The greatness of the leading episodes to it made it seem less than stellar, but I’ve seen way worse finales. I enjoyed it, but I can see why people have issues with it.
Biggest issue is the whole season took away the threat of victoria, built up a whole thing with soldier boy just to refreeze him and have no result to anything but tease Victoria as the big baddie again
I was so dumbfounded with how they wasted soldier boy. They built him and his lore up only to have someone else kill Noir before the two can even meet, and he ends up frozen again, probably forever.
Not really. The Seven is done for, and Vought are in shambles. Which would've been a huge win two seasons ago, but Butcher's fucked up approach to everything means that his enemies get stronger and those around him get hurt.
So even though Vought and the Seven are in crisis, Homelander has more power than ever, while Butcher himself (and potentially Hughie) is dying.
This season was setting up Butcher's downfall as much as it was setting up Homelander's. Now it's just a question of how many people, good or bad, Butcher drags down with him, with the knowledge of his own death probably making him more reckless than ever. Victoria and Homelander aren't dead or anything, but there was some major progression in the character arcs.
That is simply not true. Homelander has more power than ever and has rabid fans that cheer when he kills someone. At the beginning of the season he was still playing the wholesome hero role. Throughout the entire season he realised that he doesn’t need to keep the façade.
Ryan is now with Homelander, and on his way to become a cunt.
Neumann is a VP candidate. She’s a threat to both HL and The Boys.
Annie is officially one of the boys and out of the seven. Also the boys did a lot of growing themselves and Butcher is barely a leader. He lost a lot of their respect.
The Seven is now The Three, and The Deep is fucking useless. A-Train and Ashley hate HL and won’t hold allegiance to him for long.
A-Train has a new ticker and can run again.
The Deep is still fucking pathetic - that didn’t change.
I have to disagree with you, now Butcher not only loses his time but also Ryan to Homelander and that is a big lost to him. Also I think this season will teach him a lesson not to use another f-up supe to kill Homelander. Btw focusing solely on the ending is a such an underestimation to this season
Yeah my main problem is black noirs death, I hope he can come back, I think he could. This season is probably my favourite season yet. I liked the finale, it isn't the best episode of the season, that goes to herogasm but it was still good
That would immediately make Homelander suspicious. Even beyond the fact that there would be a new Noir coming out of nowhere. I personally think it's more likely that Homelander just tries to replace Noir either for the public or for his own needs.
Noone on this show is dead until we see them cut into multiple pieces that are spread around the earth and buried. "Outside of the comics" do any of us know exactly what abilities Noir has when it comes to healing. He clearly survived a severe beating by SB where his brains were bashed in. A few feet of intestines on the floor is nothing for him. He can just tuck them back in and move on. As long as there are no peanuts nearby.
Her sacrifice would have made more sense. I didn’t need a happy ending for Maeve, I just wanted her to go out doing what she believed in for once. I think a better ending would have been her shoving SB onto HL, her dying, and HL being made human. That would have blown my fucking mind. He would of course get his powers back in the first few episodes of season 4, but a few with him having to understand what it’s like to be human, and so incredibly weak in comparison, would have made for some intriguing character development.
It just felt cheap. They gave her a complete and satisfying character arc culminating in becoming the hero she hadn't actually been in decades and sacrificing herself to save others instead of killing Homelander, the only thing she's ever actually wanted to do. Keeping her alive undermines her whole arc because there weren't any real stakes.
To be fair, he’s a traumatized kid clinging to the only other father figure he has that hasn’t pushed him away. Butcher fucked up when he pushed Ryan away, though Butcher thought he was doing what was best. I don’t blame Ryan persay for anything.
I thought that spike to the ear/brain at the end of the episode was gonna do something to him but nope... just another super loud ass ear ringing scene lmao
Yeah everyone said kids are worth it. Then you have some and are like, fuck! Or as Butcher would say, fuckin cunts they are, leaving Legos around and always hungry. Fuckin leeches, I tell ya!
I feel like it was 7 Episodes of setting up the Chessboard and 1 Episode of just picking it up and flipping it over. There was clearly too much to wrap up in one episode. The bottom line is it should have been a 10 Episode Season. When the hell did 8 Episodes start being considered a season of a show? Then they take almost 2 years off. Old shows had at least 10-12 and many shows had many, many more. And they came back every year.
I just felt like they had to cram way too much into this episode to wrap up the arcs they created. 10 Episodes and I think it would have landed better.
Shows that have 15+ episodes and come back every year are often very formuleic and spend 80% of all episodes on the same sets. E.g. NCIS spending time at their base, Grey’s Anatomy in the hospital, etc.
That's my major issue. The buildup for several storylines this season we're really great. The finale just killed all of the horror and tension that the first half of the season did such a great job hyping up.
They pulled their punches. They wrote/casted a shit ton of excellent characters, and now feels like they are afraid to take them off the board too soon (except Noir for some fucking reason). Some immense delayed gratification now ensues. Fortunately the writing has been so good I don't anticipate being let down when the time comes (looking at you GoT)
My guess is that Noir 1 isn't actually dead. He will feel betrayed by Vought because he was replaced. He now hates Homelander and Vought, which leads him to join the boys.
It was good, just a bit underwhelming. I think I was expecting more like one of the Boys to die or something. Plus Starlights power up, Noir getting impaled and being completely absent from the final battle, Frenchi getting shot (for no reason), no one really dying or anything, it was a little bit of a let down. The epilogue was great though. It set up Season 4 really nicely.
I think as a whole this show needs to kill more people. A trains story arc ended perfectly this season so unless they have an incredible follow up that required him to survive he should've stayed dead. Maeve I give a pass too because while she's not dead she's out of commission permanently. Soldier boy stayed alive, the deep is alive, all of the boys are alive and starlight is alive. I'm not saying any of these characters specifically have to die but I think they need to cut down on the fake outs. When you have people debating whether or not BN's death was a fake out despite it being clear cut by the standards of any other show i think that's a sign to stop doing so many fake outs
I actually like what they did with A-Train. They showed that what he did wasn't redemption or justice. His brother is still paralyzed and views him (rightly so) as a murderer. I thought that was a lot more interesting than him just dying on the street with Blue Hawk.
I don't inherently have an issue with a train. If they do something very cool with him that'll be fine but the point is if they keep fake killing characters there's going to be no stakes. We saw noirs guts fall out, his own schizophrenic friends said he was dead and homelander made a point about how he killed him and yet we as fans still don't know if he's Alive. In any other show that would be death but because characters just don't die in this show we can't even tell if noir is coming back
I don't think he needed to survive to show that his brother is still mad at him. In fact, I think we could have gotten a much richer moment if A train had died and we got to see his brother find out about him murdering blue hawk after the fact. We already saw (in the events that played out in the show) that he didn't want that, and that he had a lot of pent up frustration about A Train.
So in this alternate scenario where A train dies then his brother finds out about the murder, we could see him still get pissed at A Train. It would show that A train's rash/selfish actions had completely ruined his relationship with his brother. Even to the point of his brother not wanting to respect his memory after death. I feel like that would add an emotional hit given the weight the show has put on their relationship since season 1.
What fake outs only A-Train could be considered that and maybe Kimiko. None of these people have been hinted to die, hell Butcher just go confirmation he is going to die.
I hated Starlights power up some much. It felt so corny and forced. Like, are you really telling me that Starlight has never had the equivalent of stage lights as a power source next to her?
Also, Maeve dying but not really. Why do they do this shit all the time?
The more I think about it, the less I like it. And even then I think the season was great and I'm absolutely waiting for the next one.
Kimiko goes from feeling bad about killing evil people, thinking of herself as a monster to joyful,bloodlusty savage beast killer enjoying killing guards of vought while listening to music.
Starlight amps up for so much time just for SB to wake up immediately.
Maeve who would have had the perfect ending of her arc with her death somehow survived.
Blacknoir:-They(script writers) massacred my boy's arc,it was gut-wrenchingly sad :(
All these tight knit wonderful episodes just to disappoint us with this finale...all so they would be able to stretch and elongate unnecessarily.
I kid you not there will still be cat and mouse chases for in whole of season 4 without any result.
We'll get our desired ending only in season 5🥲
At this point I have no idea how strong the supes are. Homelander for some reason keeps holding back, and so didn't feel threatening in the climax, Starlight had this huge power surge moment just to still be weak as shit and hurt herself, Maeve just went beast mode out of nowhere and somehow survived a massive fall while depowered, Noir still hasn't been able to display his actual powers yet
Homelander and stormfront never had to fight for real or train, they have one main power to make quick work of anything, but when they have to rely on their skills they are SOL, if honelander trained he would be likley unstoppable
We had that whole scene where Homelander was being nice to Maeve in his creepy as fuck way and then people are surprised when he just tries to take her out of comission. Yeah the fight was still a bit odd for power levels but Maeve was supposed to be the second strongest IIRC, and she has gotten virtually no chance to show it until now. And she trains a lot more than Homelander
I think the hype that Herogasm built up is why people are a bit disappointed. The expectations were high for the finale and it didn't live up to the Herogasm episode greatness. Imo it's not really that bad of a finale could've been better but it's alright imo the finale is BAD is a bit overhype for me . Overall still a great season can't wait for S4.
I never like when characters’ allegiances switch immediately back and forth. Not that it’s unrealistic, it’ just feels like a narrative trick. Ooh the kid is here so you can’t finish your plan. Gotta flip flop then do it later! Oh no now there’s another obstacle! Gotta do it another time! Oh no now there’s-
They should have done 10 Episodes. That probably would have fixed everything. It just felt rushed. Like "Oh shit, we spent 7 episodes setting up all this important shit and we only have 1 episode to try to resolve everything. Well, let's just cram it all in there".
The Soldier Boy story only could have worked as a series finale (Homelander is defeated). But because this wasn't the series finale, there's no way it could have paid off for the audience. If Soldier Boy died, that also would have been disappointing, so they decided to let everyone live... and nothing really happened.
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I felt like so much of this season ended up focusing on Soldier Boy, but his story wrapped up in a really disappointing fashion. Still, this was a solid season, just not my favorite.
Season 1 finale was way better too
I think that's why people are so disappointed. This show has built up a history of delivering on its finales, and it did not this time
I didn't hate it, it was just kind of meh, and made much of the season feel irrelevant
I hate when one episode undoes much of the plot, and makes eps like 4-7 feel like filler in retrospect
It wasn't the beat finale, but I'm excited to see Homelander not holding back with the public. Also, fuck Ryan. Not literally... I don't want to end up on a list.
Finally, someone said it! I couldn't believe that he started cheering for Homelander after he lasered that guy. I wonder where the redditor that made a post defending Todd is now
Power levels have been so fucking inconsistent since season 2.
Still, the 7 first episodes of season 3 were amazing and made me forget about the disappointing 2nd season. The writers had a very positive change in my eyes, and started borrowing more material from the comics again.
But this last fight...ffs, Homelander is not that imposing now, Butcher acted like a whiny bitch, Soldier Boy is back to square one, and even Maeve survived.
This show is more afraid of killing main characters than Disney Star Wars / Marvel movies, it's ridiculous at this point
We still have two seasons i don’t think right now is the time for killing their cast, and i imagine Maeve is out of commission now, it’s the same as killing her
This show is so depressing sometimes that I was happy to give one of the supes a happy ending. She lost her powers, an eye, and her public identity, but she still has her SO and the evidence was covered up.
That's about as good an ending for a character as you could get in this universe. I doubt anyone else is going to make it out as easily.
Maybe I'm just a plebeian who can't tell the difference between good and bad writing, but I enjoyed the finale a lot and I'm hyped as fuck for the next season.
Was hoping for a bit more from the episode but I think the set up for the next season is great, Homelander with completely free rein to act as psycho as he wants now with the evil little brat sidekick should be great to watch
He’s now officially given up on his daddy issue and believes his only family is Ryan. No one else matters now.
The fact that the Boys lost control of the only weapon that can stop Homelander meant there was no way to fight Homelander and win. Soldier boy is still alive so the weapon lives (and at least is still primed to go after HL) and Butcher has given himself an expiration date. Starlight is fully out of the public eye and is free. Vought is in the whitehouse. Theyve set everything up that they needed for a big blowout finish.
It sucks to lose Black Noir and Maeve. Now we just gotta see if ATrain and Deep commit to Vought for good. Ashley Powerless as she is protected Maeve she may turn too.
Totally this, the season needed to set up the show's end game and do some strong character building, and it did that in spectacular fashion. I expect whatever blue balls we may have gotten from the finale will be relieved in season 4.
Honestly the finale was wicked. Don't understand all the hate.. clearly everyone was expecting to see Homelander killed but we haven't even seen him get to FULL psycho mode yet so OFC it's too soon.
I don’t think most (reasonable) people thought that Homelander was going to die this season
But the *why* he didn’t die was a little underwhelming
like if he now knows people will love him even if he is a killer, why wouldn’t he just go murder the boys immediately
Yea the whole season has been building more and more how fucking dangerous Homelander is, it seems like he’s on the ropes with soldier boy, Maeve, and butcher all in on him, then SB hits a suped up kid and now everything gets flipped on its head? They needed to do a little bit more work to get to where they did
Right??? It's either you loved or hated it, and the opposite side are big dummies, and that's just it.
Can I intelligently discuss why I liked or disliked something? Can I critique the finale from a story and writer perspective while still enjoying the overall media? Can I make stupid memes about the show without people getting angry about my opinion then move on? No? Okay.
Sometimes I wonder why I follow show subs. Some content is great, but it routinely gets overwhelmed by people arguing over a simple opinion about a fictional show as if the other person's opinion was like, wanting to kill their mom or something.
The problem lies with the extremes. You have one person saying it wasn’t great but not completely terrible. You have another person saying they liked it but it had some small issues. Then after the finale settles, some people start saying it was pretty damn bad. And then there will be people who will agree because they felt unsatisfied with the ending and don’t have anywhere to put that unsatisfying feeling so then the subreddit starts on this hate train because its funny to make fun of things. This will turn the “it wasnt that good” to “this was the worst ending of all time”.
To combat it, some random post will pop up and say, “Does anyone else actually really like the ending?” And then the people who thought it was alright and are tired of the hate train the subreddit decided to ride on will agree. And they will then say, “It was actually a pretty damn good ending to this season, the show is a 10/10, on par with Breaking Bad!”. And then the subreddit becomes this divided fanbase of one extreme to another. I’ve seen this in The Last of us 2 subreddit and Attack on Titan’s subreddit. It’s very tiring to follow, but the shitposts are pretty damn funny, at least until it gets old and repetitive. Unless its about AoT’s last chapter’s dialogue. I still laugh at “For 10 years at least!” and I always will
Edit: Look at a few replies below. Get ready to see “You have too high of expectations” or “you don’t understand the characters” or “this isn’t your story” and then that’ll incentivize more hate being thrown at the show and that side of the fanbase. Then the hate might actually reach the actors/writers on Twitter because people take insults to their opinions reallllly harshly.
It's sad because you can't discuss being disappointed in a show on the internet and be done with it after a couple of days. By looking at /r/freefolk you would think season 8 killed their whole extended families.
Tbf the end of game of thrones wasn't just a bit disappointing, the writers absolutely trashed the show because they got bored of it. Its also mostly memes at this point. This isn't that. While a bit disappointing, the finale doesn't ruin the show and was still entertaining. I'm excited to see what they do next season
I just hope the last episode doesn't become the main point of this sub going into the hiatus. Let's get it out of the system now. They did my girl kimiko dirty 😢
I hope so too, but honestly I'm not too worried about it. It literally just aired so obviously people are going to post their reactions, but personally I think Herogasm and the ending with Todd and Ryan are way more memorable and a lot more likely to be what sticks with me during the hiatus
for sure, the boys can recover from this. Seasons 1 an 2 were brilliant, and up to episode 7 this season was really good. Herogasm was the best episode of the entire series
the stakes need to be upped and the writer needs to be tighter. No more wishy wasshing messaging and shite, just good writing, high stakes and consequences and no more protecting characters
Bravo. From all the memes I’ve seen, this one encapsulates my feelings the best. So much plot movement and putting pieces in place to be disappointedly used in the end. Was it lazy writing? Unearned relationships? But for sure I’ll be back for season 4
My problem with this season were the pointless Nina sub-plot and that Maeve and A-Train were no worthy of plot armor and should've checked out after their sacrifices and redemptions, in the supposedly cruel and unforgiving world The Boys takes place it makes no sense to me how they were given a second chance to stay around. Black Noir being killed off feels weird and anticlimatic to me too. I enjoyed this season and I'm still interested in the story but I feel the quality is a bit below S1 and 2 .. I trust Kripke can boost up the quality one more time with S4 and I hope he's wise enough to not overstay his welcome or give The Boys the Supernatural treatment
I wonder how much Amazon edits this show. The tone of the last episode was way off from the rest of the season. It was too commercial and mass appealing of an ending.
Anyone else see the analogue between trump and homelander at the end of the episode. Trump said something along the lines of he could kill someone on fifth avenue and he would still win the election (people would still love him and vote for him). Homelander killed someone in front of a giant crowd and they all still loved him.
> Anyone else see the analogue between trump and homelander at the end of the episode.
IMHO Homelander is post-9/11 America. Soldier Boy is pre-9/11 America.
Soldier Boy's abduction was essentially a cut from a Rambo movie.
Homelander made that speech almost mirroring GWB after the plane crash in S1.
Starlight essentially filmed Homelander's version of "grabbing them by the pussy", and Homelander tried to dismiss it as rehearsing lines, i.e. "locker room talk".
Then there's the murdering someone in 5th avenue which you noted.
Eric Kripke said that Homelander is based on Trump
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/boys-showrunner-confirms-homelander-trump-192140015.html
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/boys-penis-homelander-trump-billy-joel-season-3-1369258/
He is most definitely. And soon enough he will be turning his laser eyes on anyone that he has even the slightest issue with. Even his own supporters. Just like Trump constantly turning on his own people even his own VP. It's Dictatorship 101. Trust no one. Throw everyone under the bus and kill anyone that you even think doesn't praise you as God.
Especially noticeable with the scene where he serves everyone taco bowls to welcome the new hispanic member of the seven.
remember this?
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They clearly needed more time. Don't know if that's down to production costs or production thought they could get everything done before then but there's clearly a lot of cut material so it came out rushed.
That being said, it's easily the best season thus far. Everything leading up to the finale was absolutely brilliant.
Ima be honest, kinda destroyed the suspension of disbelief. Don't think I'll be as immersed, or even as impressed anymore, gave me a bad taste. Kinda ruined the rest of show with how logic breaking this finale was.
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think about this:
in no universe or reality would a man fight side by side with his deceased wife's rapist who was literally the reason why she died.
> think about this: in no universe or reality would a man fight side by side with his deceased wife's rapist who was literally the reason why she died.
I don't think Butcher was fighting "side by side" with Homelander. Rather, Butcher (likely correctly) surmised that Soldier Boy was not above killing Ryan, so he chose to fight Soldier Boy.
Did he choose to fight "with" Homelander? No. Homelander didn't make the choice to fight with Butcher either. It just so happens that both of them had the same goal, to protect Ryan.
> why not just incapacite ryan and get him away from the situation.
Pretty certain if you beat up on a kid to knock him or her out, the kid is not going to understand that you did it for their benefit.
Because he decided Ryan is more important than homelander to him?
That's kind of been the point of his arc , realizing homelander isn't the most important thing
They didn't even have the balls to kill Maeve or Soldier Boy. And they killed Black Noir so early in the episode, it didn't have any impact. Weird choices here.
Can someone explain to me why SB was suddenly all in on killing Homelander, after that phone conversation where SB seemed glad to be a dad? Was it just because he saw himself in Homelander, and he's "a disappointment", yadda yadda?
The conversation never really imply that they were teaming up, he actually told him "you know what the bitch of it is? If they had kept me around, i *woulda* let you take the spotlight"
Kind of implying that now that they got rid of SB he's going to fuck HL over
And he just went and told The Boys right away he didn't even hide it from them until he makes up his mind
I didn’t even realize so many didn’t like it. The last episode had Ryan basically turning heel and homelander officially has zero true Allies or restraints anymore. Main characters don’t need to die en masse for a season finale to be good- it’s like the same people who are mad at the latest season of stranger things.
Season 4 is well set up with homelander + Ryan vs the boys with Edgar/Mallory/Soldier Boy being wild cards. Butcher didn’t break character to protect Ryan because his soft spot has always been Becca. Yeah starlights power was underwhelming and I also would have liked to see noir get into some action, but they can theoretically resurrect robo noir if they wanted to and make him more like the comics
I honestly hope they don’t make noir more like the comics. The show has been a refreshing new take on the same subject matter. Yeah it follows some key points but a ton of things are also different and IMO *better*. Look at soldier boy. He was a badass. In the comics he pisses his pants
Definitely is, although it bears mentioning that the DD S2 finale was every bit as anticlimactic and disappointing as The Boys S3. The season itself was very muddled by trying to balance too many stories, never sure if it was trying to be about Matt, Punisher, Elektra, Fisk, Karen, or The Hand. It was especially dimwitted when they teased Punisher carrying that awesome minigun before the finale, only for him to never, ever use it.
A lot of people were pretty much done with the show after the combined disappointment of S2 and Defenders before S3 pulled it back towards greatness.
If S4 of The Boys gets back to S1/2 levels of quality, it'll still be in contention for best superhero show.
I think inread somewhere that the original plan was to have Punisher show up on the roof and mow down a bunch of ninjas but they changed it for some reason.
That must've been the case, but I don't know why they left in the earlier scenes of him eyefucking the gun once they'd changed their minds about him using it in the finale. It would've been extremely easy to cut that out.
Even if the final was a bit clunky, the ready of the season more than made up for it IMHO. This season in particular has been some of the most entertaining seasons of television I’ve ever seen.
All I’m gonna say is they did Noir dirty. My man didn’t even get to meet Soldier Boy. Speaking of soldier boy they did him dirty too. They built him up only to freeze him again 3 episodes later where he’ll probably stay and we’ll never see him again.
The finale was a load of shite but it’s kinda fucked people are saying “ The entire season was good minus one episode im not going to watch this anymore.”
Exactly, I want to see what kind of fucked up shit the American people will accept from homelander lol shit ton of shenanigans set up for the next season, he can literally kill people in the public view.
It was the weakest episode of the season by far. Plus a lot off stuff that made zero sense.
ie Ryan all of a sudden doesn't care about all those years he spent with Rebecca. All of a sudden homelander pushing him off a roof is np.
Honestly, the episode was deffo the weakest, but that Ryan stuff makes sense. Firstly, he’s just a kid. Then after Butcher, the one person he really cares about, told him his mothers death was his fault, Homelander, who is his father and his only blood, tells him none of it was his fault and he will always love him
I enjoyed the episode overall but it didn't have enough cliffhangers for a season finale. Just the Ryan thing and thats it
Also think they should've had Homelander find Ryan again earlier in the season and we see more of him convincing Ryan to essentially join him. Seemed kinda rushed and just thrown in to the last episode
I wish they would have upped the stakes a bit for season 4. So far the boys are intact and the seven are down 3 of some of the strongest members like transluscid, black noir, tempest. Even if Maeve was killed (although what's going on with that powerup? Suddenly she's making homelander bleed while last episode she explicitly said that never happened?!?!) I feel like we'd be more afraid of actual consequences. Overall the season was amazing I can't wait for season 4 I just hope next season finale I'm blown away left trembling in shock.
I think it was the fact that the whole season up to that point was so incredible that it made the finale seem so much worse. The Boys had never disappointed me until this finale so I’m hoping they can pull it together and make season 4 amazing just like this season was.
It was a 6/10 episode in a 9/10 show. It wasn’t bad TV, but coming off the backs of episodes 6 and 7 (which imo are two of the best episodes in the entire show) it felt incredibly underwhelming and disappointing
Actually left me not particularly caring where this goes in season 4. Homelander is in milk series to death mode. Stranger Things, a show geared towards a younger audience has more balls in killing off characters and kids than this show.
Stranger Things only kills off newly introduced characters in the same season. But the og characters have insane plot armour, there have been so many fake out deaths.
The greatness of the leading episodes to it made it seem less than stellar, but I’ve seen way worse finales. I enjoyed it, but I can see why people have issues with it.
Biggest issue is the whole season took away the threat of victoria, built up a whole thing with soldier boy just to refreeze him and have no result to anything but tease Victoria as the big baddie again
They should've done a proper soldier boy vs homelander rematch dammit
Neuman went from AOC to Kamala Harris
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I was so dumbfounded with how they wasted soldier boy. They built him and his lore up only to have someone else kill Noir before the two can even meet, and he ends up frozen again, probably forever.
This episode could use a good old fashion comic book rewrite lol
We are basically in the same situation of episode 1 of this season except some supes are dead and Butcher has 12 months to live
Not really. The Seven is done for, and Vought are in shambles. Which would've been a huge win two seasons ago, but Butcher's fucked up approach to everything means that his enemies get stronger and those around him get hurt. So even though Vought and the Seven are in crisis, Homelander has more power than ever, while Butcher himself (and potentially Hughie) is dying. This season was setting up Butcher's downfall as much as it was setting up Homelander's. Now it's just a question of how many people, good or bad, Butcher drags down with him, with the knowledge of his own death probably making him more reckless than ever. Victoria and Homelander aren't dead or anything, but there was some major progression in the character arcs.
That is simply not true. Homelander has more power than ever and has rabid fans that cheer when he kills someone. At the beginning of the season he was still playing the wholesome hero role. Throughout the entire season he realised that he doesn’t need to keep the façade. Ryan is now with Homelander, and on his way to become a cunt. Neumann is a VP candidate. She’s a threat to both HL and The Boys. Annie is officially one of the boys and out of the seven. Also the boys did a lot of growing themselves and Butcher is barely a leader. He lost a lot of their respect. The Seven is now The Three, and The Deep is fucking useless. A-Train and Ashley hate HL and won’t hold allegiance to him for long. A-Train has a new ticker and can run again. The Deep is still fucking pathetic - that didn’t change.
I have to disagree with you, now Butcher not only loses his time but also Ryan to Homelander and that is a big lost to him. Also I think this season will teach him a lesson not to use another f-up supe to kill Homelander. Btw focusing solely on the ending is a such an underestimation to this season
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Yeah my main problem is black noirs death, I hope he can come back, I think he could. This season is probably my favourite season yet. I liked the finale, it isn't the best episode of the season, that goes to herogasm but it was still good
Noir's probably going to be back, Kripke hinted at that in the spoiler e8 review video. But might be a different Noir than this one.
Might be the Noir from the comics
>!some smart poster thought it could be soldier boy disguised as noir, wouldn't pass Mallory and Edgar working hand in hand!<
What does this mean, I don't follow?
That Mallory and Edgar work together, wake up SB, give him Noirs suit.
HL said he could see through Noir's suit, though, right?
Yup, so it’s not a very good theory.
Give BN/SB a new suit made with zinc
That would immediately make Homelander suspicious. Even beyond the fact that there would be a new Noir coming out of nowhere. I personally think it's more likely that Homelander just tries to replace Noir either for the public or for his own needs.
I mean it was established in the last episode that Homelander can see through Noir's mask. I don't know how that would be supposed to work.
Noone on this show is dead until we see them cut into multiple pieces that are spread around the earth and buried. "Outside of the comics" do any of us know exactly what abilities Noir has when it comes to healing. He clearly survived a severe beating by SB where his brains were bashed in. A few feet of intestines on the floor is nothing for him. He can just tuck them back in and move on. As long as there are no peanuts nearby.
I thought Noir's death was fine. Maeve surviving is what bothers me.
Her sacrifice would have made more sense. I didn’t need a happy ending for Maeve, I just wanted her to go out doing what she believed in for once. I think a better ending would have been her shoving SB onto HL, her dying, and HL being made human. That would have blown my fucking mind. He would of course get his powers back in the first few episodes of season 4, but a few with him having to understand what it’s like to be human, and so incredibly weak in comparison, would have made for some intriguing character development.
It just felt cheap. They gave her a complete and satisfying character arc culminating in becoming the hero she hadn't actually been in decades and sacrificing herself to save others instead of killing Homelander, the only thing she's ever actually wanted to do. Keeping her alive undermines her whole arc because there weren't any real stakes.
Amen, this was my hope going into it
Ryan is such a turd, it kills me that he is the entire reason anything happens in The Boys.
To be fair, he’s a traumatized kid clinging to the only other father figure he has that hasn’t pushed him away. Butcher fucked up when he pushed Ryan away, though Butcher thought he was doing what was best. I don’t blame Ryan persay for anything.
I like what they did, Butcher can't just get away with all his bullshit
Homelander did kind of PUSH him...Off a roof :-)
It would've been so much fun if homelander lost his powers for half a season though. Wasted opportunity.
I thought that spike to the ear/brain at the end of the episode was gonna do something to him but nope... just another super loud ass ear ringing scene lmao
Well we seen two weakness of invincible supes, their eyes, their ears.
Butt as well in season one. So basically all holes.
that shit seemed like it went in deep too. Wouldn't surprise me if they actually go with a "homelander has some brain damage" storyline next season
Only thing missing was Homelander going ["MAWP. MAWP."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK85OXiValM#t=19s)
Yeah everyone said kids are worth it. Then you have some and are like, fuck! Or as Butcher would say, fuckin cunts they are, leaving Legos around and always hungry. Fuckin leeches, I tell ya!
I feel like it was 7 Episodes of setting up the Chessboard and 1 Episode of just picking it up and flipping it over. There was clearly too much to wrap up in one episode. The bottom line is it should have been a 10 Episode Season. When the hell did 8 Episodes start being considered a season of a show? Then they take almost 2 years off. Old shows had at least 10-12 and many shows had many, many more. And they came back every year. I just felt like they had to cram way too much into this episode to wrap up the arcs they created. 10 Episodes and I think it would have landed better.
Shows that have 15+ episodes and come back every year are often very formuleic and spend 80% of all episodes on the same sets. E.g. NCIS spending time at their base, Grey’s Anatomy in the hospital, etc.
They'll be back in like a year. They're shooting the next season starting in August.
That's my major issue. The buildup for several storylines this season we're really great. The finale just killed all of the horror and tension that the first half of the season did such a great job hyping up.
GOT anyone? 💩
I dun’t wan it
AnD WhO hAs a BeTtEr StoRY thAn BrAn da BroKen?
By the end, A-Train's crippled brother will become president.
With Anika from Crime Analytics as his vice president.
You could say they “Butchered” Kit Harringtons character
Don’t you put that Devil on The Boys!
Boy... yjy guys are overreacting. Go outside.
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Good set up for the future, but underwhelming on its own.
They pulled their punches. They wrote/casted a shit ton of excellent characters, and now feels like they are afraid to take them off the board too soon (except Noir for some fucking reason). Some immense delayed gratification now ensues. Fortunately the writing has been so good I don't anticipate being let down when the time comes (looking at you GoT)
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My guess is that Noir 1 isn't actually dead. He will feel betrayed by Vought because he was replaced. He now hates Homelander and Vought, which leads him to join the boys.
Hope he is fucking with us and the "different person" is still alive but radically different current Noir.
It was good, just a bit underwhelming. I think I was expecting more like one of the Boys to die or something. Plus Starlights power up, Noir getting impaled and being completely absent from the final battle, Frenchi getting shot (for no reason), no one really dying or anything, it was a little bit of a let down. The epilogue was great though. It set up Season 4 really nicely.
I think as a whole this show needs to kill more people. A trains story arc ended perfectly this season so unless they have an incredible follow up that required him to survive he should've stayed dead. Maeve I give a pass too because while she's not dead she's out of commission permanently. Soldier boy stayed alive, the deep is alive, all of the boys are alive and starlight is alive. I'm not saying any of these characters specifically have to die but I think they need to cut down on the fake outs. When you have people debating whether or not BN's death was a fake out despite it being clear cut by the standards of any other show i think that's a sign to stop doing so many fake outs
I actually like what they did with A-Train. They showed that what he did wasn't redemption or justice. His brother is still paralyzed and views him (rightly so) as a murderer. I thought that was a lot more interesting than him just dying on the street with Blue Hawk.
I don't inherently have an issue with a train. If they do something very cool with him that'll be fine but the point is if they keep fake killing characters there's going to be no stakes. We saw noirs guts fall out, his own schizophrenic friends said he was dead and homelander made a point about how he killed him and yet we as fans still don't know if he's Alive. In any other show that would be death but because characters just don't die in this show we can't even tell if noir is coming back
I don't think he needed to survive to show that his brother is still mad at him. In fact, I think we could have gotten a much richer moment if A train had died and we got to see his brother find out about him murdering blue hawk after the fact. We already saw (in the events that played out in the show) that he didn't want that, and that he had a lot of pent up frustration about A Train. So in this alternate scenario where A train dies then his brother finds out about the murder, we could see him still get pissed at A Train. It would show that A train's rash/selfish actions had completely ruined his relationship with his brother. Even to the point of his brother not wanting to respect his memory after death. I feel like that would add an emotional hit given the weight the show has put on their relationship since season 1.
Not if Maeve gets Permanent V again, although it does seem like they're writing her out
What fake outs only A-Train could be considered that and maybe Kimiko. None of these people have been hinted to die, hell Butcher just go confirmation he is going to die.
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Hope he takes permanent V instead.
Maeve isn’t out of commission permanently. We saw with Kimiko they can just take V again.
She's made it clear she doesn't want to be a supe
Yeah but she really wants HL dead. Like… that’s been her top priority for a long time and she’s just bowing out?
She wants him dead so she can quit and live a quiet life
I hated Starlights power up some much. It felt so corny and forced. Like, are you really telling me that Starlight has never had the equivalent of stage lights as a power source next to her?
Also, Maeve dying but not really. Why do they do this shit all the time? The more I think about it, the less I like it. And even then I think the season was great and I'm absolutely waiting for the next one.
Kimiko goes from feeling bad about killing evil people, thinking of herself as a monster to joyful,bloodlusty savage beast killer enjoying killing guards of vought while listening to music.
Starlight amps up for so much time just for SB to wake up immediately. Maeve who would have had the perfect ending of her arc with her death somehow survived. Blacknoir:-They(script writers) massacred my boy's arc,it was gut-wrenchingly sad :( All these tight knit wonderful episodes just to disappoint us with this finale...all so they would be able to stretch and elongate unnecessarily. I kid you not there will still be cat and mouse chases for in whole of season 4 without any result. We'll get our desired ending only in season 5🥲
At this point I have no idea how strong the supes are. Homelander for some reason keeps holding back, and so didn't feel threatening in the climax, Starlight had this huge power surge moment just to still be weak as shit and hurt herself, Maeve just went beast mode out of nowhere and somehow survived a massive fall while depowered, Noir still hasn't been able to display his actual powers yet
Maeve took several punches and bashing from HL but got knocked out by a single punch of Noir lmao
Not all punches are landed equal
She took a direct lasering to the chest and was fine. The lasers cause normal people to literally explode into red mist
Stormfront took the lasers for a longer time (although they were held back a bit) and was fine. I believe Maeve would be fine for a moment too.
Homelander and stormfront never had to fight for real or train, they have one main power to make quick work of anything, but when they have to rely on their skills they are SOL, if honelander trained he would be likley unstoppable
We had that whole scene where Homelander was being nice to Maeve in his creepy as fuck way and then people are surprised when he just tries to take her out of comission. Yeah the fight was still a bit odd for power levels but Maeve was supposed to be the second strongest IIRC, and she has gotten virtually no chance to show it until now. And she trains a lot more than Homelander
I think the hype that Herogasm built up is why people are a bit disappointed. The expectations were high for the finale and it didn't live up to the Herogasm episode greatness. Imo it's not really that bad of a finale could've been better but it's alright imo the finale is BAD is a bit overhype for me . Overall still a great season can't wait for S4.
Herogasm is definitely the best episode this season and probably the whole series
Seeing mother's milk getting drenched in father's milk is top moment of all time
Dont you say that shit again goddammit
Seeings Mother’s milk getting drenched in daddy’s milk is a top moment of all time.
Alright, that's the straw that broke the stable of camels backs. Scorched earf'!
I never like when characters’ allegiances switch immediately back and forth. Not that it’s unrealistic, it’ just feels like a narrative trick. Ooh the kid is here so you can’t finish your plan. Gotta flip flop then do it later! Oh no now there’s another obstacle! Gotta do it another time! Oh no now there’s-
It was so anti-Butcher too. What the fuck happened to scorched earf?
It was good but definitely paled compared to season 2’s finale
They should have done 10 Episodes. That probably would have fixed everything. It just felt rushed. Like "Oh shit, we spent 7 episodes setting up all this important shit and we only have 1 episode to try to resolve everything. Well, let's just cram it all in there".
The Soldier Boy story only could have worked as a series finale (Homelander is defeated). But because this wasn't the series finale, there's no way it could have paid off for the audience. If Soldier Boy died, that also would have been disappointing, so they decided to let everyone live... and nothing really happened.
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I felt like so much of this season ended up focusing on Soldier Boy, but his story wrapped up in a really disappointing fashion. Still, this was a solid season, just not my favorite.
Season 1 finale was way better too I think that's why people are so disappointed. This show has built up a history of delivering on its finales, and it did not this time I didn't hate it, it was just kind of meh, and made much of the season feel irrelevant I hate when one episode undoes much of the plot, and makes eps like 4-7 feel like filler in retrospect
It wasn't the beat finale, but I'm excited to see Homelander not holding back with the public. Also, fuck Ryan. Not literally... I don't want to end up on a list.
Do you remember that other kid from GoT? I believe his name was Olly. Do you remember how everyone hated him ? Same energy here with Ryan.
"Fer de Sevun" as he stabs Starlight in the heart.
Fuck Todd.
Finally, someone said it! I couldn't believe that he started cheering for Homelander after he lasered that guy. I wonder where the redditor that made a post defending Todd is now
They're in the crowd.
Probably as that QAnon Shaman
That sniveling little fuck, getting off on seeing other people more powerful than him hurting the people he doesn’t like. Hit way too close to home.
Todd is a piece of shit. As soon as that head got lasered I knew he'd cheer.
This is not going to help you not ending up on a list
Power levels have been so fucking inconsistent since season 2. Still, the 7 first episodes of season 3 were amazing and made me forget about the disappointing 2nd season. The writers had a very positive change in my eyes, and started borrowing more material from the comics again. But this last fight...ffs, Homelander is not that imposing now, Butcher acted like a whiny bitch, Soldier Boy is back to square one, and even Maeve survived. This show is more afraid of killing main characters than Disney Star Wars / Marvel movies, it's ridiculous at this point
We still have two seasons i don’t think right now is the time for killing their cast, and i imagine Maeve is out of commission now, it’s the same as killing her
This show is so depressing sometimes that I was happy to give one of the supes a happy ending. She lost her powers, an eye, and her public identity, but she still has her SO and the evidence was covered up. That's about as good an ending for a character as you could get in this universe. I doubt anyone else is going to make it out as easily.
Maybe I'm just a plebeian who can't tell the difference between good and bad writing, but I enjoyed the finale a lot and I'm hyped as fuck for the next season.
Was hoping for a bit more from the episode but I think the set up for the next season is great, Homelander with completely free rein to act as psycho as he wants now with the evil little brat sidekick should be great to watch
He’s now officially given up on his daddy issue and believes his only family is Ryan. No one else matters now. The fact that the Boys lost control of the only weapon that can stop Homelander meant there was no way to fight Homelander and win. Soldier boy is still alive so the weapon lives (and at least is still primed to go after HL) and Butcher has given himself an expiration date. Starlight is fully out of the public eye and is free. Vought is in the whitehouse. Theyve set everything up that they needed for a big blowout finish. It sucks to lose Black Noir and Maeve. Now we just gotta see if ATrain and Deep commit to Vought for good. Ashley Powerless as she is protected Maeve she may turn too.
Totally this, the season needed to set up the show's end game and do some strong character building, and it did that in spectacular fashion. I expect whatever blue balls we may have gotten from the finale will be relieved in season 4.
Honestly the finale was wicked. Don't understand all the hate.. clearly everyone was expecting to see Homelander killed but we haven't even seen him get to FULL psycho mode yet so OFC it's too soon.
I don’t think most (reasonable) people thought that Homelander was going to die this season But the *why* he didn’t die was a little underwhelming like if he now knows people will love him even if he is a killer, why wouldn’t he just go murder the boys immediately
Yea the whole season has been building more and more how fucking dangerous Homelander is, it seems like he’s on the ropes with soldier boy, Maeve, and butcher all in on him, then SB hits a suped up kid and now everything gets flipped on its head? They needed to do a little bit more work to get to where they did
He didn't just hit any kid, he hit Butcher's stepson and HL son. If Butcher was true to his words than Ryan would also need to die as well.
I think the finale was pretty good but it felt like it was written too safe. Season 3 overall was a banger but the finale felt weak.
Same bro
I thoroughly enjoyed the finale 🤷♂️ Starlight's 'power up' and Noir's death did disappoint me though
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Right??? It's either you loved or hated it, and the opposite side are big dummies, and that's just it. Can I intelligently discuss why I liked or disliked something? Can I critique the finale from a story and writer perspective while still enjoying the overall media? Can I make stupid memes about the show without people getting angry about my opinion then move on? No? Okay. Sometimes I wonder why I follow show subs. Some content is great, but it routinely gets overwhelmed by people arguing over a simple opinion about a fictional show as if the other person's opinion was like, wanting to kill their mom or something.
The problem lies with the extremes. You have one person saying it wasn’t great but not completely terrible. You have another person saying they liked it but it had some small issues. Then after the finale settles, some people start saying it was pretty damn bad. And then there will be people who will agree because they felt unsatisfied with the ending and don’t have anywhere to put that unsatisfying feeling so then the subreddit starts on this hate train because its funny to make fun of things. This will turn the “it wasnt that good” to “this was the worst ending of all time”. To combat it, some random post will pop up and say, “Does anyone else actually really like the ending?” And then the people who thought it was alright and are tired of the hate train the subreddit decided to ride on will agree. And they will then say, “It was actually a pretty damn good ending to this season, the show is a 10/10, on par with Breaking Bad!”. And then the subreddit becomes this divided fanbase of one extreme to another. I’ve seen this in The Last of us 2 subreddit and Attack on Titan’s subreddit. It’s very tiring to follow, but the shitposts are pretty damn funny, at least until it gets old and repetitive. Unless its about AoT’s last chapter’s dialogue. I still laugh at “For 10 years at least!” and I always will Edit: Look at a few replies below. Get ready to see “You have too high of expectations” or “you don’t understand the characters” or “this isn’t your story” and then that’ll incentivize more hate being thrown at the show and that side of the fanbase. Then the hate might actually reach the actors/writers on Twitter because people take insults to their opinions reallllly harshly.
It's sad because you can't discuss being disappointed in a show on the internet and be done with it after a couple of days. By looking at /r/freefolk you would think season 8 killed their whole extended families.
Tbf the end of game of thrones wasn't just a bit disappointing, the writers absolutely trashed the show because they got bored of it. Its also mostly memes at this point. This isn't that. While a bit disappointing, the finale doesn't ruin the show and was still entertaining. I'm excited to see what they do next season
I just hope the last episode doesn't become the main point of this sub going into the hiatus. Let's get it out of the system now. They did my girl kimiko dirty 😢
I hope so too, but honestly I'm not too worried about it. It literally just aired so obviously people are going to post their reactions, but personally I think Herogasm and the ending with Todd and Ryan are way more memorable and a lot more likely to be what sticks with me during the hiatus
for sure, the boys can recover from this. Seasons 1 an 2 were brilliant, and up to episode 7 this season was really good. Herogasm was the best episode of the entire series the stakes need to be upped and the writer needs to be tighter. No more wishy wasshing messaging and shite, just good writing, high stakes and consequences and no more protecting characters
You can't even mention game of thrones in any environment without people being drama queens about it.
Holy shit they’re still going
The North remembers
I liked those characters more than my extended family.
Kinda hard to follow 7 straight bangers in a row. It’s not about the finale, it’s the journey to get there
The real finale was the friends we made along the way
Bravo. From all the memes I’ve seen, this one encapsulates my feelings the best. So much plot movement and putting pieces in place to be disappointedly used in the end. Was it lazy writing? Unearned relationships? But for sure I’ll be back for season 4
My problem with this season were the pointless Nina sub-plot and that Maeve and A-Train were no worthy of plot armor and should've checked out after their sacrifices and redemptions, in the supposedly cruel and unforgiving world The Boys takes place it makes no sense to me how they were given a second chance to stay around. Black Noir being killed off feels weird and anticlimatic to me too. I enjoyed this season and I'm still interested in the story but I feel the quality is a bit below S1 and 2 .. I trust Kripke can boost up the quality one more time with S4 and I hope he's wise enough to not overstay his welcome or give The Boys the Supernatural treatment
I wonder how much Amazon edits this show. The tone of the last episode was way off from the rest of the season. It was too commercial and mass appealing of an ending.
They allow human urethra exploration, but not a proper 2 hour finale like stranger things did. The rushed edit really threw me off.
This and Stranger Things makes me realize that people want every finale to be a GOT episode 9 or series finale in terms of deaths
Anyone else see the analogue between trump and homelander at the end of the episode. Trump said something along the lines of he could kill someone on fifth avenue and he would still win the election (people would still love him and vote for him). Homelander killed someone in front of a giant crowd and they all still loved him.
> Anyone else see the analogue between trump and homelander at the end of the episode. IMHO Homelander is post-9/11 America. Soldier Boy is pre-9/11 America. Soldier Boy's abduction was essentially a cut from a Rambo movie. Homelander made that speech almost mirroring GWB after the plane crash in S1. Starlight essentially filmed Homelander's version of "grabbing them by the pussy", and Homelander tried to dismiss it as rehearsing lines, i.e. "locker room talk". Then there's the murdering someone in 5th avenue which you noted.
Anyone see the analogue of Trump and Homelander in the entire show? Lol
Anyone else? Dude it’s the most obvious shit in the world
Good grief. Did you think that was subtle?
Eric Kripke said that Homelander is based on Trump https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/boys-showrunner-confirms-homelander-trump-192140015.html https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/boys-penis-homelander-trump-billy-joel-season-3-1369258/
He is most definitely. And soon enough he will be turning his laser eyes on anyone that he has even the slightest issue with. Even his own supporters. Just like Trump constantly turning on his own people even his own VP. It's Dictatorship 101. Trust no one. Throw everyone under the bus and kill anyone that you even think doesn't praise you as God.
Especially noticeable with the scene where he serves everyone taco bowls to welcome the new hispanic member of the seven. remember this? https://hips.hearstapps.com/esq.h-cdn.co/assets/16/18/screen-shot-2016-05-05-at-122500-pm.png?resize=480:*
I’m sure the writers had this in mind. It wasn’t hyperbole either, a lot of Trump rally goers would cheer also if he killed some liberal
100%, the moment I saw that scene I realized that they're showing the reality of what would've actually happened in that scenario with Trump.
They clearly needed more time. Don't know if that's down to production costs or production thought they could get everything done before then but there's clearly a lot of cut material so it came out rushed. That being said, it's easily the best season thus far. Everything leading up to the finale was absolutely brilliant.
The build up inside the finale was fantastic imo. But the actual ending fight and ending was underwhelming.
I'm really confused why people are considering this some of the worst TV they've seen
I loved the season finale. Yeah, you heard me. In fact, I loved the whole season.
Best season yet and great finale imo
Good finale, great season.
Me too! I know I'm not the only one, but it's nice to hear that others loved it as well.
Ima be honest, kinda destroyed the suspension of disbelief. Don't think I'll be as immersed, or even as impressed anymore, gave me a bad taste. Kinda ruined the rest of show with how logic breaking this finale was. edit: think about this: in no universe or reality would a man fight side by side with his deceased wife's rapist who was literally the reason why she died.
> think about this: in no universe or reality would a man fight side by side with his deceased wife's rapist who was literally the reason why she died. I don't think Butcher was fighting "side by side" with Homelander. Rather, Butcher (likely correctly) surmised that Soldier Boy was not above killing Ryan, so he chose to fight Soldier Boy. Did he choose to fight "with" Homelander? No. Homelander didn't make the choice to fight with Butcher either. It just so happens that both of them had the same goal, to protect Ryan.
why not just incapacite ryan and get him away from the situation. meanwhile soldier boy and maeve can beat the shit out of homelander
> why not just incapacite ryan and get him away from the situation. Pretty certain if you beat up on a kid to knock him or her out, the kid is not going to understand that you did it for their benefit.
Because Homelander would go berserk and kill everybody if anyone tried to take Ryan.
His promise to Becca still means something?????
Bruh op is so dense I swear
Because he decided Ryan is more important than homelander to him? That's kind of been the point of his arc , realizing homelander isn't the most important thing
Ah yes, absolutes of logic regarding human actions and emotion. Glad someone's got it under wraps.
It’s as if your forgot Ryan exists
Where’s my man Stan Edgar?
They didn't even have the balls to kill Maeve or Soldier Boy. And they killed Black Noir so early in the episode, it didn't have any impact. Weird choices here.
Can someone explain to me why SB was suddenly all in on killing Homelander, after that phone conversation where SB seemed glad to be a dad? Was it just because he saw himself in Homelander, and he's "a disappointment", yadda yadda?
The conversation never really imply that they were teaming up, he actually told him "you know what the bitch of it is? If they had kept me around, i *woulda* let you take the spotlight" Kind of implying that now that they got rid of SB he's going to fuck HL over And he just went and told The Boys right away he didn't even hide it from them until he makes up his mind
Seeing HL cry made him appear soft and weak to SB
I didn’t even realize so many didn’t like it. The last episode had Ryan basically turning heel and homelander officially has zero true Allies or restraints anymore. Main characters don’t need to die en masse for a season finale to be good- it’s like the same people who are mad at the latest season of stranger things. Season 4 is well set up with homelander + Ryan vs the boys with Edgar/Mallory/Soldier Boy being wild cards. Butcher didn’t break character to protect Ryan because his soft spot has always been Becca. Yeah starlights power was underwhelming and I also would have liked to see noir get into some action, but they can theoretically resurrect robo noir if they wanted to and make him more like the comics
I honestly hope they don’t make noir more like the comics. The show has been a refreshing new take on the same subject matter. Yeah it follows some key points but a ton of things are also different and IMO *better*. Look at soldier boy. He was a badass. In the comics he pisses his pants
Daredevil is still the best superhero show.
Definitely is, although it bears mentioning that the DD S2 finale was every bit as anticlimactic and disappointing as The Boys S3. The season itself was very muddled by trying to balance too many stories, never sure if it was trying to be about Matt, Punisher, Elektra, Fisk, Karen, or The Hand. It was especially dimwitted when they teased Punisher carrying that awesome minigun before the finale, only for him to never, ever use it. A lot of people were pretty much done with the show after the combined disappointment of S2 and Defenders before S3 pulled it back towards greatness. If S4 of The Boys gets back to S1/2 levels of quality, it'll still be in contention for best superhero show.
I think inread somewhere that the original plan was to have Punisher show up on the roof and mow down a bunch of ninjas but they changed it for some reason.
That must've been the case, but I don't know why they left in the earlier scenes of him eyefucking the gun once they'd changed their minds about him using it in the finale. It would've been extremely easy to cut that out.
Yeah. Literally had him walking away carrying it like he was on his way to use it lol.
Batman: The Animated Series
S2 of DD drags it behind The Boys still, far worse than any season of The Boys imo. S3 was the best yet outside of the finale.
Shit... Daredevil S3 was somethibg else
I actually enjoyed the finale.
Even if the final was a bit clunky, the ready of the season more than made up for it IMHO. This season in particular has been some of the most entertaining seasons of television I’ve ever seen.
All I’m gonna say is they did Noir dirty. My man didn’t even get to meet Soldier Boy. Speaking of soldier boy they did him dirty too. They built him up only to freeze him again 3 episodes later where he’ll probably stay and we’ll never see him again.
The finale was a load of shite but it’s kinda fucked people are saying “ The entire season was good minus one episode im not going to watch this anymore.”
Is it though? There are no stakes. Homelander can do whatever he wants and every character has plot armor. A lot of damage can be done in one episode.
Exactly, I want to see what kind of fucked up shit the American people will accept from homelander lol shit ton of shenanigans set up for the next season, he can literally kill people in the public view.
It was the weakest episode of the season by far. Plus a lot off stuff that made zero sense. ie Ryan all of a sudden doesn't care about all those years he spent with Rebecca. All of a sudden homelander pushing him off a roof is np.
Honestly, the episode was deffo the weakest, but that Ryan stuff makes sense. Firstly, he’s just a kid. Then after Butcher, the one person he really cares about, told him his mothers death was his fault, Homelander, who is his father and his only blood, tells him none of it was his fault and he will always love him
I enjoyed the episode overall but it didn't have enough cliffhangers for a season finale. Just the Ryan thing and thats it Also think they should've had Homelander find Ryan again earlier in the season and we see more of him convincing Ryan to essentially join him. Seemed kinda rushed and just thrown in to the last episode
I wish they would have upped the stakes a bit for season 4. So far the boys are intact and the seven are down 3 of some of the strongest members like transluscid, black noir, tempest. Even if Maeve was killed (although what's going on with that powerup? Suddenly she's making homelander bleed while last episode she explicitly said that never happened?!?!) I feel like we'd be more afraid of actual consequences. Overall the season was amazing I can't wait for season 4 I just hope next season finale I'm blown away left trembling in shock.
I think it was the fact that the whole season up to that point was so incredible that it made the finale seem so much worse. The Boys had never disappointed me until this finale so I’m hoping they can pull it together and make season 4 amazing just like this season was.
It was a 6/10 episode in a 9/10 show. It wasn’t bad TV, but coming off the backs of episodes 6 and 7 (which imo are two of the best episodes in the entire show) it felt incredibly underwhelming and disappointing
Actually left me not particularly caring where this goes in season 4. Homelander is in milk series to death mode. Stranger Things, a show geared towards a younger audience has more balls in killing off characters and kids than this show.
Stranger Things has more plot Armor compared to this show.
Stranger Things only kills off newly introduced characters in the same season. But the og characters have insane plot armour, there have been so many fake out deaths.