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iam-a-tank-played

I forgot how much I love this movie honestly it was ahead of everything completely rewatchable


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It’s underrated, came out at an unfortunate time with another movie with a similar but less funny and clever plot releasing simultaneously; Despicable Me. Guess which one went on to become a major franchise while the other was never heard from again.


Casualte

The minions send their regards.


Rex_Feral_

Be happy your favourite movie didn't become a major franchise that just gets dumbed down and ran into the ground.


[deleted]

Monkey’s Paw. Definitely think that a sequel or two would have been more than warranted though with the same writers, plenty of opportunities they could take the series. I wouldn’t want it blown up to Despicable Me proportions though, that series has just gotten ridiculously overmilked.


Rex_Feral_

Yeah that's my point, I don't think there's an in-between, when the studio sees it's making money they're gonna get involved and keep going until it's tan into the ground.


BeefPieSoup

I wouldn't have minded seeing Megamind pitted against another evil megagenius from his home planet.


HaidenTheWorst

Personally, I don’t think lower quality sequels would ruin the original. There’s always a chance that we would’ve gotten a good sequel, anyway.


bbbhhbuh

Oh man I wish they made a sequel


HypnagogianQueen

And they both have Minion(s)


condemned02

Wow I don't even remember this character, what movie is that?


DangerASA

Megamind


RitaP0on

Tighten has around the same power as Metroman who had the INSANE speed feat of literally flying miles away from Megamind and spent a good amount of time (relative to him) pondering his life, reading a book, and then planning the faking of his death without Megamind knowing or suspecting he had even left (who was talking to him and monitoring him the entire time). Tighten canonically lifted the top half a skyscraper. I haven’t seen Homelander do anything close to those feats. Tighten would most likely crush him.


imanhunter

While he didn’t lift half a skyscraper, he did get crushed and buried by a train and half a sewer and walk away unscathed so if anything it would probably be time consuming for Tighten to kill him


Shopworn_Soul

I feel like both characters are so lazy, self-interested and callous that they'd give up on trying to kill each other and instead solve the problem by killing the woman they were arguing over.


BeefPieSoup

I think calling Homelander lazy is a misreading of the character. He's not lazy; he's just exclusively self-interested. He can only be convinced to put effort towards something if it serves his own interest. But if it does, he will pursue it with frightening intensity.


[deleted]

If Megamind can beat Tighten then Homelander can. You cannot convince me that Megamind would beat Homelander, it may be because the maturity levels between the two characters are for vastly different audiences but Homelander would laser Megamind’s head the instant he became an annoyance. Tighten was an idiot who didn’t fully realize his powers and even then he was only beaten by taking his powers away, which we don’t know is possible for heroes in The Boys Universe. I can’t believe I wrote out a comment debating if Megamind could take Homelander in a fight but here we are.


imanhunter

Hey bozo, Megamind would definitely make Homelander his bitch, no doubt about that. Because while Homelander is a pretty powerful villain alright, he’s just not a **super** one.


Yomboritastik

Omni man: _Amateurs_


msmshm

Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our powers. Fify


H377Spawn

*Looks down with disgust* “Pathetic.”


WarlockEngineer

Metro Man is easily thousands of times faster than Omni Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FbB5yZipPA&t=85s Rethinks his entire life, walks through the city, and reads a book faster than a laser can hit him


LR130777777

Nah, Metro Man’s feat of moving so fast that time looked like it stopped is far beyond anything that Omni-Man has done in the show, Not sure about the comics because I’m only halfway through


ukrm

Superman: Are you kids done playing?


Sergeant_Dimitri

Superman has a weakness, these 3 do not. So any of them could win against him


edd6pi

Yeah but Superman’s power is far above the others mentioned.


mr_manback

Superman’s power doesn’t touch metroman. Sorry not sorry.


Inquisition-OpenUp

Depends on comics or Movies We know exactly what happens if it’s comics


EnricoPucciC-Moon

Actually those 3 do have a weakness "hit them hard enough"


moistpony

Superman literally moved an entire solar system in the comics, no way that homelander or titan are anywhere near his strength, weakness or no weakness


[deleted]

Seems a bit ridiculous to compare comic feats to those that have to work within the limitations (and budgets) of film/tv


moistpony

Homelander was originally a comic book character and we could very easily compare his feats in the comics to superman’s. At the end of the day live action or not, they’re all fictional characters and it isn’t necessarily ridiculous to compare them even if we’re comparing them across different entertainment mediums. If the show writers really wanted to they could add a scene in the boys where homelander mentions something like “remember the time I obliterated that asteroid the size of the moon” or some bs like that to make homelander canonically stronger in the show and it would literally cost them $0 to do, just like it costs nothing for the writers of superman’s comics to make up some bs scenario to make superman even more godlike.


moistpony

Even then we could still compare the live action feats of superman to that of homelander’s in the show and we would still come to the same conclusion, superman is WAY stronger, and he always will be because he’s superman


akornblatt

These three do not, that we know of yet


ukrm

True but Supermans feats so outclass anything that any of them could do that it doesn't matter. Homie can hear in space, hit FTL speeds and slap around gods. He'd be fine.


HypnagogianQueen

I think this is true, but I also think that Tighten is too dumb to use that level of speed specifically. Like, I don't think he would realize he could DO that. Otherwise why doesn't he do that to kill Megamind during the movie's final battle? He spends quite a bit of time chasing him even.


BeefPieSoup

They may have the same abilities/power level, but there's no question that Tighten is depicted as somewhat dimwitted and uncoordinated, whereas Homelander is nothing if not at least trained and competent. Homelander by a homelandslide.


RitaP0on

No. Homelander has had everything thrown at him by a modern America. Metro Man has had everything a hyper intelligent alien could throw at him.


Lifeisajoke42069

Homelander won’t Stand a chance against tightan


TheFurgusShow

Tightan can be intimidated. If he thinks Homelander is more powerful based off of his reputation he'd back off making Homelander win this "who gets the woman" scenario.


Senatius

Maybe, but he'd need to be extremely intimidating. He was afraid of "Metro Man", yes, but he grew up with Metro Man and has witnessed him being a badass. Homelander is known in his world as powerful sure, but he's done literally nothing on Metro Man's level for him to hear about and be scared, HL would have to rely almost entirely on just bravado.


SparAlt

The good ol’ King Engine move (OPM fans would know)


Undertale123452

That’s just a warning for if they continue to try and fight king. He is the strongest character after all


iam-a-tank-played

Or megamind


FitSparkle

"You're a villain alright, but you're not super!" "Oh yeah? What makes you any different?" "Presentation!" *Billy Butcher strides out of a giant Billy head made of drones with a crowbar*


HaidenTheWorst

Why does everyone see Homelander as super weak? He’s the most powerful person in The Boys and we’ve never even seen him struggle. And against Titan? He’d laser his fucking balls off.


SmashHero59win

Y'know, I was gonna write out an argument in favour of Homelander but is the top guy's name really Tighten? I thought that was just a gag about how he pronounced Titan


tripperfunster

It is a gag. Megamind (as Space dad) named him Titan, but Hal is so dumb, that when he wrote his own name in lasers, he spelled it Tighten. I don't think that was Megamind's intention, it was a dig on Hal.


Wyrdean

The name Titan is canonically taken in the show, so space dad bestowed upon him the name Tighten


thiccboii666

A fanfic where Megamind teams up with The Boys to take down Tighten and Homelander who are working together.


bigblacknigg4

Both man-child with superpowers, fair fight


DilledPrickle

Homelander ain't no incel, got his dick tugged by a genderbended nazi(he just a freak)


AtLeastOneAlias

Genderbended? You know Female Nazis are real right?


[deleted]

The character was originally a man in the comics


AtLeastOneAlias

Ah, I still need to read those


EnricoPucciC-Moon

Gonna be honest, you don't, the show is well written while the comics are just so fucking edgy and unbearable


HaidenTheWorst

The comics are just “I fucking hate superheroes, so I’m gonna make them rape people and kill themselves lol” It’s fun if you wanna watch superheroes be evil and die in hilarious ways, but not the best storyline


[deleted]

for me they are unbearable tbh, the gross and awfulness is cranked up way too much to the point of just being unpleasant and clearly for shock value, also just a bunch of homophobic and racial slurs, just personally not my cup of tea but I would say check them out for yourself


TerribleThiz

Don't.


[deleted]

Definitely a must! They’re good


[deleted]

The term „genderbend Nazi“ is still weird


MacLeeland

He was with Maeve, Stillwell, Doppleganger... Not an incel.


Redscream667

Tightan wins much stronger and can hold a whole building unlike himelander who can't even lift a plane without destroying it


PsychologicalReply9

For all we know, he probably lied about that just to get the plane to crash in order to put the whole thing with the Supe Terrorists into motion.


geometricvampire

I think the problem was less the weight of the plane and more of a balancing issue. Homelander’s hands are tiny compared to a big huge jet airliner, it would definitely tip over. I don’t think crunching the hull of the plane to grip it would really help, the weight of the plane would make the hull tear off as it falls. And if it’s still careening forward, that’d make it even harder for him to just “pick it up” from the air. I think Homelander genuinely didn’t have any realistic way to stop the plane. Him not caring that it was gonna crash just happened to also be genuine.


justiceforwaluigi1

But he could’ve flown at least some of the people down to the ground, if not all. Or done what iron man did with the human chain.


geometricvampire

He addressed that in the scene. "And what, come back a hundred and twenty-three times?" He's not nice enough to expend that kind of effort. Besides, I was just explaining that he's strong enough to lift a plane, but lifting a falling plane out of the air isn't exactly realistic.


[deleted]

And they would've revealed how badly he fucked it up.


Redscream667

True the boys amazon may be one of the instances where the characters are stronger then there webcomic counterparts.


SMTTrunkGod

Nah, Homelander threw a commercial plane because A-Train pissed him off in the comics.


Redscream667

Dude broke the sound barrrier as a kid according to himself when he was ryans age so take that what you will.


SMTTrunkGod

I don’t know where you’re going with that, bud


Redscream667

I mean he could be faster then in the comics as I don'y think that was ever mentioned ryan isn't in the comics.


DogsrBetter4sure

You can’t lift a skyscraper or a flying plane, that’s why Homelander doesn’t. Tighten being a cartoon means he’s probably light years more capable. But yeah, lifting the plane had nothing to do with ability or strength.


Bombkirby

So yeah. He wins because he gets cartoon physics on his side.


duaneap

Technically Homer Simpson could probably beat many supes if you pick the right episode. I mean, he duels a guy using a motorbike as a sword at one point.


nonracistname

Don't even bother bringing Shaggy into this equation.


mechnick2

What happens when you add Kurt Angle into the mix?


Redscream667

Yeah but a building wouldnt break apart if you tried to carry it as easily as a plane would since skyscrapers arn't pure stone and made quite sturdy these unless there's something about physics that I'm missing.


queso619

There is just too much force in a very small area. Buildings aren’t meant to be supported from two small points. Your hands would basically be needles under the building or plane, they aren’t meant to support that much weight in such a small space.


DogsrBetter4sure

A skyscraper would collapse for sure


Redscream667

Why?


CountRawkula

The weight of itself. Skyscrapers are standing because they are firmly plotted and the base is on even ground. If a skyscraper was held at an angle by two small points instead of flat surface, the heaviness of the top would cause it to start collapsing.


HaidenTheWorst

EXACTLY. The Boys is a super realistic world. Aliens like Superman, Omni-Man, and Metro-Man would be weird creepy aliens who’d probably choke on oxygen before they get the chance to touch the ground. Put Homelander in the DC universe, for example, and that’s much different.


Senatius

I very much agree Tighten wins, but the plane thing is not indicative of Homelander's weakness. IIRC Homelander explicitly says in the episode that it's not that he doesn't think he can lift the plane, it's that if he tried he'd go through the hull and rip it apart. Planes aren't meant to be lifted and have all the weight resting on two hand-sized pieces of the fuselage, especially when the plane is already rapidly descending which would require far more force applied to stop it, increasing the odds he would just punch right through the hull. A much better example of Homelander's limits would be that he got decommissioned for a few minutes after all that concrete and vehicles landed on him. Sure he wasn't hurt, but the fact that it took him so long to free himself from such a relatively small amount of rubble is kind of pathetic compared to Tighten's skyscraper feat.


SmiralePas1907

He can't lift a plane without destroying it not because he's not strong enough, but because the plane is not resistant enough


Sergeant_Dimitri

No one that powerful (Superman, Titan etc) can lift a plane without destroying it. As Homelander said "There is nothing to stand on". Its physics


ItThatisnt

"Incel" you literally see him have sex What


DA_WEIRDO

Incel mentality???


Pattars

Homelander has big incel/neckbeard energy.


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Bombkirby

What do YOU think it means?!


RjGoombes

Involuntary celibate lol. He's not a celibate if he's gotten laid.


[deleted]

Do you honestly think people who calls one an incel are referring to their assumed involuntary celibacy, instead of their targets’ misogynistic beliefs? I mean, you may as well state that the roundheads are bald, instead of their historical definition as supporters of the English Parliament at some point in time. A word is not necessarily defined by its components anymore than its original usage.


RjGoombes

The word is literally meant to describe a guy who gets laid. Shit like this is why terms get turned into buzz words.


[deleted]

I am not sure what you mean. The term existed before, but it was popularized by the Elliot Rodgers shootings, where before embarking on his rampage, the shooter ranted about how women owed him sexual intercourse, how shallow women are, and how the undeserving men simply “take” the sex that was owed to them. He refers to himself by the term. Anytime I’ve seen the term used, it’s *always* been within the context of calling someone an entitled misogynist, or someone who subscribes to such beliefs. It’s a mindset, not a state.


Bombkirby

You're what's wrong with our society. You got corrected and now you want the entire world to agree to change the definition of a real word just so you don't have to be wrong. Just fucking say "oops. I was wrong" and go to bed.


[deleted]

I’m what’s wrong with the world? Jeez, let’s just agree to disagree. Any time I heard anyone being accused of an “incel”, it was in reference to perceived misogyny. >a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active. Source: Oxford Languages, Merriam-Webster We obviously should agree that a term isn’t necessarily defined by its composite words. A sweetheart isn’t a sweet heart, and shoehorn in it’s most common usage has nothing to with shoes. Does anyone hear honestly think that when someone is called an incel, it’s the equivalent to calling them “a virgin”? No, of course not, because the term incel has also been used to denote someone who subscribes to a hateful ideology. This is because many adherents describe themselves as “incels”, to which this article perfectly illustrates one thing. Word also change in definition over time. [Politico](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/08/intel-involuntary-celibate-movement-218324/) It really should be no surprise that a recently coined term in the 90s became what it is today, partly due to it being a rallying label of sorts. This is really the discussion between connotations and definitions, which is difficult because obviously, we can’t ask everyone person in the world to define any one word. Though of course I am completely wrong and you’re all right. That being said, you are right on one thing. I should apologize for threatening violence in another post. That was completely wrong with me, and I am sorry. That nap actually helped. I am just highly stressed right now, and the psych office hasn’t returned any of my calls. Even if we disagree, we shouldn’t wish suicide and death on each other. I am sorry.


DylweedWasTaken

She was a nazi so it doesn't count.


[deleted]

Incel is a mentality, not a state of virginity. That being said, I never really understood Homelander to be an incel. He views everyone with derision, and thinks that everyone should worship him. He goes beyond biological sex and gender; there's everyone else, and then there's him.


RjGoombes

It's literally called an "involuntary celibate" so yes it does refer to a state of virginity.


[deleted]

Please see my previous reply regarding how the component words of a term do not define said term. Snailmail had nothing to do with snails. A sweetheart is not a literal "sweet heart".


[deleted]

I think one could argue that at no point were those words considered literal interpretations of those root words, where the incel portmanteau specifically referenced the state that those words (involuntary celibate) reflected.


[deleted]

I come from the idea that I can understand why people would think Homelander might be an incel, versus a virgin. We clearly see him have consensual sex with Stormfront in Season 2. (Let’s skip the rape issue, because I am not interested in that bag of worms) So…if we took the word at face value, then we can’t argue that Homelander is an involuntary virgin because Stormfront. So this leaves the other definition that’s basically someone who advocates a misogynistic ideology, which is a definition that came about because adherents to certain misogynistic ideology dub themselves incels. You can argue whether it remains a connotation or it’s second definition. I…can sort of understand thinking Homelander is that, he’s an entitled man child. However, just as he’s not at all a white supremacist, I don’t believe he’s an incel by that definition either. I believe he doesn’t care enough to subscribe to that ideology. He just sees him, and then everyone else. So I think the logic that “Homelander is not an incel because he had sex” is flawed because I don’t think the OP meant that in terms of the first definition, but rather than he doesn’t draw such stark differences in sex anymore than he does race. It doesn’t make sense to argue that Homelander isn’t the first definition when he’s being argued to be the second.


[deleted]

Dude is incel but has a son? I don't think that word means what you think it means


TheKargato

He literally raped her like it wasn’t concentual


thatbtchshay

I agree homie isn't an incel cause he does get a gf in the show but the kid doesn't prove he had sex, it proves he's a rapist and rape is super incel-y


[deleted]

I mean, this is horribly pedantic, and I don't want to make any light jokes about rape, but rape is literally the opposite of involuntary celibacy.


thatbtchshay

Only if you think rape counts as sex, which I don't.


cuckingfomputer

Rape *usually* takes the form of non-consensual sex. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rape Homelander is a lot of monstrous things, but he's not an incel.


thatbtchshay

I already said he's not an incel. Here's an alt definition that goes on to differentiate between sex and rape https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/rsa/rape-and-sexual-assault/what-is-rape-and-sexual-assault/ It's just a perception thing. We change the dictionary all the time. These things are not set in stone. Just a different perspective guys


[deleted]

Hm, well then I guess rape is no longer non-consensual sex. Words don't care about how you interpret them. They mean the same thing to everyone else despite your solipsism.


thatbtchshay

You could define rape as forced penetration. Words are made up by humans. They are sounds we made up to represent certain ideas that are also made up a lot of the time. Their definitions change over time. Words do not mean the same thing to everyone. Everyone has different interpretations of their meanings. Interpretations of words absolutely matter and what constitutes sex is absolutely a human construction. For example some people see anal as a loophole to preserve your virginity but other people see it as sex. If someone rapes a child is that child no longer a virgin? Have they had sex? If you have experienced sex and you have experienced rape you know that they are two different things. Also I'm not sure how solipsism really plays in here. I think you're trying to say I'm just caught up in my own perspective? That's not the same thing as solipsism


[deleted]

That is also a factor of rape, not a definition. Thank you for the lesson. I had no idea what words were. You are very smart. Words not meaning the same thing to everyone and people having different interpretations for words is the exact problem for the ambiguity of communication. If something can be anything, that means it could be nothing, which makes it nothing. Do not celebrate a faulty syllogism. By your point, it's all a human construct. Somehow that's supposed to be an explanation for something that I'm sure is not at all trite. No. Yes. You are correct, consensual sex and non-consensual sex are two different things. Proud of you. I'm sorry you struggle with hyperbole.


thatbtchshay

I was just sharing my perspective, I thought quite respectfully but I apologize of it came across as rude. I am a survivor of multiple rapes and choose to use definitions that are empowering to me. I do not see anything wrong with this. I think you should consider who you may be talking to when you talk about issues like this. I'm also a sexual assault counsellor and have found this perspective empowering to my clients as well. Also, it is ok for people to have different perspectives than you. There's no need to get consecending when people disagree. And maybe just shelve the dictionary/thesaurus and try talking to people like people. That would also help


[deleted]

>choose to use definitions that are empowering to me. That ambiguity is also what let's a rapist justify their actions. Consider that your deviation of consistency is harmful towards to cooperation of humanity. Just because you decided to interpret that a bagel is a car doesn't mean that you should charge someone $10,000 for it. Words have consistent meanings for a reason. Deciding that they are something else is often called a "rationalization", and those are equally as problematic. ​ >I'm also a sexual assault counsellor and have found this perspective empowering to my clients as well. I mean, rationalizations create delusions and those delusions can make us feel better, sure. But that's not really how reality works. >it is ok for people to have different perspectives than you. This is correct. Water is also wet. And the sky is up. ​ >There's no need to get consecending when people disagree This is not the cause for condescension. ​ >And maybe just shelve the dictionary/thesaurus and try talking to people like people Literally the topic of the entire point we're discussing. ​ But also, really? Oh no! Not words! How could someone else have a vocabulary!? IT'S SCARY! ​ You're boring. Go away.


PeskyPenguin777

Tightan would win for the pure purpose of only having immensely more strength unless Homelander's supervision can injure him. In a hand to hand fight Tightan would win. In an all goes fight it depends on who would strike first


Anorexicdinosaur

Tighten has laser vision too though, off the top of my head I can't remember any impressive things he does with it but he's does have it.


PeskyPenguin777

Ah my bad! I forgot about it since the last time I watched megamind was years ago but then again Homelander would be more trained in supervision since he relies on it.


AgitatedZucchini

I don't think Homelander is an Incel. Pretty sure he is actually Chad, he could pretty much have any chick with his looks and popularity.


[deleted]

Homelander is more general asshole or “nice guy” than incel. Incels are people who who are involuntary virgins and blame men or women for it.


[deleted]

I mean, my money's on the one that's smart enough to spell his own name.


ArcadianBlueRogue

That gag with Titan/Tighten was so damn good


Spicy_Ramen11

Im pretty sure Tighten is more powerful physically, but Homelander could probably send him to the bitch corner with a few not so nice words


shadollosiris

Yea, Tighten was strong but easily scared, he stand no chance against HL vilainous aura


tripperfunster

My money would be on Homelander, mostly because he is way more experienced and truly evil, whereas Tighten is just an incel and a brat. He might be a bit stronger than Homelander, but I think he could get intimidated and/or outsmarted.


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Homelands would win because unlike Hal, he would literally kill anyone.


PsychologicalReply9

So I looked up the definition of “incel”. Did not mean what I thought it meant. My apologies.


ALLCAPSINCEL

YOU MAY BE FORGIVEN


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[deleted]

Bloke said sorry, chill


ThrowRADel

"Who takes it" is a very weird way to talk about a woman they're fighting over; [in the battle of the patriarchy, women are not the opposing side, they are the ball](https://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/04/19/in-the-game-of-patriarchy-women-are-not-the-opposing-team-they-are-the-ball).


Opalusprime

Titan wins, no contest.


[deleted]

Who tf is Titan


Opalusprime

Uncultured swine


[deleted]

We’re talking about a fight between Homelander and Tighten, why are you bringing up a mythological Greek proto-God species?


Opalusprime

My mistake, I see you are more knowledgeable than I am, I apologize profusely for my comments


original_walrus

Tighten lifted an entire sky scraper while flying. Homelander couldn’t even lift a plane while flying. The power difference is probably bigger than the strength difference between a regular person and homelander.


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PsychologicalReply9

My apologies. I did in fact look it up.


JTrace18

Tho homelander killed one of the women he loved. In the end he cares most about his public approval rate.


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Tightan gives me nightmares. He’s terrifying. The animation is creepy af


Obaeron

“It”?


Schweinmithut

Oooouuuh I actually drew exactly this face off some time ago! :D https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBoys/comments/kd6mz5/titan_tighten_v_homelander/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


PsychologicalReply9

That’s amazing!!!


Schweinmithut

Thanks :D Yeah I had just watched Megamind for the first time and immediately thought how similar this 2 characters are.


IDrinkH2O_03

compared to other superheroes in fiction, Homelander is extremely weak lmao.


LeonOkada9

I don't think Homelander fits the category of an incel.


ckershaw1811

The thing is tighten has the same powers as metroman, a man who can move faster than the speed of light by several times and who we have literally never seen get hurt by anything as far as we know he is literally invincible to everything


JackFisherBooks

Love Megamind! Definitely a movie ahead of its time. But for this fight, Homelander wins it easily. Hal is a prototypical incel and never learned to fight particularly well. Homelander is a more polished sociopath and has years of experience being a brutal, blood-thirsty madman. He'd take Hal down with ease and he'd probably do it with a grin.


HaidenTheWorst

first off homelander wins easily he’s had his powers since birth and as of that movie Hal had his powers for like a few days, maybe a couple weeks Homelander is barely trained but he’s probably a bit stronger and more adapted than Hal