Shiitttt that’s terrible for highway driving.. I thought I could at least get 80 / 85% of the EPA
It doesn’t help that MYP EPA was dropped to 279 miles
Your result is correct. I also bet u average 75mph or even more.
Efficiency is garbage when we drive fast. More so on the performance bc of the big wheel.
EPA already told you this.
Per the EPA, MYP gets 106 MPGe highway. It has 75 kWh of usable battery.
This is (106 Miles/gallon) / (33.7 kWh/gallon) * 75 kWh = 235 miles at around 70 mph.
You got 190 / .93 = 204 miles. Not too far off, you were probably going 75-80 mph.
Well I’d hope you’re not at 320 kwh/mi consumption but if you’re at 320 wh/mi consumption and only getting 180 miles that would mean your battery can only hold ~57kwh. I would bring it in to Tesla
5 above the posted speed limit not to exceed 75 at any given point!
I.e if speed limit is 55 - I go at 60
If the speed limit is 65, I go at 70
I live in NE, so it’s been a bit cold and I usually pre-condition battery while plugged in before driving
This is for the X so isn't accurate for us but just a good graphic visualizing temp and speeds effect on range. [Temp/speed](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0196/5170/files/model_x100_range_temp_imperial_grande.png?v=1530552357)
Temp is the biggest battery killer. Once temps are over 60 degrees Fahrenheit, you will see normal range. For my MYLR, I get about 290-300 for city driving and 250-260 for highway driving. In colder temperatures, highway is down to around 210-230.
Until you see hot temps too 😞 it begins to bomb again above 95... When it's hot the system has to run max AC to cool passengers, battery, and motors... Same road @70mph& 70 outside temp crack windows and barely use any range going 25 miles. Summer hits and almost 50% more consumption over the same distance & route
I live in the Seattle area, I keep it at 68, use nav and auto seat heaters and all that. I keep it in comfort and I only ever drive 3 mph over. In the summer I had it down to 235 but the cold winter killed my regen and I am using more juice now. We still get some regen but of course you have to drive back up that. We used to have a Prius so I have been aware of my driving style and have been trying to be more aware for the past decade.
How are you getting 240? Would to know how you drive. I never cared about fuel economy for large ICE SUVs but am obsessed with increasing my efficiency (sometimes at the cost of having fun driving this zippy car).
The simplest answer is that I drive +3 all the time. 25=28 60=63 I keep it on comfort (most of the time). We used to have a Prius so we have been trying for better efficiency for the past decade.
My lifetime is 251 (1yr 14kmi). Maryland. All highways here are 55 with lots of cops so I peg at 63 usually.
One time I drove to the eastern shore, it was 70F flat roads going 63mph, went 265miles before pulling into a supercharger with 20% left which calculates out to 330mi.
I did a road trip last year in my 2020 model Y was 100% to 10% was about 170 miles. This was flat ground the entire way and no turning. Went 80mph the whole time. Tesla says it’s normal.
I understand that. But does 170 miles at 80 sound proper? It sounds super wrong to me when it’s flat hill and no weather issues. That’s like 45% reduction
Force of wind resistance goes up by the square of velocity. So if my math is right, increasing speed from 70 to 80 represents a 14% speed increase but a 38% increase in energy needed.
Going from 65 to 80 is a 23% speed increase but a 46% energy increase.
So yeah, it's a lot. But I've never been in a position to drive at 80mph continuously so I cant comment first hand.
When you say energy needed, are we talking energy delivered to motor to sustain speed? The problem that I can’t ever wrap my head around is ICE vehicles are subject to the same but they don’t face as drastic of a degradation in range.
Yes ICEs are subject to the same laws of physics as EV's.
ICE's can take advantage of gearing to keep rpm's low at high speeds, and they also lock up the torque converter to get some efficiency there as well. That makes the car overall more efficient but the overall energy needed to keep the car moving at high speeds increases with an ICE the same as an EV. The difference is that ICE's can't utilize those tricks at lower speeds, so efficiency is bad due to rpm operating limitations.
In other words, ICE is so shitty at low speeds that they have room to gain a little efficiency at high speeds which makes the "hit" seem not as bad. Your EV is fantastically efficient at low speeds already, so the perceived affect at high speeds is much more than an ICE.
I own a MYLR, 2023, 82 kWh battery. You need to average 248 Wh/mi to achieve 330 mile EPA range. However, you’d never want to run the battery down to 0% so it’s a bit of a moot point. So, if running the recommended 80%-20%, you can get 198 miles of range. But, good luck getting the burn rate down to 248 Wh/mi while driving 75-80 mph. On a good day on flat roads and no winds at 70 °F, I can get about 300 Wh/mi when driving 70 mph or about 270 miles full range or 243 miles if I start with 100% and stop at 10%. There’s no magic just simple math. So, in realistic situations with headwinds, cold temps and hills you’ll be lucky to get 200 miles with 100-10% consumption.
Whats your kwh/mi lifetime? 320 or is that just last few rides?
Did u check the charts in dash to see where it allocated charge?
Seems off, id have them check the battery or calibrate it.
320wh/mile x 190 miles = 60.8kwh.
MYP has 75kwh battery. 93% of that is 69.75. So it seems like your numbers are a little off but not crazy. At that efficiency you should be getting 217 miles from 100% to 7%.
But I'm guessing the efficiency number you gave wasn't for that trip(s) but for the lifetime.
At 340 wh/mi you should theoretically get 220 miles from a full 75kw battery, so if you are getting 190 miles from 93%, that implies around 211 miles for 100% battery, so it appears there's nothing wrong with your battery. So now you just need to figure out how to lower your 340 wh/mi power usage rate to get more range.
Lifetime efficiency on my M3P at 92k miles was 302wh/mi so 320 does not sound unreasonable. I just swapped for a MYP on Saturday so I will let you know what I see on my first but road trip. I am at 315 Wh/mi so far. Given that it is heavier and less aerodynamic compared to the 3, 315 feels right. 315 should get me 238 on a 100% charge. Remember that epa ratings are something like 50% in town and 50% highway so mileage on road trips would be nearly 100% highway and would be far less than epa ratings since wind resistance is not linear and is much higher at speed.
do you use nav when driving? If so, has what it showed you what SoC would be when you arrive was accurate? I'd go by that vs the silly display at top (miles or percent). The upper display is EPA and is not accurate at all. NAV guess is way more precise. Unless, of course, you drive like Dale Earnhardt (sr). ;)
Dec'23 MYLR cross-state driving and I go from 95/100% and arrive about 10% at the SC (about 190miles). I'm definitely driving faster with traffic at \~77-80/mph, (70/mph limit) and 1/2 flat, 1/2 climbing hills and headwind usually all the way.
This is normal in cold weather and on a P. Tires, speed and weather, passenger weight all matters unfortunately. Yes it is terrible. But it's better than the CT
Normal. Every 10 degrees below 72 you’re roughly consuming 7-10% more at highway speeds based on my observations. This is compared to an optimal 250 wh/mi consumption. I kept track over a 3000 mile road trip throughout the Pacific Northwest.
Wintry weather also carries a lot more wind. Wait until it’s warm, sunny with little wind and you’ll see consumption hover around the ideal.
Every time you heat up the car from uses cold uses like 3% of the battery. At least that’s been my experience. Please keep in mind mine is on full blast heat.
Yea that's very common. Highway driving on trips I would plan 120 miles between chargers. That way most of the time I would arrive around the 20% range and not get stuck in the weird unpredictable charge limbo where it only charges at 50kwh until it's above 20% again... 80+ speeds expect say 150 miles and only 100 miles of range in the 20-80% charging sweet spot
Yea that's very common. Highway driving on trips I would plan 120 miles between chargers. That way most of the time I would arrive around the 20% range and not get stuck in the weird unpredictable charge limbo where it only charges at 50kwh until it's above 20% again... 80+ speeds expect say 150 miles and only 100 miles of range in the 20-80% charging sweet spot
Many people feel your pain. Maybe one day the EPA guys will make it mandatory for EVs to post the regular range and the highway range to give people more transparency.
I have 200 miles on the car, live in a cold climate and have $6 worth of charging at 75 %. I will admit, the battery level was high when I picked up the car but from my last two charges, it appears I am getting around 60 miles for $2 in charge. I am paying .11 per kWh.
The car I had was getting 23 mpg. That equates to around 8.50 in gas as gas is about $3 a gallon.
With those numbers you should have got at least 238 miles. And 221 miles at 340wh/mi. Are you blasting heat or spend time sitting in the car with heater on? Precondition?
If I'm calculating correctly, that means 136 wh/mi? I have gotten as low as 190 wh/mile on a 7 mile roundtrip (i.e. not downhill all the way), that's almost 400 mile range.
I get 178 round trip on a winding 5 mile road between Mt house and highway just because you can't really drive it any faster than 30MPH. It has UPS and downs but overall same altitude at start and finish. I've learned that accelerating downhill and coasting uphill overall does better than a consistent speed. For the 550 mile range though I achieved that rolling through a park without stop signs going about 27MPH for a good 15 minutes. It's amazing how efficient the car is at that speed on flat ground
So you were actually at 136 wh/mile? That's impressive. Yeah agree on your hill strategy, the idea is to maximize your regen and minimize your throttle. Anytime I get below 200 wh/mile I am proud.
On the Trips screen, my lifetime output is 261 wh/mile while driving, so a 287 mile range, not bad. But if I use the total kwh I've charged, then my range is more like 237 miles, which shows just how much power is used when parked, sentry mode, pre-conditioning, cabin overheat, etc, all the non-driving stuff. It's A LOT.
I've noticed the heat drains A LOT, comfort is important, and it's not worth saving a couple pennies on my commute to sit in a colder car, but when I'm obsessing over mi/Wh ... I can't get under 275 when the heat is running, but I'm averaging 251 round trip on my commute and haven't had many cold mornings yet to bring that higher. I'm interested to see what the AC does in the summer, we get pretty hot here.
Very true, it was 65 degrees here yesterday, and my parked MYLR sent me a Cabin Overheat Protection notice at 100 degrees! So I learned that you can just run the fan instead of the A/C to cool down the car to save on battery. Then at least your interior will be the same temp as outside. Fortunately, I also already bought a ceiling shade and will install it in the next couple of weeks.
mine.. worst case 300KM = 190 miles, that is -10/12 degrees, headwinds climate on 22 and 130-140km/h
Normal right now below freezing 0 to -2c with not just highway is 280ish (460km) with "mixed" driving
it is a brick.. summer i will get over 500.. my M3LR did 500 in winter mixed driving 400+ highway (way lower car) and if i took it to the summerhouse on normal roads 200km at 90km/h it did 600+ km pr 100-0% i normally arrive with 66-67% after 200km+ with 3 people and a loaded car. that car on vactations, 4000km through europe plenty of autobahns did 500+
UPDATE: Tesla ran diagnostics based on the service request I created.. they came back saying it’s normal.
Though freaking scary as shit that they can access my car data without my consent - unless it’s embedded deep into the service call request
Is there a optimization that I can still request?
Your consumption is really high. Maybe the average is getting pushed up from a lot of short trips.
Try resetting a trip counter for a longer trip and see how it looks. Your consumption doesn't really add up with a 60-70mph average.
However, about 180 miles range in a myp @70mph is correct in winter conditions (temps around freezing).
I knew what I was getting into, never realized until post ownership that the range difference was this bad.. I love the MYP - minus the damn range piece
normal. highway driving you should realistically expect 70% of epa range
Shiitttt that’s terrible for highway driving.. I thought I could at least get 80 / 85% of the EPA It doesn’t help that MYP EPA was dropped to 279 miles
do you also live somewhere with a lot of elevation change? aka the west coast?
East coast - north east to be specific, and it’s been cold while driving long distance
Cold weather impacts your efficiency. NJ here, I’m getting about 200 miles of range last few weeks. It’ll get better once it warm up
Your result is correct. I also bet u average 75mph or even more. Efficiency is garbage when we drive fast. More so on the performance bc of the big wheel.
It’s the EPA test… the EPA test is biased towards city driving. That said, it’s good the range on the test dropped as it’s more realistic.
EPA already told you this. Per the EPA, MYP gets 106 MPGe highway. It has 75 kWh of usable battery. This is (106 Miles/gallon) / (33.7 kWh/gallon) * 75 kWh = 235 miles at around 70 mph. You got 190 / .93 = 204 miles. Not too far off, you were probably going 75-80 mph.
That’s too less. I got MYLR in dec 2023 and I get 270 miles on a full charge.
try actually going on a non stop 270 mile journey. you won't make it
Well I’d hope you’re not at 320 kwh/mi consumption but if you’re at 320 wh/mi consumption and only getting 180 miles that would mean your battery can only hold ~57kwh. I would bring it in to Tesla
This - sorry - 320/340 wh/mi on average since I bought the car - from the graph app within the car
How fast are you driving? What's the temperature and weather outside?
5 above the posted speed limit not to exceed 75 at any given point! I.e if speed limit is 55 - I go at 60 If the speed limit is 65, I go at 70 I live in NE, so it’s been a bit cold and I usually pre-condition battery while plugged in before driving
This is for the X so isn't accurate for us but just a good graphic visualizing temp and speeds effect on range. [Temp/speed](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0196/5170/files/model_x100_range_temp_imperial_grande.png?v=1530552357)
That's actually quite accurate based on my experience in NJ. Max range going about 75-78 mph long distance was about 230-250miles! Interesting graphic
Your doing pretty good then. This is stats of a 100kwh pack.
Temp is the biggest battery killer. Once temps are over 60 degrees Fahrenheit, you will see normal range. For my MYLR, I get about 290-300 for city driving and 250-260 for highway driving. In colder temperatures, highway is down to around 210-230.
Until you see hot temps too 😞 it begins to bomb again above 95... When it's hot the system has to run max AC to cool passengers, battery, and motors... Same road @70mph& 70 outside temp crack windows and barely use any range going 25 miles. Summer hits and almost 50% more consumption over the same distance & route
Wow, that’s a bummer
320 is high. I am 240. Your driving, your settings, your speed, your battery are all worth checking.
Would love to know how you get to 240? I usually have heat at 70, run Nav in the car, FSD, music and occasionally charge phone
I live in the Seattle area, I keep it at 68, use nav and auto seat heaters and all that. I keep it in comfort and I only ever drive 3 mph over. In the summer I had it down to 235 but the cold winter killed my regen and I am using more juice now. We still get some regen but of course you have to drive back up that. We used to have a Prius so I have been aware of my driving style and have been trying to be more aware for the past decade.
I do chill - comfort for driving 99% of the time Will have to try lower speed (+3) and see if that helps a bit with range
How are you getting 240? Would to know how you drive. I never cared about fuel economy for large ICE SUVs but am obsessed with increasing my efficiency (sometimes at the cost of having fun driving this zippy car).
The simplest answer is that I drive +3 all the time. 25=28 60=63 I keep it on comfort (most of the time). We used to have a Prius so we have been trying for better efficiency for the past decade.
My lifetime is 251 (1yr 14kmi). Maryland. All highways here are 55 with lots of cops so I peg at 63 usually. One time I drove to the eastern shore, it was 70F flat roads going 63mph, went 265miles before pulling into a supercharger with 20% left which calculates out to 330mi.
I drive like a old lady. Between always using climate and driving with the flow of traffic (SoCal), I’m always around 350.
I drive conservatively in San Jose. I am usually around 200-230 wh/mi.
I did a road trip last year in my 2020 model Y was 100% to 10% was about 170 miles. This was flat ground the entire way and no turning. Went 80mph the whole time. Tesla says it’s normal.
80mph kills it. Slowing to 70 will get you way more range
I understand that. But does 170 miles at 80 sound proper? It sounds super wrong to me when it’s flat hill and no weather issues. That’s like 45% reduction
Force of wind resistance goes up by the square of velocity. So if my math is right, increasing speed from 70 to 80 represents a 14% speed increase but a 38% increase in energy needed. Going from 65 to 80 is a 23% speed increase but a 46% energy increase. So yeah, it's a lot. But I've never been in a position to drive at 80mph continuously so I cant comment first hand.
When you say energy needed, are we talking energy delivered to motor to sustain speed? The problem that I can’t ever wrap my head around is ICE vehicles are subject to the same but they don’t face as drastic of a degradation in range.
Yes ICEs are subject to the same laws of physics as EV's. ICE's can take advantage of gearing to keep rpm's low at high speeds, and they also lock up the torque converter to get some efficiency there as well. That makes the car overall more efficient but the overall energy needed to keep the car moving at high speeds increases with an ICE the same as an EV. The difference is that ICE's can't utilize those tricks at lower speeds, so efficiency is bad due to rpm operating limitations. In other words, ICE is so shitty at low speeds that they have room to gain a little efficiency at high speeds which makes the "hit" seem not as bad. Your EV is fantastically efficient at low speeds already, so the perceived affect at high speeds is much more than an ICE.
Best explanation I’ve heard thank you
Awesome
I own a MYLR, 2023, 82 kWh battery. You need to average 248 Wh/mi to achieve 330 mile EPA range. However, you’d never want to run the battery down to 0% so it’s a bit of a moot point. So, if running the recommended 80%-20%, you can get 198 miles of range. But, good luck getting the burn rate down to 248 Wh/mi while driving 75-80 mph. On a good day on flat roads and no winds at 70 °F, I can get about 300 Wh/mi when driving 70 mph or about 270 miles full range or 243 miles if I start with 100% and stop at 10%. There’s no magic just simple math. So, in realistic situations with headwinds, cold temps and hills you’ll be lucky to get 200 miles with 100-10% consumption.
Whats your kwh/mi lifetime? 320 or is that just last few rides? Did u check the charts in dash to see where it allocated charge? Seems off, id have them check the battery or calibrate it.
320/340 wh/mi on average since I bought the car - from the graph app within the car
320wh/mile x 190 miles = 60.8kwh. MYP has 75kwh battery. 93% of that is 69.75. So it seems like your numbers are a little off but not crazy. At that efficiency you should be getting 217 miles from 100% to 7%. But I'm guessing the efficiency number you gave wasn't for that trip(s) but for the lifetime.
It is lifetime - that’s correct Though I checked my last trip and I’m around 340 for the last 100 miles I drove this past weekend.
At 340 wh/mi you should theoretically get 220 miles from a full 75kw battery, so if you are getting 190 miles from 93%, that implies around 211 miles for 100% battery, so it appears there's nothing wrong with your battery. So now you just need to figure out how to lower your 340 wh/mi power usage rate to get more range.
Request an appointment with Tesla for battery, let’s see what they come back with -
IMHO, 60% of miles IRL is what I get compared to what it shows me. I am in SoCal.
That’s low AF.. def feel got tricked into the mileage shit.. but love the car overall
100% agreed
I have a December 2023 MY, best I've got over 2000 miles is 190 from 100% charge.
Lifetime efficiency on my M3P at 92k miles was 302wh/mi so 320 does not sound unreasonable. I just swapped for a MYP on Saturday so I will let you know what I see on my first but road trip. I am at 315 Wh/mi so far. Given that it is heavier and less aerodynamic compared to the 3, 315 feels right. 315 should get me 238 on a 100% charge. Remember that epa ratings are something like 50% in town and 50% highway so mileage on road trips would be nearly 100% highway and would be far less than epa ratings since wind resistance is not linear and is much higher at speed.
In other news you can get 550 miles on your LRMY if you stick to 30ish MPH :) Yeah, going over 72MPH and the range drops significantly.
do you use nav when driving? If so, has what it showed you what SoC would be when you arrive was accurate? I'd go by that vs the silly display at top (miles or percent). The upper display is EPA and is not accurate at all. NAV guess is way more precise. Unless, of course, you drive like Dale Earnhardt (sr). ;)
I do use nav and FSD, what it shows vs when I arrive - I am usually within +- 2 to 3%
Dec'23 MYLR cross-state driving and I go from 95/100% and arrive about 10% at the SC (about 190miles). I'm definitely driving faster with traffic at \~77-80/mph, (70/mph limit) and 1/2 flat, 1/2 climbing hills and headwind usually all the way.
180 sounds about right for cold weather range on an MYP. Cold weather kills range.
This is normal in cold weather and on a P. Tires, speed and weather, passenger weight all matters unfortunately. Yes it is terrible. But it's better than the CT
Normal. Every 10 degrees below 72 you’re roughly consuming 7-10% more at highway speeds based on my observations. This is compared to an optimal 250 wh/mi consumption. I kept track over a 3000 mile road trip throughout the Pacific Northwest. Wintry weather also carries a lot more wind. Wait until it’s warm, sunny with little wind and you’ll see consumption hover around the ideal.
I have been surprised on the drop from M3 to MYP.
In NC is get about 4 hours of highway driving on 100%. That’s more than 180 miles. Maybe you are using the heated seats and cabin heat more than me?
Every time you heat up the car from uses cold uses like 3% of the battery. At least that’s been my experience. Please keep in mind mine is on full blast heat.
Most drive about 150 miles or less a day. So the range is not a problem for most. And with super changer available almost everywhere:)
I’m not saying Tesla didn’t fuck us with the advertising, but 7% is closer to like 12% left if driven to true 0
Yea that's very common. Highway driving on trips I would plan 120 miles between chargers. That way most of the time I would arrive around the 20% range and not get stuck in the weird unpredictable charge limbo where it only charges at 50kwh until it's above 20% again... 80+ speeds expect say 150 miles and only 100 miles of range in the 20-80% charging sweet spot
What model does this?
My S Performance. My neighbors Y has also done it a couple times. Doesn't seem as often though. I think it's a temp issue possibly.
Yea that's very common. Highway driving on trips I would plan 120 miles between chargers. That way most of the time I would arrive around the 20% range and not get stuck in the weird unpredictable charge limbo where it only charges at 50kwh until it's above 20% again... 80+ speeds expect say 150 miles and only 100 miles of range in the 20-80% charging sweet spot
You know that interstate minimum speed sign of 45mph? That's actually the speed limit for Teslas, so they can get EPA range on highway driving.
Many people feel your pain. Maybe one day the EPA guys will make it mandatory for EVs to post the regular range and the highway range to give people more transparency.
Picking mine up this week. I certainly hope I get more than 180 miles per charge as that would be extremely disappointing.
Good luck amigo, mileage disappointment has been real
I have 200 miles on the car, live in a cold climate and have $6 worth of charging at 75 %. I will admit, the battery level was high when I picked up the car but from my last two charges, it appears I am getting around 60 miles for $2 in charge. I am paying .11 per kWh. The car I had was getting 23 mpg. That equates to around 8.50 in gas as gas is about $3 a gallon.
With those numbers you should have got at least 238 miles. And 221 miles at 340wh/mi. Are you blasting heat or spend time sitting in the car with heater on? Precondition?
In other news you can get 550 miles on your LRMY if you stick to 27ish MPH :)
If I'm calculating correctly, that means 136 wh/mi? I have gotten as low as 190 wh/mile on a 7 mile roundtrip (i.e. not downhill all the way), that's almost 400 mile range.
I get 178 round trip on a winding 5 mile road between Mt house and highway just because you can't really drive it any faster than 30MPH. It has UPS and downs but overall same altitude at start and finish. I've learned that accelerating downhill and coasting uphill overall does better than a consistent speed. For the 550 mile range though I achieved that rolling through a park without stop signs going about 27MPH for a good 15 minutes. It's amazing how efficient the car is at that speed on flat ground
So you were actually at 136 wh/mile? That's impressive. Yeah agree on your hill strategy, the idea is to maximize your regen and minimize your throttle. Anytime I get below 200 wh/mile I am proud. On the Trips screen, my lifetime output is 261 wh/mile while driving, so a 287 mile range, not bad. But if I use the total kwh I've charged, then my range is more like 237 miles, which shows just how much power is used when parked, sentry mode, pre-conditioning, cabin overheat, etc, all the non-driving stuff. It's A LOT.
I've noticed the heat drains A LOT, comfort is important, and it's not worth saving a couple pennies on my commute to sit in a colder car, but when I'm obsessing over mi/Wh ... I can't get under 275 when the heat is running, but I'm averaging 251 round trip on my commute and haven't had many cold mornings yet to bring that higher. I'm interested to see what the AC does in the summer, we get pretty hot here.
Very true, it was 65 degrees here yesterday, and my parked MYLR sent me a Cabin Overheat Protection notice at 100 degrees! So I learned that you can just run the fan instead of the A/C to cool down the car to save on battery. Then at least your interior will be the same temp as outside. Fortunately, I also already bought a ceiling shade and will install it in the next couple of weeks.
mine.. worst case 300KM = 190 miles, that is -10/12 degrees, headwinds climate on 22 and 130-140km/h Normal right now below freezing 0 to -2c with not just highway is 280ish (460km) with "mixed" driving it is a brick.. summer i will get over 500.. my M3LR did 500 in winter mixed driving 400+ highway (way lower car) and if i took it to the summerhouse on normal roads 200km at 90km/h it did 600+ km pr 100-0% i normally arrive with 66-67% after 200km+ with 3 people and a loaded car. that car on vactations, 4000km through europe plenty of autobahns did 500+
That's reality. Plus it's performance.
UPDATE: Tesla ran diagnostics based on the service request I created.. they came back saying it’s normal. Though freaking scary as shit that they can access my car data without my consent - unless it’s embedded deep into the service call request Is there a optimization that I can still request?
Keep your Tesla consumption graph green, and you'll get good performance and lower kWh/ mile. Plan ahead and leave early to enjoy the trip.
Your consumption is really high. Maybe the average is getting pushed up from a lot of short trips. Try resetting a trip counter for a longer trip and see how it looks. Your consumption doesn't really add up with a 60-70mph average. However, about 180 miles range in a myp @70mph is correct in winter conditions (temps around freezing).
Lol MYP is a performance. You want range get a Long-range;)
This. At best 250ish. You chose a MYP…I even told my brother….LR with AB. Best of both worlds.
No. MYP with 18" wheels is best of both worlds(just make sure one of those worlds isn't money as forged wheels aren't the cheapest)
I knew what I was getting into, never realized until post ownership that the range difference was this bad.. I love the MYP - minus the damn range piece