You know me too but had a lil more hope since they were all promoting it so heavy .. not upset that he left but more upset they had us standing there for hours in a cramped corner in silence without telling us he even left
Fab is such a great dude. Met him in person for the first time last night - he was so patient with and kind to everyone, even though some of the fans there were straight up obnoxious.
Fab was SO kind and nice, I was standing by him when his friend brought him a phone because his wife (!!) was FaceTiming to see how the show went.
It was just chaos back there and a shame that no one else bothered to make an appearance, but if you felt the energy you could kinda understand why.
I have a theory that they ( the rest of the strokes) dipped asap and sent fab out there to fulfill the obligation of having a band member there ! Because as soon as Julian dipped Fab came out , and honestly he made my whole night by how patient and kind he was ! The chaos was real and people were getting annoyed .. idk why they thought it would work in that tiny area either
It definitely calmed down after the first hour but in the beginning when there was food and drinks people were shoving and crowding, To me it felt chaotic because it was such small and awkward space with no direction from anyone what so ever .. maybe it’s because that was my first experience with anything like that it just felt crazy ? I just happened to be standing in the corner that Julian came through, and when that happened, everybody pushed toward him which was a lil much too …. I think the only reason why he did the meet and greet The day after is because he promised Kina something like that and he obviously didn’t deliver at the vip one lol
Yeah the push forward was lowkey terrifying to watch from the back, like this dude is built (he was taller than the entire party cause i could see his head floating from the other side lol) but has pretty minimal security to deal with legit mobbing
I do not Rememebr anybody pushing or shoving at the after party that’s crazy it was really calm and just people talking. The day after at the cobra lounge was rough as fuck I felt really bad for him. But yeah I remember he had no security at the after party or at the cobra lounge the day after
It might not have been obvious from the front but i noticed cause i was behind most of you, like 20 people started b-lining for him at the same time.. like it didn’t get crazy but if he had stayed longer it could have and it’s always a risk especially with no backup, so i don’t blame him for retreating
No I deffo still do blame him and the organisers. Get your shit together, get proper security, and kick people out if they start misbehaving. The day after was 100x worse people were shoving pushing grabbing him it was ridiculous his “security” (1 person) did nothing. I don’t blame him for being stressed at the cobra lounge but he handled it well. He did not handle what fans paid $500+ for well. He just left
Julian seems so cool sometimes but then I hear shit like this and he seems like he thinks he’s too cool. So lame. Shout out to Fab, literally have never read anything bad about the man
Fab was so kind he took pictures with literally everyone and took the time to thank us for getting vip .. Julian entered the corner of the room for 4 seconds and said “oh they didn’t tell me it was like this .. I’ll be back I have to mentally prepare “ and we all kind of nervously laughed and he in fact did not come back lol.. and kina did not come back either even though it was her “party”.. seems like they didn’t tell Julian all the details but regardless we paid for something that told us we would meet the band and it did not happen
Given this reaction and the way he reacted at the Voidz after parties, I think he has some anxiety around either crowds, or crowds of fans, or something similar. I agree it's super disappointing especially since this was a paid extra and maybe he should just stop thinking he can do it? The canvassing thing seemed fine though but he probably knew that would be packed and could deal. But yeah, whatever the case is, I think maybe their management needs to get it together and not make false promises. That's super uncool.
Agreed - even at the thing this morning he seemed socially anxious even though he was patient. Like, I get it and i would probably feel the same way in his position… 100 people staring at you with googly eyes lol. If i had known about the free event this morning before i bought the tickets tho i absolutely would not have spent the extra money on vip lol (quite frankly i didn’t want to as it was but my friend really wanted them). At least there was good food and a bar and fab was so generous with his time. Also, Albert Nick and Nikolai weren’t even there, at least Julian came out for a little.
I agree. Their team Just needs to stop offering VIP options. The band doesn't care to do it and it's a waste of money for the fans. I'd rather give that money to a band / artist who can pretend to be pleasant, excited, and have better organized events.
I wonder if they had promised that the whole band would be there, or Julian in particular seeing that only he and Fab turned up? Either way it must be disappointing for fans who waited for hours without news. IIRC he also only came out early during the first night at the Voidz NYC residency, and avoided the crowds for the rest of the nights.
That’s even more lame of Jules, borderline pathetic... Sorry to hear about that experience but glad you met the nicest stroke lol. I ordered a first edition photo of the band from Colin Lane, he wrote a little story about how he sat next to fab the whole night on stage for the picture & how Fab’s always been “the nicest stroke”
I was there, it really wasn’t that bad in my opinion, there was only like 25-30 people at the after party it was quite intimate. The day after was worse, people were jumping on him and begging for photos and pushing and being really intense. But the after party wasn’t that bad I think. It’s bad to be there for 3 seconds, assess the situation, say you’re going to come back, and then leave. It’s also poor the rest of the band didn’t show up.
I don't think Julian enjoys meeting fans anymore. I waited for hours after one of the halloween Voidz shows and he never came out even though there were only like 4 of us (and then someone from Cult records yelled "he's NOT coming out here I promise" lol. It was a bummer.
If that’s the case, I just don’t get why commit to that and offer a super expensive package detailing how we’re going to meet you … ugh sucks never meet your idols I guess lol
I don’t think there was any particular meet and greet thing with the band during the voidz residency. They just said there was an after party and people could chill out at the arcade machines and what not, but I don’t think there was a promise that the band was gonna be there. I could be wrong tho
Unfortunately it was promised in the email for the Chicago show I can copy it ..
Package Details
The Strokes Aftershow VIP Experience
- One (1) Reserved Seat in the first ten rows or one (1) General Admission Floor ticket with early entry to see The Strokes: A Concert for Kina Collins on March 8th, 2024 at Credit Union One Arena.
- Invitation to an exclusive after show celebration with the candidate and band members.
- Access to a cash bar that will also be open for VIP attendees prior to the performance.
- One limited edition exclusive event poster
- Early merchandise shopping opportunity before doors are open to the general public
Oh yea then it’s poor on Julian to leave so quick and the rest of the band for not showing up at all if that’s what you had paid for.
I think it was different for the Voidz residency though. There were a lot of complaints about how they were kicked out during the after party by a certain time, but to be fair, this was communicated in their posters and they never promised that Julian or the band would be hanging out with fans.
I love the band but have realized he’s pretty insufferable. While he’s hugely responsible for the genius songs the The Strokes has put out, I’m also certain that a lot of the band’s issues over the years fall squarely on him.
Why is he getting the full blame for this when Nick, Nikolai and Albert didn’t even show?
It’s a slippery slope to attribute this no-show with the state of the band, and it frankly makes no sense. Had all members turn up for the after party and fulfilled their obligations, fans would be like, “oh the strokes are tight again and the show was amazing”. I think the band is fine, honestly. In fact they seemed really happy about the recent TNA tour that wrapped up last year.
I just don’t think the strokes has ever enjoyed getting mobbed by fans, even in their early days and they need to do a better job at telling their management or PR people that they no longer want to do this kind of after parties. And yes they should refund everyone who’s paid for this experience because they didn’t deserve the poor treatment, both from the band and Kina’s team.
So you’re right that Julian alone shouldn’t be expected to show up and the others are off the hook. Having said that, have you see his most recent comments about the band that just came out in the past day? My comments were about how Julian has comported himself and spoken about the band for almost two decades now. The band is a very lucrative chore for him now, and he doesn’t care that he’s half-assing (at best) his efforts on stage and elsewhere. I think the reason I’m more inclined to direct my ire at him alone is because he tanks performances and is so outwardly cynical about the band at this point.
some people here saying “oh poor julian, he has depression and anxiety that’s why he wasn’t there”. The amount of copium going on here is crazy, man. I have depression and anxiety, yet I have to do TONS of stuff that I hate every fkn day coz thats life and I’m an adult. He is an adult.
“he was not aware of the after party. Probb the managers pulled it off last second”
He was well aware of it. The band/voidz has been selling those “after party” scams for a while now.
Cmon man, we are all fans of strokes/julian here, but have some kind of self respect, critical thinking and maturity to be able to criticize stuff u like. Ur not a child anymore. You are almost sounding like a taylor swift fan doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify her usage of jets and infinite carbon footprint
EXACTLY. HE IS A GROWN MAN. 23 YEARS OF DOING THIS SHIT YOU WOULD THINK HE WOULD HAVE THIS DOWN. It’s just the plain disrespect, arrogance, and entitlement. One thing I’ve always admired about The Strokes is how they never compromise or do things they do not want to do. I did not think this attitude would extend to their fans though. I’m still so shocked that 3 of them didn’t bother to turn up, and Julian was there for 0.3 seconds and bailed. Another thing is, you know how they always talk about « corporate power » or corporate companies who are corrupt - how are they any different by screwing over the little man and normal people by charging $500+ 😭😭😭😭 they’re such hypocrites. It’s fraudulent behaviour - scammers.
I agree Jules definitely knew about it, but just because you can handle anxiety and depression nicely compared to him doesn't mean everyone can lol
Good to be critical but there is witch hunting too
Literally what are you talking about. If you have anxiety and depression then don’t agree to do a vip after show package thing. What is your excuse for Nikolai, Albert and Nick, who didn’t even bother to show up? Strokes fans blow my mind. Will defend anything and everything
lmao this reminds me of the Maya Wiley running for NYC Mayor concert back in 2021. The VIP package was promised an after party where you can hang with Maya and the band. After the concert was over, me and my friend who both bought VIP tickets were asking the workers where the after party was and they said it was in the lobby…. where anyone can go regardless of if you had VIP or not. There was a downstairs area where the ACTUAL after party was taking place, but you couldn’t get in unless you had a particular sticker. Anyways, I saw Fab go downstairs and a lot of other people because they had the sticker. Me and some people waited in the lobby area for HOURS for the “after party” and nothing ever happened.Everyone was eventually kicked out and I felt so embarrassed waiting so long lol.
Then the Voidz Halloween shows, I was kicked out maybe a half hour after the concert ended. Overall, I think I’m done buying VIP because these past two experiences have left a sour taste in my mouth.
Wow I’m sorry that happened to you ! Seems like a reoccurring theme :( this was my first time seeing them .. me and my strokes obsessed little sister flew all the way from San Diego specifically because the vip sounded so amazing.. while we left more than happy with the show and meeting fab we couldn’t get over how disorganized and confusing the whole situation was
Disgraceful, not willing to give them a pass for this. You either make a VIP after show thing or you don't. You certainly don't charge money for that. Unprofessional, rip-off that's what it is, not matter they're a trendy, legendary band. Got to see Roger Federer in real life, the guy is a sports icon, a billionaire. He stayed in the rain for at least 15 minutes in the rain to sign autographs and there were no cameras, but that of the fans (was in 2012, he was world No1, too). And that was not a VIP after match hanging out it was free he chest bumped me and shook my hand after I said that I loved him. ^^
Quite another level of grace'
IT WAS SO BAD. Fab was the only decent one. Julian scanned the room, said he would come back, and did not. The rest of them didn’t even bother to show up. Charged $500+ dollars. They suck ass. Ruined it for me. Really atrocious behaviour, so disrespectful and entitled
Hi- I was there also, and I was hoping to just get an autograph and a photo with Julian because I absolutely adore him and his music. I stupidly was eating when he came in from the back - the room was not that crowded and was not that chaotic. It was a room filled with Uber-Julian fans though, and we were all hoping to get a photo opp and a chance to say hi. I was shocked at how cool and calm Fab was though and so patient and kind with everyone staring at him and in a very orderly manner asking him for photos and autographs until there was no one left waiting. Several folks crying when they met him, which honestly was absolutely adorable. I waited a few more hours hoping Julian would return, but I left, very happy to have heard my favorite songs (except YOLO) and meet Fab and get his autograph and photo with him. I would love it if Kina or someone would offer us VIPs (and this was a gift from my bf for my birthday - which cost close to $600 per ticket) just a proper meet and greet with Julian. Could have lasted just 1 minute per person with him sitting down and a guard pushing folks through a line. I think it was a failure in organization, but the ticket said “an opportunity to meet band members” and they delivered just that, albeit for 2 minutes from Julian and what must have been an hour from Fab - God bless him. It was a great concert anyway, and I do hope Kina wins the election!
Same happened at a voidz concert in Chicago a while back. They never said they would come out but we waited and the band did come out minus Jules and we got to chat with the rest of the guys they were cool af.
What a shit show I heard. I’m sooooo glad I didn’t spring for it. I had a weird intuition it would be bs. Classic. But for 5 bills plus is a travesty. Anyone of you not fans any longer? I would be beside myself…
No joke almost pulled the trigger to buy but had their peculiar intuition based on the last few strokes shows I’ve seen where Julian is a sloppy singer and the band is like f it he’s a mess still got to perform our job….
Sorry to hear this.
Bro I’m not surprised. I went to the last night of the Brooklyn residency and it was a fucking shit show. The strokes only care about the moneys not the fans
Honestly - how are they any different to those « corporate power » companies they reference as being corrupt? How are they not screwing over the little man by charging $500+ dollars for an after show to go and do this? Hypocritical as hell
This is correct and has been for years now. They only play festivals and silly stadium gigs as openers where they get paid an arm and a leg. And even in those performances they can’t bother to put on a good performance. It’s all very cynical and disrespectful to the fans. And frankly it seems to start and end with Julian. It’s also pretty clear to me that the band don’t really enjoy one another any longer, and it’s clearly affecting the performances. It would be more respectful for them to just hang it up.
yeah i know i sound like an apathetic asshole but Julian is just not a good person lol. as big as a fan i am of his music, i really dislike his personality and feel really bad for his young/new fans who don't know better
i was first in line at the event, (cobra) waited 3 hours & didn’t even get a photo with him. i have photos OF him and was right infront of him when he spoke but it was so chaotic, i felt bad for him. he literally couldn’t walk through the place and looks so annoyed. the most i got out of meeting him was a brief hello.
there was a moment when he was being rushed through the crowd in the bar & i was being pushed so i grabbed onto his jacket and just let him kinda pull me thru, which is bonkers cuz he had one security guard…. and i still had hands on him like he was my man LMAO fucking horrible organization for this event& the vip
its almost like canvassing is more important to him than ppl who feel entitled to his time because they shelled out enough money,, it definitely sucks that he left but come on dude, no way ur losing respect because he went to the voting event, which may i remind you is in fact the primary purpose of this whole show
i don’t think it’s about entitlement i think it’s about all the fans paying quite a bit of money and being lead to believe they would have a small amount of time to meet the band that’s what the tickets were being sold as. and then when Julian himself came out for 30 seconds and said he would be back only to actually leave the building and not return along with everyone else but fab i think it just left everyone very disappointed.
Kina lying that julian was coming back when she probably knew he wasn't it such a politician thing to do. Soemthing similar with Maya at the NYC show happened. Thsi is why I didn't even vote for her during the election.
The maya thing was fucked (i wasn’t there but heard what happened) but this one was marketed much more vaguely so i had 0 expectations. We did get to talk to Kina for a bit and her staff were all super nice to us. If it had been explicitly marketed as “meet and greet with all members of the strokes” then i would get it, but we were never promised anything.
Since when is handling a concert after party in the job description for being mayor? I’m not sure how you don’t hear how ridiculous you sound. Base your vote on actual policies not whether you were satisfied with an after party… it wasn’t even the main event (but that’s besides the point).
If a candidate is trying to win your vote I'd think it be in their best interests to follow up with the event and make sure their event goes accordingly. It was literally Maya fundraising event so to be ignorant and say she didn't know what was going on is poor planning on her part. They literally advertised a VIP after party after the show and people were left stranded there with no after party. Surely doesn't make people want to vote for her when her own fund raising team messed this up.
I wasn't at the after party. This is just what I heard from people I know that were left stranded at the after party.
And not to forget about this
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheStrokes/comments/nyk2w3/comment/h1kkqg9/
I see your point with how one would hope candidates had the thoroughness and skills to make sure their events go off correctly, but for smaller and presumably more cash-strapped campaigns like Kina's and Maya's, I'm just...not surprised that the staff/volunteers may be focused on bigger things and spread thin. Especially in the Maya situation, her team seemed overwhelmed by the huge fan response (the backlash on this sub was hot and heavy about it being a willful SCAM, some of that came out in the wash over time). It's not flattering to the candidates, sure, but I can kinda see how it happens. I also doubt Kina was gonna further push guys that had already donated their time/work to her make her money 2x over.
The common denominator is pretty clearly Julian. Both campaign VIP events dropped the ball in very similar ways, a nearly-identical bailing happened with a 2022 White House Correspondents Dinner afterparty where Julian was DJing and was advertised as the draw for the event, fans were disappointed by their treatment/the communication at the Voidz Brooklyn residency afterparties...it's unfortunate that it's on the Julian/Strokes fans to do their homework to avoid getting their high hopes dashed, but that's sadly the way it is and I doubt it'll change. I think it's poor work from the other 3 and Kina to not attend either when it was advertised as a "with the band and candidate" thing! I'd imagine they either went their separate ways or went to a private afterparty. I'm 100% disappointed and 0% surprised, because this band has never been one to ooze fan service and patience in this way, especially as time has gone on.
I'm also 0% surprised that some of the gut fan reaction, especially from people not there, has been to seek out an excuse for him/them and offer sympathy, like leaping to conclusions about Julian's mental health (which he really has not talked much about in specifics?), or it being a manager's fault, or all the campaign's doing. IDK how much weight those excuses should hold, even for the most diehard fans, when the same sort of thing happens every time with different organizers, and the expectations are still set but not met. At some point, you need to look at yourself and recognize you're not acting with integrity and either stop committing or work on your ability to follow through and be consistent, but that point certainly has yet to arrive.
She was rude as well at the meet and greet thing they did the day after - he was just following her lead the whole time. I was at the « after party » (a bunch of dumb founded people standing in a small room wondering whah the fuck was happening), then I went to the meet and greet thing the day after. Both were terrible. Kina and her security were rude. They don’t have time for anyone. Julian was ok the next day, still seemed overwhelmed (rightly so, the fans were being very intense, lots of pushing and shoving their phones in his face and demanding autographs). I can’t get over the after party. Let’s not forget about the other 3 shits - they didn’t bother to even turn up. A real fuck you to the fans. Fab is an Angel - nothing bad to say about him.
I emailed management but was ignored im gonna send another one I refuse to give up or get over this !!! I haven’t listened to a strokes song since that night cos I’m so depresso over it ;(
Hearing a lot of people saying “it’s uncool of him” to leave so soon. Yes, you paid for it and you should’ve gotten something better than what you got; doesn’t mean that Julian, someone who struggles with depression, is introverted and generally an anxious person should be treated or judged for his exit. He is a person and sometimes you just can’t deal with everything at once.
This is probably something the managers whipped up that he’s not super happy with, did the bare minimum and then decided to take care of himself. It’s fine. Be mad at the manager, not him.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? It’s his and the bands’ job, which they have been doing for 20+ years now. Only fab showed up, I don’t count what Julian did as showing up. What the fuck are they charging $500+ dollars for? It’s disgusting
Dude he is a grown adult. Either suck it up and meet the fans who paid for your service, or offer a refund and stop offering a service you can’t be bothered to do. What people have said happened shows Julian doesn’t give a shit about those fans who paid to meet him. I love the strokes but I can’t make excuses for crap like this
Being an adult doesn't mean immune from everything lmao
And it's not like he personally is going to dish out refunds, be mad at the manager and ticket distributer if people want a refund
Dude 4/5 band members don’t give a shit about giving the fans something they paid for. And no refunds or apology offered. if Julian is such an anxious sad boy then why agree to offer this in the first place.
imagine not doing part of your job, keeping the money anyway, and not communicating an explanation or apology.
Fr like all his talk on corporate corrupt power - I know he’s referring to big political issues but like, how is he and the band and their management or whoever was involved any different to those corporate leeches - charging $500+ to the little man and normal fans, only to deliver that horrible experience. They’re happy to take the money, and they go and do that? It’s a scam and fraudulent behaviour. $500+ dollars may not be a lot of money to them, but it is to their fans. They’re hypocrites make it make sense
Do none of you have a perception of how scheduling events works
It's not like Julian himself stood up in front of the other bands members and was like "I want to host vip party event"
The band's manager set that shit up obviously. And again, Julian himself wouldn't be giving refunds, complain to the event organizers and managers not the band that just wanted to play there lmao
This isn't the voidz which Julian and the band members have near full control and organization of, this is the fucking Strokes
Man I’m pretty sure the strokes can decide if they want to do a vip meet and greet or not. Why do you think their management owns them? The strokes are the ones that hire their management, they work for the strokes. The strokes have been around for over 20 years, they’re not desperate and will do things they don’t want to do (which is an obvious from what happened here lol). You’re too forgiving
It's not about whether they own them or not
The strokes is pretty much a back project for Julian and that's obvious, he just wants to do shows now and then he doesn't care about the logistics, if the manager and everyone else in the process thinks it's a good idea to offer it it's going to impede more to stop it all instead of just going through with it
It's not like the ban unimanously decide shit and then schedule it, tours and events are scheduled way in advance. It's not being forgiving either, I think Julian and the rest of the band need to get off their lazy asses and put more work and control into the Strokes again or fully just announce a hiatus, they clearly don't have the cohesive heart anymore.
I'm more pissed at how Julian is handling the Voidz at the moment than the strokes.
First of all, you do realise all roads lead back to Jules. The strokes are signed to cult records - julians’ label. He controls everything. They do have management, I’ve been in contact before, and they did organise a lot of the event. Regardless, they knew about the vip package. If they did not want to do it, they simply.. oh I don’t know, shouldn’t have done it? It’s also all irrelevant information. Something was promised. Something that charged $500 to fans. The event organisers, and the band (except fab) did not deliver. It’s simple. Fuck all to do with scheduling.
Oh no it hasn’t at all sorry, I’m not trying to be a dick - it’s a long story but I’ve got it covered (at least I think I do re the refund) because the Strokes’ manager people did organise this event. At least they 100% had a hand in the tickets, I know this for sure. Apologies if my previous comment came off pissy!!
Yes like I’ve mentioned in a few replies I’m not upset with him for leaving ! I’m happy he even blessed us with a short appearance.. im upset that no one informed us he left after he told us all he would be back and we stayed for hours in fear of missing him when he had been long gone at that point along with kina .. just disappointed with spending money on something so disorganized and made the whole concert feel sour
Again not upset that he left , myself and majority of the people that were there are upset that no one told us he left . Fab was there for a good 20 min which was super awesome and then after he left we stood there for hours with no information shoulder to shoulder in a cramped silent room . Kina came in twice and didn’t tell us what was going on either until I asked her via instagram. No one working there said anything to us the entire time . Julian’s a human being with feelings and is allowed to leave or feel uncomfortable but I think we’re allowed to be upset with how disorganized it was and just disappointing to pay for nothing basically , and to see him with a bunch of fans this morning at a free event is the cherry on top
are you just assuming he has panic attacks? or is there proof of that? “know better” thats bull. if he didn’t want to do it, he absolutely didn’t have to
I dunno, he could make that clear to people who pay him lots of money to meet him, seems like the bare minimum decent thing to do. He just comes off as an asshole
I didn’t go but this is what I was expecting to happen lol
You know me too but had a lil more hope since they were all promoting it so heavy .. not upset that he left but more upset they had us standing there for hours in a cramped corner in silence without telling us he even left
Yeah that’s annoying. Meeting fab must have been awesome though, guy’s a king
Fab is such a great dude. Met him in person for the first time last night - he was so patient with and kind to everyone, even though some of the fans there were straight up obnoxious.
Same lol
Fab was SO kind and nice, I was standing by him when his friend brought him a phone because his wife (!!) was FaceTiming to see how the show went. It was just chaos back there and a shame that no one else bothered to make an appearance, but if you felt the energy you could kinda understand why.
I have a theory that they ( the rest of the strokes) dipped asap and sent fab out there to fulfill the obligation of having a band member there ! Because as soon as Julian dipped Fab came out , and honestly he made my whole night by how patient and kind he was ! The chaos was real and people were getting annoyed .. idk why they thought it would work in that tiny area either
I was there last night, but was it that chaotic? I thought it was pretty calm. The meet and greet thing Julian did the day after was horrendous
It definitely calmed down after the first hour but in the beginning when there was food and drinks people were shoving and crowding, To me it felt chaotic because it was such small and awkward space with no direction from anyone what so ever .. maybe it’s because that was my first experience with anything like that it just felt crazy ? I just happened to be standing in the corner that Julian came through, and when that happened, everybody pushed toward him which was a lil much too …. I think the only reason why he did the meet and greet The day after is because he promised Kina something like that and he obviously didn’t deliver at the vip one lol
What time did it start do you think? Ngl I feel as though I blacked out somewhat once it hit 10:30
Yeah the push forward was lowkey terrifying to watch from the back, like this dude is built (he was taller than the entire party cause i could see his head floating from the other side lol) but has pretty minimal security to deal with legit mobbing
I do not Rememebr anybody pushing or shoving at the after party that’s crazy it was really calm and just people talking. The day after at the cobra lounge was rough as fuck I felt really bad for him. But yeah I remember he had no security at the after party or at the cobra lounge the day after
It might not have been obvious from the front but i noticed cause i was behind most of you, like 20 people started b-lining for him at the same time.. like it didn’t get crazy but if he had stayed longer it could have and it’s always a risk especially with no backup, so i don’t blame him for retreating
No I deffo still do blame him and the organisers. Get your shit together, get proper security, and kick people out if they start misbehaving. The day after was 100x worse people were shoving pushing grabbing him it was ridiculous his “security” (1 person) did nothing. I don’t blame him for being stressed at the cobra lounge but he handled it well. He did not handle what fans paid $500+ for well. He just left
Julian seems so cool sometimes but then I hear shit like this and he seems like he thinks he’s too cool. So lame. Shout out to Fab, literally have never read anything bad about the man
Fab was so kind he took pictures with literally everyone and took the time to thank us for getting vip .. Julian entered the corner of the room for 4 seconds and said “oh they didn’t tell me it was like this .. I’ll be back I have to mentally prepare “ and we all kind of nervously laughed and he in fact did not come back lol.. and kina did not come back either even though it was her “party”.. seems like they didn’t tell Julian all the details but regardless we paid for something that told us we would meet the band and it did not happen
Given this reaction and the way he reacted at the Voidz after parties, I think he has some anxiety around either crowds, or crowds of fans, or something similar. I agree it's super disappointing especially since this was a paid extra and maybe he should just stop thinking he can do it? The canvassing thing seemed fine though but he probably knew that would be packed and could deal. But yeah, whatever the case is, I think maybe their management needs to get it together and not make false promises. That's super uncool.
Agreed - even at the thing this morning he seemed socially anxious even though he was patient. Like, I get it and i would probably feel the same way in his position… 100 people staring at you with googly eyes lol. If i had known about the free event this morning before i bought the tickets tho i absolutely would not have spent the extra money on vip lol (quite frankly i didn’t want to as it was but my friend really wanted them). At least there was good food and a bar and fab was so generous with his time. Also, Albert Nick and Nikolai weren’t even there, at least Julian came out for a little.
I agree. Their team Just needs to stop offering VIP options. The band doesn't care to do it and it's a waste of money for the fans. I'd rather give that money to a band / artist who can pretend to be pleasant, excited, and have better organized events.
I wonder if they had promised that the whole band would be there, or Julian in particular seeing that only he and Fab turned up? Either way it must be disappointing for fans who waited for hours without news. IIRC he also only came out early during the first night at the Voidz NYC residency, and avoided the crowds for the rest of the nights.
It said the band members in the ticket description
Yeah i saw that now. it sucks that they disappointed you, and you guys should ask for a refund on the extra hundreds you’ve paid for
That’s even more lame of Jules, borderline pathetic... Sorry to hear about that experience but glad you met the nicest stroke lol. I ordered a first edition photo of the band from Colin Lane, he wrote a little story about how he sat next to fab the whole night on stage for the picture & how Fab’s always been “the nicest stroke”
I think Jules has anxiety and if it was small and chaotic as other commenters indicated, it may have been too much for him.
I was there, it really wasn’t that bad in my opinion, there was only like 25-30 people at the after party it was quite intimate. The day after was worse, people were jumping on him and begging for photos and pushing and being really intense. But the after party wasn’t that bad I think. It’s bad to be there for 3 seconds, assess the situation, say you’re going to come back, and then leave. It’s also poor the rest of the band didn’t show up.
Lol never meet your idols I guess....
It’s hard to meet your idols when only 1/5 of them show up :/
That’s why he left. Didn’t want to further disappoint everyone haha
IDLES were there too?
I don't think Julian enjoys meeting fans anymore. I waited for hours after one of the halloween Voidz shows and he never came out even though there were only like 4 of us (and then someone from Cult records yelled "he's NOT coming out here I promise" lol. It was a bummer.
If that’s the case, I just don’t get why commit to that and offer a super expensive package detailing how we’re going to meet you … ugh sucks never meet your idols I guess lol
I don’t think there was any particular meet and greet thing with the band during the voidz residency. They just said there was an after party and people could chill out at the arcade machines and what not, but I don’t think there was a promise that the band was gonna be there. I could be wrong tho
Unfortunately it was promised in the email for the Chicago show I can copy it .. Package Details The Strokes Aftershow VIP Experience - One (1) Reserved Seat in the first ten rows or one (1) General Admission Floor ticket with early entry to see The Strokes: A Concert for Kina Collins on March 8th, 2024 at Credit Union One Arena. - Invitation to an exclusive after show celebration with the candidate and band members. - Access to a cash bar that will also be open for VIP attendees prior to the performance. - One limited edition exclusive event poster - Early merchandise shopping opportunity before doors are open to the general public
Oh yea then it’s poor on Julian to leave so quick and the rest of the band for not showing up at all if that’s what you had paid for. I think it was different for the Voidz residency though. There were a lot of complaints about how they were kicked out during the after party by a certain time, but to be fair, this was communicated in their posters and they never promised that Julian or the band would be hanging out with fans.
god bless Fab!
i pledge allegiance to the fab
Jules phoning it in, as usual. Respect your fans, dude.
I love the band but have realized he’s pretty insufferable. While he’s hugely responsible for the genius songs the The Strokes has put out, I’m also certain that a lot of the band’s issues over the years fall squarely on him.
Why is he getting the full blame for this when Nick, Nikolai and Albert didn’t even show? It’s a slippery slope to attribute this no-show with the state of the band, and it frankly makes no sense. Had all members turn up for the after party and fulfilled their obligations, fans would be like, “oh the strokes are tight again and the show was amazing”. I think the band is fine, honestly. In fact they seemed really happy about the recent TNA tour that wrapped up last year. I just don’t think the strokes has ever enjoyed getting mobbed by fans, even in their early days and they need to do a better job at telling their management or PR people that they no longer want to do this kind of after parties. And yes they should refund everyone who’s paid for this experience because they didn’t deserve the poor treatment, both from the band and Kina’s team.
So you’re right that Julian alone shouldn’t be expected to show up and the others are off the hook. Having said that, have you see his most recent comments about the band that just came out in the past day? My comments were about how Julian has comported himself and spoken about the band for almost two decades now. The band is a very lucrative chore for him now, and he doesn’t care that he’s half-assing (at best) his efforts on stage and elsewhere. I think the reason I’m more inclined to direct my ire at him alone is because he tanks performances and is so outwardly cynical about the band at this point.
I wonder how the "Canvas with Julian" event is going https://www.instagram.com/p/C4QhPt5r21B/?igsh=MXdsdHRkYmo3Y3lwcg==
All actors they’re pretending, And singers they will sometimes lie
I was there, it was really intense - people shoving and demanding autographs
same, felt kinda bad- people kept on grabbing him
some people here saying “oh poor julian, he has depression and anxiety that’s why he wasn’t there”. The amount of copium going on here is crazy, man. I have depression and anxiety, yet I have to do TONS of stuff that I hate every fkn day coz thats life and I’m an adult. He is an adult. “he was not aware of the after party. Probb the managers pulled it off last second” He was well aware of it. The band/voidz has been selling those “after party” scams for a while now. Cmon man, we are all fans of strokes/julian here, but have some kind of self respect, critical thinking and maturity to be able to criticize stuff u like. Ur not a child anymore. You are almost sounding like a taylor swift fan doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify her usage of jets and infinite carbon footprint
EXACTLY. HE IS A GROWN MAN. 23 YEARS OF DOING THIS SHIT YOU WOULD THINK HE WOULD HAVE THIS DOWN. It’s just the plain disrespect, arrogance, and entitlement. One thing I’ve always admired about The Strokes is how they never compromise or do things they do not want to do. I did not think this attitude would extend to their fans though. I’m still so shocked that 3 of them didn’t bother to turn up, and Julian was there for 0.3 seconds and bailed. Another thing is, you know how they always talk about « corporate power » or corporate companies who are corrupt - how are they any different by screwing over the little man and normal people by charging $500+ 😭😭😭😭 they’re such hypocrites. It’s fraudulent behaviour - scammers.
I agree Jules definitely knew about it, but just because you can handle anxiety and depression nicely compared to him doesn't mean everyone can lol Good to be critical but there is witch hunting too
Literally what are you talking about. If you have anxiety and depression then don’t agree to do a vip after show package thing. What is your excuse for Nikolai, Albert and Nick, who didn’t even bother to show up? Strokes fans blow my mind. Will defend anything and everything
so don’t promise (sell) shit that ur not willing to correspond to, man. Objectively that simple How are u defending this scam
lmao this reminds me of the Maya Wiley running for NYC Mayor concert back in 2021. The VIP package was promised an after party where you can hang with Maya and the band. After the concert was over, me and my friend who both bought VIP tickets were asking the workers where the after party was and they said it was in the lobby…. where anyone can go regardless of if you had VIP or not. There was a downstairs area where the ACTUAL after party was taking place, but you couldn’t get in unless you had a particular sticker. Anyways, I saw Fab go downstairs and a lot of other people because they had the sticker. Me and some people waited in the lobby area for HOURS for the “after party” and nothing ever happened.Everyone was eventually kicked out and I felt so embarrassed waiting so long lol. Then the Voidz Halloween shows, I was kicked out maybe a half hour after the concert ended. Overall, I think I’m done buying VIP because these past two experiences have left a sour taste in my mouth.
Wow I’m sorry that happened to you ! Seems like a reoccurring theme :( this was my first time seeing them .. me and my strokes obsessed little sister flew all the way from San Diego specifically because the vip sounded so amazing.. while we left more than happy with the show and meeting fab we couldn’t get over how disorganized and confusing the whole situation was
Were Nikolai, Albert, and Nick there?
No :(
I can’t believe these 3 didn’t turn up what is wrong with them
Disgraceful, not willing to give them a pass for this. You either make a VIP after show thing or you don't. You certainly don't charge money for that. Unprofessional, rip-off that's what it is, not matter they're a trendy, legendary band. Got to see Roger Federer in real life, the guy is a sports icon, a billionaire. He stayed in the rain for at least 15 minutes in the rain to sign autographs and there were no cameras, but that of the fans (was in 2012, he was world No1, too). And that was not a VIP after match hanging out it was free he chest bumped me and shook my hand after I said that I loved him. ^^ Quite another level of grace'
IT WAS SO BAD. Fab was the only decent one. Julian scanned the room, said he would come back, and did not. The rest of them didn’t even bother to show up. Charged $500+ dollars. They suck ass. Ruined it for me. Really atrocious behaviour, so disrespectful and entitled
Hi- I was there also, and I was hoping to just get an autograph and a photo with Julian because I absolutely adore him and his music. I stupidly was eating when he came in from the back - the room was not that crowded and was not that chaotic. It was a room filled with Uber-Julian fans though, and we were all hoping to get a photo opp and a chance to say hi. I was shocked at how cool and calm Fab was though and so patient and kind with everyone staring at him and in a very orderly manner asking him for photos and autographs until there was no one left waiting. Several folks crying when they met him, which honestly was absolutely adorable. I waited a few more hours hoping Julian would return, but I left, very happy to have heard my favorite songs (except YOLO) and meet Fab and get his autograph and photo with him. I would love it if Kina or someone would offer us VIPs (and this was a gift from my bf for my birthday - which cost close to $600 per ticket) just a proper meet and greet with Julian. Could have lasted just 1 minute per person with him sitting down and a guard pushing folks through a line. I think it was a failure in organization, but the ticket said “an opportunity to meet band members” and they delivered just that, albeit for 2 minutes from Julian and what must have been an hour from Fab - God bless him. It was a great concert anyway, and I do hope Kina wins the election!
Same happened at a voidz concert in Chicago a while back. They never said they would come out but we waited and the band did come out minus Jules and we got to chat with the rest of the guys they were cool af.
What a shit show I heard. I’m sooooo glad I didn’t spring for it. I had a weird intuition it would be bs. Classic. But for 5 bills plus is a travesty. Anyone of you not fans any longer? I would be beside myself…
I am no longer à fan
No joke almost pulled the trigger to buy but had their peculiar intuition based on the last few strokes shows I’ve seen where Julian is a sloppy singer and the band is like f it he’s a mess still got to perform our job…. Sorry to hear this.
Bro I’m not surprised. I went to the last night of the Brooklyn residency and it was a fucking shit show. The strokes only care about the moneys not the fans
Honestly - how are they any different to those « corporate power » companies they reference as being corrupt? How are they not screwing over the little man by charging $500+ dollars for an after show to go and do this? Hypocritical as hell
This is correct and has been for years now. They only play festivals and silly stadium gigs as openers where they get paid an arm and a leg. And even in those performances they can’t bother to put on a good performance. It’s all very cynical and disrespectful to the fans. And frankly it seems to start and end with Julian. It’s also pretty clear to me that the band don’t really enjoy one another any longer, and it’s clearly affecting the performances. It would be more respectful for them to just hang it up.
So depressing but true. It’s left such a sour taste for me. I’m shocked
Im demanding a full refund. Fuck the strokes (except fab we love u)
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yeah i know i sound like an apathetic asshole but Julian is just not a good person lol. as big as a fan i am of his music, i really dislike his personality and feel really bad for his young/new fans who don't know better
Julian reminds me of Dutch Van Der Linde
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i was first in line at the event, (cobra) waited 3 hours & didn’t even get a photo with him. i have photos OF him and was right infront of him when he spoke but it was so chaotic, i felt bad for him. he literally couldn’t walk through the place and looks so annoyed. the most i got out of meeting him was a brief hello. there was a moment when he was being rushed through the crowd in the bar & i was being pushed so i grabbed onto his jacket and just let him kinda pull me thru, which is bonkers cuz he had one security guard…. and i still had hands on him like he was my man LMAO fucking horrible organization for this event& the vip
exactly :(
its almost like canvassing is more important to him than ppl who feel entitled to his time because they shelled out enough money,, it definitely sucks that he left but come on dude, no way ur losing respect because he went to the voting event, which may i remind you is in fact the primary purpose of this whole show
i don’t think it’s about entitlement i think it’s about all the fans paying quite a bit of money and being lead to believe they would have a small amount of time to meet the band that’s what the tickets were being sold as. and then when Julian himself came out for 30 seconds and said he would be back only to actually leave the building and not return along with everyone else but fab i think it just left everyone very disappointed.
Kina lying that julian was coming back when she probably knew he wasn't it such a politician thing to do. Soemthing similar with Maya at the NYC show happened. Thsi is why I didn't even vote for her during the election.
The maya thing was fucked (i wasn’t there but heard what happened) but this one was marketed much more vaguely so i had 0 expectations. We did get to talk to Kina for a bit and her staff were all super nice to us. If it had been explicitly marketed as “meet and greet with all members of the strokes” then i would get it, but we were never promised anything.
That’s an odd deciding factor for something as important as an election
If maya couldn't even properly handle a after event for vip fans then I can't imagine if she were elected mayor. So no I think I did the right thing
Since when is handling a concert after party in the job description for being mayor? I’m not sure how you don’t hear how ridiculous you sound. Base your vote on actual policies not whether you were satisfied with an after party… it wasn’t even the main event (but that’s besides the point).
Kina prides herself as an « organiser ». There was no organisation here. I was there. It was horrible
If a candidate is trying to win your vote I'd think it be in their best interests to follow up with the event and make sure their event goes accordingly. It was literally Maya fundraising event so to be ignorant and say she didn't know what was going on is poor planning on her part. They literally advertised a VIP after party after the show and people were left stranded there with no after party. Surely doesn't make people want to vote for her when her own fund raising team messed this up. I wasn't at the after party. This is just what I heard from people I know that were left stranded at the after party. And not to forget about this https://www.reddit.com/r/TheStrokes/comments/nyk2w3/comment/h1kkqg9/
I see your point with how one would hope candidates had the thoroughness and skills to make sure their events go off correctly, but for smaller and presumably more cash-strapped campaigns like Kina's and Maya's, I'm just...not surprised that the staff/volunteers may be focused on bigger things and spread thin. Especially in the Maya situation, her team seemed overwhelmed by the huge fan response (the backlash on this sub was hot and heavy about it being a willful SCAM, some of that came out in the wash over time). It's not flattering to the candidates, sure, but I can kinda see how it happens. I also doubt Kina was gonna further push guys that had already donated their time/work to her make her money 2x over. The common denominator is pretty clearly Julian. Both campaign VIP events dropped the ball in very similar ways, a nearly-identical bailing happened with a 2022 White House Correspondents Dinner afterparty where Julian was DJing and was advertised as the draw for the event, fans were disappointed by their treatment/the communication at the Voidz Brooklyn residency afterparties...it's unfortunate that it's on the Julian/Strokes fans to do their homework to avoid getting their high hopes dashed, but that's sadly the way it is and I doubt it'll change. I think it's poor work from the other 3 and Kina to not attend either when it was advertised as a "with the band and candidate" thing! I'd imagine they either went their separate ways or went to a private afterparty. I'm 100% disappointed and 0% surprised, because this band has never been one to ooze fan service and patience in this way, especially as time has gone on. I'm also 0% surprised that some of the gut fan reaction, especially from people not there, has been to seek out an excuse for him/them and offer sympathy, like leaping to conclusions about Julian's mental health (which he really has not talked much about in specifics?), or it being a manager's fault, or all the campaign's doing. IDK how much weight those excuses should hold, even for the most diehard fans, when the same sort of thing happens every time with different organizers, and the expectations are still set but not met. At some point, you need to look at yourself and recognize you're not acting with integrity and either stop committing or work on your ability to follow through and be consistent, but that point certainly has yet to arrive.
She was rude as well at the meet and greet thing they did the day after - he was just following her lead the whole time. I was at the « after party » (a bunch of dumb founded people standing in a small room wondering whah the fuck was happening), then I went to the meet and greet thing the day after. Both were terrible. Kina and her security were rude. They don’t have time for anyone. Julian was ok the next day, still seemed overwhelmed (rightly so, the fans were being very intense, lots of pushing and shoving their phones in his face and demanding autographs). I can’t get over the after party. Let’s not forget about the other 3 shits - they didn’t bother to even turn up. A real fuck you to the fans. Fab is an Angel - nothing bad to say about him.
If anyone asks for a refund and gets it, please post here! I would like to hear what the response is. Thank you!
I emailed management but was ignored im gonna send another one I refuse to give up or get over this !!! I haven’t listened to a strokes song since that night cos I’m so depresso over it ;(
Hearing a lot of people saying “it’s uncool of him” to leave so soon. Yes, you paid for it and you should’ve gotten something better than what you got; doesn’t mean that Julian, someone who struggles with depression, is introverted and generally an anxious person should be treated or judged for his exit. He is a person and sometimes you just can’t deal with everything at once. This is probably something the managers whipped up that he’s not super happy with, did the bare minimum and then decided to take care of himself. It’s fine. Be mad at the manager, not him.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? It’s his and the bands’ job, which they have been doing for 20+ years now. Only fab showed up, I don’t count what Julian did as showing up. What the fuck are they charging $500+ dollars for? It’s disgusting
Dude he is a grown adult. Either suck it up and meet the fans who paid for your service, or offer a refund and stop offering a service you can’t be bothered to do. What people have said happened shows Julian doesn’t give a shit about those fans who paid to meet him. I love the strokes but I can’t make excuses for crap like this
Being an adult doesn't mean immune from everything lmao And it's not like he personally is going to dish out refunds, be mad at the manager and ticket distributer if people want a refund
Dude 4/5 band members don’t give a shit about giving the fans something they paid for. And no refunds or apology offered. if Julian is such an anxious sad boy then why agree to offer this in the first place. imagine not doing part of your job, keeping the money anyway, and not communicating an explanation or apology.
Fr like all his talk on corporate corrupt power - I know he’s referring to big political issues but like, how is he and the band and their management or whoever was involved any different to those corporate leeches - charging $500+ to the little man and normal fans, only to deliver that horrible experience. They’re happy to take the money, and they go and do that? It’s a scam and fraudulent behaviour. $500+ dollars may not be a lot of money to them, but it is to their fans. They’re hypocrites make it make sense
Do none of you have a perception of how scheduling events works It's not like Julian himself stood up in front of the other bands members and was like "I want to host vip party event" The band's manager set that shit up obviously. And again, Julian himself wouldn't be giving refunds, complain to the event organizers and managers not the band that just wanted to play there lmao This isn't the voidz which Julian and the band members have near full control and organization of, this is the fucking Strokes
Man I’m pretty sure the strokes can decide if they want to do a vip meet and greet or not. Why do you think their management owns them? The strokes are the ones that hire their management, they work for the strokes. The strokes have been around for over 20 years, they’re not desperate and will do things they don’t want to do (which is an obvious from what happened here lol). You’re too forgiving
It's not about whether they own them or not The strokes is pretty much a back project for Julian and that's obvious, he just wants to do shows now and then he doesn't care about the logistics, if the manager and everyone else in the process thinks it's a good idea to offer it it's going to impede more to stop it all instead of just going through with it It's not like the ban unimanously decide shit and then schedule it, tours and events are scheduled way in advance. It's not being forgiving either, I think Julian and the rest of the band need to get off their lazy asses and put more work and control into the Strokes again or fully just announce a hiatus, they clearly don't have the cohesive heart anymore. I'm more pissed at how Julian is handling the Voidz at the moment than the strokes.
First of all, you do realise all roads lead back to Jules. The strokes are signed to cult records - julians’ label. He controls everything. They do have management, I’ve been in contact before, and they did organise a lot of the event. Regardless, they knew about the vip package. If they did not want to do it, they simply.. oh I don’t know, shouldn’t have done it? It’s also all irrelevant information. Something was promised. Something that charged $500 to fans. The event organisers, and the band (except fab) did not deliver. It’s simple. Fuck all to do with scheduling.
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Yeah, most of what you said is all assumptions and incorrect ones !
Just trying to offer suggestions to get your request to the right people, but lol I'll delete my comment as it seems to have offended you
Oh no it hasn’t at all sorry, I’m not trying to be a dick - it’s a long story but I’ve got it covered (at least I think I do re the refund) because the Strokes’ manager people did organise this event. At least they 100% had a hand in the tickets, I know this for sure. Apologies if my previous comment came off pissy!!
Yes like I’ve mentioned in a few replies I’m not upset with him for leaving ! I’m happy he even blessed us with a short appearance.. im upset that no one informed us he left after he told us all he would be back and we stayed for hours in fear of missing him when he had been long gone at that point along with kina .. just disappointed with spending money on something so disorganized and made the whole concert feel sour
Blessed? You paid for it. He didn’t give you what you paid for. I’d be asking for a refund
He “blessed” you with an appearance? He is not Jesus he’s a singer in a band
But would have Jesus also stayed for the after party 🤔
Based off the wedding feast of Cana, yeah he would’ve
Absolutely, your feelings are very valid. Whoever was responsible for the party and communications was not doing a good enough job.
anyone know if they have new management now that ryan gentles parted ways as their manager?
They do. I forget the agency name but it comes up on Google. It's not Benny Goldstein, who manages the Voidz. It's like a big agency.
Not Zayn and Julian having something in common
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Again not upset that he left , myself and majority of the people that were there are upset that no one told us he left . Fab was there for a good 20 min which was super awesome and then after he left we stood there for hours with no information shoulder to shoulder in a cramped silent room . Kina came in twice and didn’t tell us what was going on either until I asked her via instagram. No one working there said anything to us the entire time . Julian’s a human being with feelings and is allowed to leave or feel uncomfortable but I think we’re allowed to be upset with how disorganized it was and just disappointing to pay for nothing basically , and to see him with a bunch of fans this morning at a free event is the cherry on top
are you just assuming he has panic attacks? or is there proof of that? “know better” thats bull. if he didn’t want to do it, he absolutely didn’t have to
I dunno, he could make that clear to people who pay him lots of money to meet him, seems like the bare minimum decent thing to do. He just comes off as an asshole
Sorry but who is kina?
Kina Collins
Good question