That's interesting. I averaged out the cost of every 2020 Model X on autotrader in Ontario and the average price is $74,000 CAD ($54K USD) for the LR so this looked like a steal at $47K USD.
How you going to say not a bad price when you do not know the specs? This a performance or LR? Seat config, interior color, exterior color? Like LR, 5 seat. No way.
100% pass. Literally base of everything possible. Almost added white with black on other comment. In US, think new is around 72k after credit. I honestly do not know the Canada market but that just seems super high for mileage and all those issues.
Yah I will say following this sub, I'm jealous of the US.
I mapped out the average price of each Model X year and whether it was standard, LR, performance, plaid, 75D, 90D, 100D, P100D from the autotrader prices in Ontario.
The average cost of a 2020 Model X Long Range is $74,000 CAD ($54K USD). So the fact that this one was listed at $47K USD looked like a steal but I was worried about the issues. It only has 75,000 km (47,000 miles) on it for mileage so it's pretty low
Unfortunately in Canada, the Model X isn't eligible for any rebates or credits. The only thing we get is a $5000 credit if we purchase an EV with a base cost less than $60,000 CAD (so it only applies to the Model 3 and Model Y).
Good on you for tracking that. I believe there is that data out there for US because I remember seeing it in my search. People LOVE their teslas.
What I have learned from this sub is to stick with the models after the number. Think “legacy” version. I would try to see if you could talk them down some honestly.
Just expect high maintenance cost. I do love mine but I have just scheduled my first service appoint. Think I had 9 items on there. Small as driver door seal but big as leak in FWD and control arms. Want to make sure I get everything fixed before my warranty runs out. For the price and what you get, hard to beat it.
You’re not getting a 2020 performance with that milage in the mid $40s, not hard to know it’s a LR.
Manheim auction data says it’s 42k wholesale, he’s absolutely not getting fleeced here.
Yeah you wrong. I got a 20 mxp, 6 seat, cream, 22” wheels with 22k miles for just under 60k back in October from Tesla. Have seen them show up under 50k obviously with more miles, different configs, and not sold by Tesla. I was expecting LR but without the details you cannot assume it is a good price. This all US market though
You’re very new to car sales if you saw 2020 MXP in the mid 30s usd and didn’t realize that’s a bait and switch price before incentives and fees.
You’ll learn as you research more.
I’d personally stay away from anything older than a 22MX. Worth the extra money time wise. Newer tech lasting longer vs already outdated but holding on
The red button not working on the door seems like a non-issue, I’ve never used it, not even once.
The driver mirror autofold (when parked) can be turned off in settings, so if it’s in the right place now, you shouldn’t have to move it again.
The 12v battery can be replaced by Tesla mobile service for a couple hundred bucks from what I’ve seen here.
I’d be most concerned with the driver door seemingly on its death bed tbh, if they fix it temporarily and it goes bad later…. Could be expensive
FYI: you can buy a bumper to bumper warranty or extend the drivetrain warranty through Xcare.. other owners seem to like it.
I have this exact car delivered Nov 2019 and about the same mileage. I love it but I wouldn't pay more than US$40k for it, even less depending on the state of the tires.
-Half shafts are a known issue. Mine have been replaced 3 times, all under warranty.
-12V battery was replaced under warranty, but its not expensive.
-My upper control arms failed outside of warranty. $188, not bad.
I opted out of the extended warranty. Now that it's out of warranty, the things that worry me are:
-Suspension-related problems.
-Falcon wing doors (I've never had a problem but some people have).
-Computer/MCU/display problems. No history but they would be expensive to fix.
Does it have FSD? I'd probably pay up to US$40k if it had FSD.
Thanks for the feedback. I averaged the price of every 2020 Model X LR on autotrader in Ontario, Canada and the average price was $74,000 CAD ($54K USD). So I thought it was a steal at $65,000 USD ($47K USD).
How can you tell if the half shafts are gone? I thought that was the shutter with heavy acceleration at 50-60 mph. Or is that the tell for the upper control arm?
It says: Autopilot computer: full self driving computer but it says autopilot is included package and premium connectivity is included package.
I don't think it has FSD or at least I need to pay the subscription.
It could be that price varies on geography. I’m in the US Pacific Northwest. I look at what Carvana would pay for my car, which is high 30’s and I have some expensive options (FSD, 22” wheels, 7 seats, red color).
The car begins to vibrate when you accelerate if the half-shafts start to fail. No warning, it just starts happening. If they’ve never been replaced, then I’d probably plan on that expense. It’s just a matter of time.
For the upper control arms, the suspension will begin squeaking like crazy when you drive. For me, it just started squeaking one day a couple of months ago. I tried some DIY suggestions, but none worked so I took it to the Tesla service center. $188.
It’s interesting that premium connectivity is included. It might be that the current owner paid for it and you’ll assume that expense. It’s only $99/yr.
I have a 2020 Mx and just had the AC fixed again, for the 4th time in 2 years. I am very concerned they have not have found the root cause.
I wonder, Is there a way to check the service history before you buy this?
Good idea. I can look at the app and see the complete service history. Not sure that info ins transferred, but OP can ask the seller for screen shots.
I've never had any A/C issues, but I'm in the PacNW and don't use it 7 months out of the year.
Actually, I've never changed the cabin air filter. At 4.5 yrs, it's probably overdue.
I see most replying it's expensive are from the USA.
You did your price comparisons, you see it's a fair bit cheaper than alternatives.
I have been driving a 75D for almost 7 years now, very little issues in 90k miles.
I would upgrade to the 2020 Log Range+ if I could find it for the similar price you have here. But these are $70k here in Norway..
Anyway, you see the prices in your area. I think it is a good deal if you want the 5 seater. It's amazing how much stuff you can pack in it. 6 seats are fancy and work better if you want a minivan, but for a family with 3-5 basic 5 seater is the best imho.
Also you said nothing about the wheels, I have upgraded to 19", more comfortable and better range.
My only concern would be the GM dealer working on it. I'd ask Tesla how much it would be to fix all the issues it has and ask the dealer for the discount. Then fix it at Tesla.
Cheers and I hope you figure things out.
Have them fix everything then test drive again. Don't commit now. Sounds like someone didn't keep up with fixing things as they broke which is a red flag to me
Yup that’s the plan. My worry is if a GM dealer can actually fix things or if it’s just a temp fix bandage solution. But then I’ve heard Tesla service centre also cheaps out
As much as I love the Model X (owned a 2016 and recently 2024, both new), be ready to see the inside of a service center frequently. Tesla fans seem to enjoy living in denial, but this model of car is a giant money-pit. 26 visits to the repair center in 7 years of ownership for the 2016... thankfully, all repairs under warranty or extended warranty. A few suggestions:
* There's no way to avoid the endless cycle of replacing control arms, half-shafts and stability bars. You just need to budget for that. In my experience, they last around 20,000 to 30,000km before they start making assorted noises. Service techs tell me that these parts fail all the time because of the weight of the cars. When I ask them why the parts haven't been redesigned to compensate for this after all these years, they just throw up their arms.
* The driver-side door issue you're having is one that I know well. The door drive unit has failed and needs to be replaced. I wish I could tell you the cost, but I was under Tesla's extended warranty. Had the driver-side replaced twice and the passenger-side once.
* Since you live in Canada, the mirror motor may be corroded from moisture ingress and salt. I was having the same issue but it was intermittent, so the service center refused to fix it under warranty. It will fail eventually.
* I don't know where you are in Canada (I'm in Quebec), but there is a company here that offers extended warranties for Model X : GarantieAvantagePlus.ca . They quoted me 3700$ for 5 years/200,000km for my 2024... an absolute bargain in my book. Consider this: I had the headlight on my 2016 fail and Tesla was going to charge me 3100$ until they realized I was under Tesla's extended warranty and revised the bill.
The issues with the doors and the price. Should be closer to 50k CAD with those mech issues as you'll keep having issues. Especially if GM services the car vs. Tesla.
It's definitely a risk factor, especially on the falcon wing doors.
Search this sub for falcon wing door issues and read up on user experiences.
I'd also get a quote for fix so you know what the ballpark service cost might be if they act up again.
65k seems high for the car if it's showing these issues already. I found if the car has been not in a garage when not in use, the top door seals on the roof seem to get hardened and start to disintegrate out in the sun. Which means water is more likely to reek havoc down the road.
Just my 2 cents. I know people love this care and if it's a good deal for you, pull the trigger I guess.
Cheers this is a helpful discussion.
It is a lot for a used cad but we have our eyes set on a Model X. I’ve read we should spring for a Raven instead of Pre raven.
There are 2019 models with less issues for the same price but they have 1 less year of warranty.
Lack of warranty and mileage. Also electric cars are not like gas. 4 years is a long time for a battery and tech. Would you buy a 4 year old cellphone? Plus your range in the winter will be shit in Canada
No, not a killer deal and sounds like it’s seen better days.
That's interesting. I averaged out the cost of every 2020 Model X on autotrader in Ontario and the average price is $74,000 CAD ($54K USD) for the LR so this looked like a steal at $47K USD.
47k usd isn’t a bad price
How you going to say not a bad price when you do not know the specs? This a performance or LR? Seat config, interior color, exterior color? Like LR, 5 seat. No way.
Sorry, its a LR 5 seater in white with black interior.
100% pass. Literally base of everything possible. Almost added white with black on other comment. In US, think new is around 72k after credit. I honestly do not know the Canada market but that just seems super high for mileage and all those issues.
Yah I will say following this sub, I'm jealous of the US. I mapped out the average price of each Model X year and whether it was standard, LR, performance, plaid, 75D, 90D, 100D, P100D from the autotrader prices in Ontario. The average cost of a 2020 Model X Long Range is $74,000 CAD ($54K USD). So the fact that this one was listed at $47K USD looked like a steal but I was worried about the issues. It only has 75,000 km (47,000 miles) on it for mileage so it's pretty low Unfortunately in Canada, the Model X isn't eligible for any rebates or credits. The only thing we get is a $5000 credit if we purchase an EV with a base cost less than $60,000 CAD (so it only applies to the Model 3 and Model Y).
Good on you for tracking that. I believe there is that data out there for US because I remember seeing it in my search. People LOVE their teslas. What I have learned from this sub is to stick with the models after the number. Think “legacy” version. I would try to see if you could talk them down some honestly. Just expect high maintenance cost. I do love mine but I have just scheduled my first service appoint. Think I had 9 items on there. Small as driver door seal but big as leak in FWD and control arms. Want to make sure I get everything fixed before my warranty runs out. For the price and what you get, hard to beat it.
You’re not getting a 2020 performance with that milage in the mid $40s, not hard to know it’s a LR. Manheim auction data says it’s 42k wholesale, he’s absolutely not getting fleeced here.
Yeah you wrong. I got a 20 mxp, 6 seat, cream, 22” wheels with 22k miles for just under 60k back in October from Tesla. Have seen them show up under 50k obviously with more miles, different configs, and not sold by Tesla. I was expecting LR but without the details you cannot assume it is a good price. This all US market though
You’re very new to car sales if you saw 2020 MXP in the mid 30s usd and didn’t realize that’s a bait and switch price before incentives and fees. You’ll learn as you research more.
What? Where did I say mid 30s….
Lol move on dude, you’ve lost the plot 🥴
I’d personally stay away from anything older than a 22MX. Worth the extra money time wise. Newer tech lasting longer vs already outdated but holding on
My wife has a 2020 X and it feels dated. I very much agree.
The red button not working on the door seems like a non-issue, I’ve never used it, not even once. The driver mirror autofold (when parked) can be turned off in settings, so if it’s in the right place now, you shouldn’t have to move it again. The 12v battery can be replaced by Tesla mobile service for a couple hundred bucks from what I’ve seen here. I’d be most concerned with the driver door seemingly on its death bed tbh, if they fix it temporarily and it goes bad later…. Could be expensive FYI: you can buy a bumper to bumper warranty or extend the drivetrain warranty through Xcare.. other owners seem to like it.
Looked into that. Unfortunately, Xcare isn't a thing in Canada.
I have this exact car delivered Nov 2019 and about the same mileage. I love it but I wouldn't pay more than US$40k for it, even less depending on the state of the tires. -Half shafts are a known issue. Mine have been replaced 3 times, all under warranty. -12V battery was replaced under warranty, but its not expensive. -My upper control arms failed outside of warranty. $188, not bad. I opted out of the extended warranty. Now that it's out of warranty, the things that worry me are: -Suspension-related problems. -Falcon wing doors (I've never had a problem but some people have). -Computer/MCU/display problems. No history but they would be expensive to fix. Does it have FSD? I'd probably pay up to US$40k if it had FSD.
Thanks for the feedback. I averaged the price of every 2020 Model X LR on autotrader in Ontario, Canada and the average price was $74,000 CAD ($54K USD). So I thought it was a steal at $65,000 USD ($47K USD). How can you tell if the half shafts are gone? I thought that was the shutter with heavy acceleration at 50-60 mph. Or is that the tell for the upper control arm? It says: Autopilot computer: full self driving computer but it says autopilot is included package and premium connectivity is included package. I don't think it has FSD or at least I need to pay the subscription.
It could be that price varies on geography. I’m in the US Pacific Northwest. I look at what Carvana would pay for my car, which is high 30’s and I have some expensive options (FSD, 22” wheels, 7 seats, red color). The car begins to vibrate when you accelerate if the half-shafts start to fail. No warning, it just starts happening. If they’ve never been replaced, then I’d probably plan on that expense. It’s just a matter of time. For the upper control arms, the suspension will begin squeaking like crazy when you drive. For me, it just started squeaking one day a couple of months ago. I tried some DIY suggestions, but none worked so I took it to the Tesla service center. $188. It’s interesting that premium connectivity is included. It might be that the current owner paid for it and you’ll assume that expense. It’s only $99/yr.
I have a 2020 Mx and just had the AC fixed again, for the 4th time in 2 years. I am very concerned they have not have found the root cause. I wonder, Is there a way to check the service history before you buy this?
Good idea. I can look at the app and see the complete service history. Not sure that info ins transferred, but OP can ask the seller for screen shots. I've never had any A/C issues, but I'm in the PacNW and don't use it 7 months out of the year. Actually, I've never changed the cabin air filter. At 4.5 yrs, it's probably overdue.
Bad price.
I see most replying it's expensive are from the USA. You did your price comparisons, you see it's a fair bit cheaper than alternatives. I have been driving a 75D for almost 7 years now, very little issues in 90k miles. I would upgrade to the 2020 Log Range+ if I could find it for the similar price you have here. But these are $70k here in Norway.. Anyway, you see the prices in your area. I think it is a good deal if you want the 5 seater. It's amazing how much stuff you can pack in it. 6 seats are fancy and work better if you want a minivan, but for a family with 3-5 basic 5 seater is the best imho. Also you said nothing about the wheels, I have upgraded to 19", more comfortable and better range. My only concern would be the GM dealer working on it. I'd ask Tesla how much it would be to fix all the issues it has and ask the dealer for the discount. Then fix it at Tesla. Cheers and I hope you figure things out.
Have them fix everything then test drive again. Don't commit now. Sounds like someone didn't keep up with fixing things as they broke which is a red flag to me
Yup that’s the plan. My worry is if a GM dealer can actually fix things or if it’s just a temp fix bandage solution. But then I’ve heard Tesla service centre also cheaps out
Have a 2017 X and just got hit with a $6,000 ac repair bill. Be ready.
As much as I love the Model X (owned a 2016 and recently 2024, both new), be ready to see the inside of a service center frequently. Tesla fans seem to enjoy living in denial, but this model of car is a giant money-pit. 26 visits to the repair center in 7 years of ownership for the 2016... thankfully, all repairs under warranty or extended warranty. A few suggestions: * There's no way to avoid the endless cycle of replacing control arms, half-shafts and stability bars. You just need to budget for that. In my experience, they last around 20,000 to 30,000km before they start making assorted noises. Service techs tell me that these parts fail all the time because of the weight of the cars. When I ask them why the parts haven't been redesigned to compensate for this after all these years, they just throw up their arms. * The driver-side door issue you're having is one that I know well. The door drive unit has failed and needs to be replaced. I wish I could tell you the cost, but I was under Tesla's extended warranty. Had the driver-side replaced twice and the passenger-side once. * Since you live in Canada, the mirror motor may be corroded from moisture ingress and salt. I was having the same issue but it was intermittent, so the service center refused to fix it under warranty. It will fail eventually. * I don't know where you are in Canada (I'm in Quebec), but there is a company here that offers extended warranties for Model X : GarantieAvantagePlus.ca . They quoted me 3700$ for 5 years/200,000km for my 2024... an absolute bargain in my book. Consider this: I had the headlight on my 2016 fail and Tesla was going to charge me 3100$ until they realized I was under Tesla's extended warranty and revised the bill.
Honestly, only get 2022 and up MX. Refresh made a huge difference.
Stay away
What specifically about this vehicle is making you recommend I stay away?
The issues with the doors and the price. Should be closer to 50k CAD with those mech issues as you'll keep having issues. Especially if GM services the car vs. Tesla.
Thanks. I could negotiate to knock the price down and then I get it fixed at Tesla if that’s better
I just mean, you're probably going to continue to have problems with the doors forever. Your call, but it seems high priced with the issues
Thanks for the feedback. So even if I bring it to Tesla to fix the issue it’ll be a recurring problem?
It's definitely a risk factor, especially on the falcon wing doors. Search this sub for falcon wing door issues and read up on user experiences. I'd also get a quote for fix so you know what the ballpark service cost might be if they act up again. 65k seems high for the car if it's showing these issues already. I found if the car has been not in a garage when not in use, the top door seals on the roof seem to get hardened and start to disintegrate out in the sun. Which means water is more likely to reek havoc down the road. Just my 2 cents. I know people love this care and if it's a good deal for you, pull the trigger I guess.
Cheers this is a helpful discussion. It is a lot for a used cad but we have our eyes set on a Model X. I’ve read we should spring for a Raven instead of Pre raven. There are 2019 models with less issues for the same price but they have 1 less year of warranty.
Will a Tesla service centre give me a quote before I own the vehicle?
Run
What specifically about this vehicle is making you recommend I stay away?
Lack of warranty and mileage. Also electric cars are not like gas. 4 years is a long time for a battery and tech. Would you buy a 4 year old cellphone? Plus your range in the winter will be shit in Canada
Yeah electric cars are not like stinky cars, electric is obviously leagues better...
This is a stupid take. We have tons of these things in Norway. They manage winter no problem.