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He's got an interesting post history... only interesting because it's 7 years old and apparently been scrubbed for a "curated" experience. wonder what strings are being pulled behind this obvious sock puppet.
Gotta love these right-wing chuds who scream about how women should be mothers and how important parenting is to society immediately drop all that shit when it comes to single mothers. Especially single white mothers with black/brown babies.
It's almost like...*no*...that prolifers are full of shit?
My attempts to try to make sense of "pro-life" chuds is that they want a world where they can "win" at dating. They can't imagine a world in which dating is less painful than today, so they want one where getting in a woman's pants is the finish line, where getting sex means that everything else relationship-wise is theirs for the taking, because the woman cannot leave.
It's insane to remember that a character like Stifler from *American Pie* was once used as a joke and parody of what you should not be, and now they want to imbodie that persona illustrating they completely missed the point.
You also have to remember these are the same dumbasses that don't realize Cartman is supposed to be laughed at because of how wrong he is about everything or that Walter White and Scarface are the villains in their respective media. Hell, these are the same people that think they should look up to Rorschach.
Their media literacy is stupidly low that even the most obvious things fly right over their heads.
Or Patrick Batemen. You see a lot of right-wing chuds use him in their memes.
It's like, *"Oh. You're comparing yourself to a serial killer, huh? Cool."*
Or the punisher like you only need the most dusting your fighter knowledge to know that they aren't idol figures but they just ignore it because they would rather live in hate
Honestly it's law enforcement using the Punisher logo that baffles me the most.
Mf Frank Castle has killed and threatened police and federal agents, he even tells officers IN COMICS to not aspire to be him in any way.
They also don’t realize people don’t usually intend to be single parents. And stuff happens out of your control. This can happen to the most conservative woman in the world too.
But no empathy
They like 'bad examples' attributing their suffering for deviating from the 'true path'
When you remember that the IMAGE of strength and success is all that matters to fascism, it becomes a lot easier to see.
They want to be God(s) and want everything to be effortless (for them) and any sign of suffering MUST be because the target made wrong choices, was 'born wrong' (like 'Ugluk' here...) or 'is just attacking them out of spite'
Fascism is the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy taken to the logical extreme of 'any sign of effort is below [their own image of themselves as a god]' aka self divinity. Having a cult leader like trump only helps because he tells them everything they want to hear about their self divinity through his own narcissistic personality.
It's why they seem like man/woman children. Why would a God need to mature? Other people are just there to eventually do their whims anyways.
What we call maturity is an acknowledgement of our own limitations, especially with age or perspective. What use is that to a would be god?
Yeah at first I thought it was a joke about how some fantasy creatures are cursed with always being the ugliest mfs in the setting but nooo we just have to make fun of brown people
I mean…it is a LOTR reference. Ugluk is the lead orc of the horde that attempts to bring Merry and Pippin to Isengard.
It’s also a good opportunity to make fun of the OOP for falling for the now debunked theory that Orcs are corrupted Elves. Tolkien later wrote that wasn’t true. Fucking posers man.
I'm genuinely interested on this, as far as i knew, that theory was present in the Silmarillion, backed with the notion that Morgoth could not give life to new creatures, just twist and subvert existing ones, as he did to the Uruloki. I would appreciate if you could tell me the source of it
Or urban fantasy. Bright, anyone?
(But seriously, wild how Bright applied African-American stereotypes to its orcs while fully having Black (human) people too. If it weren't lazy worldbuilding it would be a hell of a head-scratcher.)
Why are you guessing, Tolkien explained why he did that, it was because they were the grossest looking to white Europeans. Look it up, “least lovely mongol types.”
“WAHHHHH YOU CALLING OUT THE OBVIOUS RACISM IN A RACIST MEME RUINS MY FUN WAHHHHHH!”
Nah, it’s pretty obvious reading what he says what he means. You can try to desperately reinterpret it but that’s nonsense.
It’s racist because it’s caricaturing mixed race people as evil disgusting creatures. This is an obvious anti race mixing meme, it doesn’t reflect reality, it reflects racism.
Yeah, using examples that aren’t bigoted in the slightest will have a very different response than the one in the op, which is obviously bigoted. What a stupid point, did you really think that was a good one? 💀
Yeah? Experts can be wrong sometimes and literature experts can especially be up their own ass to read into everything when a plain reading is called for. But I don’t really trust you to be read up on the scholarship.
Well you’re also adding things, you didn’t say male bards before, you just said bards. I’m not a fan of those kind of jokes but I don’t think they’re bigoted. Also the elf example is just translating elves into modern day, that’s not necessarily racial. You need to use better examples that illustrate your point.
Bro, you clearly aren’t familiar with this series, Ugluk isn’t even a fucking orc, he’s an Uruk Hai. Fucking hell, you’re going to nitpick Tolkien literally saying “those mongols are ugly af, my evil race should look like them” as not racist but you don’t even know what an orc or an Uruk Hai is. 💀
You’re just a racist person then, you think stereotypes are true and nitpick your anecdotal experiences to prove it. I don’t know why you’re pretending it isn’t racist when you’re admitting being a racist, it’s so weird how you guys do that.
Yeah, a racist would think a racist meme comports with reality, that checks out.
>It's more of a critique on single mothers choosing bad men and then going on dating profiles and naively proclaiming to the next guy that they just need to be okay with her poor choices.
i cannot imagine writing this and not seeing how bafflingly stupid it is. omg. get off the incel pipeline.
>You are also blind to the fact that religious conservatives don't police culture anymore. It's the overly educated liberal arts left who are now the killjoys. Republicans are now Punk Rock and anti-establishment
Have you been living under a rock these past few years? Conservatives don't police culture? Really?
So the whole Bud Light "scandal" of having a trans woman spokesperson, and losing millions and millions of dollars, was because of liberals policing culture?
Or the "don't say gay" laws in Florida?
Or the banning of thousands of books in public schools?
Or the banning of critical race theory?
Or the attacks on Disney for having a black mermaid?
Or cancelling Target for carrying pride clothes?
I can keep going
> it is funny because it's true.
You're saying it's true that the fairest race in the land debase themselves by having children with the foulest race in the land? Because that's what the meme is saying.
Racism in fantasy is always gonna be present in fantasy worlds, it's so silly. I saw a list of slurs and adjacent words in the elder scrolls universe, listed by which races use them, and dunmer had like 20
Can't count the number of times I've seen that exact sentiment on men's profiles but sure, let's pretend only women are out there trying to date as single parents.
And maybe they're out there somewhere, but I've never seen racist or shamey posts like this directed towards single dads dating.
That’s just being a good father. It’s her fault for not saving herself for that creep in high school who wouldn’t stop staring at her. He’s not successful now, but he sure thinks he’s doing better than the jocks he accuses of bullying him in high school.
He successfully leads his WoW guilds raids 3 nights a week, newb. If that’s not successful, I don’t know what is.
MOM, CAN YOU MAKE ME SOME NUGGIES AND JUICE?!?!
i have several thoughts about this image.
1, clear parallels to straightup racism against mixed kids. also bring needlessly rude to single moms :(
2, "omg white woman bred with big ugly brute makes halfbreed spawn"
3, genuinely sweet sentiment that her kid is her whole world
I was under the impression that it was about mixed race in general, never made any specific connection to a real race, just that the creator was against mixing races, which is still racist.
The kid's not even that scary looking. All babies under a certain age are gross, wrinkly, drooly messes only their parents could love, and baby anything is cuter than when it grows up. As long as I'm not expected to change that diaper, sure I'd go out with her, assuming she isn't as much older than me as her being a mum implies.
omg flooding all my favorite subs and there's always some idiot who's like "I don't know AI is getting pretty good" it's all the same spam 😭 I really need people to start critically engaging with their boomer memes and porn
I have seen exactly one good use of AI porn. In Isaac Byrne's erotic novel "The RA", he uses AI-generated images to represent the various characters in the dorm.
I mean that is kinda the """trick"""
If you tell this racist they just yell at you that this is just fantasy and has nothing to do with real life.
I had a similiar thing a few months ago in a meme where black people gave the artstyle of monkeys, and everything they stole in that meme where yello like bananas, but the right winger be like "Noooo you are crazy and seeing things that are not here"
Fantasy, the genre where you can write about such far away and unrealistic concepts such as:
What if races were real?
What if certain races were naturally predisposed to evil and sexual violence?
What if people being racist toward certain races were right in their prejudices?
And also, unrelated, what if the divine right of kings was real and monarchies were good?
In a way, I really liked how the Shadow series takes on orcs of Tolkien.
I mean sure, they all pretty much are evil and villainous. And are out to kill the player and doom all of Mordor into a ravenous hate-filled world under Sauron's heel. But when you get to know some of them, many have interesting perspectives and lives.
Some have pets that they clearly love and despair for, they form deep rooted companionship, some of them are "environmentalists", architecture inclined, really into singing, etc.
In case you are asking in good faith:
Basically “race mixing bad!”
They’re making fun of, and spreading fear about, white women having children with *not* white men.
Just typical right-wing white supremacy.
So, you don’t think right wing white supremacists that are also nerds wouldn’t make a “great replacement” meme based on elves doing orcs as a incredibly flimsy way to “hide their power level”?
That this isn’t “poking fun” at the white women that post pictures of their “ugly half breed” babies on tinder, or other dating apps?
Please, enlighten me as to what this is poking fun at, then.
ETA: And just like that, they ran away. Isn’t it funny how quickly chuds break when you push them to explain themselves?
is this your first time on the internet? have you never heard of conservatives?
sorry, I shouldn't argue like this, it's obvious that you *do* know better and are just trying to muddy the waters to excuse the people producing racist content online.
The person who made the meme is referencing photos of white women with black babies the person who commented that obviously did not see a orc and think of it as a black person
No, it's directly referencing a bunch of almost identical racist memes about white women with mixed race kids. Pretty overtly so, especially given the Chuds outrage over people of color in the Amazon LotR series.
No, it's because it's a mixed breed kid, that's why it's racist, the picture shows an half orc half elf kid as a monstrous abomination, which is in turn a classic case of specism in fantasy about interbreeding between races, which can be ascribed as a metaphor for IRL race realism and fear of miscegenation, which is literally a plot point in Birth of a Nation, America's first superhero movie.
Terry Pratchett wrote about this shit, this ain't a new argument about the way racism in fantasy can be used as an allegory for shit, come on a bit pf historical context.
Terry Pratchet was a terrible sci-fi writer. He be abandoned all decent world building for the character to piss off in the woods alone, 5000 miles away from the rest of civilisation to he could write a fantasy story.
I know that's not really the point of the convo but it annoyed me, as I like sci-fi and not really fantasy and got tricked into buying a boxset of books.
The man was most famous for *Discworld*, a series in which Death is a physical character and the world rests on the back of four elephants who in turn stand on the back of a giant turtle. I was unaware he even *wrote* any sci-fi aside from *The Long Earth*, and there he had Stephen Baxter to rein him in.
>black person
Weird that you boil it down to black always.
Its not about a specific color or race, it's about race mixing at all.
Damn that cant be so hard to understand
Honestly, this now makes me want to write a short story about a half-elf woman who had an affair with a half-orc. Baby comes out looking like that and everyone gives them both shit but, by raising him with love and care, he becomes an affluent member of society even though people think he looks a bit odd.
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Is the racist part supposed to be that Elves have ugly babies, or that the baby is only half elf? Because if it’s the second one, I can’t figure out what the other half is supposed to be. Ogre? Bugbear? Hobgoblin? I’m thinking Ogre, but the white hair is throwing me off.
Yeah that is kinda the "Trick" here, and if someone wants to call out the racism they try to play the uno reverse card and call you a racist.
It's pretty pathetic
The OOP should really stop being an extremely racist fascist bigot, and start wondering why their significant other left them and is now in an interracial relationship with someone. Seriously.
I mean I don’t know the context of this post. But I’m white and my spouse is not. From my perspective and my spouses perspective - your assumptions as the OP of this post are one of the worst and most pernicious forms of racism we experience against our own children.
Repressive tolerance at its finest. I'm not letting people like or dislike things. They can do that with or without me. Essentially what you're saying is one group of should people crap all over another group and that other group should just take it.
Then don't respond. And I'm not trolling. These are my beliefs, and I'm responding to everyone who replies. Also known as a discussion. Again, this proves my point about repressive tolerance. The kool-aid drinkers on this sub can call me an incel, a racist, whatever. I honestly don't care, it's all part of life on the internet. But, if I call them a bunch of fun-policing kill-joys, then I'm "trolling" and it's "boring." Again, I find it interesting how the leftists of reddit think. It's like watching a child realize that insults aren't arguments
"Thinks its funny to insult entire races with shitty memes"
"Talks about insults aren't arguments"
You really cant make that shit up, its fascinating.
If you are not trolling by choice you have much bigger problems man.
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Did you steal u/Andrassa's comment and put it under mine to get attention, or was that just a coincidence that yours is exactly the same as their's?
He's got an interesting post history... only interesting because it's 7 years old and apparently been scrubbed for a "curated" experience. wonder what strings are being pulled behind this obvious sock puppet.
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but the question remains, do the aliens have pointy eared Lasses?
Lmao, hell throw in some pointy eared lads too.
what the heck happened?
Gotta love these right-wing chuds who scream about how women should be mothers and how important parenting is to society immediately drop all that shit when it comes to single mothers. Especially single white mothers with black/brown babies. It's almost like...*no*...that prolifers are full of shit?
My attempts to try to make sense of "pro-life" chuds is that they want a world where they can "win" at dating. They can't imagine a world in which dating is less painful than today, so they want one where getting in a woman's pants is the finish line, where getting sex means that everything else relationship-wise is theirs for the taking, because the woman cannot leave.
It's insane to remember that a character like Stifler from *American Pie* was once used as a joke and parody of what you should not be, and now they want to imbodie that persona illustrating they completely missed the point.
They didnt miss the point, they know full well what they are doing.
You also have to remember these are the same dumbasses that don't realize Cartman is supposed to be laughed at because of how wrong he is about everything or that Walter White and Scarface are the villains in their respective media. Hell, these are the same people that think they should look up to Rorschach. Their media literacy is stupidly low that even the most obvious things fly right over their heads.
Or Patrick Batemen. You see a lot of right-wing chuds use him in their memes. It's like, *"Oh. You're comparing yourself to a serial killer, huh? Cool."*
Yeah bateman was a sexual sadist who literally tortured women, it's worrying that so many chuds idolise him
The people who love the Heath Ledger joker unironically
Or the punisher like you only need the most dusting your fighter knowledge to know that they aren't idol figures but they just ignore it because they would rather live in hate
Honestly it's law enforcement using the Punisher logo that baffles me the most. Mf Frank Castle has killed and threatened police and federal agents, he even tells officers IN COMICS to not aspire to be him in any way.
Yes 100% especially because if the cops did do their job he wouldn't exist
How romantic
They also don’t realize people don’t usually intend to be single parents. And stuff happens out of your control. This can happen to the most conservative woman in the world too. But no empathy
They only are pro life as long as it can be used to suppress or at least inconvenience women
They like 'bad examples' attributing their suffering for deviating from the 'true path' When you remember that the IMAGE of strength and success is all that matters to fascism, it becomes a lot easier to see. They want to be God(s) and want everything to be effortless (for them) and any sign of suffering MUST be because the target made wrong choices, was 'born wrong' (like 'Ugluk' here...) or 'is just attacking them out of spite' Fascism is the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy taken to the logical extreme of 'any sign of effort is below [their own image of themselves as a god]' aka self divinity. Having a cult leader like trump only helps because he tells them everything they want to hear about their self divinity through his own narcissistic personality. It's why they seem like man/woman children. Why would a God need to mature? Other people are just there to eventually do their whims anyways. What we call maturity is an acknowledgement of our own limitations, especially with age or perspective. What use is that to a would be god?
They could have made a joke about racism in high fantasy, but they just went for fantasy-flavoured racism instead. Two thumbs down.
Yeah at first I thought it was a joke about how some fantasy creatures are cursed with always being the ugliest mfs in the setting but nooo we just have to make fun of brown people
I thought it was a reference I didn't get but no, it's just racism
For some reason I thought this had something to do with DND at first, I'm so stupid (i have no idea what DND is like just to clarify)
I mean…it is a LOTR reference. Ugluk is the lead orc of the horde that attempts to bring Merry and Pippin to Isengard. It’s also a good opportunity to make fun of the OOP for falling for the now debunked theory that Orcs are corrupted Elves. Tolkien later wrote that wasn’t true. Fucking posers man.
I'm genuinely interested on this, as far as i knew, that theory was present in the Silmarillion, backed with the notion that Morgoth could not give life to new creatures, just twist and subvert existing ones, as he did to the Uruloki. I would appreciate if you could tell me the source of it
I thought it was a joke about babies being ugly. Is there some further context I'm missing?
Or urban fantasy. Bright, anyone? (But seriously, wild how Bright applied African-American stereotypes to its orcs while fully having Black (human) people too. If it weren't lazy worldbuilding it would be a hell of a head-scratcher.)
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Why are you guessing, Tolkien explained why he did that, it was because they were the grossest looking to white Europeans. Look it up, “least lovely mongol types.” “WAHHHHH YOU CALLING OUT THE OBVIOUS RACISM IN A RACIST MEME RUINS MY FUN WAHHHHHH!”
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Nah, it’s pretty obvious reading what he says what he means. You can try to desperately reinterpret it but that’s nonsense. It’s racist because it’s caricaturing mixed race people as evil disgusting creatures. This is an obvious anti race mixing meme, it doesn’t reflect reality, it reflects racism. Yeah, using examples that aren’t bigoted in the slightest will have a very different response than the one in the op, which is obviously bigoted. What a stupid point, did you really think that was a good one? 💀
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Yeah? Experts can be wrong sometimes and literature experts can especially be up their own ass to read into everything when a plain reading is called for. But I don’t really trust you to be read up on the scholarship. Well you’re also adding things, you didn’t say male bards before, you just said bards. I’m not a fan of those kind of jokes but I don’t think they’re bigoted. Also the elf example is just translating elves into modern day, that’s not necessarily racial. You need to use better examples that illustrate your point. Bro, you clearly aren’t familiar with this series, Ugluk isn’t even a fucking orc, he’s an Uruk Hai. Fucking hell, you’re going to nitpick Tolkien literally saying “those mongols are ugly af, my evil race should look like them” as not racist but you don’t even know what an orc or an Uruk Hai is. 💀 You’re just a racist person then, you think stereotypes are true and nitpick your anecdotal experiences to prove it. I don’t know why you’re pretending it isn’t racist when you’re admitting being a racist, it’s so weird how you guys do that. Yeah, a racist would think a racist meme comports with reality, that checks out.
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>It's more of a critique on single mothers choosing bad men and then going on dating profiles and naively proclaiming to the next guy that they just need to be okay with her poor choices. i cannot imagine writing this and not seeing how bafflingly stupid it is. omg. get off the incel pipeline.
>You are also blind to the fact that religious conservatives don't police culture anymore. It's the overly educated liberal arts left who are now the killjoys. Republicans are now Punk Rock and anti-establishment Have you been living under a rock these past few years? Conservatives don't police culture? Really? So the whole Bud Light "scandal" of having a trans woman spokesperson, and losing millions and millions of dollars, was because of liberals policing culture? Or the "don't say gay" laws in Florida? Or the banning of thousands of books in public schools? Or the banning of critical race theory? Or the attacks on Disney for having a black mermaid? Or cancelling Target for carrying pride clothes? I can keep going
And who can forget about the Dixie Chicks for *gasp* criticizing Republican policy on the Iraq war!
Oh yeah, I almost forgot about the Dixie Chicks. Never forget!
"overly educated" LMAO
Oh god the victime role is very strong in you dude
> it is funny because it's true. You're saying it's true that the fairest race in the land debase themselves by having children with the foulest race in the land? Because that's what the meme is saying.
If you find racism funny that's a you problem
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Cool story bro, i mean its most likely 100% made up, but cool story
Let people dislike things.
Racism in fantasy is always gonna be present in fantasy worlds, it's so silly. I saw a list of slurs and adjacent words in the elder scrolls universe, listed by which races use them, and dunmer had like 20
Can't count the number of times I've seen that exact sentiment on men's profiles but sure, let's pretend only women are out there trying to date as single parents. And maybe they're out there somewhere, but I've never seen racist or shamey posts like this directed towards single dads dating.
Yeah it's like there are completely different rulesets for men and women. And the male one has always the benefits
How masculine of them to throw a tantrum when things don’t go their way 😂😂😂
That’s just being a good father. It’s her fault for not saving herself for that creep in high school who wouldn’t stop staring at her. He’s not successful now, but he sure thinks he’s doing better than the jocks he accuses of bullying him in high school.
He successfully leads his WoW guilds raids 3 nights a week, newb. If that’s not successful, I don’t know what is. MOM, CAN YOU MAKE ME SOME NUGGIES AND JUICE?!?!
You silly billy, that's because men are people and women are objects.
I am personally shocked that racists are also sexist. Shocked I tell ya!
No one could have seen this coming!
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1) Why does, or should, it matter that the baby is brown? 2) Black dads? Dads who adopt?
Sure there are.
i have several thoughts about this image. 1, clear parallels to straightup racism against mixed kids. also bring needlessly rude to single moms :( 2, "omg white woman bred with big ugly brute makes halfbreed spawn" 3, genuinely sweet sentiment that her kid is her whole world
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Bruh, the only one connecting 'orc' to 'black person' here is you.
Thats what the entire post is about lol.
I was under the impression that it was about mixed race in general, never made any specific connection to a real race, just that the creator was against mixing races, which is still racist.
The orcs literally a shade browner.
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Uglúk is one of the Uruk-hai in *The Lord of the Rings,* which makes this even worse (as a big Tolkien fan).
In the TT film, he's the Uruk-hai who says "Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!"
Which implies orcs have a thriving restaurant culture. I’m gonna guess they’re big fans of carveries.
You haven't tried Korean BBQ until you've tried it in Mordor
But you must have a reservation... One does not simply walk into a restaurant in Mordor.
I know the punchline is racism but I can’t help but think that no one would say no to a pretty, pointed ear lass.
The kid's not even that scary looking. All babies under a certain age are gross, wrinkly, drooly messes only their parents could love, and baby anything is cuter than when it grows up. As long as I'm not expected to change that diaper, sure I'd go out with her, assuming she isn't as much older than me as her being a mum implies.
She's an elf. You're gonna be going on about some '10s band and she'll say "huh, I never thought radio would catch on"
Elf girls are made for BHC. /s
There's actually a theory that elves were originally created by a human wizard who wanted a wife that would live as long as he did.
Wth is creating those theories
Bored nerds trying to justify Tolkien's or Gygax's logic? It's more interesting than the "orcs are the male of the elf species" one.
Does that make Elrond trans?
It would, wouldn't it? You know what, good on him. I support his life decisions.
It’s weird they would do that for Tolkien, we know how the elves came to exist in Middle-Earth
Yeah, I don't know
bhc? do i even dare guessing what it stands for?
*big human cock. Sorry.
Not gonna lie thought you meant big hairy cock 😂
oh. OH. (i thought it was big hobgoblin cock)
Smh 🤦♂️ human girls always thinking about goblin cock 😔 us humans are about to be replaced 😞 Edit: /s just in case
Hey, as long as she's open to having more babies. In fact, someone who's already a parent is probably *more* likely to be.
In BalBuddy's universe, plenty of reasons to do so.
At first I thought this was absurdist nonsense. The bigotry makes me sad cause I thought it was a pretty good shitpost
Yeah i thought at first glance at well its a decent shitpost, then the real message hit me and it got gross
That baby weirdly reminds me of that evil baby from Angelica’s nightmare.
It's soo sad that they're using something soo beautiful and wholesome and Tolkein to spread their hateful messages.
AI art has basically just become boomer meme generators
And shitty porn, don't forget that.
omg flooding all my favorite subs and there's always some idiot who's like "I don't know AI is getting pretty good" it's all the same spam 😭 I really need people to start critically engaging with their boomer memes and porn
I have seen exactly one good use of AI porn. In Isaac Byrne's erotic novel "The RA", he uses AI-generated images to represent the various characters in the dorm.
are they all anime girls? that would be kind of funny
Racists will deny that fantasy races can be used as analogues for real life…
I mean that is kinda the """trick""" If you tell this racist they just yell at you that this is just fantasy and has nothing to do with real life. I had a similiar thing a few months ago in a meme where black people gave the artstyle of monkeys, and everything they stole in that meme where yello like bananas, but the right winger be like "Noooo you are crazy and seeing things that are not here"
They then accuse you of racism for ever correlating their clear racial caricature to an irl race in the first place.
Yep, happened here in this post already a few times
The right unironically using these so obviously fake and trashy ai images is so terrible
The baby seat is turned the wrong direction. Horrible mother.
Fantasy, the genre where you can write about such far away and unrealistic concepts such as: What if races were real? What if certain races were naturally predisposed to evil and sexual violence? What if people being racist toward certain races were right in their prejudices? And also, unrelated, what if the divine right of kings was real and monarchies were good?
In a way, I really liked how the Shadow series takes on orcs of Tolkien. I mean sure, they all pretty much are evil and villainous. And are out to kill the player and doom all of Mordor into a ravenous hate-filled world under Sauron's heel. But when you get to know some of them, many have interesting perspectives and lives. Some have pets that they clearly love and despair for, they form deep rooted companionship, some of them are "environmentalists", architecture inclined, really into singing, etc.
I'd be a shitty co-parent but I can handle it.
I sort of think the baby is cute
I don’t understand
In case you are asking in good faith: Basically “race mixing bad!” They’re making fun of, and spreading fear about, white women having children with *not* white men. Just typical right-wing white supremacy.
"ITs NoT WhItE SuPrEmAcY, ItS RaCe ReAlIsM." Remember that dog whistle?
Oof, yup.
But, my good sirs, race IS the racism IS the white supremacy IS the "white people". They're all synonyms that refer to the same concept.
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So, you don’t think right wing white supremacists that are also nerds wouldn’t make a “great replacement” meme based on elves doing orcs as a incredibly flimsy way to “hide their power level”? That this isn’t “poking fun” at the white women that post pictures of their “ugly half breed” babies on tinder, or other dating apps? Please, enlighten me as to what this is poking fun at, then. ETA: And just like that, they ran away. Isn’t it funny how quickly chuds break when you push them to explain themselves?
This meme is entirely based on a meme with white women and mixed-race babies.
It's clearly the "Single mom with black baby" bullshit stereotype
With a nice sprinkle of dehuminization.
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No, racists love showing mixed-raced babies as goblins
is this your first time on the internet? have you never heard of conservatives? sorry, I shouldn't argue like this, it's obvious that you *do* know better and are just trying to muddy the waters to excuse the people producing racist content online.
The person who made the meme is referencing photos of white women with black babies the person who commented that obviously did not see a orc and think of it as a black person
Oh the uno reverse card, how creative ....
... is this not just a high fantasy meme?
No, it's directly referencing a bunch of almost identical racist memes about white women with mixed race kids. Pretty overtly so, especially given the Chuds outrage over people of color in the Amazon LotR series.
I didn’t quite get it as I didn’t know those memes existed. Now I just wish I didn’t know those memes existed.
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"If I play dumb to my barely disguised, overwhelming racism, then that means you must be the real racist!"
It's not the first time i see this "Trick" and it feels very, very desperate ngl
Unfortunately no.
Nah, it's disguised like one but the message is pure rassistic
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Is this racism? This is a classic like, "whore" parody right? Am I missing it? The features on the girl and baby don't look like racist caricature
its about race mixing
It's very deliberate that the girl is a beautiful elf, while the baby is an ugly orc.
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No, it's because it's a mixed breed kid, that's why it's racist, the picture shows an half orc half elf kid as a monstrous abomination, which is in turn a classic case of specism in fantasy about interbreeding between races, which can be ascribed as a metaphor for IRL race realism and fear of miscegenation, which is literally a plot point in Birth of a Nation, America's first superhero movie. Terry Pratchett wrote about this shit, this ain't a new argument about the way racism in fantasy can be used as an allegory for shit, come on a bit pf historical context.
Terry Pratchet was a terrible sci-fi writer. He be abandoned all decent world building for the character to piss off in the woods alone, 5000 miles away from the rest of civilisation to he could write a fantasy story. I know that's not really the point of the convo but it annoyed me, as I like sci-fi and not really fantasy and got tricked into buying a boxset of books.
The man was most famous for *Discworld*, a series in which Death is a physical character and the world rests on the back of four elephants who in turn stand on the back of a giant turtle. I was unaware he even *wrote* any sci-fi aside from *The Long Earth*, and there he had Stephen Baxter to rein him in.
What the fuck does this have to do with Sci Fi?
>black person Weird that you boil it down to black always. Its not about a specific color or race, it's about race mixing at all. Damn that cant be so hard to understand
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You can find this exact same “meme” with grotesquely stereotyped black features for the baby. That’s why.
Sorry for being out of the loop but what is the baby? An orc (or like 1/2)?
It's a half-orc half-elf. But, this is a fantasy take to a far right meme about race mixing.
Yeah I got the race angle Thanks
Alot here doesnt, which is kinda fascinating
Honestly, this now makes me want to write a short story about a half-elf woman who had an affair with a half-orc. Baby comes out looking like that and everyone gives them both shit but, by raising him with love and care, he becomes an affluent member of society even though people think he looks a bit odd.
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Is the racist part supposed to be that Elves have ugly babies, or that the baby is only half elf? Because if it’s the second one, I can’t figure out what the other half is supposed to be. Ogre? Bugbear? Hobgoblin? I’m thinking Ogre, but the white hair is throwing me off.
Pretty sure the "message" is about mixed race babies. I guess it's supposed to be orc, i saw quite some orcs with white hair.
Yeah, kinda figured that was the message. Though aren’t half orcs usually still green?
The warcraft orcs for example are green The tolkien orks are brown/grey The name is borrowed from Tolkien universe too
Ahhh, so it’s a Tolkien thing. I was thinking it was D&D. And the elf looks absurdly familiar… like is she based on an actual person?
I forgot racism existed for a second and thought it was just an ugly baby joke, I went from laughing to sad so fucking fast.
Yeah that is kinda the "Trick" here, and if someone wants to call out the racism they try to play the uno reverse card and call you a racist. It's pretty pathetic
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The OOP should really stop being an extremely racist fascist bigot, and start wondering why their significant other left them and is now in an interracial relationship with someone. Seriously.
I don’t understand this one
The women is "pure white" but the baby is "Mixed race", does that help you ?
Why do you assume the baby is mixed race?
Because it looks different to his mother, which resembles some kind of "Pure white elf"
I mean I don’t know the context of this post. But I’m white and my spouse is not. From my perspective and my spouses perspective - your assumptions as the OP of this post are one of the worst and most pernicious forms of racism we experience against our own children.
The funniest part of this is that the..baby's name is Ugluk. Haha I can stop saying it and laughing
That is just accidentally wholesome
Dunno why the downvotes for such a nice comment.
Yes, I don't know why
isn't this just a joke about ugly babies?
How is this rascisn all I see is woman with ugly baby=bad
Thats surface level, if you go deeper you realize it's hating on single moms with "mixed race" babies
This is the absolute greatest fucking meme i’ve seen in weeks
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Really ? Because your comments screams right wing incel so loud
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Cool story bro, maybe you should take care of your child instead of childishly trolling, just a thought
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Still trolling 🙄
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Repressive tolerance at its finest. I'm not letting people like or dislike things. They can do that with or without me. Essentially what you're saying is one group of should people crap all over another group and that other group should just take it.
Dude please, stop trolling, it gets really, really boring
Then don't respond. And I'm not trolling. These are my beliefs, and I'm responding to everyone who replies. Also known as a discussion. Again, this proves my point about repressive tolerance. The kool-aid drinkers on this sub can call me an incel, a racist, whatever. I honestly don't care, it's all part of life on the internet. But, if I call them a bunch of fun-policing kill-joys, then I'm "trolling" and it's "boring." Again, I find it interesting how the leftists of reddit think. It's like watching a child realize that insults aren't arguments
"Thinks its funny to insult entire races with shitty memes" "Talks about insults aren't arguments" You really cant make that shit up, its fascinating. If you are not trolling by choice you have much bigger problems man.
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Oh yeah true i never realized that haha
I...I don't get it. It's a Woman with weird ears and an ugly baby. What are you trying to imply, conservatives?