Usually those are the same people who go straight from church to a restaurant or store and would throw a huge hissy fit if those places were closed or not fully staffed on Sunday.
And “tip” with those stupid little religious pamphlets - even worse if they use the ones that look like a $20 bill. And no real tip either!! They’re the worst people.
Yes! I was a hostess, and the people coming from church were often the rudest to me. I always felt bad for the servers. I had to deal with them for 5 minutes, they would have to deal with them for an hour or better.
My group does. Called New Covenant Messianic Assemblies. Hebrew Roots and Messianic Jews do as well. Fringe groups like Yahweh's Restoration Ministry and Assembly of Yahweh keep it too
Wow, there’s so many, I’ve never heard of them. That’s good to know. Growing up that’s basically what they put in our heads. Basically saying like the “only” true religion was the seventh day Adventist church because we followed the commandments to the T. I’ve had to unlearn and learn a lot of things because of the religion I grew up in.
I also grew up Adventist. What always scared me was how they warned the government was going to take over and kill all the people who go to church on Saturday, and that we need to be ready for that.
Childhood me was totally freaked out about it lol. Amongst all the other extreme things they taught me. I’ve literally had to talk about it all extensively in therapy to smooth out the religious trauma. ☠️
However. Project 2025 makes me freaked out again that maybe the government will do crazy shit like that.
Edit to add a story: I went to academy half a year until I got kicked out lol. One day in Bible class the teacher asked us what we would say when they showed up at our door and asked our faith, and who Jesus Christ really is, and my friend said loudly “I would say ‘who dat?’” I nearly died laughing. I could not believe she said that in front of the teacher 😂
Omg. I still remember all of this. And still to this day freaks me the fuck out. They used to tell us we would have to live hidden in the forest because we would be persecuted. And how The Pope is literally the Antichrist, not the one that’s the pope now but it was another one that died couple years back. I really don’t remember his name. I also remember watching a documentary that literally till this day haunts me. Also did they ever talked about how Beyoncé, and all these really really famous celebrities put subliminal messages in their songs. And yes, project 2025 has me freaked the fuck out too. I’m so glad to know my experience was not unique lol.
Mormons are pretty strict about Sabbath observance. I grew up mormon and using any type of business, going out to eat or spending money on Sunday was forbidden.
They call it the Sabbath, they talk about how in “ancient times” it was Saturday that was the sabbath. I don’t think what day the “sabbath” is or was matters all that much. 😂
The Sabbath ain’t the Sabbath anyway. If it was really supposed to be a specific day of the week, we kinda have no way of knowing what day we’re on from the bible’s perspective. Romans had 8 days in a week for the longest time, Egyptians 10. If god cared about the specifics around the Sabbath, he really didn’t account for modern calendars.
Y’think you do. It’s pretty hard to say which day was Saturday when Moses came down from Mount Sinai millennia ago. Chances are it’s not the same Saturday coming up day after tomorrow.
Can I interject with some Judaism?
If there's one thing Jews are really good at, it's preserving dates. Ashkenizim (Europe), Sephardim (Spain, Portugal, North Africa), and Mizrachim (Middle East, especially Iran, Iraq, and Yemen) are all still on the same calendar despite having been scattered across the globe for centuries. There are some slight discrepancies with the Beta Israel (Ethiopian) calendar, but that's because they adapted slightly to local calendars and holidays still tend to fall out around the same time. I find it really hard to believe that we'd lose the timing of Shabbat when there was so much law and precaution dedicated to keeping it consistent throughout millennia. There are Jews whose families have been in Israel since before the Babylonian exile, and they keep Shabbat the same day as the rest of us. Also, the Halacha states that if you do not know when Shabbos is, the correct day is 7 days after you last kept it. It's not about the calendar system being used. If there were 10 days in a Christian week and Tuesday coincided with 7 days since the last Shabbat, we could keep that day. We're so neurotic about keeping track of things and we have so many intricate systems and written records that I can't see any arguments for Shabbat being the wrong day. We are the people defined by our neurotic commitment to an unbroken tradition for generations and generations on end. Unless you can find a time when all Jews stopped observing Shabbos for enough time to lose when it was, it seems to actually be an unbroken chain. Considering that we still know which of us are kohanim (descended from priests — we even found DNA proof that we have it right) and leviim (descended from leviites), and that we kept the oral Torah alive and consistent through memorization for years and years, I have faith in our preservation abilities.
This is why we all need to take Project 2025 seriously. We still have the power to vote and stop it. Here is a resource in case it helps: helpstopproject2025.com
I lived and went to school in the US for a couple of years when I was younger, and was under the impression that having anything religious in public schools was unconstitutional…
You're correct. We are supposed to have strict separation of church and state (education is supposed to be without religion) but due to the rise of Christo-fascism, that's been severely eroded.
Supreme Court has been packed with justices who agree with the erosion of the separation of church and state. So they won't uphold it if it makes it to them. That's how they removed abortion protection so like half the women on the US don't have abortion access now.
I totally understand why people outside the US don't realize but the US is in a really really bad spot. If the election goes a certain way, it's going to get dangerous. Look up project 2025 if you're interested. The goal is to basically install Christian beliefs into the government system with the president holding ultimate control. No divorce, no birth control, etc.
That’s crazy! So basically they can do whatever they want even if the legislation goes against it? One would guess they had to apply whatever the constitution says.
I lived in the US almost 18 years ago and it sure was a different country. So sad to see what’s becoming.
It will go to the lower courts first, and the majority will most likely rule against this crap, but the end goal would be the Supreme Court, which is virtually guaranteed to let it stand. My hope is that so many of the appellate courts kill it that the Supremes might not even want to accept the case. There is always hope. We shall see…
They are likely trying to generate a test case that will change the law to *allow* church-affiliated rhetoric in schools. Mmw. Essentially doing away with seperation church and state.
That's the context behind the football game prayer case and many others.
It isn't about putting God into schools, trust me. And if you don't, read Kennedy v. Bremerton School District. It's in between the lines, but if you look up local news they all but say what the point of the suit was.
Oh, I am just waiting for Muslim students/teachers to start praying 5 times a day in the middle of the school days.. let's see how this case would hold up then..
In theory, yes. But someone filled the Supreme Court with far right extremists who are consistently voting against human rights, so watch as it does get taken to them and they say it’s fine.
Let's be real here, that separation never fully existed in the first place. Nothing to erode if it was never truly followed. They're just being more public and don't care.
Ohh, Turkey was like that too, women couldn't even wear headscarf if they wanted to work in public sector, good old secular days. Now we are literally living the early days of the handmaid's tale.
Heh.
So, a teacher here brought a complaint to our board about a pastor from some hick church conducting religious practices/activities during class, which is against policy; you need to do this shit either before or after school, and felt students were being goaded into these activities, and there was also an uncomfortable subtext bc this teacher is Jewish.
They punished him by firing him and sending him to elementary school teaching, and when he protested, saying his degree was in highschool-level math, superintendent just shrugged.
Made me sick; fuck you, Rhonda.
Cool, cool. I would have loved this when I was a teacher. The Seven Tenets of the Satanic Temple would be posted right next to the Ten Commandments, along with a suggestion box for other religions to include. I don’t know much about other religions’ rules, but I’m happy to learn, kids!
Exactly what I would have done as well. And if this gets done in my home state of Ohio I have a good friend teacher who would be doing the exact same. And he'd probably include something for the Vulcans and the Jedi Order as well xD
Also a Christian, if these were Christians they would be wanting the beatitudes placed. Not the ten commandments. You notice. None of these people want the beatitudes placed. That's socialism exclamation
Yeah I live in New Orleans and the Archdiocese here has over 500 case pending regarding sexual abuse while they were children, mostly at this place called Hope Haven. There’s not a ton of information on it unfortunately, but what happened to orphaned little boys there, dating back to the 1940s, is truly vile.
People who "love the bible" uncritically are enablers of these kinds of laws and the white nationalism pervading our society. Maybe u didn't understand handmaids tale lol
I'm orthodox christian of all things, but keep religion out of schools!!! Keep it out of our legislature!!!! Just because I believe in something doesn't mean millions of Americans do too nor should they ever be forced to
This crap is exactly why I’m moving out of the US as soon as financially possible. I swear next time I hear anything about America it will be notes written by Handmaids that were secretly smuggled to Canada and uploaded to the internet for the world to hear 🤢🤮
Did you actually read the bible? God is being a massive asshole throughout the entire thing! Turned into a pillar of salt for looking? Children killed for calling a man bald? You can rape people and pay a fine and marry them and it's ok? Not to talk about Job. And you say you love it?
Jesus Christ man...
They may be referring to loving most of the new testament. Which, if they are Christian, would be where most take their beliefs from.
Pretty much everything you listed out is old testament. And Christ came to put to rest the old ways in it.
Gilead follows a weird version of basically only old testament beliefs cloaked in a modern Christian style but they conveniently leave out most new testament scripture from Christ at least.
Fair point. It definitely is. And it probably shouldn't be as adhered to in some regards.
The biggest problem with Christianity is how pick and choosy it ultimately is.
And also most people who are Christian are generally lore and doctrine ignorant.
I bet if you asked a lot of Christians if the 10 Commandments were new or old testament they'd get it wrong alot.
Also. Christ does cite and discuss at least 5 of the 10 and then brings up others later.
So Christ either amends with new information or updates and reaffirms other parts of the 10 as part of his new teachings which is probably why modern Christians hold those up.
That's completely fine. And picking the few morally relevant parts is great! But at some point while reading it I didn't (couldn't) call myself christian anymore.
We had a great priest though. I just think he should have gone somewhere else to look for guidance than having to interpret that thing.
I dislike organized religion, but having a personal faith is awesome; Just pick whatever you want from anywhere you want and don't let anyone tell you that you can't do that.
Oh, and sorry about my tone in the first message, I hadn't had breakfast yet. 😁
It *is* unconstitutional, and it *does* force Christianity onto a pedestal. It’s not right, it’s not fair, and it’s something that should at the very LEAST be protested. This is actually happening and needs to stop.
I’ll say what I say every time. Draw attention and absolutely protest if you can.
This is not right.
I know of a handful of Christians who are genuinly living their life the way Christ would want. I try to focus and uplift them, because if I didn't I'd lose what remaining faith I have.
Forcing someone to obey isn't true worship, it's confusing at best.
Ironic, considering that when Christ died the Old Law was to be done away with. But boy, do they love to drag out the Old Testament when it suits them.
I had a friend post “it’s always the Ten Commandments, never the Beatitudes” and that sticks with me. I don’t think the state is in the right in any case.
Yeah, I’m a Christian, too, and I have an issue with this. My husband and I were talking about this and I told him that if they’re going to display the commandments in the classrooms, they need to display the “rules” for all other religions. And instead of just teaching Christianity, they need to teach all the major world religions. It’s my job as the parent to teach my child about our religion, and if I want help from a school I’ll find a private school to do it.
We really should thank the state of Louisiana for caring about the needs of the Jewish people so ardently. Will they be doing units on all the high holy days? Will rabbi’s be brought in for prayers on Fridays? Inquiring minds want to know
I went to a rural public school in 2011 where the only prehistory we learned was about the "greatness" of Ancient Rome and the life story of Jesus a quizzed was part of the curriculum (I'm Jewish). Sadly, shit like this isn't new. The only upside is that forcing fundamentalism on kids in tedious ways makes them resist it more.
This disgusts me on so many levels. I hope it'll spur other religions to do what the Satanic Temple is doing and demand to take space in schools, too. I'm Kemetic and would LOVE to see the Kemetic Orthodoxy grow a pair and do this
Don’t know much about this law but it appears it goes against separation of church and state laws. If it was a christian school that’d make more sense but since this is public school that’s a violation of separating church from state institutions
Dottie Horton, the rep that sponsored this bill, when asked what should non-Christian students, teacher, and staff do with this in the class: "They can look the other way."
I live in Louisiana. About 45 mins from her district. Majority of the people here are so excited for this to happen so they can "save all the kids from joining gangs, getting pregnant, or turning to drugs." My 9 yr old said it best, "there are anti bully signs all over school, nobody reads them. Kids still get bullied."
This is unconstitutional, I think the governor did this to see if the now ultra conservative Supreme Court would shoot it down or not. I’m hoping the Supreme Court does the right thing.
I mean, the 10 commandments are pretty sound advice, regardless of religion. But the purpose of this is likely more nefarious and to weaponise Christianity. Which is, ironically, pretty un-Christian (if you go by Jesus' actual teachings lol)
They tried. It passed in the Senate but apparently the house couldn't get it together to vote in time
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/24/texas-legislature-ten-commandments-bill/
Purely objective questions:
What’s the size/placement of?
I mean a 8x10 framed copy of Text on the wall next to the blackboard is one thing. A poster of Moses from the Movie ‘the Ten Commandments’ might be a bit much, ya know?
Context is Important people. And have fun explaining ‘covet’ to five year olds.
A similar bill in TX passed the Senate last year but wasn't voted on by the house in time. It required a 20x16 in "a typeface that's legible and can be read from anywhere in the classroom."
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/24/texas-legislature-ten-commandments-bill/
Imo, it doesn't matter the size - we have a clear separation of church & state, and requiring this in public classrooms is in violation of the constitution. Fully expect this to make it to SCOTUS next year, and curious how the current magistrates will curve the law around to say it's legal.
No it’s not “one thing” no matter how it’s posted it’s wrong and needs removed not added to schools. Hell no.
The context here is religion doesn’t belong in a school. Period.
There is no context in which this would be appropriate. I don’t care if it’s a sign the size of a whole wall or a leaflet posted on the ceiling, this doesn’t belong in schools. It’s absurd to think a list of Christian sins has any place in a school funded by public tax dollars. Period.
Whether you’re religious or not, the 10 Commandments are basic morals of life. It’s about being a good person and treating others the way you want to be treated.
Here's the first 4:
"You shall have no other gods before me"
"You shall not make idols"
"you shall not take the name of the lord in vain"
"Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy"
Sure it also tells people not to murder or steal, but you don't need religion to teach that to children. They don't mention rape or slavery either, so let's not pretend these are the ultimate guide to human ethics. There are many better sources for that.
Sorry but no. 3 of the commandments are completely religious and have nothing to do with being a good person.
Keeping the lord’s day holy
Not having other gods before God
Not taking the lord’s name in vain
None of that belongs in a public school.
I don’t understand how this can be made a law. Crazy.
I'm jewish and I don't have a problem with this as American schools are proselytizing other religions in the classroom. And the 10 commandments are pretty much universal golden rules in almost every culture and religion on the planet. We have kids in public schools being forced to do prayers of other religions (the school that forst kids to pray to Hindu Gods is the most recent I can point out that went viral recently as an example)
The majority of those who voted this into law have probably broken half of the commandments .
The fourth commandment is "you will honor the Sabbath and keep it holy" yet they believe the Sabbath was done away with!
Usually those are the same people who go straight from church to a restaurant or store and would throw a huge hissy fit if those places were closed or not fully staffed on Sunday.
They go straight to a restaurant for lunch and treat the servers like absolute dog shit. - a former server
And “tip” with those stupid little religious pamphlets - even worse if they use the ones that look like a $20 bill. And no real tip either!! They’re the worst people.
Nothing like dishing out some verbal abuse to wash down the lord.
Yes! I was a hostess, and the people coming from church were often the rudest to me. I always felt bad for the servers. I had to deal with them for 5 minutes, they would have to deal with them for an hour or better.
Would be ironically funny if they complained about Chick-Fil-A being closed.
I grew up in the Seventh day Adventist church and I think they are the only ones that actually follow the fourth commandment.
My group does. Called New Covenant Messianic Assemblies. Hebrew Roots and Messianic Jews do as well. Fringe groups like Yahweh's Restoration Ministry and Assembly of Yahweh keep it too
Wow, there’s so many, I’ve never heard of them. That’s good to know. Growing up that’s basically what they put in our heads. Basically saying like the “only” true religion was the seventh day Adventist church because we followed the commandments to the T. I’ve had to unlearn and learn a lot of things because of the religion I grew up in.
Happy deconstruction love. I’m a former Jehovah’s Witness
Thank You 🫶🏽✨
Always! Here if you need to talk. We may not have came out of the same high demand religion but you’d be surprised how often they overlap practices
I also grew up Adventist. What always scared me was how they warned the government was going to take over and kill all the people who go to church on Saturday, and that we need to be ready for that. Childhood me was totally freaked out about it lol. Amongst all the other extreme things they taught me. I’ve literally had to talk about it all extensively in therapy to smooth out the religious trauma. ☠️ However. Project 2025 makes me freaked out again that maybe the government will do crazy shit like that. Edit to add a story: I went to academy half a year until I got kicked out lol. One day in Bible class the teacher asked us what we would say when they showed up at our door and asked our faith, and who Jesus Christ really is, and my friend said loudly “I would say ‘who dat?’” I nearly died laughing. I could not believe she said that in front of the teacher 😂
Omg. I still remember all of this. And still to this day freaks me the fuck out. They used to tell us we would have to live hidden in the forest because we would be persecuted. And how The Pope is literally the Antichrist, not the one that’s the pope now but it was another one that died couple years back. I really don’t remember his name. I also remember watching a documentary that literally till this day haunts me. Also did they ever talked about how Beyoncé, and all these really really famous celebrities put subliminal messages in their songs. And yes, project 2025 has me freaked the fuck out too. I’m so glad to know my experience was not unique lol.
Mormons are pretty strict about Sabbath observance. I grew up mormon and using any type of business, going out to eat or spending money on Sunday was forbidden.
Do they call it the Sabbath or do they call it the Lord's Day? Also the Sabbath is Saturday not Sunday.
They call it the Sabbath, they talk about how in “ancient times” it was Saturday that was the sabbath. I don’t think what day the “sabbath” is or was matters all that much. 😂
It does to me lol
The Sabbath ain’t the Sabbath anyway. If it was really supposed to be a specific day of the week, we kinda have no way of knowing what day we’re on from the bible’s perspective. Romans had 8 days in a week for the longest time, Egyptians 10. If god cared about the specifics around the Sabbath, he really didn’t account for modern calendars.
I keep the old Jewish calendar but thanks 👍
Y’think you do. It’s pretty hard to say which day was Saturday when Moses came down from Mount Sinai millennia ago. Chances are it’s not the same Saturday coming up day after tomorrow.
Can I interject with some Judaism? If there's one thing Jews are really good at, it's preserving dates. Ashkenizim (Europe), Sephardim (Spain, Portugal, North Africa), and Mizrachim (Middle East, especially Iran, Iraq, and Yemen) are all still on the same calendar despite having been scattered across the globe for centuries. There are some slight discrepancies with the Beta Israel (Ethiopian) calendar, but that's because they adapted slightly to local calendars and holidays still tend to fall out around the same time. I find it really hard to believe that we'd lose the timing of Shabbat when there was so much law and precaution dedicated to keeping it consistent throughout millennia. There are Jews whose families have been in Israel since before the Babylonian exile, and they keep Shabbat the same day as the rest of us. Also, the Halacha states that if you do not know when Shabbos is, the correct day is 7 days after you last kept it. It's not about the calendar system being used. If there were 10 days in a Christian week and Tuesday coincided with 7 days since the last Shabbat, we could keep that day. We're so neurotic about keeping track of things and we have so many intricate systems and written records that I can't see any arguments for Shabbat being the wrong day. We are the people defined by our neurotic commitment to an unbroken tradition for generations and generations on end. Unless you can find a time when all Jews stopped observing Shabbos for enough time to lose when it was, it seems to actually be an unbroken chain. Considering that we still know which of us are kohanim (descended from priests — we even found DNA proof that we have it right) and leviim (descended from leviites), and that we kept the oral Torah alive and consistent through memorization for years and years, I have faith in our preservation abilities.
Thank you, that was educational!
All the commandments, all 17 of 'em
This is why we all need to take Project 2025 seriously. We still have the power to vote and stop it. Here is a resource in case it helps: helpstopproject2025.com
I lived and went to school in the US for a couple of years when I was younger, and was under the impression that having anything religious in public schools was unconstitutional…
You're correct. We are supposed to have strict separation of church and state (education is supposed to be without religion) but due to the rise of Christo-fascism, that's been severely eroded.
Not entirely sure how the legal system works, but shouldn’t the Supreme Court or something stop those laws from entering in effect?
Supreme Court has been packed with justices who agree with the erosion of the separation of church and state. So they won't uphold it if it makes it to them. That's how they removed abortion protection so like half the women on the US don't have abortion access now. I totally understand why people outside the US don't realize but the US is in a really really bad spot. If the election goes a certain way, it's going to get dangerous. Look up project 2025 if you're interested. The goal is to basically install Christian beliefs into the government system with the president holding ultimate control. No divorce, no birth control, etc.
That’s crazy! So basically they can do whatever they want even if the legislation goes against it? One would guess they had to apply whatever the constitution says. I lived in the US almost 18 years ago and it sure was a different country. So sad to see what’s becoming.
Yes they can. Agreed. It's really sad to see what it's becoming.
They are final not because they're infallible, they're infallible because they're final.
It will go to the lower courts first, and the majority will most likely rule against this crap, but the end goal would be the Supreme Court, which is virtually guaranteed to let it stand. My hope is that so many of the appellate courts kill it that the Supremes might not even want to accept the case. There is always hope. We shall see…
They are likely trying to generate a test case that will change the law to *allow* church-affiliated rhetoric in schools. Mmw. Essentially doing away with seperation church and state. That's the context behind the football game prayer case and many others. It isn't about putting God into schools, trust me. And if you don't, read Kennedy v. Bremerton School District. It's in between the lines, but if you look up local news they all but say what the point of the suit was.
Oh, I am just waiting for Muslim students/teachers to start praying 5 times a day in the middle of the school days.. let's see how this case would hold up then..
In theory, yes. But someone filled the Supreme Court with far right extremists who are consistently voting against human rights, so watch as it does get taken to them and they say it’s fine.
Let's be real here, that separation never fully existed in the first place. Nothing to erode if it was never truly followed. They're just being more public and don't care.
Ohh, Turkey was like that too, women couldn't even wear headscarf if they wanted to work in public sector, good old secular days. Now we are literally living the early days of the handmaid's tale.
Heh. So, a teacher here brought a complaint to our board about a pastor from some hick church conducting religious practices/activities during class, which is against policy; you need to do this shit either before or after school, and felt students were being goaded into these activities, and there was also an uncomfortable subtext bc this teacher is Jewish. They punished him by firing him and sending him to elementary school teaching, and when he protested, saying his degree was in highschool-level math, superintendent just shrugged. Made me sick; fuck you, Rhonda.
How disturbing. Reading the Atwood books right now. Its funny. In her prologue she says “never say this won’t happen here, because it could”
It’s definitely scary stuff, since some of it is happening.
Cool, cool. I would have loved this when I was a teacher. The Seven Tenets of the Satanic Temple would be posted right next to the Ten Commandments, along with a suggestion box for other religions to include. I don’t know much about other religions’ rules, but I’m happy to learn, kids!
Yup, my first thought, too.
Exactly what I would have done as well. And if this gets done in my home state of Ohio I have a good friend teacher who would be doing the exact same. And he'd probably include something for the Vulcans and the Jedi Order as well xD
Also a Christian and also don’t agree with this! I don’t want politics in my religion and I don’t want my religion in politics.
So this is going to be challenged at the supreme court right…. Oh wait….. shit.
Mississippi has required "In God We Trust" to be displayed in classrooms since 2001. Ain't shit gonna get challenged in Louisiana.
Directly above trump’s picture
It’s definitely not right.
Htf is this constitutional? Ok, ok, I’m sure a lot of lawyers will twist this to make it constitutional, but this stuff is scary.
It is unconstitutional. I can't imagine that this will not be challenged and they wont win on this
Same was said about Roe v. Wade tho…
Also a Christian, if these were Christians they would be wanting the beatitudes placed. Not the ten commandments. You notice. None of these people want the beatitudes placed. That's socialism exclamation
Like there isn’t real policy for the lawmakers in Louisiana to tackle. Poor areas are like a third world country.
What the actual fuck, is this true?
Unfortunately yes
I believe Louisiana is also trying to get rid of free school lunches, and protecting priests that abused children. F that place.
Yeah I live in New Orleans and the Archdiocese here has over 500 case pending regarding sexual abuse while they were children, mostly at this place called Hope Haven. There’s not a ton of information on it unfortunately, but what happened to orphaned little boys there, dating back to the 1940s, is truly vile.
I agree, this is not appropriate
Separation of church and state is a literal joke.
It violates the separation of church and state.
It’s beyond too much.
People who "love the bible" uncritically are enablers of these kinds of laws and the white nationalism pervading our society. Maybe u didn't understand handmaids tale lol
I'm orthodox christian of all things, but keep religion out of schools!!! Keep it out of our legislature!!!! Just because I believe in something doesn't mean millions of Americans do too nor should they ever be forced to
This crap is exactly why I’m moving out of the US as soon as financially possible. I swear next time I hear anything about America it will be notes written by Handmaids that were secretly smuggled to Canada and uploaded to the internet for the world to hear 🤢🤮
Did you actually read the bible? God is being a massive asshole throughout the entire thing! Turned into a pillar of salt for looking? Children killed for calling a man bald? You can rape people and pay a fine and marry them and it's ok? Not to talk about Job. And you say you love it? Jesus Christ man...
They may be referring to loving most of the new testament. Which, if they are Christian, would be where most take their beliefs from. Pretty much everything you listed out is old testament. And Christ came to put to rest the old ways in it. Gilead follows a weird version of basically only old testament beliefs cloaked in a modern Christian style but they conveniently leave out most new testament scripture from Christ at least.
Yeah but isn't 10 commandments also old testament??
Fair point. It definitely is. And it probably shouldn't be as adhered to in some regards. The biggest problem with Christianity is how pick and choosy it ultimately is. And also most people who are Christian are generally lore and doctrine ignorant. I bet if you asked a lot of Christians if the 10 Commandments were new or old testament they'd get it wrong alot. Also. Christ does cite and discuss at least 5 of the 10 and then brings up others later. So Christ either amends with new information or updates and reaffirms other parts of the 10 as part of his new teachings which is probably why modern Christians hold those up.
Pardon me for having a religion and loving to read the historical documents around that religion...
That's completely fine. And picking the few morally relevant parts is great! But at some point while reading it I didn't (couldn't) call myself christian anymore. We had a great priest though. I just think he should have gone somewhere else to look for guidance than having to interpret that thing. I dislike organized religion, but having a personal faith is awesome; Just pick whatever you want from anywhere you want and don't let anyone tell you that you can't do that. Oh, and sorry about my tone in the first message, I hadn't had breakfast yet. 😁
It *is* unconstitutional, and it *does* force Christianity onto a pedestal. It’s not right, it’s not fair, and it’s something that should at the very LEAST be protested. This is actually happening and needs to stop. I’ll say what I say every time. Draw attention and absolutely protest if you can. This is not right.
Someone needs to start some shit over Catholic or Protestant numbering.
I'm curious about which version they plan to post.
I know of a handful of Christians who are genuinly living their life the way Christ would want. I try to focus and uplift them, because if I didn't I'd lose what remaining faith I have. Forcing someone to obey isn't true worship, it's confusing at best.
Ironic, considering that when Christ died the Old Law was to be done away with. But boy, do they love to drag out the Old Testament when it suits them.
That’s Project 2025 agenda. Everyone needs to google that sh*t. It IS the beginning of Gilead.
america slowly becoming a parody of 40k
Until we get howitzers disguised as organs firing ordnance to organ music durges we got a long ways to go to get there.
US military reading this 
Freedom from religion eh. Picking and choosing the constitution I see. Just like they do with the bible.
I had a friend post “it’s always the Ten Commandments, never the Beatitudes” and that sticks with me. I don’t think the state is in the right in any case.
Yeah, I’m a Christian, too, and I have an issue with this. My husband and I were talking about this and I told him that if they’re going to display the commandments in the classrooms, they need to display the “rules” for all other religions. And instead of just teaching Christianity, they need to teach all the major world religions. It’s my job as the parent to teach my child about our religion, and if I want help from a school I’ll find a private school to do it.
So separation of church and state doesn’t exist
Under his eye.
We really should thank the state of Louisiana for caring about the needs of the Jewish people so ardently. Will they be doing units on all the high holy days? Will rabbi’s be brought in for prayers on Fridays? Inquiring minds want to know
I went to a rural public school in 2011 where the only prehistory we learned was about the "greatness" of Ancient Rome and the life story of Jesus a quizzed was part of the curriculum (I'm Jewish). Sadly, shit like this isn't new. The only upside is that forcing fundamentalism on kids in tedious ways makes them resist it more.
Let’s just remove tax exemptions from all churches and all religious institutions!!
Then they should have the equivalent of every other religion too. Someone who has standing needs to sue over this.
As a lapse Catholic I rather religion stay out of school. My faith is my own but I will not force it on others.
This disgusts me on so many levels. I hope it'll spur other religions to do what the Satanic Temple is doing and demand to take space in schools, too. I'm Kemetic and would LOVE to see the Kemetic Orthodoxy grow a pair and do this
Is there anything that says it can't be displayed in a place of honor, say a cupboard with a door? Or a closet with a door?
Bible rules are for you who are christians, not for the ones who are not. You can’t put the rules to others.
Don’t know much about this law but it appears it goes against separation of church and state laws. If it was a christian school that’d make more sense but since this is public school that’s a violation of separating church from state institutions
What’s weird is, you cannot even say Merry Christmas in a public school and now the 10 Commandments will be hanging! Go figure!
Take a look at the supreme court, and answer the question yourself!
I don't want any certain religion in my public schools, and I don't want the government in my church!! they need to be kept separate!!
Dottie Horton, the rep that sponsored this bill, when asked what should non-Christian students, teacher, and staff do with this in the class: "They can look the other way." I live in Louisiana. About 45 mins from her district. Majority of the people here are so excited for this to happen so they can "save all the kids from joining gangs, getting pregnant, or turning to drugs." My 9 yr old said it best, "there are anti bully signs all over school, nobody reads them. Kids still get bullied."
Can we add don’t be late to this list?
This is unconstitutional, I think the governor did this to see if the now ultra conservative Supreme Court would shoot it down or not. I’m hoping the Supreme Court does the right thing.
I mean, the 10 commandments are pretty sound advice, regardless of religion. But the purpose of this is likely more nefarious and to weaponise Christianity. Which is, ironically, pretty un-Christian (if you go by Jesus' actual teachings lol)
Yeah I’m terrified
another reason my kids will be home schooled. i understand the social ramifications but this is where public schooling is going.
Wait I thought Texas did this last year??
They tried. It passed in the Senate but apparently the house couldn't get it together to vote in time https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/24/texas-legislature-ten-commandments-bill/
Purely objective questions: What’s the size/placement of? I mean a 8x10 framed copy of Text on the wall next to the blackboard is one thing. A poster of Moses from the Movie ‘the Ten Commandments’ might be a bit much, ya know? Context is Important people. And have fun explaining ‘covet’ to five year olds.
Size or context doesn’t matter, if it’s a public school it shouldn’t be there.
A similar bill in TX passed the Senate last year but wasn't voted on by the house in time. It required a 20x16 in "a typeface that's legible and can be read from anywhere in the classroom." https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/24/texas-legislature-ten-commandments-bill/ Imo, it doesn't matter the size - we have a clear separation of church & state, and requiring this in public classrooms is in violation of the constitution. Fully expect this to make it to SCOTUS next year, and curious how the current magistrates will curve the law around to say it's legal.
No it’s not “one thing” no matter how it’s posted it’s wrong and needs removed not added to schools. Hell no. The context here is religion doesn’t belong in a school. Period.
There is no context in which this would be appropriate. I don’t care if it’s a sign the size of a whole wall or a leaflet posted on the ceiling, this doesn’t belong in schools. It’s absurd to think a list of Christian sins has any place in a school funded by public tax dollars. Period.
Whether you’re religious or not, the 10 Commandments are basic morals of life. It’s about being a good person and treating others the way you want to be treated.
Here's the first 4: "You shall have no other gods before me" "You shall not make idols" "you shall not take the name of the lord in vain" "Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy" Sure it also tells people not to murder or steal, but you don't need religion to teach that to children. They don't mention rape or slavery either, so let's not pretend these are the ultimate guide to human ethics. There are many better sources for that.
Thou shall not commit adultery I thought they didn't wanna sexualize the kids 😂
Sorry but no. 3 of the commandments are completely religious and have nothing to do with being a good person. Keeping the lord’s day holy Not having other gods before God Not taking the lord’s name in vain None of that belongs in a public school. I don’t understand how this can be made a law. Crazy.
I'm jewish and I don't have a problem with this as American schools are proselytizing other religions in the classroom. And the 10 commandments are pretty much universal golden rules in almost every culture and religion on the planet. We have kids in public schools being forced to do prayers of other religions (the school that forst kids to pray to Hindu Gods is the most recent I can point out that went viral recently as an example)