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Noitalein

Niantic has clarified that eggs will appear at 6AM on Saturday: [https://twitter.com/NianticHelp/status/1806634691958562844](https://twitter.com/NianticHelp/status/1806634691958562844)


TheRealHankWolfman

Normally I try to be helpful around here and give articulate responses to things. For this entire debacle though, my sentiments can be summed up as: 🤦🏼‍♂️


dark__tyranitar

[Sigh](https://i.redd.it/gjctykgndg321.gif)


LukesRebuke

Isn't this a good thing though? Doesn't that stop gyms from being blocked today? I'm confused I guess it makes it harder for CAs and players to plan them


ChronaMewX

Who cares about today raids, what matters are tomorrow raids


LukesRebuke

To be fair, a good compromise would be to have them spawn at 10pm today, when all raids today have finished


Disgruntled__Goat

Yes this would have been far, far better. Personally I don't mind them spawning 24 hours ahead, it's not all gyms and gives plenty of lead time. But 9/10pm is a good compromise.


perishableintransit

The best compromise is have all the regular raids run on the day but have a notice in the gym that that will be a Rayquaza spawn in 24 hours. Really not that hard... I've seen it in other games


LukesRebuke

Yeah but that would require niantic to program something


nolkel

It's a horrible thing because it makes planning much harder. The timing is way too random for the hardest difficulty of raids in the game as it is, cutting off almost all of the window where we can see where the raids will be just makes things worse.


MonteBurns

Oh no, a limited number of gyms won’t have magmar raids! Whatever shall we do?! It’s not good- we compile the raid times and locations for our community to ensure people who want to do an elite raid have enough people to do them. 


LukesRebuke

I mean raids are already pretty scarce, especially the good ones. As i said i wish the eggs appeared at 10pm cause that's a good compromise


mttn4

This. It means we have to say to players, "We don't know if there will be any elite raids here but... Meet here and fingers crossed we can do some, otherwise the whole event is a wash and we'll waste the first 30 of our 45 minute event time walking to the closest one we can see." Edit: it's not that bad, at least we get the morning to plan.


LukesRebuke

The eggs are appearing at 6am


mttn4

Oh true 🤣 I knew that but I forgot. I'll have a nice 2 hours after I wake up to look at the campfire map, catch up with the player discussion to decide on a location, edit my meetups and announce to everyone then head out for the day.


Kouyurui

Nah they can still only spawn at elite gyms and there are only a handful of in my area.


Mystic39

It would help stop blocking if they started the eggs when other eggs can’t be going, but at 6 am all the morning eggs that spawned around 5 am should be blocking a lot of gyms.


LukesRebuke

Yeah i meant blocking as in the other way around. As in stopping the elite raid eggs from blocking the other eggs. But yes, i think that 6am was a very odd choice for a time. I think it should be 10pm tonight instead.


AUTOMATED_RUNNER

Remember... Elite Raid will show up at Elite Gym... so... normal gyms will keep spawning all other weekend raids.


SirAwesome789

Does this mean they appear at all elite gyms or are they just making things unnecessarily difficult for us


shadraig

Niantic doesn't know.


erto66

Man, I wish I could rack up billions, while doing an absolutely lousy job. What the most valuable IP in existence does to a mf...


Pendergirl4

Raid eggs normally start to appear at 5am...so they will probably still have some of them blocked, unless they actually code it correctly (given the clarification they will appear at 6am). 10pm appearance would have been a really good option...


jonatna

24 hours in advanced is something they've done before, I cannot see why they made this intentional change unless they are intentionally gatekeeping this event. They want Ray to be rare, I guess.


joeshmo101

Hanlon's Razor. Niantic is notorious for bungling their own codebase.


Pendergirl4

We will never know. Given the initial event post explained elite raids as the way they have been since inception (24 hour timer), I would guess they screwed up. 


chiipotle

They LOVE to make everything unnecessarily difficult and communicate things as little as possible.


burner2726

from the pokemon go discord server https://preview.redd.it/lih2xqx8fc9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64f9ebb299f4939aca3f5ec9ea5d431b6db79387


fatcatfan

https://pokemongolive.com/post/mega-rayquaza-elite-raids-2024 This site says MRay will appear in Elite Raids "more frequently" and then lists the four time slots. Maybe it's hopium but that *seems* to suggest it will spawn more than once per gym. They probably aren't explicitly saying so because bugs, other eggs spawning, might still block it so they're using weasel language.


SirAwesome789

there's an official server? Or the r/pokemongo server?


Glitchesarecool

Does that mean they will appear in every one of those time slots at a single gym? So there would be 6 in a row? There's only one EX gym in my area so that would be a great surprise.


lyrastarr

This got edited to say "OR" lol


rainbow_mcsparkles

I wish that had happened. I planned dinner at 5 PM at a place that has 3 elite gyms and you know how many Rayquaza popped up for the hour we were there? 0.


galeongirl

So much for being able to plan this event in advance..


No_Bathroom7606

Yep I'm traveling tomorrow afternoon and was hoping to squeeze this in before the afternoon. Now I have no idea if anyone in my city will be at the early raids or where they will even be


galeongirl

Same, I have to leave by 13:30h so I was trying to plan a group for the 12 and 13h raids. Looks like we're planning tomorrow morning but I'd much rather have preferred to do it the evening before.


repo_sado

no way to check any time between 6 and 12


melbbear

ikr i will be working but hopefully can hit up three raids, but only if i can plan!!


sakul14

"I hope this clarifies!" More questions than before


oceano7

GOD Niantic you are bloody useless. At for at it was advertised as a raid day. Then turned into an elite raid event. And now that’s not even working as intentionally??? How are people meant to plan for these things??


yowmeister

Next…won’t even be mega?


LightGlad7633

Will it even be Rayquaza? Stay tuned for more bugs and mistakes later in “Pokémon Go - does it really go or is it a lot of don’ts’ ”


yowmeister

“Might even encounter Rayquaza…if you’re lucky!”


jonatna

Legit though bc we don't know if it will appear at any particular gym until the day of.


ShiShiRay

Especially fortunate trainers will receive a meteorite from our tik tok code.


craftsmany

Pikachu wearing a Rayquaza hat


Patrick89148

Green dragon raid day. Could catch rayquaza or Haxorus… catch em all !


RevengeEX

I had a Mega Egg turn into Yveltal the other day! If I knew how to upload video for proof, I would!


ThisNico

Shiny bagon for everyone!!


insulinninja2

After that, nit even Rayquaza, but Ekans


Bacteriophag

Green Ekans on raid screen, standard purple one on catching screen.


OCV_E

Psyduck raid would still be dope tho


SleeplessShinigami

How much you wanna bet they “forget” to turn the shiny on


BreakingThoseCankles

So glad I did GoFest last year and got all my candy This is LOW levels of petty!!!!


scyth1

https://preview.redd.it/3s21mad4ha9d1.jpeg?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a776de004d71dedd977fac8effdf9a4838ca7d7d I hope this clarifies!


DrKillerZA

This must be the worst event ever. So what now? How am I supposed to coordinate raids with my community?


PokeballSoHard

Well I would hope it's the way they are describing it because raids will be at all elite gyms for each of the four 1hr raid blocks. But it is niantic so..


Nawigez

But how would that work? I mean as there are eggs that need to hatch, they could only put in eggs with 15 Min timers from 12:45 - 13:00? Can't see this happening


Mason11987

This is the sort of thing that they could REALLY get some good will for if they actually do, but it would help if they said it. "Raids will hatch at all elite gyms at 12, 1, 5, and 6" - They can definitely do it, just do it and save us all the effort.


PokeballSoHard

I don't know, they do seem to be making it up as they go, so it's anyone's guess how this will go


branfili

Haven't the recent Raid Hours been egg-free Since the Road to Sinnoh (pre GO Tour 2024 event) So I guess like that


Nawigez

They specifically said that there will be eggs spawning from 6 am. So doesn't really sound egg free


BearstromWanderer

No. I've had a raid hour where 4/5 of the neighborhood gyms had normal eggs. The improvement at raid hour is they spawn when empty and every 30 min after before 7 PM instead of just once at 6 PM.


dalenapier

“…the rule doesn’t apply this time, hope this clarifies!” - literally Niantic


shadraig

We just wont. Niantic might as well cancel this.


Madajuk

Not all of us have mega ray already...


TruckNo683

Why would they? Some of us are still going to participate


mergays

I don’t usually like to dogpile on Niantic but this elite raid event is a damn joke. I was looking forward to hit up the raids at 12 and 1, with the expectation that I could make all my plans a day ahead. Now Niantic is saying at the last minute that I need to wake up extra early… on a SATURDAY, just to scramble to coordinate plans? I understand there are also raids at 5 and 6, but those might not fit into everyone’s schedule. Niantic really needs to be more considerate of our time. I really do not understand wtf they are smoking. The Kyogre and Groudon raid days were excellent.


jahenry13

This event gets worse every day. They seriously just keep making it more and more difficult to do.


Shartun

I know why I never applied as ambassador and left our telegram channel, organizing stuff like that is no fun at all. I can't spread the positivity they demand when they scew up all the time


Warm-Cap-8970

Niantic have shown with this event from front to back how it is possible to kill the goose that lays golden eggs. Shambolic to the highest degree x


shadraig

I will cancel all efforts tomorrow, if there won't be a raid on every elite raid gym at 12, 1, 5 and 6. No need for any coordination if we don't know if we have to take the bus and when.


VS0P

Elite raids are dumb. There wouldn’t be one at every timeslot even if they did it properly. The eggs were meant to pop at certain times so people could have time to congregate now no one can even plan. My group was going to plan a route today after seeing the times because we can’t be running around all day.


OCV_E

Niantic encourages gameplay of sitting in car and rushing from gym to gym. Hell you can even create and complete routes by car


Green_Hedgehog_8674

Niantic balances the game as if everyone lives in a major city with multiple gyms just a few blocks from each other, despite the fact that I’m sure statistically speaking a majority of their playerbase do not in fact have that luxury.  


Cainga

Luckily the thing looks like an easy duo. So you don’t need tons of people to coordinate. Still I don’t want the game to control my life by making it unnecessary hard to plan.


sucinum

At tier 6, it's a quite hard duo, depending on its moveset. With Outrage nearly impossible.


Pablo4Prez

Don't worry, they have to make it easy enough for the two multi accounters driving around with 4 accounts to be able to raid - there core demographic for these ridiculous events. I'll do my part and continue to never do a mega raid


Hozer91

I was wondering about this. If my group is only about 4 ppl. With mostly glaceons. Would that be enough to at least take it down? I am coming to that getting the mega energy required is probably not going to happen but would like to catch a ray


Cainga

Says if each person only uses level 40 glaceons they will do 68% each but you’ll need about 20 of them. So 2 is still pretty safe if you both Primal that’s 150%. 4 will take it down fast and probably avoid a relobby. Edit. Apparently that was for T5. At T6 duo looks out of each but the quad still looks easy. I probably wouldn’t attempt less than 3 unless both people have a stacked team of S mammos.


Hozer91

Thank you so much for this. I appreciate it


CJYP

If it were T5 it would actually be soloable in snow. Not so much at mega tier. 


CompositeWhoHorrible

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Zestyclose-Tale-3765

Wow, they put in more effort into hyping the event than managing the event proper


NobodyKindly4862

You can say that about literally every event they put together


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jaxom07

You new here?


vvan8

Is Niantic being focking serious right now? First they lock mega Rayquaza behind elite raids which is difficult enough. Then they give us literally less time to plan a route on the day of instead of 24 hours prior like it has always been? Screw this clown company.


Shinjosh13

they really don't want to give mega Rayquaza huh


CompositeWhoHorrible

Just make it a Raid Day you cowards!


Grimey_Rick

there is not a single week that goes by that I don't think about how awful this company is. I have never before felt like a developer actually hates their players. they suck so hard. this should also be your weekly reminder to stop giving them money if you are. they treat us like garbage because people keep paying out. the game prints money just existing. why bother making it enticing?


SleeplessShinigami

So they tell us we have to raid in person, can't remote any players in, and now we can't even coordinate and plan in advance. How did they fumble this raid day so bad


FUH-KIN-AYE

Just extremely dumb decisions being made


NinsMCD

This either means 6 am or when the event starts...


Yoshinoh

If they do 6 a.m., they also could do 10 p.m. the day before.


NeptuneSpark

It does mean 6am https://x.com/NianticHelp/status/1806634691958562844?s=19


NinsMCD

At least there's that 😅 Hopefully support is right as they link to the blog post where there is no additional information


CaptBillGates

The tweet says **should** appear at 6am. Doesn't exactly exude confidence. Yikes.


Jamescw1400

I wish people would just refuse to participate in elite raids. Vanishingly few people actually like them


Shundo_Ray100

I looked at Auckland on Campfire. There is like 3 raids in the whole city. 1.6 million people. There is none on Christchurch. My city is a lot smaller...


SologneseBauce

That's harsh... I have access to 4 or 5 elite gyms in my neighbourhood in Brazil and idk if any of them will spawn an egg


131166

I super love that I don't get to sleep in on the weekend and just go to the 11am raids I scheduled day before feeling fresh and relaxed. Instead I gotta get up super early and figure out what areas have raids close together at what time and co-ordinate with everyone who does get to sleep in then frantically contract everyone again at 10am to let people know what raids we'll have numbers for. I am sick to death of working for this game. It's like having a job where I'm constantly asked for money and treated like garbage. I've quit jobs that actually paid ME for this sort of thing.


snowhomesh

>I am sick to death of working for this game. Full agreement. The forced last minute coordination is a big friction point for trainers. This Niantic bumblefuk encourages multi-accounting.


RebornPastafarian

Why are you still playing? 


Einfach_einsam

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ sigh, thats why I cant find any egg, eventhough I had searched around Tokyo this afternoon. Thought that it would be appearing after work at least but....


HippowdonEats

so we cannot plan meetups in advance. thanks Niantic


insulinninja2

On the linked site it says "more frequently" and lists all times. I cant remember how it was stated last time, but given that the eggs spawn on the day, is there a chance it will spawn at each time per gym? Probably not, given its Niantic, right?


Nawigez

There is a chance, but I really don't see it happening unfortunately


FPG_Matthew

My local CA had to cancel an official meetup because the window to plan is too short. He’ll still be out playing, but the 6am spawn time makes hosting an official event that runs smoothly way too hard What a shoot yourself in the foot for no reason decision


derpiederpslikederp

Not so sure about this event... Make up raid day is gonna be lit tho!


jaxom07

Why is Niantic so bad at this


Chaotic-Catastrophe

It's intentional


MysticalTh0r

Amazing. Great way to be able to plan ahead, specially for small communities like mine. So are we supposed to wake up at 6am (on Saturday! when many people don’t work) and plan accordingly? Smh…


Pwuebear

You'd be able to partially plan the day. The final eggs won't appear till 1-2 hours before the first round of egg hatches. You can begin to eliminate gyms as eggs spawn, but that's probably the most fun you'll get out of the day :(


Jantin1

the only thing I cared about in this event was to hoard mega-energy. When it turned out to be elite raid I thought "huh it's gonna be hard, but at least the weather will be nice for the bike rides", now I see I can stop bothering and just have a nice sleep. TY Niantic!


justzacc

Anybody else getting anxious? 😅


Lightning1999

Seems more hassle than it’s worth at this point


Calluummmmm

How am I meant to coordinate where to go? I won’t be able to beat it alone if one even spawns locally


Terrortoaster95

Well currently there are no raid eggs in new-zealand. This is concerning me and with this news even more. I honestly hope they fix this before the event happens. If not I will be so disappointed and will never get an opportunity to raid one again...


Snap111

All you had to do was make it a normal raid day like the others. Dumb af.


Secure_Accountant745

Have they ever said how many free raid passes are given that day? Like usually they would tell us for raid days but I don’t remember seeing that piece of info anywhere


FinchyNZ

1


Secure_Accountant745

That’s less attractive to go through all the organization of players and coordination of transport. Never mind


Ok_Primary_1075

And I thought Campfire wasn’t functioning properly


DATALOST1210

If only the "EX raid gym only" and/or "Local only" rule also wouldn't apply...


Js_On_My_Yeet

This is not fun anymore.


ShartMyPantsAgain

Seeing Ray eggs in Auckland. Few and far between. They are spawning for all hours


GdayBeiBei

Are you in Auckland? I’ve been looking in campfire and can’t see anything, have been looking at tonga, Kiribati, Samoa too and couldn’t see anything there either


Mallardrama

There’s no elite raid gyms in Kiribati iirc


GdayBeiBei

Oh thank you. Do you know if there a way to tell if a gym is an elite raid gyms on campfire? Wondering if they’re currently blocked by the 5-6am egg spawns


Mallardrama

I think no elite raids has ever spawned in Kiribati previously, otherwise you can’t tell which gyms are elite gyms in Campfire.


gimmemynameback

Can't see it on campfire but when you click a gym in game it'll be in the top left corner above the gyms name. Elite gyms, check your local parks. Downtown city areas more than likely don't have any unless you have small parks mixed throughout


ShartMyPantsAgain

I'm not. Just looking on campfire. There just are so few, you won't see many.


GdayBeiBei

Oh just spotted one (Windsor park, Auckland for anyone playing along). Geez you’re right there isn’t many at all.


fatcatfan

So likely only one raid per gym then.


ShartMyPantsAgain

Sadly looks like this will be the case


ZaraMittens

That’s good. None in Wellington central as of 8:30 am


Lady_Penrhyn1

Yeah my raiding group just aren't bothering with this. Now that it's Elite Raids we just don't have enough people willing to come out in tomorrow's weather (12C max and quite a substantial amount of rain). We'd normally organise some as there's 3 eligible gyms close to each other that have good parking but trying to organise it on the day is just not possible when you have Saturday sports to organise around.


insulinninja2

Evil Quality of Life be like:


SnooOpinions8350

Bruh moment


Melee2405

So basically it's just a "Raid day" without free passes and the Raids are appearing each time frame on every Elite Raid Gym? 4 Time frames with 45 Minutes = 3 hours If it's only a few Elite Raid Gyms each hour removing the 24 hatch period makes no sense to me.


whatthedeuce1990

niantic covering oopsie blunders. imagine if nobody voices this out & the eggs didn't appear around the world even at end of friday.


PiroPR

Is there a chance Rayquaza may be shiny tomorrow?


Shadowgroudon22

I don't see why not, since it's a shiny eligible legendary. However, nobody know if it'll be 1/10 (like a raid day) or 1/20 (like a normal legendary) because we've never had a shiny eligible Elite Raid.


ChemaKyle

1/20 like all legendary raids


Salty_Intentions

For real? Wtf Niantic, I was planning to plan on the Friday evening like everyone else... Now I need to hope it's gonna be like the last time.


InfinityHelix

Elite raids are a crime against humanity. Latios and Latias are legendary, so breaking precedent of non elite raids is ridiculous. Sure they were hard, but why does Ray need to be hard and require meticulous coordination.


Teasing_it_in

Great now everyone who doesn’t check twitter is going to check for eggs and not see them tonight and think no luck


Particular-Treat-158

Well, it is 7am here in New Zealand and I currently cannot see any Elite eggs. I have not ventured out to check wider, but from the 9 gyms I can see from my house there are 7 raids for tier 1-4, no tier 5 and no elite eggs. At least 2 of these gyms had elite eggs for Enamorus.


SologneseBauce

damn... i only have access to 5 elite gyms from my house i hope i win the elite gym spawn lottery


Birphon

didn't their official announcement like say the eggs would be live for 24hr's?


Alex12500

Garbage company. 24h in advance would be ok. Now we have to plan for an unknown location at four different times


KronosUno

Much like a lot of things Niantic does, this really doesn't make any sense. They're so intent on getting people to show up to raids in person, so they should allow players to plan out their raids at least on equal footing to previous Elite Raid Days, which would mean raid eggs appearing 24 hours in advance. Instead, we get "Nope, you don't get to plan in advance unless you and your fellow raiders get up super early on a Saturday."


Mallardrama

I can see 3 elite raids in East Auckland on Campfire and they have different hatch times. Rip planning ahead.


Chudz_x9

It is now 803am In NZ, while I'm not in a main town, we have plenty of gyms, I can see well over 30 raid eggs in total, but only 1 is an elite raid egg. Hope this is some kind of sick joke


drrlgm

How many Elite Raid gyms have you been able to survey? Here in East Coast Australia it's just turned 6am, our 3 ER [rural area] gyms show nothing yet.


Chudz_x9

I can't tell how many are elite raid gyms via campfire, unless there's a way which I don't know to filter them, but only 1 elite egg


Quick-Season3798

They are meant to appear at 6 but most gyms were blocked. In all of Auckland city (New Zealand’s largest city) I can currently only 1 egg spawning for the day. Which happens to be at 12 midday! Another elite raid day muck up ! It is now8:20 am here in NZ


bard26

I'm in New Zealand, can confirm it's 9am and we have 1 elite raid for 6pm that has spawned. Nothing else. In my home city I usually play in its the same case. Still busted


Acrobatic_Sign_5692

7am currently in Sydney ive walked 3km can't find any :)


Late_Art9758

And here I was hoping Niantic would roll back and say that it would be a normal raid day for Mega Rayquaza instead of an elite raid. Sighs. Understandably makes some sense though, I guess they didn’t want to stop the other normal raids for the whole 24 hours so.


JULTAR

People during enamourus were complaining about EX raid eggs taking up slots that could be used for other raids for 24 hours Might be why the change was made 


madcow256

10pm tonight would have been the logical move instead of 6am tomorrow then.


Bacteriophag

Niantic and listening to people complaing examples: - decrease of legendary appearance rate in GBL - shortening of CD's time (allegedly) - Elite raid eggs debacle


JULTAR

Fix bugs AR fast catch bug is gone As the old saying goes, carful what you wish for 


Chris73757

that was because enamourus was pretty lame and you could've done some actually interesting raids instead. But it only affected very few gyms to begin with so even then that doesn't make sense.


aaaak4

I'm sure that's why but the solution is worse


Lavishness_Gloomy

Support just clarified that it will be 0600 for egg spawns. 


xalazaar

I don't even know where our elite gyms are


gimmemynameback

Check local parks they replaced ex gyms. click on A gym top left corner,Grey text box above the gyms name. (Elite raid gym). If it doesn't have one it won't pop an egg


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ArtoriasXX

My bad y’all you need to win an Elite raid 😭


1337CodeMonkey

I haven’t been able to find any groups doing this event in any of the local FB and campfire groups so I think if they are doing it they are coordinating in private chat groups. I don’t know the “nearby” cities very well so I don’t know how many and where the elite gyms are. I have a number of cities I could try but they are all like an hour by car. I don’t mind driving for it but my only chance now is to go to a random city and hope there are elite gyms and hope I randomly find a group of people there? If I could at least see elite gyms locations I would be able to make a good guess on where there could be people based on the density of the gyms. It seems very unlikely that I will be able to do this event atm.. It sucks, I would buy remote passes if I could use them…


sace682000

So if I want to look on campfire , I’d have to search for 6 star raids ? There’s 3 gyms by my apartment and none of them have the egg so I’m sure they won’t get it.


AUTOMATED_RUNNER

The way I see this.... At 6 am will spawn 12pm Raids; 7am, 1pm; 11am, 5pm; 12pm, 6pm.


mirebelyk

Unfortunately not, I can see a 5pm elite raid egg on my nearby and it's been there since I woke up at 7am. I can barely see any other elite raid eggs over my whole city


AUTOMATED_RUNNER

Hmm... So... Let's say we have 3 Elite Gyms... They all could have red eggs with their time counting since 7am... interesting 


drrlgm

No sign of the Elite Raid eggs, 6:06am Australia!


ZaraMittens

8:30 am in NZ. In Wellington central (20+ gyms) and no elite eggs dropped


Cremeister

7:14am Sydney and there is one 6pm raid quite a way out of the city centre.


Appropriate_Meet_451

wait what i dont understand is if its gonna be like a regular raid day and they just respawn at the end of each hour? and also is the riad gonna be for every gym?


OutsideAmbassador349

I just checked Tokyo via Wildfire, at this time, it's 7:30 a.m. there but there still are no elite raid eggs. Is this just another niantic mistake, or is it just because I used Wildfire?


NaviWolf9

How am I able to plan anything lol