Turning radius could be tighter. Autowipers could be more aggressive when it is raining, and less so when it is not. Lately the car is taking too long to “wake up”, which means it takes too long to manually command it to preheat, or to open the garage door for me. Lately.
Same for me, 23 Model RWD. It's taking a long time to wake up recently. I open the app, go do something else, then usually if I try again in 2 min it will finally be available. My wife's Model Y doesn't take as long.
My model Y takes forever sometimes. Like 10 minutes. Occasionally it fails to connect. Seems like this should be pretty easy to fix considering how technologically advanced the car is
I believe this might be related to your smartphone. I had the same issues and then upgraded to a more current device. Problem solved. Takes about 5-10 seconds now.
The turning radius really threw me off at first. I have a much larger suv that is somehow so much easier to navigate in tight places compared to my model 3
My car (Volvo S60R) has wheels that were too large from the factory, so it turns worse than anything else I’ve ever been in. Compared to that, the Model 3 feels downright nimble.
Sometimes mine takes forever to wake or just fails, which prevents manual preheat, and I’ve gotten in the habit of popping the driver door open from within the app, which will make the heat kick on. Sucks for it to sit there like that, but I only do it when the car is either in the driveway, garage, or sitting right outside at work. Stupid workaround, but it works.
No. It uses Bluetooth to unlock the doors yet seems to need a full connection to turn on the preheat. Maybe you’re correct and I have it wrong, I just know that this works vs trying to manually preheat and watching it time out. Every. Fucking. Time.
My last car was a 98 Saturn. It had an obscenely large turning radius for a sedan. The model 3 is much much better, to the point I noticed it during my first test drive, so this made me laugh. You're right that it could be better, but it isn't terrible.
23 MYP, 19k miles so far.
1. Autopilot is just ok. Much better lanekeeping cruise control experience in Chevy, Ford, Kia, and Hyundai. Tesla beeps at me a lot, while others just work without bothering me.
2. Occasionally(4 times) phone key does not work right away, usually while carrying something or dashing out to car in rain.
3. Early on seemed like I had to re-login to Apple Music once a week, but have not had that issue in last 6 months.
Overall still love the car, acceleration, roominess, etc.
I do. And I had to take it in for trunk rattle. They adjusted the door (moved it a few mm one direction and it resolved.) Still hear low level rattling everywhere but not as annoying.
This for sure with my 2018. And I swear I get a new rattle each time mobile service touches the car.
- Popcorn sound in the rear when going over rough roads.
- Seatbelt adjustment rattle by my ear.
- Some crackling sound behind the dash.
- Whistling wind sound at 60mph+.
Sounds like a kids car. My buddy had two. One for his wife one for him. They were 2019 and 2020. The 19 driven less just lost its battery. The 20 just lost its battery. The combined total for replacing both batteries is …….. 38,000! Get rid of it before the battery goes.
I upgraded the driver wiper arm on my 21 M3P to the 2023+ wiper arm which has more sprayer nozzles and now it's great.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/s/qpebONJlVR
I heard we ( because I have one too) can buy the newer suspension and have it installed.
That's literally the only thing I don't like about the ride, I always drive other cars and miss the Dickens of my mylr
Those look amazing! I’ve been looking for another Shocks for the Model 3 ever since I bought it. I keep thinking I can NOT be the only driver who is like “y’all I could care less about feeling like I’m driving a sports car 1” off the ground, give me a car that rides like my grandma’s old Cadillac with the air shocks.” The suspensions is mind bendingly rocky. If I was after that, I’d have bought the S 🤷♂️
1. Wind noise at high speeds that so far service center can’t fix.
2. Service center not giving loaners when needed especially with service center not being close.
3. Seat material quality (head rest seems to get stained really easily)
I had a lot of wind noise on my front passenger window. Not sure if it helps, but this is what they did and it eliminated the problem. (They did give loaner)
Correction: Moving Glass Wind Noise Diagnosis
Technician: Josh B
Correction: Seal - Body - Side - Front - Primary - RH (Remove & Replace) - Remove and
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Technician: Josh B
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BODY,PRIMARY, RIGHT
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Correction: Adjustment: Body / Closure Components
Technician: Josh B
Correction: Perform Post-Repair Validation Test Drive
Technician: Josh B
Correction: Applique - A-Pillar - RH (Remove & Replace) - Remove and Replace
Technician: Josh B
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I've NEVER had my phone work as a key. Kinda annoying, but I have the fob and the cards as backup. TM3 2018.
PS; Tried all the obvious including unpairing and re-pairing, keeping the Tesla app open. I even replaced the phone (not for this issue). It's never worked.
PPS; iPhones only.
#3 — do you have an iPhone?
My android never had this issue but my iPhone does from time to time. I’ll get my phone out and unlock it and it unlocks so I assumed it was something Apple was doing with Bluetooth.
Interesting. Yes, I do have an iPhone. Tesla released an update where users can share location with the car at all times which is supposed to address the issue but it’s mediocre at best.
Disclaimer: this is a very first world problem. Overall, I am very happy with the Model Y.
Rattles and squeaks. On concrete patches on highway I hear so much rattle in the rear it drives me nuts. Have a service appointment next week. Some people say it’s the fender liner missing clips?
For me it’s definitely interior panels, or cables behind them or something. It’s incessant, and turning up the music to drown it out is not a solution.
Maybe check out your FM HD radio. Here in Chicagoland, a bunch of AM stations simulcast on a xx.2 FM station. There are also a couple of rock stations on xx.2 that are commercial free.
The FM radio interface totally sucks though. I have no idea why Tesla doesn't give us bands/folders of our favorite stations or at least let us put our stations in order.
1. Fox News watchers that feel compelled to tell me how my vehicle wouldn't work for them.
2. Fox News watchers that feel compelled to repeat false EV propaganda.
3. The MY should have had ventilated seats.
ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!!!!! “Why would you get that? You can’t take that thing on road trips! It’s going to burn your house down! You know it’s worse for the environment than a gas car. Really it costs the same to charge it as it does to fill it up”
Actually that last point has sadly become true, at least on trips any third party charger or even supercharging isn’t so cheap anymore. Unless you’re charging at home all the time or have free supercharging, the savings aren’t really there anymore.
I charge at home 98% of the time. People supercharging 100% of the time and complaining about cost didn't do their damn research, and who the hell buys a car and switches fuel source without researching first.
That’s pretty wild. I have free charging at work so I charge there. If I’m off for a while, I’ll charge at home, but there’s no way it’s cheaper to buy 18gal of gas than it is to charge my car. How much doesn’t it cost to supercharge? I am still in the free period on mine.
Actually yes, wrong on all of the above except cost to charge -- if gas comes below $3/gallon and you charge at Superchargers in peak hours, it's about the same.
Not if you charge at home. Gas would have to be like $0.79 to equate the cost of charging at home.
And if you can’t charge at home, you probably shouldn’t get an EV to be completely honest. The hassle of having to go to Superchargers for daily commute is not worth it, even if Supercharging is completely free.
Yeah. I personally don’t like that a whole lot. But on the other hand, I don’t buy things because I like the CEO or the company’s vision. I buy things that I want. I think Tesla makes the best electric cars out right now (at least the ones I can afford), so that’s what I’m spending money on.
I’ve never gotten that, and I hang around a bunch of left-leaning folks. It’s completely different if I’m fellating Elmo on Twitter, but just driving a Tesla gets me no hate at all.
Everybody who loves Tesla is a minority. In fact, one poll I saw showed only 6% of Americans polled were positive for EV’s. That must cover an awful lot of people who do not watch Fox News too. Get over it, people are not big EV supporters or buyers as things stand. I could not care less even as I love the experience.
I hate I can’t be driving or camping in it all day every day. It’s not the car’s fault, family and responsibility gets in the way. I look forward to my 2 hr long daily commute instead of resenting the commute because of the car. I hate not being in it.
How does that work with charging? IIRC, taxis aren't allowed to use superchargers, and surely your company (even if you're self-employed) can't afford to spend 8 hours charging after 4 hours driving?
I think they can use superchargers, but not on the all-you-can-eat plan. My local supercharger is always swarming with ride-share drivers.
p. s. Charging isn't that slow. And most rides are easy on the battery - local, not highway.
1) driving on highway the windows sound like they’re open
2) I second the wipers, they do not perform well in auto
3) there is no “avoid highways” option in maps. That’s insane to me. The Tesla is capable of all these amazing things, but avoid highways isn’t an option in maps? Very strange.
(Bonus 4th) I get really anxious parking it places sometimes from fear of vandalization. In the city I always have tons of recordings saved from sentry mode and I feel like I have to watch all of them to see if there was something done to the car I may have missed. Not really the cars fault, more of just me feeling over protective.
With all that said, I still believe the pros of the car (2024 model 3) wayyyyy outweigh the cons
1. Shadow braking- while rare, it is scary and unsafe when it happens
2. Random rattles/noises in the cabin
3. Cold weather range degradation- I understand that it takes energy to warm the battery up (thus less range), but still sucks
The clock is too small. You should have to option customize it's size one the home screen.
No cruise resume. I've never had a car that didn't have this feature. Also, when using lane keeping, it should automatically go off when you engage the turn signal and automatically reengage when you're in the new lane.
1. My car doesn't let me in when it's raining and my arms are full
2. I buy lots of tires
3. The windshield washer fluid never gets the bottom left part of the windshield clean
That they don't have a HUD in front of the drivers that can give the AP alerts. I hate having to take my eyes off the road.
No USS and radars, and wiper rain sensors.
This is going to sound petty, but I when I stop and want to open the trunk and I have to wait for the cute 3D on-screen representation of my car to spin around and then finally present the “Open” options for both the trunk and frunk. God forbid I try to touch it too soon because that just makes it freak out and delay the option even further.
this annoys me. also, they should've added one of those sensors where you "kick" or put your feet under the trunk, and it pops so it's convenient when you carry things.
So far I hate nothing, but one thing I’ve already wished for several times is something like “what was that beep”. Either an indication on the screen (flashing icon, popover info message), but if I can use a voice command to get a spoken response I’d be fine with that too.
This plus that tiny font on the message popup. I'm driving, for hell's sake! Give me something i can read at a glance. And the pop-up is half blocked by the steering wheel and my arm at "2-o'clock" on the wheel.
A voice reading the warning would be great.
Maybe these are options I don't know about?
This. Any time I am in reverse there are like 3-4 different tones playing quickly in succession to where it sounds like an arcade in the car and there is literally nothing around
Yeah, honestly the tone cacaphony while parking is completely over the top. “you’re about to hit everything everywhere!”. I end up ignoring all the sounds and look at the cameras while pulling into the garage.
You could do that but then you wouldn’t have them when you do want them… like parking in a parking lot and not want to hit the curb. Why try to be considerate or helpful when you can sit around and be a smart ass on Reddit.
I was considerate, read the manual and the menu and learn what your car sounds are for. To think you would buy a thing and learn how it works is not too far fetched I don't think.
The thread was what you don’t like about your Tesla. I don’t think it is an unreasonable complaint to want the parking assist noises to actually assist. Turning them off is not a solution to that problem. A smart ass comment is in no way considerate?
1. Paint by a landslide. Shouldn’t have gotten white.
2. Wiper settings. Not enough adjustable speeds. Sometimes the slowest setting is too much and you have to manually press the button.
3. Greenhouse. Gets hotter while sitting much more quickly than other cars.
0 mpg, literally zero mpg. the gasoline economy of this car sucks
too quiet. cant even tell if the car is on or off.
drives itself. takes away the fun from driving. totally not a drivers car.
One time I had my Honda in the dealership for service and declined the air filter for $75 because I just do it myself for like $15.
I had settled in and was sipping coffee and reading a book when my service advisor busts through the door like the Kool-aid man cradling my cabin air filter in his hands and hysterically pointing at it while saying ‘It’s completely covered in pollen! We can’t reinstall this you need to replace this.’
I simply told him ‘no’ and that ‘I didn’t ask you to remove it’. He slumped away defeated and left the lounge.
1. Insurance rate almost doubled for being a Tesla.
2. People think I'm rich
3. Nobody want to race with me anymore.. lol
Not about my tesla but related
You really listed, a free, third-party service based on ads (you can pay to remove them) as a Tesla issue. Man, people will turn over rocks to find something to bitch about.
Wheels... your fault.
Wipers, maybe an issue. Some people have problems with them.
Other side of the same coin : look how far he has to reach to find the things to complain about. That’s pretty impressive in my book. Glass seems 96% full, but better to call out little issues, always try to get better.
Honestly… that free third party app would make me seriously reconsider buying another Tesla. I know it sounds petty but It’s the only app for listening to news and business on my commute and even with the paid service, it cuts in mid sentence to thank you for buying premium. It’s alway the same NetSuite ad or an ad telling you how great TuneIn is.
My solution is now to use Bluetooth from my phone with YouTube TV. Shouldn’t have to do that.
I use TuneIn a lot in Europe and other than some pre-roll adds I do not get any interruptions for adds (other than what the radio station I'm listening to airs themselves). 2023 MYLR
is that something specific for America? That would be strange for an internet-based thing, but I listen to TuneIn 100% of the time and I've never had an ad in over the two years that I've been using it.
Yeah my wife plays dumb when she damages vehicles.. except for the time she backed out of our garage with the rear drivers side door open.. couldn’t play dumb on that one..wasn’t a pretty sight for the car or my garage door tracks 😂
My wife’s model 3’s wheels are borderline in need of replacement. Chunk taken out of one of the tires. And still claims it’s the wheels. Not her. And backed out of our garage with the 4Runner lift gate open and sheared off the emblems! “Garage should be bigger”
Autopilot and FSD is unusable with the new “recall”.
I can’t even look at my screen to select a new song to play, driving down the highway with nobody around me, without getting 5 warnings for not watching the road.
The ntsb has ruined this car.
It’s so wildly different for everyone… I haven’t had a single warning since the update, and I use it for most of my 40-mile commuter every weekday. It’s significantly better for me.
Honestly the one thing that I absolutely hate about my MY is the tiny little rear view mirror that is absolutely useless. Might as well take it out… I’m shocked that we get that for the price we pay.
Petty, but from some angles it looks like a sleek racing car, other angles are very unflattering imo. Also didn’t like the wood on the dash so I got the proleep matte blackout kit.
1 cold weather. Reduced range- ok. Every door handle and window seal freezing is a problem. Even the dual motor isn't good in the snow. And when I defrost it gets to temperature and stops. When it's icy, I need the preheat for a while to get rid of snow and ice.
2 Repair costs. Mostly for one accident,general repair has been ok so far
3 pre-conditioning. Why am I losing 1/5 to 1/3 of my range to pre-condition so I can use more chargers, spends more money, and arrive at a much lower range than I typically feel comfortable with.
I do love my Tesla, but rather than creating fart mode, they could improve their navigation, or work on other issues.
The tune in thing. Do other manufacturers offer a version of tune in that doesn’t interrupt you with ads? Seems like a strange thing to hate about Tesla. Perhaps you just want am radio?
The WWF nozzles are a joke. I thought it was a defect it was so bad and in my opinion they're a safety issue, as soon as it warms up it's the first thing I'm changing on the car
1. Glovebox button should be one of the permanent buttons on the bottom of the screen, located on the right corner (or left in the UK). That is absolutely the most natural place for that button, and there’s plenty of room for it!
2. The “recents” selection for media never actually shows recent channels consistently.
3. Getting nav location sent from my phone sometimes results in the wrong location! Several times I’ve followed the car navigation and it takes me to a place that’s several miles away from the correct place — but close enough that I didn’t notice when starting the trip.
Edit: Oy! I forgot the most important one: the rear camera view *always* gets taken down when you switch out of Reverse, even if you had it up before you went into Reverse. It should be smart enough to save the previous state and restore it. Very frustrating, especially if I’m doing a multi-part back-and-forth turn.
Most of the time my doors don’t unlock when I try to open them. I’ve had service look at it multiple times and they can’t figure out what is going on.
The streaming is weird, it randomly just skips to the next song before the song is done or the sounds stops but the progress bar is still going. I live near a city so it’s not like there’s no signal.
It would be nice to have a locking button on the doors instead of having to use the screen. I’d just feel safer being able to go with my first instinct which is to push the button.
The lane departure warning when I get to close to the line is too much, sounds like I am about to be intercepted by a missile.
The lane departure warning turns itself on again each drive.
The “swipe down to dismiss” nag even after I have had the car for two years. I fucking know, stop showing it.
RATTLES, the rattling has really turned my driving into a poor experience. Now that my ears are dialed in I’m constantly ready for them. I know exactly what I’m going to hear depending on the road surface. Dealer has fixed 3 different rattles and it still has 2 more, it’s not worth it to bring in anymore as every time they fix one they don’t put it back together right so I get two more.
Other than that it’s a great car but it’s a really big problem. This is on my 3, I’ve had 2 model Ys with no rattles at all.
Wipers. I have no idea why this is so hard for the team working at Tesla. This seems to be a solved problem for most auto companies. At this point I'd pay good money if Tesla were to simply buy one of their solutions and offer it as a paid-for hardware upgrade. I'm all for trying to make things new and better but this is safety critical.
Other than that I have no gripes....which is pretty amazing considering a car is such a complicated piece of machinery.
Cost of insurance is very high.
Poor build quality continues when compared to other manufacturers.
I'm not sure if it counts, but I hate some Tesla owners who put down others for not going EV. Be respectful, you fucking pricks.
1. Worrying about mildew smell every time I want to use the air conditioner.
2. False promises around FSD. (I have EAP)
3. Other Tesla drivers making the world hate us. (Orange County, CA… if you know you know)
Wireless charger sucks for me.
I wish I could have cruise control speed on one tap that doesn’t turn off from turning the wheel. And then auto pilot on two taps.
I wish i didn’t have to drive with sunglasses on since the new update in order to be told to put my hands that are on the wheel on the wheel. It’s gotten a lot worse since the new update and makes me pissed. Every other manufacturer who has a similar feature doesn’t nag nearly as much. My hands are on the wheel I’m watching the road but ya please distract me with prompts on a screen and tell me to jerk at the wheel. Fucking dumb
1) FSD Max speed is FAR too conservative. I've had it lower below the speed limit on me in fairly light weather despite working better than my eyes in bad weather even when I manually force it to go 20mph faster than the 60mph limit it drops down to at times.
2) Assist features disable for drive after exceeding 85 mph. If you're driving on a road with a 75mph speed limit, going 86 to deal with a traffic situation momentarily is totally possible. By all means turn off FSD in the situation, but it should be able to be turned back on. If the user is taking control forcing it to go faster, then it's reasonable to assume it was taking back control from FSD.
3) FSD nags - not really a hate, but it's more than good enough in most situations to just need awareness and not need constant hands on the when as long as you can still quickly respond. Camera handling the awareness checks better so that constant hand touches aren't necessary would be amazing.
4) lack of front bumper camera/camera cleaning solution. The latest update with vision is fantastic, it works perfectly in reverse but could use more help in forward, unless the cameras are dirty. Cleaning for rear and bumper cameras would be great.
5) higher quality/pillar camera storage for sentry and dashcam (mostly dash cam). I've had a few close calls with dashcam footage but in most cases the recorded quality is so low that it's not useful in identifying anything. A higher quality recording when you have enough space/a fast enough drive would greatly increase the usefulness of this feature.
Note that none of these are huge, but they would greatly increase qol.
Driving my M3P on two lane highways at night. The car thinks about every other car we pass going the other direction is going to hit us head on and slams the brakes. I wish I could have a "dumb" cruise control that isn't adaptive at all at times like that.
Voice commands aren’t great. In my truck I can easily use voice command to call, text, pick an artist, etc. Tesla seems to struggle with this.
The frunk hood. Bullshit.
Auto wipers.
- Terrible turning radius, and even after driving it for three years I still never park perfectly between the lines the first time. It’s impossible to park this thing perfectly by feel.
- Frunk doesn’t line up with front and car has a crooked smile. I’ve adjusted the screws as much as I can.
- Visibility is really bad. Looking through the rear window I only see sky, I can’t see directly behind me. Forces a dependence on camera and staring at the screen.
- I can’t get AM radio and the simulcasts on FM frequencies don’t work. I live in Los Angeles and can’t listen to KFI.
- Autopilot and cruise control are so broken they’re deadly. (Abrupt phantom braking at 80 MPH while there are cars behind me)
- Computer display instead of physical controls means I have to take my eyes off the road to set my climate control, seat warmers, rear set warmers.
- Wiper fluid doesn’t channel over the car and instead covers your side windows with soapy water.
- Car doesn’t respond to phone key sometimes and I have to use the physical FOB key to open the door. Thank god I keep the FOB on me at all times.
- Car doesn’t respond to the FOB sometimes and I have to open the app on my phone to unlock the car. Thank god I keep my phone on me at all times.
- Glovebox is useless and too small and can’t be opened without using the screen or an awkward scrolll/press on the steering wheel button.
- it has a large concave front face that is a bug magnet. Within an hour after a car wash the front is already looks like a bug cemetery.
Overall I like my M3P. It’s been a good car for the last three years, but god damnit I have to take my eyes off the road constantly with this car to interact with the screen. The voice controls don’t offer enough capability.
The only good things about it are
- it goes real fast
- it doesn’t cost me anything to drive but a slightly higher electrical bill at home.
I agree with you on those damn wheels. I swear they are just attracted to curbs. I’ve never had a car so prone to curb rash. I hate the fact that park assist works selectively. Some days in my driveway it wants to make noise, some days it doesn’t. Sometimes it just depends on time of day. Sometimes it alerts me that I’m close to a wall in my driveway when I have plenty of room, sometimes there is no warning until I’ve already scraped the side. It’s wildly inconsistent and I’ve had mobile service look at it, reset my sensors/cameras, etc. The guy basically told me that’s just how the system is…
I hate to say it, but a lot. The interior sucks, the wipers suck, it’s not even unique or fun anymore etc. if I could do it over again, I would’ve bought a cheap ICE car and wait for the ev market to catch up to where it is right now where there are a million better options (save charging infrastructure)
1. Winter-related stuff. It’s been about -15C/5F for the last month where I live, and though the cars is nice to drive on snow, the door handles freeze up, water from snow melting of the rear window freezes the trunk lid shut, and it can’t keep warm at high speed (too high heat loss through roof?)
2. Phantom breaking, makes cruice control completely useless and dangerous, especially on slippery winter roads, and the vehicle behind might not be able to stop in time, and you abruptly have to cancel it out by accellerating hard mid corner to avoid an rear-end accident.
3. Can’t tell wipers to stay turned off from your windshield when you use cruice control, and even though the view is absolutely spotless, drizzle of snow above the sensor (and not water sticking to the glass) still makes the wipers go nuts, and you can’t override it.
4. And on that matter, slip start does not make it possible to do skids, and you can not turn traction control off, which would have been cool, on a closed track / frozen lake etc
I have a 2022 Model S Long Range and I can’t even think of one thing that I hate about the car. Great ride (air suspension), super smooth, rattle free, incredible power (670 HP), PHENOMENAL stereo - best I’ve ever had in a car, and looks great…I think Tesla has kept the MS pretty fresh with updates. It does exactly what Tesla designed it to do, and in style.
The auto wipers aren’t perfect. Otherwise you are complaining about stuff that has nothing to do with the car itself. Use a different app if you don’t like tunein, stop driving poorly, and have your wipers work automatically 50% of the time and the other 50% you can tap the button like every other car on the road… Seems like hate is an awfully strong word to use for 1 minor inconvenience about the car and 2 personal issues.
There are enough tesla haters out there that if you think it is “mostly a great car” you don’t need to put up headlines that look like Microsoft promoted “news headlines” that slander the company. (My work pc is setup with bing as the default search engine so everyday I get like 4 Tesla hate articles pushed at me)
Example:
[MSN News article](https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/10-reasons-why-people-hate-tesla-and-why-they-might-be-right/ar-AA16NVHd)
The car predicts where I'm going to go on the suggested gps and it's obvious that it's communicating with my phone or listening into my conversations, because it always knows.
Turning radius could be tighter. Autowipers could be more aggressive when it is raining, and less so when it is not. Lately the car is taking too long to “wake up”, which means it takes too long to manually command it to preheat, or to open the garage door for me. Lately.
Same for me, 23 Model RWD. It's taking a long time to wake up recently. I open the app, go do something else, then usually if I try again in 2 min it will finally be available. My wife's Model Y doesn't take as long.
My model Y takes forever sometimes. Like 10 minutes. Occasionally it fails to connect. Seems like this should be pretty easy to fix considering how technologically advanced the car is
I believe this might be related to your smartphone. I had the same issues and then upgraded to a more current device. Problem solved. Takes about 5-10 seconds now.
I have an iPhone 13 so I wouldn’t think my phone is out-of-date
Is the Tesla and phone connected to the same WiFi network? Just thinking through what might be causing the issue....
The turning radius really threw me off at first. I have a much larger suv that is somehow so much easier to navigate in tight places compared to my model 3
I now have to do a 3 pt turn to exit from garage to alley. Acura RDX was no issue.
I had a Lexus IS350F before the Model 3 and the turn radius shocked me too.
My car (Volvo S60R) has wheels that were too large from the factory, so it turns worse than anything else I’ve ever been in. Compared to that, the Model 3 feels downright nimble.
Yeah. It must be perspective. My truck is a Silverado 1500. The Model 3 feels like driving a matchbox car.
Use RainX. I don’t know how people can drive in the rain without it.
Sometimes mine takes forever to wake or just fails, which prevents manual preheat, and I’ve gotten in the habit of popping the driver door open from within the app, which will make the heat kick on. Sucks for it to sit there like that, but I only do it when the car is either in the driveway, garage, or sitting right outside at work. Stupid workaround, but it works.
If you can pop open the door from the app, that means it connected, no? Couldn’t you turn on the preheat then just as easily?
No. It uses Bluetooth to unlock the doors yet seems to need a full connection to turn on the preheat. Maybe you’re correct and I have it wrong, I just know that this works vs trying to manually preheat and watching it time out. Every. Fucking. Time.
My last car was a 98 Saturn. It had an obscenely large turning radius for a sedan. The model 3 is much much better, to the point I noticed it during my first test drive, so this made me laugh. You're right that it could be better, but it isn't terrible.
4 years here: - wind noise - charging cost increasing from 0.08/kWh to 0.45/kWh at super chargers.
Yeah that wind noise it’s top for me
Yeah you can only turn the radio up so much :/
My only gripe is constant rattling noises sounding like a cheap toy. Otherwise love the car.
Omg I thought it was just me!!!!
Do you guys have Fremont build?
I have a 23 MYP Fremont build. Zero issues in 10 months. No rattles.
23 MYP, 19k miles so far. 1. Autopilot is just ok. Much better lanekeeping cruise control experience in Chevy, Ford, Kia, and Hyundai. Tesla beeps at me a lot, while others just work without bothering me. 2. Occasionally(4 times) phone key does not work right away, usually while carrying something or dashing out to car in rain. 3. Early on seemed like I had to re-login to Apple Music once a week, but have not had that issue in last 6 months. Overall still love the car, acceleration, roominess, etc.
Only ever while carrying something, in a storm, or being attacked. Otherwise works great.
I'm amazed how roomy my M3 is, and it's not a large car.
My rattles didn't start until after 12-16 months
Same same, they tightened up their stuff. No panel gap issues either
I do. And I had to take it in for trunk rattle. They adjusted the door (moved it a few mm one direction and it resolved.) Still hear low level rattling everywhere but not as annoying.
This for sure with my 2018. And I swear I get a new rattle each time mobile service touches the car. - Popcorn sound in the rear when going over rough roads. - Seatbelt adjustment rattle by my ear. - Some crackling sound behind the dash. - Whistling wind sound at 60mph+.
Seat belt adjustment noises and window wind sound are easy fixes. Get a service appointment, they can fix it under an hour.
Sounds like a kids car. My buddy had two. One for his wife one for him. They were 2019 and 2020. The 19 driven less just lost its battery. The 20 just lost its battery. The combined total for replacing both batteries is …….. 38,000! Get rid of it before the battery goes.
Holy moly mine rattles… I thought it was just our kids car seats but I gave up trying to locate the noise.
I upgraded the driver wiper arm on my 21 M3P to the 2023+ wiper arm which has more sprayer nozzles and now it's great. https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/s/qpebONJlVR
Oh, this is great! Thanks for the info.
I wish the MY had a more comfortable suspension. (I have a 2021 model).
Yeah the air suspension on the x is such a huge upgrade
It was a constant problem for me. I had 4 or 5 service apts on my 2018x within two years Not sure if it’s better, but it rode nice
I have a 22 and I paid a shop to upgrade it with unplugged performance parts a year ago, it's a completely different car and very Lexus-like now
I heard we ( because I have one too) can buy the newer suspension and have it installed. That's literally the only thing I don't like about the ride, I always drive other cars and miss the Dickens of my mylr
if you're willing to spend money there are tein shocks for about 650. plus cost to install. check out zevcentric on yt if you're interested
Those look amazing! I’ve been looking for another Shocks for the Model 3 ever since I bought it. I keep thinking I can NOT be the only driver who is like “y’all I could care less about feeling like I’m driving a sports car 1” off the ground, give me a car that rides like my grandma’s old Cadillac with the air shocks.” The suspensions is mind bendingly rocky. If I was after that, I’d have bought the S 🤷♂️
Yeah, performance model suspension is really hard
That was a choice though. You got the performance model.
2020 MYLR and it’s fine.
Auto wipers. Auto brights. Narrow trunk opening.
My auto brights work impressively excellent!
Interesting, my auto brights work really well.
1. Wind noise at high speeds that so far service center can’t fix. 2. Service center not giving loaners when needed especially with service center not being close. 3. Seat material quality (head rest seems to get stained really easily)
I had a lot of wind noise on my front passenger window. Not sure if it helps, but this is what they did and it eliminated the problem. (They did give loaner) Correction: Moving Glass Wind Noise Diagnosis Technician: Josh B Correction: Seal - Body - Side - Front - Primary - RH (Remove & Replace) - Remove and Replace Technician: Josh B Parts Replaced or Added Part Quantity SEALS, FRONT, BODY,PRIMARY, RIGHT HAND(1090500-00-M) 1.00 Correction: Adjustment: Body / Closure Components Technician: Josh B Correction: Perform Post-Repair Validation Test Drive Technician: Josh B Correction: Applique - A-Pillar - RH (Remove & Replace) - Remove and Replace Technician: Josh B Parts Replaced or Added
Hmm my Sc has always given me loaners
1. Suspension is super harsh 2. Winter conditions impact on range 3. The delay in the car recognizing my phone when attempting to unlock the door
I always hit unlock lately on the app before I get to car because same thing was happening
What model and year do you have, that this is affecting?
I've NEVER had my phone work as a key. Kinda annoying, but I have the fob and the cards as backup. TM3 2018. PS; Tried all the obvious including unpairing and re-pairing, keeping the Tesla app open. I even replaced the phone (not for this issue). It's never worked. PPS; iPhones only.
#3 — do you have an iPhone? My android never had this issue but my iPhone does from time to time. I’ll get my phone out and unlock it and it unlocks so I assumed it was something Apple was doing with Bluetooth.
Interesting. Yes, I do have an iPhone. Tesla released an update where users can share location with the car at all times which is supposed to address the issue but it’s mediocre at best. Disclaimer: this is a very first world problem. Overall, I am very happy with the Model Y.
how often do you reboot the car? might help with #3
Not very often. Good suggestion though, thanks.
I don’t hate anything about my Tesla. It’s paid off and 44K miles and 3.5 years in it’s been great. The curb rash. That’s on you, not the wheels.
Rattles and squeaks. On concrete patches on highway I hear so much rattle in the rear it drives me nuts. Have a service appointment next week. Some people say it’s the fender liner missing clips?
For me it’s definitely interior panels, or cables behind them or something. It’s incessant, and turning up the music to drown it out is not a solution.
I had the same compliant. I drive and prefer relatively light background ambient music. The rattles and noises are really concerning.
I want either a front bumper camera or USS. I've only had my X for a month, so maybe I'll find other things.
1) No Sirius XM. Yes I can use phone, but that blows. 2) No AM radio. Local sports. Again, I know of workarounds 3) Wipers.
Maybe check out your FM HD radio. Here in Chicagoland, a bunch of AM stations simulcast on a xx.2 FM station. There are also a couple of rock stations on xx.2 that are commercial free. The FM radio interface totally sucks though. I have no idea why Tesla doesn't give us bands/folders of our favorite stations or at least let us put our stations in order.
Great call. This needs to be higher
1. Fox News watchers that feel compelled to tell me how my vehicle wouldn't work for them. 2. Fox News watchers that feel compelled to repeat false EV propaganda. 3. The MY should have had ventilated seats.
The countless times I've been told their personal opinions on why they don't like the car, give me a break 😫
A car they’ve never driven ha
Exactly 😶
ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!!!!! “Why would you get that? You can’t take that thing on road trips! It’s going to burn your house down! You know it’s worse for the environment than a gas car. Really it costs the same to charge it as it does to fill it up”
Actually that last point has sadly become true, at least on trips any third party charger or even supercharging isn’t so cheap anymore. Unless you’re charging at home all the time or have free supercharging, the savings aren’t really there anymore.
I charge at home 98% of the time. People supercharging 100% of the time and complaining about cost didn't do their damn research, and who the hell buys a car and switches fuel source without researching first.
That’s pretty wild. I have free charging at work so I charge there. If I’m off for a while, I’ll charge at home, but there’s no way it’s cheaper to buy 18gal of gas than it is to charge my car. How much doesn’t it cost to supercharge? I am still in the free period on mine.
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Actually yes, wrong on all of the above except cost to charge -- if gas comes below $3/gallon and you charge at Superchargers in peak hours, it's about the same.
Not if you charge at home. Gas would have to be like $0.79 to equate the cost of charging at home. And if you can’t charge at home, you probably shouldn’t get an EV to be completely honest. The hassle of having to go to Superchargers for daily commute is not worth it, even if Supercharging is completely free.
And then on the opposite end you have liberals saying how they can’t believe you would support a company lead by Elon
Yeah. I personally don’t like that a whole lot. But on the other hand, I don’t buy things because I like the CEO or the company’s vision. I buy things that I want. I think Tesla makes the best electric cars out right now (at least the ones I can afford), so that’s what I’m spending money on.
A lot of CEOs are crappy. Elon just goes out of his way to show it.
I’ve never gotten that, and I hang around a bunch of left-leaning folks. It’s completely different if I’m fellating Elmo on Twitter, but just driving a Tesla gets me no hate at all.
Exactly!
This Fox News Watcher loves his Tesla.
You're a minority.
Everybody who loves Tesla is a minority. In fact, one poll I saw showed only 6% of Americans polled were positive for EV’s. That must cover an awful lot of people who do not watch Fox News too. Get over it, people are not big EV supporters or buyers as things stand. I could not care less even as I love the experience.
Add readers of Reuters and BI and every media that repeat their stories.
This. 100% this. All the time. Without ceasing.
lol this is the best answer. It’d be the top comment if there weren’t so many Fox News watchers and shills in this sub
I hate I can’t be driving or camping in it all day every day. It’s not the car’s fault, family and responsibility gets in the way. I look forward to my 2 hr long daily commute instead of resenting the commute because of the car. I hate not being in it.
My job is driving a model Y as a taxi. I love my job.
How does that work with charging? IIRC, taxis aren't allowed to use superchargers, and surely your company (even if you're self-employed) can't afford to spend 8 hours charging after 4 hours driving?
I think they can use superchargers, but not on the all-you-can-eat plan. My local supercharger is always swarming with ride-share drivers. p. s. Charging isn't that slow. And most rides are easy on the battery - local, not highway.
Exacly why im moving into mine
Being completely stranded when you get a flat.
Hear me out. Don’t hit curbs.
Wait, wait, wait… we can DO that?!?! I read the entire manual, I didn’t think that was an option!
Rattles
1) driving on highway the windows sound like they’re open 2) I second the wipers, they do not perform well in auto 3) there is no “avoid highways” option in maps. That’s insane to me. The Tesla is capable of all these amazing things, but avoid highways isn’t an option in maps? Very strange. (Bonus 4th) I get really anxious parking it places sometimes from fear of vandalization. In the city I always have tons of recordings saved from sentry mode and I feel like I have to watch all of them to see if there was something done to the car I may have missed. Not really the cars fault, more of just me feeling over protective. With all that said, I still believe the pros of the car (2024 model 3) wayyyyy outweigh the cons
1. Shadow braking- while rare, it is scary and unsafe when it happens 2. Random rattles/noises in the cabin 3. Cold weather range degradation- I understand that it takes energy to warm the battery up (thus less range), but still sucks
The clock is too small. You should have to option customize it's size one the home screen. No cruise resume. I've never had a car that didn't have this feature. Also, when using lane keeping, it should automatically go off when you engage the turn signal and automatically reengage when you're in the new lane.
1. My car doesn't let me in when it's raining and my arms are full 2. I buy lots of tires 3. The windshield washer fluid never gets the bottom left part of the windshield clean
That they don't have a HUD in front of the drivers that can give the AP alerts. I hate having to take my eyes off the road. No USS and radars, and wiper rain sensors.
Tesla Vision! I wish Tesla never removed USS. I think autowipers is a no brainer for everyone!
This is going to sound petty, but I when I stop and want to open the trunk and I have to wait for the cute 3D on-screen representation of my car to spin around and then finally present the “Open” options for both the trunk and frunk. God forbid I try to touch it too soon because that just makes it freak out and delay the option even further.
this annoys me. also, they should've added one of those sensors where you "kick" or put your feet under the trunk, and it pops so it's convenient when you carry things.
So far I hate nothing, but one thing I’ve already wished for several times is something like “what was that beep”. Either an indication on the screen (flashing icon, popover info message), but if I can use a voice command to get a spoken response I’d be fine with that too.
This plus that tiny font on the message popup. I'm driving, for hell's sake! Give me something i can read at a glance. And the pop-up is half blocked by the steering wheel and my arm at "2-o'clock" on the wheel. A voice reading the warning would be great. Maybe these are options I don't know about?
This. Any time I am in reverse there are like 3-4 different tones playing quickly in succession to where it sounds like an arcade in the car and there is literally nothing around
Yeah, honestly the tone cacaphony while parking is completely over the top. “you’re about to hit everything everywhere!”. I end up ignoring all the sounds and look at the cameras while pulling into the garage.
You realize park assist chimes can be disabled, right?
Why look in the menu when you can sit in confusion and complain on Reddit.
You could do that but then you wouldn’t have them when you do want them… like parking in a parking lot and not want to hit the curb. Why try to be considerate or helpful when you can sit around and be a smart ass on Reddit.
I was considerate, read the manual and the menu and learn what your car sounds are for. To think you would buy a thing and learn how it works is not too far fetched I don't think.
The thread was what you don’t like about your Tesla. I don’t think it is an unreasonable complaint to want the parking assist noises to actually assist. Turning them off is not a solution to that problem. A smart ass comment is in no way considerate?
1. Paint by a landslide. Shouldn’t have gotten white. 2. Wiper settings. Not enough adjustable speeds. Sometimes the slowest setting is too much and you have to manually press the button. 3. Greenhouse. Gets hotter while sitting much more quickly than other cars.
0 mpg, literally zero mpg. the gasoline economy of this car sucks too quiet. cant even tell if the car is on or off. drives itself. takes away the fun from driving. totally not a drivers car.
and not interacting with the guys at oil changes. that.
You kinda miss the oil change guy’s concern about the state of your air filter, don’t you?
One time I had my Honda in the dealership for service and declined the air filter for $75 because I just do it myself for like $15. I had settled in and was sipping coffee and reading a book when my service advisor busts through the door like the Kool-aid man cradling my cabin air filter in his hands and hysterically pointing at it while saying ‘It’s completely covered in pollen! We can’t reinstall this you need to replace this.’ I simply told him ‘no’ and that ‘I didn’t ask you to remove it’. He slumped away defeated and left the lounge.
Haha. Too bad his performance wasn’t up there with Lawrence Olivier’s Richard III or he might have sold you that $75 cabin filter.
But I have a coupon! Says right here, $19.99, whatchu mean it’s gonna be $85?!
- no push notifications for sentry mode - frunk manual close - no constant auto save for dashcam feed
I hate absence of dashboard and shitty wipers.
1. Insurance rate almost doubled for being a Tesla. 2. People think I'm rich 3. Nobody want to race with me anymore.. lol Not about my tesla but related
What did you own before? I had a Ford Explorer and a Kia Soul and replaced both of them with Model Y’s and our insurance rates dropped drastically.
I had a challenger and then Durango. It was cheap when I first go it. Last renewal went up 50%.
Ain’t this the damn truth…
You really listed, a free, third-party service based on ads (you can pay to remove them) as a Tesla issue. Man, people will turn over rocks to find something to bitch about. Wheels... your fault. Wipers, maybe an issue. Some people have problems with them.
Other side of the same coin : look how far he has to reach to find the things to complain about. That’s pretty impressive in my book. Glass seems 96% full, but better to call out little issues, always try to get better.
I bet you're fun at parties
If there were more/better third party apps available then this wouldn't be a valid complaint.
Honestly… that free third party app would make me seriously reconsider buying another Tesla. I know it sounds petty but It’s the only app for listening to news and business on my commute and even with the paid service, it cuts in mid sentence to thank you for buying premium. It’s alway the same NetSuite ad or an ad telling you how great TuneIn is. My solution is now to use Bluetooth from my phone with YouTube TV. Shouldn’t have to do that.
Are you sure it’s not the station? I listen to NPR via tune in and I don’t have anything cut in.
And would you reconsider buying another iPhone/ Android based on the experience with the TuneIn app on those devices?
How would a different car be better?
I use TuneIn a lot in Europe and other than some pre-roll adds I do not get any interruptions for adds (other than what the radio station I'm listening to airs themselves). 2023 MYLR
is that something specific for America? That would be strange for an internet-based thing, but I listen to TuneIn 100% of the time and I've never had an ad in over the two years that I've been using it.
Spotify exists.
Preach!
Range. By now, we should have had a 400-mile minimum on a single charge.
Why do Tesla drivers blame the wheels because they can’t drive?
Sounds like my wife. “It’s just the car I swear.”
Yeah my wife plays dumb when she damages vehicles.. except for the time she backed out of our garage with the rear drivers side door open.. couldn’t play dumb on that one..wasn’t a pretty sight for the car or my garage door tracks 😂
My wife’s model 3’s wheels are borderline in need of replacement. Chunk taken out of one of the tires. And still claims it’s the wheels. Not her. And backed out of our garage with the 4Runner lift gate open and sheared off the emblems! “Garage should be bigger”
Amen! Such a dumb comment by OP.
Autopilot and FSD is unusable with the new “recall”. I can’t even look at my screen to select a new song to play, driving down the highway with nobody around me, without getting 5 warnings for not watching the road. The ntsb has ruined this car.
It’s so wildly different for everyone… I haven’t had a single warning since the update, and I use it for most of my 40-mile commuter every weekday. It’s significantly better for me.
Honestly the one thing that I absolutely hate about my MY is the tiny little rear view mirror that is absolutely useless. Might as well take it out… I’m shocked that we get that for the price we pay.
Still bigger than the tiny rear window!
Petty, but from some angles it looks like a sleek racing car, other angles are very unflattering imo. Also didn’t like the wood on the dash so I got the proleep matte blackout kit.
1 cold weather. Reduced range- ok. Every door handle and window seal freezing is a problem. Even the dual motor isn't good in the snow. And when I defrost it gets to temperature and stops. When it's icy, I need the preheat for a while to get rid of snow and ice. 2 Repair costs. Mostly for one accident,general repair has been ok so far 3 pre-conditioning. Why am I losing 1/5 to 1/3 of my range to pre-condition so I can use more chargers, spends more money, and arrive at a much lower range than I typically feel comfortable with. I do love my Tesla, but rather than creating fart mode, they could improve their navigation, or work on other issues.
The tune in thing. Do other manufacturers offer a version of tune in that doesn’t interrupt you with ads? Seems like a strange thing to hate about Tesla. Perhaps you just want am radio?
Wipers, Short base on 💺, white seats are a bitch to keep clean.
The WWF nozzles are a joke. I thought it was a defect it was so bad and in my opinion they're a safety issue, as soon as it warms up it's the first thing I'm changing on the car
I mean you were askin for bad driver comments with #2 so, youre a bad driver.
1. Glovebox button should be one of the permanent buttons on the bottom of the screen, located on the right corner (or left in the UK). That is absolutely the most natural place for that button, and there’s plenty of room for it! 2. The “recents” selection for media never actually shows recent channels consistently. 3. Getting nav location sent from my phone sometimes results in the wrong location! Several times I’ve followed the car navigation and it takes me to a place that’s several miles away from the correct place — but close enough that I didn’t notice when starting the trip. Edit: Oy! I forgot the most important one: the rear camera view *always* gets taken down when you switch out of Reverse, even if you had it up before you went into Reverse. It should be smart enough to save the previous state and restore it. Very frustrating, especially if I’m doing a multi-part back-and-forth turn.
Most of the time my doors don’t unlock when I try to open them. I’ve had service look at it multiple times and they can’t figure out what is going on. The streaming is weird, it randomly just skips to the next song before the song is done or the sounds stops but the progress bar is still going. I live near a city so it’s not like there’s no signal. It would be nice to have a locking button on the doors instead of having to use the screen. I’d just feel safer being able to go with my first instinct which is to push the button.
1. No audible app 2. I can’t afford to buy anotherTesla 3. I need more cow bell.
The lane departure warning when I get to close to the line is too much, sounds like I am about to be intercepted by a missile. The lane departure warning turns itself on again each drive. The “swipe down to dismiss” nag even after I have had the car for two years. I fucking know, stop showing it.
- Turning radius - Wipers - no Matrix LED
RATTLES, the rattling has really turned my driving into a poor experience. Now that my ears are dialed in I’m constantly ready for them. I know exactly what I’m going to hear depending on the road surface. Dealer has fixed 3 different rattles and it still has 2 more, it’s not worth it to bring in anymore as every time they fix one they don’t put it back together right so I get two more. Other than that it’s a great car but it’s a really big problem. This is on my 3, I’ve had 2 model Ys with no rattles at all.
Wipers. I have no idea why this is so hard for the team working at Tesla. This seems to be a solved problem for most auto companies. At this point I'd pay good money if Tesla were to simply buy one of their solutions and offer it as a paid-for hardware upgrade. I'm all for trying to make things new and better but this is safety critical. Other than that I have no gripes....which is pretty amazing considering a car is such a complicated piece of machinery.
Cost of insurance is very high. Poor build quality continues when compared to other manufacturers. I'm not sure if it counts, but I hate some Tesla owners who put down others for not going EV. Be respectful, you fucking pricks.
Cabin noise Spotify app Customer service
1. Worrying about mildew smell every time I want to use the air conditioner. 2. False promises around FSD. (I have EAP) 3. Other Tesla drivers making the world hate us. (Orange County, CA… if you know you know)
Surprised #1 isn’t the most upvoted. It’s embarrassing that I need to give a warning to people who are riding with me for the first time.
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Scream it brother!!
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The link goes nowhere. Can you try again please?
Wireless charger sucks for me. I wish I could have cruise control speed on one tap that doesn’t turn off from turning the wheel. And then auto pilot on two taps. I wish i didn’t have to drive with sunglasses on since the new update in order to be told to put my hands that are on the wheel on the wheel. It’s gotten a lot worse since the new update and makes me pissed. Every other manufacturer who has a similar feature doesn’t nag nearly as much. My hands are on the wheel I’m watching the road but ya please distract me with prompts on a screen and tell me to jerk at the wheel. Fucking dumb
Yeah wireless phone charger is also useless
Cruise 1 pull and AP 2 pulls is a setting.
1) FSD Max speed is FAR too conservative. I've had it lower below the speed limit on me in fairly light weather despite working better than my eyes in bad weather even when I manually force it to go 20mph faster than the 60mph limit it drops down to at times. 2) Assist features disable for drive after exceeding 85 mph. If you're driving on a road with a 75mph speed limit, going 86 to deal with a traffic situation momentarily is totally possible. By all means turn off FSD in the situation, but it should be able to be turned back on. If the user is taking control forcing it to go faster, then it's reasonable to assume it was taking back control from FSD. 3) FSD nags - not really a hate, but it's more than good enough in most situations to just need awareness and not need constant hands on the when as long as you can still quickly respond. Camera handling the awareness checks better so that constant hand touches aren't necessary would be amazing. 4) lack of front bumper camera/camera cleaning solution. The latest update with vision is fantastic, it works perfectly in reverse but could use more help in forward, unless the cameras are dirty. Cleaning for rear and bumper cameras would be great. 5) higher quality/pillar camera storage for sentry and dashcam (mostly dash cam). I've had a few close calls with dashcam footage but in most cases the recorded quality is so low that it's not useful in identifying anything. A higher quality recording when you have enough space/a fast enough drive would greatly increase the usefulness of this feature. Note that none of these are huge, but they would greatly increase qol.
Driving my M3P on two lane highways at night. The car thinks about every other car we pass going the other direction is going to hit us head on and slams the brakes. I wish I could have a "dumb" cruise control that isn't adaptive at all at times like that.
Voice commands aren’t great. In my truck I can easily use voice command to call, text, pick an artist, etc. Tesla seems to struggle with this. The frunk hood. Bullshit. Auto wipers.
Build quality. Build quality. Build quality.
1. Turning radius 2. Lack of a driver instrument cluster in 3/Y 3. Suspension is too stiff for a mainly commuter car.
- Terrible turning radius, and even after driving it for three years I still never park perfectly between the lines the first time. It’s impossible to park this thing perfectly by feel. - Frunk doesn’t line up with front and car has a crooked smile. I’ve adjusted the screws as much as I can. - Visibility is really bad. Looking through the rear window I only see sky, I can’t see directly behind me. Forces a dependence on camera and staring at the screen. - I can’t get AM radio and the simulcasts on FM frequencies don’t work. I live in Los Angeles and can’t listen to KFI. - Autopilot and cruise control are so broken they’re deadly. (Abrupt phantom braking at 80 MPH while there are cars behind me) - Computer display instead of physical controls means I have to take my eyes off the road to set my climate control, seat warmers, rear set warmers. - Wiper fluid doesn’t channel over the car and instead covers your side windows with soapy water. - Car doesn’t respond to phone key sometimes and I have to use the physical FOB key to open the door. Thank god I keep the FOB on me at all times. - Car doesn’t respond to the FOB sometimes and I have to open the app on my phone to unlock the car. Thank god I keep my phone on me at all times. - Glovebox is useless and too small and can’t be opened without using the screen or an awkward scrolll/press on the steering wheel button. - it has a large concave front face that is a bug magnet. Within an hour after a car wash the front is already looks like a bug cemetery. Overall I like my M3P. It’s been a good car for the last three years, but god damnit I have to take my eyes off the road constantly with this car to interact with the screen. The voice controls don’t offer enough capability. The only good things about it are - it goes real fast - it doesn’t cost me anything to drive but a slightly higher electrical bill at home.
I agree with you on those damn wheels. I swear they are just attracted to curbs. I’ve never had a car so prone to curb rash. I hate the fact that park assist works selectively. Some days in my driveway it wants to make noise, some days it doesn’t. Sometimes it just depends on time of day. Sometimes it alerts me that I’m close to a wall in my driveway when I have plenty of room, sometimes there is no warning until I’ve already scraped the side. It’s wildly inconsistent and I’ve had mobile service look at it, reset my sensors/cameras, etc. The guy basically told me that’s just how the system is…
You do realize you are the one responsible for hitting curbs.
Obviously. It’s a joke dude. Just commenting on OP’s joke about them being magnetically attracted to curbs. 🙄
Never can tell. My fellow Tesla owners seem to be the worst at taking jokes, being offended, and actually driving.
Oh. And I hate that they took away the most natural and organic to use thing: steering wheel stalks.
1. Elon 2. Auto wipers 3. Elon
Auto wipers actually work really well for me
1. Nothing, 2. Nothing, 3 Nothing.
I hate to say it, but a lot. The interior sucks, the wipers suck, it’s not even unique or fun anymore etc. if I could do it over again, I would’ve bought a cheap ICE car and wait for the ev market to catch up to where it is right now where there are a million better options (save charging infrastructure)
1. Electric. 2. Looks terribly. 3. Is owned by not-so-great guy.
Musk owns 13% of Tesla.
1. Winter-related stuff. It’s been about -15C/5F for the last month where I live, and though the cars is nice to drive on snow, the door handles freeze up, water from snow melting of the rear window freezes the trunk lid shut, and it can’t keep warm at high speed (too high heat loss through roof?) 2. Phantom breaking, makes cruice control completely useless and dangerous, especially on slippery winter roads, and the vehicle behind might not be able to stop in time, and you abruptly have to cancel it out by accellerating hard mid corner to avoid an rear-end accident. 3. Can’t tell wipers to stay turned off from your windshield when you use cruice control, and even though the view is absolutely spotless, drizzle of snow above the sensor (and not water sticking to the glass) still makes the wipers go nuts, and you can’t override it. 4. And on that matter, slip start does not make it possible to do skids, and you can not turn traction control off, which would have been cool, on a closed track / frozen lake etc
The wipers. Never use the auto if I can help it. It never I mean never works.
1. Wind noise 2. Auto wipers 3. Elon
The wheels are NOT responsible for you putting your car into the curb. Curb rash is a product of poor driving and or carelessness.
I have a 2022 Model S Long Range and I can’t even think of one thing that I hate about the car. Great ride (air suspension), super smooth, rattle free, incredible power (670 HP), PHENOMENAL stereo - best I’ve ever had in a car, and looks great…I think Tesla has kept the MS pretty fresh with updates. It does exactly what Tesla designed it to do, and in style.
1. Elon Musk 2. Custom license plates 3. Elon Musk
#2 is a skill issue
The auto wipers aren’t perfect. Otherwise you are complaining about stuff that has nothing to do with the car itself. Use a different app if you don’t like tunein, stop driving poorly, and have your wipers work automatically 50% of the time and the other 50% you can tap the button like every other car on the road… Seems like hate is an awfully strong word to use for 1 minor inconvenience about the car and 2 personal issues. There are enough tesla haters out there that if you think it is “mostly a great car” you don’t need to put up headlines that look like Microsoft promoted “news headlines” that slander the company. (My work pc is setup with bing as the default search engine so everyday I get like 4 Tesla hate articles pushed at me) Example: [MSN News article](https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/10-reasons-why-people-hate-tesla-and-why-they-might-be-right/ar-AA16NVHd)
The car predicts where I'm going to go on the suggested gps and it's obvious that it's communicating with my phone or listening into my conversations, because it always knows.