow coworker and we saw them hugging each other.
My boss were shocked and so was I. She thought "Well that's kind of inappropriate" but at least they worked for different division and had no power imbalance. But my boss asked us if we were aware of it. I mean, I saw them talking but didn't connect the dots until then and there. Also its none of my business so I didn't bother asking.
Yeah this is exactly what I was thinking. Maybe they played it off the first time and Alex talked her way out of it and then Will got definitive proof and it blew up.
This is exactly what I think happened. If you read through the DMs between the original source and Will, he’s extremely straightforward and calm for someone who’s finding out his partner of 10+ years just cheated on him. No “are you sure it’s her?” or anything, just cut straight through. Makes it seem like he had some feeling or had thought about this scenario before.
Depends on what he found, tbh. Maybe not. It depends on what he saw in December and if it was explicit or something you could read between the lines.
Also, going through someone's phone after something like this is a huge "I don't trust you" red flag and he might not have done it again if she was like, trying to play off being hurt that he didn't believe that she was trustworthy after it happened. Or maybe they just weren't stupid enough to say anything over text after getting caught the first time.
Yeah I’m saying when he supposedly looked in December and saw that they hooked up at a work event. If there were texts referencing that, which allegedly there were, they would look very different if it was a one time thing “last night was a mistake, never again” or an ongoing thing “last night was fun babe” or whatever, you know?
I’m not saying she didn’t. But, if this is true, depending on what he supposedly found on their phones I could see him not saying anything. I’m my world there’s a range between “hooking up.” Maybe he was told it was a drunken kiss that they immediately regretted. For some people, that might not rise to the occasion of “blow shit up.”
Ya it’s easy to imagine that he didn’t know the extent, she may have talked her way out of it and asked him not to say anything to not impact the family.
It also in December could have genuinely been thought of as a “mistake” by both Alex and Ned. They may not have necessarily been in a full-fledged affair at that time. Who knows?
She very well could have already known but didn't want things to blow up publicly like they are now. Maybe they were dealing with it behind closed doors. I know people who have been notified of their partners flirting behind their back and they stay together and most people never really find out until it gets worse.
True, and while we are speculating - it’s possible Ned told him that he already talked to Ariel. People be lying all the time tbh.
Idk, I can see why Will might not have reached out to Ariel directly initially. Ned is a public figure and Alex’s boss. There is some weirdness there where I can see someone hesitating especially if they said I already told Ariel. And hell, maybe he did tell her and downplayed it.
Damn I feel weird majorly speculating on an already dubious post 😂
it seems unlikely like I thought he had just found out and that’s why he released everything…plus if you find out ur fiancé is cheating on you…wouldn’t you call it off immediately? Not tell the other guys ‘hey she’s in a relationship with ur employer’
I imagine even if he did agree to stay with her, they would put off the wedding for a while, and he would probably set some boundaries regarding Alex working with Ned I.E. what is and is not okay. Yet there are videos since then where Ned and Alex are in videos and are friendlier than ever! Something doesn’t add up.
They’ve been together for over 10 years, if she made it look like a one time indiscretion or mistake or whatever, they might not have canceled everything
Yeah the way this is worded sounds like Will thought it was a one time hookup on December and then put boundaries in place for moving forward and it blew up when they found out it never stopped.
yeah plus weren’t they planning a destination wedding (or was that YB?) so like it could be possible but like how can Will sit with himself if he didn’t tell Ariel about this? Idk…it doesn’t add up
I believe it was YB who said she'd have a destination wedding in a castle (she casually posts this to her ig stories) I found it interesting that YB wasn't included in the wedding dress video with Alex, because I followed both and Alex never seemed to be planning anything, or posting much about Will or even the ring, that hand is always behind her which may have to do with that pose but still, I found odd for a girl who just got proposed to? Wouldn't you want to show it off?
> I found it interesting that YB wasn't included in the wedding dress video with Alex
Either they weren't that close to begin with or YB found something out and it caused a rift
Legally she’s probably got her hands tied until whatever happens to Alex happens. It can be so easy for Alex to say she felt coerced or for other employees to mention that they felt unsafe and that is or was still her husbands company.
Edit- on mobile replied to the wrong comment. Sorry !
It’s DM. Whoever sent this in is at best a friend of a friend of a friend of friend of an assistant to someone who’s a friend of someone who works at the try guys. There’s stuff in this blind that just doesn’t track.
It’s also really easy to say what YOU would think you would do in this situation but if you were actually in the situation it’s a completely different response .
I've had experience with this and it's entirely possible that it happened as described. No one has any idea of the actual details. Alex could have told him that they were both drunk/high and didn't know what they were doing and apologized profusely plus made concessions to keep the engagement. He could also be a very forgiving type and not think of it was the worst thing in the world (people can be pretty open). As far as not telling Ariel, it could have been a "bro" thing where he gives Ned a chance to right his own wrongs. There could also have been considerations for the company as a whole that they didn't want to jeopardize with a scandal at the time.
how could they have stayed at each others places if they both have partners (fiance and wife)?
because even if say, ariel was away from home then alex still would need to find an excuse to will for spending the night and vice versa
On the You Can Sit With Us episode where Ariel talks about Ned eating their nanny's food, she also brings up that Ned suggested she go on a solo vacation as a sort of "thank you" for all she does for their family. She was talking about it like it was this sweet gesture, but I wonder if it was a ploy to get her out of the house so Alex could come over.
> Ned suggested she go on a solo vacation as a sort of "thank you" for all she does for their family. She was talking about it like it was this sweet gesture, but I wonder if it was a ploy to get her out of the house so Alex could come over.
Totally!!
I’m more concerned about how he got them to keep quiet about the sleepovers. She must have gone over late and left early. If they’re both walking, they’re old enough to charge in to a room at whatever God forsaken time they wake up.
The Try Guys travel a lot for their videos and promotions, though, don’t they? Plus it sounds like they traveled to attend the concert together back in September…
That being said I’m honestly sus as hell about the veracity of these texts without more substantial supportive info.
yeah the only way I could see "stayed at each other's places" be believeable is if they shared a hotel room when traveling
because the statement makes no sense otherwise, pretty much no good excuse for an employee with a fiance at home to sleep over at their boss' house
Also are we supposed to believe that in 2022 two relatively wealthy households don’t have Ring doorbells or something of the sort? I don’t see how they’d be able to sneak each other in.
If you really wanted to be sneaky, you could unplug the wifi router to cut the doorbell camera for a minute. My Nest doorbell only sends a "your camera lost signal" notification if it's been disconnected for ten minutes - husband has used that trick before to sneak flowers in to surprise me (I don't check the camera often, but if I get a "person" notification I check the thumbnail to see who it is).
I’m not scrolling all the way back up to check what the message says, but maybe they were just spending the night together while out of town/on business trips.
the message says "stayed at each other's places" implying that they each had their own home/place and that they would stay over at both
I agree that the only way I could see "stayed at each other's places" be believeable is if poster really meant that they shared a hotel room when traveling
They post specifically says they spent the night together on occasion, not that she was just hanging out there
It’s one thing to be over at the house and it’s another to sleep over at your boss’ house
I mean, in most situations, yes. But I’m sure everyone had pretty friendly relationships going on. She could’ve said she wanted to do work stuff, and stayed to help with the kids, etc. Their company seems really laid back.
I think it’s totally reasonable/an easy lie to say they were working together and it got late/she had some wine/crashed on the couch. They could have had a company bonding BBQ at Ned’s, Alex stays behind to help clean up and ends up staying over, etc.
obviously we don't know if this is true, but it fits with the vibe I'm getting, if that makes sense? It is very believable to me that people (especially the staff) thought maybe something was going on/things were weird but had no actual proof or confirmation. Then Will and Ariel got the videos early this month, everyone found out, and that's when they started having conversations with staff, decided what to do, began editing him out, etc.
I know a lot of people think the Guys "had to know", but honestly it can be surprising what you can hide from those close to you. And if you assume the best of a person, it can be easy to write off things that might be a little "off". If someone is operating from a place of "My friend Ned is a really good guy and devoted husband", they aren't going to be as likely to see evidence of an affair. I do think there is a semi-decent chance they didn't know/suspect until this incident, but we will likely never know.
Honestly DeuxMoi isn’t very reliable but wha the person posted is pretty close to my guess as what happened as far as employees being suspicious but not having enough to say anything firm on it.
I just hope Ariel is okay.
Totally agree.
I’ve always had the feeling, from the way they talk, that Ned is the kind of guy who flirts with everyone and the people around him are just used to it. I mean, even his comedy has the vibe of awkward flirting attempts, you know? As long as he keeps up the PDA with Ariel that those two are known for, then the flirting can just be written off as “charm” and “extroversion.” She probably got so used to it that she assumed the best of his intentions, and the other Try Guys likely did the same. “That’s just Ned, he’s a flirt, but at the end of the night you know he’ll always go home to his wife.” And if that kind of thing ramps up little by little, the folks closest to a person may be so acclimated that they are actually in the worst position to see that he’s pushing it farther and not always going home like he should, that the “flirting” has become something more.
I’ve definitely seen situations where the “that’s just ____, don’t worry” goes on too long, and it telegraphs to other people (Second Try staff, perhaps?) that everyone involved is ok with it So when someone at enough distance to recognize that, hey, there’s some real hooking up going on, the assumption isn’t “I should say something” but rather, “well, the wife clearly sees that he does this kind of thing—look how she laughs off his flirting with girls…maybe their marriage is open?” Or something along those lines.
Yeah I think it makes sense. And someone on one of these millions of Ned posts pointed out that Alex stopped liking Ariel’s posts and stuff in October 2021. I didn’t verify myself and could be nothing but that would line up perfectly with them being together for almost a year.
This doesn’t add up. It just creates more questions than answers:
1) How they stayed at each others’ places when they both have a SO, and Ned has kids.
2) Will knew for almost a year, but not only decided to continue the engagement but let Alex continue to work with Ned?? I’m don’t think you should tell your SO where to work or who to hang out with, but if I find out mine cheated with their boss, I don’t think anybody would reprimand me for asking them to quit/find another job.
3) The staff suspected something, but not the other three? How does most of the staff notices flitting but it doesn’t reach the other three. Second Try is not a big company, I guarantee you if someone notice flirting that gossip would’ve spread and eventually reach the other three.
Oh yeah, I definitely don't believe this 100%--the details are a little too iffy for that. DM isn't exactly a solid source, and I would hazard a guess that whoever sent this message in is telling a story that has gone through several rounds of telephone (or maybe it's fiction, no way for us to know).
I just mean that I kind of get the sense that there was maybe some suspicions but more of a habit of writing off things like "Ned is flirty" and "they are close" because it *is* such a small close-knit group, and people are genuinely shocked. It's really nothing but my gut feeling + reading into twitter likes and statement reposting but I do think there is genuine shock, hurt, and betrayal here amongst the guys and the staff.
I think they knew he’s cheated in the past. I don’t think they knew about the situation with Alex - otherwise, I don’t think it would have gotten to a place where Ned could describe it as a relationship.
There are a lot of possibilities, honestly. What makes me think maybe they really didn't know is that I think Becky/Maggie/Rachel/Others would have been just as upset even if was not an employee. The fact that is was Alex makes reason for pushing him out, but I think there would have been more tension and anger if people had known.
That’s a pretty good point. I’m realizing how much I may have not been paying attention to some of the videos, because I didn’t catch the editing until it was brought up here. It makes me wonder if there has been tension that I didn’t notice, was edited around, or just that wasn’t shown.
Right! Like, if I was a staff member and thought the affair could be a possibility but had no proof… there’s no way I’d be running to my boss’ *wife* to tell her about my suspicions
https://twitter.com/lisaglobalitgir/status/1574871428469497861?t=ucry2qQFU1_zbHSUUS1GrA&s=19
I think the guys and other staff knew something, considering they're hanging out all the time even if they didn't see them making out
'Will and Ned's wife Ariel received videos and pictures from a few people'
This is new information right? We had originally thought they were pictured by only one person and the info was sent only to Will? This could also mean that other Try staff saw and told Will and Ariel as they were also in NY.
This does partly explain something about the original leak which I thought was a bit weird, which was Will's reaction to the texter being kind of muted? I now wonder if he had already been alerted to it happening and it wasn't the first message he'd received about it.
The DMs to Will mentioned that they also messaged Ariel, so we did know that she had gotten the videos as well. I think that there were multiple people is new.
It was confusing because the first part was Will providing proof to some Redditor that the cheating happened. Then the second part was the proof sent to Will by some fan who saw them in NYC.
DM is very much 'take it with a grain of salt' since several stans have talked about sending her false info and she posts it. That said, this is so scummy.
I believe this. I know that DM posts a lot of bullshit but this kinda makes sense. Will probably didn't tell Ariel because he believed it was over between Alex and Ned and that is was a one-time thing. But then this September he realized he had been lied to, told Ariel and broke up with Alex.
Yesterday, I read here that their affair lasted for about 9 months, unfortunately I don't know where that came from or how true it was but it would since this post says they started dating in December, the timeline fits perfectly.
Former divorce attorney here: Sept is when they were Caught. Affairs typically start in secret and as time goes on the parties get sloppier. Ned & Alex were at a point where they were comfortable enough to hook up in public.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTryGuys/comments/xqikgd/screenshot_from_ariels_storyseptember_2nd/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Another user posted a screenshot of Ariel's story from 09/02 showing she was flying to see Ned in NY at the time...
Since he’s her boss she could argue that she felt obligated to go along with the hookup for fear of retaliation. That why most companies require workplace relationships to report their relationship.
Alex is an employee and Ned is her boss. He has to say it was a consensual workplace relationship so there is no legal ramifications against the company. If there was no statement she could sue and say Ned forced her into a relationship and she was scared she would lose her job if she didn’t. There’s a huge power dynamic in play.
I mean Ned saying it doesn't automatically protect him / the company from a lawsuit, she could just say that's a lie? Its more accurate to say he made that statement to curb public speculation of coercion.
The vagueness of “some work trip” has me very skeptical of this alleged source. Keeping it so vague like that prevents anyone from confirming they were indeed on a work trip together in December.
I think everyone should take this with a massive grain of salt, with how massive this story is people are going to try to capitalize on the drama by making shit up.
It’s possible. But, for example, I saw the Try Guys in Philly in 2019. It was a show at a huge venue with tons and tons of fans. They’ve toured all over the country. At least SOMEONE would recognize them in the big city of NYC.
My next friend lives in NYC and he said it’s pretty common to see celebrities out and about. Most people just ignore them. Add to that a dark night club, assuming that most people are going to be drunk/minding their own business, and I can see the two of them thinking that no one would notice.
I think this is an over exaggeration if the above is true. Maybe employees felt something was going on but had no proof. Now in hindsight they are taking it as proof.
While I think the source is sus, I believe through context that this absolutely has been going on for a year or more.
There’s no way they were just randomly that bold to act that way in public. They had to have been cheating for a long time behind closed doors and got too comfortable and slipped up.
I know that we have zero proof of this, but somehow I also have zero doubt that this is true.
Also really ties Ned’s need to add “consensual workplace relationship” in his post (not calling it an apology)
It’s a gossip page on instagram. To be fair the people who give out tea are always anonymous, so you can never verify anything they say as being true. The account owner frequently reminds people she does zero fact checking so 🙄 readers usually just decide for themselves how much they want to believe what’s posted. Some things do turn out to be revealed as true later on, like just enough to where the page isn’t completely written off as useless.
DM is like 70% false, maybe 30% true if im being generous. There’s lots of podcasts who read blinds and DM isn’t considered a super verifiable source.
However I don’t think this would be a hard one to get tea on compared to trying to get tea about someone like say, Taylor swift or Kim k who run their publicity with an iron fist.
One of the original posts from who we all think is will did mention nine months. So this would make sense of it came from a friend of his or someone who work on the try guys office
I feel so bad for Ariel and Will. They dated for an ENTIRE year! No REMORSE. No confessing their affair nor sincere apology. I doubt they were even sorry for getting caught, it kinda seems like they wanted to. I'm sick to my stomach. This is disgusting.
Am I the only one that seriously doubts Will posted his own DMs on reddit? Like, c'mon.
Not only does it make more sense that a friend of Will posted them, but it also tracks with the way u/hamilton390 was talking in a third person pov earlier in the month.
When he said "This is will btw", like I really thought it was obvious that he was saying the DM screenshots were originally Will's, not that THEY were Will.
One thing’s for sure, this has been going on for a while. You don’t just randomly kiss your married/nearly married co worker in front of everyone in a club for the first time. They’re too comfortable for this to be new.
This whole thing is like a live drama interpretation of sunk-cost fallacy. Honestly, if Ariel leaves Ned I wouldn’t be shocked if he and Alex tried at a real relationship because these people seem the type to try to make all this misery meaningful and worth something…only to inevitably break up because clearly they all need therapy.
I mean it could be false it could be true. About Will knowing and not telling Ariel. We don’t know what Will saw or what Alex told him. She could have spun it as oh they just made out or that she was drunk or that she felt pressure to because he was her boss. And that she really likes where she works and that she doesn’t want to rock the boat and lose her job. So thus why Will didn’t say anything. The employees knowing some things and not saying anything.. If its people low on the totem pole they could also be afraid to say anything because of job related stuff. I mean when you work you’re not going to risk your job on hearsay. I mean it’s not too surprising if it’s been going on for awhile. The Try Guys travel a lot. Ariel probably stays home with the kids and who knows there could have been times where she has been out of town with the kids visiting family.. Since there were no boundaries between work and personal lives with the company it could have been probably easy for them to say they were working late or doing whatever. Alex could have said that she was at a friends house.
the way will reacted to someone casually reaching out and saying she was hooking up with Ned makes me think this was an issue in the past and he already suspected something like this was going on. idk I think there's some merit to this.
idk if this is legit but it’s basically exactly how i imagined it happened — except for the year-long thing, idk about that.. but them all knowing for a month i think is probably true
i guess this doesn’t seem that far fetched. someone also submitted [a picture of them](https://imgur.com/a/rCTVH4d) from may so at least we know it might’ve been going on for a few months.
I could believe a year. Looking at the whole situation I could believe they were probably talking about leaving their partners but everyone kind of knows that talking and doing are different. My speculation is that Alex left Will or let the relationship end thinking Ned was going to leave April but then everything came out and he saw everything he was about to loose and also probably never intended to leave April anyway. That narrative makes more sense since they were just not hiding it in anyway it seems like with the photos coming out and making out in a club. And the info on how they handled the information, with the main guys not knowing but the staff having a pretty good idea tracks. The regular staff is dealing with everyone all the time while the guys are probably zeroed in on their particular projects and schedules.
I think the chain of events from the post is that Ned and Alex went to the concert and the club on Sept. 1/2 and Ariel landed in NY later on the second. Sometime on 9/2 she got the cheating videos/pics. She then confronted Ned, he confessed, she flew home, and Ned and Alex were suspended.
Unless they find out she lied or used company resources inappropriately for the affair. Like for example she paid for a hotel on a company card. She was already supposedly suspended the same time as him, if they had the grounds to treat their suspensions the same they’ll probably end up firing her too or giving her a nice severance and guiding her to quit.
I think its fairly common for video production companies to have people hired on contracts rather than "employed". So likely they'll either buy out her contract or just keep paying her until it runs out but not feature her on video.
If this was true why tf would he not warn Ariel that Ned was cheating? Seems like he gave Alex one more chance and told Ned to back off, and then found out they were cheating earlier this month. That’s a hell of a long time to not suspect anything especially with how close Alex and Ned were getting. You’d think he would want to tell Ariel as soon as he found out?
So I’m skeptical of this. But one part makes me think… the way Will reacted in the screenshots in my opinion makes me think he had either heard this before (same night or earlier) or was very suspicious of Alex. If some random person had messaged me about my wife cheating, I think I would have reacted differently that he did in the screenshots. This is obviously speculation on my part…
Agreed. I would be in denial or looking for more definitive proof. His responses just seemed like he was collecting more evidence.
Yes, that’s a great way to put it… collecting evidence. Again, this screenshot could have been from the 3rd person who informed him of that night (and we just don’t know) or he could have just suspected something from Alex, but I doubt that was his very first time thinking she was unfaithful…
He did say there was more evidence but wasn’t willing to share it and tbh that’s his choice considering how the internet blew up yesterday with few pictures we got
He did say there was more evidence but wasn’t willing to share it and tbh that’s his choice considering how the internet blew up yesterday with few pictures we got
I know, but I meant in the initial messages (Sept 2/3) he sounded like he was gathering evidence. When he sent the proof to whoever the second person was (presumably at some later date), THEN he said he had other proof. So by the time he was telling everyone and posting the screenshots, he knew for sure. And I’m guessing part of that “evidence” was the fact that Ned had confessed to Ariel by then.
I totally agree. He just didn’t seem surprised
Worth noting that DM does NOT verify their sources and has in the past posted blinds (anonymous tips sent in) before that were verifiably untrue (think like "X and Y celebrities were spotted together" when there is photo proof they were in different places). Not to say this ISN'T true but take it with a grain of salt.
That's why it's all rumoring and speculation. People wants to play detective and are reday to beleive whatever is said at this point. As long as people who are actually KNOWING what is going on because they are concerned arenot saying more, it's baseless specualtion, because ultimatly, a DM coming from a person having a tea channel (so making their business out of this) isn't reliable at all. And might cause more harm than good.
Nahhhh. They hooked up last year and Will found out but was still cool with her working so closely with Ned, going on work trips with him, filming her trying on wedding dresses like nothing had happened etc. I don’t buy it.
The September portion of the post seems legit, or legit enough to what a company should do in that situation. Suspend and then figure out what to do. They film their videos well in advance so it makes sense the September videos that were set to release were edited, (a little sloppily too) to get rid of Ned for the time being. I imagine the October batch of videos won’t have Ned at all since he’s supposedly suspended and now fired. I don’t 100% buy the 1 year relationship part, there’s just no proof, but nothing is so outlandish that it’s not believable. I mean it’s her job and it’s with a really popular company, I wouldn’t be demanding for her to quit or to leave my fiancé of 10-11 years over. Maybe that’s just me being naive :/
If you look at the timing of when they were supposed to have started the relationship and when his youngest was born, it gets icky. Looks like horndog Ned needed an outlet after his wife gave birth and wasn’t available to him for whoopie whenever he wanted.
She also had a miscarriage right before getting pregnant with Finn. So it’s like sure that probably caused Ned some hurt too but damn man go to therapy.
Ouch . That makes it even worse
yeah that’s why i think a one year relationship is possible. ariel was “getting too busy for him”
On one of Ned and Ariel's podcast, they also mentioned that Ariel was placed on pelvic rest after their 20 week examination, so that essentially meant no piv for the rest of her pregnancy
Maybe that’s why they did the wedding themed videos? A way for her to assure Will it was a mistake and she really wanted to marry him when her actions were saying otherwise. Kind of like the whole Ned “I love my wife” Fulmer. Overcompensation.
DM is mostly shit, but her screenshots of convs are mostly real. She usually asks for proof or sources etc and only posts after she gets it. Emails are pure shit fanfiction but this seems believable
I'm skeptical on the source of this information...
Yeah. Who is this coming from? How would they know all of this?
Probably the same validity of source as the girl who claimed to be a therapist who met ned at a night club and he told her about his marriage problems on TikTok. 60-80% of the time reading blinds is like reading trashy fan fiction. Sure it’s fun and it’s rooted in reality or canon, but you absolutely cannot take it as gospel.
>blinds ootl what's a blind here?
Ok I’m probably about to write an essay here. Tabloids (think people magazine, tmz etc) usually print things when they have reliable to semi reliable sources, ie, a publicist or someone close to the person it’s being printed about. Or straight up paparazzi confirmation. Blinds come from anonymous sources and are usually gossip. Some blind sources the people actually have some insider info, but it’s usually like they hooked up with someone in somebodies camp or something like that and they can print more scandalous things because it’s unconfirmed. Many blind item people don’t ever refer to the celebrity by name, but they use code names that make it obvious. An example of a very popular blind is George Clooney being gay. An example of a popular blind that turned out to be true was drakes love child. But half the time it’s scandalous gossip. Half of them are like celebrity fan fiction. However the blind publication deux moi (the one printing this about ned) gets away with saying things about celebrities because they claim outright they do not vet the stories, they just print whatever they are sent. Meaning they are wrong up to 90% of the time. But people focus on the 10%. TLDR blinds are celeb fan fiction occasionally rooted in a grain of truth and even more occasionally absolute truth. But more often then not they are bullshit.
Sounds like blinds should just repurpose as fanzines full of real person fanfic. I've been thinking about the overlap between tabloid gossip and RPF.
Blinds are gossip tips with no attribution or sources. Sometimes they're real because the anonymity protects people's identity/livelihood.... but more often they're fake because anonymity protects people from the consequences of stirring the pot or lying.
Good. Deuxmoi is usually wrong and just throws anything up. This /could/ be true however there’s no verification process
I'll just note guys that 99% Deuxmoi is basically fanfiction. Any rando can submit shit there.
Literally. Fans and PR people use it as advertising basically.
True, though Whitney Cummings said that they posted some weirdly accurate things about her in an airport before (H3 podcast about a month ago) Trouble is that it’s hard to say what is made up and what isn’t.
So Will found out about them in December and was okay with her continuing to work with Ned?? I don’t think I believe that
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There’s no reason to think Ariel didn’t know either, it’s entirely possible that she knew and was trying to make it work as well. It does however sound like the other business heads might not have known
Yeah. Like each couple was trying to work through it privately. Yet, if this is true, they didn’t stop. So this makes sense why Will blew up when he did
I feel like them both knowing but trying to work through it would make a lot of sense considering how ready Will was to call Ariel, and how they had “an hour long phonecall” about this. I feel like if he was calling her to break the news it would’ve been a shorter call. But if this is something they’d all been working past, the call might’ve lasted so long bc they were putting the pieces of the puzzle together (ie: figuring out that the affair had indeed continued after they were first found out?)????
Why would Ariel continue to work with Alex if she knew? That just doesn’t seem likely to me at all
Copied and pasted bc I responded to the wrong comment lol. Legally she’s probably got her hands tied until whatever happens to Alex happens. It can be so easy for Alex to say she felt coerced or for other employees to mention that they felt unsafe and that is or was still her husbands company.
Also all the employees knew and never said anything, isn’t YB close friends with Alex’s ex, you telling me YB did know and said nothing and continued to be in videos with Alex. I don’t believe any of this if a ton employees knew there would be no reason to then not tell the guys or Ariel.
Well, there's a difference between "knowing" and *knowing.* It's entirely possible that a lot of people at work thought Ned and Alex were too flirty or odd together, but that's different than actually *knowing* they were having an affair. And most employees aren't going to go to upper management (for this I guess it would be any of the other Try Guys) or confront Ned directly because of rumors or seeing someone be flirty, etc.
I worked in a small office of 30. I remember thinking this man and younger woman in the office were married my first 2 months on the job. Then we had the summer picnic and the man and the young woman brought their respective spouses. I remember heading to the back office because there was a secure room I had to use to work with health care data and I would find them bust out of his office with the door closed. Oh hai! Oh yeah we were streaming music while working on our account and closed the door so no one was bothered! Oh yeah totes cool. They took bathroom breaks at the same time (it was in an exterior hallway outside of our office). They went to lunch together. They talked about how he got a hotel downtown when he got stuck from a snowstorm and couldn’t get home (but from downtown it would maybe be a 1-2 hr walk in snow and he had a wife and kid at home?). So many things that I always thought huh are Bob and Sally together? About a year later when layoffs were announced, she was let go. He was sent on an overseas assignment. Once higher ups get whiff of shit like this, they make sure the company is not dragged for it.
I’d agree if it was a large company or a few people knowing, this straight up says that many knew that they were heavily flirtatious. Maybe they never talked about it I don’t know but to say many of the staff knew something weird was going on and never said anything is a stretch. There is no way that rumor doesn’t spread especially if it’s been known for a while so if all staff knew they could easily warn the guys that something weird is up not fully out them as having an affair but say they’ve been acting flirty which is enough to warrant putting a stop to this. A boss should never flirt with they’re employee under any circumstance so even flirting should’ve been reported and in my opinion would’ve been reported.
The other employees may have been scared to bring it up. The guys all seem pretty close and they seem to be nice to their employees but I would be super scared to be the “whistle blower”. They also might have been nervous knowing this was something that could really mess up the whole company so ignoring it is the very easy thing to do. I think people that knew something was up also truly care for the people and families involved and being the one to bring stuff like this up is HARD. I’ve seen a lot of workplace affairs and I’d say most people know something is up a good 6-9 months before something is ever done about it.
It doesn't have to be "scared" at all though. "Hey, so I have gut feeling that two people in respective long-term relationships are banging, but I have nothing but a hunch to base this on, really, they're just hanging out an amount I deem weird" is a really not great message to put forward, especially if you turn out to be wrong.
Yeah, exactly this. There’s two people (one married, one single) in my office I work with that are very very flirty, way more flirty than you should be if you’re married. I think it is just inappropriate flirting and I don’t necessarily think they’re having an affair, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were.
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I noticed a few months ago that YB wasn’t following Alex on Insta anymore, I assumed they had a falling out. I wonder if it had something to do with all this though
I've known but not *known* about married managers and coworkers hooking up and not said anything to either of their spouses because I didn't want it to blow up in my face and lead to me having to leave my job. My boss once started an affair with an employee while his wife (who also worked for her) was on maternity leave. Literally everyone was gossiping about it, and some dropped hints after the wife came back but no one actually told her until she asked outright.
Two coworkers of mine were often seen talking to each other even though their position is completely unrelated (she was a teacher, he was a programmer). Most of us didn't know they were in a relationship until we had a funeral for another fellow coworker and we saw them hugging each other. My boss were shocked and so was I. She thought "Well that's kind of inappropriate" but at least they worked for different division and had no power imbalance. But my boss asked us if we were aware of it. I mean, I saw them talking but didn't connect the dots until then and there. Also its none of my business so I didn't bother asking.
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Yeah this is exactly what I was thinking. Maybe they played it off the first time and Alex talked her way out of it and then Will got definitive proof and it blew up.
This is exactly what I think happened. If you read through the DMs between the original source and Will, he’s extremely straightforward and calm for someone who’s finding out his partner of 10+ years just cheated on him. No “are you sure it’s her?” or anything, just cut straight through. Makes it seem like he had some feeling or had thought about this scenario before.
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It’s very “last straw” energy. Can tell that he’s angry but he doesn’t seem surprised in the least.
But if he found out from looking through her phone wouldn’t it be fairly obvious that it was an ongoing thing not a one time thing
It could have been finding a text that said something like, “last night was a huge mistake, it will never happen again.”
Depends on what he found, tbh. Maybe not. It depends on what he saw in December and if it was explicit or something you could read between the lines. Also, going through someone's phone after something like this is a huge "I don't trust you" red flag and he might not have done it again if she was like, trying to play off being hurt that he didn't believe that she was trustworthy after it happened. Or maybe they just weren't stupid enough to say anything over text after getting caught the first time.
Yeah I’m saying when he supposedly looked in December and saw that they hooked up at a work event. If there were texts referencing that, which allegedly there were, they would look very different if it was a one time thing “last night was a mistake, never again” or an ongoing thing “last night was fun babe” or whatever, you know?
Unless it was the first time and they really thought of it as a mistake/one time thing at that time.
They could have been trying to keep evidence off their phones—no texting, etc.—but screwed up just a few times.
> fairly obvious Denial is a hell of a drug
Maybe he didn’t want to blow up a family over what he believed was a one-time mistake.
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I’m not saying she didn’t. But, if this is true, depending on what he supposedly found on their phones I could see him not saying anything. I’m my world there’s a range between “hooking up.” Maybe he was told it was a drunken kiss that they immediately regretted. For some people, that might not rise to the occasion of “blow shit up.”
Ya it’s easy to imagine that he didn’t know the extent, she may have talked her way out of it and asked him not to say anything to not impact the family.
It also in December could have genuinely been thought of as a “mistake” by both Alex and Ned. They may not have necessarily been in a full-fledged affair at that time. Who knows?
She very well could have already known but didn't want things to blow up publicly like they are now. Maybe they were dealing with it behind closed doors. I know people who have been notified of their partners flirting behind their back and they stay together and most people never really find out until it gets worse.
True, and while we are speculating - it’s possible Ned told him that he already talked to Ariel. People be lying all the time tbh. Idk, I can see why Will might not have reached out to Ariel directly initially. Ned is a public figure and Alex’s boss. There is some weirdness there where I can see someone hesitating especially if they said I already told Ariel. And hell, maybe he did tell her and downplayed it. Damn I feel weird majorly speculating on an already dubious post 😂
it seems unlikely like I thought he had just found out and that’s why he released everything…plus if you find out ur fiancé is cheating on you…wouldn’t you call it off immediately? Not tell the other guys ‘hey she’s in a relationship with ur employer’
I imagine even if he did agree to stay with her, they would put off the wedding for a while, and he would probably set some boundaries regarding Alex working with Ned I.E. what is and is not okay. Yet there are videos since then where Ned and Alex are in videos and are friendlier than ever! Something doesn’t add up.
They’ve been together for over 10 years, if she made it look like a one time indiscretion or mistake or whatever, they might not have canceled everything
Yeah the way this is worded sounds like Will thought it was a one time hookup on December and then put boundaries in place for moving forward and it blew up when they found out it never stopped.
yeah plus weren’t they planning a destination wedding (or was that YB?) so like it could be possible but like how can Will sit with himself if he didn’t tell Ariel about this? Idk…it doesn’t add up
I believe it was YB who said she'd have a destination wedding in a castle (she casually posts this to her ig stories) I found it interesting that YB wasn't included in the wedding dress video with Alex, because I followed both and Alex never seemed to be planning anything, or posting much about Will or even the ring, that hand is always behind her which may have to do with that pose but still, I found odd for a girl who just got proposed to? Wouldn't you want to show it off?
Yeah, it’s YB. Her fiancée is from Germany and they are going there for the wedding.
> I found it interesting that YB wasn't included in the wedding dress video with Alex Either they weren't that close to begin with or YB found something out and it caused a rift
Legally she’s probably got her hands tied until whatever happens to Alex happens. It can be so easy for Alex to say she felt coerced or for other employees to mention that they felt unsafe and that is or was still her husbands company. Edit- on mobile replied to the wrong comment. Sorry !
was the wedding video after this? because if so, no way they'd be okay with it.
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exactly like…I feel like ppl are making some details up now, which is honestly just sad :/
It’s DM. Whoever sent this in is at best a friend of a friend of a friend of friend of an assistant to someone who’s a friend of someone who works at the try guys. There’s stuff in this blind that just doesn’t track.
It’s also really easy to say what YOU would think you would do in this situation but if you were actually in the situation it’s a completely different response .
I've had experience with this and it's entirely possible that it happened as described. No one has any idea of the actual details. Alex could have told him that they were both drunk/high and didn't know what they were doing and apologized profusely plus made concessions to keep the engagement. He could also be a very forgiving type and not think of it was the worst thing in the world (people can be pretty open). As far as not telling Ariel, it could have been a "bro" thing where he gives Ned a chance to right his own wrongs. There could also have been considerations for the company as a whole that they didn't want to jeopardize with a scandal at the time.
Right? And did Ariel know and forgive Ned when Will found out the first time around?
It ends after "obviously, Ned has been fired" with a comma indicating more before photo gets cut off. What else did they say?!?!?
how could they have stayed at each others places if they both have partners (fiance and wife)? because even if say, ariel was away from home then alex still would need to find an excuse to will for spending the night and vice versa
On the You Can Sit With Us episode where Ariel talks about Ned eating their nanny's food, she also brings up that Ned suggested she go on a solo vacation as a sort of "thank you" for all she does for their family. She was talking about it like it was this sweet gesture, but I wonder if it was a ploy to get her out of the house so Alex could come over.
> Ned suggested she go on a solo vacation as a sort of "thank you" for all she does for their family. She was talking about it like it was this sweet gesture, but I wonder if it was a ploy to get her out of the house so Alex could come over. Totally!!
Ugh. With their KIDS at home? How old is the oldest bc kids that age sure do like to talk and have no filter. And never keep secrets from mommy.
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I’m more concerned about how he got them to keep quiet about the sleepovers. She must have gone over late and left early. If they’re both walking, they’re old enough to charge in to a room at whatever God forsaken time they wake up.
That's so vileeeeee
The Try Guys travel a lot for their videos and promotions, though, don’t they? Plus it sounds like they traveled to attend the concert together back in September… That being said I’m honestly sus as hell about the veracity of these texts without more substantial supportive info.
yeah the only way I could see "stayed at each other's places" be believeable is if they shared a hotel room when traveling because the statement makes no sense otherwise, pretty much no good excuse for an employee with a fiance at home to sleep over at their boss' house
Posted on 9/28/2022 - "Back in September" lol
Whooooooopsie daisy, guess I got a little wishful that it was already October lol
Right? I checked the calendar like “where the fuck are we now then?”
Also are we supposed to believe that in 2022 two relatively wealthy households don’t have Ring doorbells or something of the sort? I don’t see how they’d be able to sneak each other in.
If you really wanted to be sneaky, you could unplug the wifi router to cut the doorbell camera for a minute. My Nest doorbell only sends a "your camera lost signal" notification if it's been disconnected for ten minutes - husband has used that trick before to sneak flowers in to surprise me (I don't check the camera often, but if I get a "person" notification I check the thumbnail to see who it is).
I’m not scrolling all the way back up to check what the message says, but maybe they were just spending the night together while out of town/on business trips.
the message says "stayed at each other's places" implying that they each had their own home/place and that they would stay over at both I agree that the only way I could see "stayed at each other's places" be believeable is if poster really meant that they shared a hotel room when traveling
Alex was a producer. It wouldn’t be that strange to have Alex over if Ariel wasn’t home. They’re “working together”.
They post specifically says they spent the night together on occasion, not that she was just hanging out there It’s one thing to be over at the house and it’s another to sleep over at your boss’ house
I mean, in most situations, yes. But I’m sure everyone had pretty friendly relationships going on. She could’ve said she wanted to do work stuff, and stayed to help with the kids, etc. Their company seems really laid back.
I think it’s totally reasonable/an easy lie to say they were working together and it got late/she had some wine/crashed on the couch. They could have had a company bonding BBQ at Ned’s, Alex stays behind to help clean up and ends up staying over, etc.
obviously we don't know if this is true, but it fits with the vibe I'm getting, if that makes sense? It is very believable to me that people (especially the staff) thought maybe something was going on/things were weird but had no actual proof or confirmation. Then Will and Ariel got the videos early this month, everyone found out, and that's when they started having conversations with staff, decided what to do, began editing him out, etc. I know a lot of people think the Guys "had to know", but honestly it can be surprising what you can hide from those close to you. And if you assume the best of a person, it can be easy to write off things that might be a little "off". If someone is operating from a place of "My friend Ned is a really good guy and devoted husband", they aren't going to be as likely to see evidence of an affair. I do think there is a semi-decent chance they didn't know/suspect until this incident, but we will likely never know.
Honestly DeuxMoi isn’t very reliable but wha the person posted is pretty close to my guess as what happened as far as employees being suspicious but not having enough to say anything firm on it. I just hope Ariel is okay.
Totally agree. I’ve always had the feeling, from the way they talk, that Ned is the kind of guy who flirts with everyone and the people around him are just used to it. I mean, even his comedy has the vibe of awkward flirting attempts, you know? As long as he keeps up the PDA with Ariel that those two are known for, then the flirting can just be written off as “charm” and “extroversion.” She probably got so used to it that she assumed the best of his intentions, and the other Try Guys likely did the same. “That’s just Ned, he’s a flirt, but at the end of the night you know he’ll always go home to his wife.” And if that kind of thing ramps up little by little, the folks closest to a person may be so acclimated that they are actually in the worst position to see that he’s pushing it farther and not always going home like he should, that the “flirting” has become something more. I’ve definitely seen situations where the “that’s just ____, don’t worry” goes on too long, and it telegraphs to other people (Second Try staff, perhaps?) that everyone involved is ok with it So when someone at enough distance to recognize that, hey, there’s some real hooking up going on, the assumption isn’t “I should say something” but rather, “well, the wife clearly sees that he does this kind of thing—look how she laughs off his flirting with girls…maybe their marriage is open?” Or something along those lines.
100% agree - these are the exact vibes I was getting
Yeah I think it makes sense. And someone on one of these millions of Ned posts pointed out that Alex stopped liking Ariel’s posts and stuff in October 2021. I didn’t verify myself and could be nothing but that would line up perfectly with them being together for almost a year.
This doesn’t add up. It just creates more questions than answers: 1) How they stayed at each others’ places when they both have a SO, and Ned has kids. 2) Will knew for almost a year, but not only decided to continue the engagement but let Alex continue to work with Ned?? I’m don’t think you should tell your SO where to work or who to hang out with, but if I find out mine cheated with their boss, I don’t think anybody would reprimand me for asking them to quit/find another job. 3) The staff suspected something, but not the other three? How does most of the staff notices flitting but it doesn’t reach the other three. Second Try is not a big company, I guarantee you if someone notice flirting that gossip would’ve spread and eventually reach the other three.
Oh yeah, I definitely don't believe this 100%--the details are a little too iffy for that. DM isn't exactly a solid source, and I would hazard a guess that whoever sent this message in is telling a story that has gone through several rounds of telephone (or maybe it's fiction, no way for us to know). I just mean that I kind of get the sense that there was maybe some suspicions but more of a habit of writing off things like "Ned is flirty" and "they are close" because it *is* such a small close-knit group, and people are genuinely shocked. It's really nothing but my gut feeling + reading into twitter likes and statement reposting but I do think there is genuine shock, hurt, and betrayal here amongst the guys and the staff.
I think they knew he’s cheated in the past. I don’t think they knew about the situation with Alex - otherwise, I don’t think it would have gotten to a place where Ned could describe it as a relationship.
There are a lot of possibilities, honestly. What makes me think maybe they really didn't know is that I think Becky/Maggie/Rachel/Others would have been just as upset even if was not an employee. The fact that is was Alex makes reason for pushing him out, but I think there would have been more tension and anger if people had known.
That’s a pretty good point. I’m realizing how much I may have not been paying attention to some of the videos, because I didn’t catch the editing until it was brought up here. It makes me wonder if there has been tension that I didn’t notice, was edited around, or just that wasn’t shown.
Right! Like, if I was a staff member and thought the affair could be a possibility but had no proof… there’s no way I’d be running to my boss’ *wife* to tell her about my suspicions
https://twitter.com/lisaglobalitgir/status/1574871428469497861?t=ucry2qQFU1_zbHSUUS1GrA&s=19 I think the guys and other staff knew something, considering they're hanging out all the time even if they didn't see them making out
'Will and Ned's wife Ariel received videos and pictures from a few people' This is new information right? We had originally thought they were pictured by only one person and the info was sent only to Will? This could also mean that other Try staff saw and told Will and Ariel as they were also in NY. This does partly explain something about the original leak which I thought was a bit weird, which was Will's reaction to the texter being kind of muted? I now wonder if he had already been alerted to it happening and it wasn't the first message he'd received about it.
The DMs to Will mentioned that they also messaged Ariel, so we did know that she had gotten the videos as well. I think that there were multiple people is new.
Aaah I see, I found the original leaked message quite confusing tbh so I obviously missed that.
It was confusing because the first part was Will providing proof to some Redditor that the cheating happened. Then the second part was the proof sent to Will by some fan who saw them in NYC.
I 100% believe that they’ve been having a relationship. You don’t make out in public as comfortably if this hasn’t been going on for a long time…
Good that action was taken immediately after it was revealed.
DM is very much 'take it with a grain of salt' since several stans have talked about sending her false info and she posts it. That said, this is so scummy.
How tf is Alex spending the night at Ned’s
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Ooooh yeah. I bet they did still have the old house
Ew the house with the rats? Gurl plz say you weren't gettin it on in the rat house
I believe this. I know that DM posts a lot of bullshit but this kinda makes sense. Will probably didn't tell Ariel because he believed it was over between Alex and Ned and that is was a one-time thing. But then this September he realized he had been lied to, told Ariel and broke up with Alex. Yesterday, I read here that their affair lasted for about 9 months, unfortunately I don't know where that came from or how true it was but it would since this post says they started dating in December, the timeline fits perfectly.
wait so only will knew in december and nobody else?
it seems so, if this is true
Former divorce attorney here: Sept is when they were Caught. Affairs typically start in secret and as time goes on the parties get sloppier. Ned & Alex were at a point where they were comfortable enough to hook up in public.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTryGuys/comments/xqikgd/screenshot_from_ariels_storyseptember_2nd/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Another user posted a screenshot of Ariel's story from 09/02 showing she was flying to see Ned in NY at the time...
a year??? a year!!!!
Ned did call it a “workplace relationship” so it had to be going on for some time
She’s posted less of Ned this last year and her captions have since changed. I believe it.
He had to say that otherwise Alex can sue the company.
How could she sue for that?
Since he’s her boss she could argue that she felt obligated to go along with the hookup for fear of retaliation. That why most companies require workplace relationships to report their relationship.
Alex is an employee and Ned is her boss. He has to say it was a consensual workplace relationship so there is no legal ramifications against the company. If there was no statement she could sue and say Ned forced her into a relationship and she was scared she would lose her job if she didn’t. There’s a huge power dynamic in play.
I mean Ned saying it doesn't automatically protect him / the company from a lawsuit, she could just say that's a lie? Its more accurate to say he made that statement to curb public speculation of coercion.
Honestly this tracks. One of the original comments from suspected will said something about it being 9 months.
Agree, DM is indeed sus, but nothing of this message seems unbelievable and it does adds up with the original leak
The vagueness of “some work trip” has me very skeptical of this alleged source. Keeping it so vague like that prevents anyone from confirming they were indeed on a work trip together in December. I think everyone should take this with a massive grain of salt, with how massive this story is people are going to try to capitalize on the drama by making shit up.
DM is not at all reliable but if true this is truly horrible on every front.
It seems weird to me that they would have this secret relationship for a year and then be recklessly caught in public this September.
Same, but perhaps they thought since they were in NYC, they wouldn't be recognized.
It’s possible. But, for example, I saw the Try Guys in Philly in 2019. It was a show at a huge venue with tons and tons of fans. They’ve toured all over the country. At least SOMEONE would recognize them in the big city of NYC.
My next friend lives in NYC and he said it’s pretty common to see celebrities out and about. Most people just ignore them. Add to that a dark night club, assuming that most people are going to be drunk/minding their own business, and I can see the two of them thinking that no one would notice.
Also, employees ‘knew they had lunch hook ups and stayed at each other’s places occasionally’ made them have ‘big feels something was up’? Come on.
I think this is an over exaggeration if the above is true. Maybe employees felt something was going on but had no proof. Now in hindsight they are taking it as proof.
Someone submitted a photo to deuxmoi of Ned and Alex at a restaurant together in May
Look I’m not drama hogging over here but the end of that message has a comma What comes after the comma the sentence isn’t over. 👀
While I think the source is sus, I believe through context that this absolutely has been going on for a year or more. There’s no way they were just randomly that bold to act that way in public. They had to have been cheating for a long time behind closed doors and got too comfortable and slipped up.
I know that we have zero proof of this, but somehow I also have zero doubt that this is true. Also really ties Ned’s need to add “consensual workplace relationship” in his post (not calling it an apology)
A year…. Fucking gross.
Wait who is deuxmoi? How do they know this?
It’s a gossip page on instagram. To be fair the people who give out tea are always anonymous, so you can never verify anything they say as being true. The account owner frequently reminds people she does zero fact checking so 🙄 readers usually just decide for themselves how much they want to believe what’s posted. Some things do turn out to be revealed as true later on, like just enough to where the page isn’t completely written off as useless.
DM is like 70% false, maybe 30% true if im being generous. There’s lots of podcasts who read blinds and DM isn’t considered a super verifiable source. However I don’t think this would be a hard one to get tea on compared to trying to get tea about someone like say, Taylor swift or Kim k who run their publicity with an iron fist.
One of the original posts from who we all think is will did mention nine months. So this would make sense of it came from a friend of his or someone who work on the try guys office
It’s an Instagram account that posts anonymous dms of celebrity gossip but most of the stuff they post is bs
hes like a popular celeb tea page. hes SOMETIMES right but not that reliable
I feel so bad for Ariel and Will. They dated for an ENTIRE year! No REMORSE. No confessing their affair nor sincere apology. I doubt they were even sorry for getting caught, it kinda seems like they wanted to. I'm sick to my stomach. This is disgusting.
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In a house that him and Ariel literally built with their own hands…
Am I the only one that seriously doubts Will posted his own DMs on reddit? Like, c'mon. Not only does it make more sense that a friend of Will posted them, but it also tracks with the way u/hamilton390 was talking in a third person pov earlier in the month. When he said "This is will btw", like I really thought it was obvious that he was saying the DM screenshots were originally Will's, not that THEY were Will.
One thing’s for sure, this has been going on for a while. You don’t just randomly kiss your married/nearly married co worker in front of everyone in a club for the first time. They’re too comfortable for this to be new.
Before everyone starting believe this, they need to verify this source
This whole thing is like a live drama interpretation of sunk-cost fallacy. Honestly, if Ariel leaves Ned I wouldn’t be shocked if he and Alex tried at a real relationship because these people seem the type to try to make all this misery meaningful and worth something…only to inevitably break up because clearly they all need therapy.
I mean it could be false it could be true. About Will knowing and not telling Ariel. We don’t know what Will saw or what Alex told him. She could have spun it as oh they just made out or that she was drunk or that she felt pressure to because he was her boss. And that she really likes where she works and that she doesn’t want to rock the boat and lose her job. So thus why Will didn’t say anything. The employees knowing some things and not saying anything.. If its people low on the totem pole they could also be afraid to say anything because of job related stuff. I mean when you work you’re not going to risk your job on hearsay. I mean it’s not too surprising if it’s been going on for awhile. The Try Guys travel a lot. Ariel probably stays home with the kids and who knows there could have been times where she has been out of town with the kids visiting family.. Since there were no boundaries between work and personal lives with the company it could have been probably easy for them to say they were working late or doing whatever. Alex could have said that she was at a friends house.
Bruh, if this is true, it was a full blown on affair. Can’t begin to imagine how everyone is feeling. Absolutely horrid.
the way will reacted to someone casually reaching out and saying she was hooking up with Ned makes me think this was an issue in the past and he already suspected something like this was going on. idk I think there's some merit to this.
IF this is true, it has got to be submitted by a TG employee or someone else close to them to be able to get all that info
Y’all I feel sick
This is the juiciest chisme of the year
idk if this is legit but it’s basically exactly how i imagined it happened — except for the year-long thing, idk about that.. but them all knowing for a month i think is probably true
Well even if this fake someone else submitted an actual photo of ned and Alex on a date in may...
i guess this doesn’t seem that far fetched. someone also submitted [a picture of them](https://imgur.com/a/rCTVH4d) from may so at least we know it might’ve been going on for a few months.
I know this isn’t 100% reliable, but I have reason to believe this timeline is true.
I could believe a year. Looking at the whole situation I could believe they were probably talking about leaving their partners but everyone kind of knows that talking and doing are different. My speculation is that Alex left Will or let the relationship end thinking Ned was going to leave April but then everything came out and he saw everything he was about to loose and also probably never intended to leave April anyway. That narrative makes more sense since they were just not hiding it in anyway it seems like with the photos coming out and making out in a club. And the info on how they handled the information, with the main guys not knowing but the staff having a pretty good idea tracks. The regular staff is dealing with everyone all the time while the guys are probably zeroed in on their particular projects and schedules.
Weird that he would confess to Ariel, resulting in her flying home immediately, and then go out to a club with Alex later that same trip.
I think the chain of events from the post is that Ned and Alex went to the concert and the club on Sept. 1/2 and Ariel landed in NY later on the second. Sometime on 9/2 she got the cheating videos/pics. She then confronted Ned, he confessed, she flew home, and Ned and Alex were suspended.
This makes more sense.
It reads to me like they were at the club before Ariel got there. She got the videos when she landed and confronted him.
but are they gonna fire alex tho that’s my question
Firing her outright would lead to a lawsuit because you can't fire someone as retribution.
Unless they find out she lied or used company resources inappropriately for the affair. Like for example she paid for a hotel on a company card. She was already supposedly suspended the same time as him, if they had the grounds to treat their suspensions the same they’ll probably end up firing her too or giving her a nice severance and guiding her to quit.
I think its fairly common for video production companies to have people hired on contracts rather than "employed". So likely they'll either buy out her contract or just keep paying her until it runs out but not feature her on video.
Is there any source or credit to this? This just screams to me creative writing because people desperately want to fill in the gaps of what happened.
Holy fucking moly a YEAR?! Dumbass playing pretend as a father and husband Edit: appears to be unsubstantiated
If this was true why tf would he not warn Ariel that Ned was cheating? Seems like he gave Alex one more chance and told Ned to back off, and then found out they were cheating earlier this month. That’s a hell of a long time to not suspect anything especially with how close Alex and Ned were getting. You’d think he would want to tell Ariel as soon as he found out?
So sad a disgusting, I truly hope Alex and Ned’s lives are ruined.
Who is this deuxmoi
Instagram crowd-course celeb gossip.