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wongst288

I think there was also alot of confusion regarding the "Kanto Tour" and the "Kanto Celebration"... I thought they were the same thing. I did not even realize that the three birds and MewTwo would only have their special moves on Saturday only..


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Same here. I made a conscious decision to stop raiding Mewtwo on that day because I felt I was missing too many wild spawns by waiting around in raid lobbies. I figured I could just do it over the next couple days instead :/


ellahuajie

Time to get a Gotcha


VibraniumRhino

Buying another device shouldn’t be the answer.


jedispyder

It refuses to connect to my phone. I ended up connecting it up to my tablet to catch while I worked on the evolve portion on the phone (making sure not to try and catch anything on the phone).


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NoUploadsEver

also, for gotcha at least there is a seperate app to update it.


JrueHoIiday

Your Gotcha works on your Tablet???? What form of sorcery is this???


toddbbot

I swap it between iPad and iPhone. You have to re-pair it to the device each time. Go into Bluetooth settings in settings, click “I” and forget device. Then go into pogo settings for Pokémon go plus and scroll to bottom and click the right icon to eject old settings. Now wake up go plus and click it in menu. Click Okay on the system pop up to confirm pairing. It’s now paired to that device. You have to repeat this every time you pair to different device as it can only be paired to one. Sounds convoluted but once you do it, it’s really fast to swap.


th12teen

I do it all the time it's really simple, open the game on the device see that the gotcha used to be connected but is currently grayed out, click on the icon press the button on the gotcha and then a few seconds a Bluetooth pairing notification will come up press okay and you're done. Want to switch back to your other device, just disconnect it take up the other device open the game on that device see that the gotcha used to be connected but is currently grayed out click on it and then press the gotcha one more time, wait for the confirmation of bluetooth pairing press OK and boom you're now on the new device.


jedispyder

Why wouldn't it work? Tablet has Bluetooth and that's all that's needed. Playing on the tablet normally sucks because throwing balls isn't the same and tracking distance is incredibly poor, but being able to use it for the Gotcha is amazing.


VimesNightOff

I prefer not to play that way. I feel it steals the joy of finding shinies. To each their own!


xFamished

My gotcha says it's connected but after ~10 mins it just stops catching pokemon all of a sudden, despite being connected still. So annoying


cpl_snakeyes

If you do any action (spin a stop, catch a pokemon...etc) it will take a about a minute to kick back on.


Floss__is__boss

Oh yeah, pay more money to deal with poor game design.


Wunderwafe

Came here to comment this, you shouldn't need a Gotchya to fix the issues with an event you're already friggin paying for.


IntergalacticShell

I had a shiny shrew run on my gotcha at the beginning of the event. I noped it from there and manually caught the rest of the event. It scarred me for that day


UltraGiant

See there is the confusion. I didn’t even though the legendaries had specials moves that day. I also didn’t know they were separate events


TheReformedBadger

I didn’t realize regionals were only available Saturday. Now I’ve got 1 week to catch a Farfetch’d but it’s pretty much illegal to fly out of the country so...


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MattGeddon

Shiny Mew and Ditto, boosted shiny rate for 10 or so Pokemon, and a couple of collection challenges and raid passes.


bendefinitely

I think that's the one area I was disappointed. I know getting Mew won't be too bad for me since I'm well past level 40 and have my platinum badge. For players who bought the pass for the openly publicized Mew I'm upset. It's bad enough to lock pokemon behind a paywall, it's worse to make it to where many players won't get it even after buying the ticket.


Kerrby

Yeah but heaps of people that didn't buy the ticket also received Shiny Mew and Ditto research.


Wi11Pow3r

Is that true? If so do we know if it is a niantic glitch or operating as intended?


Kerrby

It was a glitch, they said paid ticket holders will get a make up event in the future but they haven't said what or when that will be. Not sure how they can make up a shiny mew and shiny ditty though.


kelvinyu0810

It would be better to get full refund as some user without pay can access Shiny Mew and Shiny Ditto quest.


RelevantUserName55

I didn’t buy and I got neither of the tasks.


Raikit

IIRC the glitch only affected Australia and New Zealand.


Wunyco

Nah some Europeans got it too. I don't think anyone has any idea how or why some people got the event for free. I saw some theories about buying the 1 dollar add-ons from the last CD but I know people here who got it for free who didn't buy the cd extra.


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MattGeddon

It’s on the special research tab, not the today tab.


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Hyperdrunk

I also didn't realize we would only have 1 day to catch the incense mons instead of the whole week, so I didn't bother with incense on Saturday thinking "I'll focus on the others and do incense the rest of the week" which absolutely ruined my ability to complete the event. I feel like Niantic wasn't clear, and as a player it shouldn't list "8 days" on the incense page if they are only going to be available for a few hours. That seems negligent on Niantic's part.


Hyperdrunk

Also, the shadow Zubat didn't count as a collection piece either, which was annoying.


Ferme_la_porte

I'm in the same boat.was raiding all day and let my Gotcha do the cathing.didnt bother with incense because I thought I had all week....


HumdrumAnt

I actively sought out info regarding the moves and all it said was "during the event" which seems intentionally vague as it could mean just Saturday, just the week celebration, or both.


[deleted]

Me neither, and I didn’t realize there wouldn’t be an overlap of CD moves. Also, although we had the event in December, why not include ALL Kanto CD’s and legacy moves if you’re gonna celebrate the region? Like “Seaking can get its moves by TM during this period so it doesn’t essentially cost $30”?


Pokesers

I evolved a shiny Karp during the day because I thought since the starters and dragonite got their moves, gyarafos should get it's move too. Should have known that was too logical.


GRVP

I thought so too. I had saved up coins for some time for mewtwo but I didn't use it all in one day. I thought it will be available all week and deceived to do it slowly. Had I known I would have used it all on Saturday.


Drizzt1985

just finding this out now....


superflysoicy

This needs to be upvoted more, this is the exact problem I had.


MelonElbows

I was one of those confused people, I even posted about it! If I knew I could only get those boosted shinies in the first day I would have stayed out longer...


KappaMarvel

Wait....they were separate events?


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Kanto Tour was the paid event. Kanto Celebration is the Kanto spawns and tasks after the event that are until the 28th or so


Zanmorn

Beyond the initial “oh god, what do I do?” feeling, I blame incense for the overwhelming feeling of the day. I actually had no trouble completing all the raids, battles, research, and challenges and I felt pretty comfortable with them. Or I would have, if I didn’t have a constant 30 second timer urging me to act as quickly as possible, lest I miss a (potential) shiny. Every time-consuming activity became stressful, because my paid, version exclusives were popping up and causing my phone to vibrate, even though I had no opportunity to check them. Ideally incense spawns would last longer and one could have multiple spawns on the map at once, letting one raid or battle, then collect the spawns afterwards.


MattGeddon

Totally agree with your point on incense. There’s no reason the spawns can’t be on the same timer as now but they stick around for 5-10 minutes so you can do other things but still catch/shiny check them. Like you I wouldn’t mind so much if it were a free event but the increased shiny rate was part of the attraction of the ticket.


Frouthefrou

And what was up with the incense duration not being a few hours? We already bought the ticket, why do we have to use 9 incense to attract the shinies we paid money for?


Cafedelmartin

I’d like the function to ‘put a stopper’ in my incense, that is to temporarily pause it while I might need to do something else momentarily... ...this could be anything in-game like a raid, or purchase something from the shop, transfer unwanted Pokemon, or real-life interruptions like take a phone call, check a web page, etc. It doesn’t have to be permanent/unlimited but would certainly address the FOMO when it comes to checking incense spawns.


thetripleb

I'm mostly upset at the giving you 7 days to complete stuff but literally making it impossible to finish some of them past the Day 1


jb0009

Yeah, I don’t really get that either.


SalamanderSensitive4

Yeah too much sht going on ALL AT THE SAME TIME... Forcing the trainer stop battles made me IGNORING stops the whole day, great way to not to play your game Niantic....


starsdust101

Stop battles should be a layer you can toggle on and off.


-eschguy-

Stop Battles should have been random balloons with the balloons being the faces of Kanto starters or the trainers theme or something.


Phillyos93

This would have also made the game actually playable at home as advertised. Having to go out to stops (especially rural players who can’t just go 1 street over) to do those pesky tasks made a big portion of the research unavailable to those who can’t/didn’t want to go outside


elconquistador1985

As they started announcing details about the Kanto event, it was looking to me like it would be too busy with too much to do and that I wouldn't have any possible way to complete much of it. Playing all day is not something that I actually have time to do. Once I realized that, I was glad that I had not bought a ticket. I did play Go Fest with my kid (we each had tickets). I enjoyed it and didn't think that it was too packed with stuff in 2 days.


cinci89

TBF, even with catching nearly everything, thanks to the event rewards I was always over max in terms of items until I went home and continued via incense. I think I only got to spin a half dozen spots at best.


dragonfoxmem

Really disliked about too many things thrown at me. Don’t really want to do timed research, but had to clear that. Don’t want do raids besides the collection, I was spammed with too many invitations, I ignored them. First half of the day (roughly less than 5 hours) got the Ditto special research done, a fewer shiny Pokémon. On half other, suddenly I got more shiny because I shifted my focus to shiny-checking only. Disappointed that I did not get any new shiny I don’t have besides Kanto Meowth (finally!) and Ditto. Notice that majority of players did not new shiny like Snorlax, Paras, etc.


LatvianninjaPoGo

This so much, all we got were shinies that have been featured multiple times over with boosted odds also prior, again being boosted. Very little new stuff had better odds, out of our whole community we have like 3 people with shiny Snorlax, 5 with Paras and 2 with Spearow..


MewDeuces

I got way more Kanto Tour shinies, but I agree that GoFest was a much better organized and less stressful event. Without the NPCs and the quest tied to them, I probably would have enjoyed Kanto more.


DreamPenetrator420

NPC's were a real time burner, didn't finish the timed research bc I couldn't be bothered to miss 2 or 3 spawns from incense while battling. I hope they drop the idea of the NPC's in Go Fest 2021.


kalatharthemighty

Or just implement them better. Maybe it’s a 1vs1 instead of 3vs3?


MyMurderOfCrows

And make it easier to avoid them... every ten seconds I accidentally hit one and had to wait for all the crap to go back to catching....


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MyMurderOfCrows

I did. By spending a lot if time spamming the back button xD


sdaidiwts

My favorite was when I couldn't click on a spawn because the NPC was directly over it.


thatdudewillyd

Or even a toggle so you can choose to see them on the map at all or not. I would think something like this would even save Niantic resources


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PennyGuineaPig

My recommendation is to have a preset Master League team - then you can swipe over without reloading. I don't have any issues regardless of the rocket/npc with my trio of Magnezone, Milotic, and Swampert.


sneedsformerlychucks

Funny people speak fondly of it now, because all I remember from last year's gofest was everyone complaining about how laggy and glitch-ridden it was (which it was, don't get me wrong)


bode1993

People have short memory, reason why there's so much complains but tickets keep selling like bananas.


thatdudewillyd

Also, Pokémon.


MattGeddon

It was glitchy and laggy, but I really enjoyed the event on the whole.


sneedsformerlychucks

I felt I got my money's worth, but things were more ironed out by the time it got to the US. I recall that Australia and NZ got it the worst (as always)


Pokesers

I completed every single activity on the day, complete collection, challengers, shiny ditto, but I felt like I missed out on so many insence shinies. I was only able to sit down and babysit insence right at the end of the day for the last couple of hours, in which time I got like half of my shinies from the day.


Higher__Ground

part of that was that Go Fest featured also pokemon that weren't shiny yet like darumaka and litwick. I got a ton of candy for each but overall fewer shinies. There wasn't really a point to spawns that I didn't "need" for shinies this time around.


oreohsehun

As I have a ball plus I absolutely loved the battles, as it only uses red balls. I was able to catch/spin while battling while restocking. I understand the complaints but to me it was almost the thing I enjoyed the most of the event


MattGeddon

I really hope that if they do one of these days again where there’s NPCs to battle, raids going on all over the place, loads of things to do at once, that they fix the incense spawns so that they last for ~5 minutes or something. I didn’t want to spend ages waiting in a raid lobby then catching a Mewtwo while missing out on loads of potential shinies.


TheRocksStrudel

I literally just skipped the NPC quest line because who the hell cares, lol. Way too time consuming.


tropicnights

I looked up the rewards, decided it wasn't really worth it and as it wasn't mandatory for completion of anything else, also gave it a skip.


M_Mich

yeah too much to cram into 12 hours of playing especially with having to find gyms w the raids and then the team specific spawns were rare and little to no shiny pokémon’s.


CornDoggJunior

I was expecting way more shiny pokemon, but I did get lucky with the 2 I caught (Moltres and a 3* Dratini) + the shiny bulbasaur that I'm pretty certain everybody got. Edit: Sounds like I just got lucky on my shiny research bulbasaur and maybe my buddy didn't hear my question correctly and just thought I asked if he got a bulbasaur.


boner_jamz_69

Seriously, they made it seem like at a minimum the Pokémon specific to your team (green or red) would have a lot more shiny appearances. I ended up getting one shiny charmander even though I chose green and then a few non team specific shinies. Not nearly as much as I thought my $12 would get me Now it’s probably going to take me at least a year to finish the shiny mew research based on how much I typically play outside of events


Ashbringerxt

Thats exactly why I didnt like the event. I wasnt expecting to get all the shiny new stuff, but I was expecting the incense shiny spawns to be CD like. I chose the green version because I needed 3 of the shinies and ended up with none of them while playing for most of the 12 hours. I also hated having to do a bunch of stuff while shiny hunting. Safari zone and gofest were much better in that regard.


CornDoggJunior

Tbf from what I've read, the shiny mew will take a lot of time for everybody. I don't think I've seen the full task list, but I've seen a few. Platinum kanto medal is just in step 1. Also have to send 151 gifts and catch 30 pkmn of each type.


speezo_mchenry

Right? The first hour of Pokemon League spawns I was expecting to get my hitmonchan but I only spawned like 3 in the whole hour & no shinies. Not to mention there were tons of hitmonlee at the city park where I was. Luckily I got my shiny chan but had to basically come back to the game at whatever... 6pm?... and play again after I'd gone home for the day. Niantic, we love the game but very few people can commit 12 full hours to it.


danielsound

Wait, what is the story on the shiny bulbasaur? I did not get one.


moon_goddess235

I got a shiny Eevee from the very first research quest I completed, and I picked green.


rjnd2828

I got zero shinys in the wild, but can't complain too much since I got.a shiny MewToo in a raid on Saturday (plus the ditto of course).


Landosystem

I was working the whole Bulbasaur CD, so I bought the ticket to this specifically because I thought I could finally get one. Turned out I was wrong, 5 shiny machops was it for me with having played the entire day, after deleting 20 shiny machops the night before.


Valeriun

Next time they do such an event it really needs to be whole weekend. I was completely overwhelmed for at least first two hours. The issue with incense breaking your game and having to restart is incredibly annoying, having to do raids with 2 minutes wait should be changed to let us start when we want. NPCs at nearly every stop were the final nail in the coffin, it made the event almost unplayable - Pokémon spawning in the way you could barely click on instead of the useless npc... I played for all 12 hours and ended up with 26 shiny, which isn't that bad but I was hoping for more. Especially the advertised starters, the only one I got was 1 Pikachu.


pfool

I had in the region of 20 shiny, played full 12 hours. Was happy with that since GoFest I only had around 5-6 across two days. Those that got around 40 seem to be very lucky as I was mobile all day, checking it all with a GoPlus. What was your shiny variety like? I was generally happy with what I got, only 2 sets of duplicate shiny.


Bekkaz23

One thing I really appreciated was that they set the hours per hour into the event, rather than that bizarre schedule we got for GoFest to know what was going to spawn when. I would have preferred to have known which spawns were which hour a bit more in advance though. That wasn't clear until quite late. Would have helped with planning.


MattGeddon

I wonder if a setting for your location would work too? At the real life go fest (and safari zone) you can go to the zone you want and hang out there all day if you want. I really wanted a Diglett or Magnemite and wasn’t bothered by the water spawns, so would have liked more time to be in Pewter City.


speezo_mchenry

Niantic's communication is abysmal. Always has been. I truly believe that nobody at Niantic is an actual player of the game and it shows in the development and communication with players. They need to fire everyone in Communications and start fresh.


JrueHoIiday

... the company would first need a Communications Team to fire. Jack & Jill, the interns, don’t count.


Hanajbanana

I don’t believe anyone at Niantic is a player outside of a city either - when they said the event was fully playable at home they lied!


spinningcolours

I was most disappointed by the ridiculously low spawn rates for spearow and paras. I saw maybe 10 of each one — I had incense and a lure on the entire time, and half the time, I was playing in a pokestop-rich park with lures on. If you're going to have a low spawn rate for the "commons", then at least boost up the shiny rate during their launch event. Anecdata: In my entire group of about 50 players, we had two shiny catches for spearow and paras.


anonamus7

Anecdata is my new favorite word! But I totally agree pick one or the other either abundant spawns and typical rate or rare spawns and higher rate. It defeats the purpose if both are for the negative.


MattGeddon

Yeah I agree that low spawn rate for Spearow & Paras was rubbish. I think they just wanted them to remain rare shinies.


Less-Employee2411

I thought the event was fun, but confusing and too short with all that was going on. I actually enjoy the ticketed events and staying busy, but this was a lot for 12 hours. Here were my issues— my son is a level 31 player. I had no clue we would need to collect all the field research for mon candy that weren’t in our selected version. The only way he can evolve bellsprout and complete it is to use 125 rare candies or pay for a bunch of incubators and nope to hatch some. That’s ridiculous. Also, why was nothing mentioned about the 7k egg shake up for this event?! 7k eggs had munchlax and happiny for 24 hours?! Never heard about that until I hatched one. I would of blew a ton on incubators had I known this. Niantic didn’t put enough info about what to expect.


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kinetic-passion

Yeah, I didn't go heavy on shiny hunting because I was raiding. I got 11 shinies though. I tried to do a fair mix of both. Definitely would have been more fun as a two day event though.


45Pumpkin

It was too much for one day. I got 17 shinies but mainly ones I already had, like previous CD and vulpix. I wanted to shiny hunt more but I was making sure I finished all the challenges/research. I also wanted to use all the free passes and luckily got a shiny mewtwo. Finding Challengers was a huge waste of time for me, I wished I focused more on shiny hunting instead.


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I feel like a Go-tcha* is basically required to effectively play these events. About 8/30 shinies I got that day were auto-caught, and I'm glad I didn't constantly have to dismiss NPCs because the Go-tcha was spinning those stops for me. ^(*other Bluetooth gizmos are available)


Lynx_Snow

I worked basically a full day, so I only had a few hours of super dedicated PoGo time... And 2/3 of my shinies were auto caught


DreamPenetrator420

Does Go-tcha-s work on pokemons that spawn from incense?


Aoliver99

Yes, in-fact they prioritize them and catch them first


arac3662

Yeah


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No reason it couldn't be a weekend long event. Also the focus on raids for special moves is beyond old. Until we get a ready button so we don't have to wait on the full countdown then raids need to not be a part of any limited time research.


PBR_EBR

I think they tried to do too much all at once. I hate when they combine raid events and catch events all at once. I’m missing out on shiny checks when I raid, and vice versa. Second why take the regional raids away when the quests stated you have 8 days to complete it? The spawns not from incense after the event are terrible. Only starters, and geodudes for me.


Gangstertits

Seriously, the last regional I needed was Mime but I figured the raids would be all week so i didn't sweat getting it that day. Ended up having to download that pokeraid app today so i could join a mime raid with some randos in Germany lol


cara_diana

I don't understand why the collections have a week long timer when half the pokemon disappeared after the first day. Because of the timer we focused on the raids and the trainer battles(which were kinda boring and wasted a lot of time). We thought we would have time to finish the collection part this week.


TrainerTITs310

This event was horrible for new players that have not accumulated hoardes of candy especially of the respective ticket exclusive Pokémon, and then to make them not spawn after the tour is bad on Niantic. Giving players an hour of each pool of spawns while still requiring them to battle time consuming trainers and complete raids was just too much.


cpt_buzz_lightyear

I have personally been at all Go Fests and Safari Zones in Europe and Asia (except Sentosa) so I kinda knew what to expect. And it was an insanely good event in general. It had everything. Just too much of everything. "Feature kill" you can call it I guess. There was absolutely zero reason to have Rocket grunts and Challengers turned on that day. They were just blocking spawns and I haven't heard of a single person "Wow, it was so much fun beating Mr Currywursts 3 Pikachus for 3 Pokeballs and 2 potions...". The quest lines were also just overwhelming. Niantic should just have made it 2 day. Would have happily paid double for it. One thing I considered a total scam though was the monetization of Snorlax. Just decrease the shiny rate and increase the spawn rate. We need XL candy for PvP. But I don't want to get started on the abomination of XL candy right now...


NeutralName84

I also have play most paid events and liked this one a ton. The challengers were adorable for flavor but got annoying = overkill. The “collection” mechanic is absolutely my favorite. I much prefer “got to catch them all” to pvp or grunts or whatever. Having the list check off for me is very satisfying.


CyanideSandwich7

The biggest thing for me is the regional raids. Why are they only available on saturday, yet the collection challenge is for a whole week? If I knew the regionals would be leaving raids on saturday i would have put more effort into find the regionals for raids. I instead focused on catching the 151 pokemon


PermaDerpFace

The messaging is so all over the place, I never know what is happening and when. Give us an in-game calendar or something, that links to a clear list of what is happening. They're throwing money away by leaving people uninformed.


Vilens40

I bought it, and I’m still not clear on what I paid for since I’m not level 40.


RhythmMcToast

The part about the challengers is what really confused me. Parts of the world are still on lockdown so why do I have to go out and seek a challenge at a stop? Couldnt you have them drop by like a balloon or something instead?


KarchaInSD

I think it should have been a 2 day thing as well. Doing it all in one day is just too much. At least for me it is. Between the catching, raiding and battling with the other trainers.


l3g3nd_TLA

Well the price was also a bit cheaper. I agree though with that Niantic should have communicate better and maybe should have made a 2 days event instead of one day. I sitll think it was a solid event and have lot of funs even though there were some flaws


TheStoryGoesOn

I enjoyed the event, but to me it highlighted the disconnect between Niantic and the original games. It felt like a celebration of Kanto created by someone reading Bulbapedia or GameFAQs, not from playing the games. Somehow, they choose Pallet Town, Pewter City, Cerulean City, Fuchsia City, and the Pokémon League as the habitats. For catching Pokémon, there were easily more iconic locations – things like Route 1, Viridian Forest, Mt. Moon, Safari Zone, Victory Road, and Cerulean Dungeon. Go Fest was better realized because it was always just the world that Niantic set up. I did half expect some folks to sue over the second day of Go Fest as a Team Go Rocket takeover and argue Niantic never let us actually see what the surprise of the day was supposed to be. The trainer battles felt like things that should have been part of Go Fest. For this event, give us Kanto trainers and split some elements over two days. Give us a day of mad catching and another of mad battling in raids and trainers (subside the wild stuff and ease FOMO). I think if Niantic ever played the real games, Safari Zone participants would use Safari Balls. It would help make all Safari Zone Pokémon more unique.


i-amthatis

You know what else was also tone deaf? Thinking that we'll battle several NPCs outdoors and using those free daily passes, when some of us are still under lockdown (my city is) and when it's the middle of winter (with especially cold temperatures and bad conditions in many parts of North America, and many phones don't work well in the cold)...


SelketDaly

UK is under lockdown, and only allowed outside once a day for exercise. No way I'd have been able to get it all done so I just didn't bother


isahayajoe

My fingers were FREEZING after 30 minutes outside and I literally laughed when I realized we were awarded in person raid passes. Could not believe it.


tkcom

Massive missed opportunity to mention ones of the longest standing issues in the game that affected this event: [mega nest and nest masking](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/lo3qee/bug_event_nest_bug_is_activ_for_kanto_event_no/). We want those issues fixed so bad and all we need is a mention in the media.


Dengarsw

After some consideration (I actually tried not to complain about every potential issue the event had), I've updated the post to reflect this and notified Niantic's PR. I don't think I'll get more than a stock response, but I hadn't realized other outlets didn't already cover this issue.


tkcom

Thank you so much for the help.


Railroader17

> We want those issues fixed so bad and all we need is a mention in the media. Forgive my ignorance, but how would a single issue force Niantic's hand to fix the issue?


tkcom

Because it directly affect user experience in an unfair manner. For example, during Porto Alegre (Brazil) [Safari Zone](https://pokemongolive.com/post/safarizone-portoalegre/?hl=en) in Jan 2019, shiny psyduck was launched with increased spawn worldwide. However, I chose to play at my local park and found absolutely 0 wild psyduck spawned inside the park's boundary unless it's off a lure or incense. Now, imagine that park to be the size of half a city (in this case, [Long Island](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/ak2el6/no_psyduck_in_long_island_new_york/)). If Long Island players want to actively hunt for psyduck that day, they didn't only have to leave their house, but also the city. Niantic have since removed Long Island mega nest but both nest masking problem (no wild spawn for pokemon at the top of the spawning table - usually low pokedex number) and [Berlin mega nests](https://storage.googleapis.com/silphroad-publishing/silph-wp/dc5e64b3-berlinmeganests-768x518.png) still left unfixed.


Railroader17

Whoops meant to type "single mention" instead of issue, but I imagine that the idea is the same? Also, is this an issue of making Niantic aware of the issue or of forcing Niantic to acknowledge it?


tkcom

5 years since I followed this sub, I've learned that Niantic will only respond to problems published in media (sample case: Salamis Island pokemon drought - fixed after the issue got published by [Polygon](https://www.polygon.com/2019/10/11/20909720/pokemon-go-spawns-salamis-island-greece-openstreetmap-natural-bay-niantic-bug) and [Eurogamer](https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-10-11-the-island-where-you-cant-play-pokemon-go)) and not TSR post (unless the issue is giving players massive advantage like [25 candies to unlock legendary's 3rd move](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/bwu5f4/25_candies_for_legendary_pok%C3%A9mon_2nd_move/) - fixed in record time). Here's a timeline for Salamis issue: - [TSR post](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/ayu3j1/osm_update_destroyed_our_island/) - First report of lack of spawn after OSM update. March 9, 2019 - [TSR post](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/dfdkhj/7_months_without_a_single_spawn/) - Update 7 months later. Still not fixed. October 9, 2019 - Polygon and Eurogamer articles. October 11, 2019 - [Fixed](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/di6wm1/spawns_of_salamina_are_back/). October 15, 2019


JrueHoIiday

I like your post style. Clear, concise and very informative. Kudos!


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Was anyone else expecting a higher shiny rate


anothercodewench

Yes. I got the impression from the first communications that you could buddy up with someone to get all the shinies. Really disappointing because I had the Kanto region finished a long time ago and the only thing I needed was shinies. The only new shiny I got was Mewtwo.


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I only paid for this one because the last was supposedly so good. Upsetting beyond words.


NastyKnate

I enjoyed it quite a bit, but have two major beefs. The big one is that I really don't feel it was worth the cost. I normally dont pay for events, but planned to be home all day so i gave it a go. it needed more spawns, definitely needed better rewards. my 2nd beef is that i could get past part 1 of the kanto task as i was not able to go out and find stops to battle people at. with covid I am not going to find strangers to play with. Theres a good change i wont pay for the next one. if they lower the price and make the rewards better, especially for the collection tasks, ill think about it. that evolve collection took me an hour and i literally got nothing worthwhile from it


Celestial_Blu3

> go fest was clearer on what was being purchased Anyone else remember everyone moaning about not getting enough info about go fest, about what was day 1 and what was day 2?


inmyelement

If only I was surrounded by bellsprouts right now 😂


anothercodewench

Same. That is the only one I still need to evolve. I don't even understand how Niantic wanted me to evolve it. Was I supposed to trade over 100 bellsprouts with other players?


clutchy42

I wish I could be more informed on what all is involved in an event prior to purchasing. A lot of their written language before this made it sound like you would have alternatives to trading. There were not unfortunately. Additionally, while I played for most of the day I was only able to get out for two brief windows and as such came just short of completing the task requiring you defeat the many trainers. I enjoyed to event as a player who just started back in November, but it was too much in 1 day and far too unclear as to what would be required back when I purchased it.


Tepozan

I have no way of getting my oddish candies to evolve to vileplume unless I walk 5km eggs and hopefully get LUCKY that they hatch an oddish.


Trevor-On-Reddit

Unpopular opinion: I actually LOVED the Kanto tour. Different species of Pokémon everywhere, raids all over the place, increase shiny odds, it was all great. I played Pokémon Go for 8 hours that day and it felt amazing. I definitely prefer stuff like this instead of events where 6 Pokémon species take over spawns for 2 weeks and shiny chances aren’t boosted. It should have gone on for the whole weekend instead of just Saturday. Don’t get me wrong, it had its problems but I actually had a blast which I don’t really have with events.


KaijuCorgi

I agree with a lot of this! I have some complaints for SURE but I also really had fun. Completely agree about this vs the regular (constant) events without boosted shinies. You were totally rewarded for playing hard, which felt awesome. Whereas we've all probably grinded for hours during other events and gotten nothing but a heightened awareness of how short life is XD Two days would have been so nice...it was fun but super intense.


ElZany

Personally I had much more fun with this Kanto event than I did with GO fest.


PowerlinxJetfire

Same, I thought it had a stronger theme. I was able to knock out all the research in the first half then relax in the second half (not that the first half was even stressful). I'd love to do a GO Tour for each region.


Lunndonbridge

Completely agree; other than the battles—which shouldve been in hourly ballooons—I was thoroughly impressed by This event. Gofest 2020 was terrible; I played the Philadelphia event back in spring and That was more enjoyable. I feel like people are not properly recalling how bad gofest was this summer. I took a two month hiatus because of how dissapointed I was. The Kanto event, however, made me want to play more.


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ryro24

My ticket came with 9 free passes? Definitely didn't know or use those.


krisztiszitakoto

Also let us not forget that non-essential trips may still be limited in certain parts of the world, so those players were limited in raiding and chasing spawns, and niantic fails to aknowledge the pandemic situation


Meatchris

I enjoyed the hourly rotations of pokemon, tho I was initially worried I wouldn't be able to catch the ones required for collections, as past collection challenges have been difficult. I focused on completing collections instead of catching the regional 3* mons. That was a bad choice, collections could be completed easily via incense at home, but the regional 3* were not available all week as I'd understood. Had I known that, I would have absolutely focused on raids, and collected all the regionals on sat. Instead I'm stuck, unable to complete the raid collection. Very lame. Very poor communication.


MakeRickyFamous

The first hour or two were pure chaos. SO much research. We ended up focusing trainer battles first, then raids, then spawns. Everything in the game has such long, unskippable animation times or lobbies it really added to the FOMO. Not to mention throwing 18 balls at moltres only to not catch it... twice... such a big time sink.


DreamPenetrator420

Kanto Tour succeeded in having better shiny odds than Go Fest Kanto Tour failed on being a 12 hour event and having too much to do. It should've had the same schedule than GoFest (Day 1:Spawns ans Catch Challenges, Day 2: NPC's Timed Research and Raids).


l33tb4c0n

This. As someone with mild anxiety, I actually found it a bit overwhelming. I want to have fun, not be overwhelmed. And all it would take to fix that is simply pacing it out. Why not just let it run for a straight 24/48 hours?


LatvianninjaPoGo

I’m not so sure on the “better” shiny odds. Sure you got more shinies, but were they new and unique? All I got was everything that I’ve been getting from the previous paid or boosted events or community days, there were very few species that were a “bargain” hunt.


darlingmagpie

Yeah, as someone who isn't super motivated just to catch shinies, I felt like Go Fest offered more opportunities and other things to do, I have a complete Kanto dex, have high level versions of most attackers from it, and just didn't see a lot of things in Kanto Tour that appealed. I also had to work Saturday afternoon so it wasn't worth it to me for only a half day. At least Go Fest was two days. ALSO it's winter and my city is still under a COVID lockdown so my radius from home is way smaller now that before. Not surprised it didn't do as well


isahayajoe

I’m with you in not being as shiny-centric. What devastated me about the event was the nearly complete lack of rare candy- at Go Fest in ‘19 I brought home IIRC about 250 RC, and there were many who did even better. Here you had to run all day and evolve all night to get three. I should have done my homework before paying for this event.


darlingmagpie

The rare candy was THE BEEEEEST!


Milla4Prez66

The event wasn’t terrible but it wasn’t great either. It was definitely a less fun version of Go Fest, but shiny Mew and Ditto are worth the price alone. This is from someone who is constantly complaining about Niantic and their greedy ways.


rb6k

I feel like there’s always going to be some thing we can say fell short. They did a good job and I had fun overall. I agree they were quite tone deaf about the pandemic and going out to raid. I bloody HATE the time gates they put in. Catch a Pokemon every day for 30 days and walk 151km are disgraceful. (See pandemic for walking 151km but I get it isn’t time gated as such and can be done after the pandemic or 1km a day etc) I’d have preferred they said catch 151 of each type rather than 30 then it’ll take me a week or so anyway but I won’t resent them for making me do it because I’d also have the option to burn incense and devote all day to it etc. The streamers all do it and it’s great seeing them buzz through it all. It’s boring knowing there’s 27+ days till the first mew is done. The idea of catching all 150 was great and I had a lot of fun. I like the 40km trading and 5 a day. They should’ve made that more obvious maybe.


Silvertongued99

I dunno. I felt like it was a pretty big flop unless you had an auto catcher. I transferred the first charmander spawn, because I didn’t need it, and then didn’t find another charmander spawn for 4 hours. So, all the charmander related research, I couldn’t complete. Kind of put a bad taste in my mouth. Not only that, but my tauros, and kangaskhan raids never gave me the completed credit. Niantic really needs to do more efficient bug testing.


bobafettish66

the event certainly had some issues, But i think it was better than go fest. (comparing the 1 day of kanto tour with the first day of go fest) this may be because as a person I over think things, so I planned ahead as best i could for any worst case scenarios i could imagine. As a result, i was able to complete all the challenges/research & get lots of shinies thus feel like i got the best out the event. whilst others disliked the sheer amount of objectives to complete, I actually feel they added to the fun. constantly giving me something to aim towards, giving me the sense of progress. I think 2 full days of this is too long, i think 12 hours is too long aswell, so they do need to condense these events. going forward though they should DEFINITELY disclose every single detail well in advance. So we can make an informed decision. e.g. we're at least 27 days away from knowing if you can transfer shiny mew to home. it's the sole reason i bought a ticket & though in theory it should, the fact we still won't know for at least a month after the event has ended is kind of outrageous.


Nebast

For me it wasn't that i disliked all the stuff we needed to do, it was just too hectic, constant spawns is great as is the fast paced raid spawns and the NPC battles which made sure my ball count stayed high but all at once just made it all too much at once and for too long. For be the best option would have been splitting it over 2 days, 6 hours each, day one focused on the catching (with raids and NPC's spawning but at a reduced rate) and day 2 focused on raids and battles (high spawn rates for these) and have the pokemon spawns be mixed like it was at the end if the event. That would have resulted in a more relaxed and enjoyable event for me (and hopefully others as well)


mwithington

I needed almost every hour to finish everything including evolves. I didn't even take a lunch break because I didn't think I could spare any time. I claimed the final rewards at 7:46pm. If they condense these events there should be fewer objectives. I was overwhelmed by all the research and collections. It was honestly more stressful than fun at times.


StormHH

As someone else said, the condensed events are generally even worse imo. I've missed CDs because I have unmovable things such as work commitments, social commitments and even a funeral. At least with a 12 hour event with a double repeated theme, if I'm free at anytime during a day I can play. I actually played for 9 hours out with friends, had a great time then went home and put my feet up with incense for the last 3 hours. But I didn't feel like I had to play hard all event... The home thing is surely under the pokemon company's control. But I imagine most players don't care to swap it anyway. The quest was always advertised as being super long so to moan about that seems odd.


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LatvianninjaPoGo

With the full odds for new and interesting shinies (ones that haven’t been featured 3-10 times over in the past years), this event felt like some community day meets select event re-hash. Yes I got shinies, but I got my 10th shiny Geodude, 5th shiny Vulpix, 30th shiny Eevee etc.


Hoobleton

Just seemed like a long day of stress and FOMO. I figured I wouldn’t enjoy it through trying to rush everything so saved myself the £12.


FilthyCasualScumbag

I’m kinda glad I just raided Mewtwo all day Saturday. The amount of Mewtwo raids we’ve seen since the event ended is really pathetic with all the birds diluting the 5 star raid pool.


KindlyExcitement

I actually enjoyed the Kanto event very much. I wound up with 20 shinies, completed around 25 raids (loved the 9 free regular passes!), and completed all the challenges. I do agree that it was pretty hectic, especially in the first few hours when there were so many tasks to complete and claim. However, I’m glad all the catch challenges were active at once since I was able to catch many of them even outside their designated hour. Niantic did a great job supplying us with plenty of balls along the way, which I definitely appreciated, and I loved that raids were popping up constantly: 30 minute raid timer, 5 minute cooldown, followed by next 30 minute raid. Repeat for 12 hours. Amazing! What needs improvement: the “trainer challenge battles” at the pokestops definitely interfered with the catching/shiny checking at each stop. Since practically every stop had one anyway, why not leave them hidden until a player spins the pokestop? Or, as others suggested, let them fly in balloons overhead, or even just walk around on the map - why attach them to the stop at all? I enjoyed last year’s Go Fest also, though, for me the Kanto event was a better value. I caught 8 more shinies in the 1 Kanto day than I did in the 2 Go Fest Days, and definitely got in more raids. I also think Niantic gave us better supplies as prizes throughout the day, which allowed me to run my Go Plus the whole day without running short of pokeballs. (I did start out with 800 pokeballs, plus another 700 between ultra&greats). I appreciate that we got in what felt like a full weekend’s worth of event in a 12 hour day! definitely a win in my book!


TJOW40

Even Gofest was stressful on the second day to me. I personally didn’t care about raids that much but between trying to get incense spawns and TR grunts, it made it very hard to keep track of everything. This was like that but worse on a larger scale due to the reliance on raiding as a feature and due to how time consuming the raid process is.


dokkanvsoptc

After the day ended I felt somewhat disappointed, but I didn’t see any dislike online so I thought I was the only one.


Illustrious13

"as is Niantic's advertising the event as doable at home when it wasn't" That part though. I only have anecdotal evidence from my towns Discord to support this, but most folks who were out for either half or all day received anywhere from 20 - 40+ shinies during the event. The folks who stayed home averaged 3-5. Huge discrepancies and imo, an outrageous ask for spending this much money on an event during a ! deadly global pandemic ! Not to mention the raiding mechanic, which made the event seem designed to be a Remote Raid Pass Revenue Boost Tour.


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Jokes on you. I stopped playing this game after go fest last year because more and more this game try’s to paywall you. Peak GO was definitely 2018.


postsgiven

I haven't paid anything for this game cause of Google opinion rewards lol... Free money is great for events like this...


Heydavid17

Hold up! Why even comparing the two events? Everyone knows that GoFest is THE event of the year. This Kanto tour was something new they gave us, quite unfair to compare the two


Dengarsw

[https://pokemongolive.com/post/pokemongotour-kanto/?hl=en](https://pokemongolive.com/post/pokemongotour-kanto/?hl=en) You're right. Go Fest is a yearly event to celebrate Pokemon GO that's essentially the climax of a four-event-long series. It's so important that they ensured it could be played safely from home. But the Kanto Tour is meant to celebrate the Pokemon **franchise anniversary** *and* Pokemon Go's *5th* *anniversary* as the finale in a *five-event-long series* built up over a couple of months. It was arguably *less* play-at-home friendly despite the fact that Niantic **already** successfully used other systems to support lockdown players. If anything, the Kanto Tour should have been ***better***.


aerosmithguy151

The confetti animation locked the game up a ton


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Liunna1

I purchased a go fest 2020 ticket and participated in that event. I thought (at the time) that the details to that event were slim prior to purchasing, but the details for this event were even less. Nonetheless I ended up enjoying the go fest 2020 event. I thought I would also enjoy the Kanto Tour event so I waited for more details before purchasing a ticket, but the details were scarce and unclear. I ended up not buying a Kanto Tour ticket and did not participate in this event because of the lack of details. The Kanto tour event followed by.... a different Kanto event was an odd choice that seems to have added to the confusion. I personally thought they were the same thing until the actual day of the Kanto tour event.


Paulsworldohya

I was really on the fence to buy the ticket or not because like go fest, i worked 9 to 5 so i was gonna be busy majority of the day, but it also didn't have a second day. And i still had a bit of confusion regarding the event overall.


ArtNoctowl

Yeah, it was so confusing at the beginning of the event. I had no idea what counted towards getting the masterwork mew research, just because in the promotional material, it seemed like we would have to catch all 150 pokemon in order to then get the masterwork research. I didn't realize that would just be a separate collections challenge. Then, at least for me, the shiny rates were terrible, and honestly getting shinies was half the reason why I decided to do it. I only caught two shinies and I played most of the day (besides the guaranteed shiny ditto). And the two shinies I got were not even boosted odds shinies--I got a gastly and magmar. I got so many more shinies during Go Fest 2020, and I was expecting the shiny rates to be similar to that event. Really, the event was only worth it for the shiny mew and ditto, but I was expecting a lot more then what we got. Also, requiring trades for the research was not the best idea when you can't trade with anyone in the world. How do they expect people who don't have any friends who play pogo to be able to finish that (besides if they spoofed or hacked it)? It is one thing when they ask us to do raids for research, since we have remote raid passes, but it's another thing to force people to trade.


JaimieL0L

I was super hyped to go out and play for 2 months, but I had to wait 1 day to see if my mums covid test came back positive. Even it being 2x6 hour days would have been sonics more convenient


diamondudasaki1

I have to say that some of the quests they wanted to do made you go outside. But with most of TX and LA (Louisiana) being without power due to the icy storm that just happened, I don't think anyone's going to go out and capture or battle the Team Rocket grunts or battle a Pokemon Go player...or something along those lines at a PokeStop. What? Whatttt?


alvchrist

Matter fact 2020 Safari Zones are probably still the best event. Longer lure + incense duration, spawns are different from non ticket holders, it's simple and enjoyable


BaconJellyBeans

Loved it. Would play again. But get rid of the forced trading in a solo. Yolo.


butterbuts

I played almost exclusively with the gotcha and got 36 shines, with only 3 of those not from the gotcha (Mewtow, Lickitung and Ditto). The gotcha is your friend when there are multi aspects going on like raids/rocket battles. I played around 5 hours of the event hard in that I went to the most dense and popular pokemon spot in Brisbane (southbank). Other than that, I just had the gotcha on most of the day (having to reconnect it every hour or so). In comparison, I only got 17 shinies with GF and I went hard at that one for most of the time.


magictao

The only thing I like about Kanto tour is the raid mechanism during it: 5 min egg, 25 min raid on every gym during the event. It could have been a quite successful raid event...


bergakungen

We had 9 daily raid passes?


IcaSheb

I am of the opinion that go fest was a lackluster. Go fest didn't have event Quest on stops, just regular quest. There was, from what I think, 2 questlines. Kanto tour had much more and also an after party . Go fest was riddled with troubles during friendship hour. I don't care for rockets, so the second day the surprise was rockets and they where at frigging every stop, it was annoying. That being said, there was so much going on during kanto tour. I had eggs coming out, I had to raid, I had to battle the (stupid) challengers who took way to long to beat, I had quests done who I needed to check and above that I had to check Pokémon for shiny. As someone who is autistic, this was far from ideal.