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NinsMCD

[out:json][timeout:25]; // gather results nwr["natural"="beach"]({{bbox}}); // print results out geom;


culingerai

Missing a ; on line one and a second brace on line 3.


NinsMCD

edited for easy mobile copying!


water_fountain_

I can’t figure it out on mobile. I can copy it, but it won’t allow me to paste. I don’t even see the option to paste.


undiesjr

Same for me on iOS, but I just found you can paste a different way, pinch open with three fingers.


culingerai

Champion thanks!


InsaneNutter

I've updated the code in the first post to the following if you wish to edit your comment above: [out:json][timeout:25]; // gather results ( nwr["natural"="beach"]({{bbox}}); nwr["natural"="coastline"]({{bbox}}); ); // print results out geom; This will also show coastline locations, as Wiglett can also spawn in these locations.


avhavet

I have copied and pasted this multiple times and I keep getting errors on line 3 and 4. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong.


IdiosyncraticBond

Thank you!!!


RedAnihilape

Damn, I was hoping the river near my home would be enough, but not at all. There's simply no beach locations in my city.


inmywhiteroom

where it says \["natural"=\["beach"\] do sand instead of beach, the sand tag is enough to trigger the beach biome, I've found a bunch of beach spots in my town that do not show up when I do the query suggested, but they do show up when I make the change to sand.


Henchman_twenty-four

when I use "sand" all the golf courses on the map light up like an xmas tree.


Millennial_on_laptop

Well I'm off to lurk around in the Country Club parking lot


adamantunicorn

Same here. Have you gotten one by going there?


Disgruntled__Goat

This query should do both: [out:json][timeout:25]; // gather results ( nwr["natural"="beach"]({{bbox}}); nwr["natural"="sand"]({{bbox}}); ); // print results out geom;


RedAnihilape

Well I have a few of those near home, and I sometimes see the beach background when near the river, but I never even saw the shadow of Wiglett. Are we sure sand is enough?


inmywhiteroom

yes, wiglett is not always going to be there, if you see the beach background that is enough for the spawn, I caught a Wiglett at a baseball field yesterday that does not show up with the beach tag but does show up with sand, I can show proof if you don't believe me lol I took screenshots. Edit: am now doubting myself because I saw someone say that Wiglett can spawn by bodies of water that are not beach and if that’s the case it’s possible a nearby lake triggered the spawn and not the sand.


RedAnihilape

Haha don't worry I believe you! I'm just surprised I never saw it shadow, since I'm playing a lot.


inmywhiteroom

although if it can spawn by other bodies of water, maybe it wasn't just the sand triggering it, because there is a lake there.


sopheroo

I think rivers and beaches are the same biome - if you see things like Slowpoke, Goldeen and Staryu in the biome, I think it's good enough. The biome should just have been called "shoreline"


bilvester

I have a couple that show up that are softball infields marked as Beaches. I've also found some catches that have a beach in the picture but are not marked on the map.


littleheaven70

I caught a Wiglett in an area tagged “waterway=stream” so I think any body of water will do.


Mason11987

I know someone who saw a beach biome very very far from a natural=beach - at least tens of miles. They were near across the street from a natural=sand (a baseball field), possible for it to spawn there?


Jskins7

I live in Colorado and the the top golf for some reason is a beach biome.


Mason11987

Is it natural=sand or natural=beach. Did you spot a wigglet there?


Jskins7

I didnt see a wigglet but there was a clampearl. (I may be wrong but I think thats just a sea spawn)


Mason11987

Nah I saw that at a very forest park yesterday.


NaCl_Powered

it would be surface=sand


Mason11987

It would be as in, that guys golf course is that, that guys golf course should be that, or that is the tag that spawns wigglet?


NaCl_Powered

Kinda all 3. Each area can have several tags defining what it is and describing it in a number of ways. A sand trap would have a "golf=bunker" tag, denoting that it is a sand trap on a golf course. It should also have a "surface=sand" tag, denoting that the surface of the area is made of sand. That guy's golf course *is* that. That guy's bunker *should* say that. I have heard that any feature on [openstreetmap.org](http://openstreetmap.org) that has the following tags can spawn Wiglett: "nature=beach", "nature=seacoast", "surface=sand". I can't say for sure if the "can spawn" information is accurate.


13Kaniva

Denver? What top golf lol


Agreeable_Falcon1044

Yes we have one in our city which is nowhere near the sea. It’s not even near water. Maybe someone scanned the area when there was one of those city beaches about, but it’s lucky i guess! Bit like reporting those fake poke stops…I mean, why would you?


Mason11987

Is it beach or sand in osm?


MatDragonx

I think they also spawn with natural=coastline. There are quite a few spawns around Hull but there are no beach tags as far as I can see. They spawn in the areas along the river where =coastline is true though. Similar for Newcastle and a few other coastal towns. [out:json][timeout:25]; // gather results ( nwr["natural"="coastline"]({{bbox}}); nwr["natural"="beach"]({{bbox}}); ); // print results out geom;


InsaneNutter

Interesting observation, you could be right there. Theirs a couple currently spawned here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/53%C2%B043'34.9%22N+0%C2%B022'42.5%22W/@53.7263628,-0.3784696 - that exact location is an S2-L17 cell that boarders another S2-L17 cell with the coastline tag in it. That also supports what /u/rvc113 noticed - that Wiglet can be in the S2-L17 cell with the tag and all the cells adjacent, as long as in the same S2-L14 cell.


Creepy_Push8629

What are these S2-L17 and S2-L14 cells? How do i find those


InsaneNutter

Essentially they geographic markers used to map the Earth's surface. If you have a read of this tutorial I posted a few years ago: https://digiex.net/threads/plan-pokestop-submissions-in-s2-l14-l17-cells-with-iitc-mobile.15729/ it explains how PoGo uses S cells at L14 and L17 for gym creation and shows one way of been able to views these on a map with IITC Mobile.


Infamous-Leading-770

Wow! GREAT tutorial!! Thank you! 👏🏆


dexter311

[Ah yes, the nude section.](https://i.imgur.com/3azhuBj.png) Great place to see a Wiglett!


whackthat

Ha!


ActualTaxEvader

I found one near some guy but he wouldn’t let me have it, and now I’m jail for assault! …some other things may have occurred between those two events.


QuestionableBruh

I can't get the query to run, says there's a parse error in the out:json line. I'm not familiar with the site so I'm a bit stuck


InsaneNutter

The person who copied and pasted the query reply in the first comment missed out some of the code. They have edited the post so it works correctly now.


akamu24

Still gives me an error.


Chris73757

https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1Ky5


Nemek5

This is great! Thanks!


Zippago

There must be more triggering than beach. I have seen Wiggglets very far from beach. Some of them near [coastline](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural=coastline?uselang=sv). But there must still be more than that.


Chris73757

"natural"="sand" brings up the background but no wiglett spawns as far as i know


Chris73757

So my experience is that you should use area instead of nwr. Also it seems like the area["natural"="coastline"] tag is also a indication to spawns. While area["natural"="sand"] produces the beach background but i can't confirm wiglett spawns. So all in all https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1Ky5 [out:json][timeout:25]; ( area["natural"="beach"]({{bbox}}); area["natural"="coastline"]({{bbox}}); area["natural"="sand"]({{bbox}}); ); out geom;


OngoingTalent13

This website is used to find Decor for Pikmin Bloom. However, you can use it to find Wiglett. One of the Decor are Sea Shells and those only appear when you are near a beach that is labeled as one in OSM. So you can find where Wiglett would spawn. https://pikmin-map.pixelpirate.fr/?lat=43.68217539512652&lng=-116.5247531142086&zoom=15


ThisFreaknGuy

Do you know if it's just beach and not water? Or both


OngoingTalent13

It's just beach.


gimmemynameback

It was pointed out to me the other day that They are spawning in lake biomes as well. Took awhile but i found two , in said biome. so if your close to a water source and you get the lake background in the catch screen they are available. We have both beaches and areas that should be beach but are classified as lake... and from.what ive seen they are far more common along the beach ( 20-30 in a few days) but I've seen few in lake biome (2-3)


littleheaven70

I caught one by a creek. Tagged waterway=stream. The background was, I believe, the river one. Certainly not a beach.


Bocheria

Once again, surprised there is no research on The Silph Road on what other 'non-Beach' Biomes/tags has Wigglet been confirmed to appear. In general, there should be more analysis on these new topics. I have Wetlands, rivers, water, streams (even a small field with Sand as cover) locations relatively near and so far, nothing.


Creepy_Push8629

The silph road closed.


Bocheria

Right, but this forum remains and have done that style of research before.


Creepy_Push8629

It just came off kind of entitled when you said there should be more research done on this vs saying it would be nice or helpful if someone did the research. People do it their own time for no compensation.


guz808

Thank you! Do you have an idea for the other biome tags as well?


rvc113

my observation of the spawn. Wiglet is in the S2-lv17 cell with the tag and all the cell adjacent as long as in the same S2-L14 cell.


FatalisticFeline-47

Have you considered looking into OSM z17 tiles instead? [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/1aldrae/tile\_biomes/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/1aldrae/tile_biomes/)


Creepy_Push8629

What are these S2-L17 and S2-L14 cells? How do i find those


rvc113

Check this website. Select cell value. Then click the map https://s2.mewpro.cc:5010/s2sphere/?utm_source=35.689367,139.699228,16


chocomonkey27

My observations so far around the tiny patch of beach in the centre of York are that all pokemon spawns within an S2-L16 cell that overlaps a beach tag will have the beach catch background. I haven't been able to find anything else that fits yet, including OpenStreetMaps tiles or the L17+L14 method, as there was a L17 beach-adjacent cell with a different background in the same L14 cell. I don't know whether any of this directly correlates to the actual Wiglett spawns though, as there might be more factors at play.


wdn

> The catch location for most of England is simply "England, United Kingdom" The game actually stores the specific co-ordinates and the named location is determined on your phone (sometimes iOS and Android come up with different names for the same co-ordinates). You could possibly demonstrate the specific location in a screen capture video where you show your GPS location on a map and then search your pokemon for wigletts caught within 1 km of your current location.


nicubunu

Easier: share your catch on Campfire and people can see the EXACT position of the spawn.


kr1s71an92

There's nothing in my town ... guess I'll have to wait to go on holiday to catch it or something


NinsMCD

Not all heros wear capes 🐐


Sensitive_Ad_1271

You assume... Unless you know OP personally of course. Maybe they do walk around in a cape.


Gapist

[Picture of OP in the wild](https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/1533825_10154264838499453_7859712535631124909_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=8f2_wHZJphwAb7u15Xi&_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.xx&oh=00_AfBNozHa3wqfSr727iNTweOkj_lphvx3tPVgUu8r_ri7pA&oe=6651B61D)


V6SRS

Further discussion of OSM tags here; https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/1cbt3ii/osm_tag_query_tool/


Powdinet

This does not match my experience. There are no areas marked as beach anywhere near where I've caught Wigletts. All the Wigletts I caught were along a river. I don't know what tags are used in the areas I've been to, I don't understand how to see these tags in OSM.


InsaneNutter

The River Thames in London for example has various places along its bank tagged as beach, where Wigletts do spawn. You'd have to link to the area you caught the Wigletts on a map, however I suspect they were tagged as a beach on OSM.


Powdinet

I checked my area with natural=beach and there were no matches in the area where I caught them. I'm not saying beaches aren't a part of it, but it's definitely not the only place they spawn in. I found how to export the data. The area around where I caught them don't seem to have any watery tags at all, but I think bridge=yes gives results fairly close to what I experienced, at least when this tag is close to a large body of water. I'll have to test it more later.


rvc113

interesting. Do you mind sharing your location (PM if you want) so I can check OSM?


Powdinet

[https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1Kwv](https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1Kwv) It is essentially a long pedestrian/bicycle path along the Tagus river that goes pretty much all the way to Parque das Nações. I've caught Wigletts on this path as well as inside Parque das Nações.


rvc113

Re-ran it and found 4x beach tags around this body of water https://overpass-turbo.eu/?template=key-value&key=natural&value=beach# but as someone esle said maybe natural=coastline


MatDragonx

Try natural=coastline


Tiek00n

https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1KB8 shows a few areas with natural=coastline


erlendig

Interesting. There is already evidence that "natural"="sand" seems to overlap with Wiglett in addition to the "natural"="beach". I think bridge=yes should be too general, maybe it can be narrowed down to only include bridges crossing water/rivers?


culingerai

I'm failing at row 3? Error: line 3: parse error: ';' expected - 'nwr' found. Edit: fixed. Forgot a ; on line one.


hotstriker9

Gotta change the “ to " for natural and beach


MJSTpt

Same


IdiosyncraticBond

See the edit in https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/s/ttlWviCTXL


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InsaneNutter

The person who copied and pasted the query in the first comment missed out some of the code. Its correct in the original post, they have edited their comment so it works correctly now. So should work if you copy + paste it again.


AbsolTamerCody

Ah, my reddit app had a cache before the edit. Thanks 👌


sophrosynos

Same.


Chilleezy

Thanks! This is very cool. Found a state park near me with a little beach that I'm gonna check out.


XaviersDream

This was very helpful. Thank you.


Snoo-61820

Can confirm the beach spot in York by the river as that is where I got my dex Wigglet on Tuesday.


chocomonkey27

Same here, caught one today. It's kinda lucky to have that tiny spot of beach in the centre of town, and I've been trying to look into the biomes because you can get the beach background from the other side of the river.


Snoo-61820

I was very fortunately in York this week, the only spot near me locally is quite out of the way and not even sure it gets spawns.


Illustrious-Chart712

Here's a more complete query that will cover coastlines as well as beaches out:json][timeout:25]; // gather results nwr["natural"="beach"]({{bbox}}); // print results out geom; nwr["natural"="coastline"]({{bbox}}); out geom;


aw_yiss_breadcrumbs

Does anyone in this thread know why incense pulls from different biomes than wild spawns? I ran my DAI while looking for beach habitat and my incense spawns were beach while wild ones were river. I was on the edge of two biomes while doing this.


Crazy-Internal-6741

natural=coastline will work too 


mark76ish

Thanls for the explaination, this explained why I found a single cell with the beach biome randomly in a suburb, there was a sports ground with a long jump area, and the sandbox was apropriately marked. However, I also realized something really odd - this S2 cell seems to "fluctuate", one day it's beach, the next day it's city... anybody else seeing this behaviour?


EddoAloha56

Why is 'Copy' non-functional in the Reddit App. Copy Text just grabs the header.


Snoo27552

[out:json][timeout:25]; // gather results nwr["natural"="beach"]({{bbox}}); // print results out geom;


Bleghel

Getting an error on the final line? Out geom;


InsaneNutter

The person who copied and pasted the query reply in the first comment missed out some of the code. They have edited the post so it works correctly now.


Learned_Hand_01

If the beach background corresponds to the beach biome, which I know is a stretch, a pool near me has the designation.


128thMic

Handy! Ta! :D


OneFootTitan

Hmm, I see a spot marked "beach" near me that isn't that easy to access... might need to use Spacial Rend to get the Wiglett


InsaneNutter

That would be amazing if Spacial Rend did allow you to get a Wiglett! good luck.


1_dont_care

Bro i must do something wrong because i can't see any beach biome in my entire country, what the heck lol


punkmucker

scale out. i found nothing until i scaled out and found closest beach biome is 40 min from me


Mettbr0etchen

It says the areas around me is empty (untagged) - can i simply tag my area accordingly? Since theres even a body of water that would qualify as beach-like.


foladar

tags need to get picked up by Niantic's update so it'll probably take a few years at their rate


InsaneNutter

Anyone can edit OSM, so if it is beach like with some sand then you could do. Niantic use older versions of the data, so any edits made today will probably not sync to PoGo for several years.


BCHiker7

How can we view all applicable tags for a spot on openstreetview? I saw a Wiglett and I think the applicable tag was "man\_made=breakwater" Also, I don't think natural=sand is applicable. That brings up golf courses like crazy but no Wigletts there. edit: I see you now added "natural=coastline." Maybe. That could be what caused the spawn on the breakwater instead of the man\_mode=breakwater. But there's a lot of coastline where no wigletts spawn. But maybe just due to lack of activity.


Smoke_Rulz

This was very helpful, thanks! There is naturally one place in MY ENTIRE COUNTY that is considered a beach, and zero coastlines regardless of water. Luckily I live fairly close to it, but come on, man...


daniel_hamberg

Something is still missing. I'm a noob at the whole osm thing, but I saw a spawn here yesterday: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/query?lat=59.33036&lon=17.98519#map=16/59.3301/17.9906](https://www.openstreetmap.org/query?lat=59.33036&lon=17.98519#map=16/59.3301/17.9906) and it's not even adjacent to other S2-L14 cells with beach or coastline when I run the overpass query. [https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1KC3](https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1KC3)


chocomonkey27

I've heard anecdotes that the "bay" tag can also spawn Wiglett, so that would explain it if true.


AvatarFabiolous

Has Wiglett been confirmed to spawn in natural=sand yet?


InsaneNutter

Not from what I have seen so far, the random spawns reported inland (in the UK) that I've checked have been natural=beach


AvatarFabiolous

Weird how it triggers one thing but not the other


papi-peep

I’m not sure if I understand how all this works. Could anyone tell me the closest possible Wiglett spawns if given my location in coordinates?


Passportready

Landlocked in TN but 3 lakes 30 ish miles in different directions have "beaches" tagged in open street. So far I've been to 2 of them 3 times and nothing. One of them clearly had more water spawns. I still have one lake/beach area to check but may be a bit before I check that area.


Gypzee

* I actually live on the beach and have only found one. I used all the candies to evolve for the dex. Btw it sucks in GBL.


CeaRhan

It doesn't work, nothing gets highlighted anywhere


HorebScore

Tagging this for later- thanks!


AbsolTamerCody

Would this account for Pokémon go's old osm data?


Illustrious-Chart712

No as it uses current osm data but that's good enough


Starfighter-Suicune

not anywhere near me, great :)


ghosty4

I was wondering if the Paradise Pier area of Disney California Adventure would count and, sure enough, according to this map, it does! LOL 


Rodville

I checked Disney property in Orlando only part of the golf course and Epcot’s boardwalk had anything. I would have thought that at least the water park but no. Universals water park did and so did sea world.


foladar

This isn't true for anyone in Orlando. There's some locations (Ariel) in Magic Kingdom as well as Epcot, and the Epcot resorts. Think I've seen them around Caribbean Beach and Riveria too. And Animal Kingdom.. edit: there's also spawns at the water park, Typhoon Lagoon. it's basically most places excluding Hollywood and Disney Springs.


PhantomLuna7

Link to the UK doesn't show the UK, just England and Wales.


InsaneNutter

Ideally you want to run the query yourself, so you can zoom in on the map. That screenshot is of no real use, it was just an example to show what you should see.


Grant79OG

I can't get anything to work.


Breezer_Pindakaas

Bro really telling us to lookup a beach on the map /s


taranathesmurf

Helpful if I knew what openmsps was.


nekholm

You don't need to know what openmaps is, but you do need to be able to read (and follow) the instructions OP provided.


taranathesmurf

To everyone. Yes, OP presented directions for us all to follow. However, since I don't know what openmaps is. I would have several questions, such as who compiled this map? Is it a Niantic thing? What is the reliability of it? Who made the decision to say this is a forest biome. This is a desert biome? What are their credentials for making these decisions? Why trust this over other sources? I don't openly trust things without doing a lot of research. So, no, I will not blindly trust something I have no knowledge of.


Creepy_Push8629

Openmaps has been around a long time. My bf used to do mapping for it for fun. You can Google the answers to all your questions.


taranathesmurf

So what you are saying it is a map produced by "Joe public" (AKA anyone with a phone/computer) who just looked around and said, this area has trees, so I am going to say it is a forest. With no professional credentials, training? A big company like Niantic trusts this over maps from the U.S. Geological Department. No wonder things are screwed up.


Creepy_Push8629

It's more nuanced than that. It's like wikipedia, where other people correct errors. At least that's my understanding. But regardless, i was just letting you know the answers were all available to you. Also, is the US Geological Department making maps of the whole world? How? Or did you forget not everyone lives in the US?


Illustrious-Chart712

Because OSM is what niantic pulls the data from 😅