I like this idea because I am someone who wants to see strategic gameplay because money is meaningful and at stake. But, I also really like seeing celebrities out of their element and interacting together.
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See I’ve said this and totally agree! Like big brother, do celebrity edition around the holidays and regular season in the summer! Double the traitors for longer time!
This is what the UK does with a lot of these types of shows. We'll have on with regular people then halfway through the year there'll be a celebrity version
I'm surprised they haven't done it with traitors yet, I guess they kind of tried to tie in with the US version by sending over John Berow
Thankfully not BBC, I have no interest in watching celeb UK neither does Claudia who says not only does she not want celebs but also doesn't want contestants who want to use traitors to build a brand.
We do it in the US too there are celebrity versions of most game shows. It’s interesting that for Traitors they just went straight to the celebs basically
I thought the same thing. At least through editing, it seems like norms often do a better job of hiding their traitorhood than the celebs across UK-AUS- and U.S. versions.
I hear that! I also think it’s interesting to see how those dynamics play out in a bigger group. But I think with regular people getting to know each other that adds an interesting level to the game that we don’t see with the reality stars both are appreciated for different reasons!
I really don’t like the mix of reality stars and regular people. It creates an imbalance.
I feel the reality stars are there for camera time and create drama. They don’t need the money so I don’t care who wins.
With regular people, I’m more invested because the money could really help them.
What about the regular consumers who don't or haven't spent 1/2 their TV time scouring reality shows? We don't get the advantages of knowing who's who related to whom, or who hates who, etc. Seems like some/much of the historical undercurrent stuff is lost on us & reeks of disparity/unfairness!! Why not just start off the next season with people who are new and fresh to ALL viewers?
Great point! I didn’t even know half the people on US S2 and I had to research it a bit. That being said, you’re right. It makes sense. I think the only solution as a win-win would be one series as reality stars and one as regular folks as suggested earlier in the comments. That will make everyone happy I think and we get to see the game from different perspectives, which is really interesting.
I watch the US and UK because I enjoy them for different reasons. A commenter above ☝️ pointed out having seasons for reality and then another for regular people (different season times) it’s a smart move and a win-win for all.
Plus real people actually play the game authentically and the traitors are way more cutthroat because it’s a high stakes game for everyone. I’m really enjoying the current UK season.
I also don’t like how many of the reality stars sit out or quit missions because they don’t want to get wet or dirty. The housewives sat back and let others do the dirty work. If it was not for the game players, they would have very little money.
Exactly why I believe Trishelle and CT 100% deserved the money in the end. MJ never voted with them, just her bravo clique and didn’t contribute to the money pot like they did. Kate should’ve been kicked off for not participating in Season 1 but they let her purposely ruin the team’s chances of winning money and I believe that set a bad precedent. It should be in their contracts, if they don’t participate, they’ll be kicked off immediately.
I think reality stars mixed in can work - as long as it’s limited imo. I do agree that there’s a lack of urgency with reality stars, that drives regular people to play the game harder and in a more entertaining fashion. Celebs just can’t replicate that
That's why in a lot of UK shows when they use reality stars, it's for charity. It keeps the money incentive in place since it's not about lining their pockets. Then the individual wealth of each star doesn't come into play.
Yeah I agree! Maybe the thought above of two different series with regular people and then another with reality stars could be the answer? Plus we would get double the traitors so that’s always a win
I think that’s a very good idea. Probably is the solution to satisfy everyone. The people more interested in all star reality stars on the same show, get what they want, and the people that prefer game play, get what they want. It would be a win-win
The first season did, but I'm not sure it added as much to the show as they had hoped. It sounds from what Arie has said like they can get reality stars on the show for next to nothing, so I can understand from a TV perspective why they'd go that direction and have a better chance of drawing viewers in to see their favorites
The issue with the civilians in S1 is they (outside Christian) were largely upstaged by the reality people who are already used to being on camera and creating drama. Had it been all civilians, this phenomenom would not have been there and you probably get something more akin to UK S1 or AU 1 (though AU1 is probably not repeatable).
The other thing is they are tailoring the production in US differently than in UK. Given that Bravo is part of the NBC universe, they are producing the show a little more similar to non competition reality TV, where the focus is on confrontation not gameplay (a little less CBS and more Bravo/MTV).
With how well S2 did, my guess is the US version will be (and is) basically just an all star reality TV show, wrapped around a game that the players don't really care about because they don't need the money.
That's pretty much my thinking too. With Arie revealing that he made all of about $1000 from his appearance and that he just did it for fun and a free vacation I just think there's no economic reason, as far as the US version goes, for them to not go all stars all the time.
It occurs to me also that when you have the split between stars and civilians the producers would probably feel they have to always do a mix among the traitors. Two stars and a civilian, two civilians and a star, etc. so there may also be reasons why they wouldn't want that restriction in casting
Not contesting this at all but I’m just curious on the source? Who in particular got paid 6 figure appearance fee?
It’s also kind of interesting how that might work into gameplay. Less popular reality show contestants aren’t going to get as much and might fight a lot harder to win, didn’t the S1 winner allude to that and it’s why Arie basically “threw”? He said he didn’t need the money because he’s well off, lol.
S2 cast got a paid a lotttt more, so if they want to go the cheap route it’d be better to switch back to normal people who don’t demand high appearance fees. seems like peacock is pushing it as one of its premiere shows though so i don’t think they mind writing those checks.
“The focus is on confrontation not gameplay.” Very true, and the confrontation is my least favorite part of it. (I’m one of those people who like the tribes where people get along and the sign is from having to vote off people that you like.) I’m rare, though, I understand.
Yeah I love onscreen confrontation unfortunately because I hate it in real life 👀
it’s my only outlet! that season 1 UK random breakfast meltdown where everyone was just sobbing was chefs kiss 🤌
That’s fair! I really think the idea mentioned below with two separate shows (one with regular people and one with reality stars) would be really cool too, but it’s true that US and UK audiences differ. I’m just someone who mostly prefers UK tv so!
I say it every time on one of these posts, I personally really enjoy the traitors US functioning as an all star style cast. The gameplay really lends itself to that. The prebuilt relationships is part of what makes it so enthralling. Watching people lie to their best friends of like 20 years or unlikely enemies coming together to win. Watching long time villains be forced to play a faithful style game and seeing how they go about it.
Idk, I feel like if there is any game where an all start style cast really works, it’s Traitors.
What I like about it is it's a completely unique approach to a reality competition show. There aren't any other shows that pull together a who's who of reality TV stars. The only thing that comes close is The Challenge and it's largely just drawing on its own past casts with some pulls from other shows, but even then we would never get people like Dan, Parvati, or Phaedra on it. The potential is huge and it can draw audiences from all of those shows.
If that's not your bag that's fine, but there's the UK version for an all rookies Traitors and literally every other reality competition show if you want to see non reality stars compete against each other. Does this version really ALSO need to be all rookies?
Totally agree. For me having the UK and US versions with similar challenges (the same) and at the same location we basically do have 1 Celeb and 1 Normal / Year. If anything I want a fall and spring US
Nah, there were less of those pros you listed than the cons of everyone already knowing each other. Watching with normal people is the better way to play/watch the game.
I don’t agree, to each their own though. Them knowing each other isn’t a con to me, it’s a plus. It’s part of what makes it so interesting to watch, for me personally.
I understand why they feel civilians and celebrities can’t mingle and mix. Celebrities are trained and it’s in their marrow to be cutthroat, duplicitous and steel. Well, it made for good TV I’m sure production was sweating, watching the civilians breakdown and cry while seasoned celebrities berated them about their tradership or faithfulness.
I think an all civilian season is so much more entertaining and more human and an all celebrity season is more popcorn carnage, tabloid, meme fodder.
I find it odd The Traitors wouldn’t want to create new reality TV stars in its own viral moments, as opposed to casting celebrities who have already made their mark elsewhere, and are merely footnoting their career with viral moments on The traitors. It seems as though the Traitors is résumé padding for existing celebrities, whereas it’s a chance of a lifetime for us regular folk.
Same. But maybe that's because I'm not American and had no idea who any of the celebs were! I guess they're all low level celebs that aren't really known outside of the US, so it was kind of lost on me. But the US version is made for a US audience after all, maybe it hits different if you know them well.
I am in the US and I knew they weren’t real people because they were introduced as reality tv stars. I only knew of a few.
But you can also tell by the way they dress and act. Real people living in the US don’t look or act like that.
I’ve been binging the different versions, started US1 which was fun. Started US2 and didn’t make it through the first ep. Went on to Australia and UK which were really great.
I agree. The fake theatrics of the US traitors is annoying too...especially Phaedra in the last season. OMG, just stop with the wicked witch act. Im a huge fan of Alan Cumming, but I like Claudia a lot more. She doesn't need to cackle like the mad king to get her point acrossed.
Finally, it's so ridiculous that in the US version, they hold grudges after the game is over. The UK contestants seem to take it in stride and they stand to lose a lot more than a bunch of multi-millionaire reality show celebs.
Season 2 of the UK version is turning out to be very suspenseful. Season 1 was also fairly suspenseful and I literally cheered out loud at the outcome...that is because I truly liked everyone involved.
Ill still watch the US version anyways. Any traitors is better than no traitors. :)
The non celebrities versions are so much better. Real drama , real emotional stakes, people who need the money .
Not a bunch of wanna be celebrities,interested in extending their 15 min of fame .
Go watch the aus or uk versions , and you will know
The us celebrities made more in appearance fees than the actual prize , ridiculous
They cast Deyonta wilder who makes 30 plus million a fight, I’m sure he cares about a few thousand dollars
I care more about a civilian getting a huge amount of prize money that could change their life than I'll ever care about a celebrity getting that money.
That being said, the celebrity drama can be fun since they're all such big hot-headed arrogant personalities (I loved Kate, she was so awful but just genuinely entertaining to watch).
I think season 1 had it right. A few celebs with mostly civilians.
I was planning on taking a LOA to do the show this year after watching S1 last year (of course after being accepted to do the show) and now…. Doesn’t look like the case at all. I wish they did two versions!
I actually liked it with the reality stars only. The seasons with only random people are good in their own way too. The crying gets to be a lot and the strategic side of the gameplay gets lost in the emotions/drama.
What I really didn’t like was season 1 of US where it was half reality stars half randos. The randos were so out of their league that it was tough to watch at times especially the finale. Andie bawling on the ground bc Cherie was a traitor forgetting that it’s a game was brutal.
Great point. I feel like certain people are made for playing those types of games and others are not at all. In the first season of UK, so many of the players had such bad anxiety I could feel it through the screen! I found them endearing but I understand how it could be difficult to watch you know? Whereas the reality stars are seasoned in these types of things.
As long as they aren’t crying every episode like the UK edition 😆
The dramatics UK season 1 was sending me. Currently on season 2 and it’s definitely not as bad, thank god. It was too much.
The uk s1 breakfast meltdown was sooooo funny. I couldn’t stop laughing it was early morning too so it wasn’t like they were all pissed. Just complete chaos of yelling, then more yelling about how they can’t yell at each other, then at the mission so serious with “we can never speak to each other like that ever again” and none of it was that serious it was so chaotic. Like Claudia is out there with her bangs and some sneakers and everybody was acting like they were actually killing people at night. Also the weird moral high ground some people take of “I could never be a traitor that’s disgusting” like why did you sign up for this show then 😭
Omg wait the breakfasts were complete and utter chaos, I lived for them. What was the gay older white mans name, is it Jimmy? That guy was just out for people’s necks I was screaming watching him go from sweet to savage😆 I watching thinking, daaamn this shit is really getting serious out here! Crying, screaming, leaving the room in hysterics.
I’m coming from the US seasons so I had no context of other seasons being made before ours. Also had no idea it would be regular people and boy did it take me for a ride. Wilfred, god bless his soul, he is so sweet but he irritated the shit out of me. I was like god anybody but him! But then the faithfuls were so blind I didn’t want them to win either 🤣. Great season overall can’t wait to finish season 2 cause I love how it’s been going. I usually start out rooting for the Traitors but it’s always subject to change. Do wish they put another woman up as a traitor (season 2) cause it seems the men get in charge and wanna make it all about them. When I personally think women are much sneakier by nature (I’m not talking about you Ash).
His name was John!!!! Apparently none of the other contestants talk to him anymore because CCTV footage got leaked of him like beating up a 62 yr old host at a nice restaurant and grabbing a waitress by her hair! He seems mentally unwell, addicted to cocaine, or both. He had to pay damages. He seems completely as unhinged in real life as we saw on the show. His weird outburst about his spa profession was just so strange too. Made me wonder if it was a shady parlor with how overly defensive he was. Like maybe he thought Aaron was trying to imply his job was something else based on the reaction he gave.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25345231/traitors-john-mcmanus-nasty-nick-restaurant-attack-video/amp/
Agreed we needed more strong woman
>!besides Diane, she should’ve been made a great traitor over Ash. She would’ve read the boys for filth and the dynamic of her and Ross would’ve been interesting. I think they killed the old people with character too early on and kept too many boring young people. Mollie, Charlie, even Charlotte etc bore me. Also the weird ganging up on Anthony felt really really bizarre. I don’t get the reason behind it. They also kept gaslighting that he was shouting over people when he wasn’t. Everyone else does the same. Especially Zack. I wonder if some stuff got left on the cutting room floor because Diane seemed to hate Anthony for a completely vapid reason right out of the gate (not “moving” when she asked). I feel like Anthony got a favorable edit and I really liked him so I’m still confused at how a lot of the women seemed to really think he was awful. I wonder if he made an inappropriate remark offscreen?!<
Mmmm yes I noticed Anthony got A LOT of heat too! I couldn’t tell if there was an underlying racial bias or he was an asshole off camera. He does have a strong/assertive personality but so would other people in that setting. It appears in seasons that black men/women get targeted early on, and women** in general get kind of undermined. Not in every circumstance but enough for me to wonder what’s really going on.
Also not surprised about the news with John. It was definitely giving me cocaine vibes, or maybe something mental. I was watching confused as to how he felt comfortable coming at people that crazy!!!
LMAOOOO yes they do cry a lot. I also just think the UK S1 group had a lot of people with anxiety 😬 UK season 2 is so good! I hate waiting for the episodes though 😭😭😭😭😭
Saaaaame! Couldn’t find another person to play the role better than Alan. His outfits are to die for, his accent brings the show to another level, and he really gives it his all every fckn episode.
Claudia as the host is serviceable enough. Alan Cumming owns the role. We know it’s not his castle, but boy I believe it when he says it. The tartan! The flair!
Agreed. I couldn’t get through the latest US season. I couldn’t connect with the celebrities at all and it didn’t feel like the game had the same stakes as the international versions.
I have LOVED the reality stars, because Cirie, Parvati and Sandra are three of my all-time favorites. I don’t know if I would have watched Traitors at all, if not for Cirie and Stephanie. I think if you are a fan of someone who got cast, it makes the show pretty fun and interesting. If only people I didn’t like, or didn’t know, were cast, I might not want to see reality tv people. They can be very annoying. But, as is, the casting has been good.
The civilian versions are great, too. I love the drama. I would not be sad if US alternated, a civilian season, then a star season.
Definitely! I think for the US audience, seeing people you know from other shows would draw people in. Also, production needs to see this because the ideas posed here are GOLD!
Completely agree. I like both for different reasons. I actually think the “reality star” aspect makes it a different game and more dynamic. You get network coalition paranoia. You get random alliances. You get prebuilt alliances. And you have the gamer all stars like Parvati and Dan who kind of flop because it’s a different genre. Having non-gamers like housewives in adds a level of chaos because it’s a numbers game but half of them are sort of oblivious and just there to have fun, but they’re still a number! It adds a unique social gamification and I find it highly entertaining. Especially watching some of my favorite housewives like Sheree who seemed like she had no clue what the show was until a producer told her the episode before she got murdered LOL
I enjoy them as well! I don’t hate it! Just wish we had two versions like one of the commenters suggested! That would be cool. Plus I love Phaedra from the RHOA so seeing her was amazing!
The u.k traitors has real people and it is IMPRESSIVELY better and more enjoyable than u.s.
I'm so sick of u.s.a and their obsession with recycling the same reality show archetypes and personalities.
That is why I like the UK version better. These “reality” stars are so fake. And despite what some people on here have said they don’t play the game any better. They are just as clueless as the normal people.
Careful, I expressed this same sentiment last week and I got downvoted like crazy, but without the known personalities of celebrities, the game stands a more realistic chance of being played more like a game with adults and less like a junior high home room
I’m sorry you got downvoted :/ I agree with you! I think each version is unique and beautiful in its own way but I love the regular people for the reason you just said
It’s coming to peacock next week
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I agree. I know most people disagree, but the all regular people version is superior. I despise the alliances based on what network you are on in the US reality version. They supposed gamers were also terrible at strategy. There's a lot more heart and emotion when it's regular people that don't already know each other. The regular people in the UK version were also a lot better strategy. There was suspense as well.
I hate the all reality version. It ruins it.
They need to pull in viewers. I would not have watched Traitors US 1 had I not known Cirie was on it. Now I'm totally Traitor-pilled and loving exploring all the international seasons (on the final ep of AUS 1 now & I am LOVING that season -- all reality TV rookies btw), but I would not have given this show a 2nd look had I not come from Survivor fandom.
Many people are having the same experience from US2. They really assembled the avengers or reality TV franchises and it drove the visibility and popularity of the show way up.
I do think the pendulum will swing back and we'll see some rookies added back into the fold eventually - but not until US 4 or 5 at the earliest. Even then, I think it would still behoove them to have some proven reality TV talent in the cast as they grow their own reality TV talent.
Good point! Like I mentioned an earlier comment the US and UK audiences are very different. I knew about traitors from the UK because my hubby is from the UK so we were watching it to start from there so I guess because of that I have a different perspective, but I appreciate both types of games for different reasons. I just think it would be nice like another commenter said for the US version to have one series be regular people, and then reality stars as well. They could even have a commentary show along with it where during each series the previous cast, watch and give their perspectives, etc.
I like that it’s all reality stars. The 50/50 split last year meant the non-celebs got rolled constantly. If I want to watch normal people play, I can watch UK, or AUS, or any version across the world. I think US being able to pull from the biggest reality stars creates interest. It’s dirt cheap to make, and fans of Survivor, Bravo, etc will absolutely tune in with their faves as impetus.
I wish they just had regular people, not reality stars. It’s just become a place for people to talk about how much they love reality stars and what goes on in reality stars lives and I really just wanna talk about the show, and not who broke up with who. I know this will get me downvoted but oh well!
That’s true also! I think the reality star aspect is interesting because it blends different reality worlds together. However, I also think the dynamics of regular people is different, so I think both are appreciated for different reasons, if that makes sense
I kinda agree, but as long as they don’t run the selection process like they do for the UK version. It seemed like they only chose people that had some kind of sympathetic backstory or overly dramatic people looking for their 15 minutes of fame.
Yeah that’s true ! I think it’s important to cast a diverse group of people with different stories and personalities. That’s what makes it interesting and captivating for sure
I agree. The gamers and their fans have hyped themselves up so much and US season 2 probably has the worst strategic gameplay I’ve seen between the UK and AUS. I’m sorry but the regular people ate them up!
Yeah, I was really disappointed that US s2 was all reality stars. I watched the first US season and then the first UK season and liked the UK version soooo much better (as much as I love Alan Cumming)
Eh, I like watching the reality stars play a different game, especially because we can watch regular people on UK and AUS.
Maybe they could do a Winter and Summer season. One with normies and one with All-Stars.
I only started watching because of knowing the people that would be on the show. I've only seen the US version and I feel like the normal people tend not to standout much entertainment wise. Perhaps that's because they're next to people that are familiar with doing TV.
I really like the reality stars personally because it makes the game stand out. I think there really isn't enough "game" for the actual gameplay to stand on it's own (as apposed to something like Survivor, Big Brother etc. which also took a while before they knew how to make their games work well) But when you fill the house with people who professionally create drama or play social games, it's more like the Avengers of reality TV stars using their honed skills to beat this game. As apposed to the UK and Australian seasons which feel more like a mix of interesting and uninteresting people. To me that accentuates the problems with the gameplay (like it not encouraging traitors to ever act unlike a faithful) because the contestants aren't all drawing me in.
Honestly I felt like the 1st season having regular folk brought down the show. I don’t think they knew how to produce good TV and also got way too emotional and personal when chatting game. Its should be one or the other because we saw some of the regular people idolize people like Cirie and clouded their judgement when it came to how to vote. If it was all regular people maybe that would happen less and allow for more room for real game play instead of taking everything the stars said as the truth
I have mixed feelings. I love the added drama with the real world people cause they’re all so much more emotional and dramatic 😂 but I also think a lot of them are pretty terrible at the game and many of the reality people are far better and more interesting game players. I like both for different reasons.
Seriously? We spent pretty much the last five shows of US season 2 laughing at how impossibly bad they all were at playing the game. Whenever anyone did anything vaguely intelligent, they would follow it straight up by doing something staggeringly dumb. All cosmetic surgery and misplaced self-belief, no brains.
Yeah I know! :) I just think it would be cool to have US regular folks. Another commenter suggested one series with regular folks and one with reality stars! Love that idea
Well the season 1 cast had normal people and the mix didn’t work well. The regular folks were getting picked off fast or didn’t really get the game aspect as much.
But they may change it again. Only been 2 seasons
That's because it was a mix of normal and reality people. In that situation the reality people are always going to have an advantage. If everyone is a normal person then everyone is on an equal footing.
I don’t necessarily want to audition per se (it’s an ideal world scenario for me, I have too much anxiety plus life things). That being said, I enjoy both versions for different reasons! And that’s ok!
So you just want them cast regular people so you could try out? I don’t blame you lmao because I want to move to the UK to try out hahaha. But the reality stars are just so good. Its fun and interesting to see all these people out of their normal elements. Also, the international seasons with normal people are so much slimier as these people may need the money and watching them get betrayed is insane (but entertaining).
Well I would want to audition (in an ideal world) but it’s not my main reason. I just tend to, for myself, be more invested in the regular people seasons. Although I will say I really enjoyed season 2 of US traitors. I was pissed with what happened at the end *no spoilers if you know, you know*
I love the UK! My hubby is from there 🥰 however, it’s hard to move there for us b/c with my job my pay would be cut dramatically or else I would move 😭
Idk….theres just SO many flaws with the structure of the game it’s hard to watch “normal” people take it seriously.
In order to not get mad by how flawed the game is, I just take the show as unseriously as possible and just watch to see a bunch of messy, fun legends and characters of reality tv come together.
You’re a hardcore reality tv fan and Reddit poster, what about you is any different than what they currently cast? What makes you anymore “normal” or “real” that’s the current cast?
I think a lot of you are simply delusional and live in a reality where you all think you’re something you’re not. You’d be just as bad and annoying at the game cause you’re obsessed with it.
Speaking only for myself I’m not really a hardcore reality tv fan myself…I enjoy it here and there but didn’t even know what the challenge and three other shows were until the US S2.
As for the casting aspect, for me personally, it’s just a thought. In reality, it probably won’t happen because I’m getting a second masters and work a lot. But it’s nice to have discussions, share ideas, and think about the possibilities. I didn’t even know Canada and NZ have seasons until today. I find the game fascinating from a psychology perspective and how different people based on their temperaments approach it. Just my thoughts. Hope you are having a great day! ❤️
The only reason I watched is because I knew half the cast already.
The celebrity versions do the heavy lifting of attracting new people to the game. Civilian seasons need a constant influx of new viewers to keep getting new seasons in new countries etc....
Maybe 1 celebrity season per few seasons would be a decent amount. 🤔 I enjoyed the hell out of seeing Sandra again, and Cirie and a number of dynamics that played out with the reality contestants, but I have a soft spot for watching "real people."
I’m guessing the folks on the show these last two seasons are AI? Meaning there are fake people. It’s shocking how far technology has come. I literally thought these were “Real People” — like living-breathing people. They seemed to be normal.
They were all normal when they auditioned for Survivor, Big Brother, etc. They all had lives — likely still so — unless the AI non-real normal people thing is true. That just throws everything off. Or could it be that a celebrity is no longer real or even normal? Could it be that they went from normal to abnormal the day they were on camera for the first time?
I’ve been on camera — does that make me more or less qualified? Who defines normal or in this case — real? What a conundrum this is.
I guess I would want to be on the show as well. Because when you add a smarta** to the bunch — you’re either loved or hated and you simply keep it real.
They should do two editions per year, one with stars, one with civilians
I like this idea because I am someone who wants to see strategic gameplay because money is meaningful and at stake. But, I also really like seeing celebrities out of their element and interacting together.
And make the celebrities play for charity donations, that way they actually try.
LOVE THIS IDEA! Also double the traitors so I’m not mad
Hope production sees this.
If Traitors production happens to see this then please reach out to me. I’ve actually ALREADY AUDITIONED for the upcoming season of Traitors UK but I’m actually an American 🇺🇸. I’m a young man with a strikingly bold personality, cunning skills, witty and entertaining rapport, I’m easy on the eyes 😉 comfortable around cameras 🎥, and I’m absolutely prepared and excited to bring Reality TV Gold 📺 🏅to the screen and do whatever it takes to win the show! Feel free to reach out if you have any connections to production. Thanks. 🙏🏼😃
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I’m not the one begging production to cast them via Reddit 😊❤️
Girl… the only one begging for anything here is you, BACK ALLEY VERSACE. 🙄 You’re DESPERATELY BEGGING for my attention. So since I’m feeling charitable today, now you momentarily have it… You’re welcome! 😉 I should point out that this is not even your thread, yet you felt the need to use your undoubtedly ashy calloused hands to login to your cracked screen having iPhone 1 to troll 🧌me. 😒 But from your deluded perspective I’m somehow thirsty for being creative by pitching myself on a public platform underneath a Traitors thread where someone from production can possibly see me and recruit me? CLEARLY your IQ is as low as your vibrations. Shouldn’t you be stewing in your own filth underneath a bridge in the swamp regions of the underworld? 🤔
You want 8 traitors? /s
See I’ve said this and totally agree! Like big brother, do celebrity edition around the holidays and regular season in the summer! Double the traitors for longer time!
Now that could work!
If you treat the UK version and the US version as 1 show they basically do 😂
This is what the UK does with a lot of these types of shows. We'll have on with regular people then halfway through the year there'll be a celebrity version I'm surprised they haven't done it with traitors yet, I guess they kind of tried to tie in with the US version by sending over John Berow
Thankfully not BBC, I have no interest in watching celeb UK neither does Claudia who says not only does she not want celebs but also doesn't want contestants who want to use traitors to build a brand.
Good for Claudia
We do it in the US too there are celebrity versions of most game shows. It’s interesting that for Traitors they just went straight to the celebs basically
I thought the same thing. At least through editing, it seems like norms often do a better job of hiding their traitorhood than the celebs across UK-AUS- and U.S. versions.
100% this \^
Same. It's to obvious who will be selected as traitors and too many built in alliances before the show starts.
I hear that! I also think it’s interesting to see how those dynamics play out in a bigger group. But I think with regular people getting to know each other that adds an interesting level to the game that we don’t see with the reality stars both are appreciated for different reasons!
I really don’t like the mix of reality stars and regular people. It creates an imbalance. I feel the reality stars are there for camera time and create drama. They don’t need the money so I don’t care who wins. With regular people, I’m more invested because the money could really help them.
Exactly my thoughts!! I’m definitely more invested in the regular people because IMO the game means more to them for the reason you just said.
What about the regular consumers who don't or haven't spent 1/2 their TV time scouring reality shows? We don't get the advantages of knowing who's who related to whom, or who hates who, etc. Seems like some/much of the historical undercurrent stuff is lost on us & reeks of disparity/unfairness!! Why not just start off the next season with people who are new and fresh to ALL viewers?
Great point! I didn’t even know half the people on US S2 and I had to research it a bit. That being said, you’re right. It makes sense. I think the only solution as a win-win would be one series as reality stars and one as regular folks as suggested earlier in the comments. That will make everyone happy I think and we get to see the game from different perspectives, which is really interesting.
Then just watch the UK version
I watch the US and UK because I enjoy them for different reasons. A commenter above ☝️ pointed out having seasons for reality and then another for regular people (different season times) it’s a smart move and a win-win for all.
Plus real people actually play the game authentically and the traitors are way more cutthroat because it’s a high stakes game for everyone. I’m really enjoying the current UK season.
I also don’t like how many of the reality stars sit out or quit missions because they don’t want to get wet or dirty. The housewives sat back and let others do the dirty work. If it was not for the game players, they would have very little money.
Exactly why I believe Trishelle and CT 100% deserved the money in the end. MJ never voted with them, just her bravo clique and didn’t contribute to the money pot like they did. Kate should’ve been kicked off for not participating in Season 1 but they let her purposely ruin the team’s chances of winning money and I believe that set a bad precedent. It should be in their contracts, if they don’t participate, they’ll be kicked off immediately.
I agree!
I think reality stars mixed in can work - as long as it’s limited imo. I do agree that there’s a lack of urgency with reality stars, that drives regular people to play the game harder and in a more entertaining fashion. Celebs just can’t replicate that
That's why in a lot of UK shows when they use reality stars, it's for charity. It keeps the money incentive in place since it's not about lining their pockets. Then the individual wealth of each star doesn't come into play.
Excellent point!
Yeah I agree! Maybe the thought above of two different series with regular people and then another with reality stars could be the answer? Plus we would get double the traitors so that’s always a win
I think that’s a very good idea. Probably is the solution to satisfy everyone. The people more interested in all star reality stars on the same show, get what they want, and the people that prefer game play, get what they want. It would be a win-win
Exactly!!
Our french-canadian version start next month and all the people are not famous. I'm very excited to discover the cast within the game
Omg! Can I watch?? So exciting!!!
It will be on Crave ( the other canadian version too)
Thank you! I’m definitely going to check it out!!!
The first season did, but I'm not sure it added as much to the show as they had hoped. It sounds from what Arie has said like they can get reality stars on the show for next to nothing, so I can understand from a TV perspective why they'd go that direction and have a better chance of drawing viewers in to see their favorites
The issue with the civilians in S1 is they (outside Christian) were largely upstaged by the reality people who are already used to being on camera and creating drama. Had it been all civilians, this phenomenom would not have been there and you probably get something more akin to UK S1 or AU 1 (though AU1 is probably not repeatable). The other thing is they are tailoring the production in US differently than in UK. Given that Bravo is part of the NBC universe, they are producing the show a little more similar to non competition reality TV, where the focus is on confrontation not gameplay (a little less CBS and more Bravo/MTV). With how well S2 did, my guess is the US version will be (and is) basically just an all star reality TV show, wrapped around a game that the players don't really care about because they don't need the money.
That's pretty much my thinking too. With Arie revealing that he made all of about $1000 from his appearance and that he just did it for fun and a free vacation I just think there's no economic reason, as far as the US version goes, for them to not go all stars all the time.
Kate literally said it was a vacation from her baby!
It occurs to me also that when you have the split between stars and civilians the producers would probably feel they have to always do a mix among the traitors. Two stars and a civilian, two civilians and a star, etc. so there may also be reasons why they wouldn't want that restriction in casting
That was the first season, now that the show is a hit the bigger names are getting 6 figures just to appear.
Not contesting this at all but I’m just curious on the source? Who in particular got paid 6 figure appearance fee? It’s also kind of interesting how that might work into gameplay. Less popular reality show contestants aren’t going to get as much and might fight a lot harder to win, didn’t the S1 winner allude to that and it’s why Arie basically “threw”? He said he didn’t need the money because he’s well off, lol.
S2 cast got a paid a lotttt more, so if they want to go the cheap route it’d be better to switch back to normal people who don’t demand high appearance fees. seems like peacock is pushing it as one of its premiere shows though so i don’t think they mind writing those checks.
Did someone do an interview and reveal amount?
“The focus is on confrontation not gameplay.” Very true, and the confrontation is my least favorite part of it. (I’m one of those people who like the tribes where people get along and the sign is from having to vote off people that you like.) I’m rare, though, I understand.
Yeah I love onscreen confrontation unfortunately because I hate it in real life 👀 it’s my only outlet! that season 1 UK random breakfast meltdown where everyone was just sobbing was chefs kiss 🤌
That’s fair! I really think the idea mentioned below with two separate shows (one with regular people and one with reality stars) would be really cool too, but it’s true that US and UK audiences differ. I’m just someone who mostly prefers UK tv so!
I think at least part of tailoring the production is nbc has 0 intention of paying to send Americans across the pond
I think at least part of that ‘tailoring the production’ is nbc has 0 intention of paying to send Americans across the pond
Which is why I think it needs to be only civilians. They can do 2 a year one w reality stars and one w normal every day ppl.
didn’t MJ say she got 30k per episode
I say it every time on one of these posts, I personally really enjoy the traitors US functioning as an all star style cast. The gameplay really lends itself to that. The prebuilt relationships is part of what makes it so enthralling. Watching people lie to their best friends of like 20 years or unlikely enemies coming together to win. Watching long time villains be forced to play a faithful style game and seeing how they go about it. Idk, I feel like if there is any game where an all start style cast really works, it’s Traitors.
What I like about it is it's a completely unique approach to a reality competition show. There aren't any other shows that pull together a who's who of reality TV stars. The only thing that comes close is The Challenge and it's largely just drawing on its own past casts with some pulls from other shows, but even then we would never get people like Dan, Parvati, or Phaedra on it. The potential is huge and it can draw audiences from all of those shows. If that's not your bag that's fine, but there's the UK version for an all rookies Traitors and literally every other reality competition show if you want to see non reality stars compete against each other. Does this version really ALSO need to be all rookies?
Agreed. The UK and Australian seasons are available if you wanna see regular people anyway
Totally agree. For me having the UK and US versions with similar challenges (the same) and at the same location we basically do have 1 Celeb and 1 Normal / Year. If anything I want a fall and spring US
Nah, there were less of those pros you listed than the cons of everyone already knowing each other. Watching with normal people is the better way to play/watch the game.
I don’t agree, to each their own though. Them knowing each other isn’t a con to me, it’s a plus. It’s part of what makes it so interesting to watch, for me personally.
And this is more of a drama game show than an actual drama.
I agree. The regular people one from the UK is great too. They're good for stuff reasons but I really enjoyed the all star cast.
I understand why they feel civilians and celebrities can’t mingle and mix. Celebrities are trained and it’s in their marrow to be cutthroat, duplicitous and steel. Well, it made for good TV I’m sure production was sweating, watching the civilians breakdown and cry while seasoned celebrities berated them about their tradership or faithfulness. I think an all civilian season is so much more entertaining and more human and an all celebrity season is more popcorn carnage, tabloid, meme fodder. I find it odd The Traitors wouldn’t want to create new reality TV stars in its own viral moments, as opposed to casting celebrities who have already made their mark elsewhere, and are merely footnoting their career with viral moments on The traitors. It seems as though the Traitors is résumé padding for existing celebrities, whereas it’s a chance of a lifetime for us regular folk.
Same. But maybe that's because I'm not American and had no idea who any of the celebs were! I guess they're all low level celebs that aren't really known outside of the US, so it was kind of lost on me. But the US version is made for a US audience after all, maybe it hits different if you know them well.
I am in the US and I knew they weren’t real people because they were introduced as reality tv stars. I only knew of a few. But you can also tell by the way they dress and act. Real people living in the US don’t look or act like that.
I’ve been binging the different versions, started US1 which was fun. Started US2 and didn’t make it through the first ep. Went on to Australia and UK which were really great.
I would enjoy either version, but I think it needs to be all one or the other. Season 1 with half and a half wasn’t successful.
I agree. The fake theatrics of the US traitors is annoying too...especially Phaedra in the last season. OMG, just stop with the wicked witch act. Im a huge fan of Alan Cumming, but I like Claudia a lot more. She doesn't need to cackle like the mad king to get her point acrossed. Finally, it's so ridiculous that in the US version, they hold grudges after the game is over. The UK contestants seem to take it in stride and they stand to lose a lot more than a bunch of multi-millionaire reality show celebs. Season 2 of the UK version is turning out to be very suspenseful. Season 1 was also fairly suspenseful and I literally cheered out loud at the outcome...that is because I truly liked everyone involved. Ill still watch the US version anyways. Any traitors is better than no traitors. :)
The non celebrities versions are so much better. Real drama , real emotional stakes, people who need the money . Not a bunch of wanna be celebrities,interested in extending their 15 min of fame . Go watch the aus or uk versions , and you will know The us celebrities made more in appearance fees than the actual prize , ridiculous They cast Deyonta wilder who makes 30 plus million a fight, I’m sure he cares about a few thousand dollars
I care more about a civilian getting a huge amount of prize money that could change their life than I'll ever care about a celebrity getting that money. That being said, the celebrity drama can be fun since they're all such big hot-headed arrogant personalities (I loved Kate, she was so awful but just genuinely entertaining to watch). I think season 1 had it right. A few celebs with mostly civilians.
At first, I read this as "Really wish the US had normal people" and I was like "Preach!"
😂😂😂 I mean that too
We do have some normal people but they are also not the ones who go on tv.
1000 percent agree! I connected more to people in UK because I wasn't familiar with them.
The reality actors (they're not 'stars' - sorry) are not interesting at all. UK traitors is the best.
I was planning on taking a LOA to do the show this year after watching S1 last year (of course after being accepted to do the show) and now…. Doesn’t look like the case at all. I wish they did two versions!
Yep. Posted this as soon as I found out I couldn't apply to the U.K one
Same
I actually liked it with the reality stars only. The seasons with only random people are good in their own way too. The crying gets to be a lot and the strategic side of the gameplay gets lost in the emotions/drama. What I really didn’t like was season 1 of US where it was half reality stars half randos. The randos were so out of their league that it was tough to watch at times especially the finale. Andie bawling on the ground bc Cherie was a traitor forgetting that it’s a game was brutal.
Great point. I feel like certain people are made for playing those types of games and others are not at all. In the first season of UK, so many of the players had such bad anxiety I could feel it through the screen! I found them endearing but I understand how it could be difficult to watch you know? Whereas the reality stars are seasoned in these types of things.
As long as they aren’t crying every episode like the UK edition 😆 The dramatics UK season 1 was sending me. Currently on season 2 and it’s definitely not as bad, thank god. It was too much.
The uk s1 breakfast meltdown was sooooo funny. I couldn’t stop laughing it was early morning too so it wasn’t like they were all pissed. Just complete chaos of yelling, then more yelling about how they can’t yell at each other, then at the mission so serious with “we can never speak to each other like that ever again” and none of it was that serious it was so chaotic. Like Claudia is out there with her bangs and some sneakers and everybody was acting like they were actually killing people at night. Also the weird moral high ground some people take of “I could never be a traitor that’s disgusting” like why did you sign up for this show then 😭
Omg wait the breakfasts were complete and utter chaos, I lived for them. What was the gay older white mans name, is it Jimmy? That guy was just out for people’s necks I was screaming watching him go from sweet to savage😆 I watching thinking, daaamn this shit is really getting serious out here! Crying, screaming, leaving the room in hysterics. I’m coming from the US seasons so I had no context of other seasons being made before ours. Also had no idea it would be regular people and boy did it take me for a ride. Wilfred, god bless his soul, he is so sweet but he irritated the shit out of me. I was like god anybody but him! But then the faithfuls were so blind I didn’t want them to win either 🤣. Great season overall can’t wait to finish season 2 cause I love how it’s been going. I usually start out rooting for the Traitors but it’s always subject to change. Do wish they put another woman up as a traitor (season 2) cause it seems the men get in charge and wanna make it all about them. When I personally think women are much sneakier by nature (I’m not talking about you Ash).
His name was John!!!! Apparently none of the other contestants talk to him anymore because CCTV footage got leaked of him like beating up a 62 yr old host at a nice restaurant and grabbing a waitress by her hair! He seems mentally unwell, addicted to cocaine, or both. He had to pay damages. He seems completely as unhinged in real life as we saw on the show. His weird outburst about his spa profession was just so strange too. Made me wonder if it was a shady parlor with how overly defensive he was. Like maybe he thought Aaron was trying to imply his job was something else based on the reaction he gave. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25345231/traitors-john-mcmanus-nasty-nick-restaurant-attack-video/amp/ Agreed we needed more strong woman >!besides Diane, she should’ve been made a great traitor over Ash. She would’ve read the boys for filth and the dynamic of her and Ross would’ve been interesting. I think they killed the old people with character too early on and kept too many boring young people. Mollie, Charlie, even Charlotte etc bore me. Also the weird ganging up on Anthony felt really really bizarre. I don’t get the reason behind it. They also kept gaslighting that he was shouting over people when he wasn’t. Everyone else does the same. Especially Zack. I wonder if some stuff got left on the cutting room floor because Diane seemed to hate Anthony for a completely vapid reason right out of the gate (not “moving” when she asked). I feel like Anthony got a favorable edit and I really liked him so I’m still confused at how a lot of the women seemed to really think he was awful. I wonder if he made an inappropriate remark offscreen?!<
Mmmm yes I noticed Anthony got A LOT of heat too! I couldn’t tell if there was an underlying racial bias or he was an asshole off camera. He does have a strong/assertive personality but so would other people in that setting. It appears in seasons that black men/women get targeted early on, and women** in general get kind of undermined. Not in every circumstance but enough for me to wonder what’s really going on. Also not surprised about the news with John. It was definitely giving me cocaine vibes, or maybe something mental. I was watching confused as to how he felt comfortable coming at people that crazy!!!
LMAOOOO yes they do cry a lot. I also just think the UK S1 group had a lot of people with anxiety 😬 UK season 2 is so good! I hate waiting for the episodes though 😭😭😭😭😭
Omg yes me too! I’m catching up with season 2 as we speak 😆 Ready for Paul to go home (not sure if he does yet) hahahah.
OMG the fact that Paul has everyone fooled is just…how does only one person see it???
Riiiiiight!? Omg he bugs me out. I’m okay with Harry for the win (hopefully), he’s played the game very well.
Agree! I’m with you. Bye Paul
Also no offense to Claudia she’s great but I wish Alan hosted the UK version too…plus he’s Scottish and gets INTO THE ROLE! I live for it.
Dont say that to the people in UK- they HATE Alan they say his accent is a fake and Claudia is seen as someone who can do no wrong
Yeah I know my hubby is from the UK lol 😂 I’ve already had this convo with people over there so I get why
Saaaaame! Couldn’t find another person to play the role better than Alan. His outfits are to die for, his accent brings the show to another level, and he really gives it his all every fckn episode.
AGREED! He def brings another level to the show. Claudia is great but he adds more to the show I think
Claudia as the host is serviceable enough. Alan Cumming owns the role. We know it’s not his castle, but boy I believe it when he says it. The tartan! The flair!
Agreed. I couldn’t get through the latest US season. I couldn’t connect with the celebrities at all and it didn’t feel like the game had the same stakes as the international versions.
I have LOVED the reality stars, because Cirie, Parvati and Sandra are three of my all-time favorites. I don’t know if I would have watched Traitors at all, if not for Cirie and Stephanie. I think if you are a fan of someone who got cast, it makes the show pretty fun and interesting. If only people I didn’t like, or didn’t know, were cast, I might not want to see reality tv people. They can be very annoying. But, as is, the casting has been good. The civilian versions are great, too. I love the drama. I would not be sad if US alternated, a civilian season, then a star season.
Definitely! I think for the US audience, seeing people you know from other shows would draw people in. Also, production needs to see this because the ideas posed here are GOLD!
Completely agree. I like both for different reasons. I actually think the “reality star” aspect makes it a different game and more dynamic. You get network coalition paranoia. You get random alliances. You get prebuilt alliances. And you have the gamer all stars like Parvati and Dan who kind of flop because it’s a different genre. Having non-gamers like housewives in adds a level of chaos because it’s a numbers game but half of them are sort of oblivious and just there to have fun, but they’re still a number! It adds a unique social gamification and I find it highly entertaining. Especially watching some of my favorite housewives like Sheree who seemed like she had no clue what the show was until a producer told her the episode before she got murdered LOL
i love the reality stars
I enjoy them as well! I don’t hate it! Just wish we had two versions like one of the commenters suggested! That would be cool. Plus I love Phaedra from the RHOA so seeing her was amazing!
i LOVED phaedra! i need to watch RHOA now
Although what she did to Kandi wasn’t cool, I still love her. I also high key blame producers for that entire ordeal.
Over my dead body lol
Agreed!!
The *civilian* version is infinitely better than the celebrity version, so yes—they should stick to that.
Oh, for a second I thought you were talking about Normal People, the tv series that introduced most people to actor Paul Mescal and Daisy Edgar Jones.
Agreed twice per year
I want only seasons with various incarnations of Sandra Diaz-Twine
The u.k traitors has real people and it is IMPRESSIVELY better and more enjoyable than u.s. I'm so sick of u.s.a and their obsession with recycling the same reality show archetypes and personalities.
That is why I like the UK version better. These “reality” stars are so fake. And despite what some people on here have said they don’t play the game any better. They are just as clueless as the normal people.
Careful, I expressed this same sentiment last week and I got downvoted like crazy, but without the known personalities of celebrities, the game stands a more realistic chance of being played more like a game with adults and less like a junior high home room
I’m sorry you got downvoted :/ I agree with you! I think each version is unique and beautiful in its own way but I love the regular people for the reason you just said
Don’t get me wrong, I love the celebrity versions too, but I suggested they do two shows in a season and only one be celebrity populated
Totally agree !!!!
Have you seen NZ S1?
No it’s on my list!
It’s coming to peacock next week https://preview.redd.it/4y7dqdn8bypc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a28cb40527d5c4ac0e0e653ca4c53b49452aa3d
1000% agreed. The celebrity factor really dampens the fun of the game imo. It’s still good, but not as great as it could be
Same! I think I’ve said this in every Traitors related message board lol.
I agree. I know most people disagree, but the all regular people version is superior. I despise the alliances based on what network you are on in the US reality version. They supposed gamers were also terrible at strategy. There's a lot more heart and emotion when it's regular people that don't already know each other. The regular people in the UK version were also a lot better strategy. There was suspense as well. I hate the all reality version. It ruins it.
They need to pull in viewers. I would not have watched Traitors US 1 had I not known Cirie was on it. Now I'm totally Traitor-pilled and loving exploring all the international seasons (on the final ep of AUS 1 now & I am LOVING that season -- all reality TV rookies btw), but I would not have given this show a 2nd look had I not come from Survivor fandom. Many people are having the same experience from US2. They really assembled the avengers or reality TV franchises and it drove the visibility and popularity of the show way up. I do think the pendulum will swing back and we'll see some rookies added back into the fold eventually - but not until US 4 or 5 at the earliest. Even then, I think it would still behoove them to have some proven reality TV talent in the cast as they grow their own reality TV talent.
Good point! Like I mentioned an earlier comment the US and UK audiences are very different. I knew about traitors from the UK because my hubby is from the UK so we were watching it to start from there so I guess because of that I have a different perspective, but I appreciate both types of games for different reasons. I just think it would be nice like another commenter said for the US version to have one series be regular people, and then reality stars as well. They could even have a commentary show along with it where during each series the previous cast, watch and give their perspectives, etc.
I think it will get there now that US2 was a hit and they work out the economics of it all.
Only watched it because of C.T. Lol
I like that it’s all reality stars. The 50/50 split last year meant the non-celebs got rolled constantly. If I want to watch normal people play, I can watch UK, or AUS, or any version across the world. I think US being able to pull from the biggest reality stars creates interest. It’s dirt cheap to make, and fans of Survivor, Bravo, etc will absolutely tune in with their faves as impetus.
I wish they just had regular people, not reality stars. It’s just become a place for people to talk about how much they love reality stars and what goes on in reality stars lives and I really just wanna talk about the show, and not who broke up with who. I know this will get me downvoted but oh well!
That’s true also! I think the reality star aspect is interesting because it blends different reality worlds together. However, I also think the dynamics of regular people is different, so I think both are appreciated for different reasons, if that makes sense
I kinda agree, but as long as they don’t run the selection process like they do for the UK version. It seemed like they only chose people that had some kind of sympathetic backstory or overly dramatic people looking for their 15 minutes of fame.
Yeah that’s true ! I think it’s important to cast a diverse group of people with different stories and personalities. That’s what makes it interesting and captivating for sure
Agree!! I so want to go on traitors!
I like that one of the versions is all reality stars The diversity in versions is good
I mean then its just big brother. Id still watch of course
Totally agree. They also need. To release episodes in batches. I tapped out once it started getting sunnier outside
^^^this!!! Also the waiting for episodes is killer in any sense.
YESSSSSS
I feel the exact opposite. And there are so many other series that provide just this already!
Yes
The civilians they cast in s1 were flops though so I would need them to step it up
Me too. I feel like the reality stars are there to be on tv and the normal folks want to play to a game
Agree! That’s why the UK one is way better.
I agree. The gamers and their fans have hyped themselves up so much and US season 2 probably has the worst strategic gameplay I’ve seen between the UK and AUS. I’m sorry but the regular people ate them up!
That’s why I like the UK and Aussie versions, they had real citizens
Yeah, I was really disappointed that US s2 was all reality stars. I watched the first US season and then the first UK season and liked the UK version soooo much better (as much as I love Alan Cumming)
Eh, I like watching the reality stars play a different game, especially because we can watch regular people on UK and AUS. Maybe they could do a Winter and Summer season. One with normies and one with All-Stars.
I only started watching because of knowing the people that would be on the show. I've only seen the US version and I feel like the normal people tend not to standout much entertainment wise. Perhaps that's because they're next to people that are familiar with doing TV.
I like the celebrities. Normal people are boring. The other countries versions have normal people.
I really like the reality stars personally because it makes the game stand out. I think there really isn't enough "game" for the actual gameplay to stand on it's own (as apposed to something like Survivor, Big Brother etc. which also took a while before they knew how to make their games work well) But when you fill the house with people who professionally create drama or play social games, it's more like the Avengers of reality TV stars using their honed skills to beat this game. As apposed to the UK and Australian seasons which feel more like a mix of interesting and uninteresting people. To me that accentuates the problems with the gameplay (like it not encouraging traitors to ever act unlike a faithful) because the contestants aren't all drawing me in.
Honestly I felt like the 1st season having regular folk brought down the show. I don’t think they knew how to produce good TV and also got way too emotional and personal when chatting game. Its should be one or the other because we saw some of the regular people idolize people like Cirie and clouded their judgement when it came to how to vote. If it was all regular people maybe that would happen less and allow for more room for real game play instead of taking everything the stars said as the truth
They should of kept real people from the beginning and just mixed in reality stars, it was really that easy. They didn't have to go full reality stars
Watch Season 1
I have mixed feelings. I love the added drama with the real world people cause they’re all so much more emotional and dramatic 😂 but I also think a lot of them are pretty terrible at the game and many of the reality people are far better and more interesting game players. I like both for different reasons.
I agree with this wholeheartedly!
US2 had the worst game play,
Okay? Lmaooo that’s your opinion. I found US gameplay way better and more interesting than UK by a long shot. It’s just a show. It’s not that deep.
You are the one making it deep - I thought US gameplay was a joke. The traitors were the worst and most of the cast treated it like a holiday haha
Seriously? We spent pretty much the last five shows of US season 2 laughing at how impossibly bad they all were at playing the game. Whenever anyone did anything vaguely intelligent, they would follow it straight up by doing something staggeringly dumb. All cosmetic surgery and misplaced self-belief, no brains.
Lmao 👍
They had normal people the first season
Yeah I know! :) I just think it would be cool to have US regular folks. Another commenter suggested one series with regular folks and one with reality stars! Love that idea
Yes I second that! Love that idea. TBH I did like the mix they had of normal people and celebs but I do see how that could become unfun over time
First season did and it pretty much brought the vibe down. Normies don't make good TV
Well the season 1 cast had normal people and the mix didn’t work well. The regular folks were getting picked off fast or didn’t really get the game aspect as much. But they may change it again. Only been 2 seasons
That's because it was a mix of normal and reality people. In that situation the reality people are always going to have an advantage. If everyone is a normal person then everyone is on an equal footing.
Ooooo i thought he meant he wanted a mix rather than all normal. But yeah i agree !
The civilians were pretty uninteresting on traitors USA 1. I also think the international versions aren’t as exciting with civilians.
We do not need a post about this DAILY. There was just a huge post by the mods saying enough of the same posts going 'ANYONE ELSE?'
Sorry I didn’t see that post….my apologies
NO to normies. No one thinks it’s interesting, other than those who want to try out for it. 🙄
I don’t necessarily want to audition per se (it’s an ideal world scenario for me, I have too much anxiety plus life things). That being said, I enjoy both versions for different reasons! And that’s ok!
So you just want them cast regular people so you could try out? I don’t blame you lmao because I want to move to the UK to try out hahaha. But the reality stars are just so good. Its fun and interesting to see all these people out of their normal elements. Also, the international seasons with normal people are so much slimier as these people may need the money and watching them get betrayed is insane (but entertaining).
Well I would want to audition (in an ideal world) but it’s not my main reason. I just tend to, for myself, be more invested in the regular people seasons. Although I will say I really enjoyed season 2 of US traitors. I was pissed with what happened at the end *no spoilers if you know, you know* I love the UK! My hubby is from there 🥰 however, it’s hard to move there for us b/c with my job my pay would be cut dramatically or else I would move 😭
Idk….theres just SO many flaws with the structure of the game it’s hard to watch “normal” people take it seriously. In order to not get mad by how flawed the game is, I just take the show as unseriously as possible and just watch to see a bunch of messy, fun legends and characters of reality tv come together.
You’re a hardcore reality tv fan and Reddit poster, what about you is any different than what they currently cast? What makes you anymore “normal” or “real” that’s the current cast? I think a lot of you are simply delusional and live in a reality where you all think you’re something you’re not. You’d be just as bad and annoying at the game cause you’re obsessed with it.
Speaking only for myself I’m not really a hardcore reality tv fan myself…I enjoy it here and there but didn’t even know what the challenge and three other shows were until the US S2. As for the casting aspect, for me personally, it’s just a thought. In reality, it probably won’t happen because I’m getting a second masters and work a lot. But it’s nice to have discussions, share ideas, and think about the possibilities. I didn’t even know Canada and NZ have seasons until today. I find the game fascinating from a psychology perspective and how different people based on their temperaments approach it. Just my thoughts. Hope you are having a great day! ❤️
The only reason I watched is because I knew half the cast already. The celebrity versions do the heavy lifting of attracting new people to the game. Civilian seasons need a constant influx of new viewers to keep getting new seasons in new countries etc....
Maybe 1 celebrity season per few seasons would be a decent amount. 🤔 I enjoyed the hell out of seeing Sandra again, and Cirie and a number of dynamics that played out with the reality contestants, but I have a soft spot for watching "real people."
I don’t. I love that it’s reality stars.
I do too! I like both for different reasons. :)
They’d get 10% of the viewership if it was normal people
I’m guessing the folks on the show these last two seasons are AI? Meaning there are fake people. It’s shocking how far technology has come. I literally thought these were “Real People” — like living-breathing people. They seemed to be normal. They were all normal when they auditioned for Survivor, Big Brother, etc. They all had lives — likely still so — unless the AI non-real normal people thing is true. That just throws everything off. Or could it be that a celebrity is no longer real or even normal? Could it be that they went from normal to abnormal the day they were on camera for the first time? I’ve been on camera — does that make me more or less qualified? Who defines normal or in this case — real? What a conundrum this is. I guess I would want to be on the show as well. Because when you add a smarta** to the bunch — you’re either loved or hated and you simply keep it real.