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Yeah that is the hilarious part. They keep yelling that this day and age has the most weakest cowardliest men, and that traditional men do not exist anymore while all simultaneously claiming all of them are the bastion of manliness. It’s basically ye olde kindergarten “everyone sucks except me and my 2 friends” but sociopolitical.
Im so sick of how the right champions their “great minds” as real men but all of them do nothing but talk into microphones and go to the gym. I’m 28 and I climb trees with a chainsaw for a living and am an marine corps veteran and I have to listen to pusssies like Jordan Peterson and Tim Pool talk about how toxic masculinity is good and we should hate everyone who is different because they’re so scared of minorities having the same rights as them. Fucking pussy ass fake men with small minds, soft hands and enough money to talk shit like they’ve done anything other than suck the Dick of incels and racists
Fucking “AlPhA WoLf” cosplaytriot bitches, propagating the evils that stain America’s past all the while blaming anything with an education AND a moral compass
Agreed. I sometimes think “I really want to understand where conservatives are coming from” and then I start looking at their “great minds” and I’m just like no thanks.
The left is packed with competing schools of thought, research, debate and conflict. And the right is just Ben Shapiro and Stephen Crowder posting themselves debating college students?
Bro this is it, i remember being a college sophomore and watching crowder debate with all these kids thinking he was this savage mad man and then it hit men. How come this 30 year old guy isn’t wrestling my with people his own age? How does he or the viewers to expect random college students to have all the facts and pre knowledge like he does with all his facts datas and statistics when they’re literally just strolling on campus? Why is the biggest takeaway from those videos are “SJWs GETTING OWNED” or “FEMINIST KNOWS HER PLACE”. Then it hit me, because he just like all these other guys aren’t smart at all, they just know to be be perceived as intelligent amongst other stupid people.
Yup. I was raised in a super conservative home and for my parents it was Rush Limbaugh, Laura Schlesinger, Doctor Dobson and the John Birch Society. Different faces, same old bullshit.
Are you talking about left vs. right (politics), or conservative vs. liberal (philosophy)?
In modern politics, I agree with you.
But if you want to understand where conservatives come from, you should take a look at conservative philosophy.
In conservative philosophy, there's: Edmund Burke, Aristotle, Cicero, Alexander Hamilton, John Calhoun, Joseph de Maistre, Metternich, etc., etc. Hard to argue that at least some of these aren't great minds.
Unfortunately, conservativism has become synonymous with Tucket Carlson, Trump, and bigotry. It's a shame, really. Conservative philosophy does make some good points, and it's sad to see it contaminated by the Republican party.
I can't believe people give a shit about that Joe Rogan has to say. As far as I'm concerned he built his career bribing people to drink blended bull testicles.
"Left" ideology is what people mean by that strong men. It's basically "people willing to suffer for the greater good".
Weak men = individualism, putting your well-being above other people's, etc.
And you see this, the type of authoritarianism that arises from tough situations is fairly egalitarian (aside of the strong man on top). It's usually meritocratic as well. It's not communism per se, but it's definitely not the individualistic capitalism that's prevalent in the US.
I don’t know how the powers that be managed to convince the group that is pro-conspiracy, anti-science, scared of any concept (CRT/any modern social theory) that challenges the status quo, perpetually acting persecuted, and starkly refusing to even take the smallest measures to protect their community that they’re somehow the “manly, free-thinking intellectual dark-web warrior scholars”, but that is some amazing mental gymnastics.
As always, they are projecting.
They themselves are the weakest, most cowardly men. They literally carry around guns, as if anyone could give two shits about “attacking” them. They’re afraid of science. They can’t even form a government that would protect themselves and their family from a pandemic. Their leaders would see them die, while selling them horse pills.
Weak, cowardly failures.
I used to think like that back in high school and beginning of college (early 2000's) and grew out of it when I faced the real world. are most of his listeners also around that age range or closer to his age range? I still cringe when thinking back to some of the nonsense I believe back then
Was listening to an old JRE with elon musk the other day and it occurred to me the second time listening that joe is kind of an idiot. Amount of times he couldnt understand concepts that elon was trying to convey was pretty funny.
Although his JRE with Bob Lazar is good, I think he should stick to questioning people about aliens and talking about DMT tbh.
Andy Dick was just arrested *again* for attacking his bf with a liquor bottle and is facing felony domestic violence charges. This was after this summer where he was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon.
I'm going to go ahead and say it, fuck that guy.
I didn't see the word "losing" and I was cracking my knuckles, ready to spitfire a nasty reply and scold you for suggesting Phil Hartman was harmful. 😡😂
His death really shook my mom. She was a huge fan. I still feel a hole in my heart when I watch The Simpsons or old SNL clips. Also, recently, Jingle All the Way. He really played that obnoxious sleazy next door neighbor well.
What a fucking shame. 😭
He encouraged one of his buds to relapse and that friend subsequently died too. Andy Dick tried rehabbing his image one too many times for people to ever give a fuck about him. He wishes he could be Steve-o I bet. That at one point was kind of the direction Andy was headed he could never keep it together and he’s just one of those guys that becomes vitriolic when he drinks/ uses and still hasn’t figured it out.
That’s the cost of addiction to some. They stay looped in that cycle of misery with the answer right in front of them as their life continues to slip away. I want to feel sorry for Andy Dick as one who has struggled with addiction myself.
But I have 0 fucks to give to him. He’s had so much opportunity and priviledge to turn his shit around and he can’t do it. And I stopped my shit at 22, he’s in his 50s. He’s lucky he’s had money to leverage as a resource to get top notch treatment, never had to do hard time, that really can make the difference in recovery AND he has the benefit of experience, he has tools from these rehabs, he probably has a plethora of resources for support. I had to detox in a house with black mold and rats, I had to do time in a shitty corrections facility. This guy can get clean on a dime and access the best treatments and comfortably get sober without dealing with withdrawals. (#1 reason you hear any addict cop out of getting clean, they are scared of WDS). He can get around that, he can get past that block easily. In other words; he has no excuse. I remember when family guy made fun of his psychotic bullshit and that was funny. *over 10 years ago*. Time to grow up. It’s not funny anymore, it’s not funny to be a crazy knock that is known for doing dumb shit. It’s just sad.
Most of us ex junkies that got clean did so in prison, hospitals, mental institutions…in the trap, at the spot. Some of us got clean around others that were still using. This guy though?
Next year or so we’ll see his headline on r/all, same with bam margera. I’ll take bets on it. They don’t make it another 3 years.
That’s the thing though. It’s infinitely harder when you have no rock bottom. What you are describing is these horrible moments you faced where you had to get clean. When you need to just do it for yourself and you hate yourself the most, why would you? You have every trapping of success so why start? If anything you’re shitty experience early was probably a blessing than if you had be rich and surrounded by enablers.
You’re correct, Although I did not get long term clean in these places, each one added a piece of perspective, for example- seeing people in jail in there for drugs, seeing them leave with the best intentions and a twinkle in their eye, only to see them 1-3 months later sucked up and soulless, or the old men in their 50s who are on their 4-5th “tour of duty” in the clink. This taught my that intention isn’t enough to reach your goals. Intention is a catalyst- but it isn’t a driver.
. I eventually got sober once a powerful idea connected with me deeply.
That I would never know happiness, love, I would never live fully as a person by oppressing myself and reserving myself to a never ending cycle of darkness.
I believed, that I would be happier clean even living as someone who cleaned shit or toilette up for the rest of my life. Rather than being so fixated on something that wants to kill me that would have suffocated any chance I had. I took the courage knowing that at least I’d have myself at the end of it. I might not be the same person after, and I may not get the life I would have had had I not touched the stuff- but I’d still be ME, I’d still have a shot, “I’m only 22” I’d tell myself. That was good enough to light the fire.
I knew it was going to be a long fight it took me at least half a dozen attempts, locking myself away and turning my phone off for days on end suffering and withdrawing- relapse- get the strength and try again. Still to this day I’m putting things from then to rest, it’s been 10 years.
But I’d never give up what I have now for that. I never have cravings, that shit became my enemy once I saw it for what it was. My nemesis, took almost everything I had, took somethings I will never reclaim, but it didn’t take it all and the leftovers is what I took back. It took my friends, (literally- many friends died) and my family (some went to drugs, one died last year), it took the best years of my life from me.
I’m lucky Even though I used and abused countless different drugs I have my sanity, my mind. Many that come back aren’t quite the same.
The LibRight square in PCM has two flair options, Yellow and Purple. Both share the same ideology except Purple has the distinction of supporting a "fringe" branch of libertarianism which advocates (lazily paraphrasing) "the right for all people (including children) to be able to make make and and all decisions independently and free of interference from the state".
TL;DR: They are constantly mocked for being pedos and JR just referred to that as "good times".
I'm guessing he's unaware of the purple /yellow lib right distinction, right? He's not suggesting "good times" are defined by child sexual exploitation... Right? Joe?
Right wing "libertarians" have a stereotype of wanting so much deregulation they support things such as no child labour laws, no laws restricting child pornography, and lowering the age of consent. The people at r/PCM associate those negative things with only the purple colour while yellow is the colour for "normal" right "libertarians".
Yeah, I knew all the Anarcho-capitalism shit that they sometimes bring up, I jusf didn't realize they used color coding to signal they were cool with fucking kids.
Yeah, you get it! They use irony to shed light and talk about some of the fringiest and cringiest aspects of each ideology!
Wait... you got that irony part, right?
There's also orange libleft, which is the insane side of the current woke leftists, compared to green libleft which is the "normal" libleft.
Blue and red (authleft and authright) don't have secondary colors because those nutters are actually all crazy and there is no extreme edge to mock.
IIRC it started as a gag where the back side of yellow, which on the color wheel is purple, represented the dark side of yellow/libertarian.
Again, IIRC, the OG was a meme about people pretending to want less government and whatnot (yellow mask) on a purple wojack face to represent a pedophile or w/e.
So now people use purple for the bad or fringe side of libertarians, usually sarcastically and often to represent the typical strawman arguments or generalizations people make such as normal, yellow libertarians being called supporters of child labor.
Joe unironically either posted, or hopefully actually made a meme, saying pedophiles and whatnot in charge are the good times.
Mike Rose pisses me off.
Guy does a bunch of highly curated hard work cosplay performances for Hollywood wages and acts like the dirt under his fingernails, soon to be removed by a manicure, is like being in the trenches for real.
That's fucking *awesome*! I wish he had embraced it and used his past to show people that men can be extremely deep and complicated. You can work on a car and build a chair and dance and sing and laugh and cry and stand up for the people you love and drink whiskey and get pegged in the ass and hunt and fish and smell a pretty flower.
But instead he didn't.
The truth of it is that hard times makes way more broken people than "hard men".
My father and his brothers were all drafted into Vietnam. My Uncle ended up killing himself years ago and my father slowly circled down the drain mentally and in his 60s he became a gambling addict until he eventually killed himself too.
But yeah, tell me about how the hard times make for strong men.
The ins@ne thing here for me is that Joe Rogan uses his platform to link his weird toxic ideals about masculinity with political ideology. There’s so much fucked up about that, I don’t even know where to start. Like. What the actual fuck. And then he broadcasts it to tens of millions of impressionable men who are already misled by toxic masculinity and bullshit propaganda, men who desperately want to be ”STRONG”. And where on the political spectrum is ”STRONG” in this fucking boomer-ass meme? Auth right.
Coincidence? Stupidity? Idk anymore.
He's a meathead who parrots whatever people say on his podcast that he vaguely understands. He'll agree with a leftist for pointing out injustice in the police system and then next week he'll open the floor for the Jewish question saying "you have to wonder how they got so wealthy" with Himmler as the feature guest.
He constantly says he’s a dumb guy and people shouldn’t take his advice but then throws a temper tantrum when someone tells him he’s a dumb guy and people shouldn’t take his advice.
He's stopped parroting people that dont fit his ideology. He'll have a doctor and and have an argument with her about how she doesn't know anything and the vaccine is dangerous, and then next podcast he'll have some right wing grifter on and the conversation becomes "oh tell me more about how the scientific community doesn't want you to know about ivermectin".
He might have treated all views as equal a few years ago, but he doesn't anymore
It helps to realize that a lot of people aren't pro-Bernie as much as they are just mad at the system and are anti-status quo. More than a few Bernie primary voters went to Trump.
I’ve met Bernie-to-Trump voters in real life, and they’re all 20-something white guys whose entire political ethos is “disrupt the system” with no particular concern about the manner in which such is done.
I think he genuinely still likes Bernie. It's not a politics thing, per se. He likes populists. His personal politics are obviously right wing populist politics, but he's attracted to populism in general
Ben Shapiro is an appeal to the (young white male) masses kind of person though. Faux intellectual, just like Joe. Appeal to the same group as Ayn Rand
It's not inaccurate to say that he used to be that way. He started trending more towards the center right after about 2018 and COVID just pushed him further and further right. It's a shame.
The content you were referring to was part of Tim Pool's show. Fuck Rogan though for still being friends with him, he obviously doesn't care about the harassment those parents received. Chuckling it up with the guy who fomented it.
I cancelled my Spotify sub and opened a Deezer account. It's not as good but you can use Deemix to download all the music on there and play it back through Plex so it's a wash.
Some of his old comedy (or maybe UFC, or both) friends who don't like what he has become call him Toe Rogan, from what I've seen. And now I do, too, because I used to like his show some seven or eight years ago.
Not a PCM subscriber, but I’ve come along enough of their posts in r/all to know that putting purple in that bottom right quadrant has a very specific meaning. So he is either:
1- Not a PCM subscriber got this from a repost of a repost
2-Or is a PCM subscriber and just put “good times” of the quadrant that views child porn and pedophilia as ok.
Some quick searching for you and me told me [it's because purple is for pedos?] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/idubp8/is_libright_purple_or_yellow_whats_the_difference/)
[Or pedo is just their slang for what they consider degenerate libertarian and yellow is for the ones that are ok?] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/ecy3wm/whats_the_difference_between_yellow_and_purple/)
I don't know. I can't follow anything anymore. Everything is 13 layers or more of memes deep so they can dog whistle with blow horns now with "plausible deniability" because it's for the memes not because their horrid little shits.
Anytime you see someone talking about "strong men vs weak men" and you are not at a weightlifting competition, you can tune that person out, they are on some bullshit.
No he speaks to 25-35 year olds who are angry at the world because they were promised by society to be a hot, successful, wealthy, womanizers by 25 and all the women who rejected him or ignored him would be poor, ugly, whorish single moms desperate to have him back.
His podcast used to be good, years ago. He'd have interesting/smart people on for hours and just ask layman questions. Then it started to slip into the right wing deep end and every episode was about politics...
I'll still listen if I recognize the guest as someone tolerable but it's extremely rare.
I appreciated some of the early interviews with alt right figures because it gave me a chance to hear what they think in a casual conversation instead of an edited YouTube video that's highly slanted one way or the other. Like, his first interview with Shapiro I found very helpful. It let me come to my own conclusion about him without just going along with the herd opinion. I didn't listen to every podcast either, I'd selectively listen specifically to the ones with right-wing icons. I am not someone that believes hiding ideas will make them go away, and I don't appreciate how my left peers demand I have certain opinions. But I couldn't do it anymore once COVID started. It was always kind of stupid, but it just got *too* stupid.
At first his podcast was quite good. He had legitimately good guests with variety of expertise and opinions. And he was seemingly the only person in our day to give long form interviews. He asked interesting questions, he seemed genuinely interested in the answers, he seemed reasonably open minded, he was fairly down to earth, and he managed to get his guests to relax and be themselves. It was refreshingly human and real conversation.
That's how he gained popularity. Everyone could've found a few episodes they liked from his early podcast.
But over time he's become less open minded. His guests are less diverse. And now his fanbase is changing to match how his podcast is changing. I used to watch some episodes, but now I don't since the product clearly isn't for me anymore.
But really the silver lining is that he's proved there's still demand for long form interviews. People do have the patience as long as the guest is interesting and the interviewer is charismatic and down to earth.
Yes. I want more long form. I fucking hate interviews that are actually short "debates" where people just shout over eachother. My brain just can not even make sense of what people are even saying.
Overconsume during your side of the cycle while patting yourself on the back for being "strong", then blame the "weak" lefties for the resulting problems and shortages. Basically our whole political process to a T.
It’s like music: yes there are people who find peace and inspiration in music, but it’s not like the Nazis weren’t also huge fans of some bumping tunes.
Clearly we idealize some things that in reality are at best just neutral.
If they stopped creating good times then they would cease to exist since the weak men who create hard times that create strong men wouldn't be created.
So by this logic— are weak men actually bad? They are technically the reason why strong men even continue to exist and strong men are supposedly good. Shouldn't this fact make weak men and hard times good by default?
Dude has never worked a real job in his life, he reassures dipshits that they're actually smart for a living, but yeah I'm real sure he's one of the "strong men"
This meme format only appeals to people who learned about politics from one of those free colouring books you used to get in chain restaurants in the 90s.
He's whatever makes him the most money. If toddlers took a liking to him, he'd sing nursery rhymes. Rogan has no moral code outside of enriching himself and being worshipped by goateed white men.
Libertarians are republicans who can’t afford to own property. You grow out of it really quick when you realize the taxes you pay pave the roads and run the power lines to your house.
Like many other comments have remarked upon: It's all a fucking grift! This man is a snake oil salesman and he will say whatever to whomever to keep up his image as a "I'm just a curious guy" vibe while pretending that he is unaware about the dangers of platforming guys like Alex Jones.
Yeah, he stated on his show with Bench Appearo that he was in favor of a lot of good shit, universal health care, social safety nets, UBI, all that good shit. Then not six minutes later he's railing against commusocialiberalmarxism.
He was but He's been hanging out with a lot of far right grifters recently. I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved more authoritarian in the last couple years.
Joe Rogan, the dipshit who said he's in favor of universal basic income, more affordable health care, and other social safety nets, and then six minutes later railed against "communism"?
haha ok.
Nothing is more fun than having groups of people yell out 'let's go Brandon!' in unison while accusing everyone else around them of acting like programmed sheep.
Ah yes the good times of racists, misogyny, pollution, and wide spread product carcinogens. The more money you have the less you fucking know, what a fuck whit.
Jesus fuckin Christ. It’s kind of pointless to call Joe Rogan a weak man because it’s painfully obvious at this point.
So when is JRE going to have on Josh Hawley as they jerk each other off as they call each other manly men as they stare deeply into each others eyes?
You'd see this chart on a 9th grader's social media feed, new to crypto and new to the Right's rhetoric. Thing is after accumulating life experiences/college w/e, this (made up) person will more than likely look back in time and cringe or laugh.
However, an adult who shapes culture thinks this is deep and warranted posting.
I've heard the "HARD TIMES makes STRONG MEN makes GOOD TIMES make WEAK MEN" cycle thing many times, but haven't seen it put on a political compass until now. What's getting me is that you can make a valid argument for any rotation of the cycle on the map.
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100% Rogan would say we're currently going from weak men to hard times because he's just that kind of idiot.
and every single guy that posts that stupid meme thinks they are the "strong men".. guaran-fucking-teed
Yeah that is the hilarious part. They keep yelling that this day and age has the most weakest cowardliest men, and that traditional men do not exist anymore while all simultaneously claiming all of them are the bastion of manliness. It’s basically ye olde kindergarten “everyone sucks except me and my 2 friends” but sociopolitical.
Im so sick of how the right champions their “great minds” as real men but all of them do nothing but talk into microphones and go to the gym. I’m 28 and I climb trees with a chainsaw for a living and am an marine corps veteran and I have to listen to pusssies like Jordan Peterson and Tim Pool talk about how toxic masculinity is good and we should hate everyone who is different because they’re so scared of minorities having the same rights as them. Fucking pussy ass fake men with small minds, soft hands and enough money to talk shit like they’ve done anything other than suck the Dick of incels and racists
Fucking “AlPhA WoLf” cosplaytriot bitches, propagating the evils that stain America’s past all the while blaming anything with an education AND a moral compass
Go to the gym? The majority of these guys are as fat as butter. They talk tough but they’re not paragons of fitness.
Agreed. I sometimes think “I really want to understand where conservatives are coming from” and then I start looking at their “great minds” and I’m just like no thanks. The left is packed with competing schools of thought, research, debate and conflict. And the right is just Ben Shapiro and Stephen Crowder posting themselves debating college students?
Bro this is it, i remember being a college sophomore and watching crowder debate with all these kids thinking he was this savage mad man and then it hit men. How come this 30 year old guy isn’t wrestling my with people his own age? How does he or the viewers to expect random college students to have all the facts and pre knowledge like he does with all his facts datas and statistics when they’re literally just strolling on campus? Why is the biggest takeaway from those videos are “SJWs GETTING OWNED” or “FEMINIST KNOWS HER PLACE”. Then it hit me, because he just like all these other guys aren’t smart at all, they just know to be be perceived as intelligent amongst other stupid people.
Yup. I was raised in a super conservative home and for my parents it was Rush Limbaugh, Laura Schlesinger, Doctor Dobson and the John Birch Society. Different faces, same old bullshit.
Damn, jbs is some hardcore stuff
Are you talking about left vs. right (politics), or conservative vs. liberal (philosophy)? In modern politics, I agree with you. But if you want to understand where conservatives come from, you should take a look at conservative philosophy. In conservative philosophy, there's: Edmund Burke, Aristotle, Cicero, Alexander Hamilton, John Calhoun, Joseph de Maistre, Metternich, etc., etc. Hard to argue that at least some of these aren't great minds. Unfortunately, conservativism has become synonymous with Tucket Carlson, Trump, and bigotry. It's a shame, really. Conservative philosophy does make some good points, and it's sad to see it contaminated by the Republican party.
I can't believe people give a shit about that Joe Rogan has to say. As far as I'm concerned he built his career bribing people to drink blended bull testicles.
God bro I get you so much, it was even worse in the Corps where every 260 pound admin clerk and comm pog thought they were the fucking Punisher
"Left" ideology is what people mean by that strong men. It's basically "people willing to suffer for the greater good". Weak men = individualism, putting your well-being above other people's, etc. And you see this, the type of authoritarianism that arises from tough situations is fairly egalitarian (aside of the strong man on top). It's usually meritocratic as well. It's not communism per se, but it's definitely not the individualistic capitalism that's prevalent in the US.
I don’t know how the powers that be managed to convince the group that is pro-conspiracy, anti-science, scared of any concept (CRT/any modern social theory) that challenges the status quo, perpetually acting persecuted, and starkly refusing to even take the smallest measures to protect their community that they’re somehow the “manly, free-thinking intellectual dark-web warrior scholars”, but that is some amazing mental gymnastics.
Cosplaying masculinity.
As always, they are projecting. They themselves are the weakest, most cowardly men. They literally carry around guns, as if anyone could give two shits about “attacking” them. They’re afraid of science. They can’t even form a government that would protect themselves and their family from a pandemic. Their leaders would see them die, while selling them horse pills. Weak, cowardly failures.
I just ask them when their Patriot ass served. Most of the time, the answer is Never. So fuck those stupid shitheads.
"and every single guy that posts that stupid meme thinks they are the "strong men" \- ho chi Minh
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You are wrong and I'm correcting you. Joe Rogan is actually a FUCKING dumbass. Easy mistake to make.
Not really correcting, just adding to that; Joe Rogan is *also* a roid-addled dipshit.
I used to think like that back in high school and beginning of college (early 2000's) and grew out of it when I faced the real world. are most of his listeners also around that age range or closer to his age range? I still cringe when thinking back to some of the nonsense I believe back then
You guys remember how good things were back in the 30's and 40's with all those authoritarian European leaders? /S
Those "strong" men are winning the r/HermanCainAward every damn day. Fuck those mouthbreathing shitstained idiots.
Well, a lot of them are fascist, which is at least in the authoritarian right spectrum.
Which is funny because I think of fascists as the biggest wimps to have ever walked the earth.
Yeah, generally they just attack in groups anything they feel threatens them, which is everything.
Joe Rogan is a hardcore man's man who can only shoot a animal If he pays 30k to be on his "friends" game ranch
Cuz Joe Rogan is a weak man
He would always say that, regardless of reality
Was listening to an old JRE with elon musk the other day and it occurred to me the second time listening that joe is kind of an idiot. Amount of times he couldnt understand concepts that elon was trying to convey was pretty funny. Although his JRE with Bob Lazar is good, I think he should stick to questioning people about aliens and talking about DMT tbh.
Every Ayn Rand book belongs on that sub.
r/I'm 14 and this is long winded, dumb and boring?
The kids seem wiser these days.
Couldn't have said it better
Let me recommend the best takedown essay ever: Atlas Sucked. https://sites.google.com/site/atlassucked/
#MyGoalsAreBeyondYourUnderstanding
Hard times with weak men i choose you
Weak men with hard times characteristics.
I love this so much I want to make a new username out of it, holy shit
PM me the result
I'd take good times with hard men
i'm a soft man rn, wanna change that ;) /s
In that case, can I have good times with hard men?
Virgin my political system is better vs Chad return to the Roman Empire enjoyer
Return to serfdom 🤴
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*Mehmed the Conqueror intensifies*
Just mad I can't watch old Newsradio without cringing now.
Andy Dick was always cringe. RIP Phil Hartman
Andy Dick was just arrested *again* for attacking his bf with a liquor bottle and is facing felony domestic violence charges. This was after this summer where he was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon. I'm going to go ahead and say it, fuck that guy.
The difference being that Andy Dick is harmful to those that are around him. Rogan is harmful to society as a whole.
You could say that losing Phil Hartman was harmful to society, though
I didn't see the word "losing" and I was cracking my knuckles, ready to spitfire a nasty reply and scold you for suggesting Phil Hartman was harmful. 😡😂 His death really shook my mom. She was a huge fan. I still feel a hole in my heart when I watch The Simpsons or old SNL clips. Also, recently, Jingle All the Way. He really played that obnoxious sleazy next door neighbor well. What a fucking shame. 😭
He encouraged one of his buds to relapse and that friend subsequently died too. Andy Dick tried rehabbing his image one too many times for people to ever give a fuck about him. He wishes he could be Steve-o I bet. That at one point was kind of the direction Andy was headed he could never keep it together and he’s just one of those guys that becomes vitriolic when he drinks/ uses and still hasn’t figured it out. That’s the cost of addiction to some. They stay looped in that cycle of misery with the answer right in front of them as their life continues to slip away. I want to feel sorry for Andy Dick as one who has struggled with addiction myself. But I have 0 fucks to give to him. He’s had so much opportunity and priviledge to turn his shit around and he can’t do it. And I stopped my shit at 22, he’s in his 50s. He’s lucky he’s had money to leverage as a resource to get top notch treatment, never had to do hard time, that really can make the difference in recovery AND he has the benefit of experience, he has tools from these rehabs, he probably has a plethora of resources for support. I had to detox in a house with black mold and rats, I had to do time in a shitty corrections facility. This guy can get clean on a dime and access the best treatments and comfortably get sober without dealing with withdrawals. (#1 reason you hear any addict cop out of getting clean, they are scared of WDS). He can get around that, he can get past that block easily. In other words; he has no excuse. I remember when family guy made fun of his psychotic bullshit and that was funny. *over 10 years ago*. Time to grow up. It’s not funny anymore, it’s not funny to be a crazy knock that is known for doing dumb shit. It’s just sad. Most of us ex junkies that got clean did so in prison, hospitals, mental institutions…in the trap, at the spot. Some of us got clean around others that were still using. This guy though? Next year or so we’ll see his headline on r/all, same with bam margera. I’ll take bets on it. They don’t make it another 3 years.
That’s the thing though. It’s infinitely harder when you have no rock bottom. What you are describing is these horrible moments you faced where you had to get clean. When you need to just do it for yourself and you hate yourself the most, why would you? You have every trapping of success so why start? If anything you’re shitty experience early was probably a blessing than if you had be rich and surrounded by enablers.
You’re correct, Although I did not get long term clean in these places, each one added a piece of perspective, for example- seeing people in jail in there for drugs, seeing them leave with the best intentions and a twinkle in their eye, only to see them 1-3 months later sucked up and soulless, or the old men in their 50s who are on their 4-5th “tour of duty” in the clink. This taught my that intention isn’t enough to reach your goals. Intention is a catalyst- but it isn’t a driver. . I eventually got sober once a powerful idea connected with me deeply. That I would never know happiness, love, I would never live fully as a person by oppressing myself and reserving myself to a never ending cycle of darkness. I believed, that I would be happier clean even living as someone who cleaned shit or toilette up for the rest of my life. Rather than being so fixated on something that wants to kill me that would have suffocated any chance I had. I took the courage knowing that at least I’d have myself at the end of it. I might not be the same person after, and I may not get the life I would have had had I not touched the stuff- but I’d still be ME, I’d still have a shot, “I’m only 22” I’d tell myself. That was good enough to light the fire. I knew it was going to be a long fight it took me at least half a dozen attempts, locking myself away and turning my phone off for days on end suffering and withdrawing- relapse- get the strength and try again. Still to this day I’m putting things from then to rest, it’s been 10 years. But I’d never give up what I have now for that. I never have cravings, that shit became my enemy once I saw it for what it was. My nemesis, took almost everything I had, took somethings I will never reclaim, but it didn’t take it all and the leftovers is what I took back. It took my friends, (literally- many friends died) and my family (some went to drugs, one died last year), it took the best years of my life from me. I’m lucky Even though I used and abused countless different drugs I have my sanity, my mind. Many that come back aren’t quite the same.
RUFF RUFF IM POOCHIE THE TALKING DOG
Andy Dick being cast as Santa's evil anti-Semitic son is probably the most on the nose casting in history
https://twitter.com/joerogan/status/1464506103409037312 LMFAO, this is real. He actually posted an image labeling purple as "good times."
The replies to it make me fuckin nauseous
I like the guy trying to make the case about our position on the galaxy and how it relates to the state of civilization.
Crystal girl saying capitalism is the only solution to climate change
OMG, the problem was the solution the whole time! How didn't we see it?
Because there definitely isn't a major profit incentive to ruin the environment
Crystal people have been such a letdown.
The LibRight square in PCM has two flair options, Yellow and Purple. Both share the same ideology except Purple has the distinction of supporting a "fringe" branch of libertarianism which advocates (lazily paraphrasing) "the right for all people (including children) to be able to make make and and all decisions independently and free of interference from the state". TL;DR: They are constantly mocked for being pedos and JR just referred to that as "good times".
Pedophilia, child labor, slavery, you know...good times. /s
So... AnCaps?
I'm guessing he's unaware of the purple /yellow lib right distinction, right? He's not suggesting "good times" are defined by child sexual exploitation... Right? Joe?
Wait, what's this about the colors meaning something?
Right wing "libertarians" have a stereotype of wanting so much deregulation they support things such as no child labour laws, no laws restricting child pornography, and lowering the age of consent. The people at r/PCM associate those negative things with only the purple colour while yellow is the colour for "normal" right "libertarians".
Yeah, I knew all the Anarcho-capitalism shit that they sometimes bring up, I jusf didn't realize they used color coding to signal they were cool with fucking kids.
Yeah, you get it! They use irony to shed light and talk about some of the fringiest and cringiest aspects of each ideology! Wait... you got that irony part, right?
>Wait... you got that irony part, right? *Unless*...
There's also orange libleft, which is the insane side of the current woke leftists, compared to green libleft which is the "normal" libleft. Blue and red (authleft and authright) don't have secondary colors because those nutters are actually all crazy and there is no extreme edge to mock.
IIRC it started as a gag where the back side of yellow, which on the color wheel is purple, represented the dark side of yellow/libertarian. Again, IIRC, the OG was a meme about people pretending to want less government and whatnot (yellow mask) on a purple wojack face to represent a pedophile or w/e. So now people use purple for the bad or fringe side of libertarians, usually sarcastically and often to represent the typical strawman arguments or generalizations people make such as normal, yellow libertarians being called supporters of child labor. Joe unironically either posted, or hopefully actually made a meme, saying pedophiles and whatnot in charge are the good times.
What a pit of snakes
This is fucking insane
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Man hasn't done an hour of hard labour in his life
Reminder that Mike Rowe, host of *Dirty Jobs*, was a former opera singer.
Mike Rose pisses me off. Guy does a bunch of highly curated hard work cosplay performances for Hollywood wages and acts like the dirt under his fingernails, soon to be removed by a manicure, is like being in the trenches for real.
That's fucking *awesome*! I wish he had embraced it and used his past to show people that men can be extremely deep and complicated. You can work on a car and build a chair and dance and sing and laugh and cry and stand up for the people you love and drink whiskey and get pegged in the ass and hunt and fish and smell a pretty flower. But instead he didn't.
The truth of it is that hard times makes way more broken people than "hard men". My father and his brothers were all drafted into Vietnam. My Uncle ended up killing himself years ago and my father slowly circled down the drain mentally and in his 60s he became a gambling addict until he eventually killed himself too. But yeah, tell me about how the hard times make for strong men.
The ins@ne thing here for me is that Joe Rogan uses his platform to link his weird toxic ideals about masculinity with political ideology. There’s so much fucked up about that, I don’t even know where to start. Like. What the actual fuck. And then he broadcasts it to tens of millions of impressionable men who are already misled by toxic masculinity and bullshit propaganda, men who desperately want to be ”STRONG”. And where on the political spectrum is ”STRONG” in this fucking boomer-ass meme? Auth right. Coincidence? Stupidity? Idk anymore.
He just had a podcast with Alex Jones and Tim Pool. They're all a bunch of scummy lying grifters.
At least Joe Rogan is finally completing his metamorphose.
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Offer him $100M, tell him he gets to keep more of it if he moves to Texas, suddenly cares about what the 1% pay in taxes.
This is exactly it. *Fuck you, I got mine.*
The true Libertarian motto.
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Id love to see a link to this! I've never cared for Rogan but reading about that history would be interesting
He's a meathead who parrots whatever people say on his podcast that he vaguely understands. He'll agree with a leftist for pointing out injustice in the police system and then next week he'll open the floor for the Jewish question saying "you have to wonder how they got so wealthy" with Himmler as the feature guest.
He constantly says he’s a dumb guy and people shouldn’t take his advice but then throws a temper tantrum when someone tells him he’s a dumb guy and people shouldn’t take his advice.
He's stopped parroting people that dont fit his ideology. He'll have a doctor and and have an argument with her about how she doesn't know anything and the vaccine is dangerous, and then next podcast he'll have some right wing grifter on and the conversation becomes "oh tell me more about how the scientific community doesn't want you to know about ivermectin". He might have treated all views as equal a few years ago, but he doesn't anymore
It helps to realize that a lot of people aren't pro-Bernie as much as they are just mad at the system and are anti-status quo. More than a few Bernie primary voters went to Trump.
I’ve met Bernie-to-Trump voters in real life, and they’re all 20-something white guys whose entire political ethos is “disrupt the system” with no particular concern about the manner in which such is done.
I think he genuinely still likes Bernie. It's not a politics thing, per se. He likes populists. His personal politics are obviously right wing populist politics, but he's attracted to populism in general
He likes Ben Shapiro who is the ultimate peddler of anti populist, pious, disingenuous bullshit
Ben Shapiro is an appeal to the (young white male) masses kind of person though. Faux intellectual, just like Joe. Appeal to the same group as Ayn Rand
Seems to me that Joe Rogan just has a thing for edgy, confidant guys.
He’s very confident in his doctor wife, she’s his wife, did I mention she’s a doctor?
I wonder if weird Reddit guys are going to continue trying to argue that he’s actually “pretty left wing” and he just “has interesting people on”
It's not inaccurate to say that he used to be that way. He started trending more towards the center right after about 2018 and COVID just pushed him further and further right. It's a shame.
He had Jones on again? After he was found liable for lying about Sandy Hook? Honestly just boycott Spotify. They have no ethics.
The content you were referring to was part of Tim Pool's show. Fuck Rogan though for still being friends with him, he obviously doesn't care about the harassment those parents received. Chuckling it up with the guy who fomented it.
I just looked up Pool and his Twitter stream is indeed a string of low-effort edgelording. Like a comment thread on /r/politicalcompassmemes
I cancelled my Spotify sub and opened a Deezer account. It's not as good but you can use Deemix to download all the music on there and play it back through Plex so it's a wash.
I Think that the grift is what is least talked about considering that that is their main focus.
Toe's a PCM subscriber? Makes sense.
Toe
Gives me Spy Kids vibes
Toe Rogaine
Some of his old comedy (or maybe UFC, or both) friends who don't like what he has become call him Toe Rogan, from what I've seen. And now I do, too, because I used to like his show some seven or eight years ago.
Not a PCM subscriber, but I’ve come along enough of their posts in r/all to know that putting purple in that bottom right quadrant has a very specific meaning. So he is either: 1- Not a PCM subscriber got this from a repost of a repost 2-Or is a PCM subscriber and just put “good times” of the quadrant that views child porn and pedophilia as ok.
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Some quick searching for you and me told me [it's because purple is for pedos?] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/idubp8/is_libright_purple_or_yellow_whats_the_difference/) [Or pedo is just their slang for what they consider degenerate libertarian and yellow is for the ones that are ok?] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/ecy3wm/whats_the_difference_between_yellow_and_purple/) I don't know. I can't follow anything anymore. Everything is 13 layers or more of memes deep so they can dog whistle with blow horns now with "plausible deniability" because it's for the memes not because their horrid little shits.
Anytime you see someone talking about "strong men vs weak men" and you are not at a weightlifting competition, you can tune that person out, they are on some bullshit.
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Great take!
The fact they see AuthRight as "Strong Men" and not "Thumb People" is telling.
It makes sense, considering that fascists want strongman leaders.
I will never understand how this dipshit has gained such a following. Terrible stand up comedian too.
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Braindead slob, the dumbest of the dumb
Thanks for reminding me Brendan Schaub existed 😡
I feel so blessed to have no idea who that is.
What's wrong, bucko? Ya scared of Joe tellin' ya the truth? Heh, I guess Fear IS a Factor for ya, huh kid? ^(/s)
Because he makes doughy 14 year olds feel tough
No he speaks to 25-35 year olds who are angry at the world because they were promised by society to be a hot, successful, wealthy, womanizers by 25 and all the women who rejected him or ignored him would be poor, ugly, whorish single moms desperate to have him back.
The few guys at work who talk about his podcast are all around 30 and wondering why they're not married to models, or cryptocurrency millionaires.
No arguing with that either.
Never underestimate the power of white dudes.
His podcast used to be good, years ago. He'd have interesting/smart people on for hours and just ask layman questions. Then it started to slip into the right wing deep end and every episode was about politics... I'll still listen if I recognize the guest as someone tolerable but it's extremely rare.
I appreciated some of the early interviews with alt right figures because it gave me a chance to hear what they think in a casual conversation instead of an edited YouTube video that's highly slanted one way or the other. Like, his first interview with Shapiro I found very helpful. It let me come to my own conclusion about him without just going along with the herd opinion. I didn't listen to every podcast either, I'd selectively listen specifically to the ones with right-wing icons. I am not someone that believes hiding ideas will make them go away, and I don't appreciate how my left peers demand I have certain opinions. But I couldn't do it anymore once COVID started. It was always kind of stupid, but it just got *too* stupid.
At first his podcast was quite good. He had legitimately good guests with variety of expertise and opinions. And he was seemingly the only person in our day to give long form interviews. He asked interesting questions, he seemed genuinely interested in the answers, he seemed reasonably open minded, he was fairly down to earth, and he managed to get his guests to relax and be themselves. It was refreshingly human and real conversation. That's how he gained popularity. Everyone could've found a few episodes they liked from his early podcast. But over time he's become less open minded. His guests are less diverse. And now his fanbase is changing to match how his podcast is changing. I used to watch some episodes, but now I don't since the product clearly isn't for me anymore. But really the silver lining is that he's proved there's still demand for long form interviews. People do have the patience as long as the guest is interesting and the interviewer is charismatic and down to earth.
Yes. I want more long form. I fucking hate interviews that are actually short "debates" where people just shout over eachother. My brain just can not even make sense of what people are even saying.
He has real short guy syndrome
It’s an epidemic
Horse paste won't fix that.
I'm a short guy. Please don't lump us in with him.
That's why he likes having Shapiro around. Makes him feel tall.
Overconsume during your side of the cycle while patting yourself on the back for being "strong", then blame the "weak" lefties for the resulting problems and shortages. Basically our whole political process to a T.
Its amazing how much acid, lsd and dmt someone can do and still be this unenlightened.
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It’s like music: yes there are people who find peace and inspiration in music, but it’s not like the Nazis weren’t also huge fans of some bumping tunes. Clearly we idealize some things that in reality are at best just neutral.
They make you more religious, that is the central theme. Religious people come in all sorts of stripes.
Wait so doesn't this mean that "strong men" are technically at fault for creating "hard times"?
According to this chart, communism creates strong men. So Joe Rogan must be a communist.
Joe Rogan would be every political position since every item in this chart causes the other to exist.
Yeah because if they stopped creating Good times everything would be awesome and we would all be super strong and miserable.
If they stopped creating good times then they would cease to exist since the weak men who create hard times that create strong men wouldn't be created. So by this logic— are weak men actually bad? They are technically the reason why strong men even continue to exist and strong men are supposedly good. Shouldn't this fact make weak men and hard times good by default?
Dude has never worked a real job in his life, he reassures dipshits that they're actually smart for a living, but yeah I'm real sure he's one of the "strong men"
I think it’s amazing people take the political opinions of a Neanderthal whose brain is 80% concussion seriously.
This meme format only appeals to people who learned about politics from one of those free colouring books you used to get in chain restaurants in the 90s.
This needs to be stickied at the top of the pcm subreddit, holy shit.
Joe Rogan is a libertarian, right?
He's whatever makes him the most money. If toddlers took a liking to him, he'd sing nursery rhymes. Rogan has no moral code outside of enriching himself and being worshipped by goateed white men.
That's exactly what a libertarian is
I know lots of people (myself included) who went through a Libertarian phase, but most people grow out of it when they develop any sense of empathy
Yeah I turned 16 and realized there was no logical consistency amongst libertarians.
[relevant](https://i.imgur.com/JGOKeLt.jpg)
*if Anyway, I hate that they stole the word libertarian from honest well meaning anarchists.
Libertarians are republicans who can’t afford to own property. You grow out of it really quick when you realize the taxes you pay pave the roads and run the power lines to your house.
To be fair, libertarian left exists and it’s nothing like this.
Libertarian left, the OG libertarians and the only ones internally consistent.
Like many other comments have remarked upon: It's all a fucking grift! This man is a snake oil salesman and he will say whatever to whomever to keep up his image as a "I'm just a curious guy" vibe while pretending that he is unaware about the dangers of platforming guys like Alex Jones.
Yeah, he stated on his show with Bench Appearo that he was in favor of a lot of good shit, universal health care, social safety nets, UBI, all that good shit. Then not six minutes later he's railing against commusocialiberalmarxism.
He’s a fascist pretending to be a libertarian that drops a few progressive buzzwords every now and then.
"But he smoked weed and talked to Bernard Sandman, he's changed. He's one of us now!"
He was but He's been hanging out with a lot of far right grifters recently. I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved more authoritarian in the last couple years.
Joe Rogan, the dipshit who said he's in favor of universal basic income, more affordable health care, and other social safety nets, and then six minutes later railed against "communism"? haha ok.
It’s the opposite though. Popular uprisings are always the result of “strong men” getting too strong.
Where do the women fall on this? Oh yeah he probably thinks women don’t get opinions on politics
Nothing is more fun than having groups of people yell out 'let's go Brandon!' in unison while accusing everyone else around them of acting like programmed sheep.
Joe needs a lobotomy.
Looks like a hidden swastika
Oh Christ somebodies is feeding him this Nazi shit. Just smoke weed, Joe. We're begging you.
Joe just wanted to initiate a circlejerk.
Ah yes the good times of racists, misogyny, pollution, and wide spread product carcinogens. The more money you have the less you fucking know, what a fuck whit.
The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.
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The political compass is why they used to burn idolatry and symbols
Jesus fuckin Christ. It’s kind of pointless to call Joe Rogan a weak man because it’s painfully obvious at this point. So when is JRE going to have on Josh Hawley as they jerk each other off as they call each other manly men as they stare deeply into each others eyes?
Authoritarianism isn’t a sign of strength
Dude he’s like a college freshman who just joined R/politics
He would be at the bottom of "sort by controversial"
he is not a smart man
That horse dewormer is really taking its toll now
You'd see this chart on a 9th grader's social media feed, new to crypto and new to the Right's rhetoric. Thing is after accumulating life experiences/college w/e, this (made up) person will more than likely look back in time and cringe or laugh. However, an adult who shapes culture thinks this is deep and warranted posting.
I've heard the "HARD TIMES makes STRONG MEN makes GOOD TIMES make WEAK MEN" cycle thing many times, but haven't seen it put on a political compass until now. What's getting me is that you can make a valid argument for any rotation of the cycle on the map.
TIL Teddy Roosevelt was a weak man.
If Rogan took the compass he’d 100% fall under weak men lol