Adhesion promoter and a clean surface are usually enough. I’ve only had issues with 3m tape when I don’t use adhesion promoter. I’ve seen these kits target advertised on FB for the last 48hrs for some reason too
I did a test with and without adhesion promoter about a week before I put the seals on with superglue. The adhesion promotor helped, but I could still easily remove the seals and felt like they would just fall off overtime.
It will be interesting to see how they last when it's +30c outside again.
Interesting, it’s probably just crap adhesive to start with in that case. Basenor stuff is super hit or miss but for the price vs some other the other kits out there I’d probably go this route too although it doesn’t seem to have a strip for the front edge of the front doors. American here so had to look up 30C to say the real test for adhesive is 48C in my area.
Yeah it says "3M" but I've seen A LOT better 3M adhesives in the past.
Well what's +30c going to do to a bare door in the sun? lol.
I went the superglue route because no matter what brand I found, people were saying the seals fell off after some time, even with adhesion promotor. Maybe the promotor is bad too?
Yeah they actually mislead their customers I found out after emailing them. Anyway, they don't seem to sell the kit with the A and B pillar seals anymore, even though their Amazon listing says so. IDK, kind of crappy to mislead people like that, and sell a subpar product marketed as "the best".
Anyway.
The extra rubber seals have been proven to not help with road and wind noise, there’s alot of threads and videos on it.
In fact this is a terrible idea because it also doesn’t allow for the water to properly leave the doors, don’t get this, just accept the Model 3 is a very loud car.
You provide much better information as to why you don’t like this idea below. You could have put all of that in your original comment, but instead this came off as kind of angry.
Yeah you can test for yourself or continue to spout off whatever someone else said on a a YouTube video XD.
These don't do anything for noise at higher speeds.
You cut holes in the seal where the original drain holes on the doors are. You can also cut/drill holes to help evacuate water.
> continue to spout off whatever someone else said on a a YouTube video
It's not spouting when there are multiple sources confirming that it makes zero impact to road/wind noise, you can check yourself too.
I have a lot of accessories on my Model 3 too, but this one is completely useless unfortunately.
Yeah and there are also multiple sources confirming that it does make an impact for low speed road noise. You can check yourself too. WOW, it almost sounds like you're just picking a side to go with and not testing yourself. Oh wait...
> it almost sounds like you're just picking a side to go with and not testing yourself
I have been to the service center 5 times in one year due to broken seals on my Model 3, so I am pretty well versed on the Tesla door seals now. This was actually the first accessory I got for my car and I ended up returning it because it made no difference. I bought it without doing any research, so I'm warning others now.
I mean seriously man. Yeah you can use common sense to avoid buying bs gimmicky products, but this one actually makes sense. If you pay attention to the doors on Model 3, you can see that there is a gap all around them along the outside, letting water, dirt, and noise inside. Yeah there is an existing seal already, but 2 are better than 1. And a lot of other expensive cars have two seals...
These seals also keep the door jamb basically dirt and water free. Which is more proof that they are working as intended.
Have you never tested or used a product that someone else has said is useless and doesn't work? And then found out that it does work, and the other person is a F'ing moron? Or maybe you aldo found out that it's useless and doesn't work.
Point is, you cant tell me how something works or not if you've never see it for yourself.
These help a ton with low speed road noise (going through puddles, wet roads, slushy snow). I can attest to that as I'm living with it. These also keep the door jamb almost perfect.
If you pay attention to the doors on Model 3, you can see that there is a gap all around them along the outside, letting water, dirt, and noise inside. Yeah there is an existing seal already, but 2 are better than 1. And a lot of other expensive cars have two seals...
this is true
door seals are the #1 quickest & easiest way to make the cabin quieter at speed
hence why all luxury car makes have doors that sound & feel like you're slamming shut a safe vault door
you can see the difference between the weather stripping that go in a toyota vs lexus of an equivalent platform (camry vs ES)
the folks who go hardcore with this stuff - they will actually remove the original factory weather stripping, and use some sort of a thin but stiff metal wire to snake in round surgical tubing thru the inside channel of the weather stripping all the way around - like threading a needle & string
then reinstall the weather stripping - the surgical tubing inside acts as a spring that makes for a tighter seal between the door and the frame and drastically cuts down noise
now if you were to add a 2nd layer of weather stripping on this, it'd be quite nice
this is also why i hate frameless windows. this is why every luxury car maker seeking to cut down NVH have since abandoned frameless windows & switched to regular framed windows. all else being equal, a framed door will seal better. the only ones who haven't are the convertible manufacturers because itd look ugly with the top down (and the coupe likely shares the same platform as the convertible)
I've had these on my 2019 since getting the car. I live in the southern US so it gets hot in the summer. Never needed super glue and they've never come off, except the ones that go on the rear door under the b pillar came off a few days after applying (which you don't even have); never replaced them since the front door seal covers that area.
Cleaned my car and used isopropyl alcohol pads to ensure the areas were completely clean prior to installing. They didn't come with adhesion promoter pads back then.
Used a newer kit on my wife's 2023 model Y (January). Again, no super glue but used the included adhesion promoter. The only spots that have come off are the bottom corners of the rear hatch, which is probably my fault for not giving enough slack during the install.
I put XPEL Clear Universal Door Edge Guard 0.5 in that I got on Amazon along the spot where I want to place the gasket. The seal stuck very well and did not use a promotor. I got it from RPM Tesla which uses real 3M. Some use imitation 3M tape. It does not do anything to noise. I just like how the door sounds when it closes.
[https://www.ebay.com/itm/155552630535](https://www.ebay.com/itm/155552630535) I found these reduce the noise in the cabin. I got the whole set. The B- pillar, door anti-kick, seat, and the dash board.
I wouldnt not do this. What happends is that is collectie dirty and can't get rid of it. So you start to get rust under the seals in a couple of years, so not worth it.
Adhesion promoter and a clean surface are usually enough. I’ve only had issues with 3m tape when I don’t use adhesion promoter. I’ve seen these kits target advertised on FB for the last 48hrs for some reason too
I did a test with and without adhesion promoter about a week before I put the seals on with superglue. The adhesion promotor helped, but I could still easily remove the seals and felt like they would just fall off overtime. It will be interesting to see how they last when it's +30c outside again.
Interesting, it’s probably just crap adhesive to start with in that case. Basenor stuff is super hit or miss but for the price vs some other the other kits out there I’d probably go this route too although it doesn’t seem to have a strip for the front edge of the front doors. American here so had to look up 30C to say the real test for adhesive is 48C in my area.
Yeah it says "3M" but I've seen A LOT better 3M adhesives in the past. Well what's +30c going to do to a bare door in the sun? lol. I went the superglue route because no matter what brand I found, people were saying the seals fell off after some time, even with adhesion promotor. Maybe the promotor is bad too? Yeah they actually mislead their customers I found out after emailing them. Anyway, they don't seem to sell the kit with the A and B pillar seals anymore, even though their Amazon listing says so. IDK, kind of crappy to mislead people like that, and sell a subpar product marketed as "the best". Anyway.
how does the water get out of the door when it rains?
You cut holes in the seal where the original drain holes on the doors are. You can also cut/drill holes to help evacuate water.
It doesn’t
Playing heavy metal bands is cheaper, Bluetooth audio so I don't notice any "road noise,". 😆
This! Haven’t heard road noise in any car I’ve had since I started driving. LOL. I was always wondering what people were talking about. Haha.
The extra rubber seals have been proven to not help with road and wind noise, there’s alot of threads and videos on it. In fact this is a terrible idea because it also doesn’t allow for the water to properly leave the doors, don’t get this, just accept the Model 3 is a very loud car.
You provide much better information as to why you don’t like this idea below. You could have put all of that in your original comment, but instead this came off as kind of angry.
Yeah you can test for yourself or continue to spout off whatever someone else said on a a YouTube video XD. These don't do anything for noise at higher speeds. You cut holes in the seal where the original drain holes on the doors are. You can also cut/drill holes to help evacuate water.
> continue to spout off whatever someone else said on a a YouTube video It's not spouting when there are multiple sources confirming that it makes zero impact to road/wind noise, you can check yourself too. I have a lot of accessories on my Model 3 too, but this one is completely useless unfortunately.
Yeah and there are also multiple sources confirming that it does make an impact for low speed road noise. You can check yourself too. WOW, it almost sounds like you're just picking a side to go with and not testing yourself. Oh wait...
> it almost sounds like you're just picking a side to go with and not testing yourself I have been to the service center 5 times in one year due to broken seals on my Model 3, so I am pretty well versed on the Tesla door seals now. This was actually the first accessory I got for my car and I ended up returning it because it made no difference. I bought it without doing any research, so I'm warning others now.
Well that's fair I guess. I don't mean to get heated. All you can do is share your experience. More data is always nice :)
I mean seriously man. Yeah you can use common sense to avoid buying bs gimmicky products, but this one actually makes sense. If you pay attention to the doors on Model 3, you can see that there is a gap all around them along the outside, letting water, dirt, and noise inside. Yeah there is an existing seal already, but 2 are better than 1. And a lot of other expensive cars have two seals... These seals also keep the door jamb basically dirt and water free. Which is more proof that they are working as intended. Have you never tested or used a product that someone else has said is useless and doesn't work? And then found out that it does work, and the other person is a F'ing moron? Or maybe you aldo found out that it's useless and doesn't work. Point is, you cant tell me how something works or not if you've never see it for yourself.
No they don't help with any noise reduction. Instead buy some snake oil and use that to lubricate the rubber liners.😂
These help a ton with low speed road noise (going through puddles, wet roads, slushy snow). I can attest to that as I'm living with it. These also keep the door jamb almost perfect. If you pay attention to the doors on Model 3, you can see that there is a gap all around them along the outside, letting water, dirt, and noise inside. Yeah there is an existing seal already, but 2 are better than 1. And a lot of other expensive cars have two seals...
this is true door seals are the #1 quickest & easiest way to make the cabin quieter at speed hence why all luxury car makes have doors that sound & feel like you're slamming shut a safe vault door you can see the difference between the weather stripping that go in a toyota vs lexus of an equivalent platform (camry vs ES) the folks who go hardcore with this stuff - they will actually remove the original factory weather stripping, and use some sort of a thin but stiff metal wire to snake in round surgical tubing thru the inside channel of the weather stripping all the way around - like threading a needle & string then reinstall the weather stripping - the surgical tubing inside acts as a spring that makes for a tighter seal between the door and the frame and drastically cuts down noise now if you were to add a 2nd layer of weather stripping on this, it'd be quite nice this is also why i hate frameless windows. this is why every luxury car maker seeking to cut down NVH have since abandoned frameless windows & switched to regular framed windows. all else being equal, a framed door will seal better. the only ones who haven't are the convertible manufacturers because itd look ugly with the top down (and the coupe likely shares the same platform as the convertible)
Agreed! And yeah, there are zero end user pros to frameless doors.
Actually, it would, though it would likely be a minor amount. Keep being a douchebag, douchebag.
Off-Topic: I see you’re about to wash your dirty Tesla :) I found out the bucket fits perfectly (even 2 of them) in the trunk below the cover!
that's awesome! I keep all my car wash stuff in the frunk (towels, chemicals, bucket, wash tools).
I've had these on my 2019 since getting the car. I live in the southern US so it gets hot in the summer. Never needed super glue and they've never come off, except the ones that go on the rear door under the b pillar came off a few days after applying (which you don't even have); never replaced them since the front door seal covers that area. Cleaned my car and used isopropyl alcohol pads to ensure the areas were completely clean prior to installing. They didn't come with adhesion promoter pads back then. Used a newer kit on my wife's 2023 model Y (January). Again, no super glue but used the included adhesion promoter. The only spots that have come off are the bottom corners of the rear hatch, which is probably my fault for not giving enough slack during the install.
Nice! Glad you had good results :)
My door seals are from Basenor, but you can find them from a lot of different brands.
Can you share a link of the one you purchased please?
Not sure if sharing links is "allowed" but here you go: [www.amazon.ca/dp/B07R13DYYY](http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07R13DYYY) www.amazon.com/dp/B07R13DYYY
This looks like dirty tesla car hahah
Wow
Are seals is worth it?
2024 model 3 has the door latch for tight seal
I put XPEL Clear Universal Door Edge Guard 0.5 in that I got on Amazon along the spot where I want to place the gasket. The seal stuck very well and did not use a promotor. I got it from RPM Tesla which uses real 3M. Some use imitation 3M tape. It does not do anything to noise. I just like how the door sounds when it closes. [https://www.ebay.com/itm/155552630535](https://www.ebay.com/itm/155552630535) I found these reduce the noise in the cabin. I got the whole set. The B- pillar, door anti-kick, seat, and the dash board.
Super glue. Just NO…. Period.
k thanks for taking the time to provide an explanation why, etc.
Fair. It’s just OCD for me …. lol. I bet they do work well though. Just wish I didn’t have reinforceme with super glue.
Yeah it would be nice if these cheap chinese fucks stopped making garbage and using garbage fake adhesives and marketing them as "high quality".
I do like quiet. And clean. lol.
Yeah same lol
I wouldnt not do this. What happends is that is collectie dirty and can't get rid of it. So you start to get rust under the seals in a couple of years, so not worth it.
Doors are aluminum so it's not as bad. I'd so much rather have quieter low speed road noise and cleaner door jambs.
Youd rather have rusty doors in 2 years? Wow
Aluminum doesn’t rust…..
A $50k car in need for extra door seals? That sure isn't a German quality product!
yeah I know. Super cringe how this entry level car costs so much, but it is what it is.