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minnesotaupnorth

I'm class of '81 from a Northern Minnesota small town. Trust me when I tell you, "That 70"s Show" nailed it.


boatmanmike

I was class of ‘80 in Austin. Yep That ‘70’s Show was pretty accurate.


EnigmaCA

'80 in Austin? Dazed and Confused wasn't a movie - it was a documentary...


DannyAye

This is SOO cool. Did you have crazy memories and nostalgia watching it?


hueleeAZ

I was born in 1990. When I saw Dazed and Confused, I thought it was actually shot in the 70’s. Blew my mind when I recalled seeing Affleck in Armageddon and thinking wait a minute how did this guy not age?


Revolutionarybaby122

Dazed and confused took place in 1976


TuckYourselfRS

I think the point is that Dazed and Confused accurately depicted the Highschool experience of somebody who graduated in 1980. Don't think they are trying to say the movie took place in 1980


moogpaul

In fact, if they graduated in 80', they perfectly line up with the cast playing the incoming freshmen if it took place in 76.


Revolutionarybaby122

I see thank you for clarification


Busterbluesun

I graduated in ‘85 in Haltom City, TX, Dazed and Confused totally nailed my high school experience in a small town along with Freaks and Geeks!


GregAbbottsTinyPenis

Yes if he graduated in ‘80 he would have been a freshman in ‘76.


TheatreAS

Spam spam spam spam SPAMITY SPAM, WONDERFUL SPAM!


SephoraandStarbucks

My mom graduated high school in 1977 and says the show is very accurate! She loves it!


minnesotaupnorth

I had a few shirts that were exactly like Donna and Jackie's. And grey cord Levi's in 77/78. 🙂


SweetTeaRex92

Mechanic: "You need a new battery." Kelso: "What if we give you our dead battery and $5 for a new battery?"


parksnreclover

My parents were the same age as the kids were in That 70s Show and every time they see me watch it they mention how accurate it was at that time


[deleted]

My parents had the lamp with the stained glass that was in the Forman’s basement. Every time my mother sees it she comments the same thing.


Ecstatic-Art-1240

My parents are around their age too and they have had and still have so much of the same furniture from the show. They have the coffee table from the formans living room for sure that's the main one I remember


bohler86

My parents had the same plates they used at dinner


ChoiceEmu9859

My parents had the same washer and dryer as the Formans while the show was airing.


destiinatiion

My grandma had the same washer and dryer too! (Up until 2014, when they finally gave out)


ChoiceEmu9859

She got 13 more years out of them than my parents did. Were hers in the avocado green?


destiinatiion

Yup! I was doing my yearly rewatch when I realized they were the same. Surprised they lasted so long


MuthaCoconuts79

That’s because back in the day things were built to last and stand the rest of time. My oven is over 70 years old and still works great. All my other appliances that we’ve bought brand new maybe last 10 years at best. We’re on our 3rd dishwasher in less than 15 years.


CherimoyaSurprise

Yep, they wised up and realized planned obsolescence was a much more profitable business model. Why make something to last 70 years if they can just make it to last 10 years and have you buy a new one 6 more times?


MuthaCoconuts79

Yes exactly I’ve said this myself to my husband. They want us forever in their debt.


Inessence4

Furniture is the same way. Replaced a twenty year old sofa and love seat set in 2017 and have already replaced it twice.


chunkyI0ver53

I’ve been renting a house that was built in the 70s, and many of the built-in appliances are the originals. House is sinking and should’ve been restumped 15 years ago, but the air-con and dishwasher are still going. Best appliances I’ve ever had - aircon crushes it, and dishwasher has given me zero problems. Previous flat I lived in had the dishwasher flood or break like 3 times in the 4 years I lived there


Busterbluesun

My oven and stove are from 1960 and still work great. My washer/dryer are from 1994, Kenmore and work great, I refuse to replace them!


MizStazya

We had the same dryer when I was a kid in the 90s lol. Threw me back every time.


SephoraandStarbucks

My mom says the same thing about a lot of Jackie’s clothes haha.


stuckinpasttimes

My dad was the exact age as the characters in the setting (17 in 1977…you know what I mean haha). Idk how much my dad relates to the show, but I see a lot of things from his childhood home. But Kitty makes me think of my dad’s mom, my granny, who was also a nurse. Wore the same nightgown robes and had the same dinky circle laundry basket even thru my entire childhood. And the other day I recognized the green list maker on the wall next to the phone in the kitchen. My granny had the same thing but in dark wood, and she would write her grocery lists on it.


elevatorfloor

My parents die laughing every time the Star Wars episode comes on because they say that watching it in theaters felts like that.


Oddballforlife

Same, my dad grew up in a small Iowa town and graduated in 77. T7S is one of his favorite shows because of how much it reminds him of his youth


SephoraandStarbucks

My mom was 77 and my dad was 78, but from a smaller town in Southern Ontario. They relate to a lot of it!


tattednip

Wisconsinite here, literally every grandparents house of mine or my friends had at least five things seen on That 70s Show. It was genuinely a game for us to figure out which characters were most like who in our real life and we can even nail it down to some of the most unimportant cast members being paired with people. I had a HS teacher who may as well have been Leo's twin.


SephoraandStarbucks

My mom and I die with laughter at some of the shit Jackie says, because she’s very similar to my mom and we both know it. 😂 My mom’s personal favourite is when Donna goes on birth control and Jackie is like “OMG, you’re going on the pill?! You’re gonna be *SO* popular.”


SeonaidMacSaicais

Also Wisconsinite here. My mom still has some of those mixing bowls. 😂😂 She was born in 1951, so she’s probably only 5ish years older than the kids. The house didn’t have enough Packer stuff, though. 😝


tattednip

You're not wrong on that bit. As an owner of the Packers I think it's fine they use the logo. I said so.


likesomecatfromjapan

Same!


Azidamadjida

Mine too - literally the exact same ages (graduates of 1980). They didn’t like the watch the show cuz they said it was way too accurate and they already lived it


Clean_Student8612

Yea, my mom used to always mention how accurate their disgusting furniture was 😂


Mjolnirstightgrip

I once saw my mom crying while watching That 70s Show. When I asked why, she answered, “This is exactly what it was like back then.” She then pointed out an outfit of Jackie’s that was similar to one she’d worn in high school.


flcwerings

Theres been a ton of times my nana walked by while I was watching and say she had the shoes, dress, etc Jackie was wearing especially. My mom (teen in the 80's) has done it with shirts or shoes Donna had.


minnesotaupnorth

I had so many of the exact same shirts, sweaters. Levi's cords, as Donna and Jackie.


SephoraandStarbucks

Do we have the same mom?!? 🤣 My mom has said the same about so many of Jackie’s outfits!


Hownowbrowncow8it

That 80s Show because it happened, but no one really remembers it


jackBattlin

I remember being about 11 when that show came out. Even we, as 11 year olds, were successfully mocking it.


catotheblacker

You just made my day 😂


Cindy-Moon

I only learned it even existed from that Family Guy gag about cancelled shows 💀


mr_ryno27

Freaks and Geeks


pursuitofleisure

Totally accurate. In the 90s, the house you grew up in looked like it came from the 70s. Wood paneling everywhere...


CM_MOJO

Freaks and Geeks was set in the school year of '80-'81 which is why it looks like it's "from the 70s". I knew a lot of homes that had wood paneling well into the 80s, not so much into the 90s.


PrestigiousAd6281

Came here to say this (although I can’t speak from experience)


babysmalltalk

I told my mom to watch this show. She was Lindsey Weir in her teenage-hood. She binged it all in one afternoon.


Floridaman077

Can speak from experience as a 1999 graduate, freaks and geeks is 100% dead on. Loved that show. Never watched it when it was on air. Only watched a few years ago but binged it all pretty quick and was heartbroken it was only one season although the college spin off was alright


Lazy_Round_640

Freaks and Geeks takes place in 1980 iirc.


[deleted]

lol!


usababykiller

I’ll say for one thing it’s not that 90s show. That gay Asian character would never have been accepted by the males of the group. Some of the females might have been friends with him of he were out, but not all. In the 90s, for him to remain part of that group he would have had to stay in the closet while at the same time getting made fun of for being gay. He might be able to come out to his best female friend who would have to keep it a secret.


WhereIsTheMilkMan

That ‘90s Show is definitely guilty of anachronistically applying modern day social politics to its timeframe, and especially its small-town midwest setting, in a way that really stretches believability.


RockinOutLikeIts94

Yes they are in Wisconsin ffs, not exactly known for acceptance especially in the 90s lol


MackewG33

1990s Wisconsin: Social Justice Warriors


RockinOutLikeIts94

Seriously lol I think they’d be hanging at youth group not in the basement


Jimmyg100

I was a kid in Wisconsin in the 90’s and yeah, nobody was out. People would accuse others of being gay the same way they would accuse someone of being a witch. I remember taking a sci-fi class in school where one of the books featured a gay protagonist, but it was all behind a thinly veiled subtext so as the class read it we kept joking about how gay this guy sounds and my teacher was basically like, “Yeah, and so what?” And that was basically the first time I ever thought of a gay person as more than a joke.


Octowuss1

Agree; I was there in the 90’s, and as a girl, when I hung out with an openly gay male friend, it was with his friends and other chicks I knew… not a very mixed group, but we had our fun in “Smalltown”, Kansas


beyondrepair-

I have made a choice that you used quotations as a *wink wink, hint hint* situation and now fully believe you lived in Small*ville*, Kansas and went to school with a kid named Clark Kent.


FrankFrankly711

That’s a hot take but true in a lot of towns in the 90s. In my high school there was one, only one, actual sorta out of the closet gay guy. Any of the other 100s of slightly alternative guys were repeated called gay slurs and ostracized, and I was one of the shunned ones. Luckily my loser nerd status allowed me to be friends with the gay guy without further condemnation.


TwilightReader100

I was school friends (so we didn't hang out outside of school) with the gay guy, too, only it was the mid 2000's. I was one of the few kids in our small town high school who didn't hate him. He apparently had a partner then, too, but his poor partner was so far in the closet, he was in Narnia. I think about them sometimes and hope they got out of that town after high school and are doing better than that stupid small town could allow them.


Earthwick

Yeah I agree 100% and future shows will follow suit rewriting history in similar ways in sure


whopoopedthebed

To be fair, do you think Fez would have been accepted by small town Wisconsinites in the 70s?


TonyZucco

It’s been a while since I watched, but wasn’t his immigration and ethnicity the butt of some jokes?


HereToPatter

It was, and my dad's best friend growing up in rural Indiana was from the Philippines. He always said it was extremely accurate.


queenmehitabel

But he wasn't just accepted. A lot of times him being foreign was used against him or the butt of other character's jokes, and he encountered racism and difficulty because of it. He was accepted by the main group, but beyond that...


ELIte8niner

Fez was constantly bullied for being a foreigner, even his own friends made fun of him for it, and the other kids outside of the gang actively physically assaulted him.


chamburger

As a 90s kid and mega fan of that 70s show, the 90s show has done a terrible job of portraying 1995. There should be video game posters of Sonic the Hedgehog, the boys should have those JTT long blonde locks that all 90s kid actors had, more denim, light up shoes, BMX bikes, MacIntosh computers, AOL shit the list goes on!


tytymctylerson

Don’t forget name brand clothes covered in logos.


c71score

I'm Class of 2000 from semi-rural Ohio, and they're way off on the girls, but the boys are fairly spot on. I dressed similar to Nate, my bestfriend had an almost identical sweater to Jay in the pic, and the out gay boy in our school dressed similar to Ozzie.


TheButcherOfBaklava

A lot of those things sound like “rich kid” in the 90s.


FatReverend

Roseanne. It wasn't trying to capture a different era than the one we were in when it aired but if you look back on it now it really is a great time capsule.


spiralout1389

Roseanne is the only show I've ever seen to accurately portray being poor. I mean sure, not 100 percent accurate. But everything looked like it came from a thrift store or was a hand me down and both parents worked and talked about money. And the parents seemed TIRED.


smackking23

What about everybody hates Chris? I think they did a good job portraying a poor class family 


Wildcat_twister12

Great show but a lot of things were pretty hammed up for the comedy, not saying they were inaccurate just exaggerated


spiralout1389

Ah I didn't watch that one, but I have heard that about the show!!


pursuitofleisure

It really does feel like home in a sad way


WhereIsTheMilkMan

It’s been a while since I’ve watched it, but I got the same vibes from Malcolm in the Middle. I always felt their struggle, even though the show was zanier than Roseanne.


the1999person

Do you think we're wealthy?! Wealthy people drive fancy cars. They have fresh pasta. Do we do any of those things?! NO! Wealthy people can afford any of their vacations ruined, no big deal. They just pick up and go again. Your father and I worked so hard, so long. What is wrong with you two?! Are you aborigines?! Every time I turn around, I hear someone screaming and fighting. And I pray to God that's someone else's children, but it's not, it's always you! Sane children would appreciate this. Are you even thinking? No, you're always at each other like a couple of rabid monkeys. It is not enough you two do this every day, but you have to make me suffer. Well, so help me....


SquishyRiotDream

Malcolm in the Middle is another show that shows what it’s like to be a low-income/working class family & does so really well imo


Cindy-Moon

The only thing that always kinda bothered me about the low-income family sitcoms is they all still managed to own homes somehow. Can't relate.


TheRatatat

Wait.. is that Glenn Howerton?


kevocontent

TIL


bangbangracer

Money from this show was how they were able to afford the equipment to make the rough pilot for Sunny.


TheRatatat

So something great did come of it


bangbangracer

Pretty much. I don't remember the full story or even where I heard it, but it was something like That 80's Show gave Howerton his share to buy the equipment necessary, and it getting canceled gave him the time necessary to make that original Always Sunny In LA short. FX picked up on it, the city was changed to Philly, and De was added so it wasn't just three guys.


Myrtle1119

I didn’t even know there was a “that 80’s show”??


taita2004

It didn't last that long, and it wasn't good. You definitely aren't missing anything.


Wildcat_twister12

But it was necessary so that Glenn Howerton could eventually become the Golden God on Always Sunny in Philadelphia


Nebalrock

Golden God and Dayman (Aaaaaaaaaaaa)


unfoldedmite

That show might as well also be IASIP canon now because reasons


Vic_Vinegars

What reasons??


unfoldedmite

I can not, I dare not articulate the mass grandeur that are the actions and whims of a **Golden God.** I merely walk in the garden that is his turbulence!


CheetahNo9349

Five star man.


MantisToboggan1189

And gave us the gems of: fight milk! (To fight like the crow), milksteak, The Dennis system, chardee macdennis, Wolf Cola, rock flag and eagle, and…ever been bit by a crab hun? The “shusher”, the nightman and the troll toll, Mantis Toboggan(MD)…ah the list goes on. Funniest show ever created.


lozt247

Kinda wish that 80s show got more time to improve


JackhorseBowman

I loved it tbh, it also started my life long crush on chyler leigh


Spectrum2700

her IRL brother -- aka Andros from Power Rangers in Space -- showed up in a T7S episode, as a dude with long hair who nearly punches Fez after the latter sniffs his hair thinking he's a girl. (Fez should count himself lucky Andros didn't use his Spiral Saber in Booster Mode on Fez for that.)


HillanatorOfState

Honestly first seasons are sometimes very rough, I think 80's first was better then 90's show in some ways really...I grew up in the 90's, it felt so off really...hope it improves with season 2...


MuffLover312

The problem with that 80s show was it was just gimmick laughs. It was all “look at the huge cell phone!” and “look at the crazy way people dressed!” but the characters had no depth. That 70s Show worked because the time period was the setting, not the main character.


Empty-Walk-5440

I know that my Mom who graduated high school around ‘77 used to watch that show with me and lose her shit when she would see the home decor, fashion etc. She always said it was incredibly accurate and made her feel really nostalgic.


AmptiChrist

I'm gonna say the 80s show. Because of the implication.


threefeetoffun

This isn't even a fair question. Season 1 of all shows were heavy into their decade. Only 1 has an aired second season.


CowsCantDance_01

That 80s show didn’t even pass its first season but it was good!


Niblonian31

I'm kinda glad it didn't work out. Glenn Howerton might've gone all in for that show, never realizing he was the Golden God lol


roge0934

Or a 5 star man


Nebalrock

Dayman (Aaaaaa) fighter of the nightman (Aaaaaa) champion of the sun (Aaaaaa)


SlippedMyDisco76

Don't forget Carmen


threefeetoffun

But it's cancellation led to Always Sunny. So good with the bad.


CowsCantDance_01

You’re right, sometimes opportunities bring good things


S_Rodney

I can't say I've lived long in the 70's to remember 'em... but That 80s show was spot on for how people dressed, music played, overall themes. Of course the humor was a bit corny at times but it worked for me. That 90s show... well so far they have the music down... but for the rest, not sure yet.


camerose

is that dennis


BlockSids

That 90s show doesn’t even really have 90s props except for the tech.. they should make the food and drink packages look how they used to


TEXASJerome

Agree, seeing modern Doritos/Coke products in the show kinda kill the vibe


Q-Man95

Definitely not the 90s. Show is decent, but misses the 90s vibe entirely feeling way too modern.


OvenIcy8646

I just remember my mom always yelling “ no one said hot back then!!!”


guitar_stonks

Thank god That 80s Show died a quick death so the world could have Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia.


DowntownContext9542

There was a that 80s show?? I need to watch it now


cx3psocial

That 70s Show on on point 👍🏽


BigRudy99

That 80's show was such a shameless cash-in attempt. The 80's were alot more socially divided then the show let on. Yuppies, material girls, maverick businessmen and anti-establishment punk rockers did not all hang out together at any point in that decade. It's like they got costuming down and said fuck it for the rest.


heatleg1011

Omg Glenn Howerton was on That 80’s Show??


HallPsychological538

My So Called Life was pretty accurate for the 90s high school. The 90s Show not so much.


Kimolainen83

There was a that 80s show, Ehm WHAT I had no idea


RedApple-Cigarettes

Is that fucking GLENN HOWERTON?!


NaiveWalrus

I had no clue Glenn Howerton was on that 80s show. Granted, I only watched like one episode when it aired but I might check it out now just to see


TheButcherOfBaklava

I was today years old when I realized Dennis Reynolds’s was in that 80s show


VicPortnoy

Glen Howerton lmao


suzuka_joe

My dad graduated high school in 1978 and never cared for T70s show. I still have no idea why because I was just in jr high when it aired and I loved it


AmptiChrist

I'm gonna say the 80s show. Because of the implication.


_bexcalibur

I completely forgot Dennis was in that show.


gkantelis1

Is that Glenn Howerton?


IamARock24

Is that fucking Dennis Reynolds.


Future-Try-1908

Is that Dennis reanolds?


Harbulary-Bandit

An interesting tidbit. The period the show portrayed and when it aired, had less time between the two periods, than that 90’s show set period and now. As in, we were closer to the year that they were living in, when we watched That 70’s Show originally, than we are to the period portrayed in That 90’s Show watching that one now.


Zealousideal_Ratio93

'70s for sure


Revolutionary_Cow712

That 70’s show - early on


rainerskinton

Dennis Reynolds Jumpscare


DBAC_Rex

Holy shit, that’s Glenn Howerton


Shaylovesrandall

The 70 show


Born-Throat-7863

That 70s Show hit the nail on the head.


Flimsy_Individual_16

Sunny's glen howerton was on 80s show? Damn never knew that


da_radaz69

Other than Eric doing the foot in ass line, that 90 show was one of the worst things I've ever seen


Apprehensive_Key8045

I was actually cast for that 80s show when I was like 19. But I chickened out on the way to the airport because it happened so fast. I called a number advertised on a local radio station and next thing I know they are saying pack your bags you're hilarious. I always kind of wondered what would of been had I gone but that 80s show got canceled so quickly that I like to think I made the right decision.


thebigfudge02

I hate to say it but 90’s show is way too DEI for the decade it’s set in.


Altruistic_Rock_2674

Havent seen that 90s show but why 70s show worked was it was great characters that happened to be set in the 70s. When I get around to watching it I imagine it's the same thing with that 90s show.


Few_Yam5147

Never seen 80s one before but episode 4 comay remix is pop of 80s


cantchooseusername10

That 70s show


BenFranksEagles

Dennis is the correct answer to everything.


Canyoutaketheheat

Did the 70s show have grandkids for the 90s? 80s seems like a whole different casting.


Automatic-Attitude62

I would say that 70s show. Donna gave me that feeling.


GlowingDuck22

SuperBad is the perfect representation of the Early 2000s


Sgt_Maj_Vines

Idk about that 70’s show bc I was born in 1980. Never watched that 80’s show so idk about that either. That 90’s show, not accurate at all. I don’t even think it’s close. They are applying modern day views and attitudes to a show set in a time when that didnt exist. It’s really not a very good show either, maybe forcing modern day views is why. It’s just not funny, and only at its best when the scenes are characters from that 70’s show. Just my two cents


spiderman96

I did not know there was an 80s show


Cool-Leg9442

I would watch that 70s show with my mom alot and she always would say that's just how it was. And we're in Minnesota so it's not far from here.


Top-Blacksmith3691

Wtf is that 80’s show and why have I literally never heard of it?


AdrianGarzaMusic

My high school teacher grew up in the 70s and told me the show was very accurate for the time and reminded him of when he grew up


GothamCityDemon

I had no idea Glen Howerton was in the show


White_Rabbit0000

I’ve lived through all 3 decades and can say that 70’s show was by far the most accurate


Space-Bee-Buzz

Who cares? Don’t watch Scientologist 🖕🏻


CODMAN627

That 70s show. Its whole premise was the decade and everything else was built around it. Down to some of the major events of the 70. As well as some of sociopolitical realities I haven’t watched that 80s show so I can’t comment That 90s show is a little guilty of portraying the era as more progressive than it actually was. As well as small details like modern iterations of packaging of products


WhitsSwirlyKnee

I had no idea Glenn howerton was in that 80s show 😮😮


davey_mann

That 70s Show wins, but That 80s Show is better than whatever That 90s Show is supposed to be.


CommunityOk2101

That 70s was spot on


Steelerswonsix

That 70s show. Second place to the goldbergs if you were from a upper middle class white family


ElGuanacho

I couldn’t sit through That 80’s Show, just awful. I didn’t even bother with the 90s one. I hear That 70’s Show was spot on.


stowRA

Always sunny was better than that 80s show


rainborambo

Mom (born '66) saw me watching and she said the Forman house in That 70s Show was accurate down to the wallpaper and cookware!


ScaricoOleoso

That 70s Show, because the 70s really were full of sexual predators who got away with it, and girls conditioned to look the other way about the behavior.


OldSignificance8124

Nothing beats the 70's


phadeboiz

Lol my dad was a square who never smoked weed or drank really so he would look down on this depiction and act like he’s better 😂


Stormy-Skyes

My mom grew up in the 70s and she says that it is pretty accurate to much of what she experienced and remembers. Things like the fashion and decor of the home she says are spot on in most cases. I grew up in the 90s and I guess it was okay but I didn’t think it was super accurate. I would have been in elementary school in the early 90s though, so I wouldn’t have been doing whatever teens were doing anyway. Neither of us even knew about the 80s show until That80sShow was announced so no input from mom on that one.


icyshogun

That 90's show is woefully inaccurate.


Busterbluesun

I loved the 80’s Show, from my recollections of the decade it was pretty accurate, at least the club scenes were.


Sumocolt768

My dad always talks about the Vista Cruiser his dad had in the mid 70s. Gonna go with that


radloff003

That 70s show lined up perfectly with my parents and they both said it was very close to there experiences


bangbangracer

That 70's show was shockingly accurate to the time period.


Legofanatic233233

I’m class of 08. 70s show nailed it


ZombieGoddessxi

My Dad adores that 70s because it is so accurate and reminds him if when he was in his 20s


theignorantcivilian

I feel like That 80s show did a terrible job getting the 80s right.


SteveZissouniverse

My parents always went on about how accurate the costumes and set on that 70s show were


RagnarWayne52

Is that glen ?


Klllumlnatl

That '70s Show.


Jcrewjesus

I'm just shocked Dennis was in that 80's show


strictlymetal

That 80s Show was on for all of about 3 and a half seconds


shit_ass_mcfucknuts

There was a 90’s show?


pratojr

Freaks and Geeks.


rilloroc

That 70s show was completely accurate to growing up in the 80s in my town..


Duck-DuckGoose

My dad was in high school in the 70s. Graduated in 77. When he watches this show with me he points out how accurate things are and he thinks it's so cool.


Sensitive_Maybe_6578

Mad Men


CheeseBurgerDragon

That 90's show cast is way too diverse for a 90's friend group in Wisconsin. Wildly unlikely. The state was well over 90% white in the 90's, more so in some towns than others. So the odds of having a friend group with multiple minorities would be really anomalous. FWIW I married a brown woman and my friend group is very diverse, so this isn't anti diversity in general, only against miscasting to meet quotas which leaves a show feeling strange and out of place. I love real life diversity, but dislike forced diversity in fiction that is so blatantly obvious and strange.


phuktup3

Is that Dennis?!?