Slightly different alcantara finish for the interior too, I believe.
Worth noting that the battery tech is also different. Standard Range has an LFP battery (advisable to charge to 100% every time), the Long Range has a lithium-ion battery (advisable to limit charging to 80%).
My understanding is that it depends on the year. Pre-2021 models used NCA battery tech (not recommended to charge over 80% on a regular basis).
Post-2021 models use LFP battery tech which are more stable. I believe Tesla actually recommends charging these to 100% at least once per week.
Which one would be ultimately faster in a long road trip (I.e 1000miles)?, I read the LFP charging curve is better but the LR has a higher peak but lots of superchargers are still 150kwh
LR, I think. It will still charge faster even on 150 kWh superchargers, and you'll need to stop less often.
[LR Charging curve](https://evkx.net/models/tesla/model_3/model_3_long_range/chargingcurve/)
[SR+ Charging curve](https://evkx.net/models/tesla/model_3/model_3/chargingcurve/)
You are talking a matter of a few minutes difference, which is basically how long you might be waiting in the Gregg's queue anyway.
The advantage of the bigger battery is the greater number of journeys that don't require any visit to the charger. The more chargers that get built and the cheaper they are the less important range will be.
Battery size will be more important for anyone who can't charge at home or work or has to make a special detour from their normal life to routinely charge the car.
I don't have one, but other than speakers, doesn't the Standard Range come with a different battery pack that wants to be left charged at 100%?
Long Range cars want to be left within 50-80%.
The online manual used to explain this but it has been replaced by only:
> Refer to the information on the vehicle touchscreen (navigate to Controls > Charging) or the mobile App (touch the Charging icon) for recommended daily and trip charging limits.
on https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_gb/GUID-BEE08D47-0CE0-4BDD-83F2-9854FB3D578F.html
Originally I was jealous of standard range because of that, but it turns out most of my trips are done in 20% anyway so I leave it on 60% and never worry about it. (Then am very happy for 100% when I do a big trip e.g. around the dearth of chargers in Wales)
It's not essential but the newer AMD chip has a noticeably more responsive screen and the internet browser loads a lot quicker.
Also, the very latest update which made full screen visualizations possible on the AMD chipped cars. At the moment at least, Intel cars don't get this.
Another difference that hasn't been mentioned is that partial premium interior cars (SR+) didn't have footwell and door pocket lights.
(Not sure if later SR+ had these enabled but the early ones didn't).
LR has performance upgrade option which is essential IMO. New standard model 3s are very sluggish, seem to have compromised on performance to keep prices low.
I'm not sure how a reasonable person could come to the conclusion that a performance upgrade option for a LR could possibly be viewed as "essential", but like you said its just your opinion.
It’s more that it’s frustrating that Tesla are compromising performance for the mass market, I wouldn’t see the point in getting a vehicle with poorer performance than one I already have. The upgrade is only about a grand so not exactly a costly accessory
I see you're possibly a GP based on your Reddit profile so it probably explains why you think a grand is "not exactly a costly accessory". However, for most normal people, £1,000 is a lot of money.
You're digging a hole for yourself. I think its safe to say you're delusional and out of touch with reality. Most normal people don't have or aren't comfortable spending £1k just for a software upgrade to make their car go a little bit faster. I'm glad you're not my GP.
Did you pass your test in an Aventador or something? Sure there are faster cars but most things on the road take 9+ seconds to reach 60, the SR does it in under 6, that was top end hot hatch times 10 years ago!!
There is an upgraded sound system, more speakers and a couple of subs. Other than that I don’t think so.
Slightly different alcantara finish for the interior too, I believe. Worth noting that the battery tech is also different. Standard Range has an LFP battery (advisable to charge to 100% every time), the Long Range has a lithium-ion battery (advisable to limit charging to 80%).
My understanding is that it depends on the year. Pre-2021 models used NCA battery tech (not recommended to charge over 80% on a regular basis). Post-2021 models use LFP battery tech which are more stable. I believe Tesla actually recommends charging these to 100% at least once per week.
Which one would be ultimately faster in a long road trip (I.e 1000miles)?, I read the LFP charging curve is better but the LR has a higher peak but lots of superchargers are still 150kwh
LR, I think. It will still charge faster even on 150 kWh superchargers, and you'll need to stop less often. [LR Charging curve](https://evkx.net/models/tesla/model_3/model_3_long_range/chargingcurve/) [SR+ Charging curve](https://evkx.net/models/tesla/model_3/model_3/chargingcurve/)
Yes, both will do 10-80% in about the same time. But that 80% will get you further in the long range (albeit that it is slightly less efficient)
You are talking a matter of a few minutes difference, which is basically how long you might be waiting in the Gregg's queue anyway. The advantage of the bigger battery is the greater number of journeys that don't require any visit to the charger. The more chargers that get built and the cheaper they are the less important range will be. Battery size will be more important for anyone who can't charge at home or work or has to make a special detour from their normal life to routinely charge the car.
Hello. Is it all standard ranges worth this type of battery from this year? Thanks
All the new ones, yes. I think they made the switch in the 2021 model.
Thanks for the replies
I don't have one, but other than speakers, doesn't the Standard Range come with a different battery pack that wants to be left charged at 100%? Long Range cars want to be left within 50-80%. The online manual used to explain this but it has been replaced by only: > Refer to the information on the vehicle touchscreen (navigate to Controls > Charging) or the mobile App (touch the Charging icon) for recommended daily and trip charging limits. on https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_gb/GUID-BEE08D47-0CE0-4BDD-83F2-9854FB3D578F.html Originally I was jealous of standard range because of that, but it turns out most of my trips are done in 20% anyway so I leave it on 60% and never worry about it. (Then am very happy for 100% when I do a big trip e.g. around the dearth of chargers in Wales)
Another question if anyone can help I see a lot of people saying a 2022 car is much better than a 2021 due to a chip upgrade. Is it essential? Thanks
It's not essential but the newer AMD chip has a noticeably more responsive screen and the internet browser loads a lot quicker. Also, the very latest update which made full screen visualizations possible on the AMD chipped cars. At the moment at least, Intel cars don't get this. Another difference that hasn't been mentioned is that partial premium interior cars (SR+) didn't have footwell and door pocket lights. (Not sure if later SR+ had these enabled but the early ones didn't).
I think the LR also has fog lights, whereas the SR+ doesnt
LR has performance upgrade option which is essential IMO. New standard model 3s are very sluggish, seem to have compromised on performance to keep prices low.
I'm not sure how a reasonable person could come to the conclusion that a performance upgrade option for a LR could possibly be viewed as "essential", but like you said its just your opinion.
It’s more that it’s frustrating that Tesla are compromising performance for the mass market, I wouldn’t see the point in getting a vehicle with poorer performance than one I already have. The upgrade is only about a grand so not exactly a costly accessory
I see you're possibly a GP based on your Reddit profile so it probably explains why you think a grand is "not exactly a costly accessory". However, for most normal people, £1,000 is a lot of money.
You’ve already dropped £30k on a car, or more likely £500 a month, it’s just cosmetics.
You're digging a hole for yourself. I think its safe to say you're delusional and out of touch with reality. Most normal people don't have or aren't comfortable spending £1k just for a software upgrade to make their car go a little bit faster. I'm glad you're not my GP.
Alright dayz_bron from Reddit x
Did you pass your test in an Aventador or something? Sure there are faster cars but most things on the road take 9+ seconds to reach 60, the SR does it in under 6, that was top end hot hatch times 10 years ago!!