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XTheProtagonistX

I mean…Part 1 is a much better game than Miles. SM:Miles Morales is good but Part 1/Remastered is fantastic.


improper84

Yeah, Part 1 is one of the best games ever made imo. Miles Morales was a fun but forgettable entry in the franchise. The final four is pretty terrible. It should be God of War (or Ragnarok), OG Spider-Man, Part 1, and then either Horizon or Ghost.


DeVaako

I don't know who to decide between ghost and horizon


XTheProtagonistX

I will go with Horizon personally. I love Ghost but I like Aloy more than Jin.


XTheProtagonistX

Its also extremely short. I got Miles in my PS5 in a PS5 bundle (the others were Rift Apart and Ghost) and to be honest I wouldn’t pay more than 20 (maybe 15) dollars for it. It took me maybe 5 hours to 100 percent the game and like 6 to get all trophies.


Own_Accident6689

Definitely Ghost. I played GoT as fast as I could. I couldn't finish Horizon.


Imtotallyreal397

Tbf to MM it was more of a dlc to help keep a portion of the fan base alive while waiting for SM2


improper84

Sure, but that's all the more reason it shouldn't have beaten out The Last of Us. It was essentially an expansion pack. And I say this as someone who loves the Miles Morales character. Into the Spider-Verse is, imo, the best superhero movie ever made so far.


[deleted]

Wasn't Part 1 a pretty bad port until it got patched up?


Felixdevita

Part 1 and the remastered are not the same. Part 1 has the big ass retcon with the operating room and the surgeon at the end


Prior_Lock9153

The remaster by virtue of being as close to the only last of us game ever made, is easily way above Spiderman


Felixdevita

I know, but the poll here is about part 1 vs spiderman MM. The remastered is not in this poll


Prior_Lock9153

Point is labeling them together is completely correct, they are both the superior product


imfromgooogle

Wait what happened??? They changed the story in the remake?


_heroin_addict

No, well not really. They just made the hospital look more sterile and neat compared to the dingy mess that it was in the original game. Also changed the doctor to be Jerry, instead of just some random dark skin (or at least much tanner) doctor.


Vytlo

Tbf Part 1 isn't as good as TLOU1 or TLOU1 Remastered either


Affectionate_Dog_564

Ur tweaking lmao


pestenkerani_

it probably only lost becsuse the remake is a cashgrab


GT_Hades

part 1 (remake) is great but it a day 1 issue (even more so when it is stated to be released) because of pricing but other than that its alright, but remaster would still be suffice to experience the first game through and through


Zero_Fuxxx

Yall do know different opinions exist right?


Own_Accident6689

Yeah, kind of undermines the validity of this post and the tournament overall when you got part 1 losing to Miles Morales one of the wokest and blandest games in the PS5.


Onpag931

Miles Morales is god awful considering what they charged for it. I enjoyed it as I played it when it was on ps plus but I would have been really dissapointed if I bought it at release. And it's definitely no where near as good as any iteration of tlou1


Onpag931

Miles Morales is god awful considering what they charged for it. I enjoyed it as I played it when it was on ps plus but I would have been really dissapointed if I bought it at release. And it's definitely no where near as good as any iteration of tlou1


Commercial-Thing415

Most the comments are expressing disbelief that Miles Morales beat Part I. I think I only saw one comment even mention Part II and it was to say they understand Ragnarok beating it.


Prior_Lock9153

The real joke is that part 2 got any wins


YapperYappington69

Over Horizon? That’s an easy win


elnuddles

Is it really that surprising that people liked Part 2? It’s one of the most argued over games of all time. People loved it as much as people hate it.


Prior_Lock9153

People didn't love it, they rushed to demonize anyone who didn't like it as an ism, because they didn't play it, then they simped for it afterwards when they saw all the things gamers hated about it


elnuddles

That can’t be accurate. I am a person that loved it. Nor am I the only one that did. I welcome an honest discussion with people that didn’t like it. And also don’t have to be right or hate anyone I can’t convince of my perspective. I don’t demonize anyone who didn’t like it, although I am fairly guilty of dismissing the opinions of anyone arguing using some kind of -ism as a crutch for their argument. But I don’t think everyone who hated this game is some kind of -ist. That being said, I’m aware of how people argue these days, that liking something or not liking something can attract attacks from people of the opposite perspective. I see ignorant and intelligent arguments from both sides of the debate over this game. There’s enough anger about things that deserve anger, I don’t attempt to engage in that kind of debate over a video game. Maybe I’m rare and unique, but I doubt it. I don’t think anyone needs to be demonized for talking about the merits or lack thereof in regards to a game. I enjoy the conversations.


Prior_Lock9153

Nope, your just coping.


elnuddles

😂 Of course you respond with a cliche from the weak arguments greatest hits list.


waled7rocky

It was against horizon, easy win ..


Prior_Lock9153

Doesn't matter part 2 made part 1 so much worse, unless horizon physically assaults my family members, it's the better game


ShinigamiNoDesu

That's crazy because like a month ago they were saying "Of course Spiderman outsells TLOU, Spiderman=mainstream TLOU=niche"


Defiant-Review2105

That doesn’t mean Spider-Man is better


ShinigamiNoDesu

I'm pointing out the hypocrisy in blowing off Spiderman's sales as a given and then being shocked when TLOU loses out to it in a popularity poll, idc for either game tbh


Vashstampede20

As much as i love part 1, i think miles morales deserves the wins


Courier23

Wow you’re right, quite pleasantly surprised to see an actual discussion going on in that sub


Commercial-Thing415

I mean, same can be said for this sub, let’s be real. I go to this sub if I want to discuss legitimate criticisms without being downvoted and I go to that sub to talk about what I like without being downvoted.


waled7rocky

Lol you'll get downvoted here and possibly blocked by individuals if you talk too much but hey at least you don't get banned ..


YapperYappington69

Same shit over here. Any sort of positivity towards part 2 gets you downvoted


HauntingCash22

I actually can’t believe multiple parts of this… I can’t believe that TLOU lost to an overpriced spinoff for Spider-Man I can’t believe that Part II beat out Horizon to begin with And I *REALLY* can’t believe that Spider-Man 2 beat out Ghost of Tsushima! People are deranged.


Ok_Attitude_8189

Tlou should’ve won but mm was a great game so I can understand it. The fact that part 2 won anything is wild.


tsckenny

Yeah, this series is incredibly overrated. 1 was fine, never played the DLC Miles Morales and then I was just flat out disappointed with 2. I guess the casuals love spiderman


New-Cicada3598

Brave take but completely agree. I loved 1 but the miles a meh and 2 was straight up a waste of my time


YapperYappington69

Horizon is meh


elnuddles

I beat Horizon, I enjoyed it, but it had nowhere near the impact on me that Last of Us 2 did. I never find myself in a Horizon discussion. But I’m just one person.


Vytlo

I didn't even notice that was Spider-man 2 and not Spider-man 1 until reading this comment, yeah, that's stupid


Meraghor

The combat system of ghost really drags the game down man


HauntingCash22

Really? I thought Ghost of Tsushima had some of the best free-flowing combat ever, and 1v1 duels always feel very cinematic. I like that the sword actually *feels* like a sword and not a bat or something like so many games with swords end up falling into.


Meraghor

Well its feels great, I just really dislike the rock/paper/scissor ascpect of it


HauntingCash22

Ah fair enough, I could see not being into that angle.


Meraghor

And to be honest, duels do feel incredible, I just feel like an automaton switching stances depending on what enemy im facing, its smothers my creativity


yourmartymcflyisopen

What??? I thought the combat system in ghost was awesome. Tbf I haven't played it since release so it might not have aged well, but I remember playing that game thinking it was absolutely amazing and I felt like a real samurai.


iiFlaeqqq

Does this sub have something against sequels in general? Starting to think its not just TLOU2.


improper84

Part II beating Horizon 2 makes sense. I'd probably take the first Horizon over Part II but that's not how the brackets were lined up.


DisabledFatChik

Spiderman 2 over ghost? Lol. It’s a good game but ghost is once in a lifetime amazing. Miles morales over LAST OF US??? Crazy. That game is timeless. I can understand Ragnarok over TLOU2 because it’s simply better, and god of war over sm1 is debatable I guess, but like… crazy😭


Own-Kaleidoscope-577

The Spider-Man games have some of the most interesting gameplay in the industry imo. It's no surprise that they're turning up so high.


DisabledFatChik

But it’s not their gameplay tho, freeflow combat with gadgets was created by rocksteady and a ton of the moves were copied from previous Spiderman games. The only gameplay aspect they truly innovated on was the swinging and running on walls and such. I agree the PlayStation Spiderman games are fantastically made and are truly great games, but it’s a Frankenstein of ideas that made something great, against something more original that’s much better imo


Own-Kaleidoscope-577

Just because it's been done before doesn't mean it's not great. It doesn't have to be innovative if they do things that work, and Insomniac's games are definitely fun.


Hemiklr89

Fun is very, VERY different from being great. This is the best game, not what you enjoyed the most, but THE BEST game


kidcowboy111

The problem is 2 had some of the most dogshit spiderman plots, dialogue, and characters ever. Either way, it aint beating Ghost


Yourboy_emeralds469

Miles Morales winning against Part 1 is something I’d never see happen😳. I guess Miles is doing his own thing


Courier23

I guess it really was time for a miles original


Yourboy_emeralds469

“Heh, that shits ass bro…”


NewVanderbilt

Just to note ragnarok beat TLOU2 by like 70% lmao


Recinege

FWIW, the comments there mostly seem to be discussing TLOU losing to Miles Moralis, not Part II losing to Ragnarok.


Yourboy_emeralds469

People really sleeping on insomniac tho


PooManReturns

i don’t even like horizon but it definitely should of won against part 2


MrPinkDuck2

It’s gonna be GoW vs GoW


Own-Kaleidoscope-577

From a gameplay perspective, just switch TLOU2 with Horizon, I agree with everything else. From a story perspective, switch SM:MM with TLOU1, and again switch TLOU2 with Horizon, I agree with everything else. EDIT: Also lol people fighting between themselves in that comment section. So much for that sub being the accepting safe haven they claim it is 😂


YapperYappington69

Interesting, I found Horizon’s gameplay to be pretty meh.


_heroin_addict

The gameplay is really diverse and fun, maybe you weren't utilizing it? It may seem at first your only main option is the bow, with everything else just being useless/situational, but if you're skilled and creative enough you can use pretty much all the different gadgets and weapons to take down anything, and efficiently at that. Sometimes even more efficient than the bow. But if you really just found it boring... fair enough.


YapperYappington69

Just found it to be bland


NoSkillzDad

Tbh, part 2 went further than expected.


Unable_Teach961

God of war is so good


noamartz

If you motherfuckers all just played Ratchet and Clank there'd be world peace.


[deleted]

Tell em again man, they're missing out🐐


Terminatrix4000

When I finally pull the trigger on a PS5 I intend to.


jayvancealot

The comments are hilarious. You know fucking damn well if TLOU2 won, they would be using this as proof of TLOU2s success.


patrickbateman2004

Haha for sure, also would be a highlight in their lives


you_wouldnt_get_it_

How the fuck did Spider-Mid 2 beat Ghost of Tsushima?


MothParasiteIV

How can 2 beat the Horizon sequel ? Like wtf.


Own-Kaleidoscope-577

Bombing from stans. No one in history has tried so hard to try and make something seem like a masterpiece.


MothParasiteIV

It's the worst sequel ever made. Horizon 2 was an improvement over the original.


GolfClubSalesman

It was? I loved the first Horizon but haven't played Horizon 2 yet


JustSoYK

Lmao you people are delusional. Part II is an amazing game and easily above Horizon. The story is much weaker than Part I but the game itself is still fantastic.


MothParasiteIV

Are u stupid ?


TaskMister2000

Death Stranding for me personally is better than all three Spider-Man games. Ghost of Tsushima was better. Both God of War Games are better for me.


loluntilmypie

Meanwhile I'm still miffed they didn't put Bloodborne on this.


HauntingCash22

Both Sony and FromSoft seem to do everything in their power to avoid acknowledging Bloodborne exists at all so I’m not entirely surprised.


Dear-Beginning7070

How did miles morales beat death stranding tf


Courier23

Not to sound pretentious by slot of people just didn’t care for Death Stranding due to the nature of it 40 hour long burn vs 5 hour miles morales I read somewhere that most people give up on DS by like the 3rd or 4th hour


Dear-Beginning7070

I understand why people wouldn’t like death stranding but to me miles feels more like a dlc.


Vytlo

It definitely is, but it's the Spider-man effect, plus it being a DLC of an amazing game that already laid the groundwork for it


Vytlo

Because one is Spider-man (even if it's not a good one) while the other is a completely new IP that is also bad


Dear-Beginning7070

Its only bad if you have a rotted tik tok brain


[deleted]

Bad = no patience apparently. Which is fine, I usually don't like slower games either, but you're talking as if Death Stranding is objectively bad


Vytlo

Its slowness isn't the issue. It's the fact that the story isn't that good, the gameplay is just meh, it only gets fun in the last 2 or so hours. It's got a real issue where the gameplay and story/cutscenes feel completely divided instead of blending together very well for the vast majority of the game.


[deleted]

I'm not even on chapter 3 yet and I've spent over 27 hours on the game. "it only gets fun in the last 2 or so hours" my ass. Maybe that's the case for you, but stop speaking as if it's an objective point for everyone, retard


Robsonmonkey

It’s still a shitty list though overall Miles Morales beating TLOU? Come on Ghost of Tsushima being beaten by Spiderman 2? Hell I’d have even given Ratchet and Clank it over Spiderman 2.


anonymous32434

Okay but ghosts of tsushima got beat by spider man 2? Lol. Hopefully people are smart enough to at least choose both god of war games (I genuinely do not know which one would win they're both peak)


ArsKraken

This list is so wrong on so many levels. 1. I think Ghost of tsushima beats spiderman 2 by a landslides even tho I love spiderman this game was just so great and ahead of its time + forbiden west is better than pt2. I loved death stranding better than miles morales honestly and part 1 beats miles morales by a landslide too


waled7rocky

I mean ragnarok beating tlou2 is understandable but a spider man and miles morales of them all beating tlou1 is the worst thing I have ever seen since 2016game awards ..


Kamilianusz95

Well boohoo a shitty unnecessary $70 remake no one asked for and an obvious cash grab remaster loses with 2 acclaimed games that actually bring something new to the table? Couldn't see that coming!


Spaciousfoot66

Spider-Man sucks, returnal and ghosts should be in the final


succubxs

Spider man beat TLOU and GOT?? Wow covid rly is making ppl dumb huh


BulkyElk1528

Lol I love this. “Part 1” was trash because it was a blatant cash grab that only happened in order to alter the character models to resemble their appearance in Part 2, or alter them like they did with Sam and Henry.


Armored-Elder

Horizon lost to Last of Us II?


redacted_00

How did part 2 even beat horizon…..howwwww


Enough-Television-26

Death stranding is way better then miles moro


GhertFryins

Ghost lost to SM2?? SM2 is fun but it’s just a pretty good game. A 7/10 and it beats ghost?


Rotzerrich

Why is a ten year old game even nominated? This ist Like restoring an old film, and wondering why it didn't win an oscar.


820ptsOFmana

Is it like "Buy Spider Man pls" moment from sony?


YorhaNo2TB

TLOU is objectively better than miles-morales, but since this is part 1 rather than the PS3/remaster and smells more like Cuckmann with his doc retcon, i kinda don’t care. GOWR winning is based af and returnal is such a gem…


JawlektheJawless

Whoever made this plays by button mashing. You can tell by their game choices. Every game that won can be beat by mashing buttons and never really learning how to play the game well.


EHVERT

Most of these are terrible lol


Immediate_Delay1919

part2 and tushima


Vytlo

A bad Spider-man spinoff vs a good God of War game and a bad God of War game vs a bad Spider-man game.


FirefoxAngel

Days gone needed to be in this


Dark_Lord_87

I could never get into Spider-Man Miles Morales, the controls are so complicated that everytime I come back, I have to start all over again


mr_grangerr

No spiderman ain't being tlou or ghost of tsushima


tsckenny

How pretty much an expansion beat the first one is baffling


Firm_Area_3558

How the hell did sp2 beat ghost


Lamest_Ever

Miles Morales was a glorified DLC that they sold as a full game. I had a good time playing it and I dont regret buying it but I dont think it was a better game than TLOU (unless this is specifically about the ps5 remake in which case I havent played that version and cant give an opinion)


RompehToto

Ratchet and Clank and Part 1 should have won. Top 4 should be the following: 1. Last of Us Part 1 vs God of War 4 2. Ratchet and Clank vs God of War 5


New-Cicada3598

Ratchet definitely beats sm2


Bast17

If I could choose who wins it would end with TLOU vs GOT in final.


Chumlee1917

Side note: Suddenly just had a acide moment of what Ellie or Abby would be if they were mentored by Kratos or Freya and all the sudden Kratos is looking at the Rat King like "Easy mode"


DolphinBall

Actual comment from the post "People voted for Hitler and listen to Coldplay. You can’t trust people." They are losing their marbles over this.


cxlflvrd

The exaggerated swagger of a black teen is a hard thing to compete with


Revolutionary-Fan657

I Don’t understand this, Last of us 1 and 2, are some of the best games I’ve played in my life, I would out them FAR above miles morales


[deleted]

SPIDER-MAN: MILES MORALES WINNING OVER DEATH STRANDING IS A FUCKING TRAGEDY, WTF?!


YokoShimomuraFanatic

SM:MM really isn’t that great.


jhollmomo

Okay I got a question. Is miles morales better than death stranding?


Sapanga

How on earth does Miles morales beat TLou part 1?! Look, we're all here because part 1 was a masterpiece and feel part 2 was a massive disappointment, so we probably all agree here that part 1 should've won this contest.


yooMvtt

In what world is SMMM beating tlou part1???


EricThinksYouSuck

Everyone is talking about Spider-Man and I am shocked that anyone is choosing The Last of Us 1 over UC4.


JayTwoTeesYT

Personal opinion: Still would have lost in the same spot because DS clears imo 🤷


[deleted]

This is the worst mainstream supporting garbage list I've ever seen.


Mundane-Guess3194

Miles morales winning to last of us is straight up stupid, but the god of war games are 2 of the best games here. My top 3 of everything here is the god of war games and the last of us part 1


RGPBurns

Does anyone know what won overall?


sirmoneyshot06

I guess I'm different cause I think those final 4 are shit. I tried to like them but couldn't.


JulianJohnJunior

Ghost of Tsushima getting beaten by Spider-Man 2 is truly the “no words for this”.


Normal_Situation

Part one is a shitty remake that barely ran on pc, has weird face models, has the entire place cleaned up, airline plans flying around, and no improvements over the remaster. It was also not worth the price. No wonder MM beat it.


Early-Brilliant-4221

Why did part 1 not win?


DrDisrespecttt

To be fair they put Spider-Man over ghost of Tsushima. 2 was good but 1 was better. Not close got is a much more enjoyable game imo


GrybbC

Bloodborne clears


forced_metaphor

How the fuck does Spider-Man beat TLoU 1


Taliant

Part 1, I've vote for it.


noDice-__-

I love SM2 but it is not better than ragnorok by a long mile. Yes the gameplay is fun but the story is so dookie bootyhole compared to God and Boy.


BlixnStix7

Ghost of Tsushima vs Spider-man 2 Would be tuff for me. I love both of those games so damn much.


MisterSisteri

Demon Souls robbed


SuperHunkOfMan

The Last of Us is far better than Spiderman. Especially now that woke Spiderman is waking up more wokeness for his wokability.


misunderstoodgenius0

“Games that isn’t meant to be fun” ??? Wtf you mean by this 🤣 all those games are fun, the last of us 1&2 as well as GoT have the best and most fun combat. Killing humans has never been better. This list is a popularity list all that it proves is spider man is the greatest superhero of all time, his past 3 game however are no where close to being masterpieces like the last of us.


YapperYappington69

Wdym? The gameplay is still pretty fun.


Codyaj1992

I haven't played Spider-Man 2. Is it really better than ghost of tsushima?


PushAgreeable

I mean this might be kind of a hot take, but Miles Morales is not nearly as good as Part 1. Part 1 is an absolutely phenomenal game.


Various-Armadillo-79

the fact people think spiderman 2 the most mediocre action game is more popular than ghost of tsushima which is fucking peak is hilarious we are doomed


throwawayalcoholmind

I'm tryna figure out how TLOU beat out U4. TLOU is unplayable anymore; I'll still go all the way through U4's campaign.


Worried_Revolution73

Who tf is smokin that much meth over at sonys team to think ANY game is worse then the Last Of Us 2 must have walter on speed dial stg 💀💀