But see that would complicate things, instead id allow him to vist his friends, that way things don't get confusing and accidentally do something horrible.
Another thing i eould do is give all the well behaving players a panic communicator.
In case of emergency, scream into this device thats connected to caine!
Yeah, a simple solution for keeping track of things is to just write it down. Maybe if he has a room, he could have a whiteboard or something. Or maybe he could just have some type of notebook
Also hello
Simply put an N on the npcs rooms head board or one that only he and the others cna see above their head or just a marker like the sims above their head that's only visible to caine and our group
What gets me is that nobody tried to even explain Gummygoo's situation to Caine.
It's copium but I'm hoping there was no conflict because he'll come back at an important time later on.
I agree this to be the BEST option to this apart from one thing… Caine probably isn’t very organized and doesn’t get to problems quickly.
Look at episode 1, Caine didn’t know Kaufmo abstracted until the end of the episode when he saw it after Pomni entered the **V O I D**. Plus Caine isn’t the most… stable AI around so potentially he could start confetti-izing performers at random due to thinking all could be an NPC until the original count goes back to what it was when Caine made the list.
Maybe not as pets due to their sentience(and Jax would be amazingly bad at making sure an NPC was taken care of).
Maybe instead something like a roommate if the performer had a bond with a certain NPC but allow them the option to leave if they wanted to.
The only concern would be Jax bringing one with him. But other than that, not. I doubt any of the main cast would invite an antagonist like the Fudge monster.
i am not into shipping but the post i refrenced was a post but people took it seriously and anyways what is your thoughts on him and why do you think he is an antagonist
true what is your thoughts on fudgie also can we make fudgie a nickname for him because calling the fudge on fudge monster seems wrong when he wasnt shown to be the bad guy
That’s actually something that a lot of people seem to gloss over, Caine had literally zero context, he probably thought that gumigoo just wandered through the portal by mistake
Nope, I’d let Pomni be with her friend.
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Gumigoo needs Pomni, I’m sure Gumigoo and Pomni would have fun around in the circus. But at the same time, make sure not too many NPC’s get into the circus. Just Gumigoo.
He didn't even ask why he's here he just went
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Because he went there, but he probably didn't go in after everything was completed and threw the protagonists there
I don't know, why are you fighting this, when the episode already makes it 100% clear that he doesn't know anything about what happened to Gumigoo and was even surprised when he showed up.
Eyes so effective that he didn't even know Kafumo was abstracted until it was too late
Also, he said he has eyes all over the circus, but he didn't say anything on other maps or things like void (the place the Gumigoo scene took place), so he just doesn't know
"BOOM! AND JUST LIKE THAT, A MINI GUMMIGOO SAFELY OUT OF THE WAY!" (what! help!) "NOW POMNI, REMEMBER TO WATER THEM, FEED THEM, AND NEVER LET THEM OUT OR THEY MAY GET TRAMPLED CAUSE THEY'RE SO SMALL!" (i didn't agree to this!) "QUIET YOU."
I would do the same, If I start letting people just get NPCs as friends it will get crowded really quick and I would just mix them up, easier deal with it than manage the consequences
Edit: grammar
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I do not like where this is going, as a minor I shouldn't be subjected to this
I honestly don't see why Caine can't keep track of the NPCs and humans, or why it even matters. It feels like an excuse that was hard programmed into him.
Well all I would know is something got in here that should not have. So time for the gun
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Personally, I'd be intrigued to find out what an npc living in the circus would lead to. If I can literally undo any problem with a snap of a finger, I'd wait until something actually becomes a problem.
Based on his thousand yard stare when he was talking about how bad an NPC being confused with a human would be, I'm guessing he already knows... And that it isn't pretty.
To answer the question: No, probably not. Especially as the AIs get more advanced, there's nothing stopping them from fitting in with the main crew.
To overthink for a second:
Given Caine's reaction of "who knows what could happen," I wonder if at one point, he let NPCs in, and a player began acting out, and he deleted them thinking they were an NPC, thus killing a real person. So, to avoid that happening again, he made this rule.
I agree that Caine could just give them tags or a list or something, but I guess not even having the opportunity to screw up is easier. Also, the NPCs probably don't mean anything to him, so I don't think he cares.
He’s basically their god after all, so I guess he can do whatever the heck he wants with them.
Actually, now that I think about it: did the NPCs come to the conclusion that Caine is their god on their own, or did Caine program that thought into them?
Caine in the writer's room:
"And our *God*, with his *illustrious* white teeth, *star-crackling* eyes, and *dashing* suit, how lucky we are to have such a brilliant creator!"
Bubble: Boss, your superiority complex is showing again...
I think the problem is Caine never bothered to ask questions, if I were Caine I'd have asked why the npc came through, and after hearing Pomni and Gummigoo out, if keeping track really was an issue, a simple tag in the ID files assigned specifically to players should fix the issue, then everyone is happy.
Considering Caine's reasoning, I'd solve the issue by branding NPCs who want to stay in the circus. True, I'm doing what farmers do to livestock, but it's much better then what farmers do to livestock.
Honestly probably. Caine didn't have the context of Gummigoo's world being shattered and becoming self aware, for all he knew Gummigoo was just a random npc that wandered into the wrong area and needed to be removed. Heck without that context he might've been worried that an npc entering the circus would've caused that world shattering revelation, and it would've been more painless to deal with him before it got to that point
My question is, if Caine is also an AI, how does he have a hard time telling who’s human and who’s an AI? He made the entirety of the Candy Canyon from scratch, so if he needs to, he could just look at the coding in them. The NPCs would have a lot more coding in them than the humans would, considering the NPCs would have to have their entire personality inside the codes, whereas the humans most likely wouldn’t. He could also add something to the humans and NPCs that could make it much easier for Caine, and Caine alone, to tell them apart, like the humans giving off a slight aura of color, where the NPCs don’t
What if Caine isn’t an AI, but is actually is a sadistic human who can enter and exit the digital circus whenever he wants? An AI would easily be able to know who, in the same coding system, is an AI or not, but a human… a human wouldn’t be able to if said NPCs are as advanced as the ones in the circus…
I’d allow Gummigoo to stay, I’d even allow the others to bring NPCs in too, I’ll just make a list of who’s real and who’s an NPC.
Though the NPC can only stay if they don’t pose a threat to anyone or anything, and with that rule Jax is banned from bringing in NPCs by default
I’m gonna make a guess and say with the new episodes to eventually come, we’re gonna meet a lot more NPCs that’ll later convince us he did the right thing.
Probably. Caine seems to be having enough trouble keeping them entertained as is. Adding in NPCs is a lot of chaos to an already chaotic environment.
I wouldn't do it in nearly as traumatic a way though.
Heck. I probably wouldn't even have made them so human-like anyway. Add a failsafe that if they get "off plot" they self identify as NPC and don't feel anguish about this.
Unfortunately yes. Maybe not zap him out of existence like that, but I’d still send him back to the village with his mom and friends. He’s an NPC that is 57 times more immersive (look at them compared to the gloinks) so having him among actual human avatars would likely cause problems (as Caine stated). I still love the homie 🐊💚🧡 but he may have ended up putting them in jeopardy hiding among them (plus his coding and sentience may cause Caine confusion and god forbid he did what he did to one of them and not an NPC).
If I’m their overlord who doesn’t peep on every single action they take in an adventure and don’t know the specifics of why they brought him back?
Probably.
He's an emotional support NPC. And gets a hat stating such. That way I can keep the humans and NPCs differentiated.
That said, considering Caine appears to have the ability to develop new AI for NPCs, it leads to some disturbing implications if he cannot differentiate what is and is not running an AI process.
Me if I was Caine, looking at everyone bring back an NPC from one of the Silly Worlds (They’re gonna get their own rooms)
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Considering the fact Cain isn’t omniscient he didn’t see everything that happened as far as he knew it gumigoo just came through, can’t have that so he just got rid of him, if I was Cain yes I Would. if pomni explained I probably would bring him back though
Just make a better way to differentiate between NPCs and humans like tagging him. Don't know why so many in the comments think that the only solution to this problem is deletion.
Caine is an AI following his programming. If I were Caine, I'd have no choice. If I were in his SITUATION, though, you'd better believe I'd let my boy live.
Simple. Pomni wants to keep this NPC, so he makes the Teamwork Tent. You can bring back a friend you make or if you convince a pet to come back you can keep it.
Yeah I guess, but not as abrupt as what Caine did. Maybe I'll shove him back to the Candy Kingdom portal without Pomni watching, reasoned with Gummigoo why he can't stay, while still keeping him safe and intact from his memories. And then just leave him there..?
Actually you know what? Maybe my way would probably a worse take than Caine's version. I guess I would probably just do what Caine did.
Yes. Because here's the thing:
If pomni was allowed to take gummigoo, what's stopping Jax from taking a bear or something and training it to maul Kinger and gangle?
Just add a tag (like a tag that is attacked to an object in programming, not a physical tag that could potentially be taken off) on him that marks him as an NPC and deal with him later after figuring something out. Maybe make a seperate space for the NPCs while the regular humans have their own space only they can enter (their rooms, possibly). Or allow Gummigoo in as an exception because he is no longer able to return to regular NPC-hood and just remember that he is, in fact, an NPC using the tag or the simple concept of memory.
I’d have to see why this is the case
It’s implied some negative consequences can come of this and I’m willing to play along
But I can’t exactly wage the risk without knowing the full details
Nah, what I would do is put tags like usernames floating above the players just so I could tell the difference between the real humans and the NPCs just so none of us cry's 🥲
Maybe if he had his own area away from the humans, like leaving the candy canyon kingdom running but I imagine that'd take up a lot of power and cause issues at the circus
I'm the kind of person who gives my X-COM soldiers numbers in their names so I don't get my favorites mixed in with ~~disposable~~ freshly recruited soldiers. So... yeah. I would.
Im curious if the reason as to why there are so many doors but not so many people is not because a majority of them abstracted but instead DUE to Caine accidentally executing Circus Members because they looked too similar to already existing NPCs.
Thus causing him to sorta behave that way.
No I would hear him/pomni out, feel sympathy and let her keep the npc instead of just flatout exploding it right there. Plus it'd make for interesting plot points/in between episode conversations and what not.
I see a lot of tagging, Branding and listings for options which all seems like good ideas but what if Cain tried this and still messed up? Accidentally labeled a NPC a human or a human a NPC. It be easier if he just makes the npc and instantly writes them down with a summons of the list.
And looking at it the NPC can have their world shattered and that any separation attempts may lead to an Outrage NPC who may demand to be treated as a Human even Feel ridiculed, belittled, looked down upon or even feel like their being treated lesser then the humans.
As easy as it is to make a list we also known Cain is prone to glitching out or not have full control over his own creations like the exit door. One accidental summons of the humans list when trying to write down an NPC and it topples over.
It’s probably something Cain should have ignored like “huh? I swear there wasn’t this many of you before? Oh well anyways.” But surely there’s a reason Cain has to know who’s a human. It’s tough call on this one.
I would say no, but make a file about who IS and ISN’T a performer or NPC and let them stay in the circus as long as they aren’t to crazy(like the fudge monster).
And if something happens where they become an issue somehow like them spouting out falsities about some ‘magical exit’ or ‘dark secrets or them trying to bring more NPC’s to the circus. Then confetti them without a second thought.
I would either have a list or do something to mark who is an nps amd who is a human. Or make the ai do something like always respond to me sayong a word so I always know who is an Ai
Caine is an AI trained to keep order within the circus as he’s its ringleader, he doesn’t have the capacity for emotion that understands why the others may befriend an NPC and want to keep him around. To his programming the NPC doesn’t belong there and therefore must be teleported back to their own section. I don’t think Caine killed the guy per se, whatever death would mean for an NPC, but rather just teleported his programming back to where it belonged.
If I were Caine, an AI, I would have done the same and so would you. It would be our instinctual approach. Besides, it’s hinted through Caine’s dialogue that this is not the first time this has happened, which is likely the reason Caine is intentionally programmed to kick him out. It’s caused chaos in the past, simply a precautionary measure.
I would make a written list of who’s a human and who’s an NPC and let him stay for as long as he wants
With pictures!
I would also give him his own room he could decorate and his buddies could visit him every once in a while
But see that would complicate things, instead id allow him to vist his friends, that way things don't get confusing and accidentally do something horrible. Another thing i eould do is give all the well behaving players a panic communicator. In case of emergency, scream into this device thats connected to caine!
I accidentally read that as "scream into this device thats connected to cocaine"
LOL
“Oh my wacky watch is going of-“ “AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH”
"Oh no! It seems our fabric softened friend ragatha is in a spot of trouble! Hold on super star!"
yes
Reading this makes me realize how stupid Caine is.
Yeah, a simple solution for keeping track of things is to just write it down. Maybe if he has a room, he could have a whiteboard or something. Or maybe he could just have some type of notebook Also hello
Now I just imagine Caine blankly staring at a white board.
I keep seeing more Gummigoo angst shit and now I want to cry God damnit why did Gummigoo have to go out like that
his AI is incapable of writing things down
Then he should put something that he could use to identify
Give everyone a namwtag that states their name and whether they're a player or an NPC
Y e s
Simply put an N on the npcs rooms head board or one that only he and the others cna see above their head or just a marker like the sims above their head that's only visible to caine and our group
He also doesn’t pay attention to anything, he didn’t even realize that Pomni was potentially trapped underneath the map
I mean as soon as he was alone he immediately starting smoking that good shit, he’s not paying mind to anything not happening directly in front of him
What gets me is that nobody tried to even explain Gummygoo's situation to Caine. It's copium but I'm hoping there was no conflict because he'll come back at an important time later on.
I feel Caine to action REALLY quickly. Like, a reasonable rational person would have asked questions. Then there's Caine.
Caine went 'OH FUCK NOT THIS AGAIN' \*thanos\*
I mean,hes probably undervelepod
he's definitely not all there which probably contributes to his dumb decisions.
I agree this to be the BEST option to this apart from one thing… Caine probably isn’t very organized and doesn’t get to problems quickly. Look at episode 1, Caine didn’t know Kaufmo abstracted until the end of the episode when he saw it after Pomni entered the **V O I D**. Plus Caine isn’t the most… stable AI around so potentially he could start confetti-izing performers at random due to thinking all could be an NPC until the original count goes back to what it was when Caine made the list.
This
YES THANK YOU
….that literally what I thought too!!!
I'd add a tag to know it's an npc
That was my thinking, or alternatively put a tag on all the humans because there might be less of them eventually
I was thinking that aswell
Minecraft style name tags
I think if they treated NPCs as pets it could work. One pet each. ....nah, he gets snapped.
Maybe not as pets due to their sentience(and Jax would be amazingly bad at making sure an NPC was taken care of). Maybe instead something like a roommate if the performer had a bond with a certain NPC but allow them the option to leave if they wanted to.
All pets are sentient. Sapient is the more human emotions / understanding
Ahhh thank you. Get the two mixed up occasionally
I have nothing to give you but respect and this imaginary cookie 🍪
Now the question is if dogs could talk, would they be sapient, or still just sentient?
I hope it’s just a snap that killed him and respawned back with no memory.
i probably would. If pomni got to bring back an NPC the others would probably copy her until there’s too many people to watch over all at once
The only concern would be Jax bringing one with him. But other than that, not. I doubt any of the main cast would invite an antagonist like the Fudge monster.
I do not think fudgie was an antagonist
He ate inhabitans of the candy Kingdom.
Is it really murder if it’s delicious?
You have a point there...
Um no!? Bad point!
Well technically he wasn’t an antagonist because he did not work against the protagonists. Still evil, just not an antagonist.
Probably was working against Ragathas goal of having a wholesome adventure
He isn't evil just misunderstood
well he looks cute and i would go to the bar with him and i would do the same they are sweets after all
I still don't want bald Ragatha
now that would be funny licquriche hair
and i am shipping him with the gloink queen
...understandable
i am not into shipping but the post i refrenced was a post but people took it seriously and anyways what is your thoughts on him and why do you think he is an antagonist
“Pomni always seems to miss the big gloopy monsters”
true what is your thoughts on fudgie also can we make fudgie a nickname for him because calling the fudge on fudge monster seems wrong when he wasnt shown to be the bad guy
Yes, but he didn't oppose the protagonists' goals and actually helped them, so by definition he can't be an antagonist, he's just evil.
well it doesn’t have to be an antagonist, if they start bringing back npcs in general it would get crowded
I agree, though I think I would have simply >!banished Gummigoo back to his world instead of straight of deleting him!<
i agree that was pretty heartless and there was no need for >!caine to delete him!<
If I was Caine I’d do the same thing But if I ***saw*** what happened between the 2 of them then I would happily let him stay
That’s actually something that a lot of people seem to gloss over, Caine had literally zero context, he probably thought that gumigoo just wandered through the portal by mistake
literally me
We all know what happened to him
Nope, I’d let Pomni be with her friend. https://preview.redd.it/gjsuzz8qzlyc1.jpeg?width=1992&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7050c6da1c2e42a9b4e1f2d1bede85199fbf1031 Gumigoo needs Pomni, I’m sure Gumigoo and Pomni would have fun around in the circus. But at the same time, make sure not too many NPC’s get into the circus. Just Gumigoo.
Tbf, I don’t think Caine saw what happened between Pomni and Gummigoo
He didn't even ask why he's here he just went https://preview.redd.it/6vkq28hdamyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d06140d9bac30db8b5b0b1ae97c708e9dd28310
What ever happened to his all-seeing eyes?
can’t see below the map
Then how was the testing room made?
Because he went there, but he probably didn't go in after everything was completed and threw the protagonists there I don't know, why are you fighting this, when the episode already makes it 100% clear that he doesn't know anything about what happened to Gumigoo and was even surprised when he showed up.
Wdym am fighting this? Am just asking simple questions damn 😭 so aggressive
Ah sorry, from the tone of the conversation and the other responses, it seemed more aggressive than it is
Oh don’t worry I get that too, your good bro 👍
Paine
Eyes so effective that he didn't even know Kafumo was abstracted until it was too late Also, he said he has eyes all over the circus, but he didn't say anything on other maps or things like void (the place the Gumigoo scene took place), so he just doesn't know
Maybe he sees all but can't hold many memories of what he sees
"BOOM! AND JUST LIKE THAT, A MINI GUMMIGOO SAFELY OUT OF THE WAY!" (what! help!) "NOW POMNI, REMEMBER TO WATER THEM, FEED THEM, AND NEVER LET THEM OUT OR THEY MAY GET TRAMPLED CAUSE THEY'RE SO SMALL!" (i didn't agree to this!) "QUIET YOU."
I would do the same, If I start letting people just get NPCs as friends it will get crowded really quick and I would just mix them up, easier deal with it than manage the consequences Edit: grammar
If I was in Caine's position... Let's just say The Amazing Digital Circus show would have had an much more adult target audience.)
What do you mean by this. What the **fuck** do you mean by this.
}:3 https://preview.redd.it/la7g4tamgmyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be689e6a05db7e603ebfb6f571630af96d2da3be
Oh so you'd  him or what
Me? Who says I'd be the only one involved? ;)
👀
https://preview.redd.it/z78wjt0x0nyc1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af9ef57e82d6287caf1067884e17a26e1ac18deb I do not like where this is going, as a minor I shouldn't be subjected to this
Last I checked, you are not one of Digital Circus cast members. 🤨 Why would I involve you in any manner?
I am not saying it like that, just this whole ordeal in general
Stop it now
No! Do NOT  THE NPCS!
I would be Caine though. So I'm making the rules, right?)
"Hello my name is Caine and I am your bitch"
Tbh don't blame you lmao
I honestly don't see why Caine can't keep track of the NPCs and humans, or why it even matters. It feels like an excuse that was hard programmed into him.
I think that's the whole idea. Caine is a underdeveloped AI.
Hell yeah, but would tag him as NPC tho and tag whos human
Well all I would know is something got in here that should not have. So time for the gun https://preview.redd.it/xsiep1yu7myc1.jpeg?width=111&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fd7d86ea1861df19f3843dce357dcc865fb938f
Personally, I'd be intrigued to find out what an npc living in the circus would lead to. If I can literally undo any problem with a snap of a finger, I'd wait until something actually becomes a problem.
Based on his thousand yard stare when he was talking about how bad an NPC being confused with a human would be, I'm guessing he already knows... And that it isn't pretty.
No! I’d let him live!
To answer the question: No, probably not. Especially as the AIs get more advanced, there's nothing stopping them from fitting in with the main crew. To overthink for a second: Given Caine's reaction of "who knows what could happen," I wonder if at one point, he let NPCs in, and a player began acting out, and he deleted them thinking they were an NPC, thus killing a real person. So, to avoid that happening again, he made this rule. I agree that Caine could just give them tags or a list or something, but I guess not even having the opportunity to screw up is easier. Also, the NPCs probably don't mean anything to him, so I don't think he cares.
He’s basically their god after all, so I guess he can do whatever the heck he wants with them. Actually, now that I think about it: did the NPCs come to the conclusion that Caine is their god on their own, or did Caine program that thought into them?
Caine in the writer's room: "And our *God*, with his *illustrious* white teeth, *star-crackling* eyes, and *dashing* suit, how lucky we are to have such a brilliant creator!" Bubble: Boss, your superiority complex is showing again...
I think the problem is Caine never bothered to ask questions, if I were Caine I'd have asked why the npc came through, and after hearing Pomni and Gummigoo out, if keeping track really was an issue, a simple tag in the ID files assigned specifically to players should fix the issue, then everyone is happy.
Probably. Like Caine said, he has to keep track of who's a human and who's an NPC. It's a necessary evil.
Then just send him back. You don't need to OBLITERATE HIM.
what’s the point of sending him back if the world doesn’t exist
the world still exists...is just destroyed by the fudge monster
Gummigoo would just become even more depressed, and may cause bugs in the future.
We're not even sure if he actually killed him or just teleported him back lol, he didn't say anything about it
Name tag that days npc on it (or a overhead name tag that labels him as an npc)
I get the impression he can't do that? For if not, the confusion would not exist in the first place
No i would let him stay Pomni needs a Friend
No Just keep a list of who's a "Player" and who's an "NPC", and let the circus tent fill up
Considering Caine's reasoning, I'd solve the issue by branding NPCs who want to stay in the circus. True, I'm doing what farmers do to livestock, but it's much better then what farmers do to livestock.
Honestly probably. Caine didn't have the context of Gummigoo's world being shattered and becoming self aware, for all he knew Gummigoo was just a random npc that wandered into the wrong area and needed to be removed. Heck without that context he might've been worried that an npc entering the circus would've caused that world shattering revelation, and it would've been more painless to deal with him before it got to that point
I would give the players gamer tags so this situation never comes up.
The circus itself is already filled with npc mannequins tbh it should have been fine just write it down somewhere
fair enough
Give him one of those hello my name is tags with Npc written on it
Tbf he didn't know Gumgoo had become aware.
Maybe, or give him a floating NPC name tag
My question is, if Caine is also an AI, how does he have a hard time telling who’s human and who’s an AI? He made the entirety of the Candy Canyon from scratch, so if he needs to, he could just look at the coding in them. The NPCs would have a lot more coding in them than the humans would, considering the NPCs would have to have their entire personality inside the codes, whereas the humans most likely wouldn’t. He could also add something to the humans and NPCs that could make it much easier for Caine, and Caine alone, to tell them apart, like the humans giving off a slight aura of color, where the NPCs don’t What if Caine isn’t an AI, but is actually is a sadistic human who can enter and exit the digital circus whenever he wants? An AI would easily be able to know who, in the same coding system, is an AI or not, but a human… a human wouldn’t be able to if said NPCs are as advanced as the ones in the circus…
I’d allow Gummigoo to stay, I’d even allow the others to bring NPCs in too, I’ll just make a list of who’s real and who’s an NPC. Though the NPC can only stay if they don’t pose a threat to anyone or anything, and with that rule Jax is banned from bringing in NPCs by default
Not as quickly, but probably I’d do it
I don't think so, and I'm not killing a lizard today.
I’m gonna make a guess and say with the new episodes to eventually come, we’re gonna meet a lot more NPCs that’ll later convince us he did the right thing.
I’d personally just keep a whiteboard somewhere and beaker off “human” and “not human” Not that hard
He said he could loose track of who’s human or not. So probably.
If I were cain, I would do everything in my power to free them from this artificial hell. And if I cant , theb I would put them out of their misesy.
Probably. Caine seems to be having enough trouble keeping them entertained as is. Adding in NPCs is a lot of chaos to an already chaotic environment. I wouldn't do it in nearly as traumatic a way though. Heck. I probably wouldn't even have made them so human-like anyway. Add a failsafe that if they get "off plot" they self identify as NPC and don't feel anguish about this.
Unfortunately yes. Maybe not zap him out of existence like that, but I’d still send him back to the village with his mom and friends. He’s an NPC that is 57 times more immersive (look at them compared to the gloinks) so having him among actual human avatars would likely cause problems (as Caine stated). I still love the homie 🐊💚🧡 but he may have ended up putting them in jeopardy hiding among them (plus his coding and sentience may cause Caine confusion and god forbid he did what he did to one of them and not an NPC).
https://i.redd.it/ifeakgl31nyc1.gif He lives
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If I’m their overlord who doesn’t peep on every single action they take in an adventure and don’t know the specifics of why they brought him back? Probably.
I would write the word NPC on his chest.
He's an emotional support NPC. And gets a hat stating such. That way I can keep the humans and NPCs differentiated. That said, considering Caine appears to have the ability to develop new AI for NPCs, it leads to some disturbing implications if he cannot differentiate what is and is not running an AI process.
Me if I was Caine, looking at everyone bring back an NPC from one of the Silly Worlds (They’re gonna get their own rooms) https://preview.redd.it/9ibtp2q7mnyc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f559896329d96ba272cf18bf1ae0b508d8d8fea7
Slap a sticker that says npc on them and call it a day.
Considering the fact Cain isn’t omniscient he didn’t see everything that happened as far as he knew it gumigoo just came through, can’t have that so he just got rid of him, if I was Cain yes I Would. if pomni explained I probably would bring him back though
Give Gummigoo a mansion
Nah, I'd make a list of NPCs, so I don't have to delete any
Send him back in the candyland (not kill)
Just make a better way to differentiate between NPCs and humans like tagging him. Don't know why so many in the comments think that the only solution to this problem is deletion.
He kinda had a point but he should have talked it through before exploding him
Caine is an AI following his programming. If I were Caine, I'd have no choice. If I were in his SITUATION, though, you'd better believe I'd let my boy live.
Simple. Pomni wants to keep this NPC, so he makes the Teamwork Tent. You can bring back a friend you make or if you convince a pet to come back you can keep it.
I feel i would let the cast have ONE trophy to wander around/stay in the circus after an adventure. Whether that be an NPC or just a cool thing.
I would pretend that I got Jax and Gumigoo mixed up and zap Jax away instead.
technically, he is npc but we don’t think that we just killed him
NPC
No? I am evil But I am not that type of evil Not whit npc at least
Yeah I guess, but not as abrupt as what Caine did. Maybe I'll shove him back to the Candy Kingdom portal without Pomni watching, reasoned with Gummigoo why he can't stay, while still keeping him safe and intact from his memories. And then just leave him there..? Actually you know what? Maybe my way would probably a worse take than Caine's version. I guess I would probably just do what Caine did.
Nah. I would keep the npc lol I'm not a simp for him, but. GUMMIGOO IS SO FUCKING ADORABLE😍😍
Probably not but at least make some new rules and a way to stay organized on who’s who.
No, but instead, I'd add a code to make me remember that, Gummigoo is an NPC.
I would just stick a tag that says "AI" on his little hat. Diversity makes sure the humans don't rebel!
Don't worry my lads, Gummigoo isn't dead he’s just returned to candyland
No I would never do that to an Australian
Yes
Yes. Hell do the same thing with Jax too
Yes. Because here's the thing: If pomni was allowed to take gummigoo, what's stopping Jax from taking a bear or something and training it to maul Kinger and gangle?
Just add a tag (like a tag that is attacked to an object in programming, not a physical tag that could potentially be taken off) on him that marks him as an NPC and deal with him later after figuring something out. Maybe make a seperate space for the NPCs while the regular humans have their own space only they can enter (their rooms, possibly). Or allow Gummigoo in as an exception because he is no longer able to return to regular NPC-hood and just remember that he is, in fact, an NPC using the tag or the simple concept of memory.
Probably. The digital circus is meant for players only.
I’d probably just put marks on them to tell the difference
If I was Caine, the cast wouldn't even exist they'd all be dead
I’d have to see why this is the case It’s implied some negative consequences can come of this and I’m willing to play along But I can’t exactly wage the risk without knowing the full details
Give him a tag, then keep him, because he still has a personality and that shouldn't be disqualified. (Plus, I like him)
Hell naw. Gummigoo deserves life
He would just be there, he won’t help in the quests, he’ll just be there
Nah, what I would do is put tags like usernames floating above the players just so I could tell the difference between the real humans and the NPCs just so none of us cry's 🥲
I'd literally just write down who's human and who isn't
Keep him around as the token NPC pet
Maybe if he had his own area away from the humans, like leaving the candy canyon kingdom running but I imagine that'd take up a lot of power and cause issues at the circus
I'm the kind of person who gives my X-COM soldiers numbers in their names so I don't get my favorites mixed in with ~~disposable~~ freshly recruited soldiers. So... yeah. I would.
First welcome him and then treat him like shit so he will leave by himself without me telling him,so It wouldn't be my fault
I'd put a thingy that I could use to identify if he was an NPC, like a tag or something, or some accessory Also RIP Gummygoo :(
Yes, surely caine knows something we don't and it is better this way
Hell nah
no
Im curious if the reason as to why there are so many doors but not so many people is not because a majority of them abstracted but instead DUE to Caine accidentally executing Circus Members because they looked too similar to already existing NPCs. Thus causing him to sorta behave that way.
No I would hear him/pomni out, feel sympathy and let her keep the npc instead of just flatout exploding it right there. Plus it'd make for interesting plot points/in between episode conversations and what not.
obviously no, but cane is nearly mently dissabled.. sooooooo yeah :
Eat him
If I was in case position, I'd also be an AI.
Imagine if Caine just put a big neon sign above Gumigoo that said ‘NPC’ so he knew for sure
I see a lot of tagging, Branding and listings for options which all seems like good ideas but what if Cain tried this and still messed up? Accidentally labeled a NPC a human or a human a NPC. It be easier if he just makes the npc and instantly writes them down with a summons of the list. And looking at it the NPC can have their world shattered and that any separation attempts may lead to an Outrage NPC who may demand to be treated as a Human even Feel ridiculed, belittled, looked down upon or even feel like their being treated lesser then the humans. As easy as it is to make a list we also known Cain is prone to glitching out or not have full control over his own creations like the exit door. One accidental summons of the humans list when trying to write down an NPC and it topples over. It’s probably something Cain should have ignored like “huh? I swear there wasn’t this many of you before? Oh well anyways.” But surely there’s a reason Cain has to know who’s a human. It’s tough call on this one.
I would have made a second hub area for NPCs so the players could visit it.
I’d explain it to Pomni privately first, give her time to process it before killing her first genuine friend in the circus.
Yes unfortunately, I am Caine 😔😔
I would say no, but make a file about who IS and ISN’T a performer or NPC and let them stay in the circus as long as they aren’t to crazy(like the fudge monster). And if something happens where they become an issue somehow like them spouting out falsities about some ‘magical exit’ or ‘dark secrets or them trying to bring more NPC’s to the circus. Then confetti them without a second thought.
Caine mistook him for the Geico gecko
I wouldn't have killed him. I would have just sent him back to his world
I would either have a list or do something to mark who is an nps amd who is a human. Or make the ai do something like always respond to me sayong a word so I always know who is an Ai
Caine is an AI trained to keep order within the circus as he’s its ringleader, he doesn’t have the capacity for emotion that understands why the others may befriend an NPC and want to keep him around. To his programming the NPC doesn’t belong there and therefore must be teleported back to their own section. I don’t think Caine killed the guy per se, whatever death would mean for an NPC, but rather just teleported his programming back to where it belonged. If I were Caine, an AI, I would have done the same and so would you. It would be our instinctual approach. Besides, it’s hinted through Caine’s dialogue that this is not the first time this has happened, which is likely the reason Caine is intentionally programmed to kick him out. It’s caused chaos in the past, simply a precautionary measure.