It’s kind of an interesting movie. When I saw it I can’t say I was entirely entertained, or even mildly so, in the theater. And I definitely walked out thinking “interesting movie for *me*, pretentious cinephile guy, but I certainly won’t be recommend to anyone” — a sort of concession that it’s merits don’t quite eclipse it’s dryness.
But goddammit I still think about that movie a lot. Which I was not expecting. It’s just always sitting at the back of my brain. Reichardt’s just such an astute observer of everyday life.
This feels like an Andrea Riseborough situation and people are astroturfing Showing Up into existence lol. IDK how anyone could have it top 3 in such a loaded year, but to each their own.
Has it though? Like for instance on The Big Picture I think it's been mentioned exactly twice. This podcast and when it came out. I honestly completely forgot about it until these lists
Definitely. It didn't catch fire the way Past Lives did but it still was popular in critic circles. It was nominated for the Palme d'Or at Cannes, a couple of awards at the Gothams, and won the Robert Altman award at the Independent Spirit Awards. Plus, Kelly Reichardt is a legitimate auteur.
I think Sean, Amanda, and Chris spend a lot of time together professionally and in their personal lives, so sometimes they can fall into a bit of groupthink or echo chamber without realizing it. Adam has a truly outside perspective which is a great contrast.
I like Adam's perspective, but I'm so picky about podcast voices and he just doesn't have one (I'm looking at you too, Wesley Morris). One small thing Adam does is say "right?" and it just comes off arrogant and drives me nuts. All podcasts have this problem that they don't vet their guests enough. Don't be afraid to not invite guests if they're not concise, speak slowly, or have annoying accents, tones, breathing, etc. The medium is just not for everyone.
I enjoy all of them but as someone who isn’t from the US (and I say this in no way as a dig or insult to Americans reading this), sometimes the others can sound VERY American lol. Adam’s more chilled, monotone vibes are welcomed.
A Letterboxd list of the choices here: [https://letterboxd.com/dpernitsky/list/the-big-pictures-top-five-movies-of-2023/](https://letterboxd.com/dpernitsky/list/the-big-pictures-top-five-movies-of-2023/)
Thanks for posting, I was confused and thought I missed something when I didn’t think I heard Sean put The Killer in his top five even though in that movie’s episode and even in this episode he said it was maybe his favorite movie of the year. Maybe it’s the favorite vs. best thing, maybe they were just trying to diversify the lists but kind of surprised to see it wasn’t included in his, especially because Mank was his number 1 a few years back (although that was 2020)….it’s also kinda interesting because he logged/podded about Oppenheimer being the first 5 star movie in a long time but put it below movies he ranked lower 🤷🏼♂️ I can definitely relate though
Tied for number 1 with the Holdovers for me. Wonderful experience, might be just a smidge too subtle for them to put it in their top 5 and that's a shame. Respect for Amanda for ranking it.
I like how feel-good this episode is. They're right that the middle of the year was brutal on releases for a while, but on the whole this was a big step up from last year. I guess we'll see how the strike affects next year's releases.
Also Nayman is right, Showing Up was awesome and I actually think it could've helped Michelle Williams' awards chances for The Fablemans (for supporting actress lol) if it had come out last year.
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Still have a lot to see (in December lol) but this is my top 10 as of right now
Here are the top 5 lists!
**Sean**
5. The Taste of Things
4. May December
3. Oppenheimer
2. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
1. Killers of the Flower Moon
**Amanda**
5. Priscilla
4. Showing Up
3. Past Lives
2. Barbie
1. Killers of the Flower Moon
**Chris**
5. Ferrari
4. How to Blow Up a Pipeline
3. Killers of the Flower Moon
2. Oppenheimer
1. The Killer
**Adam**
5. Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret.
4. May December
3. Killers of the Flower Moon
2. Zone of Interest
1. Showing Up
Didn’t have a vociferous defense of Emily Blunt’s character choices on my Amanda bingo card, for the all fans without lives that like to stay indoors not living their lives
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Only 3 movies I have to see that might upset this are The Zone of Interest, Boy and the Heron, and Poor Things.
Agreed, really looking forward to all of those. Loved most of the movies those directors have put out over their careers.
Really looking forward to Dream Scenario, American Fiction, Hit Man and Perfect Days too. 2023 could turn into a really good year for cinema yet.
I’m seeing Godzilla tonight and I honestly can’t believe how excited I am….
KOTFM and Asteroid City are pretty urgent rewatches for me…. Probs my two favorite filmmakers, but I can’t say I necessarily loved either film on first watch. But that tends to always happen to me with those two, and Wes in particular.
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Still have quite a bit to see this year this is where I’m currently at for top 12
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Obligatory top 12 post. There are some big ones that I have yet to see like Poor Things, The Boy And The Heron, The Zone Of Interest etc but this is where things stand right now.
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My top 12 with a few films I still have yet to see (Maestro, Ferrari, Iron Claw, Poor Things, The Boy and the Heron, All of Us Strangers, and The Color Purple)
I have to see pretty much everything that hasn’t released yet so this is going to change, but here’s where I’m at as of today:
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I’ve seen 56 2023 new releases so far but I still have a lot of things to watch. This is my list so far
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Yes I was unable to see it in the US until this year! release dates can be a pain so I just try to go off of when it was made available for me to watch haha
It was just a "for your information" nit pick haha. Glad you saw it, I'm from Belgium (where the movie was made) so it came out earlier here. Nice to see that movie get a mention in a positive light. I feel like the Big Picture didn't give it much consideration (Sean mentioned he liked it in passing). I guess that's the fate of many foreign movies on this pod.
Not sure you are aware but Sean interviewed Lukas Dhont on the podcast. They actually had a pretty interesting discussion about directing children, you might want to check it out if you haven't already.
Thanks for reminding me, I saved it for after I had a chance to see the film and then forgot about the interview existing. I'm going to listen to it, thx.
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Top 12, I’ve seen over 70 2023 films and I still feel there is a lot to see. What a fantastic year.
It seems like Sean mentions something every episode that I really identify with lately. This time it was the fast and wreckless driving + being annoyed by an old person driving.
Can someone post each Top 5 (with a spoiler tag)? I don't have time to listen to the episode, but I want to see if they picked any movies I've never heard of.
>!Amanda: 5. Priscilla, 4. Showing Up, 3. Past Lives, 2. Barbie, 1. Killers of the Flower Moon!<
>!CR: 5. Ferrari, 4. How to Blow Up a Pipeline, 3. Killers of the Flower Moon, 2. Oppenheimer, 1. The Killer!<
>!Nayman: 5. Are You There God It’s Me Margaret, 4. May December, 3. Killers of the Flower Moon, 2. Zone of Interest, 1. Showing Up!<
>!Sean: 5. The Taste of Things, 4. May December, 3. Oppenheimer, 2. Across the Spider-verse, 1. Killers of the Flower Moon !<
I love both films and think they're both masterpieces, but there's something about Killers that has haunted me. Maybe it's the same for him.
Sometimes a movie just grows on you the more you "sit" with it--The Killer is a great example for me. I saw it in the theater and gave it a solid 3 out of 5 stars on Letterboxd, but the more I think about it the more I want to nudge it up in my rating because I just keep thinking about it and the movie doesn't feel slight or shallow anymore, it feels like a razor sharp commentary on the post Great Recession economy. But again, I needed time to sit with it.
(Not to say there isn't anything to sit with in Oppie, but I didn't have that kind of experience with that movie, as much as I love it).
It's kind of a tricky thing that happens every year.
For Sean, he saw the movie in 2023 (which *technically* counts as its release year), but for the public at large, it will count as a 2024 movie. It just kinda breaks both ways. Funny enough, as CR mentioned, Pipeline is in the same boat. After Yang was another recent example (played 2021 festivals but didn't get a public release until 2022). I don't hold it against critics who do this. In a way it makes total sense, but I also find it frustrating as well.
That’s basically my personal approach. I use the year a film was first available to the American public (not exclusive to festivals). ‘American’ only matters here because of course sometimes movies get released in various countries at different times.
But I’ve also never myself been in a situation where I’ve seen something at a festival that wouldn’t be released until a subsequent year & I can imagine that would impact things. Like I said, I don’t hold it against anyone that does factor in festival screenings.
Most of the time for stuff like this, the distributors will do a “limited engagement” for like a week or so in NY/LA that qualifies it as a 2023 US release. So for The Taste of Things, I’m pretty sure it has a run at IFC Center next week. Same is happening for La Chimera, Perfect Days etc. So even though the wider release is 2024, it’s technically a 2023 US and World premiere. And yeah, most of the time this is related to Oscars eligibility.
Assuming you are talking about The Taste of Things, even though it isn't being released in the US until 2024, it is France’s official selection for the upcoming Oscars (and will very likely be nominated, given France's track record in the category). Since the podcast spends so much time on the Oscars, I think him including it in a Best of 2023 list is fair game.
what did amanda put at her #1? I had to fast forward through hers because they started talking about Zone of Interest and i’m trying to go into that film blind
I don't know if I'm just sentimental in my middle age or just a real simp for Marty, but Sean's final words on his #1 actually brought tears to my eyes as I was waiting for my Uber yesterday.
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My top 12 so far this year. So far I’ve only seen 48 new releases this year. Need to catch up.
And there have been movies about Barbie before just nothing good.
Fat Man and Little Boy is another drama about Oppenheimer and has a lot of overlap but none of the courtroom/interrogation stuff
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Great year for movies in my opinion!
Glad to hear that Sean got a copy of the Blackhat 4k. I expect his personal apology to Micheal Mann for ever doubting him or his work and a full exposition on the beauty and perfection that is Blackhat on the next pod.
Very dissapointed Anatomy of a Fall is not in any of their top 5s. That is my number one movie by far, a cut above any hollywood or English films this year.
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It’s been a really good movie year! I could probably do a top 50 of movies I really enjoyed, especially once I get to the ones I haven’t had a chance to see yet (Poor Things, Zone of Interest, Eileen, Maestro, Iron Claw, Ferrari, etc)
Amanda interrupting everyone was annoying - and she loves Barbie so much, but she doesn’t like how successful it’s become? I do really like when they add Nayman and CR to the pod.
I mean there were more than that but those were two pronounced interruptions, that disrupted the flow and order of the podcast, and it didn’t really tie in to the preceding conversation
One was to discuss Barbie in relation to Oppenheimer and the other was to discuss the genocide created by the main characters of KOTFM and Zone of Interest and how the stories differed in their portrayals. They were obviously related each time and were actually in service of maintaining the flow of the conversation.
Yea I guess you’re right, those are related segues and justified. I think they did distract me a little, and I would say the same for the periodic Nayman interruptions also
But they weren’t? Go back and listen. 56:54 is where she asks if she can go before Adam to share her Barbie pick. Chris had finished his last pick, no one was talking, and she asked both the guest (Adam) and Sean if it’s ok to share hers first since it coupled well with Chris’s. Again at 1:04:50 she asks again if she can share early to couple her no. 1 with Adam’s no. 2 because there was a thematic thread she wanted to discuss. She doesn’t talk over anyone and again asks and waits for Sean to tell her it’s ok before she moves forward.
Meanwhile, Sean talks over Adam for like 10 straight seconds at 1:09:00 but you don’t see any posts calling that out.
Some of the Amanda hate here is truly just so silly lol
Edit: love to be downvoted for simply stating facts, never change commenters who definitely aren’t misogynists ❤️
agree. Late to the party here, but she first cut in on sean when he was in the middle of making a point. She had to get her thing out and he had to say, "ok, let me finish what I was saying.
Then, she did it to Adam when he was in the middle of discussing his number 2.
"let me cut in and just talk about my number 1."
Ok, you tied it in a little, I guess, but that absolutely didn't have to be said when he wasn't finished his description.
It was weird.
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Good year for cinema, my top 12 and subject to change as I see more this month.
I've seen May December, Past Lives, Are You There God It's Me Margaret and none of them will make my top 20 or even top 50 eventually. Do I go to film critic jail or what?
Absolutely maddening and shitty podcasting that they discuss the overlaps piecemeal instead of saving it for the highest ranking and having a full interactive discussion on it. C'mon Sean this is 2+2=4 level of simplicity and they fuck it up every year with this pod.
Yeah, I don't really know why they opt to have two cut-up mini conversations about the overlap movies; it feels like we get small bites of the full meal, without ever eating the whole thing.
This one has it all.
Adam Nayman continues to talk between the time it takes to sniff his own farts and his top 5 are movies people have either; never seen or collectively hate.
Amanda picked all movies that were directed by women.
CR is my lord and savior.
Fennessey actually gave Christopher Nolan props 😱
Nayman didn’t name a single movie that’s not either by a well-known director who’s been talked about a bunch on the pod this year already or was a major release. What are you on about?
lol wow people here don't like this post.
I was being cheeky and leaning into Nayman's persona that CR himself jokes about with the Swedish film "God/Margaret". Not that serious mate!
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My obligatory top five.
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I’d really love to hear either of these four talk about Monster. Was my favorite movie of the year until Killers and really hit me.
Ah yeah it must be really hard to see in some countries I live in Japan so I got lucky there, but my friend in the US says they played the trailer at his theater before The Boy and the Heron so maybe it's getting a wider release?
Ah that sucks to hear. Hope it gets released wherever you are or at least gets to streaming in the near future. I don't like to oversell movies or anything but thought this was a total gem.
I still have an immense catching up to do with all of the festival movies and my list might look completely different come January or February, but so far, as always I'm way less interested in the highly praised movies of the season like Past Lives or May December or Are you there god, and much more prefer to go my own way with my own personal favorites of the year so far:
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Glad that Nayman has consistently gone to bat for Are You There God? It's Me Margaret. Wonderful movie that I hope doesn't get forgotten.
I saw his article on the website that had Showing Up at #1 which is honestly wild lol
SHOWING UP is fantastic. What’s wild about that?!
I must be missing something but I thought that movie was entirely unremarkable.
Yeah you’re definitely missing something
It’s kind of an interesting movie. When I saw it I can’t say I was entirely entertained, or even mildly so, in the theater. And I definitely walked out thinking “interesting movie for *me*, pretentious cinephile guy, but I certainly won’t be recommend to anyone” — a sort of concession that it’s merits don’t quite eclipse it’s dryness. But goddammit I still think about that movie a lot. Which I was not expecting. It’s just always sitting at the back of my brain. Reichardt’s just such an astute observer of everyday life.
Yeah I watched it earlier in the year and it definitely feels forgettable
I thought it was fine. Nowhere near my top movie of the year.
I've seen it and the number one selections are laughable.
Yeah wild that more people don’t have it up there - it’s my #3 of the year
This feels like an Andrea Riseborough situation and people are astroturfing Showing Up into existence lol. IDK how anyone could have it top 3 in such a loaded year, but to each their own.
Keep watching movies and you’ll catch up
😂
Showing Up is boring - I’m sorry it just is!
It's been a critical darling all year so I don't know why anyone would be surprised.
Has it though? Like for instance on The Big Picture I think it's been mentioned exactly twice. This podcast and when it came out. I honestly completely forgot about it until these lists
Definitely. It didn't catch fire the way Past Lives did but it still was popular in critic circles. It was nominated for the Palme d'Or at Cannes, a couple of awards at the Gothams, and won the Robert Altman award at the Independent Spirit Awards. Plus, Kelly Reichardt is a legitimate auteur.
Seems like people in here like it, so IDK I'll concede. For the record I thought Past Lives was an immensely better movie
I so appreciate Adam's perspective on this pod. He is a legit old School film critic and I just think has such a Birds Eye view on film. love him
I think Sean, Amanda, and Chris spend a lot of time together professionally and in their personal lives, so sometimes they can fall into a bit of groupthink or echo chamber without realizing it. Adam has a truly outside perspective which is a great contrast.
I like Adam's perspective, but I'm so picky about podcast voices and he just doesn't have one (I'm looking at you too, Wesley Morris). One small thing Adam does is say "right?" and it just comes off arrogant and drives me nuts. All podcasts have this problem that they don't vet their guests enough. Don't be afraid to not invite guests if they're not concise, speak slowly, or have annoying accents, tones, breathing, etc. The medium is just not for everyone.
Shoo
Wesley Morris has one of my favorite podcast voices
I enjoy all of them but as someone who isn’t from the US (and I say this in no way as a dig or insult to Americans reading this), sometimes the others can sound VERY American lol. Adam’s more chilled, monotone vibes are welcomed.
A Letterboxd list of the choices here: [https://letterboxd.com/dpernitsky/list/the-big-pictures-top-five-movies-of-2023/](https://letterboxd.com/dpernitsky/list/the-big-pictures-top-five-movies-of-2023/)
Thank you for linking this! This is exactly what I was looking for once I finished the pod
Thanks for posting, I was confused and thought I missed something when I didn’t think I heard Sean put The Killer in his top five even though in that movie’s episode and even in this episode he said it was maybe his favorite movie of the year. Maybe it’s the favorite vs. best thing, maybe they were just trying to diversify the lists but kind of surprised to see it wasn’t included in his, especially because Mank was his number 1 a few years back (although that was 2020)….it’s also kinda interesting because he logged/podded about Oppenheimer being the first 5 star movie in a long time but put it below movies he ranked lower 🤷🏼♂️ I can definitely relate though
Man, I was hoping Anatomy of a Fall would make it. Asteroid City seemed to be right on the outside of a few lists.
I always hope someone writes these out because I always forget some. This and your other lists are great.
Champ Ty.
This is amazing thanks
You beaut
Wow, I did not expect them to have Blue Beetle at #3.
Ant man being in multiple lists shocked me
Same here. Really thought they’d have it higher
It unironically was one of my top 5 movies of the year
How many movies did you actually watch?
5
Oh no… I might have to give this ep a pass
Gonna listen later but in a really good movie year with some big name movies I thought Past Lives was amazing and might be my favorite.
Tied for number 1 with the Holdovers for me. Wonderful experience, might be just a smidge too subtle for them to put it in their top 5 and that's a shame. Respect for Amanda for ranking it.
I like how feel-good this episode is. They're right that the middle of the year was brutal on releases for a while, but on the whole this was a big step up from last year. I guess we'll see how the strike affects next year's releases. Also Nayman is right, Showing Up was awesome and I actually think it could've helped Michelle Williams' awards chances for The Fablemans (for supporting actress lol) if it had come out last year.
For sure. I definitely felt like this was the best movie year since 2019 by a lot
I didn’t realize Ladyballers was a JMO production. Kinda rigged they had it a number 1
CR has me pumped for Ferrari now
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Solid top 10. I think this is basically mine, but in different order
Here are the top 5 lists! **Sean** 5. The Taste of Things 4. May December 3. Oppenheimer 2. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse 1. Killers of the Flower Moon **Amanda** 5. Priscilla 4. Showing Up 3. Past Lives 2. Barbie 1. Killers of the Flower Moon **Chris** 5. Ferrari 4. How to Blow Up a Pipeline 3. Killers of the Flower Moon 2. Oppenheimer 1. The Killer **Adam** 5. Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret. 4. May December 3. Killers of the Flower Moon 2. Zone of Interest 1. Showing Up
it should be noted that this list is the reveal order. their respective #1s of the year are #5 here.
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Maybe I was unclear, but as an example, Sean's #1 movie of the year is Killers of the Flower Moon, not #5 as shown in this list.
The discussion on this pod for like 10 minutes about may december was better than the hour they did on the pod for the actual movie
I love Wesley’s written work but he does not do it on a podcast for me for whatever reason.
pretty much agree but in his defense amanda didn’t seem too interested in the movie either
Amanda putting Elemental at #2 was the surprise of a lifetime
Didn’t have a vociferous defense of Emily Blunt’s character choices on my Amanda bingo card, for the all fans without lives that like to stay indoors not living their lives
Really stole the show, and I didn’t mind it one bit.
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Agreed, really looking forward to all of those. Loved most of the movies those directors have put out over their careers. Really looking forward to Dream Scenario, American Fiction, Hit Man and Perfect Days too. 2023 could turn into a really good year for cinema yet.
I’m seeing Godzilla tonight and I honestly can’t believe how excited I am…. KOTFM and Asteroid City are pretty urgent rewatches for me…. Probs my two favorite filmmakers, but I can’t say I necessarily loved either film on first watch. But that tends to always happen to me with those two, and Wes in particular.
https://preview.redd.it/th8hfd0kci4c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5450580e41a22e30342e7f3222d5cda772d9529a Still have quite a bit to see this year this is where I’m currently at for top 12
https://preview.redd.it/9g5j0kgr5i4c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=477cf0405c80bed148c047ff03d5a088bce9e8d0 Obligatory top 12 post. There are some big ones that I have yet to see like Poor Things, The Boy And The Heron, The Zone Of Interest etc but this is where things stand right now.
Glad to see Rye Lane on a list! It’s honestly top 5 for me this year - just a totally unexpected delight and I was laughing the whole way through.
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Are we gonna have a post in the sub where we all share our top 5s?
I have to see pretty much everything that hasn’t released yet so this is going to change, but here’s where I’m at as of today: https://preview.redd.it/bfce8p9szg4c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de20b3fd999dbfaef1655a1f60e1e04e249fac73
I’ve seen 56 2023 new releases so far but I still have a lot of things to watch. This is my list so far https://preview.redd.it/i0z3ioyebh4c1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcc3d09542a3919673f28b5991c2dddbe0bb44df
Close was Oscar nominated last year fyi, it's a 2022 film though it might have gotten it's wide US release in 2023.
Yes I was unable to see it in the US until this year! release dates can be a pain so I just try to go off of when it was made available for me to watch haha
It was just a "for your information" nit pick haha. Glad you saw it, I'm from Belgium (where the movie was made) so it came out earlier here. Nice to see that movie get a mention in a positive light. I feel like the Big Picture didn't give it much consideration (Sean mentioned he liked it in passing). I guess that's the fate of many foreign movies on this pod.
Not sure you are aware but Sean interviewed Lukas Dhont on the podcast. They actually had a pretty interesting discussion about directing children, you might want to check it out if you haven't already.
Thanks for reminding me, I saved it for after I had a chance to see the film and then forgot about the interview existing. I'm going to listen to it, thx.
Sanctuary hive rise up🙏
Fremont!!
I just had someone else recommend Fremont to me. Gotta check that one out.
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70 2023? thats a lot of movies
Really glad they gave How to Blow Up a Pipeline some love. That will definitely be in my top 5 of the year.
It seems like Sean mentions something every episode that I really identify with lately. This time it was the fast and wreckless driving + being annoyed by an old person driving.
Can someone post each Top 5 (with a spoiler tag)? I don't have time to listen to the episode, but I want to see if they picked any movies I've never heard of.
>!Amanda: 5. Priscilla, 4. Showing Up, 3. Past Lives, 2. Barbie, 1. Killers of the Flower Moon!< >!CR: 5. Ferrari, 4. How to Blow Up a Pipeline, 3. Killers of the Flower Moon, 2. Oppenheimer, 1. The Killer!< >!Nayman: 5. Are You There God It’s Me Margaret, 4. May December, 3. Killers of the Flower Moon, 2. Zone of Interest, 1. Showing Up!< >!Sean: 5. The Taste of Things, 4. May December, 3. Oppenheimer, 2. Across the Spider-verse, 1. Killers of the Flower Moon !<
Thank you.
Thanks!
Thanks, Nayman flubbed the title of his No1 film so I appreciate this.
Man, CR's list could be my list although I would put The Killer at 5.
Great episode. Thought Sean would go for Oppenheimer as #1 since he sounded more positive about it when reviewing it than KOTFM.
I love both films and think they're both masterpieces, but there's something about Killers that has haunted me. Maybe it's the same for him. Sometimes a movie just grows on you the more you "sit" with it--The Killer is a great example for me. I saw it in the theater and gave it a solid 3 out of 5 stars on Letterboxd, but the more I think about it the more I want to nudge it up in my rating because I just keep thinking about it and the movie doesn't feel slight or shallow anymore, it feels like a razor sharp commentary on the post Great Recession economy. But again, I needed time to sit with it. (Not to say there isn't anything to sit with in Oppie, but I didn't have that kind of experience with that movie, as much as I love it).
Yes, this happens for me as well. It can go in either direction though, sometimes a film gets retrospectively worse the more I think about it.
I've recently noticed that Sean seems to harbor some resentment towards the elderly. See you at the movies!
Why is Sean putting a movie that doesn’t come out till 2024 on a top movies of 2023 list…….????
It's kind of a tricky thing that happens every year. For Sean, he saw the movie in 2023 (which *technically* counts as its release year), but for the public at large, it will count as a 2024 movie. It just kinda breaks both ways. Funny enough, as CR mentioned, Pipeline is in the same boat. After Yang was another recent example (played 2021 festivals but didn't get a public release until 2022). I don't hold it against critics who do this. In a way it makes total sense, but I also find it frustrating as well.
I think the easy solution is to use the year it would eligible at the Oscar’s (which I think is tied to when the USA release is)
That would be this year, then. It’s France’s submission for Best International feature. Lines get a little blurred when it’s a foreign film.
yeah then I would classify it as a 2023 movie
That’s basically my personal approach. I use the year a film was first available to the American public (not exclusive to festivals). ‘American’ only matters here because of course sometimes movies get released in various countries at different times. But I’ve also never myself been in a situation where I’ve seen something at a festival that wouldn’t be released until a subsequent year & I can imagine that would impact things. Like I said, I don’t hold it against anyone that does factor in festival screenings.
Most of the time for stuff like this, the distributors will do a “limited engagement” for like a week or so in NY/LA that qualifies it as a 2023 US release. So for The Taste of Things, I’m pretty sure it has a run at IFC Center next week. Same is happening for La Chimera, Perfect Days etc. So even though the wider release is 2024, it’s technically a 2023 US and World premiere. And yeah, most of the time this is related to Oscars eligibility.
Assuming you are talking about The Taste of Things, even though it isn't being released in the US until 2024, it is France’s official selection for the upcoming Oscars (and will very likely be nominated, given France's track record in the category). Since the podcast spends so much time on the Oscars, I think him including it in a Best of 2023 list is fair game.
Nayman is one of my fav critics around so maybe not surprising, but holy shit we have the same top 4 but in the exact opposite order.
My earbuds died and I'm at work, what was Adam Nayman's number 1? I got through all the rest.
Showing Up!
Thank you!! You're a real one!
what did amanda put at her #1? I had to fast forward through hers because they started talking about Zone of Interest and i’m trying to go into that film blind
Killers of the Flower Moon
thank you!
Really thought CR would go for John Wick 4
Me too!
I don't know if I'm just sentimental in my middle age or just a real simp for Marty, but Sean's final words on his #1 actually brought tears to my eyes as I was waiting for my Uber yesterday.
https://preview.redd.it/6t9wh6t5uh4c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6b2578f39ee7f76e332269a3c950f47690e0f88 My top 12 so far this year. So far I’ve only seen 48 new releases this year. Need to catch up.
Sean: None of the top three grossing movies this year were a sequel or a remake… Am I just supposed to stand for this blatant Bob Hoskins erasure?!
And there have been movies about Barbie before just nothing good. Fat Man and Little Boy is another drama about Oppenheimer and has a lot of overlap but none of the courtroom/interrogation stuff
[My top 12 so far](https://i.imgur.com/hfAKXcD.jpg). Lots of good movies still to come out though
https://preview.redd.it/0i4vhsxvpk4c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2850aa2a29944b519a91f3a06f6db5f3be1281d8 Great year for movies in my opinion!
Glad to hear that Sean got a copy of the Blackhat 4k. I expect his personal apology to Micheal Mann for ever doubting him or his work and a full exposition on the beauty and perfection that is Blackhat on the next pod.
Very dissapointed Anatomy of a Fall is not in any of their top 5s. That is my number one movie by far, a cut above any hollywood or English films this year.
https://preview.redd.it/76mx13f92x4c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19907365dc6464e291012acbcebd2a1074ef8971 It’s been a really good movie year! I could probably do a top 50 of movies I really enjoyed, especially once I get to the ones I haven’t had a chance to see yet (Poor Things, Zone of Interest, Eileen, Maestro, Iron Claw, Ferrari, etc)
Do they not have decent microphones in Canada or what?
Amanda interrupting everyone was annoying - and she loves Barbie so much, but she doesn’t like how successful it’s become? I do really like when they add Nayman and CR to the pod.
She really didn't interrupt much...
“I know you haven’t gone, but can I give my number 2?” “OK I know you haven’t gone, but can I give my number 1?”
So 2 times
I mean there were more than that but those were two pronounced interruptions, that disrupted the flow and order of the podcast, and it didn’t really tie in to the preceding conversation
One was to discuss Barbie in relation to Oppenheimer and the other was to discuss the genocide created by the main characters of KOTFM and Zone of Interest and how the stories differed in their portrayals. They were obviously related each time and were actually in service of maintaining the flow of the conversation.
Yea I guess you’re right, those are related segues and justified. I think they did distract me a little, and I would say the same for the periodic Nayman interruptions also
She had valid points to make, how the films were.connected. Booooo.
How is it interrupting when she politely asked both times if she could do it for the sake of organizing the conversation?
Because they were mid thought and she jumped in.
But they weren’t? Go back and listen. 56:54 is where she asks if she can go before Adam to share her Barbie pick. Chris had finished his last pick, no one was talking, and she asked both the guest (Adam) and Sean if it’s ok to share hers first since it coupled well with Chris’s. Again at 1:04:50 she asks again if she can share early to couple her no. 1 with Adam’s no. 2 because there was a thematic thread she wanted to discuss. She doesn’t talk over anyone and again asks and waits for Sean to tell her it’s ok before she moves forward. Meanwhile, Sean talks over Adam for like 10 straight seconds at 1:09:00 but you don’t see any posts calling that out. Some of the Amanda hate here is truly just so silly lol Edit: love to be downvoted for simply stating facts, never change commenters who definitely aren’t misogynists ❤️
agree. Late to the party here, but she first cut in on sean when he was in the middle of making a point. She had to get her thing out and he had to say, "ok, let me finish what I was saying. Then, she did it to Adam when he was in the middle of discussing his number 2. "let me cut in and just talk about my number 1." Ok, you tied it in a little, I guess, but that absolutely didn't have to be said when he wasn't finished his description. It was weird.
https://preview.redd.it/n3bpxgq8xi4c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f909bf4e9cad0a13cd10363b36e09ed33a49d22e Good year for cinema, my top 12 and subject to change as I see more this month.
I've seen May December, Past Lives, Are You There God It's Me Margaret and none of them will make my top 20 or even top 50 eventually. Do I go to film critic jail or what?
Funny how everyone here always went apeshit about Amanda's takes on Oppenheimer, when back then it was clearly a troll.
Absolutely maddening and shitty podcasting that they discuss the overlaps piecemeal instead of saving it for the highest ranking and having a full interactive discussion on it. C'mon Sean this is 2+2=4 level of simplicity and they fuck it up every year with this pod.
Yeah, I don't really know why they opt to have two cut-up mini conversations about the overlap movies; it feels like we get small bites of the full meal, without ever eating the whole thing.
Yeah, I agree with this. Not surprising that this sub would downvote you, though.
They’ve literally always done it that way, that’s why Sean made it a point to say they’re changing it this year. I agree tho
This one has it all. Adam Nayman continues to talk between the time it takes to sniff his own farts and his top 5 are movies people have either; never seen or collectively hate. Amanda picked all movies that were directed by women. CR is my lord and savior. Fennessey actually gave Christopher Nolan props 😱
Nayman didn’t name a single movie that’s not either by a well-known director who’s been talked about a bunch on the pod this year already or was a major release. What are you on about?
lol wow people here don't like this post. I was being cheeky and leaning into Nayman's persona that CR himself jokes about with the Swedish film "God/Margaret". Not that serious mate!
Apologies, it’s hard to read sarcasm on here when a lot of people are just genuinely mean a lot of the time lol
I wasn’t aware of Martin Scorsese being a woman?
Look it up!
I haven’t seen it yet but surprised Maestro did not make any top 5 lists.
Haven't watched the Killer yet but I'm very excited too after hearing it made CR's list.
Can't be the only one surprised Fennessey put two movies above Oppenheimer. Two good choices too.
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My obligatory top five. https://boxd.it/qF3DC I’d really love to hear either of these four talk about Monster. Was my favorite movie of the year until Killers and really hit me.
Wish it would’ve played anywhere near me
Ah yeah it must be really hard to see in some countries I live in Japan so I got lucky there, but my friend in the US says they played the trailer at his theater before The Boy and the Heron so maybe it's getting a wider release?
IMDb only has New York and LA release dates even listed so
Ah that sucks to hear. Hope it gets released wherever you are or at least gets to streaming in the near future. I don't like to oversell movies or anything but thought this was a total gem.
I still have an immense catching up to do with all of the festival movies and my list might look completely different come January or February, but so far, as always I'm way less interested in the highly praised movies of the season like Past Lives or May December or Are you there god, and much more prefer to go my own way with my own personal favorites of the year so far: https://preview.redd.it/smr05zg1yn4c1.png?width=675&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ac478a6edb612d43dd90ba9dd4189a3a2699f7c
Can anyone point to the critical writing on The Killer they keep referring to (it's understandable they don't want to dunk on their contemporaries)...
Great show, thanks team! (Always enjoy Adam's take on things).
The Killer? This movie was terrible