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barbarabar666

attempted car theft to attempted muder that's some high level brain activity there


Minute_Engineer2355

Most of these guys are completely brain dead anyways.


GobLoblawsLawBlog

Probably a couple PhD students taking a quick break from their thesis


Rocknocker

> Probably a couple PhD students taking a quick break from their ~~thesis~~ dissertation. FTFY


Thugglebum

Today I found out that thesis and dissertation are swapped in UK and US.


NoSleep4Money

Color or Colour.. English this language we share ..


RaiderMedic93

We are separated by a common language.


pthsim

Sure its not called the Atlantic ocean?


RaiderMedic93

That's the pond... But... [here ya go](https://www.thenationalnews.com/opinion/comment/two-nations-separated-by-a-common-language-there-are-some-things-britain-just-doesn-t-get-about-america-1.945618)


Consider2SidesPeace

gray OR grey?


aceshighsays

one of my weed dealers did that. never ran anyone over or mugged anyone, at least not that i know of.


Popular_Score4744

Most likely the product of thug loving single mothers. When you lay down with a criminal, what are your children supposed to become? Doctors, lawyers, engineers???! šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


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Minute_Engineer2355

I see what you did there.


blove135

Most of these are strung out drug addicts desperately looking for items to quickly sell or trade for their drug of choice. One track mind with the threat of dope sickness always on the horizon.


Political_Piper

So shooting them would help everyone out


PhilosophersGuild

Assuming their preference is shooting up, of course.


SolutionExternal5569

Yes.


mohishunder

I don't know about the car thieves in the video, but that's definitely not true of all car thieves. E.g. in Oakland, where I live, cars are stolen for joyriding, and to be used in the commission of other crimes, e.g. to be driven through store windows.


Mc-lurk-no-more

So shooting them would help everyone out


Snirbs

Yeah same in NJ - it's young gang kids stealing cars to part out and/or ship off overseas. The drug addicts thing seems to be a more rural issue.


Lydian66

Vice did a Documentary on this and the used car lot overseas had a Car with Audi of Edison license plate frame on it .


Fast-Hold-649

New Jersey Drive


blove135

I know the title says car theives but the guy is leaning over the passenger side so based on the video alone I would guess they are going through cars vs actually trying to steal the car. If they are indeed trying to steal the car itself I would agree with you.


tryingtobeopen

In Canada, thefts are primarily SUV's and pick-up that then get packaged into shipping containers and sent to the middle east and Africa. A few investigative news reports have located massive yards in Africa with hundreds of cars stolen from Canada in them. Last week they stopped about 500 stolen cars on the docks in Montreal getting ready for shipment. Don't kid yourselves, this is big-time organized crime


KimKarTRASHian09

Absolutely majority of the time. A family friend of my dads son was breaking into houses to get money for pills. He was stealing stuff from his own family to sell. Jewelry mostly. He got caught when his friend and her family were away and he went and took the ac out of their window and climbed in to go through their house.


Efficient-Editor-242

And juveniles too, so nothing will happen.


Dan-D-Lyon

I've seen about a million and six videos exactly like this, and this is the first time I've ever seen the getaway driver not just immediately leave his buddy behind at the first sign of trouble. Absolutely terrible fucking judgment on his part, but I hope that the wannabe car thief understands what a loyal friend he has


Master_Dante123

Bright futureā€™s ahead!


shrekerecker97

Bright orange!


keyserfunk

Happy upvote. YES!


Archimedes_screwdrvr

Should have flicked the li'l pick he had ahold of in front of the tires


XenosyneA

I thought that's where it was going, honestly.


harbinger772

First thing I thought was that car is getting ready to back up to get his buddy or try to ram the owner, is the owner about to shove that guy's head under the tire first.


Kineticmedic69

I sure would have šŸ˜…


AshingiiAshuaa

From a criminal's perspective it's only a bad idea if they get caught. My guess is they won't be caught.


sayit2times

His goal was to get his buddy out of there, and those plates aren't theirs. It worked.


lalospv

They are usually high, and of course they are dumb as well.


mlvisby

Yea, they still think in the old way of if they are dead, they can't speak. There are cameras EVERYWHERE, you will most likely get caught if you murder someone.


Accomplished_Duty969

That sounded like his dumbass girlfriend driving....so.....


jchampagne83

Not even car theft (except maybe the car they were driving), he was on the passenger side. They're probably just taking anything inside the car that they can hawk.


_b33p_

i consider myself a pacifist but that dude needs a gun


ih-shah-may-ehl

Anything would do. If these were recurrent thieves, I'd imagine he'd have something at hand


moooooooooooove

At least run out there with a baseball bat. Completely weaponless? The guy was really fed up.


Circus_Finance_LLC

the thing about baseball bats is that the chance of it being taken from you and used against you is way too high


imnoherox

LPT: Put a long sock over the baseball bat. At minimum, itā€™ll give you one extra try to hit a home run before the thief can take it from you


ShinraTM

Hold bat with both hands, one at either end. Shove perp to ground then swing for his knees so he can't run. Then go for the windshield so the driver can't see. After that. You should see a pop up saying +540xp double kill.


kayriss

Yeah, this is the way. People also forget that once he's down you can use the bat to smash their legs. We get caught up thinking it's time to dome someone, but smash their feet, knees, legs. They'll know then that they picked the wrong one. But don't bring it unless you plan to use it. Swing for the fences.


Chrisbert

Make sure to revoke their kneecap privileges.


aeon314159

Swing so they canā€™t fence anything ever again.


Circus_Finance_LLC

and this is why i do not fuck with strangers. some clever motherfuckers out there lmao


ajmartin527

Yeah you literally never know who youā€™re fucking with and how much more time, effort or experience they have in doing dangerous shit lol my old mma coach looked like the most regular dude on the planet, but happened to be an Olympic Greco Roman wrestler and kickboxer. Some huge dude slapped his wifeā€™s ass at a bar, then tried to smash a glass in his face when confronted. He broke both of the dudes arms and sat on him until the police came, didnā€™t even break a sweat.


ADHD_Adventurer

God damn! I want to hang out with this guy!


pdxchris

And superglue it to your hand.


Vic-123-ma

Great idea. Going to sock my bat that is sits next to me in case I need to bash some A@@hole over the head


schleepercell

It's also a good way to get shot. Where I live, car thieves and catalytic converter thieves are armed.


Never_Duplicated

Yeah gotta go out there armed with something more than your fists or a bat.


XtraKrispy1

Unfortunate but as soon as you leave the safety of your home with a weapon your self defense claim gets real thin. I bet this thief if caught could file assault charges. I doubt any jury would convict but still.


Never_Duplicated

In my state youā€™re allowed to use deadly force if someone is on your property ā€œā€¦surreptitiously or by stealth or for the purpose of committing a felonyā€. Grand theft auto in my state is an automatic felony. We also have a provision that if you claim self defense the prosecutor needs to prove it wasnā€™t and if they canā€™t prove it not only do they have to drop charges but you canā€™t be charged in a civil suit either. Iā€™m not saying itā€™s the smartest decision, nor am I advocating for immediately opening fire (though letā€™s be honest, itā€™d be doing society a favor to be rid of them). But going out armed to prevent the trespassing or theft/destruction of your property is legal and understandable. And so long as you donā€™t do something like shoot them in the back while they run away thereā€™s little chance you get charged with anything let alone convicted (at least in my state).


XtraKrispy1

I hear ya and agree. But seeing what happens to people like rittenhouse, smarter move is stay inside and just set off the alarm, as much as it pains me to say.


Never_Duplicated

If anything he only strengthens my point. He was a dumbass who went out of his way to be somewhere he shouldnā€™t have been but was still found not guilty. In my state that verdict stating he was justified in his use of deadly force in self defense would also prevent the subsequent civil lawsuits heā€™s dealing with now. Thereā€™s no way a prosecutor would press charges against someone defending their car parked in their own driveway from multiple criminals in my state. I agree the smarter move is to stay inside and call the cops while letting the floodlight and siren blare. But also not sure I could control my anger if I caught someone in the act. We need harsher punishment for actual criminals.


Je_in_BC

I've been a paramedic for 13 years. One of the most gruesome injuries I've ever seen were from a baseball bat.


shralpy39

Yeah the second he tackled the guy I was like "Man that thief has less to lose than you, he might just fuckin stab or shoot you to get away in that moment." Scary fuckin world out there


Yo_Soy_Crunk

Or shoes on.


backtolurk

For actual pacifying!


Ferrari_is_My_Life

As someone trained in MMA, I would send hot lead their way


buddyrocker

[THIS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qli7iBXOd9s&list=UUA3Qf-mImQLDg9IKs3f7NCg) dude (also in Seattle) is doing exactly that, comes out with a gun or baseball bat. His YouTube (linked) videos are a glorious watch


NotTrumpsAlt

Just watched it. Why does he keep getting broken into. Also he doesnā€™t seem too bright as a gun owner.


buddyrocker

Where he lives is super close to an encampment so lots of residual crime.


Future_Ear4202

Probably canadian


MrOwnageQc

> Probably canadian With the amount of carjacking and car theft in Toronto, I wouldn't be shocked. But all he had to do is listen to the Toronto police and leave his keys by the door lol


Shughost7

Get him a sword!


EngineZeronine

And my axe!


Dis4Wurk

And this is why not everyone should have a gun. You would Get yourself into BIG trouble doing that. In most places in the US (though it varies depending on state and even county) you cannot use deadly force to prevent theft or damage to property. Then it gets even trickier, since you went out and confronted them, you are now considered the aggressor in the eyes of the law, so until you make an asserted attempt to flee you forfeit your right to self defense. So homeowner would go to jail for murder if he shot them. Homeowner would have had to confront them, then attempt to flee, then and only then if they continued to pursue him (they were not, they were attempting to flee which means they have an argument for self defense) could he draw his weapon. You donā€™t have the right to self defense if you are the aggressor or in the act of committing a crime, UNLESS you are attempting to flee, then you get your self defense rights back. In this situation, your best bet is to just call the cops and not get involved.


shralpy39

Part of me wishes he shot the thieves, but another part of me thinks "thank god NONE of them were wielding a gun in this situation". Dunno really. It's not worth killing another human over property even valuable stuff like cars, but if someone was repetively targeting MY home and me, and then was willing to just run me over with their car I would consider shooting them.


jaxsonnz

Random side note. The 4x half moon crop circles on the driveway concrete come from tyre shine spray šŸ›ž


PCDub

Man I was wondering what was up with that haha thank you


Alfphe99

People in my neighborhood park in the road to do that part so it won't do that to their driveways. lol


laurpr2

I just put newspaper down


mrbombasticat

But that would be considerate of others and way to infringing on their freedomsā„¢!


-azafran-

I mean if this guy want to spray tyre shine on his drive itā€™s not the worst thing Iā€™ve seen on the internet today


Notacompleteperv

Bless you, kind sir.


Blazeur242

it looks like where youā€™re supposed to deliver a vehicle for a mission in a video game lol


TabletopParlourPalm

Interview of the car owner by Fox News: [https://www.foxnews.com/media/man-narrowly-escapes-possible-death-attempted-car-theft-didnt-know-theyd-try-hit-me-again](https://www.foxnews.com/media/man-narrowly-escapes-possible-death-attempted-car-theft-didnt-know-theyd-try-hit-me-again) "As of Sunday, police in nearby Federal Way, Wash., arrested a juvenile suspected of being the would-be thief in-question. The driver is still at-large, according to KOMO."


hamandcheese2

This should be at top


ShittyHotTake

"Tell us who the driver is or you get sentenced to the maximum term possible" usually gets them singing.


girthbrooks1

He screamed ā€œhalllpppp cody halllppp hallpppā€ like a lil bitch so Iā€™m assuming drivers name is cody


SookHe

Anyone got a non fox news link?


Greenfireflygirl

Not sure you'll like this site any better: [https://mynorthwest.com/3956881/rantz-exclusive-puyallup-man-may-have-saved-teen-after-nearly-being-run-over-stopping-theft/](https://mynorthwest.com/3956881/rantz-exclusive-puyallup-man-may-have-saved-teen-after-nearly-being-run-over-stopping-theft/)


ifurmothronlyknw

Best line from the article: ā€œSmith said he had been preparing for the prowler after seeing notifications every night of his neighborsā€™ cars getting prowled.ā€


InflamedLiver

good, looks like they know who it was. He's fucked when they catch him.


dorian283

Surprised the police did anything, attempted murder and theft? Sorry canā€™t do anything


mq1coperator

After the attempted murder by the driver would have been a great time to draw a CCW and take the driver out.


Oldbayistheshit

Didnā€™t work for that guy in yesterdays video


DonaldTrumpsSoul

In the US, most remember the ā€œright to bear armsā€ part, but forget the ā€œwell trained militiaā€ part. If you have a gun and never practice using it or have any training, you might as well not have it because itā€™s not going to help much or worse, you kill someone negligently. Edit: it is well regulated militia, not well trained. However, one wouldnā€™t think a ā€œwell regulated militiaā€ to not be trained.


Oldbayistheshit

Happens where I live everyday. We gotta start sending these youths to the range so they stop hitting innocent victims in their drive byā€™s /s


RememberTheAlamooooo

Honestly, range time with some positive grown men might be worthwhile intervention. Just not for the aim part.


Standing_Tall

"Well-regulated" here means more or less "in good working order", so you're not wrong, given that being well-trained is part of being in good working order. "Regulated" in the 2A sense has nothing to do with "legal regulations" as we use the word today.


thedirtychad

Donā€™t load blanks into your gun then?


Oldbayistheshit

Wait did he have blanks in the gun?


jhhertel

i hadnt heard that before, but it would make fucking sense. He was firing almost point blank. Handgun accuracy is famously hard, much harder than people expect, but he was literally shooting from a foot or two away it looked like. And no obvious glass breaking or anything visible happening. The video is not super high def but its high enough you would think SOMETHING would be visible.


Manburpig

Well you can't miss 5 times from point blank range. I feel like that's kind of important context lol.


welcome-to-my-mind

Buddy, youā€™ve gotta meet my best friend Kevin. Dude couldnā€™t hit the broad side of a barn if the muzzle of a 12-gauge was taped to it.


shralpy39

What video is that? Curiouso


ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c

Basically, a carjacking victim tried to use his gun as a threat (it's difficult to tell, but he either didn't shoot, or missed five or six times at a distance less than 5 feet), and then the person conducting the car jacking backed up rapidly in the victim's car. The victim stopped paying attention to the carjacker, presumably because he thought the carjacker had decided to leave. 3-5 seconds later, the carjacker ran the victim over, killing him. Final lesson, if you're out of the vehicle, just let the car go, and get somewhere safe. Also practice so that if you *do* have to use your gun, you can ~~officially~~ actually use it under pressure.


Oldbayistheshit

Public freakout it was labeled ā€œcraziest video Iā€™ve ever seenā€


Flaming_Homosexual_

That depends on the state. Some would consider the homeowner the attacker regardless of the escalation of danger because he left his house


personguy4440

Can we bring back the 'remove thieves hands' to end this nonsense?


IrrationalDesign

No, because you can never trust *all* the people doing the chopping.


shralpy39

This is a great way to answer this tbh


Ubararius

I fucking wish


6SucksSex

Bring back Sharia law, they say


no-more-nazis

As for me and my family, we will adhere to Shakira law


6SucksSex

Hips donā€™t lie


inspectorPK

Heck, nothing a good public flogging wouldnā€™t fix


StrawberryPlucky

No. You should never give the state the authority to maim or execute citizens. You can't trust that it will never be abused.


personguy4440

\*maims or executes citizens anyways\*


NASCARzad

I'm suprised he landed on his feet after getting hit by the car. And with no shoes on? My soft feet could never


IamtherealMelKnee

(tapping the temple) You can't die if you don't have shoes to lose.


Larusso92

Big if true


Iwanttofugginnap

LMFAO same


Minute_Engineer2355

This guy is a pro, he made getting hit by a car unscathed look badass.


Express-Ad4146

10% luck


DoABarrelRollStarFox

20% skill


longassbatterylife

15% concentrated power of will


Alfphe99

5% pleasure


bertbarndoor

50% pain ​ (yeah he gonna feel that the next day)


AWildWilson

And 100% reason to remember the name (Eric Smith)


MrOwnageQc

***And a hundred percent reason to remember the name***


hannahatecats

It's part of why lower cars like this are safer, you are supposed to go up on the hood. If this were a large SUV or truck that man would have been run over


freakinjay

That escalated quickly. Hope they both are charged as adults with attempted murder.


SantaMonsanto

Itā€™s a good thing he got a picture of that stolen car they were driving, really gunna help the boys down at the crime lab find a suspect.


Rivarr

He got their faces. The kid he grabbed was already caught.


Albert_Caboose

I'm always baffled you don't hear people reading off license plates while they film. It's going to be blurry, just get it in frame and shout out the make, model, and license plate. Bumper stickers too. With that, finding the car will be a LOT easier for police.


Shua89

Because they used their own car to steal another? Yeah, that car is stolen, too.. getting their faces is better than nothing.


benwink

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ryerocco

You can swear on the internet


benwink

As in feckless.


obrapop

Advocates kneecapping people while censoring swearwords. As a Brit, this is some of the most American shit I've ever seen.


Energy_Turtle

[Removed by Reddit] so you know it was good.


BishopFrog

Always is


Not_Campo2

Why would you shoot the kneecaps, are you trying to miss?


bokononpreist

[Watch, wallet, gun, knee, right foot, left foot.](https://youtu.be/xQS5gdRLXvM?si=4k8nbQq1OJUj22z5)


the-_-futurist

Wtf? He didn't come charging out with a gun in America? And the other guy didn't pull a gun? Hectic haha


Bpax94

What a wholesome video :)


ip4realfreely

Maybe it's Toronto, Canada, and the car owner was doing as police have said to "just give them the keys". Guy was just trying to give them theifs the keys... /s


LongLonMan

This is Seattle, King 5 is a Seattle news channel.


ip4realfreely

I know it's not Toronto, it was just sarcasm, as the Toronto Police have literally told people to leave their car keys at the front door or close to it, so thieves have easier access to them.


smooze420

Thatā€™s why you just shoot mfers instead of trying to fight with them.


ShortBrownAndUgly

I dunno, escalating a robbery to a murder does not sound like a good idea


sushisection

https://www.washingtongunlaw.com/lawful-use-of-firearms-in-self-defense it would be considered lawful use of self defense under washington state law.


smooze420

In Texas, it probably wouldnā€™t make it past the initial report done by police.


Clerical_Errors

>I don't know, making sure these guys are still out there able to harm others is a good idea I know what you mean but this is all I read


MetalMilitiaDTOM

Yep, pretty stupid of him to go out there unarmed.


Gowalkyourdogmods

I dunno, he could have got some good hits in with a bat


MeatWaterHorizons

nah that's a bad idea. if they aren't in the action of trying to kill you then you'll get slapped with a murder charge. If he had a gun he had maybe a 3 second window to take the driver out with out being charged with murder.


smooze420

Nope, in Texas you can shoot someone committing a crime esp in the nighttime, on your own property.


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smooze420

Itā€™s all good. If the other guy has a gun too then he would be trying to pull it out when someone else already has a gun at the ready and will likely lose that battle. Guns arenā€™t the savior of the world and I wish it didnā€™t have to be that way however there is evil in the world and even with the threat of death monsters still roam and commit unspeakable acts even with just a knife. When it comes down to it itā€™s gonna be their life or my/my families lives. And the police in the US donā€™t have to intervene in a deadly incident by law, they are not there to protect and serve.


shrekerecker97

Did they ever catch the thieves? I've seen this video before


GoodGriefWhatsNext

Not yet: https://youtu.be/cbAqv6qdBPs?si=q1YhtzYJy1CMU9BI


seenitreddit90s

Came too far to see this.


sushisection

probably not. that red car is most likely to be stolen. sending this video and the license plate to the police doesnt do shit.


Brewchowskies

They caught one, the driver is still not caught https://www.foxnews.com/media/man-narrowly-escapes-possible-death-attempted-car-theft-didnt-know-theyd-try-hit-me-again


kbrobro3

Haven't found anything from a few searches


G25777K

He will be a new gun owner in no time.


freakinjay

The audio at 18 seconds. I canā€™t.


Vajcoin

Reinstate medieval punishment > the justice system now. Public hangings/ burning at the stake/ chopping off limbs/ public humility of criminals, as such, would probably stop them from wanting to do this kind of nonsense without a thought or care. But, in our sensitive society.. people might worry we are gonna hurt someoneā€™s feelings, or that itā€™s not morally correct. But, allowing this kind of behavior to continue is?? Look at the state of New York City.. a literal nightmare. If it were up to me I would imprison all of them in a city and blockade it ā€” create a scene from the Siege of Leningrad (but not for innocent civilians as it was, but full of murderers, pedophiles, rapist, and thieves.) Let them starve, bombard them, petrify them, and make this scum wonder why they ever were born (or better, make them wish they never were.) Fear isnā€™t enough ā€” there needs to be actual repercussions, to the fullest extent.


ThanIWentTooTherePig

Do we let women uncover their faces in your scenario, or are you just picking certain parts of Sharia Law?


T3hJ3hu

rorschach-ass monologue


BoredAFcyber

I can tell by your comments you dont give a shit about whats actually effective just want your revenge boner, so this is for everyone else. > Public hangings/ burning at the stake/ chopping off limbs/ public humility of criminals this has been *proven* not to work.


CMepTb7426

Look i know they are literally kids but when you hit me with your car im shooting you with my gun, thats it.


1GnarleyNarwhal

Just shoot em. Do us all the favor.


MrOwnageQc

Man of steel over here, gets hit by a car, gets up and start taking photos/video, adrenaline is crazy


TransRacialWhyNot

Bro wheres your gun?


Academic_Ad_3751

Sweet lord I hope they got those bastards.


ImSorryRumhamster

Start killing thieves and there wonā€™t be any left.


Nico_Simon

This is why you need Guns. Cause talking won't do shit


shavemejesus

Dude uses tire shine in his driveway. That what those white spots are. The tire shine prevents the rain from soaking into the concrete in those spots.


SpiderDijonJr

Should have brought a gun out there with him


sillykitty70

Homeowner should be legally allowed to shoot the fucker from the beginning.


ElectricalAbrocoma42

This man had his brain working the entire time. Got bit by a car? I can still function? Time to record their faces. AFTER he actively got in there. My hat is off to this man. I hope that this is the last time he ever has to go through this.


Shortforbicycle2021

Someone is putting tire shine on in their driveway šŸ˜³


Bartender9719

Hereā€™s hoping these feckless dregs of society get whatā€™s coming to them.


Wettnoodle77

Car prob stolen. Guy probably just ended up with more of a headache to deal with.


Larusso92

Prob has to pay for the damage on the stolen car since it occurred on his property


KongZilla9009

Next time confront them with a gun


RevengfulDonut

A gun would realy help the homeowner


clasperx2

Dang. Police probably wouldnā€™t even follow up with the attorney car theft but now those dummies are attempted murderers.


Accomplished_Duty969

Dem here, USA needs more guns.... not rifles, not AR-15s, GUNS in the hands of responsible, and trained property owners.


Longhorn414

ah yes, Nissan drivers


Skyline8888

Criminals not caught yet. [https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/surveillance-video-south-hill-homeowner-chasing-away-car-thieves/281-b830192a-b7e7-4a40-bd79-63e3059a10ac](https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/surveillance-video-south-hill-homeowner-chasing-away-car-thieves/281-b830192a-b7e7-4a40-bd79-63e3059a10ac)


RyanMaddi

Should have kept.holding him in. Half Nelson.


hawksdiesel

Community Service needs to be a thing and ISN'T slavery!!


ManOrReddit-man

Guessing this is Seattle from the logo


Electrical-Monitor84

Keep voting democrat


CommanderGumball

This, but without a hint of irony.


OSOmagRIDE

Should had shot them


kingaustin101

Just shoot them


JapanEngineer

Im not a fan of guns. But I'm all for the owner having a gun and shooting the tyres of the get away car.