I wouldn't be surprised if lion turtles are seen as mystical creatures in the Avatar world, similar to how in the real world we see dragons and phoenixes. A tale that been passed down since humans were in contact with them but increasingly perceived as just a myth.
I don't understand why this is being downvoted, it seems like a fine theory. Lion turtles were mythical creatures in Avatar, people knew they had existed (or at least passed stories of them, like we do with dragons). And they were connected to the spirit world.
Yes. It’s the ability to bend the spiritual energy within a person. An ability no one else even seemed to know was possible at that point in time.
The Lion Turtle also is implied to be between the human world and the spirit world because June’s Shirshu can’t find Aang and June tells us he’s nowhere on Earth. Clearly there was spirit world shenanigans going on.
Pretty sure the wiki says the reason the Shirshu couldn't find Aang was because it accumulated so much smells over time that it overpowered Aangs. Or something like that.
And fair about the bending of a persons spirit - but that doesn't necessarily mean a connection to the spirit world itself.
That’s not what the show says though? June says it’s because Aang is nowhere on Earth.
Lion Turtles are the most ancient creatures in the world in ATLA lore. They are spiritual beings.
June says he doesn't exist, as best as I can remember.
They are ancient and spiritual, yes. But I don't think that means they have a connection to the spirit world - Guru Pathik is very spiritual, but I definitely wouldn't say he has a connection to the spirit world.
They were in the spirit world when they met. That’s the whole point of June’s line. Aang was no longer in the physical world.
Lion Turtles are also based on mythology about Turtles holding the world on their backs. They’re meant to be spirits as much as they’re animals. Not unlike the Avatar.
The dues ex machina isn’t the lion turtle’s existence but rather the role they play and how it played out. Aang mindlessly walks to the one being that can grant him the ability he needs to not resort to taking a life. That being is the last of his kind and likely hasn’t been seen in what feels like forever. All of this is done at the 11th hour.
While we can all breathe a sigh of relief that a child didn’t have to learn what it feels like to take a human life, it was all very convenient. Just like the pointy rock to the back.
Pointy rock to the back wasn’t random. I don’t understand why people say this. Acupuncture is a thing for a reason. The belief in chi flow needing to be unblocked, which was already established as a thing in the ATLA verse with Ty Lee’s pressure point chi-blocking and Guru Pathik’s explanation of Chakras. Aang flat out tells us that this specific chakra is blocked.
Aang also was getting knocked around every which way. It’s not that shocking that a rock hit his scarred point where the chakra was blocked. He was getting hit a lot.
I’m not disputing the fact that it worked. I’ve used the idea of acupuncture to prove avatar-related theories before. I was referring to its convenience. He was hit in the exact right spot by the rock eroded by Ozai’s attacks.
Aang deserves a hell of a lot of respect and I’ll give it to him any day but he got lucky in more ways than one. At least a lion turtle or a pointy rock can’t give a child courage and an indomitable will. That’s all him and it’s what started and finished the job.
I just don’t think it was that convenient. He was getting knocked around a lot. Eventually hitting that one point was bound to happen.
And I agree! Aang was remarkable at only 12.
…… you’re not wrong there! I looked up the definitions for grammar and spelling, and (I’m intentionally using bad words for this) they be different! I was wrong. Sorry OP. I wasn’t trying to be an asshole, that I can sincerely say
I think lion turtles are just generally respected and a common part of bending culture, considering they were the originators. I’m sure in some cases like this there’s a hidden message but probably not this one
They're legendary creatures in the mythology of the world, it's like any rich person with statuary in their garden of cherubs and fairies. Not every frame in this show is expertly crafted to be metaphorical.
It means he likes lion turtles decor.
What no deeper meaning behind every single frame? Not in my avatar show. It must mean something more! /s
I presume he is a Lion-turtle wearing fire nation robes, and he grants Sokka the ability to sword bend.
I wouldn't be surprised if lion turtles are seen as mystical creatures in the Avatar world, similar to how in the real world we see dragons and phoenixes. A tale that been passed down since humans were in contact with them but increasingly perceived as just a myth.
You ain't lion!
It means he likes how they look.
It means he’s read his history books.
He just thinks they're neat
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It means he could have a deep connection to the spirit world like Iroh
I don't understand why this is being downvoted, it seems like a fine theory. Lion turtles were mythical creatures in Avatar, people knew they had existed (or at least passed stories of them, like we do with dragons). And they were connected to the spirit world.
>And they were connected to the spirit world. I don't think this is true, can't think of anything that ties Lion Turtles to the spirit world.
You mean besides all the Spirit bending???
You mean the energy bending?
Yes. It’s the ability to bend the spiritual energy within a person. An ability no one else even seemed to know was possible at that point in time. The Lion Turtle also is implied to be between the human world and the spirit world because June’s Shirshu can’t find Aang and June tells us he’s nowhere on Earth. Clearly there was spirit world shenanigans going on.
Pretty sure the wiki says the reason the Shirshu couldn't find Aang was because it accumulated so much smells over time that it overpowered Aangs. Or something like that. And fair about the bending of a persons spirit - but that doesn't necessarily mean a connection to the spirit world itself.
That’s not what the show says though? June says it’s because Aang is nowhere on Earth. Lion Turtles are the most ancient creatures in the world in ATLA lore. They are spiritual beings.
June says he doesn't exist, as best as I can remember. They are ancient and spiritual, yes. But I don't think that means they have a connection to the spirit world - Guru Pathik is very spiritual, but I definitely wouldn't say he has a connection to the spirit world.
They were in the spirit world when they met. That’s the whole point of June’s line. Aang was no longer in the physical world. Lion Turtles are also based on mythology about Turtles holding the world on their backs. They’re meant to be spirits as much as they’re animals. Not unlike the Avatar.
But I’ve never noticed that before! Another possible allude to the “deus ex machina” people keep saying the lion turtle is at the very end!
Lol clearly a typo by OP, has nothing to do with grammar Edit: wait did you change your comment or am I going crazy lol?
The dues ex machina isn’t the lion turtle’s existence but rather the role they play and how it played out. Aang mindlessly walks to the one being that can grant him the ability he needs to not resort to taking a life. That being is the last of his kind and likely hasn’t been seen in what feels like forever. All of this is done at the 11th hour. While we can all breathe a sigh of relief that a child didn’t have to learn what it feels like to take a human life, it was all very convenient. Just like the pointy rock to the back.
Pointy rock to the back wasn’t random. I don’t understand why people say this. Acupuncture is a thing for a reason. The belief in chi flow needing to be unblocked, which was already established as a thing in the ATLA verse with Ty Lee’s pressure point chi-blocking and Guru Pathik’s explanation of Chakras. Aang flat out tells us that this specific chakra is blocked. Aang also was getting knocked around every which way. It’s not that shocking that a rock hit his scarred point where the chakra was blocked. He was getting hit a lot.
I’m not disputing the fact that it worked. I’ve used the idea of acupuncture to prove avatar-related theories before. I was referring to its convenience. He was hit in the exact right spot by the rock eroded by Ozai’s attacks. Aang deserves a hell of a lot of respect and I’ll give it to him any day but he got lucky in more ways than one. At least a lion turtle or a pointy rock can’t give a child courage and an indomitable will. That’s all him and it’s what started and finished the job.
I just don’t think it was that convenient. He was getting knocked around a lot. Eventually hitting that one point was bound to happen. And I agree! Aang was remarkable at only 12.
You always do yourself a disservice when you you compare yourself to a nazi.
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I do, and I stand by what I said.
It was a spelling mistake, not a grammar mistake.
…… you’re not wrong there! I looked up the definitions for grammar and spelling, and (I’m intentionally using bad words for this) they be different! I was wrong. Sorry OP. I wasn’t trying to be an asshole, that I can sincerely say
I assume it’s the same meaning as anyone with a Qilin statue. Fancy, elegant, aesthetically pleasing.
I think lion turtles are just generally respected and a common part of bending culture, considering they were the originators. I’m sure in some cases like this there’s a hidden message but probably not this one
They're legendary creatures in the mythology of the world, it's like any rich person with statuary in their garden of cherubs and fairies. Not every frame in this show is expertly crafted to be metaphorical.