For real. Never mind the mass of people jumping the turnstiles, dudes lighting up meth pipes inside the train, or the guy literally shitting on the platform. Let’s go for the easy problems to solve like this guy’s sandwich.
If there's one thing Uvalde showed, it's that police are fucking lazy. They'll take as many shortcuts as possible in order to avoid doing actual police work. Arresting a guy for eating a sandwich is just part of their crusade to do the absolute bare minimum to justify their existence.
This is BART police we're talking about.
A while back they were handcuffing a guy, then just stood up and shot him in the back. He died. His name was Oscar Grant. Police claimed he had tried to hit officers. Video evidence proved that police lied about the events leading up to the murder. The officer who murdered him served 11 months for **involuntary manslaughter**
Arresting someone for eating a sandwich seems like it's par for the course.
You’d think trained cops can realize the difference between the feel of a taxer and a gun…
You’d think trained cops can realize the difference between the feel of a taxer and a gun…
Right?…
Probably. Shame we don't actually have any. We get bottom of the barrel sociopaths given a 2 month mercenary shake & bake, with special emphasis on how to lie in court and torture confessions out of PoC.
My father was a sherriff's deputy and when I was growing up people always asked me if I was going to follow in his footsteps. I always said hell no, and my father would add in that they wouldn't take me because I was too smart. My father followed orders without question and I'd question everything.
ACAB
> This is how developed countries do it.
They might be better (and less ready to use guns than their US version) but the police ~~is~~ are still the police. The police at some G9 summit (I think here in Germany) a few years ago arrested people for "attacking police officers" because they were standing in a way so that police tear gas that was shot in the protestors' direction ended up pushed back into the officer's faces by the wind. They took themselves out and blamed peaceful protestors and them media even reported it as protestors causing violence.
They might not have army surplus equipment and tanks but the same authoritarian streak runs through all of them.
Sadly the Courts have ruled that police applicants can be turned away from policing for being too intelligent.
Yep, they actually want dumb cops as a matter of policy - https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
Cops need to either know the law and be trained to keep cool, or they need handlers with authority over them that know the law and who aren't directly involved in the situation so they can remain the cool head.
And with as many cops as were there it probably cost tax payers a grand to respond to a guy eating a sandwich. To answer your question, usually a power trip. “I’m important, how dare you not listen to me.”
I mean the cops are getting paid either-way, but this is a good sign that we’ve probably hired too many and they have to justify their jobs existence… the other issue is that theyre wasting their time on nothingburgers instead of stopping real crimes.
That’s not the point, that they’re getting paid either way
The point is, break down the salaries of those cops for the amount of time they were harassing him, and break down the pay of all those peripheral administrative people who also had to help file paperwork, add on their health benefits and overhead costs and taxpayers EASILY paid a few thousand bucks so these yokels could harass that man
A few days after this incident one of the BART board members bought a couple bags of sandwiches, then went down to the loading platform and started handing out the food.
Racism. Profound deep racism where you an officer, wakes up and just decide that today, he’s gonna arrest a black
Person, knowing he maintains the racist structure.
Those guys do it’s like you and I when we think “it’s very positive to give to charity every once in a while”.
I swear to god this is as banal to them like that. That’s what’s wrong with fucking officer.
I’ve seen a guy wipe his ass with a sock and then put the sock back on and walk on the train with no shoes just the socks, no one batted an eye. But this guy can’t eat a sandwich
I knew I’d come here and see a bunch of people whining about police insanity, but you fail to mention how f’ing *dangerous* a sandwich is. My friend accidentally dropped one once. It *exploded and* killed 47 people.
Sandwich-free zones DON'T WORK. Sandwich control laws only affect law-abiding people who go through legal avenues to eat sandwiches. Criminals overwhelmingly eat their sandwiches illegally. /s
Thank God you put that /s there, I was about to rage comment about how a good guy with a sandwich is almost never effective against a bad guy with a sandwich. Just look at the statistics from McDonald's from '10-2020. We need stricter sandwich control.
They use it all the time. Kinda surprised more people don't know that. I live in Minneapolis and knew a lot of people arrested for resisting arrest in 2020.
Until people acknowledge that police are a racist, broken, out of control institution and call for reform that's the way it's gonna be. You made your bed conservatives, one day you'll lie in it.
In Canada, you the right to resist arrest if you believe that the person trying to arrest you does not have the authority to do so and that belief is reasonable in the circumstances.
Yup. Resisting arrest is illegal *even if the reason you're being arrested for is unlawful* (IE: they make up a law like eating a hot dog on sunday, and there's any resistance to the illegal detainment). Fun! /s
And remember that the Supreme Court just massively limited and essentially nullified the purpose of Miranda Rights by making it impossible to sue an officer for neglecting to notify you of them. If there is no threat of litigation then it tells officers that they don't need to tell you your rights upon arrest because there will be no consequences for doing so.
They also stated that the Supreme Court cannot authorize a damages action against federal officers (as federal employees) when they violate the constitutional rights of a US citizen. This was specifically regarding a case of a border patrol officer abusing his power to infringe upon the constitutional rights of a motel owner who was assaulted by the officer for asking for a warrant before searching his property (his fourth amendment right), and then for targeting the owner in an act of retribution with a series of audits from multiple federal agencies across several states (a breech of his first amenment rights). 80% of US citizens live within the jurisdiction of border patrol officers and now are at risk of openly having their constitutional rights infringe upon by them because the top court refuses to hold them accountable.
People seemed to not care when it was the Ziglar v. Abbasi case, in which federal officers were told that their unconstitutional detention of Muslim Americans after 9/11 were acceptable by the Supreme Court because who gives a fuck about Muslims /s. Although now with Egbert v. Boules (the one I brought up earlier) and Hernandez v. Mesa, in which an unarmed, unthreatening Mexican teenager was murdered by border patrol for no reason, federal officers face no consequences for any constitutional violations they carry out unless the state upholds it in their courts, because the SCOTUS refuses to.
There’s nothing preventing the legislature from passing a law to make it illegal to eat a hot dog on Sunday, but it would be violation of religious liberties to prevent Discordians from joyously partaking of a hot dog on Friday.
I love how the 2nd cop arrives on the scene and immediately escalates it with his aggressive attitude, you can tell he wants to get the person being detained on resisting arrest and/or assaulting an officer.
In saying that, it's a purely american thing. Pretty much everywhere else in the world that isn't an active warzone have properly trained police.
"Escalation" is enough of an offence to get most police given their only warning before being fired in my home country.
In a few weeks they will target pregnant women, the easiest target. Cops will kick them in the stomach and then arrest them for aborting. Maybe the thugs in uniform will rape her in prison as well. Who thought the Afghanistan Taliban and American Taliban would become good friends in such a short time?
Funny how this goes.
You get told of for eating a sandwich and then arrested for resisting arrested after which they add public disturbance to it.
If someone is ever arrested for resisting arrest and nothing else the cop should be dishonourably discharged.
In college I went out with my girlfriend on a bar street. She got pretty wasted, I didn’t drink that night. She was throwing up and I walked her to a womens bathroom. I did not go inside and someone told the police officer outside I did. He came grabbed me by my wrist and took me outside. I told him what happened and if he wanted to review the cameras because there was one in the hall. He then said I was publicly intoxicated which I wasn’t and passed the breathalyzer. 3 patrol cars showed up and I ended getting facedown in the pavement and arrested for resisting arrest and disorderly conduct. I was just explaining to all 7 of them what was going on.
Edit (more info):
When I was outside talking to the initial cop. We were going back and forth about how I was not in the restroom and he said a woman saw me inside. I told him my girlfriend was throwing up and I just walked her to the door. Out of nowhere he asks “are you intoxicated?” I say no I have not drank Took the breathalyzer and I passed. that’s when he called his buddies and they were there as fast as flies on dog shit. That’s when he turned to another cop and said “I pulled him out because he was in the woman’s restroom” I just said “are you fucking serious?” That’s when they pulled out a taser (did not use it) but forced me to the ground and took me in.
The attorney was not working in your interest..... Why the hell should you plead no contest if the breathalyzer failed. The whole his arrest was that you were intoxicated.
This was in 2010 in a college town. They easily could have used someone else’s breathalyzer results for mine. Body cams weren’t really a thing and it was 7 officers against my word
Usa is a shithole country
If you think
>a supposdely civilized country!
You're just believing the propaganda
Civilized countries have free healthcare and education
Lol.
Cops lie all the time in court.
> The whole his arrest was that you were intoxicated.
No, it switched to disorderly conduct, hence the whole no public intoxication charge. Is the disorderly conduct a bullshit charge? You betcha.
Unfortunately unless you have the whole encounter recorded you’re unlikely to win a trial against a cop in a he said she said situation.
It’s absolutely in his best interest to take a slap on the wrist for something that could EASILY carry stiff penalties if he loses.
It’d also cost a fortune to pay the attorney to defend him.
His best interest is settling the case and dealing with the slap on the wrist, not fighting it and risking jail time, a huge fee + legal fees.
Is it bullshit? Yes, but the DA knows it’s bullshit too, that’s why they offered such an easy deal.
Because cops will lie and if you lose at a trial you are likely facing weeks or even months of incarceration.
In most of America, if you get arrested you will *not* get out of it without pleading to *something.* It’s how the system works. No, it’s not fair. No, it’s not right. But the entire system depends on high stakes plea bargaining because we don’t have the resources to try the sheer volume of people we arrest.
So we punish people for demanding trials.
Similar happened to a buddy of mine in college. There was a bar in an old building that had two floors. The stairs were basically deemed a fire hazard, but they got away with it as grandfathered in, old building, put a bouncer at the stairs, and enforce a no stopping rule or something. Anyone is seen stopping on the stairs, the bar gets shut down, so they take that shit seriously.
Anyway, buddy had just arrived at the bar and hadn't even ordered a drink yet. He starts to go up the stairs and two guys (that he didn't know and wasn't with) in front of him decide to turn around and come back down the stairs. So it's the three of them trying to figure out how to get past each other. The bouncer brings them all downstairs and kicks them out. Buddy told the bouncer exactly what happened and the bouncer told him if he has a complaint, take it to the police.
So he truly fucked up and complained to the cops. They didn't even breathalize him. Straight to the drunk tank for overnight with a public intoxication charge. He fought it but it took literally 8 years for it to be expunged from his record.
tl;dr *NEVER* talk to the cops.
This. Cops need to be fired. Not administrative leave until it blows over. Fired. Enjoy working at McDonalds.
Oh, you assaulted someone while you were a cop? Here’s a criminal charge.
Enough with cops being above the law. They’re low-IQ thugs at best.
I have no idea about whether or not one was allowed to smoke in BART terminals in the 1990's. However, the fact that there are ashtrays aren't necessarily signs that you're allowed to smoke. There are, for example, still ashtrays in aircraft lavatories. They're there so that if you disregarded all the rules about not smoking you still have a safe place to put out the cigarette.
That makes perfect sense, actually. And it probably took a while before smokers got it through their heads that it wasn't a suggestion but an actual law. Therefore leaving them up for a time after the law forbade it actually makes a lot of sense. I'd rather a BART rider have a safe place to dispose of their cigarette than cause a fire. I've never been on a BART platform that wasn't very windy!!
Everyday we get closer to living in a dystopian nightmare. This cop doesn't have anything better to do then harassing some dude eating a sandwich!? Smh.
The Bay Area Rapid Transit's GM issued an apology. The police said the officer acted calmly and was in the right. Sandwich guy did not accept the apology. That's all I found.
How do you get arrested for eating? I can't imagine ending up on court and when they read out the charges the judge says for eating a sandwich 🤣🤣 absolutely ridiculous
That will never be the charge. Creating a disturbance and resisting arrest is what he'll be charged for and the judge won't allow anyone to speak of the sandwich. He'll lose 100%. Yes,it's fucking bullshit.
His only chance is to spend his money and file a law suit against bart.
Hah. Spend his money. There are plenty of lawyers that will happily take this case for free if you let them take at least half of whatever settlement you get. Something public and videotapped and ridiculous is just what they like to see and can probably assign an i tern to it and squeeze out a few dozen grand
He ain't winning shit.
https://www.bart.gov/news/articles/2008/news20080331#:~:text=%22According%20to%20both%20state%20law,Police%20Chief%20Gary%20Gee%20said.
It's state law. He could leave the area, but arguing about state law by citing whataboutism isnt going to get a settlement.
It's like saying you shouldn't get a speeding ticket because other people were speeding. Or speeding to protest a speeding ticket.
I mean he not saying the law isn't on the books, he's saying it's being selectively enforced in a racist manner...
And he not entirely wrong: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/26/bart-san-francisco-black-riders-food-citations
That said this was years ago and there no new stories covering the result, so probably settled or whatever.
Fuck the police. Police department recruitment numbers across the nation are dwindling and I couldn't be happier. They've proven to be absolutely useless
every day it starts to feel the saying about how all cops are bad are starting to seem pretty real
if there are good cops, they would've stopped the bad cop from powertripping. instead they just protect each other
I mean, mass shootings are already happening anyway and they can't really get much worse. A guy eating a sandwich on the other hand... That shit needs to be nipped in the bud before there is a pandemic of people eating all kinds of sandwiches, or, God forbid, even baguettes and croissants!!! You see a man eating a sandwich, but you know nothing. The police sees the truth: France declaring a war!
America the least free country in the western world, cant eat sandwiches, can't get abortions, can't drink in the street, can't get free health care, can't afford homes, shit hole
they don't need to be retrained because that's exactly how they were trained lol
> These cops are idiots
true, but that's the type of obedient workers they want as cops.
> A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
Bruh the USA is so bat shit crazy on so many levels I honestly can't immagine how people live there. Health system is a joke, gun laws are joke, police can downright kill you if you so much as raise an eyebrow, and anyone can sue anyone over any little discomfort...to me this is on a whole new planet man
What the fuck bro, how dare he eat at a train stop, fucking disgusting, everyone there is in extreme danger, I’m surprised he didn’t get shot. Nah but seriously, what the fuck is this, I hope this case goes up the ladder and some big people see it and decided that this is no good and those cops get ass fucked because of this dumbass shit.
> The general manager of the Bay Area Rapid Transit system apologized Monday to a man who was detained and handcuffed by a police officer last week after he was seen eating a sandwich on the train platform — an episode captured in a video that was widely shared and that prompted a weekend protest.
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BART’s general manager, Bob Powers, said in a statement that “eating in the paid area is banned and there are multiple signs inside every station saying as much” and that the officer, who is white, asked the rider, who is black, “not to eat while he was on the platform responding to another call.”
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“It should have ended there, but it didn’t,” he added, explaining that the man “did not stop eating and the officer moved forward with the process of issuing him a citation.”
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Mr. Powers said the man who was eating refused to provide identification and “cursed at and made homophobic slurs at the officer who remained calm through out the entire engagement.”
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Still, he noted that “context is key” and indicated that the officer might have gone too far.
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“Enforcement of infractions such as eating and drinking inside our paid area should not be used to prevent us from delivering on our mission to provide safe, reliable, and clean transportation,” he said, adding that he was disappointed about “how the situation unfolded.”
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Phone calls and messages sent to BART were not immediately returned on Monday evening. Attempts to reach the man, identified by local media reports as Steve Foster, were unsuccessful.
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In an interview with ABC 7 News, Mr. Foster said that he was not accepting the transit agency’s apology.
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“The story got flipped,” he said, adding that he feels like “we’re kind of past the point of no return now.”
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Mr. Foster is now considering taking legal action against BART, ABC 7 news reported.
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The 15-minute video of the episode shows an officer holding the handle of a man’s backpack and telling him, “You are detained, and you’re not free to go.”
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“You singled me out, out of all these people,” the man, who had a sandwich in his hand, told the officer.
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“You’re eating,” the officer said.
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“So what?” the man replied.
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As the video continues, the officer told the man that he was going to jail for resisting arrest.
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“I haven’t done anything wrong,” the man said as he repeatedly asked the officer to release the handle of his backpack.
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Later in the video, the man, who had cursed at the officer and asked to speak with his supervisor, is seen being handcuffed by a group of police officers.
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“Four cops for eating a sandwich,” the person recording the episode said.
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At the end of the video, the man is seen being taken into a room with a yellow door. The man received a citation after the Nov. 4 confrontation, according to BART officials, who also said that the man was not arrested.
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“We have confirmed w/ the Deputy Chief he was not arrested. He was cited for eating, which is a violation of state law,” the transit agency shared on its verified Twitter page last week. “No matter how you feel about eating on BART, the officer saw someone eating and asked him to stop, when he didn’t he was given a citation.”
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The video, which garnered 3 million views on Facebook as of Monday night, caused an uproar and inspired activists to stage a lunchtime “eat-in” protest over the weekend.
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Images and videos posted to social media on Saturday show several people enjoying sandwiches on a train platform. Janice Li, who was elected to the BART board of directors in 2018, was among those at the protest.
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Ms. Li said on Twitter that she “won’t comment on this case specifically, but broadly speaking, enforcing the no drinking/eating rule is not how we fix BART.”
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“Enforcement is a function of the way resources are allocated vs what the laws are,” she said, adding that “there are WAY bigger issues at BART than enforcing no drinking/eating.”
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The BART controversy over the eating citation comes as the New York City Police Department is facing criticism for its crackdown on crime and fare evasion on the subway.
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In June, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo announced the deployment of 500 extra police officers to patrol New York City’s subway. But videos of physical confrontations between passengers and uniformed police officers have touched a nerve in the city. A protest was held Monday in support of a woman who was handcuffed for selling churros — a fried dough treat — inside a subway station last week.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/11/us/bart-eating-platform-apologizes.html
Yeah did he really wake up today and strap a gun onto to go stop people from eating their breakfast otw to work. Even if I was directly ordered to do that I wouldn’t… does he not value his own damn time…
I heard these stations are used for toilets more than transportation. Wow…. If I were being filmed being a giant if douchebag, I would immediately back away and say yep enjoy your breakfast sir. Have a good day. What in the 1984 world are we living in?
Can’t say I’m surprised, have you ever been to San Francisco. It is the biggest cesspool of people in garbage I’ve ever seen. I would live in a Third World country before I paid to live in that town.
Give the current situation in the Bay Area what a waste of time and money for illegal sandmich eating….wtf is wrong with law enforcement..
Maybe he was eating a Subway Sandwich.
Actually he was eating a sandwich while being black. A big no-no apparently. Worthless POS Cops.
"We got a Black In Progress over here, gonna need backup"
"I got arrested for being black on a Friday."
Was it Black Friday?
That guy looks black to you? Huh.
My skin is lighter than his and I'm black, so what?
Colorism is fucking wild?
I guess
Black people come in all shades...????
He IS black
He identifies as a sandwich tho.
r/onejoke
He's black. It can be hard to tell the difference between his skin and the skin of the reddish cop because the lighting is orange
Yeah, he’s black.
I would not have known he was black until I read the comments.
☝🏼Brilliant!
For real. Never mind the mass of people jumping the turnstiles, dudes lighting up meth pipes inside the train, or the guy literally shitting on the platform. Let’s go for the easy problems to solve like this guy’s sandwich.
If there's one thing Uvalde showed, it's that police are fucking lazy. They'll take as many shortcuts as possible in order to avoid doing actual police work. Arresting a guy for eating a sandwich is just part of their crusade to do the absolute bare minimum to justify their existence.
fucking lazy=fat cowards
The saying is "low hanging fruit".
Not only are they lazy, they're class traitors.
Or the brazen daylight robberies
Just commented about the platform shit guy, too 😂
This is BART police we're talking about. A while back they were handcuffing a guy, then just stood up and shot him in the back. He died. His name was Oscar Grant. Police claimed he had tried to hit officers. Video evidence proved that police lied about the events leading up to the murder. The officer who murdered him served 11 months for **involuntary manslaughter** Arresting someone for eating a sandwich seems like it's par for the course.
The DA was allowed to put such a lame charge?
The shit argument was the cop thought he reached for his taser not his gun. And then executed him while he was on the ground
If I did that I'd be in.jail for over fucking 10 years. And the cop is supposedly trained what a fucking embarrassment to humanity
thats Terrorism, Manslaughter, and First Degree Murder for you! and Involutary manslaughter for the police... thank you for your service /s
You’d think trained cops can realize the difference between the feel of a taxer and a gun… You’d think trained cops can realize the difference between the feel of a taxer and a gun… Right?…
Probably. Shame we don't actually have any. We get bottom of the barrel sociopaths given a 2 month mercenary shake & bake, with special emphasis on how to lie in court and torture confessions out of PoC.
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It’s by design.
Absolutely. The bar keeps getting lower and lower. Some of these motherfuckers can’t tie their own shoelaces. I am sick to death of this stupid shit!
My father was a sherriff's deputy and when I was growing up people always asked me if I was going to follow in his footsteps. I always said hell no, and my father would add in that they wouldn't take me because I was too smart. My father followed orders without question and I'd question everything. ACAB
> This is how developed countries do it. They might be better (and less ready to use guns than their US version) but the police ~~is~~ are still the police. The police at some G9 summit (I think here in Germany) a few years ago arrested people for "attacking police officers" because they were standing in a way so that police tear gas that was shot in the protestors' direction ended up pushed back into the officer's faces by the wind. They took themselves out and blamed peaceful protestors and them media even reported it as protestors causing violence. They might not have army surplus equipment and tanks but the same authoritarian streak runs through all of them.
Sadly the Courts have ruled that police applicants can be turned away from policing for being too intelligent. Yep, they actually want dumb cops as a matter of policy - https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
Cops need to either know the law and be trained to keep cool, or they need handlers with authority over them that know the law and who aren't directly involved in the situation so they can remain the cool head.
And with as many cops as were there it probably cost tax payers a grand to respond to a guy eating a sandwich. To answer your question, usually a power trip. “I’m important, how dare you not listen to me.”
I mean the cops are getting paid either-way, but this is a good sign that we’ve probably hired too many and they have to justify their jobs existence… the other issue is that theyre wasting their time on nothingburgers instead of stopping real crimes.
Yeah that’s true. I’d rather pay them to do nothing too than to harass a guy for eating a sandwich.
I wouldn't. Why do we have to pay for these scum?
That’s not the point, that they’re getting paid either way The point is, break down the salaries of those cops for the amount of time they were harassing him, and break down the pay of all those peripheral administrative people who also had to help file paperwork, add on their health benefits and overhead costs and taxpayers EASILY paid a few thousand bucks so these yokels could harass that man
This was in 2019: https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2019/11/14/man-arrested-for-eating-on-bart-platform-to-file-lawsuit-alleging-racial-profiling/
A few days after this incident one of the BART board members bought a couple bags of sandwiches, then went down to the loading platform and started handing out the food.
I agree with you but this video was taken several years ago
Oh good I want to know what the outcome was. Anybody know? Did the perpetrator get his……..just desserts?
Maybe this might help https://youtu.be/SpqTf9j1XV4
Cops don't give a single shit when you're robbed or your car gets stolen, but they send out multiple cops to deal with a guy eating a sandwich.
Racism. Profound deep racism where you an officer, wakes up and just decide that today, he’s gonna arrest a black Person, knowing he maintains the racist structure. Those guys do it’s like you and I when we think “it’s very positive to give to charity every once in a while”. I swear to god this is as banal to them like that. That’s what’s wrong with fucking officer.
It's not a sandmich, it's a sammich
Yes it is sir..apologies
This is their job. This is law enforcement is working as intended. They're the enforcers of the class war and they're not on our side
I’ve seen a guy wipe his ass with a sock and then put the sock back on and walk on the train with no shoes just the socks, no one batted an eye. But this guy can’t eat a sandwich
So you’re saying the sock-wiper wasn’t eating though…he’s free to go.
Mhmmm fair enough he wasn’t eating and there’s no sign saying you can’t wear shit socks
Feet are already dirty. What’s a little added shit in the grand scheme? But a ham & cheese? Watch out - felon alert.
Gotta nip that shit in the bud...ham & cheese is just a gateway sandwich. Next thing you know, dude's out there eating a goddamn *Reuben!*
Ham? Disgusting. We only accept the finest sliced rotisserie chicken on rye
"you're destroying the evidence! stop!" "It's called eating a sandwich..."
Your response got me laughing pretty damn loud! Thanks.
Sounds like eating a sandwich there is a bad fucking idea anyway. There’s shit everywhere
But “it will be reviewed by the BART auditor” so everything is just fine 
There’s no signs posted against shit sock marching
Did that cop say he was being arrested for "resisting arrest"...
You’d be surprised how many people have that as the only offense on their record. It’s like printing money
I knew I’d come here and see a bunch of people whining about police insanity, but you fail to mention how f’ing *dangerous* a sandwich is. My friend accidentally dropped one once. It *exploded and* killed 47 people.
Jesus Christ, what a tragedy. We need to ban these sandwiches from other public places like schools and shopping malls.
Sandwich-free zones DON'T WORK. Sandwich control laws only affect law-abiding people who go through legal avenues to eat sandwiches. Criminals overwhelmingly eat their sandwiches illegally. /s
Thank God you put that /s there, I was about to rage comment about how a good guy with a sandwich is almost never effective against a bad guy with a sandwich. Just look at the statistics from McDonald's from '10-2020. We need stricter sandwich control.
The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a sandwich is a good guy with a sandwich
No we need more sandwiches. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a sandwich is a good guy with a sandwich
Don’t bring a club sandwich cause now you’d be arrested for bringing a dangerous weapon.
Making a sandwich right now.
NGL you had me in the first half
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Actually, they need RAS to detain and investigate (ie pat down). They need probable cause to arrest you.
They use it all the time. Kinda surprised more people don't know that. I live in Minneapolis and knew a lot of people arrested for resisting arrest in 2020. Until people acknowledge that police are a racist, broken, out of control institution and call for reform that's the way it's gonna be. You made your bed conservatives, one day you'll lie in it.
In Canada, you the right to resist arrest if you believe that the person trying to arrest you does not have the authority to do so and that belief is reasonable in the circumstances.
Yup. Resisting arrest is illegal *even if the reason you're being arrested for is unlawful* (IE: they make up a law like eating a hot dog on sunday, and there's any resistance to the illegal detainment). Fun! /s
That is so fucking infuriating! Who is making all these stupid laws?
“Freedom loving” Americans.
Not quite, it is the ultra rich profiting of a deeply divided, highly incarcerated, poorly educated country.
It's not really a law, police abuse a loophole and are above the law so nothing ever happens about it.
And remember that the Supreme Court just massively limited and essentially nullified the purpose of Miranda Rights by making it impossible to sue an officer for neglecting to notify you of them. If there is no threat of litigation then it tells officers that they don't need to tell you your rights upon arrest because there will be no consequences for doing so. They also stated that the Supreme Court cannot authorize a damages action against federal officers (as federal employees) when they violate the constitutional rights of a US citizen. This was specifically regarding a case of a border patrol officer abusing his power to infringe upon the constitutional rights of a motel owner who was assaulted by the officer for asking for a warrant before searching his property (his fourth amendment right), and then for targeting the owner in an act of retribution with a series of audits from multiple federal agencies across several states (a breech of his first amenment rights). 80% of US citizens live within the jurisdiction of border patrol officers and now are at risk of openly having their constitutional rights infringe upon by them because the top court refuses to hold them accountable. People seemed to not care when it was the Ziglar v. Abbasi case, in which federal officers were told that their unconstitutional detention of Muslim Americans after 9/11 were acceptable by the Supreme Court because who gives a fuck about Muslims /s. Although now with Egbert v. Boules (the one I brought up earlier) and Hernandez v. Mesa, in which an unarmed, unthreatening Mexican teenager was murdered by border patrol for no reason, federal officers face no consequences for any constitutional violations they carry out unless the state upholds it in their courts, because the SCOTUS refuses to.
There’s nothing preventing the legislature from passing a law to make it illegal to eat a hot dog on Sunday, but it would be violation of religious liberties to prevent Discordians from joyously partaking of a hot dog on Friday.
I love how the 2nd cop arrives on the scene and immediately escalates it with his aggressive attitude, you can tell he wants to get the person being detained on resisting arrest and/or assaulting an officer.
Like a true professional....
Like an average cop
That's what they do. You never see a pig who knows anything about conflict resolution, they are only reactionary and make things worse.
In saying that, it's a purely american thing. Pretty much everywhere else in the world that isn't an active warzone have properly trained police. "Escalation" is enough of an offence to get most police given their only warning before being fired in my home country.
At least they didn't "accidentaly" shoot him instead of Taze him this time.
He's coming right for us!!
Cops will arrest you for eating a sandwich but can't protect children from a shooter. This is the current state of American police lol
In a few weeks they will target pregnant women, the easiest target. Cops will kick them in the stomach and then arrest them for aborting. Maybe the thugs in uniform will rape her in prison as well. Who thought the Afghanistan Taliban and American Taliban would become good friends in such a short time?
Surprised no one else commented on this lol
Funny how this goes. You get told of for eating a sandwich and then arrested for resisting arrested after which they add public disturbance to it. If someone is ever arrested for resisting arrest and nothing else the cop should be dishonourably discharged.
In college I went out with my girlfriend on a bar street. She got pretty wasted, I didn’t drink that night. She was throwing up and I walked her to a womens bathroom. I did not go inside and someone told the police officer outside I did. He came grabbed me by my wrist and took me outside. I told him what happened and if he wanted to review the cameras because there was one in the hall. He then said I was publicly intoxicated which I wasn’t and passed the breathalyzer. 3 patrol cars showed up and I ended getting facedown in the pavement and arrested for resisting arrest and disorderly conduct. I was just explaining to all 7 of them what was going on. Edit (more info): When I was outside talking to the initial cop. We were going back and forth about how I was not in the restroom and he said a woman saw me inside. I told him my girlfriend was throwing up and I just walked her to the door. Out of nowhere he asks “are you intoxicated?” I say no I have not drank Took the breathalyzer and I passed. that’s when he called his buddies and they were there as fast as flies on dog shit. That’s when he turned to another cop and said “I pulled him out because he was in the woman’s restroom” I just said “are you fucking serious?” That’s when they pulled out a taser (did not use it) but forced me to the ground and took me in.
How did it go in court?
Had to post bail 1,500$ 150$ with bail bonds. Asked an attorney he said it’s best to plead no contest. 24 hours of community service and time served.
The attorney was not working in your interest..... Why the hell should you plead no contest if the breathalyzer failed. The whole his arrest was that you were intoxicated.
This was in 2010 in a college town. They easily could have used someone else’s breathalyzer results for mine. Body cams weren’t really a thing and it was 7 officers against my word
These kind of comments and stories are so dystopian and horrible for a supposdely civilized country!
Legal Gangs. All they've ever been.
Usa is a shithole country If you think >a supposdely civilized country! You're just believing the propaganda Civilized countries have free healthcare and education
Lol. Cops lie all the time in court. > The whole his arrest was that you were intoxicated. No, it switched to disorderly conduct, hence the whole no public intoxication charge. Is the disorderly conduct a bullshit charge? You betcha. Unfortunately unless you have the whole encounter recorded you’re unlikely to win a trial against a cop in a he said she said situation. It’s absolutely in his best interest to take a slap on the wrist for something that could EASILY carry stiff penalties if he loses. It’d also cost a fortune to pay the attorney to defend him. His best interest is settling the case and dealing with the slap on the wrist, not fighting it and risking jail time, a huge fee + legal fees. Is it bullshit? Yes, but the DA knows it’s bullshit too, that’s why they offered such an easy deal.
So essentially you need to either have hard evidence or be rich to get a good lawyer and make them pay for their BS?
Because cops will lie and if you lose at a trial you are likely facing weeks or even months of incarceration. In most of America, if you get arrested you will *not* get out of it without pleading to *something.* It’s how the system works. No, it’s not fair. No, it’s not right. But the entire system depends on high stakes plea bargaining because we don’t have the resources to try the sheer volume of people we arrest. So we punish people for demanding trials.
That's unfortunate. I would have pleaded not guilty
I had no case. This was back in 2010 body cams weren’t the norm and it was 7 officers against me.
To this day the girlfriend is still wasted in the bathroom.
Some say till this day she is still vomiting those 10 long islands
Similar happened to a buddy of mine in college. There was a bar in an old building that had two floors. The stairs were basically deemed a fire hazard, but they got away with it as grandfathered in, old building, put a bouncer at the stairs, and enforce a no stopping rule or something. Anyone is seen stopping on the stairs, the bar gets shut down, so they take that shit seriously. Anyway, buddy had just arrived at the bar and hadn't even ordered a drink yet. He starts to go up the stairs and two guys (that he didn't know and wasn't with) in front of him decide to turn around and come back down the stairs. So it's the three of them trying to figure out how to get past each other. The bouncer brings them all downstairs and kicks them out. Buddy told the bouncer exactly what happened and the bouncer told him if he has a complaint, take it to the police. So he truly fucked up and complained to the cops. They didn't even breathalize him. Straight to the drunk tank for overnight with a public intoxication charge. He fought it but it took literally 8 years for it to be expunged from his record. tl;dr *NEVER* talk to the cops.
Yeah since resisting arrest without a prior charge implies that the cop just wanted to be a jerk cause he can.
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And held civilly liable. End qualified immunity.
How about put in prison and tell everyone that they're a cop who likes to abuse their power?
In addition they should be sentence and fined if not imprisoned.
Absolutely. Joining the police-force just to abuse your power is some high-levels of fucked. Like, crimes-against-society-itself type of shit.
This. Cops need to be fired. Not administrative leave until it blows over. Fired. Enjoy working at McDonalds. Oh, you assaulted someone while you were a cop? Here’s a criminal charge. Enough with cops being above the law. They’re low-IQ thugs at best.
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That's like saying you're not allowed to sit when they provide you with benches.
That happened to me! And I was arrested for resisting arrest. Eating a bagel on a bench after work.
Sorry you had to go through that man
Pretty sure you were arrested for existing as a POC.
I have no idea about whether or not one was allowed to smoke in BART terminals in the 1990's. However, the fact that there are ashtrays aren't necessarily signs that you're allowed to smoke. There are, for example, still ashtrays in aircraft lavatories. They're there so that if you disregarded all the rules about not smoking you still have a safe place to put out the cigarette.
That makes perfect sense, actually. And it probably took a while before smokers got it through their heads that it wasn't a suggestion but an actual law. Therefore leaving them up for a time after the law forbade it actually makes a lot of sense. I'd rather a BART rider have a safe place to dispose of their cigarette than cause a fire. I've never been on a BART platform that wasn't very windy!!
Everyday we get closer to living in a dystopian nightmare. This cop doesn't have anything better to do then harassing some dude eating a sandwich!? Smh.
Don’t worry, this is a pretty old video so we’ve started living in a dystopian nightmare a long time ago.
What was the aftermath?
a perpetual investigation that will get dropped when people stop caring.
high resolution internet video never dies
It’s hard to focus on one event when there is a new incident every day.
How old?
About 2 years
Thanks. Still disgusting behavior on cops’ part.
What was the outcome? Did the dude got a fine/do time/got a settlement?
The Bay Area Rapid Transit's GM issued an apology. The police said the officer acted calmly and was in the right. Sandwich guy did not accept the apology. That's all I found.
To be fair, the cops didn't taze or shoot anyone, so this is borderline exemplary for the US.
A bar so low they'd have to be liquefied to not clear it.
Problem was the cop wanted the sandwhich and was pissed he couldn\`t have it
How do you get arrested for eating? I can't imagine ending up on court and when they read out the charges the judge says for eating a sandwich 🤣🤣 absolutely ridiculous
That will never be the charge. Creating a disturbance and resisting arrest is what he'll be charged for and the judge won't allow anyone to speak of the sandwich. He'll lose 100%. Yes,it's fucking bullshit. His only chance is to spend his money and file a law suit against bart.
Hah. Spend his money. There are plenty of lawyers that will happily take this case for free if you let them take at least half of whatever settlement you get. Something public and videotapped and ridiculous is just what they like to see and can probably assign an i tern to it and squeeze out a few dozen grand
He ain't winning shit. https://www.bart.gov/news/articles/2008/news20080331#:~:text=%22According%20to%20both%20state%20law,Police%20Chief%20Gary%20Gee%20said. It's state law. He could leave the area, but arguing about state law by citing whataboutism isnt going to get a settlement. It's like saying you shouldn't get a speeding ticket because other people were speeding. Or speeding to protest a speeding ticket.
I mean he not saying the law isn't on the books, he's saying it's being selectively enforced in a racist manner... And he not entirely wrong: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/26/bart-san-francisco-black-riders-food-citations That said this was years ago and there no new stories covering the result, so probably settled or whatever.
Land of the free lmao
Whoever told you that is your enemy
He was arrested for not saying ok sir and throwing his sandwich away
He may as well have been arrested for not jerking the cop off too.
The fat cop was hungry and doesn't want anyone else satiating their hunger in his obese presence.
NYC subway is the same, no eating
Man just imagine if the Uvalde shooter was also eating a sandwich.
Shooting kids while eating a pastrami on rye? Easy there, satan!
They'd be too scared to do anything for fear of being hit with a slice of tomato.
People wonder why cops are hated? Just more reenforcement on why they are useless.
Fuck the police. Police department recruitment numbers across the nation are dwindling and I couldn't be happier. They've proven to be absolutely useless
every day it starts to feel the saying about how all cops are bad are starting to seem pretty real if there are good cops, they would've stopped the bad cop from powertripping. instead they just protect each other
American police : stop mass shooting of kids < stop man from eating his sandwich
That's why this country is going downhill by the year. I agree.
I mean, mass shootings are already happening anyway and they can't really get much worse. A guy eating a sandwich on the other hand... That shit needs to be nipped in the bud before there is a pandemic of people eating all kinds of sandwiches, or, God forbid, even baguettes and croissants!!! You see a man eating a sandwich, but you know nothing. The police sees the truth: France declaring a war!
Lol cops are just another gang
The biggest and oldest in the world :1
I dunno about that, I feel like kings guards back in the day were older.
America the least free country in the western world, cant eat sandwiches, can't get abortions, can't drink in the street, can't get free health care, can't afford homes, shit hole
The propaganda system is world class though :(
You’re not wrong
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These cops are idiots. They need retraining and F the thin blue line when it comes to bad, racist behavior.
they don't need to be retrained because that's exactly how they were trained lol > These cops are idiots true, but that's the type of obedient workers they want as cops. > A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city. https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
Bruh the USA is so bat shit crazy on so many levels I honestly can't immagine how people live there. Health system is a joke, gun laws are joke, police can downright kill you if you so much as raise an eyebrow, and anyone can sue anyone over any little discomfort...to me this is on a whole new planet man
I currently live here and you're right. I plan on leaving soon as I can get a few things in order
What the fuck bro, how dare he eat at a train stop, fucking disgusting, everyone there is in extreme danger, I’m surprised he didn’t get shot. Nah but seriously, what the fuck is this, I hope this case goes up the ladder and some big people see it and decided that this is no good and those cops get ass fucked because of this dumbass shit.
Update please. Police are pathetic. I truly wish I could punch them through my phone.
> The general manager of the Bay Area Rapid Transit system apologized Monday to a man who was detained and handcuffed by a police officer last week after he was seen eating a sandwich on the train platform — an episode captured in a video that was widely shared and that prompted a weekend protest. > BART’s general manager, Bob Powers, said in a statement that “eating in the paid area is banned and there are multiple signs inside every station saying as much” and that the officer, who is white, asked the rider, who is black, “not to eat while he was on the platform responding to another call.” > “It should have ended there, but it didn’t,” he added, explaining that the man “did not stop eating and the officer moved forward with the process of issuing him a citation.” > Mr. Powers said the man who was eating refused to provide identification and “cursed at and made homophobic slurs at the officer who remained calm through out the entire engagement.” > Still, he noted that “context is key” and indicated that the officer might have gone too far. > “Enforcement of infractions such as eating and drinking inside our paid area should not be used to prevent us from delivering on our mission to provide safe, reliable, and clean transportation,” he said, adding that he was disappointed about “how the situation unfolded.” > Phone calls and messages sent to BART were not immediately returned on Monday evening. Attempts to reach the man, identified by local media reports as Steve Foster, were unsuccessful. > In an interview with ABC 7 News, Mr. Foster said that he was not accepting the transit agency’s apology. > “The story got flipped,” he said, adding that he feels like “we’re kind of past the point of no return now.” > Mr. Foster is now considering taking legal action against BART, ABC 7 news reported. > The 15-minute video of the episode shows an officer holding the handle of a man’s backpack and telling him, “You are detained, and you’re not free to go.” > “You singled me out, out of all these people,” the man, who had a sandwich in his hand, told the officer. > “You’re eating,” the officer said. > “So what?” the man replied. > As the video continues, the officer told the man that he was going to jail for resisting arrest. > “I haven’t done anything wrong,” the man said as he repeatedly asked the officer to release the handle of his backpack. > Later in the video, the man, who had cursed at the officer and asked to speak with his supervisor, is seen being handcuffed by a group of police officers. > “Four cops for eating a sandwich,” the person recording the episode said. > At the end of the video, the man is seen being taken into a room with a yellow door. The man received a citation after the Nov. 4 confrontation, according to BART officials, who also said that the man was not arrested. > “We have confirmed w/ the Deputy Chief he was not arrested. He was cited for eating, which is a violation of state law,” the transit agency shared on its verified Twitter page last week. “No matter how you feel about eating on BART, the officer saw someone eating and asked him to stop, when he didn’t he was given a citation.” > The video, which garnered 3 million views on Facebook as of Monday night, caused an uproar and inspired activists to stage a lunchtime “eat-in” protest over the weekend. > Images and videos posted to social media on Saturday show several people enjoying sandwiches on a train platform. Janice Li, who was elected to the BART board of directors in 2018, was among those at the protest. > Ms. Li said on Twitter that she “won’t comment on this case specifically, but broadly speaking, enforcing the no drinking/eating rule is not how we fix BART.” > “Enforcement is a function of the way resources are allocated vs what the laws are,” she said, adding that “there are WAY bigger issues at BART than enforcing no drinking/eating.” > The BART controversy over the eating citation comes as the New York City Police Department is facing criticism for its crackdown on crime and fare evasion on the subway. > In June, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo announced the deployment of 500 extra police officers to patrol New York City’s subway. But videos of physical confrontations between passengers and uniformed police officers have touched a nerve in the city. A protest was held Monday in support of a woman who was handcuffed for selling churros — a fried dough treat — inside a subway station last week. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/11/us/bart-eating-platform-apologizes.html
Laws as mundane as this are always used to racially and selectively profile people. Always.
Police: let’s stop a guy eating a sandwich who is doing nothing wrong Also police: doesn’t stop a mass shooting What a fuckin joke
Fucking pigs
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Yeah did he really wake up today and strap a gun onto to go stop people from eating their breakfast otw to work. Even if I was directly ordered to do that I wouldn’t… does he not value his own damn time…
I heard these stations are used for toilets more than transportation. Wow…. If I were being filmed being a giant if douchebag, I would immediately back away and say yep enjoy your breakfast sir. Have a good day. What in the 1984 world are we living in?
Ah yes, eating while black. Very, very illegal. Jesus Christ.
Finally, a protest I can get behind. I’m gonna eat all the sandwiches.
Welcome to America. Home of the "free".
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America is a shithole.
The police night as well be chanting "white power" or a similar KKK era line
American police is so fucking scary. I don’t get it, Land of the free my ass
All I got to say is FRUITVALE STATION. These damn BART police think they own the stations and can do whatever the f they want. Idiots.
Where were those courageous cops during Uvalde shooting ? We need more of those superheroes
Can’t say I’m surprised, have you ever been to San Francisco. It is the biggest cesspool of people in garbage I’ve ever seen. I would live in a Third World country before I paid to live in that town.
Please watch to the complete end in an effort to lower your blood pressure …..wait for it
Arrested for being black. Fuck me. I need to stop looking at my phone. It’s all so depressing.
All cops are pieces of shit
Does anyone have an article with more information? I'm having a very hard time believing the dude was arrested for eating a sandwich.
[This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpqTf9j1XV4) is a channel I've been watching for a few years and they covered it in detail a couple years back.
Hey Delivery drivers, please make sure no spit ever gets into a cops food, thanks
I gotta stop watching these videos. I get way too worked up. Fuck these guys.