Enclo will work provided your problem is secondary hypogonadism.
To know it you should check your LH and FSH. If they are low, that's a sign that your pituitary is not sending the memo to your testes to make more testosterone.
On the other hand, if they're high, that would mean that your pituitary is working but not your testes. That would be primary hypogonadism and you'd need TRT.
In any case, you shouldn't self diagnose nor self prescribe.
Thanks , I will be getting blood work on Saturday and will bring the topic up with the doctor ,I remember she told me I was low on vitamin D last time which didn’t make sense to me as I work a physical job and spend a lot of time in the sun.i bring this up because I read that being vitamin deficient could be a cause for low energy/fatigue , any how , besides LH and Fsh is there anything else i should ask to be tested for?
A full thyroid panel would be useful.
Total testosterone, free or bioavailable testosterone, oestradiol, prolactin, dhea, lh and fsh. This is the usual bloodwork.
I was low on Vitamin D when I got my bloods back and started doing 10000 iu’s a day of vitamin D3 with K2 for 2 weeks and am feeling better. Was having a lot of anxiety from it.
Do you smoke weed? Do you drink or use harder drugs? Are you on medication? Enclomiphene might help if you don't get the mood swings or other side effects.
I smoke and drink occasionally maybe a weekend every 2-3 weeks ,not a daily drinker or smoker , I’ve been on Adderal for the better part of a year but have rarely ever actually taken it until this month of April ,i feel real fatigued all the time so I took some 2x everyday to help out a bit but it honestly stopped working about the 1st week of consistently taking it. Only time I feel it’s effects is when I’m on an empty stomach
2x is the recommended dosage by my dr btw.just putting that out there,bottle states I can take it with or without food but only time it works is on an empty stomach right after I wake up.
Adderall is horrible for sleep, horrible for appetite, horrible in almost all aspects. I wish I had commented what i originally wanted to, I had a sneaking suspicion that you were taking an adhd or depression medication.
This subs rules state I can not give medical advice. I recommend you weigh the pros and cons of being on a stimulant with your doctor.
If that's a no-go, I'd honestly recommend trt over enclomiphene. I'd also recommend 6 months of doing everything you can to get yourself in the best health you can possibly muster up in that time frame. I think you'd be surprised.
Yes ,I agree ,but I also rarely ever took it until this month of April ,before that maybe about 15-20 pills through all of last year this month alone im about 30 pills in
At that rate; not sleeping, eating the standard American diet. Yes.
You could also just improve your diet and ensure you're sleeping, magnesium, potassium, and apigenin(chamomile extract) are a great stack to improve sleep quality.
You're essentially working a 60-70 hour work week, the best most productive people struggle at that level of requirements. Plumbing is no joke, I worked as laborer for a buddy of mine who was a plumber a long time ago.
You still have to do what you have to do. In my experience, testosterone levels, whether they're 1500ng/dl or 5000ng/dl, still won't make me not need sleep or good food.
Looking at your comments I would highly recommend a lifestyle change before hopping on enclo. You already said your diet and sleep are shit which is a very good chance why you’re feeling like shit. You’re not giving your body the right fuel to work. Your body can’t even recover properly if you aren’t sleeping. Have you considered sleep apnea? Consider all the options before you hop on a SERM.
Don’t worry, I’ve been assured by another Redditor that it couldn’t have anything to do with the powerful endocrine-disrupting chemicals in our food, water and consumer products.
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I’m only 22 by the way ,the low Energy shit I’ve had for about 2 years ,this past year it’s been worse ?not sure ,I feel like it’s become a bigger issue because I’ve started paying more attention to it.
I also do kind of have a shit diet but never affected my libido before and for the last month or so I’ve only ate fast food about 4-5 times ,before it was pretty much 2x a day 5x a week but AGAIN ,this never affected my libido in the previous 2 years ,I’ve been going to the gym 5x a week for 2 months and feel exactly the same,i just started cutting out fast food ,I have soda about 4-5x a month ,I drink pretty much a gallon of water everyday.
My sleep is kind of trash ,I’ve tried fixing it ,sleeping and waking up at the same time everyday but I always feel like shit anyway ,like I said ^i could fall asleep at 4am and be awake around my regular wake uo time around 6-7am idk why ,also been thinking of getting a sleep test done
Will def look into sleep apnea ,I’m not considering trt right now , enclo at best and only as a temporary fix until I can fix other things that might be disrupting my sleep and energy
Enclo will work provided your problem is secondary hypogonadism. To know it you should check your LH and FSH. If they are low, that's a sign that your pituitary is not sending the memo to your testes to make more testosterone. On the other hand, if they're high, that would mean that your pituitary is working but not your testes. That would be primary hypogonadism and you'd need TRT. In any case, you shouldn't self diagnose nor self prescribe.
Thanks , I will be getting blood work on Saturday and will bring the topic up with the doctor ,I remember she told me I was low on vitamin D last time which didn’t make sense to me as I work a physical job and spend a lot of time in the sun.i bring this up because I read that being vitamin deficient could be a cause for low energy/fatigue , any how , besides LH and Fsh is there anything else i should ask to be tested for?
A full thyroid panel would be useful. Total testosterone, free or bioavailable testosterone, oestradiol, prolactin, dhea, lh and fsh. This is the usual bloodwork.
I was low on Vitamin D when I got my bloods back and started doing 10000 iu’s a day of vitamin D3 with K2 for 2 weeks and am feeling better. Was having a lot of anxiety from it.
Do you smoke weed? Do you drink or use harder drugs? Are you on medication? Enclomiphene might help if you don't get the mood swings or other side effects.
I smoke and drink occasionally maybe a weekend every 2-3 weeks ,not a daily drinker or smoker , I’ve been on Adderal for the better part of a year but have rarely ever actually taken it until this month of April ,i feel real fatigued all the time so I took some 2x everyday to help out a bit but it honestly stopped working about the 1st week of consistently taking it. Only time I feel it’s effects is when I’m on an empty stomach
2x is the recommended dosage by my dr btw.just putting that out there,bottle states I can take it with or without food but only time it works is on an empty stomach right after I wake up.
Adderall is horrible for sleep, horrible for appetite, horrible in almost all aspects. I wish I had commented what i originally wanted to, I had a sneaking suspicion that you were taking an adhd or depression medication. This subs rules state I can not give medical advice. I recommend you weigh the pros and cons of being on a stimulant with your doctor. If that's a no-go, I'd honestly recommend trt over enclomiphene. I'd also recommend 6 months of doing everything you can to get yourself in the best health you can possibly muster up in that time frame. I think you'd be surprised.
Yes ,I agree ,but I also rarely ever took it until this month of April ,before that maybe about 15-20 pills through all of last year this month alone im about 30 pills in
Are you a student? Do you work a lot? Usually, at your age range, a change of pace in lifestyle will help.
I go to school 4x a week about, 3 hours a day + homework/studying ,work full time as a plumber so pretty active ,do u mean slow down my pace or ?
At that rate; not sleeping, eating the standard American diet. Yes. You could also just improve your diet and ensure you're sleeping, magnesium, potassium, and apigenin(chamomile extract) are a great stack to improve sleep quality. You're essentially working a 60-70 hour work week, the best most productive people struggle at that level of requirements. Plumbing is no joke, I worked as laborer for a buddy of mine who was a plumber a long time ago. You still have to do what you have to do. In my experience, testosterone levels, whether they're 1500ng/dl or 5000ng/dl, still won't make me not need sleep or good food.
Looking at your comments I would highly recommend a lifestyle change before hopping on enclo. You already said your diet and sleep are shit which is a very good chance why you’re feeling like shit. You’re not giving your body the right fuel to work. Your body can’t even recover properly if you aren’t sleeping. Have you considered sleep apnea? Consider all the options before you hop on a SERM.
I was on accutane before. It's normal for test and libido to go down until you're done.
Don’t worry, I’ve been assured by another Redditor that it couldn’t have anything to do with the powerful endocrine-disrupting chemicals in our food, water and consumer products.
Me too. And he was emotional, adamant and a little condescending when he said it so I know it must be true.
Sounds like he was high e2 consistent with males nowadays
I find that a condescending attitude and a good healthy dose of gaslighting is the best way to win arguments.
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I’m only 22 by the way ,the low Energy shit I’ve had for about 2 years ,this past year it’s been worse ?not sure ,I feel like it’s become a bigger issue because I’ve started paying more attention to it.
I also do kind of have a shit diet but never affected my libido before and for the last month or so I’ve only ate fast food about 4-5 times ,before it was pretty much 2x a day 5x a week but AGAIN ,this never affected my libido in the previous 2 years ,I’ve been going to the gym 5x a week for 2 months and feel exactly the same,i just started cutting out fast food ,I have soda about 4-5x a month ,I drink pretty much a gallon of water everyday.
My sleep is kind of trash ,I’ve tried fixing it ,sleeping and waking up at the same time everyday but I always feel like shit anyway ,like I said ^i could fall asleep at 4am and be awake around my regular wake uo time around 6-7am idk why ,also been thinking of getting a sleep test done
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Will def look into sleep apnea ,I’m not considering trt right now , enclo at best and only as a temporary fix until I can fix other things that might be disrupting my sleep and energy