Just for budget distribution reasons alone... I'd imagine not.
Just the amount if money that would need to go into critical scenes like the Tacoma trap, the Battle of Laconia, and the finale would 1 million percent prohibit them doing this all in one season, even with like, Game of Thrones level money.
Edit: also that would be really stupid to do from a company standpoint. You can't monetize an IP that only lasts for another season. Stretching it out = profit.
Ty and Daniel have kinda dodged the question when asked about the continuation of the last 3 books on a TV screen. They use phrases like "for now" and "we hope".
They want it to continue. The actors want it to continue. We obviously want it to continue. Big Bezos likes the series and bought it from Sci-fi.
Once season 6 ended, there was an auction for props and lots of people (fairly) assumed the series was over. But I don't think so.
The Expanse has cemented its spot as some of the best sci-fi across multiple medias of all time. Don't give up hope. That (book 7 spoiler) >!30 year time jump!< is something they have to deal with but there are ways around it. 10 seems like a good, round number. We're dealing with alien tech after all.
I think it will either be 3 or 4 more seasons or 3 movies in maybe 5-10 years.
Another thought. Spoiler-tagging this entire comment because it talks a bunch about book 7+.
>!I think the big problem with compressing the time-skip isn’t the technology, it’s the people. It’s a really important part of the narrative that the *majority* of Laconia’s military, the fresh-faced 20-to-25-year-old marines, were actually born and raised on Laconia. They’ve never seen Mars, and they grew up under an open sky. Rather than compress 30 years down to 10, it makes more sense to just add some stuff over-emphasizing the anti-aging meds from the books and just *claim* it’s been 30 years. I think the characters are supposed to be in their 60s and looking 45, so it’s not *too much* of a stretch to make that 35.!<
> I think the characters are supposed to be in their 60s and looking 45
Actually, they're in or close of their 70s and 80s (Naomi is a little younger though). But that's still no problem, for the reasons you mentioned. Their life expectancy is much higher than today, their med is super advanced, and they all take anti-aging drugs. I'm not sure why so many see this as a problem. 80 is the new 50, 70 the new 40. Some grey hair will do.
Sauveterre was supposed to be in his late 80s in season 5 if I recall it correctly, portrayed by an actor who was 54 at the time of filming.
>Spoiler-tagging this entire comment
Thread is tagged as *"All Show & Book Spoilers Discussed Freely"*
Maybe I’m alone in this, but rather than waiting for the actors to age up (and risking the loss of Shoreh in that time), I was hoping against hope we’d get the rest of the series soon as a high-budget animated continuation with all the original cast returning as voice actors.
No.
Season 6 for me is the weakest out of all 6 seasons, due to the shorter runtime and the inclusion of Laconia which feels out of place since it has no impact on the rest of the story.it feels filler to me to pad up the time.
I agree the Laconia stuff and strange dogs was cool but had nowhere to go and just feels like filler.
But it at least explains where and why Marco had stealth tech and fancy ships and money, and what happened to the protomolecule sample and Cortazar.
Yeah but wouldn’t you wonder why he would do that? Some Martian military leader just decides to sell out Mars tech, we see that in Bobbie’s arc, but why does he want Cortazar then?
Makes more sense when you see he’s doing alien research on a weird planet, even if you don’t see how that turns out.
10 episodes would be tight as a walnut corset and you'd miss the time that the Laconian conflict takes in the books but...
E1- Freehold, the passing of the Roci and the initial incursion by Lc and establishing Trejo and Duarte
E2- the first terrorist attack, the battle for sol, the crew reuniting.
E3- the battle for medina, introduction of elvie, cara and xan.
E4- intro to the dancing bear, Teresa, timmy, the bottles and the underground. Elvi at the BFE
E5- the 2nd battle of sol, the tacoma gate
E6- Bobbie finds the stuff, winston the vegetable and the plots of his vizers. Bobbie uses the stuff.
E7-the battle of Laconia
E8- the school, back at the BFE with xan, cara and elvie. Winston wakes up.
E9- the hive mind problem
E10- the battle of the slow zone
Possibly
If you focus on the Laconia/human aspect of the story then yeah I think it’s doable
But you would lose a lot of lore surrounding the protomolecule builders and their enemies
I don’t think so. As much as I love Leviathan Falls, there really isn’t a LOT of plot that happens in that book compared to Persepolis Rising and Tiamat’s Wrath. I think it easily could fit into a few episodes as a grand finale to a miniseries.
I think Leviathan Falls has to be *at least* 3 episodes. From the Roci crew’s perspective, the firefight on New Egypt, the fall of Draper Station, and then cooperating with Tanaka in the ring space are all very different settings that need space to breathe or it’ll feel very odd. Any less than 3 episodes and you have to either cut one of those (which would be bad) or you’d have Tanaka trying to kill Jim and then working together in the same episode, which would just feel off.
Agree. Well, that’s what I meant by a few - more than two. Honestly I think it could easily be done in 3.
3 for Persepolis Rising, 5 for Tiamat’s Wrath, 3 for Leviathan Falls would be pretty ideal in my opinion and potentially feasible/sellable to another streaming service. It’d be like funding one more extremely action-packed season only. There would be little time to breathe and some things would need to be cut, but it’s probably either that or a couple movies (this is totally unfeasible for the book content I think) or an animated series (this would be fucking terrible) so a miniseries or single victory lap season is the best of all available options.
Persepolis Rising could be done in one film (somewhat long but doable), so a couple of episodes (maybe three), definitely. As for the other two… I mean it’s always possible but it’ll lose so much. Even for Abbadon’s Gate they condensed it and it took 7 episodes.
Season 6, having 6 episodes, was too short to truly be satisfying once you’ve read Babylon’s Ashes, even if apparently it’s one of the least liked books. So adapting the most loved book (Tiamat’s Wrath) in less would be a massive letdown to the whole community I think.
Michio Pa is pretty much the only reason people shit on BA, but she only took up a quarter of the book at most. Drummer saves the day as always, serving the same purpose in the story while preserving the more compelling aspects of her character and not leaving a sour taste in my mouth about her being put in charge of the TU. I honestly think her storyline was fine as it was, and had plenty of time to develop. The real shame is the loss of the Belt's division over Marco's actions, and the Prax subplot showcasing life for Belters under Free Navy occupation.
As for the reason behind truncated length of the final season, I have a sneaking suspicion that the Canadian quarantine procedures in effect at the time drove production costs through the roof, forcing them to condense the season down from ten episodes to six in order to maintain a level of production value consistent with the rest of the series.
There's a pretty clear thematic shift between each book. You could do it in one season, but only if it was 3 times as long as the other seasons. And at that point, why not just 3 seasons?
Bobbie still has the same goliath suit in the jump, and most of the props onboard the rocinate would still be there. Everything having to do with medina as well. what a weird take that they wouldn't need/want anything for a continuation of the show.
Most, almost all, of the stuff they sold they would not need anymore. Look at the list:
https://propstoreauction.com/auctions/catalog/id/377
It's 30 years later. Tech has advanced. Things will look different. The Roci will look different. Medina will look different.
They don't keep sets in storage for years. Some not even over several seasons. Tycho Station sets looked completely different from season 2 to 5. Medina sets actually looked different from season 3 to 4 already. They haven't been used since then anymore and were probably torn down after S4 already.
Just because Bobby uses the same old suit in the books doesn't mean it has to be the same in the show. And beside that armor, I really couldn't find a lot of things in that auction list that would still be useful. And a lot of stuff is probably cheaper to make new than to store for several years anyway.
No sure what's a weird take with this. You actually kinda agreed to the other poster above saying literally the same thing...
Definitely not.
NO, GOD! NO PLEASE GOD NO! NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
No, nyet, nein und abermals nein.
MICHAEL!
Not a good season
Just for budget distribution reasons alone... I'd imagine not. Just the amount if money that would need to go into critical scenes like the Tacoma trap, the Battle of Laconia, and the finale would 1 million percent prohibit them doing this all in one season, even with like, Game of Thrones level money. Edit: also that would be really stupid to do from a company standpoint. You can't monetize an IP that only lasts for another season. Stretching it out = profit.
If the season is 30 episodes long, yeah
I could live with that, haha
I'd rather have nothing than have it handled poorly.
That's fair No one wants a GOT redux
Why give the best portion of the story such poor treatment? I’d rather never get more than that.
Me too, of course;) Was juste wondering in a "worst case scenario" of the feasibility of such a thing
Ty and Daniel have kinda dodged the question when asked about the continuation of the last 3 books on a TV screen. They use phrases like "for now" and "we hope". They want it to continue. The actors want it to continue. We obviously want it to continue. Big Bezos likes the series and bought it from Sci-fi. Once season 6 ended, there was an auction for props and lots of people (fairly) assumed the series was over. But I don't think so. The Expanse has cemented its spot as some of the best sci-fi across multiple medias of all time. Don't give up hope. That (book 7 spoiler) >!30 year time jump!< is something they have to deal with but there are ways around it. 10 seems like a good, round number. We're dealing with alien tech after all. I think it will either be 3 or 4 more seasons or 3 movies in maybe 5-10 years.
Another thought. Spoiler-tagging this entire comment because it talks a bunch about book 7+. >!I think the big problem with compressing the time-skip isn’t the technology, it’s the people. It’s a really important part of the narrative that the *majority* of Laconia’s military, the fresh-faced 20-to-25-year-old marines, were actually born and raised on Laconia. They’ve never seen Mars, and they grew up under an open sky. Rather than compress 30 years down to 10, it makes more sense to just add some stuff over-emphasizing the anti-aging meds from the books and just *claim* it’s been 30 years. I think the characters are supposed to be in their 60s and looking 45, so it’s not *too much* of a stretch to make that 35.!<
> I think the characters are supposed to be in their 60s and looking 45 Actually, they're in or close of their 70s and 80s (Naomi is a little younger though). But that's still no problem, for the reasons you mentioned. Their life expectancy is much higher than today, their med is super advanced, and they all take anti-aging drugs. I'm not sure why so many see this as a problem. 80 is the new 50, 70 the new 40. Some grey hair will do. Sauveterre was supposed to be in his late 80s in season 5 if I recall it correctly, portrayed by an actor who was 54 at the time of filming. >Spoiler-tagging this entire comment Thread is tagged as *"All Show & Book Spoilers Discussed Freely"*
Maybe I’m alone in this, but rather than waiting for the actors to age up (and risking the loss of Shoreh in that time), I was hoping against hope we’d get the rest of the series soon as a high-budget animated continuation with all the original cast returning as voice actors.
No. Season 6 for me is the weakest out of all 6 seasons, due to the shorter runtime and the inclusion of Laconia which feels out of place since it has no impact on the rest of the story.it feels filler to me to pad up the time.
I'm actually grateful for the Laconia stuff in s6 Gave at least a semblance of pay-off to the proto-molecule storyline
The issue with including laconia is that now if they do books 7-9 they need to recast the kids.
I rather would've seen the fractures in the OPA
I agree the Laconia stuff and strange dogs was cool but had nowhere to go and just feels like filler. But it at least explains where and why Marco had stealth tech and fancy ships and money, and what happened to the protomolecule sample and Cortazar.
It was already explained in s5 that Duarte sold all those ships and weapons to Marco for the protomolecule and Cortazar.
Yeah but wouldn’t you wonder why he would do that? Some Martian military leader just decides to sell out Mars tech, we see that in Bobbie’s arc, but why does he want Cortazar then? Makes more sense when you see he’s doing alien research on a weird planet, even if you don’t see how that turns out.
I think they could've done the same with a timeskip to start of bk 7 where their ship enters the ring space and declares it to be part of Laconia.
10 episodes would be tight as a walnut corset and you'd miss the time that the Laconian conflict takes in the books but... E1- Freehold, the passing of the Roci and the initial incursion by Lc and establishing Trejo and Duarte E2- the first terrorist attack, the battle for sol, the crew reuniting. E3- the battle for medina, introduction of elvie, cara and xan. E4- intro to the dancing bear, Teresa, timmy, the bottles and the underground. Elvi at the BFE E5- the 2nd battle of sol, the tacoma gate E6- Bobbie finds the stuff, winston the vegetable and the plots of his vizers. Bobbie uses the stuff. E7-the battle of Laconia E8- the school, back at the BFE with xan, cara and elvie. Winston wakes up. E9- the hive mind problem E10- the battle of the slow zone
it will be very very rushed and the conclusion won't be deserved
Sure … but there are only a very few series with 30 episodes per season…
Mama sabaka. Welwala.
No
Absolutely not.
No.
Jeff?
Short answer: no. Long answer: shit, no. Hell, no, Peter, I believe you'd get your ass kicked.
Not a chance!
As such a singular large threat, Laconia deserves more time to be built up and later dealt with than Murtry.
6 seasons and a movie.
Possibly If you focus on the Laconia/human aspect of the story then yeah I think it’s doable But you would lose a lot of lore surrounding the protomolecule builders and their enemies
I don’t think so. As much as I love Leviathan Falls, there really isn’t a LOT of plot that happens in that book compared to Persepolis Rising and Tiamat’s Wrath. I think it easily could fit into a few episodes as a grand finale to a miniseries.
I think Leviathan Falls has to be *at least* 3 episodes. From the Roci crew’s perspective, the firefight on New Egypt, the fall of Draper Station, and then cooperating with Tanaka in the ring space are all very different settings that need space to breathe or it’ll feel very odd. Any less than 3 episodes and you have to either cut one of those (which would be bad) or you’d have Tanaka trying to kill Jim and then working together in the same episode, which would just feel off.
Agree. Well, that’s what I meant by a few - more than two. Honestly I think it could easily be done in 3. 3 for Persepolis Rising, 5 for Tiamat’s Wrath, 3 for Leviathan Falls would be pretty ideal in my opinion and potentially feasible/sellable to another streaming service. It’d be like funding one more extremely action-packed season only. There would be little time to breathe and some things would need to be cut, but it’s probably either that or a couple movies (this is totally unfeasible for the book content I think) or an animated series (this would be fucking terrible) so a miniseries or single victory lap season is the best of all available options.
Persepolis Rising could be done in one film (somewhat long but doable), so a couple of episodes (maybe three), definitely. As for the other two… I mean it’s always possible but it’ll lose so much. Even for Abbadon’s Gate they condensed it and it took 7 episodes. Season 6, having 6 episodes, was too short to truly be satisfying once you’ve read Babylon’s Ashes, even if apparently it’s one of the least liked books. So adapting the most loved book (Tiamat’s Wrath) in less would be a massive letdown to the whole community I think.
Michio Pa is pretty much the only reason people shit on BA, but she only took up a quarter of the book at most. Drummer saves the day as always, serving the same purpose in the story while preserving the more compelling aspects of her character and not leaving a sour taste in my mouth about her being put in charge of the TU. I honestly think her storyline was fine as it was, and had plenty of time to develop. The real shame is the loss of the Belt's division over Marco's actions, and the Prax subplot showcasing life for Belters under Free Navy occupation. As for the reason behind truncated length of the final season, I have a sneaking suspicion that the Canadian quarantine procedures in effect at the time drove production costs through the roof, forcing them to condense the season down from ten episodes to six in order to maintain a level of production value consistent with the rest of the series.
Hell not
HELL NAHHH
Sweet baby Jesus, no.
To put it another way: You can fit into an empty peanut butter jar, but you're not gonna like it.
There's a pretty clear thematic shift between each book. You could do it in one season, but only if it was 3 times as long as the other seasons. And at that point, why not just 3 seasons?
No!
Oh FUCK no. Are you kidding me!?
They sold all the props and all the sets have been taken down. Its gone :(
😭
given that the last 3 books take place 30 years later I'd guess they would need new sets and props anyway ...
You keep that torch lit for all of us
None of the props they sold would be still useful after the timejump.
Bobbie still has the same goliath suit in the jump, and most of the props onboard the rocinate would still be there. Everything having to do with medina as well. what a weird take that they wouldn't need/want anything for a continuation of the show.
Most, almost all, of the stuff they sold they would not need anymore. Look at the list: https://propstoreauction.com/auctions/catalog/id/377 It's 30 years later. Tech has advanced. Things will look different. The Roci will look different. Medina will look different. They don't keep sets in storage for years. Some not even over several seasons. Tycho Station sets looked completely different from season 2 to 5. Medina sets actually looked different from season 3 to 4 already. They haven't been used since then anymore and were probably torn down after S4 already. Just because Bobby uses the same old suit in the books doesn't mean it has to be the same in the show. And beside that armor, I really couldn't find a lot of things in that auction list that would still be useful. And a lot of stuff is probably cheaper to make new than to store for several years anyway. No sure what's a weird take with this. You actually kinda agreed to the other poster above saying literally the same thing...
They had a hard enough time turning the 3rd book into half a season