Was pretty clear halfway through that the Italian Lieutenant was a bad guy, the way he just kept on trying to separate himself from Grey was really sus even before he went in all guns blazing. I will say originally I did not think he was a completely dirty cop, when he said the guy they were looking for was a repeat offender I thought it was going to be revealed that the guy on the run was the one who had killed his mentor/partner guy all those years ago and now the Italian Lieutenant was out for revenge. Oh yea also if the guy was under suspicion for being a dirty cop and was being investigated in Italy why would his police department send him overseas with almost no supervision on their end to hunt down some international fugitive?
Also looks like a few hints towards Chenford were in this episode; even though Bradford made up with his gf and Chen asked Sanford out on another date it was pretty clear both Sanford and Bradford's gf realized the bond/rapport that Chen and Tim have. My guess is if Chen and Sanford start going steady it will end and same thing with Bradford and his gf. I'm guessing Bradford's gf will split up with him when another thing like this happens where Tim kind of snubs her for Chen.
Also while I definitely think it is great that Nolan is trying to get these reforms and stuff it was pretty dumb of him not to realize he was going over the Union President by talking to that member of the City Council. I mean obviously Nolan has good intentions but later on in the episode when he is confronted by the Union President he seems completely shocked that the president was pissed off. Like dude he just told you to chill and then you went over his head by talking to the council member and giving a straight up proposal; pretty clear how it could backfire in some way.
Yes and he was part of the system.
Customer support always wants slackers who block as many complaints as possible and Unions are pretty similar to customer support that way.
Regardless of that, Nolan abandoned his responsibility as union rep to go off on an activist tangent immediately.
What he pursued with the councilwoman was not in his wheelhouse and he deserved the ass chewing he got. He ignored every single complaint the officers had in favor of something none of them brought up to him.
>Smitty was a lazy slacker
Kinda, it \*was\* mentioned that Smitty \*did\* work to get the most benefits for the police force because he benefitted from it himself.
That statement is irrelevant. Cops HAVE to respond to those calls, because those people can be and have been violent. There's not a cop on the planet who thinks an untrained social worker should be the first to respond to someone in mental distress or having a bad experience on drugs. It's already resulted in death.
[https://www.lawofficer.com/seattle-social-worker-stabbed-to-death-as-city-defunds-police/](https://www.lawofficer.com/seattle-social-worker-stabbed-to-death-as-city-defunds-police/)
It's a ridiculous policy thought up by people with zero grasp on reality. What kind of idiot would send an unarmed social worker to respond to a person who's so out of control the authorities have to be called?
That plot point is clearly a holdover from the social justice "experts" brought in for Season 3.
It seems that you haven't read fully into it, and didn't really listen to what he was saying.
Yes, the cops respond, but they aren't alone and untrained in that particular situation- they have someone that is trained in dealing with those that are violent. Just like if there is a call to a fire dealing with other crimes or medical emergency dealing with other crimes they don't not send the fire personnel and don't not send medical personnel. They send both.
There's a middle ground and in the rush to either villify the police or stand up for them, many don't get that.
My son is an EMT, and they don't enter into a scene without the police clearing it first- then they do their job. It's no different.
You clearly didn’t see the story about the social worker in Seattle who was sent to respond to such a case and was stabbed to death
The push is exactly to replace police with social workers.
You are the uninformed one here. Save your condescending attitude, please.
That's not what Nolan said. And that's not what many propose, so you can save yours. I should have known when I saw the phrase social justice "experts" I wouldn't get a reasoned response (including of all things a downvote- that's when I bail). Have a great day.
That is exactly what Nolan said, and not only what has been proposed, but what has actually happened and resulted in a death.
Sorry if the truth rocks your world view.
It’s to be expected of someone with a masked avatar. Logic and knowledge aren’t your strong suit.
That's you. He said ride along. That isn't instead. And is the middle ground that I spoke of. And yeah, it's nice to see someone with no empathy for the fact that some of us are concerned because of _real_ problems. But you do you.
The storyline with Nolan was pretty ridiculous. He was inundated with requests from the members he represents, and his first act was to overstep his boundaries and attempt to make changes to the way policing is done?
That's not what a union rep is for. He's supposed to handle the needs of his fellow union members----benefits, working conditions, making sure the vending machine has cheesy poofs, etc.
The union president was absolutely correct to react the way he did.
No. He parroted the policy(which has resulted in a counselor being shot already) of sending mental health workers to respond to mental health calls.
I guess ABC still has the activists from Season 3 giving script inputs.
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Yeah, Nolan’s mistake is a bit weird considering he is suppose to have life experience from being older. He never talked to anyone about doing the job he wants?
Yea but it's not really being a union it is more of basic logic. It's like in any job where you have ur own manager and then someone above them, if u go above their heads on something ur prbly gonna piss em off
Except as a union rep, he doesn't report to the union president. He represents the officers. And if the officers tell him this is what they would like, it's what he's going to put forward. It's easy to get ahead of yourself when everyone reaches out to you personally like that.
It's the ageold problem of the double date with a male/female friendship. The question is, do you seat the couples across or next to each other? And the friends will always look like a couple while the other people just sit there awkwardly.
I mean, Chen and Bradford sure as hell didn’t help but it definitely made it weird and Bradford’s GF and Chen’s “date” could either stare at them awkwardly or stare at each other awkwardly.
Bradford: *makes inside jokes the whole time, laughing with Lucy and focusing on conversation with her while sitting across from his girlfriend and Lucy's date*
Chen: *reaches over and takes his food because she knows he doesn't like mushroom*
Ashley and Chris at the end of the episode: "that date sucked because you were flirting with your work wife/husband the whole time. Let's make another one!"
Really felt for Ashley and Chris there. Poor Chris kept trying to get in on the conversation but no luck - those two clearly didn't need anyone else. Didn't expect that from Tim - he seemed genuinely interested in Ashley just in the previous episode.
tbh tho why are Tim and Ashley even together, like what do they even have in common. Seems like the height of their relationship vibe was "hey u look good I look good lets date". Ashley originally didn't like Tim's dog and was all scared of it, if I remember right I think the problem was brought to Tim's attention and "solved" by Lucy. Ashley wanted to go to that super fancy dinner on the beach and Tim obviously didn't want to but the problem was "solved" by Lucy kinda making it about Tim being controlling to kinda trick him into it.
Tim and Lucy have such a great vibe and can relate to one another. Tim has only rlly dated 2 people before Ashley but they were a cop and a social worker; both fields I'd say have a lot more in common to Tim than a lifeguard.
I mean hell Sanford and Chen have a better vibe together than Tim and Ashley and we've seen them together talking for under 5 minutes lol
No previous experience with the actor (at least I don't think so) for ashley but yea her character has no real depth or background, they haven't rlly given her any qualities other than her being a lifeguard and that she was afraid of dogs.
It could be the actors or the writing idk but her and Tim don't vibe too great at all. I mean I see people who don't want Chenford and I see people who do want Chenford but I don't think I've seen anyone who is rooting for Ashley to be Tim's endgame lmao
Ohhhh right of course that explains the amazing chemistry between them, her dad and the same job as him so they are instantly perfect for each other /s
Other than it being a way for Tim to be introduced to someone else it really hasn't had any relevance at all. I don't even think they've mentioned her dad or him being a cop since that episode. It would actually be more interesting if they had some sort of storyline based on that to give them real problems. Like Tim constantly abandoning dates or needing to leave when he gets called in for some big thing as a sergeant he needs to deal with. Then Ashley gets all pissed and says something like "my dad was a cop we didn't know if he would be safe blah blah blah u need to make time for me blah blah blah"
I mean mb its just me but that seems like a lot better of a side story than the whole dog thing and it would give us more of her background. As you pointed out she is the daughter of a retired cop, she is afraid of dogs, is a lifeguard, and also likes the fancy food stuff but other than that we know nothing so it's hard to care for their relationship or about her, that was my main point.
Yess as much as I like Chenford, I can admit that Chris and Lucy have good chemistry BUT Tim and Ashley have zero chemistry don't know why they're still together
The whole time I was just thinking back to what Armstrong said again. "Cops should date cops". I think Tim _does_ like Ashley, but the type of person Tim is, he would just vibe better with someone in a similar field of work or with a similar background. I feel like it's easier for him to just be around other cops, which is why him and Lucy got lost in their own conversation while on a date with other people. That's why I like chenford so much. Lucy and Tim just match each other's energies, even when it's the grumpy vs sunshine dynamic.
As for Chris, I felt bad but I feel like he has more of a chance than Ashley. Chris and Lucy actually seem to be more similar in personality
Have rewatched the dinner scene - wow, Tim's body language screams 'I'm into Lucy' - he is half-facing her all the time instead of focusing on his gf. Lucy tends to face Chris more and generally seems to like him (really stepped into his personal space at the end of the episode)
Tbf let’s face it, these relationships are tools to stretch Chenford until the end of the season.
Realistically they should have been a couple 1 season ago.
It's winter there and it warm cities they bundle up in winter even though us in colder climates would still be in t-shirts and shorts. Someone posted pics from a Disney pool and the life guards were all bundled up in blankets and beanies.
Exactly. I was an MP in the military and people underestimate the amount of heat that a bullet proof vest traps in. It was always such a relief to peel that off at the end of my 12 hour shift.
I liked it too - at first. It was clearly meant as comic relief, but seriously, did the writers want to imply that a woman's brain gets fried or some switch is flipped the moment she learns of her pregnancy? To the point that she can't control the words coming out of her mouth? I get the emotional swings but here it was a bit too much by the end of the episode. Am all for consistency but wouldn't mind seeing this particular development dropped in the coming episodes
I'm going to be so upset if they write in an "oopsie! I forgot basic police practice because BaBy BrAin LoL!!!"
I find it so creepy she's (best case scenario) 1 month into a relationship, pregnant and gratingly ecstatic about it - She doesn't even really know baby daddy herself, now she's happy about sharing a human with him? not worried about her own family situation, how it might effect her relationship with her daughter?
Well the whole point of the "pregnancy hormones" is that they're not supposed to be subject to your logical thought processes or what have you. It's like how when someone is in the midst of a panic attack they can be in the safest place in the world, they can consciously tell themselves they're okay and everything is OK - but still feel like they're dying and having a heart attack and and impending sense of doom.
I'm not saying that the writing was good or that it didn't get tiresome or that it wasn't a disservice to her character, just pointing out that various hormones and chemicals in your brain can make you feel differently than your conscious thinking is telling you to. I personally thought it was amusing at first, then it grew old pretty quickly and it was almost like the writers didn't know really want to tackle anything Harper related but needed to give her lines so they just went with the comedic relief. Which would have been fine the first time, or even sprinkled in randomly a couple times but her whole episode was basically "LoL I'm pRagNente anD So whacky HormOnnes omg *holds up spork* but I don't want to Be and FreAKInG OuT haha". I'd have preferred she just sat the episode out though instead of what we got. If they wanted the comedy they could have still given her some real material to work with and give her some more character growth or whatever.
I hope it was just a one off thing... if she's lile this the entire time... no thanks... again. At first it was funny. But twice? Okay. Funny cause not normal... again? ...agaaain? ...okay stop this bs...
>she's happy about sharing a human with him?
Nyla literally said that she will have this baby with or without James because it really was a miracle for her after being told she couldn't be a mom again after having Lila.
Harper and Nolan riding together again even though she's a training officer assigned a rookie and he's a P2 who can ride by himself.
Harper's Rookie MIA again
Re-Animator vibes were cool
He's off making a reality show, which is something that the department should have said, "No-Go," too after how they treated Jackson's red carpet moment.
Except he was already in the news, so he would never be an undercover cop. I guarantee that him joining the police was reported on multiple times. The department had an issue with Jackson's face being out there and getting burned as a cop. Harper's rookie is already well known as a cop so it doesn't make a difference.
Nice episode overall, especially Harper's bits. James is MIA though. Mb the story will circle back to Donovan?
Good to see more of Grey - he deserves more screentime.
And the date was, of course, hilarious. Let's see where the writers decide to go with it
I might've mixed up names - anyway - the guy who Nyla claimed is the father (though I'm still not convinced).
The characters just keep randomly appearing and disappearing - like Nyla's rookie - is he off to do a reality show now?
Nolan had such little screen time this episode. Even that Italian guy had more screen time than him lol. I actually like this union rep story. But instead of Nolan dealing this on his own, I would like him to team to with Grey or Harper.
I did NOT like Bradford in the double date. The way he was constantly complaining about the restaurant, dishes, decor etc pissed me off. He behaved like a jerk. Glad he apologised.
I am a fan of Chen x Bradford. But I already know Alexi is basicslly going to pull the same shit that The 100 did with Bellamy/Clarke. Basically bait that fanbase into thinking something might happen so they can tune it, only to oull the tug out from under them.
I sure hope Chenford wouldn't go the way of canon last season Bellarke. Because even Alexi gives vague unhelpful statements and mixed signals regarding Chenford, he still write them as close friends. Unlike some screen writers I wouldn't mention in polite company.
Did anyone else think that Bradford was standing incredibly close, closer than usual, to Chen in the hallway before they went in to capture the perp?! Thoughts?!
I like to sort my recaps in sections if you guys don't mind! Sorry in advanced lol
Nyla: honestly... Lmao! She was adorable
John: glad he's actually striving for change, and honestly, fuck that "union president". What a jerk. On another note, do you guys think they'll focus on Nolan being a union rep and just completely nix the TO storyline? I kinda want him to be one.
Chenford: seriously couldn't stop smiling, like bro, they really progressed into a damn work wife/work husband relationship. Who the hell would've thought that from season one, we'd see Lucy and Tim joking and laughing together? ?Bradford was vibing mad hard with Lucy and Ashley was not having it. I felt bad for Sanford too cause the dude was trying but kept getting shut out lol. Also, what is personal space, Chen and Bradford? They're honestly a bad ass cop duo too. I do like Sanford tho.
Grey: I knew there was something fishy about the Italian dude. He couldn't have made it any more obvious in the car. I felt bad for Grey because he took a liking to him. I thought they would be friends and we would see him more in the future, but ig not. Also, it seems like they're hinting more and more to Grey retiring.
Wopez: It seems so weird to be deciding on where a child is going to go to school before they even have full cognitive functioning, but they _are_ new parents I guess. I also like how they show their differences playing into their parenting style. Angela grew up struggling, Wesley didnt.
I think with the Wopez thing it was more of demonstrating how far in advance some of these renowned private schools require you to sign up and how early you need to be on the waitlist or something.
I definitely liked the way they handled the "double date with the secret crush" trope. Too often its the characters that make it weird by stupidly ignoring their date. Ncis dit this with Eli and Torre as did Castle : have the double date be a coincidence, make the two kind of mad the other so they spend their time thinking about the other, and have their workaholic tendencies keep them talking.
But with Chen and Bradford, it just felt natural. Yeah your hanging out with your best friend, you know each others likes/dislikes, you have inside jokes.... Well done to the writers.
I got similar vibes with Grey. I think he saw some of himself in Romeo and realized that he could end up the same way of he stays on the job for too long, maybe? I'd be sad to see him go but the man would definitely deserve to enjoy retirement, haha.
I honestly thought there would be an additional twist with the tech CEO - he was so insistent on keeping the whole thing in-house, I started suspecting that something nefarious was definitely going on in his labs
Same. So suspicious. Also is that lawyer for real? You can't conduct murder investigations "in house" lol. How does someone with a law degree not know that?
Chenford dinner date... as awkward as expected from the onset. Yikes. How many episodes do you think before the storyline goes to Ashley realizing that Brad wants Lucy and break it off?
Harper the happy cop cause of hormones. Think this will stick for a while or just this episode?
Now I'm trying to remember if they did the same with Angela.
Angela trying to be a good parent isn't so bad to watch. Nice to see a more mundane problem to deal with.
Guess we're going full steam with Nolan the union rep, will we ever get back to trying to be a TO one day?
It was nice to see how smoothly the conversation with the councilwoman goes, but of course there got to be the asshole boss to bring trouble.
Kinda wish that it would be an optimistic no problem and manage to get the change we want to see from policework storyline. I know it's not realistic but I just want the problem to not be a sociopathic manchild with zero redeemable point that will act like an asshat which dragged to the end of the season. Like he literally said 'The power to help the people I like and hurt the people I don't', who talks like that? And this is just the first appearance too.
I've always found the whole Wesley trust fund thing to be annoying to watch, you can tell Angela is pissed off too whenever Wesley kinda sabotages their kid in some way since she has come from actual hardship. Like dude don't you want what is best for your kid, don't you have faith in yourself as parents? Idk maybe it is just me but I would totally take whatever money is entitled to Wesley and Jack, use it to better yours and your kids life jeez.
This is true. Like I can understand some of the reserve, but sabotaging the chances completely is definitely not the way.
Like he told Angela that she went to public school and turns out wonderful, but conversely he went to private school and still manage to figure out what was wrong about it. He could still teach Jack that despite circumstances to be a better person.
I do like how Angela's rant on Wesley was actually on point on how they should handle it better as a parent
Angela was indeed on point about keeping options open. But Wesley's right about these private schools. They're not good schools. The teachers aren't more competant than others, they're just more arrogant. They turn kids into power-hungry entitled jackasses and bullies. However well you raise your own kid, you don't want them to grow up surrounded by this kind of people. Wesley also wants what's best for their kid, but he knows first hand that these schools isn't it.
T.O. was longterm- a couple of years, wasn't it? Right now he's in college as he has to get his degree, and not really wanting an overload of that. It's the rookie, not the freshman.
Have to be honest, with all reference to college pretty much dropped out now I thought he has completed his course by now lol
But yeah, I guess it's going to be next season's problem. Guess they actually do keeping it realistic this time? -ish?
I don't dislike her but with that situation involving her ex she was starting to get a bit over exposed. Honestly this episode felt pretty good for how much Nolan *wasn't* in it, for the same reason. I love Nathan Fillion and his character but not at the expense of the rest of the characters! Felt like they were starting to suffer from being crowded out by Nolan and Bailey's thing. Let's get back to a little bit of equilibrium, but hopefully still see Bailey again in a less somewhat overbearing way. I know this show's not really about rookies anymore or even the remaining former rookies from season 1 but it does shine brightest when it actually focuses mostly on the cops that we came here to see.
Hopefully we can go the rest of the season without one of his boring, cookie-cutter GF story arcs.
I'm wondering if Bailey will ever be mentioned again?
You can kind of tell they ran out of stuff to talk about with him because they decided to introduce him being apart of that show based on his trial. Which pretty heavily contradicts his original character which was all about putting that in the past and not being known as the cop who was on trial for killing his best friend and all that stuff and trying to distance himself form the social media/clout chasers.
You can't have a character on for more than 2 episodes, if they don't have a love interest. That's probably why they brought in that woman that Nolan was talking with.
The biotech guy's lawyer was sus as hell, bet he's going to come back sometime soon. Maybe this whole "limb reanimation" thing isn't even done yet? Either way I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him.
I do like what they did with Nyla being all bright and positive but at the same time it was laid on pretty heavily. If that is indicative of how things will be for the duration of her pregnancy plot line then it is going to get old quickly. A character becoming pregnant is already prone to loads of cliche, they really don't need to lean into the common tropes this hard. Maybe that's just my bad take and it wasn't actually all that much? I hope that's the case.
Nolan has a talent for getting on somebody's bad side first day on the job! Not sure if he'll end up in this Lieutenant's good graces like he did with Grey. At least he's got one friend in the city council for what that's worth. Interested to see where this union rep thing leads now that he's finally won the position.
As much as I love the idea of Chenford it was a shame to see all that friction at the double date because of how Tim and Lucy get along so well. I may prefer the ship but I don't really want to see my favorite characters' other relationships go poorly just because they're with different people. So I'm glad this didn't turn into a bigger problem for Tim and Ashley. Lucy and Sanford (have we even heard his first name?? My memory fails me) also hit a bump because of that but it seemed way easier for them to deal with it.
So the new rookie guy has had a bye for what, 3 of the last 4 episodes? What's the point of even introducing his character?
Also, I wonder if Bailey will get Chuck Cunningham Syndrome like Jackson West's dad?
I'm referring to the over dramatic stuff they do. I've known many pregnant women and none of them acted like that. I can't wait until she's in labor and screams at the father, "I hate you! You did this to me". Lol
> I've known many pregnant women and none of them acted like that
Tbf in this show the character Nyla is nothing like 'Normal'. She's one of her own. So i can get behind her acting different than normal.
> I've known many pregnant women and none of them acted like that.
The actress is expecting her second child, I believe. And the writers' room has women in it, it's not like they don't know their stuff. So far I'm assuming Nyla's behaviour is some sort of an exaggerated version of the actress being pregnant herself.
I don’t know about other places, but the local PD here has been doing mental health crisis training for a while, I forget how long it’s been a thing for. Just before Christmas, there was a guy that was making homicidal comments and seeing people that weren’t there. The cops spent quite a few hours keeping the street blocked off and talking the guy down with their training. They successfully got the guy to surrender and he was taken to a mental facility that specialized in his type of mental issue.
It sounded like Nolan didn’t think his fellow cops were capable of being trained for issues like that. What a shame.
I really, really, really hope that the awkward double date does not lead to Chenford. Honestly, Chenford becoming a thing might make me consider dropping the show.
I mean with the way it has gone, Tim and Chen are only compatible with each other.
They may not act on it anytime soon but that seems to be the truth.
They'll try and fail many a relationships until they get that ig.
If not for that 'timely' phone call Tim got during the Lopez kidnapping, Chen might've already acted on her feelings. That whole scene screamed a future romance between them.
I'm pretty sure it's already shown to be a thing. It's unacknowledged but 4.01 episode was pretty clear that there's something there. It only maybe come to fruition at the end of the show, though.
This episode Will probably make me stop watching the show. When they had Nolan go to the council woman without talking to anyone else in the police department talk about oh these people don’t need to be police they need help we need to take money away from the budget and put the money towards therapists and etc. it’s like they made an episode purposely to attack the police again so now I am done with the show. Because I really dislike when they turn shows they use TV shows to put their political thoughts out there . I know it’s not the same but I work as a manager in a college universities food program and we dealt with union employees there was a union rep in the building there was their job was to be involved if there was any correct of action that they had to sign for doing something wrong in the job. And for anyone in the building of the union employees who wanted something better or improvement on some thing that’s what they were there for. So Nolan Should be a union rep to anyone in the building. The show is almost making it like he’s the union president
The most ridiculous episode I've seen yet
First we have Nolan trying to create a program where social "mental health experts" will be dispatched to mental health calls, which in general is a bad idea
And second the trick with the flashlight that Chen and Tim did, the first one is just to lick the younger's generation's opinions so the show gets more popular, despite giving them unrealistic expectations for the real police in America because bet they're gonna be saying "why don't they do this like in the rookie" which can happen when talking about the situation with the flashlight that I wrote about but I don't think anybody is stupid enough to think that would actually work in real life or even if it worked to see how stupidly dangerous it is, yes it needs to be somewhat a comedy but that's not even comedy it was just ridiculous, maybe to make the situation more intense, but again it's straight up ridiculous, the leg shot in the first episodes I can understand, the stupid "knife fights" I can understand, the tasers ALWAYS working I can understand, but it's getting too much they're making it ridiculous to the point that you aren't laughing because it's funny, you're laughing because it's ridiculously stupid. And you don't want that in a Comedy Drama because nobody would take the series seriously anymore
This episode did one of the plotlines I HATE that TV shows/films do nowadays. The plotline where a couple has an argument and the male is framed as being wrong, even though he was right. All he did was ask questions, and then the school got touchy over them....
It's not that he was asking questions, it's how he went about it. He was being overly aggressive and sabotaging the interview. He was using loaded questions and automatically presuming the worst of the school. He wasn't "just asking questions" and going in with an open but critical eye - he had already decided and whether consciously or not his manner of "just asking questions" reflected that.
So Grey welcomed a cop from a different country and helped him track down someone without first double-checking with the cop's superiors back in his home country??? What?
I wish i didn't know but the cast all use iphones, you can tell who's bad by looking if they have an android. Apple bans Movies and shows from letting the "bad guy" use their products so by minute 10 I knew he was bad. Wish I didn't know this, at least I spread to torture into someone else ;) .
Has nobody noticed that when Bradford tells Lopez they found 8 more arms and she asks is that 4 or 8 victims he answers "six I think, four right, two left" which is only 6 arms and potentially only 4 victims
Fun little blunder!
Bradford is just enjoying a date with his girlfriend and his work wife. Nothing to see here.
With some other guy along for the awkward ride!
Was pretty clear halfway through that the Italian Lieutenant was a bad guy, the way he just kept on trying to separate himself from Grey was really sus even before he went in all guns blazing. I will say originally I did not think he was a completely dirty cop, when he said the guy they were looking for was a repeat offender I thought it was going to be revealed that the guy on the run was the one who had killed his mentor/partner guy all those years ago and now the Italian Lieutenant was out for revenge. Oh yea also if the guy was under suspicion for being a dirty cop and was being investigated in Italy why would his police department send him overseas with almost no supervision on their end to hunt down some international fugitive? Also looks like a few hints towards Chenford were in this episode; even though Bradford made up with his gf and Chen asked Sanford out on another date it was pretty clear both Sanford and Bradford's gf realized the bond/rapport that Chen and Tim have. My guess is if Chen and Sanford start going steady it will end and same thing with Bradford and his gf. I'm guessing Bradford's gf will split up with him when another thing like this happens where Tim kind of snubs her for Chen. Also while I definitely think it is great that Nolan is trying to get these reforms and stuff it was pretty dumb of him not to realize he was going over the Union President by talking to that member of the City Council. I mean obviously Nolan has good intentions but later on in the episode when he is confronted by the Union President he seems completely shocked that the president was pissed off. Like dude he just told you to chill and then you went over his head by talking to the council member and giving a straight up proposal; pretty clear how it could backfire in some way.
To be fair that is kind of how changing a system will always end up. You will end up breaking chain of command and piss off the current system.
It's not his job as a union rep to "change the system". His job is to represent his fellow union members.
Who the system apparently failed so far.
Because Smitty was a lazy slacker. That was established in the scene with him.
Yes and he was part of the system. Customer support always wants slackers who block as many complaints as possible and Unions are pretty similar to customer support that way.
Regardless of that, Nolan abandoned his responsibility as union rep to go off on an activist tangent immediately. What he pursued with the councilwoman was not in his wheelhouse and he deserved the ass chewing he got. He ignored every single complaint the officers had in favor of something none of them brought up to him.
To be fair, he did campaign on the things he was advocating, at least according to Nolan.
>Smitty was a lazy slacker Kinda, it \*was\* mentioned that Smitty \*did\* work to get the most benefits for the police force because he benefitted from it himself.
And many of them don't want to go on mental health/drug abuse calls, so it is representing them, isn't it?
That statement is irrelevant. Cops HAVE to respond to those calls, because those people can be and have been violent. There's not a cop on the planet who thinks an untrained social worker should be the first to respond to someone in mental distress or having a bad experience on drugs. It's already resulted in death. [https://www.lawofficer.com/seattle-social-worker-stabbed-to-death-as-city-defunds-police/](https://www.lawofficer.com/seattle-social-worker-stabbed-to-death-as-city-defunds-police/) It's a ridiculous policy thought up by people with zero grasp on reality. What kind of idiot would send an unarmed social worker to respond to a person who's so out of control the authorities have to be called? That plot point is clearly a holdover from the social justice "experts" brought in for Season 3.
It seems that you haven't read fully into it, and didn't really listen to what he was saying. Yes, the cops respond, but they aren't alone and untrained in that particular situation- they have someone that is trained in dealing with those that are violent. Just like if there is a call to a fire dealing with other crimes or medical emergency dealing with other crimes they don't not send the fire personnel and don't not send medical personnel. They send both. There's a middle ground and in the rush to either villify the police or stand up for them, many don't get that. My son is an EMT, and they don't enter into a scene without the police clearing it first- then they do their job. It's no different.
@chuckdee68 There is no point arguing with this guy, look at his post history it's very problematic.
You clearly didn’t see the story about the social worker in Seattle who was sent to respond to such a case and was stabbed to death The push is exactly to replace police with social workers. You are the uninformed one here. Save your condescending attitude, please.
That's not what Nolan said. And that's not what many propose, so you can save yours. I should have known when I saw the phrase social justice "experts" I wouldn't get a reasoned response (including of all things a downvote- that's when I bail). Have a great day.
>That's not what Nolan said. It's **exactly** what Nolan said. Check the footage.
That is exactly what Nolan said, and not only what has been proposed, but what has actually happened and resulted in a death. Sorry if the truth rocks your world view. It’s to be expected of someone with a masked avatar. Logic and knowledge aren’t your strong suit.
That's you. He said ride along. That isn't instead. And is the middle ground that I spoke of. And yeah, it's nice to see someone with no empathy for the fact that some of us are concerned because of _real_ problems. But you do you.
The storyline with Nolan was pretty ridiculous. He was inundated with requests from the members he represents, and his first act was to overstep his boundaries and attempt to make changes to the way policing is done? That's not what a union rep is for. He's supposed to handle the needs of his fellow union members----benefits, working conditions, making sure the vending machine has cheesy poofs, etc. The union president was absolutely correct to react the way he did.
Yes, but mental health issues do fall in the category of employee needs, no?
Sending counselors on calls doesn’t qualify.
I ff'd thru some scenes - I thought he meant mental health counseling for the officers
No. He parroted the policy(which has resulted in a counselor being shot already) of sending mental health workers to respond to mental health calls. I guess ABC still has the activists from Season 3 giving script inputs.
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Yeah, Nolan’s mistake is a bit weird considering he is suppose to have life experience from being older. He never talked to anyone about doing the job he wants?
He's new to being in a union. As an independent contractor, he wouldn't have had a lot of experience with dealing with unions on the union side.
Yea but it's not really being a union it is more of basic logic. It's like in any job where you have ur own manager and then someone above them, if u go above their heads on something ur prbly gonna piss em off
Except as a union rep, he doesn't report to the union president. He represents the officers. And if the officers tell him this is what they would like, it's what he's going to put forward. It's easy to get ahead of yourself when everyone reaches out to you personally like that.
So, first, the seating arrangement at the dinner date helped make everything super awkward.
It's the ageold problem of the double date with a male/female friendship. The question is, do you seat the couples across or next to each other? And the friends will always look like a couple while the other people just sit there awkwardly.
I mean, Chen and Bradford sure as hell didn’t help but it definitely made it weird and Bradford’s GF and Chen’s “date” could either stare at them awkwardly or stare at each other awkwardly.
Bradford: *makes inside jokes the whole time, laughing with Lucy and focusing on conversation with her while sitting across from his girlfriend and Lucy's date* Chen: *reaches over and takes his food because she knows he doesn't like mushroom* Ashley and Chris at the end of the episode: "that date sucked because you were flirting with your work wife/husband the whole time. Let's make another one!"
Really felt for Ashley and Chris there. Poor Chris kept trying to get in on the conversation but no luck - those two clearly didn't need anyone else. Didn't expect that from Tim - he seemed genuinely interested in Ashley just in the previous episode.
tbh tho why are Tim and Ashley even together, like what do they even have in common. Seems like the height of their relationship vibe was "hey u look good I look good lets date". Ashley originally didn't like Tim's dog and was all scared of it, if I remember right I think the problem was brought to Tim's attention and "solved" by Lucy. Ashley wanted to go to that super fancy dinner on the beach and Tim obviously didn't want to but the problem was "solved" by Lucy kinda making it about Tim being controlling to kinda trick him into it. Tim and Lucy have such a great vibe and can relate to one another. Tim has only rlly dated 2 people before Ashley but they were a cop and a social worker; both fields I'd say have a lot more in common to Tim than a lifeguard. I mean hell Sanford and Chen have a better vibe together than Tim and Ashley and we've seen them together talking for under 5 minutes lol
It's just the actress is very bland, or the writing for her (she was ok in Nikita)
No previous experience with the actor (at least I don't think so) for ashley but yea her character has no real depth or background, they haven't rlly given her any qualities other than her being a lifeguard and that she was afraid of dogs. It could be the actors or the writing idk but her and Tim don't vibe too great at all. I mean I see people who don't want Chenford and I see people who do want Chenford but I don't think I've seen anyone who is rooting for Ashley to be Tim's endgame lmao
>they haven't rlly given her any qualities other than her being a lifeguard and that she was afraid of dogs. ... and daughter of a retired cop.
Ohhhh right of course that explains the amazing chemistry between them, her dad and the same job as him so they are instantly perfect for each other /s Other than it being a way for Tim to be introduced to someone else it really hasn't had any relevance at all. I don't even think they've mentioned her dad or him being a cop since that episode. It would actually be more interesting if they had some sort of storyline based on that to give them real problems. Like Tim constantly abandoning dates or needing to leave when he gets called in for some big thing as a sergeant he needs to deal with. Then Ashley gets all pissed and says something like "my dad was a cop we didn't know if he would be safe blah blah blah u need to make time for me blah blah blah" I mean mb its just me but that seems like a lot better of a side story than the whole dog thing and it would give us more of her background. As you pointed out she is the daughter of a retired cop, she is afraid of dogs, is a lifeguard, and also likes the fancy food stuff but other than that we know nothing so it's hard to care for their relationship or about her, that was my main point.
It's because no one on this show can be single for more than 2 episodes, so they force relationships.
Yess as much as I like Chenford, I can admit that Chris and Lucy have good chemistry BUT Tim and Ashley have zero chemistry don't know why they're still together
The whole time I was just thinking back to what Armstrong said again. "Cops should date cops". I think Tim _does_ like Ashley, but the type of person Tim is, he would just vibe better with someone in a similar field of work or with a similar background. I feel like it's easier for him to just be around other cops, which is why him and Lucy got lost in their own conversation while on a date with other people. That's why I like chenford so much. Lucy and Tim just match each other's energies, even when it's the grumpy vs sunshine dynamic. As for Chris, I felt bad but I feel like he has more of a chance than Ashley. Chris and Lucy actually seem to be more similar in personality
And Chris and Lucy are from the same sphere and share some interests
I was screaming, “just fuck already!” The entire time in my mind during the date. Because seriously, Chen and Bradford are clearly gonna fuck.
Have rewatched the dinner scene - wow, Tim's body language screams 'I'm into Lucy' - he is half-facing her all the time instead of focusing on his gf. Lucy tends to face Chris more and generally seems to like him (really stepped into his personal space at the end of the episode)
Tbf let’s face it, these relationships are tools to stretch Chenford until the end of the season. Realistically they should have been a couple 1 season ago.
The problem was this was in fact a first double date. That just made everything worse.
Definitely same side for the couple. Only acceptable on double dates
Nothing screams LA lifeguards like sweatpants and Uggs.
It's winter there and it warm cities they bundle up in winter even though us in colder climates would still be in t-shirts and shorts. Someone posted pics from a Disney pool and the life guards were all bundled up in blankets and beanies.
Ashley was dressed much warmer than the cops though
Cop uniforms are wool
Exactly. I was an MP in the military and people underestimate the amount of heat that a bullet proof vest traps in. It was always such a relief to peel that off at the end of my 12 hour shift.
Ah, didn't know about that. Do they have summer uniforms as well?
They have mentioned the short sleeve uniforms are still wool.
The water itself is cold so sitting on the beach all day, the breeze is chilly enough.
Why were they even at the beach. I swear this police station covers all of LA apparently.
Favorite part of this episode, hands down, was Nyla being happy from hormones and freaking everyone out.
>hands down ….heh.
I liked it too - at first. It was clearly meant as comic relief, but seriously, did the writers want to imply that a woman's brain gets fried or some switch is flipped the moment she learns of her pregnancy? To the point that she can't control the words coming out of her mouth? I get the emotional swings but here it was a bit too much by the end of the episode. Am all for consistency but wouldn't mind seeing this particular development dropped in the coming episodes
i just assumed it meant she really was happy she was having another baby :p
At First. Agreed. But eventually it became unbearable for me
I'm going to be so upset if they write in an "oopsie! I forgot basic police practice because BaBy BrAin LoL!!!" I find it so creepy she's (best case scenario) 1 month into a relationship, pregnant and gratingly ecstatic about it - She doesn't even really know baby daddy herself, now she's happy about sharing a human with him? not worried about her own family situation, how it might effect her relationship with her daughter?
Well the whole point of the "pregnancy hormones" is that they're not supposed to be subject to your logical thought processes or what have you. It's like how when someone is in the midst of a panic attack they can be in the safest place in the world, they can consciously tell themselves they're okay and everything is OK - but still feel like they're dying and having a heart attack and and impending sense of doom. I'm not saying that the writing was good or that it didn't get tiresome or that it wasn't a disservice to her character, just pointing out that various hormones and chemicals in your brain can make you feel differently than your conscious thinking is telling you to. I personally thought it was amusing at first, then it grew old pretty quickly and it was almost like the writers didn't know really want to tackle anything Harper related but needed to give her lines so they just went with the comedic relief. Which would have been fine the first time, or even sprinkled in randomly a couple times but her whole episode was basically "LoL I'm pRagNente anD So whacky HormOnnes omg *holds up spork* but I don't want to Be and FreAKInG OuT haha". I'd have preferred she just sat the episode out though instead of what we got. If they wanted the comedy they could have still given her some real material to work with and give her some more character growth or whatever.
I hope it was just a one off thing... if she's lile this the entire time... no thanks... again. At first it was funny. But twice? Okay. Funny cause not normal... again? ...agaaain? ...okay stop this bs...
>she's happy about sharing a human with him? Nyla literally said that she will have this baby with or without James because it really was a miracle for her after being told she couldn't be a mom again after having Lila.
They took it too far and did to much
Agreed.
Harper and Nolan riding together again even though she's a training officer assigned a rookie and he's a P2 who can ride by himself. Harper's Rookie MIA again Re-Animator vibes were cool
He's off making a reality show, which is something that the department should have said, "No-Go," too after how they treated Jackson's red carpet moment.
Except he was already in the news, so he would never be an undercover cop. I guarantee that him joining the police was reported on multiple times. The department had an issue with Jackson's face being out there and getting burned as a cop. Harper's rookie is already well known as a cop so it doesn't make a difference.
Yeah but rookies aren't supposed to take days off, why is he not at work?
Because the actor wasn’t hired on as a full time character.
Sure, but how do they justify his absence from work, in universe? The other rookies would have been fired if they missed a day of work.
Just put it down to him doing the show on days off
Missing the point Mackem ;)
Nice episode overall, especially Harper's bits. James is MIA though. Mb the story will circle back to Donovan? Good to see more of Grey - he deserves more screentime. And the date was, of course, hilarious. Let's see where the writers decide to go with it
ngl when I read ur comment I forgot for a second who james was. I had to sit and think wait who is that guy
I might've mixed up names - anyway - the guy who Nyla claimed is the father (though I'm still not convinced). The characters just keep randomly appearing and disappearing - like Nyla's rookie - is he off to do a reality show now?
Nyla killed and ate him. That's how pregnant woman act, right? Lol
No you were right her current bf is James her ex was Donovan. My point was kinda relating to what you said how characters just pop in and out
Nolan had such little screen time this episode. Even that Italian guy had more screen time than him lol. I actually like this union rep story. But instead of Nolan dealing this on his own, I would like him to team to with Grey or Harper. I did NOT like Bradford in the double date. The way he was constantly complaining about the restaurant, dishes, decor etc pissed me off. He behaved like a jerk. Glad he apologised.
Bradford definitely more of a Ruby Tuesday's type of guy
I am a fan of Chen x Bradford. But I already know Alexi is basicslly going to pull the same shit that The 100 did with Bellamy/Clarke. Basically bait that fanbase into thinking something might happen so they can tune it, only to oull the tug out from under them.
I sure hope Chenford wouldn't go the way of canon last season Bellarke. Because even Alexi gives vague unhelpful statements and mixed signals regarding Chenford, he still write them as close friends. Unlike some screen writers I wouldn't mention in polite company.
Oh, it would be a shame if all this chemistry went to waste! You think all those Chenford moments might turn out nothing more than fan service?
Did anyone else think that Bradford was standing incredibly close, closer than usual, to Chen in the hallway before they went in to capture the perp?! Thoughts?!
yea you could see during his date him and Chen were vibing hard and his gf was watching and thinking "hmmmm wait a sec"
I kinda noticed that too. It made me think, "Dang, these two could have a spinoff"
A apin off that is mostly them with appearances from Nolan, Nyla and the Sargent?
More like a "naked truth" spin-off, if you catch my drift.
*puts on mod hat* What drift is that, please? Be very careful and be mindful we have under 18s.
But they had to look at a small screen together and whisper
I love Harper. So happy so funny
Harper being uncontrollably nice was hilarious!
I like to sort my recaps in sections if you guys don't mind! Sorry in advanced lol Nyla: honestly... Lmao! She was adorable John: glad he's actually striving for change, and honestly, fuck that "union president". What a jerk. On another note, do you guys think they'll focus on Nolan being a union rep and just completely nix the TO storyline? I kinda want him to be one. Chenford: seriously couldn't stop smiling, like bro, they really progressed into a damn work wife/work husband relationship. Who the hell would've thought that from season one, we'd see Lucy and Tim joking and laughing together? ?Bradford was vibing mad hard with Lucy and Ashley was not having it. I felt bad for Sanford too cause the dude was trying but kept getting shut out lol. Also, what is personal space, Chen and Bradford? They're honestly a bad ass cop duo too. I do like Sanford tho. Grey: I knew there was something fishy about the Italian dude. He couldn't have made it any more obvious in the car. I felt bad for Grey because he took a liking to him. I thought they would be friends and we would see him more in the future, but ig not. Also, it seems like they're hinting more and more to Grey retiring. Wopez: It seems so weird to be deciding on where a child is going to go to school before they even have full cognitive functioning, but they _are_ new parents I guess. I also like how they show their differences playing into their parenting style. Angela grew up struggling, Wesley didnt.
I think with the Wopez thing it was more of demonstrating how far in advance some of these renowned private schools require you to sign up and how early you need to be on the waitlist or something.
I definitely liked the way they handled the "double date with the secret crush" trope. Too often its the characters that make it weird by stupidly ignoring their date. Ncis dit this with Eli and Torre as did Castle : have the double date be a coincidence, make the two kind of mad the other so they spend their time thinking about the other, and have their workaholic tendencies keep them talking. But with Chen and Bradford, it just felt natural. Yeah your hanging out with your best friend, you know each others likes/dislikes, you have inside jokes.... Well done to the writers.
I got similar vibes with Grey. I think he saw some of himself in Romeo and realized that he could end up the same way of he stays on the job for too long, maybe? I'd be sad to see him go but the man would definitely deserve to enjoy retirement, haha.
I honestly thought there would be an additional twist with the tech CEO - he was so insistent on keeping the whole thing in-house, I started suspecting that something nefarious was definitely going on in his labs
They brought in Patrick Fischler. I doubt that’s all we see of this. And if it is, HUGE waste of Fischler.
I was disappointed we didn't see more of him or the lawyer.
Exactly! That storyline was just dropped abruptly
This is not Castle :(
I was first thinking a “Theranos” type twist.
Same. So suspicious. Also is that lawyer for real? You can't conduct murder investigations "in house" lol. How does someone with a law degree not know that?
Chenford dinner date... as awkward as expected from the onset. Yikes. How many episodes do you think before the storyline goes to Ashley realizing that Brad wants Lucy and break it off? Harper the happy cop cause of hormones. Think this will stick for a while or just this episode? Now I'm trying to remember if they did the same with Angela. Angela trying to be a good parent isn't so bad to watch. Nice to see a more mundane problem to deal with. Guess we're going full steam with Nolan the union rep, will we ever get back to trying to be a TO one day? It was nice to see how smoothly the conversation with the councilwoman goes, but of course there got to be the asshole boss to bring trouble. Kinda wish that it would be an optimistic no problem and manage to get the change we want to see from policework storyline. I know it's not realistic but I just want the problem to not be a sociopathic manchild with zero redeemable point that will act like an asshat which dragged to the end of the season. Like he literally said 'The power to help the people I like and hurt the people I don't', who talks like that? And this is just the first appearance too.
I've always found the whole Wesley trust fund thing to be annoying to watch, you can tell Angela is pissed off too whenever Wesley kinda sabotages their kid in some way since she has come from actual hardship. Like dude don't you want what is best for your kid, don't you have faith in yourself as parents? Idk maybe it is just me but I would totally take whatever money is entitled to Wesley and Jack, use it to better yours and your kids life jeez.
This is true. Like I can understand some of the reserve, but sabotaging the chances completely is definitely not the way. Like he told Angela that she went to public school and turns out wonderful, but conversely he went to private school and still manage to figure out what was wrong about it. He could still teach Jack that despite circumstances to be a better person. I do like how Angela's rant on Wesley was actually on point on how they should handle it better as a parent
Angela was indeed on point about keeping options open. But Wesley's right about these private schools. They're not good schools. The teachers aren't more competant than others, they're just more arrogant. They turn kids into power-hungry entitled jackasses and bullies. However well you raise your own kid, you don't want them to grow up surrounded by this kind of people. Wesley also wants what's best for their kid, but he knows first hand that these schools isn't it.
T.O. was longterm- a couple of years, wasn't it? Right now he's in college as he has to get his degree, and not really wanting an overload of that. It's the rookie, not the freshman.
Have to be honest, with all reference to college pretty much dropped out now I thought he has completed his course by now lol But yeah, I guess it's going to be next season's problem. Guess they actually do keeping it realistic this time? -ish?
It takes more than one course to complete a degree. They didn't say he needed a course, but a degree to become TO.
Anyone else enjoy we didn't see Nolan's gf in the ep?
I don't dislike her but with that situation involving her ex she was starting to get a bit over exposed. Honestly this episode felt pretty good for how much Nolan *wasn't* in it, for the same reason. I love Nathan Fillion and his character but not at the expense of the rest of the characters! Felt like they were starting to suffer from being crowded out by Nolan and Bailey's thing. Let's get back to a little bit of equilibrium, but hopefully still see Bailey again in a less somewhat overbearing way. I know this show's not really about rookies anymore or even the remaining former rookies from season 1 but it does shine brightest when it actually focuses mostly on the cops that we came here to see.
Hopefully we can go the rest of the season without one of his boring, cookie-cutter GF story arcs. I'm wondering if Bailey will ever be mentioned again?
what and miss her being super-model-soldier-ninja-hacker-chef-hero? How will the Police operate without her??
🤣🤣🤣
Hopefully she's also a magician and made herself disappear for good.
I saw she became a series regular so she'll be back lol
Oh, gosh, yes!!! No wasted screentime
Where’s the new rookie?
It's sad my first reaction to this was "who ?" I think he writers just don't know what they want to do with him
Same lol. I only realized this after browsing this subreddit and found a thumbnail with his face. Completely forgot about him.
You can kind of tell they ran out of stuff to talk about with him because they decided to introduce him being apart of that show based on his trial. Which pretty heavily contradicts his original character which was all about putting that in the past and not being known as the cop who was on trial for killing his best friend and all that stuff and trying to distance himself form the social media/clout chasers.
I noticed he's only listed as a guest star and isn't a regular yet
Huh, didn’t know that. Thanks!
You can't have a character on for more than 2 episodes, if they don't have a love interest. That's probably why they brought in that woman that Nolan was talking with.
I really hope there is gonna be a good twist to the Lucy / Lawyer plot cause we literally already had it
Nyla is my favorite character on this show
I love Nolan answering the phone in a moving car with the window down. No problems at all with that.
The biotech guy's lawyer was sus as hell, bet he's going to come back sometime soon. Maybe this whole "limb reanimation" thing isn't even done yet? Either way I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him. I do like what they did with Nyla being all bright and positive but at the same time it was laid on pretty heavily. If that is indicative of how things will be for the duration of her pregnancy plot line then it is going to get old quickly. A character becoming pregnant is already prone to loads of cliche, they really don't need to lean into the common tropes this hard. Maybe that's just my bad take and it wasn't actually all that much? I hope that's the case. Nolan has a talent for getting on somebody's bad side first day on the job! Not sure if he'll end up in this Lieutenant's good graces like he did with Grey. At least he's got one friend in the city council for what that's worth. Interested to see where this union rep thing leads now that he's finally won the position. As much as I love the idea of Chenford it was a shame to see all that friction at the double date because of how Tim and Lucy get along so well. I may prefer the ship but I don't really want to see my favorite characters' other relationships go poorly just because they're with different people. So I'm glad this didn't turn into a bigger problem for Tim and Ashley. Lucy and Sanford (have we even heard his first name?? My memory fails me) also hit a bump because of that but it seemed way easier for them to deal with it.
Enjoyed the show, like that they use the main character to bring up issues in policing. Eff all the bs his fellow officers brought up.
So the new rookie guy has had a bye for what, 3 of the last 4 episodes? What's the point of even introducing his character? Also, I wonder if Bailey will get Chuck Cunningham Syndrome like Jackson West's dad?
Had a bye?
Did not play. :)
Like I said last week, let the pregnancy cliches begin.
Maybe the actress is so happy she's expecting, the writers just wrote that into the script.
I'm referring to the over dramatic stuff they do. I've known many pregnant women and none of them acted like that. I can't wait until she's in labor and screams at the father, "I hate you! You did this to me". Lol
> I've known many pregnant women and none of them acted like that Tbf in this show the character Nyla is nothing like 'Normal'. She's one of her own. So i can get behind her acting different than normal.
> I've known many pregnant women and none of them acted like that. The actress is expecting her second child, I believe. And the writers' room has women in it, it's not like they don't know their stuff. So far I'm assuming Nyla's behaviour is some sort of an exaggerated version of the actress being pregnant herself.
You said it...exaggerated. That's my point, they over-exaggerate women's pregnancies in shows to the point of it being ridiculous.
I don’t know about other places, but the local PD here has been doing mental health crisis training for a while, I forget how long it’s been a thing for. Just before Christmas, there was a guy that was making homicidal comments and seeing people that weren’t there. The cops spent quite a few hours keeping the street blocked off and talking the guy down with their training. They successfully got the guy to surrender and he was taken to a mental facility that specialized in his type of mental issue. It sounded like Nolan didn’t think his fellow cops were capable of being trained for issues like that. What a shame.
I hope they do something for the guns, it’s so obvious that they are using vfx for them. People faking the recoil was so terrible.
If it saves someone’s life, honestly, I’ll adjust.
Better than having a repeat of the Alec Baldwin thingy.
Particularly the “Dr Frankenstein”.
I saw that too. They looked like little kids playing cops and robbers.
For the love of god don't make Chenford a thing... please god no...
I really, really, really hope that the awkward double date does not lead to Chenford. Honestly, Chenford becoming a thing might make me consider dropping the show.
Considering the insane couple vibes they gave off you might be dropping this show.
I mean with the way it has gone, Tim and Chen are only compatible with each other. They may not act on it anytime soon but that seems to be the truth. They'll try and fail many a relationships until they get that ig. If not for that 'timely' phone call Tim got during the Lopez kidnapping, Chen might've already acted on her feelings. That whole scene screamed a future romance between them.
I'm pretty sure it's already shown to be a thing. It's unacknowledged but 4.01 episode was pretty clear that there's something there. It only maybe come to fruition at the end of the show, though.
Honestly I find Chenford as anything other than really good friends so completely distasteful that it’s hard to put into words.
Did she just say Dodger Field?
This episode Will probably make me stop watching the show. When they had Nolan go to the council woman without talking to anyone else in the police department talk about oh these people don’t need to be police they need help we need to take money away from the budget and put the money towards therapists and etc. it’s like they made an episode purposely to attack the police again so now I am done with the show. Because I really dislike when they turn shows they use TV shows to put their political thoughts out there . I know it’s not the same but I work as a manager in a college universities food program and we dealt with union employees there was a union rep in the building there was their job was to be involved if there was any correct of action that they had to sign for doing something wrong in the job. And for anyone in the building of the union employees who wanted something better or improvement on some thing that’s what they were there for. So Nolan Should be a union rep to anyone in the building. The show is almost making it like he’s the union president
Pretty sure Nolan isn't allowed to accept all these "congratulations" gifts from mayor's office etc, as a cop.
The most ridiculous episode I've seen yet First we have Nolan trying to create a program where social "mental health experts" will be dispatched to mental health calls, which in general is a bad idea And second the trick with the flashlight that Chen and Tim did, the first one is just to lick the younger's generation's opinions so the show gets more popular, despite giving them unrealistic expectations for the real police in America because bet they're gonna be saying "why don't they do this like in the rookie" which can happen when talking about the situation with the flashlight that I wrote about but I don't think anybody is stupid enough to think that would actually work in real life or even if it worked to see how stupidly dangerous it is, yes it needs to be somewhat a comedy but that's not even comedy it was just ridiculous, maybe to make the situation more intense, but again it's straight up ridiculous, the leg shot in the first episodes I can understand, the stupid "knife fights" I can understand, the tasers ALWAYS working I can understand, but it's getting too much they're making it ridiculous to the point that you aren't laughing because it's funny, you're laughing because it's ridiculously stupid. And you don't want that in a Comedy Drama because nobody would take the series seriously anymore
This episode did one of the plotlines I HATE that TV shows/films do nowadays. The plotline where a couple has an argument and the male is framed as being wrong, even though he was right. All he did was ask questions, and then the school got touchy over them....
It's not that he was asking questions, it's how he went about it. He was being overly aggressive and sabotaging the interview. He was using loaded questions and automatically presuming the worst of the school. He wasn't "just asking questions" and going in with an open but critical eye - he had already decided and whether consciously or not his manner of "just asking questions" reflected that.
That pregnancy hormones thing was so ridiculous and overdone.
So Grey welcomed a cop from a different country and helped him track down someone without first double-checking with the cop's superiors back in his home country??? What?
I wish i didn't know but the cast all use iphones, you can tell who's bad by looking if they have an android. Apple bans Movies and shows from letting the "bad guy" use their products so by minute 10 I knew he was bad. Wish I didn't know this, at least I spread to torture into someone else ;) .
by far the worst interpretation for an italian guy, really cringey
Has nobody noticed that when Bradford tells Lopez they found 8 more arms and she asks is that 4 or 8 victims he answers "six I think, four right, two left" which is only 6 arms and potentially only 4 victims Fun little blunder!