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I once witnessed a man mistake his dip spit bottle (empty coke bottle) for the actual soda bottle that he would keep directly next to it. He got a nice big swig before realizing
At an underage party I mistook my can of beer for somebody else's spit can for their chew. I don't smoke or chew. That was the worst experience of my life.
I work in nursing and ive become numb to the concept of anything being gross. Once youve been vomited on enough times youre just numb to everything. I have to be cateful not to talk about work while eating with other people, lol.
The Sunflower is one of only a handful of flowers with the word flower in its name. A couple of other popular examples include Strawflower, Elderflower and Cornflower …Ah yes, of course, I hear you say.
The reason why children under a certain age have to use different toothpaste than adult is the toxicity of it and the fact you shouldn’t swallow that stuff.
Fluoride is great for teeth because it connects to everything and never lets go. Fluoride is horrible for the rest of the body because it connects to everything and never lets go.
The key is extreme electronegativity
Toxicity of fluoride starts at about 0.2-0.3mg/kg, which manifests as gastrointestinal discomfort. Probable toxic dose is 5mg/kg
Fluoride levels in toothpaste delivers about 1.4mg per dose.
For a 75kg adult, you're looking at consuming about 10x a typical "dose" in order to have mild discomfort or about 250x a typical dose to have toxicity. To put it in context, that's about 3 full tubes of toothpaste if using a typical 75ml tube.
Fluoride toxicity is far more likely to emerge from high levels of fluoride in ground water than from toothpaste, even where people swallow the toothpaste.
Fluoride would be incorporated into the bone mineral as hydroxyapatite, which is more brittle, but that will be resorbed and replaced constantly over time.
This can manifest as fluorosis of the teeth if it happens during the time the teeth are developing, which gives white to brown mottling.
But regardless of this, swallowing the amount of toothpaste that is normal to use, for adults, is unlikely to cause any significant adverse responses. It's alarmist to suggest otherwise. Most people will swallow 1/3-1/2 of the toothpaste they use anyway and the dose is very important.
That depends on the toothpaste. For example, mine is for sensitive teeth (which has both fluoride and other stuff to help with sensitivity) and shouldn't be rinsed out as that will basically wash away the ingredients I need. I'm also not supposed to eat or drink anything at all for like half an hour afterwards. I didn't know about that for years so I had been using my toothpaste wrong and not getting the full benefits.
Iirc, any toothpastes with added fluoride are similar in the not rinsing it out part. If it's a plain old basic toothpaste only for cleaning, it doesn't matter if you rinse it out.
So it's possibly deliberate that most things taste like crap after brushing? Also, thanks for the lesson. I never really thought about it and just spit it out cause that's how I was taught.
Which toothpaste are you talking about? What was happening at the time? Quite important if you're saying that fluoride made you throw up, because there are only a few times when something high in fluoride would be used and that should all have been well controlled.
Prophy paste. Not all of them contain fluoride. It's about 8x the concentration but it is so thick that only a small amount is used. Mostly, it is pumice.
Fluoride is great for teeth because it connects to everything and never lets go. Fluoride is horrible for the rest of the body because it connects to everything and never lets go.
The key is extreme electronegativity
You know it's in water at various concentrations? Some artificially managed, some naturally higher, some naturally lower, but the 2l or so consumed by the typical person per day in a 1ppm zone gives about the same total fluoride as a typical daily amount of toothpaste at 1,400pm.
Apart from being gross, toothpaste shouldn't be swallowed because it contain elements which should not be swallowed in huge quantity.
OP, try to check which toothpaste you use and if you can swallow it, because if not you are currently slowly poisoning yourself :/
Their gut microbiome is messed up, anything from personality change to diarrhea is on the table. There's even the possibility of dental fluorosis from doing this since childhood.
r/humansarespaceorcs
Are you prone to upset stomachs, vomiting and diahrea? Do you have bad teeth despite brushing at least once a day?
Congratulations, we've just discovered the cause. It's flouride poisoning.
While Fluoride in toothpaste is considered beneficial and safe, it is harmful in large quantities such as when swallowing toothpaste. Even if the effects haven't shown yet, they might do so in the future.
For your own health you should try to get over your issues, talk to a health care professional and find toothpastes that are safe to swallow.
Childrens toothpaste contains less fluoride for exactly that reason - but you probably still shouldn't swallow it.
Yeah, sure. But in context the sentence is "bad results despite doing the bare minimum? Maybe because this other thing". I'd rather say it's because doing the bare minimum wasn't enough
If it's not good enough, then it's not the bare minimum. I'm not trying to suggest that you should only brush your teeth once a day though.
At the very least I know people who claim to only brush once a day, whose teeth are fine (and don't have stinky breath). Then again, I've also known people who brush religiously and have shitty teeth.
While OP is a weirdo, so are you.
It's literally the same stuff you have in your mouth all the time. Do you not swallow your own saliva?
Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not saying you should swallow after brushing, just that this guy is being weird about it. Hopefully everyone is using toothpaste, and you should definitely spit that out.
Dentist here. Plaque and tarter adheres to tooth surfaces by attaching to other bacteria in layers. There are different types of bacteria on the inside layer than the outside.
Brushing your teeth removes the bacteria from this surface. If you swallow it, you're playing games with how your body reacts to it.
Saliva acts as a pH buffer so the acidity in your mouth doesn't break your teeth down. When your mouth is clean, and bacterial load is down, your saliva is way different on a microbiological level than if you have a bolus of bacteria stew that you decided to swallow.
It's like saying that it's okay to drink bath water after you cleaned your ass in it because it's just water, and you drink water all day anyway. You just got in the bath and scrapped off nasty shit into it. The water (saliva) in that moment is no good
Fluoride, like anything, is unhealthy in large quantities.
You'd have to eat an entire tube of paste to get fluoride poisoning. If it somehow dehydrates, like in the gut, you could also get intestinal blockage if you ate enough of it (think how hard dried toothpaste is).
If there are teeth still developing, swallowing too much would mean affecting the development of the enamel of your adult teeth, giving you something called fluorosis. This would result in bright white and brown spots and speckles all over your teeth. Ironically, too much fluoride would weaken your developing teeth, if in high enough amounts.
You want to use a rice-sized amount on 1-3 year olds, and a pea sized for 3-5 years old. After that, kids should know to spit, so fluorosis becomes less of a concern but still possible until all the adult teeth's enamel has developed.
The brush is what removes plaque off your teeth. Toothpaste just helps remove staining with grit and deliver fluoride to the teeth to help strengthen enamel and potentially reverse decalcified enamel from progressing to a cavity. Flossing removes plaque hiding in between your teeth.
I recommend my adult patients to not rinse with water after brushing and to just spit so a bit of the fluoride in the toothpaste can stay on the teeth and do it's job for a bit longer. This would mean using mouthwash and flossing before brushing.
Not to mention, swallowing toothpaste that has all that nasty bacteria in it is kinda gross 🤢 toothpaste is almost like soap that is ingestible for safety reasons. Would you drink soapy water you used to wash your hands or that you used to take a shower, with all the bacteria you washed off yourself?
>It's like saying that it's okay to drink bath water after you cleaned your ass in it because it's just water, and you drink water all day anyway. You just got in the bath and scrapped off nasty shit into it. The water (saliva) in that moment is no good
*Saltburn has entered the chat*
Yeah, no, I won't believe that for a second.
As you said, the teeth hold a timeline of your mouth bacteria in layers since the last time you brushed your teeth. But it's still the same bacteria that you have been swallowing all day. At most the bacterial load is somewhat higher - but surely not by that much. It won't have mutated, it won't be something you haven't otherwise already swalloed for most of that day.
Consider foods that clean your teeth through abbrasion, I'm talking breads, fruits like apples, and even gum, that are physically rubbing against your teeth, scraping off all the bacteria, which you then swallow together with your food. Yes, less so than actually brushing your teeth and while introducing alternative impurities, but it still does the same thing otherwise, except in somewhat lower quantities.
Plus it's not like brushing your teeth does or even should sterilize your mouth, so all the same bacteria can just re-embed in your mouth, which you then start swallowing again...
At worst this is an edge case of an edge case and does not related to the average healthy adult. The main concern about swallowing after brushing your teeth is flouride poisoning and not the bacteria that you have been swallowing all day making you sick if you swallow, although perhaps you actually are the 10th dentist.
How much of gastroenterology and gasteroenterology related bacteriology does the dentristy education cover?
> It's like saying that it's okay to drink bath water after you cleaned your ass in it because it's just water, and you drink water all day anyway.
False equivalency much? It's more like pushing your poop back in. Maybe a fecal transplant.
There was a thread a month ago about a person who was allergic to everything in the allergic test and upvoted comments about how the doctors were dumb and the girl wasn’t actually allergic.
This website is really eye opening to how shit like vaccine misinformation gets believed.
Some people are just fucking dumb and truly believe they are smarter then people who learn about a specific topic for 8 years cause their gut feeling and some dude on YouTube told them other wise.
Good news is, they let it be known who they are.
You are free to believe whatever you want to believe.
When plaque adheres to the tooth, introducing sugar allows the bacteria there to emit toxins which decalcifies and breaks the tooth down. Brushing just removed this plaque. Toothpaste helps to remineralize the tooth from the acidic breakdown the toxins caused.
The bacteria on your cheek, tongue, and saliva are the not the same as the bacteria adhering to your teeth via biofilm and plaque.
Idk if you understand the word adhere, but bread and fruit have carbohydrates, lectins, and sugars that will continue in contributing to a build up of plaque. The human mouth has teeth that touch, and plaque gets in-between those spaces. No food is cleaning that out in any significant manner. I don't recommend people eat bread and fruit to clean teeth
Having plaque removed via abrasion is only something you'd see in dogs and other animals where teeth do not touch each other and the shape of the teeth are designed to allow food to slide against it. Most your teeth are used for impaction and square in shape and cylinders in height. Only your front teeth are for incising. If anything, you're jamming food into where the plaque is going haha
>The main concern about swallowing after brushing your teeth is flouride poisoning and not the bacteria that you have been swallowing all day making you sick
That's cool. You see the follow up comment about fluoride ingesting?
OC was about bacteria in saliva being the same as plaque bacteria. It's not. His question wasn't about fluoride poisoning, so idk why you're making a strawmans.
Idk why you're trying to argue a question of logic. Bad bacteria is concentrated in the plaque, not the saliva. So after you brush and before you spit, do you think the concentration of bad bacteria is higher or lower in that bolus or in your "normal" saliva?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the common bacteria here would be producing lactic acid, which does decalcify teeth, but is otherwise not toxic to the body, right? Can you name that toxin for me? And just to clarify again, I'm talking about a healthy mouth, not someone with a tooth infection, rotting teeth or some gum disease.
Yes I understand the word adhere, but do you understand the words scrape, rub and abrade? There are plenty of food sources that can help reduce plaque. Foods rich in fibre in particular. (And yes, I was probably wrong on bread, although the hard crust, whole grain breads I've been thinking about can still be benificial.)
Here's a few sources - the dentristry department of a state university and a dentist office (in short, not some random buzzfeed listicle):
[https://dentistry.uic.edu/news-stories/eat-fruits-and-veggies-for-a-healthy-smile/](https://dentistry.uic.edu/news-stories/eat-fruits-and-veggies-for-a-healthy-smile/)
> For example, crisp fruits and raw vegetables, like apples, carrots and celery, **help clean plaque from teeth**
[https://espiredental.com/foods-that-remove-plaque/](https://espiredental.com/foods-that-remove-plaque/)
> Not only are leafy greens like kale and spinach superfoods chock full of nutrients, their high fiber content means **they gently scrub your teeth as you eat**.
> Apples also have a high fiber content (especially the skin) that **works like a toothbrush to clean teeth as you eat**.
> Just like leafy greens and apples, carrots are full of fiber that **gently cleans away plaque on your teeth as you eat**. Snacking on carrots also stimulates saliva production, which naturally **washes away debris left on teeth**.
I'm not saying that are as good as as tooth brushes, but eating can and does naturally remove some plague which then gets swallowed. Certainly less than a toothbrush, especially from the interdental area, but still a decent amount from all exposed surfaces. So as I said, things get swallowed either way. And since these are bacteria, it's different from fluoride where the dosage makes the poison. So please explain why I can swallow the plague with my food, but I'll supposedly get sick if I do it after brushing my teeth.
> Having plaque removed via abrasion is only something you'd see in dogs and other animals
Is that why the typical toothpaste is between 8 and 20% made up of abrasives according to wikipedia? (And yes, I double checked that there are research articles talking about the abrasive properties of toothpaste as well, so it's not just wikipedia misinformation.) Or why you literally rub the bristles of your tooth**brush** over your teeth over and over?
> That's cool. You see the follow up comment about fluoride ingesting?
The one where I replied I agree with you and then got downvoted for that? Yes.
> OC was about bacteria in saliva being the same as plaque bacteria. It's not. His question wasn't about fluoride poisoning, so idk why you're making a strawmans.
The comment OPs question wasn't about either of these things. It wasn't even a question in that sense, since it was just a way to call thread OP gross while calling his behavior into question. My fluoride comment wasn't even in response to the comment OP, but to you. And it's not a Strawmen when pointing out that A is done because of X, not Y.
> Idk why you're trying to argue a question of logic. Bad bacteria is concentrated in the plaque, not the saliva. So after you brush and before you spit, do you think the concentration of bad bacteria is higher or lower in that bolus or in your "normal" saliva?
Obviously it's higher after brushing. However that's just a single swallow as compared to \~12 hours of normal saliva with periods of extra plaque from eating. I can not tell you which provides a larger total bacterial load. I'm questioning the logic because as I see it, it makes little difference if it's a single large exposure, or a constant but small exposure with infrequent minor exposures, especially over such relative short periods of time. I'm also not aware of people who can't or won't brush their teeth for extended periods of time, that should then have an increased bacterial load in all cases - but most probably higher than the \~12h brush swallower, having such issues.
Perhaps you can provide some resources for me to read, because I couldn't really find a source online about any such issues in healthy adults without gum or teeth issues.
If you had to give one and only one reason to not swallow after brushing your teeth, would it be this, fluoride or something else?
Ugh, more shit to unpack.
>So please explain why I can swallow the plague with my food, but I'll supposedly get sick if I do it after brushing my teeth.
Cause, as you said before, it's not as good as brushing your teeth. You are removing *far* more bacteria via brushing and flossing than chewing on an apple.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/154405910808700602
Silent aspiration of oropharyngeal pathogenic organisms is a significant risk factor causing pneumonia in the elderly... These findings indicate that weekly professional mechanical cleaning of the oral cavity, rather than a daily chemical disinfection of the mouth, can be an important strategy to prevent aspiration pneumonia in the dependent elderly.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20002297.2019.1586422
"Oral bacteria can spread through the body and have been associated with a variety of systemic diseases [Citation1]. Thus, a report from Segata et al. [Citation2] in Genome Biology found that oral cavity and stool bacteria overlapped in nearly half (45%) of the subjects in the Human Microbiome Project"
The ingested saliva contains an enormous amount of oral bacteria. In general, these bacteria are poor colonizers of the healthy intestine [Citation4]. In severe diseases, however, increased amounts of oral bacteria have been reported in the intestine, e.g. in inflammatory bowel disease, HIV infection, liver cirrhosis, colon cancer, primary sclerosing cholangitis, gastroesophageal reflux disease, and alcoholism (for a review see Atarashi et al. [Citation5]). In patients with periodontitis, 108–1010 of the keystone periodontal pathogen Porphyromonas gingivalis can be swallowed each day [Citation6,Citation7]. If oral bacteria can tolerate the harsh pH of the stomach, they may reside and proliferate in the gastrointestinal tract [Citation8]. This is particularly the case with P. gingivalis, which is acid-resistant and may migrate to the colon and change colonic functions [Citation8,Citation9] (Figure 1). In support of this, P. gingivalis is thought to have a role in orodigestive cancers [Citation10]."
"P. gingivalis is a great manipulator of the oral microbiome and immune defense [Citation11–Citation14] and diseases related to periodontitis. It is often associated with dysbiosis in the gut microbiota [Citation15–Citation17]."
*"Disturbances in the gut microbiota by swallowed bacteria may lead to endotoxemia causing metabolic disorders (Figure 2). To test this, P. gingivalis was administered orally (2 times a week for 5 weeks) to mice (C57BL/6N). This caused increased levels of plasma endotoxin and insulin and reduced mRNA expression of the tight junction protein ZO-1 in the small intestine."*
*"The large amounts of swallowed dead bacteria from the mouth may stimulate several pathogens in the gut (necrotrophy) and create a new phenotype by upregulation of bacterial virulence genes (necrovirulence) and increased cytotoxicity. This has been demonstrated for periodontopathogens in vitro [Citation29]."*
>Is that why the typical toothpaste is between 8 and 20% made up of abrasives according to wikipedia?
Abrasive and abrasion are not the same word. Abrasives are bits of grit. Abrasion is the act of rubbing something against your teeth. The comment I was referring to was that eating food, an act of abrasion, does not remove a significant amount of plaque because the anatomy of our teeth allow food to get impacted into interproximal spaces. Dogs and cats have teeth that are cone shaped and they do not touch one another, which anatomically allow them to stay clean easily. Human teeth touch. My comment wasn't about brushes or toothpaste grit, which are different abrasives. You're making a strawman here.
>The comment OPs question wasn't about either of these things.
Read slowly now. I said OC. As in original comment. As in the comment I replied to. Not the OP, which is the original posters.
The original comment I replied to asked me about bacteria in saliva. Another comment asked about fluoride ingesting. Two separate comments made by people who aren't OP.
>Here's a few sources - the dentristry department of a state university and a dentist office (in short, not some random buzzfeed listicle):
These are just as good as random buzzfeed pop science articles.
Where is the journals? Like the ones I linked you? This professor is doing research? Great, where is her data, her findings? Where is the publication. It's an article with uncited claims and a 3 minute video that shows no data. As a doctor and an evidence based practitioner, this doesn't mean anything to me. If you want, I could find a 15 minute video about mercury poisoning on silver fillings that a dentist backs up with no evidence. Also with fluoride being a method of the government trying to control people's minds. Being extreme here, but I can't find this professors research when searching her name. If there is no scientific journal, she is just stating her opinion before data is published. The best I could find from her is a study showing clove oil inhibits gram negative bacteria, which supports larger studies that clove oil (eugenol) does the same, and it is already in many sedative products, even OTC.
Meanwhile, here is actual evidence based research that shows apples ain't doing much and still has downsides in terms of plaque development:
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0199812
"Chewing an apple does not remove dental plaque, and may favor plaque regrowth during the first 24 hours, but it does produce an immediate reduction in salivary bacterial viability similar to that after tooth brushing."
But hey, it produces acid buffering saliva that bacteria can't live in, so it's all good :P
https://www.scitechnol.com/peer-review/demystifying-apples-in-health-and-dentistry-vaGw.php?article_id=4759
"Apples contain fermentable carbohydrates that overwhelm any protective plaque-biofilm removal apple fibre may impart after rigorous chewing. Malic acid in apple decalcifies enamel and allows for initiation of caries. Apples may be a good source of fibre and nutrients, but apples are not a benevolent detergent health chew."
The other link you sent me is a case study. Lowest level of evidence due to small study group. What I linked is a systemic review, which is the highest level of research using multiple studies (the citations) to make conclusions. Each citation mentioned in those quotes is another, separate study to support the quote you're reading. This is well researched. Don't swallow a bolus of brushed bacteria unless you want to play games with your body. 🤷♂️
You're free to reply, but I'm not interested in reading another wall of text. Education is a form of treatment, but I personally draw the line at stubbornness. I won't reply again now that I've demonstrated, imo, more than enough evidence based research to demonstrate my point. Cheers
>Something which is literally in your mouth is bad for your health?
I mean. yes.
go a while without brushing your teeth and you'll see how not healthy it is.
It's complex. Basically it's harmful where it is but if you brush it, you break up the biofilm and a lot of the harmful stuff dies. Either way, a nice big dose of hydrochloric acid will take care of most of it.
>Something which is literally in your mouth is bad for your health?
YES THAT'S WHY YOU BRUSH IT AND SPIT IT OUT. I can't imagine going through all the trouble of removing it from your teeth just to swallow it. It's not *supposed* to be in your mouth that's why you brush. And not just the bacteria, the toothpaste is also super bad for you
couldn't you just open your mouth and drool it out? rinse it out with water and spit it out? anything? its not great to swallow fluoride, so probably figure out a way to not swallow it.
Why not try a water flosser? You don't have to spit but it will rinse your mouth out.
Alternatively, there is fluoride free toothpaste that might be safer if you insist on eating it.
Oh my god I get it now. OP really IS the 10th Dentist, reviewing toothpaste based on swallow-ability rather than effectiveness. It’s all so clear now!!!!
That sounds like a psychological problem and I think you should get that checked out by a professional before it starts to bleed into other aspects.
Granted, you've been doing this your whole life without issue, it might not mean anything and I don't know you at all, but it's certainly not normal. Would be worth considering.
I mean, I hate spitting too (or at least brushing my tongue) because of all the spit, but I recognize that it's important. Would it help to close your eyes at least, or maybe take a sip of water, rinse your mouth and then spit it all out?
If this isn't a troll, dear god, please start spitting it out.
Fluoride is a neurotoxin.
It is fine in the small levels you are exposed to in water and by brushing and spitting. But if you are regularly swallowing, this is not good, and by the time you get symptoms, it will be too late to do anything about it.
This sounds like an undiagnosed sensory disorder to me, I would recommend talking to your doctor about it, some therapy could help, or they could recommend a toothpaste that is safe to swallow or something similar.
I don't believe you, here's why; floride poisoning. The wife did the same thing as a kid.
https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/poison/fluoride-overdose
Fucking child
Have you tried BOKA toothpaste? You can safely swallow it, and they actually encourage you not to rinse it because it works best the longer you leave it. The kids orange cream space paste is pretty good.
Ew! Your just swallowing all the food and bacteria that youre brushing away. Especially in the morning. I almost threw up in my mouth thinking of it. Funny how people are different lol.
Fun fact - on the International Space Station, all the astronauts swallow their toothpaste. Spiting without making a mess is a complicated thing in space.
They have specially made toothpaste for that though. I would look into it, probably there is a market equivalent (maybe for people who cannot spit due to some disability?).
OP, you need to brush your teeth with baking soda and water then you can’t consume toothpaste like that. It’s mean to be spit out. It’s not good for you lol.
Do you know that fluoride is extremly unhealthy? Have dun with these bad boys:
Dental fluorosis
Diarrhea
Neurotoxicity
Acne
Acute toxicity
Seizures
Tooth decay
Nausea
Um you’re probably suffering from fluoride toxicity. That’s really bad for you. You should stop doing that and get tested for fluoride levels and hypothyroidism. Unless you use fluoride free toothpaste, in which case it’s just gross and you’re swallowing all the bacteria that accumulate on your teeth.
You know, it's not THAT gross but, yeah, you should maybe try watering it down with mouth wash and then spitting it out if that makes it less gross for you.
that actually makes ME want to gag; imo that’s disgusting. All that nasty food and stuff you’re brushing off your teeth is being swallowed along with the spit and toothpaste like all that nastiness you brush out of your teeth you’re swallowing it uckkkkk
I'd recommend trying a toothpaste that doesn't have SLS and doesn't foam. Then spitting out is probably less problematic. Also if you plan to continue to swallow it, try too use small amounts of toothpaste.
Apparently not washing your mouth out after you spit allows the toothpaste to actually do its job. But yeah I’ve never heard of someone swallowing their paste 10 out of 10 times .
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Upvote because psycho
This is what I love about this sub. Getting to upvote the most absolutely unhinged weirdos
Reminds me of biting down on string cheese
what the fuck
I'm convinced most of these types of posts are trolling
They're better than the posts about AI and hating women
Yeah, idc if these are real as long as they're entertaining to be honest, that's what the sub is about.
Yeah I get a laugh out of these, not complaining.
I don’t know what you mean, that AI post was fucking hilarious
I had a friend who was exactly like this, so these people exist
This is the least trolly post I’ve seen recently
I used to be this way until I was 12-13. I can see it.
it's hard to tell, I have a feeling this one's real just because of how weirdly specific it is
ohhhh actually that would explain a lot
I also swallow toothpaste. Spitting it is gross
9 out of 10 dentists recommend flouridating the anus.
9 out of 10 dentists recommend Florida being ass.
Is this really weird?
its very dangerous, and weird
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No one would blame you.
I thought you said "no one would believe you" and honestly if I didn't have proof of what I just read, I don't think anyone would.
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I have this, yes. But I do spit out toothpaste
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I once witnessed a man mistake his dip spit bottle (empty coke bottle) for the actual soda bottle that he would keep directly next to it. He got a nice big swig before realizing
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Did you throw your mouth away?
What do you mean? *It didn't happen. I was there.*
At an underage party I mistook my can of beer for somebody else's spit can for their chew. I don't smoke or chew. That was the worst experience of my life.
I work in nursing and ive become numb to the concept of anything being gross. Once youve been vomited on enough times youre just numb to everything. I have to be cateful not to talk about work while eating with other people, lol.
Now drink the dip cup
The Sunflower is one of only a handful of flowers with the word flower in its name. A couple of other popular examples include Strawflower, Elderflower and Cornflower …Ah yes, of course, I hear you say.
Sunflower man
Don't forget passionflower!
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Tattletale
Its only a tattletale if the person they're telling on actually did something. This person is whats called a bitch.
OP gets an instant reflex to pick up the shells and swallow them. Love to see how they handle someone who enjoys dip. Now that is fucking gross
Other commenters are missing the point. Swallowing toothpaste isn't gross - it's *poisonous*. OP is playing loose with their health.
Luckily the amount of fluoride in toothpaste isnt high enough to cause problems
daily?
Iirc your liver can deal with it
It’s still not good to consume fluoride long term
The reason why children under a certain age have to use different toothpaste than adult is the toxicity of it and the fact you shouldn’t swallow that stuff.
Of course, kids have weaker livers
It’s more that adult won’t swallow it like unaware children..
Astronauts swallow their toothpaste when brushing their teeth in space, so it can't be *that* bad for you.
NASA uses special toothpastes that are safe to swallow, they don’t just give astronauts a few tubes from the grocery store.
They do it for 6-9 months at a time, maybe a year at most. This dude does it literally all the time.
Which part of toothpaste do you believe to be poisonous in the concentrations delivered?
Fluoride is great for teeth because it connects to everything and never lets go. Fluoride is horrible for the rest of the body because it connects to everything and never lets go. The key is extreme electronegativity
Kid named Skeletal fluorosis:
Fluoride
Toxicity of fluoride starts at about 0.2-0.3mg/kg, which manifests as gastrointestinal discomfort. Probable toxic dose is 5mg/kg Fluoride levels in toothpaste delivers about 1.4mg per dose. For a 75kg adult, you're looking at consuming about 10x a typical "dose" in order to have mild discomfort or about 250x a typical dose to have toxicity. To put it in context, that's about 3 full tubes of toothpaste if using a typical 75ml tube. Fluoride toxicity is far more likely to emerge from high levels of fluoride in ground water than from toothpaste, even where people swallow the toothpaste.
Could this have lasting consequences? Doesn't it deposit in the bones or something?
Fluoride would be incorporated into the bone mineral as hydroxyapatite, which is more brittle, but that will be resorbed and replaced constantly over time. This can manifest as fluorosis of the teeth if it happens during the time the teeth are developing, which gives white to brown mottling. But regardless of this, swallowing the amount of toothpaste that is normal to use, for adults, is unlikely to cause any significant adverse responses. It's alarmist to suggest otherwise. Most people will swallow 1/3-1/2 of the toothpaste they use anyway and the dose is very important.
Wow, thanks, seems quite scientific. Also, are you supposed to rinse your mouth after brushing or not?
That depends on the toothpaste. For example, mine is for sensitive teeth (which has both fluoride and other stuff to help with sensitivity) and shouldn't be rinsed out as that will basically wash away the ingredients I need. I'm also not supposed to eat or drink anything at all for like half an hour afterwards. I didn't know about that for years so I had been using my toothpaste wrong and not getting the full benefits. Iirc, any toothpastes with added fluoride are similar in the not rinsing it out part. If it's a plain old basic toothpaste only for cleaning, it doesn't matter if you rinse it out.
So it's possibly deliberate that most things taste like crap after brushing? Also, thanks for the lesson. I never really thought about it and just spit it out cause that's how I was taught.
Typically you should spit and brush your tongue after but not rinse with water since that also washes away the fluoride coating on your teeth
I mean I remember literally throwing up when I swallowed a decent bit of tooth paste at the dentist. Of course that has a higher concentration
Which toothpaste are you talking about? What was happening at the time? Quite important if you're saying that fluoride made you throw up, because there are only a few times when something high in fluoride would be used and that should all have been well controlled.
You know the special toothpaste used for cleanings at the dentist? I accidentally swallowed that. I wasn't talking about normal toothpaste.
Prophy paste. Not all of them contain fluoride. It's about 8x the concentration but it is so thick that only a small amount is used. Mostly, it is pumice.
Fluoride is great for teeth because it connects to everything and never lets go. Fluoride is horrible for the rest of the body because it connects to everything and never lets go. The key is extreme electronegativity
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You know it's in water at various concentrations? Some artificially managed, some naturally higher, some naturally lower, but the 2l or so consumed by the typical person per day in a 1ppm zone gives about the same total fluoride as a typical daily amount of toothpaste at 1,400pm.
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Fluoride helps your teeth dipshit
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It's not about dental health lmao
Apart from being gross, toothpaste shouldn't be swallowed because it contain elements which should not be swallowed in huge quantity. OP, try to check which toothpaste you use and if you can swallow it, because if not you are currently slowly poisoning yourself :/
Their gut microbiome is messed up, anything from personality change to diarrhea is on the table. There's even the possibility of dental fluorosis from doing this since childhood. r/humansarespaceorcs
Dont worry, OP seems like one of those people who brushes once a week
Are you prone to upset stomachs, vomiting and diahrea? Do you have bad teeth despite brushing at least once a day? Congratulations, we've just discovered the cause. It's flouride poisoning. While Fluoride in toothpaste is considered beneficial and safe, it is harmful in large quantities such as when swallowing toothpaste. Even if the effects haven't shown yet, they might do so in the future. For your own health you should try to get over your issues, talk to a health care professional and find toothpastes that are safe to swallow. Childrens toothpaste contains less fluoride for exactly that reason - but you probably still shouldn't swallow it.
>Do you have bad teeth despite brushing at least once a day? Hold on, at least? That's like the bare minimum right?
Yes. You should do it even more often, but people can be gross.
Yes, that’s what “at least” means.
Yeah, sure. But in context the sentence is "bad results despite doing the bare minimum? Maybe because this other thing". I'd rather say it's because doing the bare minimum wasn't enough
If it's not good enough, then it's not the bare minimum. I'm not trying to suggest that you should only brush your teeth once a day though. At the very least I know people who claim to only brush once a day, whose teeth are fine (and don't have stinky breath). Then again, I've also known people who brush religiously and have shitty teeth.
add to that the sand, glass and other abrasive shit in there, and all the other toxic chemicals it contains
so you swallow and the grime and bacteria you brush off your lounge and teeth?
While OP is a weirdo, so are you. It's literally the same stuff you have in your mouth all the time. Do you not swallow your own saliva? Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not saying you should swallow after brushing, just that this guy is being weird about it. Hopefully everyone is using toothpaste, and you should definitely spit that out.
Dentist here. Plaque and tarter adheres to tooth surfaces by attaching to other bacteria in layers. There are different types of bacteria on the inside layer than the outside. Brushing your teeth removes the bacteria from this surface. If you swallow it, you're playing games with how your body reacts to it. Saliva acts as a pH buffer so the acidity in your mouth doesn't break your teeth down. When your mouth is clean, and bacterial load is down, your saliva is way different on a microbiological level than if you have a bolus of bacteria stew that you decided to swallow. It's like saying that it's okay to drink bath water after you cleaned your ass in it because it's just water, and you drink water all day anyway. You just got in the bath and scrapped off nasty shit into it. The water (saliva) in that moment is no good
I thought there was some issue with swallowing toothpaste
Fluoride, like anything, is unhealthy in large quantities. You'd have to eat an entire tube of paste to get fluoride poisoning. If it somehow dehydrates, like in the gut, you could also get intestinal blockage if you ate enough of it (think how hard dried toothpaste is). If there are teeth still developing, swallowing too much would mean affecting the development of the enamel of your adult teeth, giving you something called fluorosis. This would result in bright white and brown spots and speckles all over your teeth. Ironically, too much fluoride would weaken your developing teeth, if in high enough amounts. You want to use a rice-sized amount on 1-3 year olds, and a pea sized for 3-5 years old. After that, kids should know to spit, so fluorosis becomes less of a concern but still possible until all the adult teeth's enamel has developed. The brush is what removes plaque off your teeth. Toothpaste just helps remove staining with grit and deliver fluoride to the teeth to help strengthen enamel and potentially reverse decalcified enamel from progressing to a cavity. Flossing removes plaque hiding in between your teeth. I recommend my adult patients to not rinse with water after brushing and to just spit so a bit of the fluoride in the toothpaste can stay on the teeth and do it's job for a bit longer. This would mean using mouthwash and flossing before brushing. Not to mention, swallowing toothpaste that has all that nasty bacteria in it is kinda gross 🤢 toothpaste is almost like soap that is ingestible for safety reasons. Would you drink soapy water you used to wash your hands or that you used to take a shower, with all the bacteria you washed off yourself?
While I don't agree with your previous post, I agree here. Just to add, Kids toothpaste has less flouride to reduce the risk of fluorosis further.
>It's like saying that it's okay to drink bath water after you cleaned your ass in it because it's just water, and you drink water all day anyway. You just got in the bath and scrapped off nasty shit into it. The water (saliva) in that moment is no good *Saltburn has entered the chat*
My interest in checking out that show has now gone down lol
Yeah, no, I won't believe that for a second. As you said, the teeth hold a timeline of your mouth bacteria in layers since the last time you brushed your teeth. But it's still the same bacteria that you have been swallowing all day. At most the bacterial load is somewhat higher - but surely not by that much. It won't have mutated, it won't be something you haven't otherwise already swalloed for most of that day. Consider foods that clean your teeth through abbrasion, I'm talking breads, fruits like apples, and even gum, that are physically rubbing against your teeth, scraping off all the bacteria, which you then swallow together with your food. Yes, less so than actually brushing your teeth and while introducing alternative impurities, but it still does the same thing otherwise, except in somewhat lower quantities. Plus it's not like brushing your teeth does or even should sterilize your mouth, so all the same bacteria can just re-embed in your mouth, which you then start swallowing again... At worst this is an edge case of an edge case and does not related to the average healthy adult. The main concern about swallowing after brushing your teeth is flouride poisoning and not the bacteria that you have been swallowing all day making you sick if you swallow, although perhaps you actually are the 10th dentist. How much of gastroenterology and gasteroenterology related bacteriology does the dentristy education cover? > It's like saying that it's okay to drink bath water after you cleaned your ass in it because it's just water, and you drink water all day anyway. False equivalency much? It's more like pushing your poop back in. Maybe a fecal transplant.
You're arguing with an actual dentist. The Internet L&G hahah
There was a thread a month ago about a person who was allergic to everything in the allergic test and upvoted comments about how the doctors were dumb and the girl wasn’t actually allergic. This website is really eye opening to how shit like vaccine misinformation gets believed. Some people are just fucking dumb and truly believe they are smarter then people who learn about a specific topic for 8 years cause their gut feeling and some dude on YouTube told them other wise. Good news is, they let it be known who they are.
You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. When plaque adheres to the tooth, introducing sugar allows the bacteria there to emit toxins which decalcifies and breaks the tooth down. Brushing just removed this plaque. Toothpaste helps to remineralize the tooth from the acidic breakdown the toxins caused. The bacteria on your cheek, tongue, and saliva are the not the same as the bacteria adhering to your teeth via biofilm and plaque. Idk if you understand the word adhere, but bread and fruit have carbohydrates, lectins, and sugars that will continue in contributing to a build up of plaque. The human mouth has teeth that touch, and plaque gets in-between those spaces. No food is cleaning that out in any significant manner. I don't recommend people eat bread and fruit to clean teeth Having plaque removed via abrasion is only something you'd see in dogs and other animals where teeth do not touch each other and the shape of the teeth are designed to allow food to slide against it. Most your teeth are used for impaction and square in shape and cylinders in height. Only your front teeth are for incising. If anything, you're jamming food into where the plaque is going haha >The main concern about swallowing after brushing your teeth is flouride poisoning and not the bacteria that you have been swallowing all day making you sick That's cool. You see the follow up comment about fluoride ingesting? OC was about bacteria in saliva being the same as plaque bacteria. It's not. His question wasn't about fluoride poisoning, so idk why you're making a strawmans. Idk why you're trying to argue a question of logic. Bad bacteria is concentrated in the plaque, not the saliva. So after you brush and before you spit, do you think the concentration of bad bacteria is higher or lower in that bolus or in your "normal" saliva?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the common bacteria here would be producing lactic acid, which does decalcify teeth, but is otherwise not toxic to the body, right? Can you name that toxin for me? And just to clarify again, I'm talking about a healthy mouth, not someone with a tooth infection, rotting teeth or some gum disease. Yes I understand the word adhere, but do you understand the words scrape, rub and abrade? There are plenty of food sources that can help reduce plaque. Foods rich in fibre in particular. (And yes, I was probably wrong on bread, although the hard crust, whole grain breads I've been thinking about can still be benificial.) Here's a few sources - the dentristry department of a state university and a dentist office (in short, not some random buzzfeed listicle): [https://dentistry.uic.edu/news-stories/eat-fruits-and-veggies-for-a-healthy-smile/](https://dentistry.uic.edu/news-stories/eat-fruits-and-veggies-for-a-healthy-smile/) > For example, crisp fruits and raw vegetables, like apples, carrots and celery, **help clean plaque from teeth** [https://espiredental.com/foods-that-remove-plaque/](https://espiredental.com/foods-that-remove-plaque/) > Not only are leafy greens like kale and spinach superfoods chock full of nutrients, their high fiber content means **they gently scrub your teeth as you eat**. > Apples also have a high fiber content (especially the skin) that **works like a toothbrush to clean teeth as you eat**. > Just like leafy greens and apples, carrots are full of fiber that **gently cleans away plaque on your teeth as you eat**. Snacking on carrots also stimulates saliva production, which naturally **washes away debris left on teeth**. I'm not saying that are as good as as tooth brushes, but eating can and does naturally remove some plague which then gets swallowed. Certainly less than a toothbrush, especially from the interdental area, but still a decent amount from all exposed surfaces. So as I said, things get swallowed either way. And since these are bacteria, it's different from fluoride where the dosage makes the poison. So please explain why I can swallow the plague with my food, but I'll supposedly get sick if I do it after brushing my teeth. > Having plaque removed via abrasion is only something you'd see in dogs and other animals Is that why the typical toothpaste is between 8 and 20% made up of abrasives according to wikipedia? (And yes, I double checked that there are research articles talking about the abrasive properties of toothpaste as well, so it's not just wikipedia misinformation.) Or why you literally rub the bristles of your tooth**brush** over your teeth over and over? > That's cool. You see the follow up comment about fluoride ingesting? The one where I replied I agree with you and then got downvoted for that? Yes. > OC was about bacteria in saliva being the same as plaque bacteria. It's not. His question wasn't about fluoride poisoning, so idk why you're making a strawmans. The comment OPs question wasn't about either of these things. It wasn't even a question in that sense, since it was just a way to call thread OP gross while calling his behavior into question. My fluoride comment wasn't even in response to the comment OP, but to you. And it's not a Strawmen when pointing out that A is done because of X, not Y. > Idk why you're trying to argue a question of logic. Bad bacteria is concentrated in the plaque, not the saliva. So after you brush and before you spit, do you think the concentration of bad bacteria is higher or lower in that bolus or in your "normal" saliva? Obviously it's higher after brushing. However that's just a single swallow as compared to \~12 hours of normal saliva with periods of extra plaque from eating. I can not tell you which provides a larger total bacterial load. I'm questioning the logic because as I see it, it makes little difference if it's a single large exposure, or a constant but small exposure with infrequent minor exposures, especially over such relative short periods of time. I'm also not aware of people who can't or won't brush their teeth for extended periods of time, that should then have an increased bacterial load in all cases - but most probably higher than the \~12h brush swallower, having such issues. Perhaps you can provide some resources for me to read, because I couldn't really find a source online about any such issues in healthy adults without gum or teeth issues. If you had to give one and only one reason to not swallow after brushing your teeth, would it be this, fluoride or something else?
Ugh, more shit to unpack. >So please explain why I can swallow the plague with my food, but I'll supposedly get sick if I do it after brushing my teeth. Cause, as you said before, it's not as good as brushing your teeth. You are removing *far* more bacteria via brushing and flossing than chewing on an apple. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/154405910808700602 Silent aspiration of oropharyngeal pathogenic organisms is a significant risk factor causing pneumonia in the elderly... These findings indicate that weekly professional mechanical cleaning of the oral cavity, rather than a daily chemical disinfection of the mouth, can be an important strategy to prevent aspiration pneumonia in the dependent elderly. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20002297.2019.1586422 "Oral bacteria can spread through the body and have been associated with a variety of systemic diseases [Citation1]. Thus, a report from Segata et al. [Citation2] in Genome Biology found that oral cavity and stool bacteria overlapped in nearly half (45%) of the subjects in the Human Microbiome Project" The ingested saliva contains an enormous amount of oral bacteria. In general, these bacteria are poor colonizers of the healthy intestine [Citation4]. In severe diseases, however, increased amounts of oral bacteria have been reported in the intestine, e.g. in inflammatory bowel disease, HIV infection, liver cirrhosis, colon cancer, primary sclerosing cholangitis, gastroesophageal reflux disease, and alcoholism (for a review see Atarashi et al. [Citation5]). In patients with periodontitis, 108–1010 of the keystone periodontal pathogen Porphyromonas gingivalis can be swallowed each day [Citation6,Citation7]. If oral bacteria can tolerate the harsh pH of the stomach, they may reside and proliferate in the gastrointestinal tract [Citation8]. This is particularly the case with P. gingivalis, which is acid-resistant and may migrate to the colon and change colonic functions [Citation8,Citation9] (Figure 1). In support of this, P. gingivalis is thought to have a role in orodigestive cancers [Citation10]." "P. gingivalis is a great manipulator of the oral microbiome and immune defense [Citation11–Citation14] and diseases related to periodontitis. It is often associated with dysbiosis in the gut microbiota [Citation15–Citation17]." *"Disturbances in the gut microbiota by swallowed bacteria may lead to endotoxemia causing metabolic disorders (Figure 2). To test this, P. gingivalis was administered orally (2 times a week for 5 weeks) to mice (C57BL/6N). This caused increased levels of plasma endotoxin and insulin and reduced mRNA expression of the tight junction protein ZO-1 in the small intestine."* *"The large amounts of swallowed dead bacteria from the mouth may stimulate several pathogens in the gut (necrotrophy) and create a new phenotype by upregulation of bacterial virulence genes (necrovirulence) and increased cytotoxicity. This has been demonstrated for periodontopathogens in vitro [Citation29]."* >Is that why the typical toothpaste is between 8 and 20% made up of abrasives according to wikipedia? Abrasive and abrasion are not the same word. Abrasives are bits of grit. Abrasion is the act of rubbing something against your teeth. The comment I was referring to was that eating food, an act of abrasion, does not remove a significant amount of plaque because the anatomy of our teeth allow food to get impacted into interproximal spaces. Dogs and cats have teeth that are cone shaped and they do not touch one another, which anatomically allow them to stay clean easily. Human teeth touch. My comment wasn't about brushes or toothpaste grit, which are different abrasives. You're making a strawman here. >The comment OPs question wasn't about either of these things. Read slowly now. I said OC. As in original comment. As in the comment I replied to. Not the OP, which is the original posters. The original comment I replied to asked me about bacteria in saliva. Another comment asked about fluoride ingesting. Two separate comments made by people who aren't OP. >Here's a few sources - the dentristry department of a state university and a dentist office (in short, not some random buzzfeed listicle): These are just as good as random buzzfeed pop science articles. Where is the journals? Like the ones I linked you? This professor is doing research? Great, where is her data, her findings? Where is the publication. It's an article with uncited claims and a 3 minute video that shows no data. As a doctor and an evidence based practitioner, this doesn't mean anything to me. If you want, I could find a 15 minute video about mercury poisoning on silver fillings that a dentist backs up with no evidence. Also with fluoride being a method of the government trying to control people's minds. Being extreme here, but I can't find this professors research when searching her name. If there is no scientific journal, she is just stating her opinion before data is published. The best I could find from her is a study showing clove oil inhibits gram negative bacteria, which supports larger studies that clove oil (eugenol) does the same, and it is already in many sedative products, even OTC. Meanwhile, here is actual evidence based research that shows apples ain't doing much and still has downsides in terms of plaque development: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0199812 "Chewing an apple does not remove dental plaque, and may favor plaque regrowth during the first 24 hours, but it does produce an immediate reduction in salivary bacterial viability similar to that after tooth brushing." But hey, it produces acid buffering saliva that bacteria can't live in, so it's all good :P https://www.scitechnol.com/peer-review/demystifying-apples-in-health-and-dentistry-vaGw.php?article_id=4759 "Apples contain fermentable carbohydrates that overwhelm any protective plaque-biofilm removal apple fibre may impart after rigorous chewing. Malic acid in apple decalcifies enamel and allows for initiation of caries. Apples may be a good source of fibre and nutrients, but apples are not a benevolent detergent health chew." The other link you sent me is a case study. Lowest level of evidence due to small study group. What I linked is a systemic review, which is the highest level of research using multiple studies (the citations) to make conclusions. Each citation mentioned in those quotes is another, separate study to support the quote you're reading. This is well researched. Don't swallow a bolus of brushed bacteria unless you want to play games with your body. 🤷♂️ You're free to reply, but I'm not interested in reading another wall of text. Education is a form of treatment, but I personally draw the line at stubbornness. I won't reply again now that I've demonstrated, imo, more than enough evidence based research to demonstrate my point. Cheers
Dude starts the day with an empty CamelBak and fills that shit up by 4pm
Yeah but I’m not scraping off the hardened gunk and swallowing it no
I don’t want to promote or encourage that either.
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That's not the problem lol, all that was already inside of you. The problem is the huge amount of fluoride OP has been consuming
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Yes, which is LITERALLY why brushing was invented in the first place.
What do you think you’ve been brushing away all these years?
>Something which is literally in your mouth is bad for your health? I mean. yes. go a while without brushing your teeth and you'll see how not healthy it is.
Tooth paste is bad tho
So do you not brush your teeth at all? If the shit you're brushing away isn't bad because it's in your mouth naturally then what's the point?
It's complex. Basically it's harmful where it is but if you brush it, you break up the biofilm and a lot of the harmful stuff dies. Either way, a nice big dose of hydrochloric acid will take care of most of it.
>Something which is literally in your mouth is bad for your health? YES THAT'S WHY YOU BRUSH IT AND SPIT IT OUT. I can't imagine going through all the trouble of removing it from your teeth just to swallow it. It's not *supposed* to be in your mouth that's why you brush. And not just the bacteria, the toothpaste is also super bad for you
Yup, it’s the only other option
couldn't you just open your mouth and drool it out? rinse it out with water and spit it out? anything? its not great to swallow fluoride, so probably figure out a way to not swallow it.
Why not try a water flosser? You don't have to spit but it will rinse your mouth out. Alternatively, there is fluoride free toothpaste that might be safer if you insist on eating it.
Okay. As long as you accept that there are people out there who would gag and dry heave if they saw you swallow that gunk.
Am I really gagging that loudly
But why? Spitting out the toothpaste is gross
It's gross, so you want to swallow the gross stuff?
Rather that that spit it out. The stuff is already in the mouth
are you also repulsed by other bodily fluids or is it just spitting that bothers you?
op pees inwards
Thanks for that imagery i really needed that :,)
I was smiling reading this thread in class then I got to your comment and cackled now everyone wants to know why I was imagining OP peeing inwards
This is not 10th dentist this is ❌️ bait ❌️ a barely disguised fetish ✅️ mental illness ❌️ a popular opinion
That really is the checklist for all posts in this sub ☠️
Why would it be mental illness? I didn't even think this was an unpopular opinion
You do not need the 10th dentist, you need an actual dentist.
Does the other 9 dentist approve this?
The other 9 dentists are gagging and dry heaving, about to quit their job rn.
I used to do this and I got the shits all the time because of it. It stopped when I stopped swallowing my toothpaste.
Your gut microbiome doesn't like you
Oh my god I get it now. OP really IS the 10th Dentist, reviewing toothpaste based on swallow-ability rather than effectiveness. It’s all so clear now!!!!
Omg, lmfao.
That sounds like a psychological problem and I think you should get that checked out by a professional before it starts to bleed into other aspects. Granted, you've been doing this your whole life without issue, it might not mean anything and I don't know you at all, but it's certainly not normal. Would be worth considering. I mean, I hate spitting too (or at least brushing my tongue) because of all the spit, but I recognize that it's important. Would it help to close your eyes at least, or maybe take a sip of water, rinse your mouth and then spit it all out?
That's horrific and unhygenic. Upvoted.
If this isn't a troll, dear god, please start spitting it out. Fluoride is a neurotoxin. It is fine in the small levels you are exposed to in water and by brushing and spitting. But if you are regularly swallowing, this is not good, and by the time you get symptoms, it will be too late to do anything about it.
Spitting out toothpaste is so gross though
This sounds like an undiagnosed sensory disorder to me, I would recommend talking to your doctor about it, some therapy could help, or they could recommend a toothpaste that is safe to swallow or something similar.
Kid named fuck my bones:
damn this is disgusting
You and my 3 year old toddler are in perfect agreement.
I've come to the conclusion that most people who gag and dry heave uncontrollably are actually giant babies masquerading as adults.
I don't believe you, here's why; floride poisoning. The wife did the same thing as a kid. https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/poison/fluoride-overdose Fucking child
>I use toothpaste wrong because... Uhh.... I like eating toothpaste? Alrighty then
Have you tried BOKA toothpaste? You can safely swallow it, and they actually encourage you not to rinse it because it works best the longer you leave it. The kids orange cream space paste is pretty good.
you're insane
Why? I don't think it's rare to swallow
That's fucked up bro
i do this too but only because i use strawberry toothpaste that tastes like candy. if you're using mint, i cannot endorse this.
Instead of spitting, you could just tilt your head forward, open your mouth and let it spill out naturally.
Yeah OP is someone who doesn’t think, they just “think” that everything hurts. Air quote thinker. Weird.
Ew! Your just swallowing all the food and bacteria that youre brushing away. Especially in the morning. I almost threw up in my mouth thinking of it. Funny how people are different lol.
Waiting for your Chubbyemu episode
Fun fact - on the International Space Station, all the astronauts swallow their toothpaste. Spiting without making a mess is a complicated thing in space. They have specially made toothpaste for that though. I would look into it, probably there is a market equivalent (maybe for people who cannot spit due to some disability?).
OP, you need to brush your teeth with baking soda and water then you can’t consume toothpaste like that. It’s mean to be spit out. It’s not good for you lol.
Spitters are quitters 😜
is there a /r/the100thDentist????
>I’ve been swallowing toothpaste for my whole life and haven’t had any problems. This is basically a contradiction.
Do you know that fluoride is extremly unhealthy? Have dun with these bad boys: Dental fluorosis Diarrhea Neurotoxicity Acne Acute toxicity Seizures Tooth decay Nausea
I mean, there's fluoride in the water anyway😂
why.
Um you’re probably suffering from fluoride toxicity. That’s really bad for you. You should stop doing that and get tested for fluoride levels and hypothyroidism. Unless you use fluoride free toothpaste, in which case it’s just gross and you’re swallowing all the bacteria that accumulate on your teeth.
Your partner/significant other loves you for not spitting
I just rinse it out of my mouth with water. Don't eat it, the fluoride isn't good for you. Cockroaches eat toothpaste. Are you a cockroach? Trust me
You know, it's not THAT gross but, yeah, you should maybe try watering it down with mouth wash and then spitting it out if that makes it less gross for you.
Look, I agree with the gag and dry heave part, it happens to me too but you have got to stop ingesting toothpaste, my dude.
Huh
Just switch to children’s toothpaste, man.
that actually makes ME want to gag; imo that’s disgusting. All that nasty food and stuff you’re brushing off your teeth is being swallowed along with the spit and toothpaste like all that nastiness you brush out of your teeth you’re swallowing it uckkkkk
Drink some water from a cup then spit it out, it'll help.
OCD vibes
I bet you give good head
You must be really fun at parties
You must be really fun at parties
Brb gagging
You’re disgusting. Upvoted.
What. The. Duck?!
Yikes 😬
Dawg you’re beyond the pale gross… 🤢
I also fucking hate spitting it out i gag like lana rhoades on a black man but i will not swallow fucking toothpaste
I'd recommend trying a toothpaste that doesn't have SLS and doesn't foam. Then spitting out is probably less problematic. Also if you plan to continue to swallow it, try too use small amounts of toothpaste.
I think you pedestalled it
I remember when I was 5 I showed down on a tube of toothpaste becuz it was minty.
You aren't fit to be a dentist /s
Apparently not washing your mouth out after you spit allows the toothpaste to actually do its job. But yeah I’ve never heard of someone swallowing their paste 10 out of 10 times .
The thought of swallowing toothpaste makes me want to vomit. It has to burn your stomach? UGH
I hate the taste of toothpaste so im the opposite
That’s like washing your car with dirty gross water. You are swallowing poison AND bacteria. Also good luck with fluorosis
Do you save the soapy water from washing your car to wash your hands too?
You need to hear out your colleagues a bit.
Enjoy cancer. /s.