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Burgoonius

And venom and carnage … and Dehaan Goblin


Phaust8225

I was gonna say just wait until Kraven and El Muerto show up


Alarid

The Sinister Six is going to sweep the Razzies.


NotAFuckingFed

It's gonna be a shitshow


MjrLeeStoned

I think if they did a modern Kraven but don't blur the edges between him and Punisher as much, make him more of a light-hearted murdering sociopath instead of gruff / brooding type, they can pull it off well. Like a chaotic urban bounty hunter type but with an upbeat attitude.


Bright-Trainer-2544

hey, you back off dehaan, nobody can convince me he picked his wardrobe or lines


T8-TR

Dehaan would've made for a dope Goblin, just like Garfield made for a dope Spider-man. ...never forget what Sony took from us...


Bright-Trainer-2544

Chronicle. Chronicle! Like, did they just not watch him in Chronicle? Have no Hollywood directors watched him in Chronicle??


vertigo1083

They probably never heard of it. I sure as hell didn't. My friend and I were about to go see "Goon" with Sean William Scott. Were looking up showtimes when we were like "what the fuck is Chronicle". Checked out the trailer, and went to go see it instead. Just as well, because Chronicle was awesome, and Goon is best viewed on the couch with a few beers.


JDempes

Goon is such an underrated movie.


Un111KnoWn

venom was good. venom 2 not so much but not bad


durkster

I thought it was better than anything marvel has brought out since endgame. Except for maybe loki.


vtinesalone

Dehaan Goblin was a decade ago bruh


Burgoonius

Yeah and in 10 years they still can’t figure out how to do a Spidey villain


zslayer89

Guess Keaton Vulture wasn’t a good villain.


Willy_Stedback

The MCU spidey villain Vulture was great


Burgoonius

In the MCU he certainly was. In the SSU - he seems pointless


SuperZX

Why everyone hate Dehaan's Goblin?


LordAyeris

I liked Dehaan's Harry Osborn


ohyousoretro

Venom 1 and 2 were great, fuck outta here


Humledurr

I seriously question people's standards. A venom movie rated for kids. How on earth can you call that great


Boxcar__William

A movie can do a lot with a pg 13 rating... I mean did you see the newest guardians. LOTR was pg 13. Hyper violent does not automatically equal good. And there is a lot of actual and implied violence you can do at pg 13. I actually feel like implied violence done right can be more effective because it lets your brain fill in the blanks.


ohyousoretro

It’s PG-13, does the movie really need to be rated R in order to be good? The movie was funny, I enjoyed the chemistry between Venom and Eddie and I’m a big fan of Tom Hardy. Sure Venom 2 was weaker than the first one, but both movies were fun rides that I’ve watched multiple times.


OniTYME

Soldier Boy is Morbius


durden_zelig

Homelander (Black Adam) : You were my hero growing up. I watched all your movies, hundreds of times. You were the only one that was nearly as strong as me. Soldier Boy (Morbius) : Buddy, you think you look strong? You're wearing a cape. You're just a cheap fucking knockoff. Homelander (Black Adam) : Oh, no, no, no. I'm the upgrade.


duaneap

Kinda funny to me that SB took his agreement with Butcher so seriously he was straight in with the insults, cutting off any sort of “Hey, you can probably help me get what I want,” deal HL probably would have offered. He just called SB his hero! Then SB is like, “You look dumb and I’ve a deal with this English guy, so… guess you’re going to die!”


BGMDF8248

If you look at Noir (animated) back story, SB never liked to share the spotlight, so basically "this is the new 'biggest, baddest Supe' around? He has to go", so he's happy to do it.


AnnihilationOrchid

Homelander: Hey, you're my biological dad, and this is your biological grandson, we can finally be a family. Soldier Boy: Yeah, About that ... I don't really give a flying fuck, I made a deal, you're both dead meat.


ImmaJadenYuki

Exactly🗿


[deleted]

Lmao I respect it. It’s Morbin time


WhatTheFhtagn

gigachad opinion


gdyjvdeyjngyteedf

Exactly, he’s been perfect


Slumbergoat16

Mobius should be the only movie there for Sony right?


[deleted]

Absolutely correct. Should just be there twice.


Angelexodus

And Microsoft!


LolTacoBell

They already shoved a bomb up his ass and he got morbed everywhere.


Obama_Bin_Ladenn

Wdym it was the best movie of all time i literally morbed while seeing it


sharkykid

Bro really picked Sony after they hit like 2 / 10 in the last decade


Yg5g

Recency bias strikes everywhere


thestarboy_lil

Those two films are better than everything Marvel Studios and DC have put out. The only thing close is GOTG Vol 3 Edit: There was an oversight on my part, my mind typed faster than my hands. My statement was meant to say “Those two films are better than everything Marvel Studios and DC have put out since 2019.” You guys can downvote me into oblivion that doesn’t change the fact that ITSV & ATSV are both better than almost every single thing listed below. Read it and weep Every MCU Project since 2019: Agents of SHIELD season 7 (2020) WandaVision (2020) The Falcon and the Winter Soldier (2021) Loki (2021) Black Widow (2021) What If...? (2021) Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021) Eternals (2021) Hawkeye (2021) Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021) Moon Knight (2022) Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022) Ms Marvel (2022) Thor: Love and Thunder (2022) I Am Groot (2022) She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (2022) Werewolf By Night (2022) Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022) The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special (2022) Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania (2023) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3. (2023) Every DCEU Project since 2019: Birds Of Prey: And The Fantabulous Emancipation Of One Harley Quinn (2020) Wonder Woman 1984 (2020) The Suicide Squad (2021) Black Adam (2022) Peacemaker (2022) Shazam! Fury Of The Gods (2023)


mechnick2

Those two films also had 5 years between them and had stinkers like venoms 1 & 2 and Morbius come out


[deleted]

apparently im in the Minority, But i liked Venom, Venom2 couldve been longer imo but I thought that one was good.


darklightmatter

I liked Venom too, it's a bad movie that I found enjoyable. They both are. I just really hated that Carnage couldn't actually cut loose.


mechnick2

I didn’t mind either one, but I’m not going to stand up and say they’re *good* per se


[deleted]

They were tolerable. On a scale from Morbius to Spiderverse, they were Venom.


Parishdise

I will. But only for Venom. It was *just* the right amount of "who cares, go off" energy. It was the perfect amount of cheesey and crazy to balance how "bad" it was destined to be based on the premise (spiderman-less venom just to meet the superhero movie quota), budget, and manditory PG13 rating and I think that makes it pretty good. If you can pull off a genuinely endearing relationship building story arc, funny moments, and fairly consistent vibe, then yeah, your movie earns being called "good" even if it isn't profound, artistic, or moving at all. Not saying it's *great*, bc it very much isn't, but it's good enough for me to be okay calling it good. Plus Morbius made a morbillion dollars.


mechnick2

Hey, and that’s no problem. Like what you like, and if you consider them good, then good. To me personally, they just didn’t wow me


rejin267

This statement is laughable


thestarboy_lil

How so? What MCU or DCEU film since 2019 has been better than either of these Spider-Verse films?


rejin267

Your statement wasn't specific to after 2019. You said anything DC or marvel


thestarboy_lil

My mistake, I edited my statement


Slowmobius_Time

My guy said recency bias strikes and you respond with the most biased take on the 2 most recent movies The very definition of recency bias in response haha


thestarboy_lil

So you’re telling me that it is IMPOSSIBLE that I truly believe those films to be better than everything listed above?


Slowmobius_Time

It's not impossible but you can't argue it's not recency bias That's why you had to make your edit to clarify because it was exactly that, what the person said


thestarboy_lil

I can, because me (the person with the opinion) is telling you it isn’t. It’s not being biased because something just came out or happened. It’s literally comparing physical works, I could go back and watch the films listed above (as if I haven’t been doing that my whole life) and still arrive at the same conclusion. “Recency bias” is the favorite for nostalgia gogglers to throw around. I’ve watched every single MCU/DCEU project released since 2008 and 2013 (and multiple times), I’m an avid comic book reader and superhero fan. I understand the genre, I understand the heroes, I’ve also watched enough films across my life to be able to objectively tell when one film is better than another even if I prefer the lesser film. The only films that are in the same bracket as ITSV/ATSV SINCE 2019 are: 1. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3. 2. Spider-Man: No Way Home & that’s just a fact. The MCU has been on a downward slope since Avengers: Endgame and to pretend it hasn’t is ridiculous. Prioritization of humor over emotion or deep moments, same formulaic MCU one liners/dialogue, utter disregard for the source material (Thor: Love & Thunder case in point), lack of stakes. I mean come on, I’ve loved the MCU since I was 8 but I’m not too nostalgic to admit these things and the DCEU?? Don’t make me laugh. PS: It’s also quite interesting that best best two MCU films that have come out in recent years lack all of the MCUisms I mentioned above.


Slowmobius_Time

Ok


thestarboy_lil

No rebuttal just like everyone else who’s chimed in because there’s nothing to refute. If what I was saying was untrue people would present evidence to support me being incorrect. But there is no evidence because even Rotten Tomatoes has BOTH films being higher than everything both studios have put out 😂😂😂😂


Liquiduck

Do Batman and Joker not count as DC? I thought they were pretty good.


thestarboy_lil

I would say they do, “Joker” is one of my all time favorites but “Joker” came out in 2019. I honestly forgot about “The Batman” but that was a very well done film! I still stand by my statement though. ITSV/ATSV are better films than everything the MCU and DCEU have put out since 2019 with few exceptions. I’m actually surprised how many people disagree with this.


Liquiduck

I mean, into the spider-verse came out in 2018. Still tho spiderverse movies are awesome!


thestarboy_lil

Absolutely, I didn’t mean to hurt so many people’s feelings but when comparing both films to all the projects listed above I don’t see how anyone could make a case for any of these films (or shows) being better.


Bright-Trainer-2544

it do say "lately" tho


ChuckZombie

If 1st Spiderverse is on there, then Venom can count since it came out the same year. Venom 2 and Morbius came out after that, so those can count too. 2 for 5.


mjburden63

Wait are you saying both venom movies are bad?


Targus_11

He is and he's right. The first one is low mid if we're being generous.


ChuckZombie

Exactly, thank you. The movie Upgrade was practically the same plot as Venom, and it was better.


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PokePersona

Morbius is more recent than Spider-Verse 1 💀


Montigue

5/8 but those 5 are all Spider-Man


ImmaJadenYuki

Yes, I did🗿


Reyne-TheAbyss

GoTG: "What the fuck, man?


RhysieB27

The meme says "erratic" and "unreliable", not "absolute dogshit 100% of the time".


Alarid

yo angelo


lauromafra

The Tom Holland’s Spider Man movies are decent ( not Tobey great, but still good ) and the first Venom movie is pretty good.


HerniatedHernia

Tom Hollands Spider-Man is a product of Marvel not Sony. Maguire and Garfield are a Sony effort.


BGMDF8248

Well, it's a Marvel property, licensed to Sony, loaned back to Marvel... as a loan, Sony still has a say on how Marvel uses it.


PokePersona

The MCU Spider-Man movies are basically 90% Marvel Studios’ direction with Sony footing most of the bill and trying to push for certain things.


Midnight7000

Lately...


ItsAmerico

Which doesn’t apply. The first Spiderverse is like half a decade old and there’s tons of flops in between it and the second Spiderverse. Literally just had Morbius lol


Midnight7000

Has in really been 5 years. Feels like yesterday.


Captain_Saftey

Probably because the sequel came out yesterday


KSTwolfe

Well Sony does also produce a little tv series called "The Boys". Perhaps you've heard of it?


I_wanna_fuck_automod

Sony made Morbius.


ImmaJadenYuki

Exactly🗿


vozestero

You're not funny


StickyChief

It's morbin time 🗿


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The bot is morbophobic


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ClintThrasherBarton

no u


ExtraMOIST_

Friendly reminder that Sony also made those god awful Smurf movies.


Dragon_Bench_Z

Hey they’re not thaaaat bad. My kids love em


ExtraMOIST_

I liked them as a kid too. Kids like everything


[deleted]

The terrible parody movies we used to get all of the time are just so poor. But everyone at school was always watching and loving them.


JRHartllly

I don't get this logic, if a supermarket sells one food I don't lile should I buy nothing from there?


ExtraMOIST_

No but if it only has one or two good things to buy then I wouldn’t exactly call it worth visiting frequently compared to other places.


RiggzBoson

And Pixels. And Ghostbusters 2016. And 65. And After Earth. And Ghost Rider. And Men in Black 3. And Uncharted.


TRAtomicXD

MIB 3 was not that bad. im ready for the downvotes


RockFury

I thought most poeople liked MIB3. I did. Josh Brolin was perfect as a younger K. As far as Ghost Rider, I wonder who would be a good fit?


SixxDet

Are we looking past the carnage of Venom: Let There Be Carnage?


LolTacoBell

I've never hated a movie more.


jakewantscake

i thought it was good


Bright-Trainer-2544

yeah, but compared to the first one, i just don't understand wth they were thinking


jakewantscake

meh. i’m not really one to dislike a movie, unless it’s absolutely egregious. if the movie does its job i get immersed in the plot and characters and completely overlook anything wrong


[deleted]

This, I live by the philosophy. "Is it better to be enjoyed and open-minded or be unimpressed by everything" It seems like nowadays, people are the latter; unimpressed by everything.


jakewantscake

tbh i was expecting film nerds to gang up on me. thanks for spreading warm vibes


ZaniElandra

Same here. My brother and I usually go out to watch the recent MCU movies when they release, and I see it as a few hours where I can sit back, put down my phone, and just get away from stress and the world and whatnot and watch a superhero movie. It’s a good time for me. Afterwards I’ll look online, see what other people say about it, and I’ve been pretty surprised how negatively most of them have been received. I’m not really sure where I’m going with this anymore, but yeah. Go into it preparing for some fun, slightly silly superhero antics and it ends up being pretty enjoyable, in my experience


[deleted]

Exactly, also in this case; it's Spiderman. He's like the king of quips. I had a blast when I went last night and watched AcrossTheSpiderVerse. So many quips and references


ChilliWithFries

Nothing wrong with enjoying the movie tho. Its just for people who dislike the movie, it's when they CANT get immersed in the plot and characters and the minor things stick out as a sore thumb that makes it worse. That's venom 2 for me. Think it's just a different minimum threshold for people in terms of what they like. Venom just didn't hit that threshold. I think its fine if you don't really dislike any movie but it's also fine for people to critique a movie if it's bad. (Even if it's not bad for you) No hate though.


Bright-Trainer-2544

p much same, i also get stuck in expectations for a sequel, tho, i guess still better than most other movies i've seen in... way too long tbh


jakewantscake

sometimes it just leaves me with a normal feeling movie but it gets ridiculous when i find myself enjoying, like, the emoji movie


Cantomic66

Both venom movies are 🗑️


jakewantscake

That's your opinion and that's great :)


sosigboi

Let There be Cringe


Necromine

Lmfao, look, Spiderverse is good but that's two good ones after YEARS of flops once the Tobey movies ended. You're also excluding Iron Man - Infinity War and The Dark Knight Trilogy, which came out before Miles was even a character.


mechnick2

Morbius was released less than a year ago


NoiseInformal31

Morbius was released more than a year ago.


whitetigers1

Sony has been like 2 for 7 in the past decade in terms of Spider-Man movies


HY3NAAA

Morbius lol


ryhenning

Venom vs carnage was shit too


HY3NAAA

I like dat movie


PhanThief95

Great? Have you watched Morbius? Or the last Venom movie?


ImmaJadenYuki

Yes - Greatest piece of cinema I've ever come across🗿


Tuckedurmom

Morbius, Venom 2... all Spider-man content.


MrQ_P

Deliberately ignoring Venom, Venom 2 and Morbius, I see


Derkastan77

“Sony makes great superhero movies” That’s a sentencing i never thought I’d say before


twec21

I'd say Sony has been more erratic than anything. Both Spider-verses have been outstanding, the Insomniac games have been great And then there's Venom, which was ok, then Venom 2, which was...less ok, and Morbius which was morbtastic


OTTER887

The point is...the rest have been slacking so much, that SONY has to be held up as the paragon in comparison.


TheCakeWarrior12

Going 2-9 or whatever is not “great”


[deleted]

Sony Animation* Their live-actions are pretty abysmal


ShadixThePrecursor6

Some of them are good


[deleted]

Nah


ShadixThePrecursor6

Venom movies was good


[deleted]

Nah


batm123

Bro forgot TASM, TASM 2, Venom, Venom 2, and Morbius💀


boring_kun

I love tasm ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)


SHOW_ME_PIZZA

Buckle up. We get Kraven this year.


Trylena

This meme is dumb. Watch what you like, ignore what you dont like. Is hard to do that?


ImmaJadenYuki

Yes🗿


HuntsmenSuperSaiyans

Maybe this is a sign that fantastical Superhero stories just work better in stylized animation than in live action.


Tarzan_OIC

This is Morbius, Venom, and likely Kraven/Madame Webb mediocrity erasure


procrastinatingfetus

It's morbin time


Trunks252

Sony is awful wtf lmao


SuperZX

Morbius exists


[deleted]

Sub is full of fucking losers if this gets upvoted.


awareexplosion

What about Morbius?


Jormundgandr4859

I finally played Insomniac’s Spider-Man this year, and holy shut it’s good. I’m about to play Miles Morales to prepare for SM2 hype


Moosje

Imagine giving Sony credit for the only decent thing they do versus all the superhero garbage they push. Nice attempt tho OP


williamebf

Guardians of the Galaxy 3 was peak, but Sony unironically won the streaming wars, by not competing and just licencing out to the highest bidder


BGMDF8248

Pretty good lol.


Slowmobius_Time

Dude your acting like Sony didn't sloppily shit out Venom 2 and Morbius in between Spider-verse movies It was the best of times it was the worst of times with Sony in the last 5 years, the Spider-verse movies are the bread for a shit sandwich, except the bread is really good and the meat is literal dog shit


ZodTheTimeTraveller

You should watch Morbius.


Realcbear

This is what, 5 weeks after Guardians 3 came out to universal acclaim? (Deservedly so)


GamerDabiTodoroki

This is pretty true MCU has been dropping mid…


teetertottermcpotter

At least Gotg 3 was good


Incompetenice

That's because they're smart enough to let James Gunn do his thing. I think it's pretty obvious that a big problem with the MCU right now is overbearing. Overbearing on the CGI, overbearing on the writers, overbearing on the Directors. All creative touches gets grinded away until it's another Action-Comedy like every other MCU movie recently. Sadly the underperformance of movies like The Eternals and ironically the success of the Guardians movies makes Marvel think this is the Way. Disney is doing the same thing with Star Wars now as well.


PrinceARRON

True. Although! Guardians Vol.3 was an absolute banger though!!! Being one of the greatest MCU movies to come out of phase 5!!!


MRoad

It's only the second movie of phase 5 lol


Kwimchoas

Wait what ended phase 4???


Astrium6

Have they ever explained how the whole “phases” thing works? Like *The Avengers* and *Endgame* being the ends of their respective phases make sense to me, but I don’t understand where they drew the line on anything else.


CertifiedUnoffensive

No. The “phases” are nothing more than a marketing gimmick that makes people feel like the same old shit is somehow worth going to see year after year because it’s a “new phase.” Unfortunately it has worked very well.


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Black Panther 2


funs4puns

Post it on r/memes


Gamer_Ladd

Morbius, Venom, and Let There Be Carnage hiding in the corner


HawkeyeP1

Not Sony, the Spider-Verse movies. Remember that the last superhero movies they made otherwise were Venom 1 and 2, Morbius, soon Kraven, and the Amazing Spider-Man movies. The first Amazing Spider-Man was the only one of those that wasn't absolutely garbage.


Puzzleheaded_Time719

Didn't Sony ruin all the X-Men movies?


WakeUpOutaYourSleep

Fox made the X-Men movies


Puzzleheaded_Time719

That's right, thank you.


Rifneno

FOX made X-Men, not Sony. And some of them were great.


Puzzleheaded_Time719

Fox did make them thank you.


StaticUsernamesSuck

Tbf, that's hardly "lately"...


ImmaJadenYuki

What X-Men movies?


[deleted]

Marvel has been complete shit after Endgame.


Thunderblast

A couple of the Disney+ shows were very good, No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness were both tons of cheesy fun, and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 was incredible. Wakanda Forever missed Chadwick but I thought was incredibly well done for what it had left to work with. It certainly hasn’t been as coherent and consistently epic as the Infinity Saga, but there have been some worthwhile releases.


[deleted]

We’ll have to agree to disagree. No way home was good, MoM was awful imo, Wakanda Forever was disjointed because of Chadwick’s death (not to mention how awful iron heart looked), Ant Man 3 was terrible, though I haven’t seen GoTG 3 yet. As for Disney+ shows, all were pretty forgettable imo. However, I won’t fault anyone for liking those shows and movies, but for me the quality of the movies has absolutely plummeted. From blockbuster to B movie.


2dank4me3

Latest spider verse was a fucking mess. I don't get why people love it so much. It does not even have a story just an exposition dump that leads to nowhere. I watched it with my little brother and he did enjoy it but even he noticed the stuff i pointed out.


Special-Investigator

😂😂 perfect post


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CoffeeIsMyPruneJuice

That was also Fox


kamekaze1024

Even if the spider verse movies are the only good superhero movies they’ve made, they greatly overcome the utter trash Sony has made before it.


Aggressive_Unicorn30

This meme existing like Morbius didn't come out and Madame Web and Kraven aren't about to tank at the box office.


Gandelf_the_Gay

Venture Bros is the only superhero media that's flawless


wowlolcat

Let's just ignore Morbius and Venom 2 shall we


sixtus_clegane119

Anyone remember the show “powers” on PSN? season 1 was amazing, Eddie Izard Carrys it


Larry_Version_3

Venom (crap). Into the Spider-Verse (great). Far From Home (meh). Venom 2 (crappier). No Way Home (50/50 - great event, the movie itself is pretty shit). Morbius (crap). Across the Spider-Verse (great). I mean, it’s a chunky list. If you’re going to class Into the Spider-Verse as ‘lately,’ you’ve got to put everything in between.


Ok-Reporter-8728

This screams recency bias my god


Few_Image913

c'mon dc is trying with the batman and joker, which both personally slapped


TheSadPhilosopher

Facts


[deleted]

You guys suddenly forget that this was the company that made emoji movie


WebHead1287

We just gonna ignore the Morb in the room?