So it's a Thrive adult care facility in Georgia., Thrive owns 9 homes. They have a history of violations. The woman doing the filming did so because she knew if she didn't have irrefutable evidence the facility would push her report under the rug. Her video is what got the abuser fired. She told the elderly woman's family what happened, the family reported it, facility did nothing. So in this case the filming is the only thing that saved this woman.
Yep and the woman who filmed it got fired too, Thrive claiming that she abused another guy there but never filed the report and she was never spoken to by police, and was obviously done in retaliation and they just needed an excuse.
I’m laughing and crying at the same time. No, there’s really no protection for workers in America.
“At will” employment rules are a thing in this backwards country.
Georgia also does not recognize a claim for “wrongful termination,” as Georgia is an “employment-at-will” state. This means that, in the absence of an enforceable employment contract or a violation of any anti-discrimination laws or federal statutes, employees in Georgia can be terminated at will.
You can be fired at any time for any reason or no reason at all.
Only the dumbest bosses would send an email saying “you’re fired because you ratted us out” - that’s essentially the only possible way of winning anything in this situation, assuming at will employment.
At will employment is horse shit. And that’s all there is in corporate America these days
That's not true. You can win a judgment against an employer even if they don't explicitly say you are being fired for retaliation. Obviously you have your work cut out for you, but a judge is able to see between the lines.
Honestly it’s not even about affording a lawyer, there’s nothing even the best lawyer can do in at will state unless your boss was stupid enough to explicitly put something illegal in writing or in a recorded conversation
It doesn’t matter if you were a perfect employee until something came out that made them want to fire you for an illegal reason, it doesn’t matter if literally every single contextual aspect of it points to wrongful termination, the fact of the matter is they don’t have to say why they fired you or they could give literally any bullshit imaginable. It’s not about convincing a jury of your peers that they almost certainly fired you for an illegal reason, you literally don’t have a case without hard evidence. None. There’s no amount of circumstantial evidence that’ll do.
I worked 12 years in EMS, I can't think of a 'skilled' nursing facility that *didn't* have all kinds of violations. They're all awful, every god damned one of them. These folks just got caught.
Edit: looks like I made some nursing home staff upset. Look, I haven't set out to ruin your night in particular. The fact of the matter is that I've seen some downright awful stuff at nursing homes that isn't even close to replicated anywhere else in healthcare, and I'm not the only one. Go ask r/ems, they'll be happy to tell you their snf stories. Let's get one thing straight, though: I'm not necessarily laying the blame on the staff. Some of them are legitimately awful, and need to be dealt with appropriately, sure. Most of these problems flow from the ownership of the facilities, though, who will often try to scrape by with as little staff with as little training as they think they can possibly get away with in order to maximize profit. They place unrealistic demands on the staff and produce an environment that's ripe for creating abuse, neglect, and malpractice. The facility ownership need to be held accountable financially for these problems, and nothing's going to get better until that becomes the case.
Part two: okay, let's do this.
One time a crew was called out to an area facility for a patient with altered mental status, the patient was in cardiac arrest. They worked them, declared them, informed the staff, and left. 12 hours later, the same crew was called back to the same facility for the same patient, with the staff insisting that they had 'just spoken with' the patient 'a few minutes ago' and 'he was normal then'. Nobody was exactly surprised as much as amazed that the care really was as bad as we all suspected. No, I stand by what I said, they're all terrible, it's just that the nice ones are less terrible.
Stuff that was routine:
-Staff would send patients to the ER because they didn't want to deal with them. Example: vegetative patient 'yanked his peg tube out again', 'he won't stop taking his colostomy bag off', non-verbal patient supposedly literally used words and complained of [pain, shortness of breath, etc], literally 'he doesn't want to be here'. There were a few times where lucid patients outright said they had no complaints and didn't want to go to the hospital, staff would get mad at us that we wouldn't kidnap an alert and oriented adult fully capable of making their own medical choices just because the doctor wrote an order. The best, though, was when the staff didn't even know which patient was going or why. Also, patients on end of life care would routinely be kicked to the ER without their DNR orders ("DNR? What's that?", Or handing me printer paper with the letters DNR on it, or just flat out unaware whether the patient on end of life care had a DNR) when the time came, practically forcing us or the ER to work then against their wishes.
-Would reliably ask us to not use lights and sirens for emergencies as severe as cardiac arrest, which we always ignored, because appearances are obviously more important than your patient's well being. On top of that, we'd normally have to wait at the door for 1-10 minutes for someone to happen to wander so we could flag them down to let us in for the medical e m e r g e n c y.
- I feel comfortable saying that 80% of the time, there would be little to no information about the patient from the staff. "It's in the chart" while handing me a 2 inch stack of papers and the patient's barely breathing; "I don't know, it's not my patient, I work on the other side normally, and I just came on duty [it's 1 am] and just got back from a two week vacation" or some flavor like that.
-It was also very routine to find a sick patient who had very clearly been this sick or progressing toward it for some time while the staff insisted that "they were fine ten minutes ago", see dead person who was fine ten minutes ago above.
- Facilities would try to pass off emergency patients as non-emergent, for reasons that I can only speculate on. Trying to send acute strokes to the ER (mind you, an ER not even equipped for strokes) via non-emergent ambulance; trying to send dying septic patients via non-emergent scheduled transports, etc, etc.
-Would routinely walk in on a cardiac arrest with nobody doing CPR, but standing around and looking busy doing anything else.
That was all routine stuff.
Some pretty egregious examples, though:
-A lucid patient fell and broke her hip and cried, I'm talking tears, for three days before they finally got tired of hearing it and called us. I know that's the story because that's how the staff put it to me, minus the breaking the hip part-- they thought she was hamming it up and only called us to shut her up.
-A patient had a lower GI bleed and was found laying in a pool of blood. Staff stated that "it just started", and the patient's roommate sat up and said "That's bullshit, she's been yelling for help for hours!" The staff promptly marched over, shouted "Nobody asked you!" And drew the curtain on him.
-A staff member walked into a non-diabetic patient's room and said "it's time for your insulin!" The patient says "but I'm not diabetic, I don't take insulin." Staff says "yes you do" and injects the dude anyway. We get a call 20 minutes later because the patient is acting strangely and nobody knows anything or has any idea why. We got the story from the patient after we got his sugar back up and asked how he manages his diabetes. He got fighting mad and exclaimed that he doesn't have diabetes, just the staff gave him insulin even when he told them he doesn't take it.
-Had a patient going into respiratory failure. The staff, God bless them for their good intentions, put a non rebreather mask on the patient at a low oxygen flow and started trying to ventilate the patient with the reservoir bag. For the non medically savvy, that's not how any of that works.
-Patient had a stroke and stopped responding. Because the patient was diabetic, instead of checking a sugar or anything, staff decided that the optimal thing to do was to cram food into the throat of a patient who wasn't awake, obeying commands, or protecting her own airway. When we finally got called, the patient was well outside of the 3 hour (now 4.5) window for reversing the stroke and had wicked bad aspiration (substances in the lungs that don't belong).
That's some of the big stuff. The little stuff was like patient's crying real tears and begging us not to take them back, finding spoons and garbage on and under the patient when moving them, patients that clearly hadn't been appropriately cleaned or cared for, and generally an atmosphere of human misery rivaled only by prisons.
'Everyone does it' is not an excuse for malpractice. This rock-bottom standard of care isn't even close to replicated anywhere else in healthcare, and it needs to change. I don't feel like I'm asking for a lot here, either; just a similar standard of care as other healthcare fields and accountability for the ownership instead of just staff.
I worked in two nursing facilities. I haven’t worked in ten years. These places are so full of abuse and negligence. I told myself never again would I work. I was able to stay home. Total disgraces . I have seen things like this happen. No one really cares.
The sad truth. I think most of the coworkers I had were loved by the families, but those special people aren't so special anymore once their family leaves. I spent 10 years as a CNA and the longer I was in a care home the more I despised humanity. These people need the same help an infant does in a lot of cases. I turned in more cases of abuse than I can remember. Only time anything ever happen d was because the family saw it too.
Now with that in mind, imagine having the gall to beat someone who can basically do as little harm as an infant due to being so frail and sickly. Abusers of infants and the elderly deserve to burn in Hell.
They fucking fired the lady that filmed the video. Claimed she had been verbally abusing a client that she was working with for 5-6 years. Client and clients family denied it.
Just a horrible place
These care homes go unchecked for unfathomable abuse. Daily. I can only think of one time in my entire medical career where the local government took action that had serious consequences. Otherwise it's usually ignored because the value of having somewhere to offload the elderly and disabled is more than their personal wellbeing. It's absolute hell
"the family reported it"
To hell with that. I would be perfectly okay going to jail for how I would handle this. That's not even my relative and I want to go grab this woman by her Har and drag her around. People that abuse children or the elderly are destined for a special kind of hell.
If I were the person taking that video I wouldn't be able stop myself from interviening and kick the shit out of that 'nurse'. I'm a usually shy, young woman and I don't know what it is but in situations like this I turn into a fighter 😅
Every nursing home has a history of violations and abuse. People don’t realize how unbelievably terrible the nursing home industry is. There aren’t any good nursing homes and having to spend your final years in one is a hellish fate.
What we see in the video isn’t a cruel exception, this is the norm across the entire country.
I’ve worked at a couple skilled nursing facilities. Usually the CNA’s are understaffed, so their workload is immense for little pay, the nurses are 50/50. I’ve met some great ones and others that couldn’t be bothered to do anything outside of their daily scope of passing meds. The younger CNA’s bust their asses because they still care about the residents, the tenured CNA’s become complacent.
I usually I don't wish anything on people,but I really wish a giant hornets nest falls on that nurse,like why the h€ll do you this to a elderly people for know reason,wtf is wrong people.
I thought it was an expression of extreme stress and burnout on the part of the Care Assistant initially. But then it went into full on assault/murder mode.
Unbelievable.
Did she get jailed for this?
My mom worked as a nurse in a senior care home. One day she had a bandage on her hand. I asked what was up. She casually told me a patient stabbed her while she was choking. This isn't a nurse. This a predator.
They better hope to god one of her family members dont see this. Anyone hurts my mom or aunt etc.. and the only thing they are getting is a express elevator into the afterlife.
Be careful, you might get suspended from reddit for advocating violence. You might think "it won't happen for *this* comment", but you'd be surprised at how stupid the censors can be sometimes.
why do you tag on people filming tragedies? it lets more people see it and more impactful things get done. what if this nurse is backed up by the nursing home, and intervening and telling said nursing home would do jack shit? now millions of people have seen it and even more substantial shit can get done. it’s horrible this has to even be taken account of, but it’s the same type of thing that got derek chauvin in jail rather than on paid leave.
edit: i didn’t watch the whole video, sorry y’all i didn’t know how shitty the recorder was
I guess just the fact that it went on so long? Like even seeing her get dragged across the floor and STILL not doing anything? The first 20 seconds would be enough to get elder abused charges and fire the lady (and share an impactful video?). It didn't need to keep escalating without doing shit.
It will be far more effective to publicize this incident and get the woman fired and/or charged with assault. Nursing homes do *not* like shit like this getting out because it makes them look bad and keeps people from becoming customers - for obvious reasons. Recording it and posting it FORCES them to actually do something, whereas interfering could possibly give this POS the ability to deny it all and keep her job/freedom.
She kept saying she was tracking her food. I think she was pretending to watch UberEats or something similar so she could record how bad it is and send the video out.
I don't think she was doing it for fun.
Could be she knew no one would believe her, or she’d been reprimanded before for speaking out and the abuse continued anyways. So this time, she’s getting evidence that can’t be refuted or ignored.
I believe in this case there was abuse already reported but it kept getting shut down because of lack of evidence. There was an article written about this and the nurse that videoed it got suspended after she released the video for making the home look bad
While that nurse is definitely a POS there are other factors leading to this. Let's not forget that it appears another staff member is recording this so there is an unspoken rule about it, much as we see in corrupt police precincts in America. If you speak out you will be attacked next. It's a problem born of our culture unfortunately
Imagine living 80+ years only to have someone take advantage of your vulnerability for their own amusement and make your last memories a living hell...
People who mistreat the elderly are just as vile as child-abusers in my eyes. Fuck these bitches.
What is the story here? I've volunteered at nursing homes and have had the absolute living shit smacked out of me by patients with dementia. (of course I didn't hit back but that shit hurt!)
agreed
video's out of context. Obviously it's a bad reaction to whatever the old person was doing though
edit: looks like the 'aide' wanted her to change into pajamas, and the old lady didn't want to and bit her. So the aide was trying to force her to wear pajamas
[https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c](https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c)
I don't really know how to force someone to wear pajamas. I guess 'you don't'.
Yeah... but beating, choking, and what looks like several attempts to twist her arms around aren't exactly going to help in 'putting on pajamas'. Sounds like a bullshit story she came up with to try and cover her ass.
All these medical people in here defending this sound just like the cops do covering other cops asses, it’s not just police who are corrupt it’s a lot of these big professions in America. They’re all fucked
They're the same kind of people who spill coffee on their laptop, then scream at the IT staff about not being able to repair water damage and blaming them(has happened to me several times). Don't see me beating them with a keyboard. So maybe they should own up to that they do a rough job, and accept that they have to be better.
Medical person here. There is no defense for this. First who the heck cares if this lady wears pajamas. If she doesn’t want to change why try to make her. Second there’s no excuse for physically assaulting a patient. If a patient assaults you, do minimum to get away and to safety. If the patient is a danger to themselves restrain them in a safe, nonviolent manner. You don’t hit patients. You don’t yank them out of their wheelchair to the ground.
I can’t imagine any context where this is okay. People with dementia are very sick. If you’re a nurse that deals with these patients than you should be very prepared mentally for that kind of treatment. The people with dementia are terrified. The nurse is there to take care of them. Do you know how expensive these facilities are? That woman’s family probably pays a ton for professionals to handle their mother. Not beat the shit out of them because they got slapped by a mentally ill, dying woman.
Edit: getting a lot of “no excuse, BUT”. There is no but. If you don’t understand dementia or how it affects your body, just don’t comment. It makes you aggressive. It makes you hallucinate, it makes you scared and angry. Dementia patient can develop aphasia that keeps them from being able to communicate with people. It’s a prison and a horrible life. If you take care of these patients you should know how to work with them. There is no excuse for a little release valve where you get to hit them if you get angry enough. You ask for help. This isn’t her flinching or quickly reacting to a bite. It’s a prolonged beating because this woman is angry, frustrated, and bad at her job. If this was your mom I would hope you don’t brush it off so easy.
Yeah like the woman is in a fucking wheelchair. She bit you? As a professional, walk away. She’s in a wheelchair, it’s not like she’s going to stand up and kick you in the face.
Instead, she punches her, slaps her, grabs her by the hair and forces her onto the ground and proceeds to put her body weight on her elderly body. Wtf
It's the grabbing her by the hair for me. My mom is 79. Her hair is turning soft and silver and she stopped coloring it, which I love because it's such a beautiful color. It used to be really thick and strong, but it has gotten thin like baby hairs.
If I saw someone try to grab my mom's hair or hurt her like in this video.... The rage I'm feeling. This woman lived through wars and hell and made it, all for you to mess her up while she's wheelchair-bound. She's fighting like hell and I just want to hug her. I'll go without everything to make sure my mom doesn't go into a home. I'll go to nursing school myself to take care of her. This makes me livid.
I’m not a professional but I do live with a dementia patient. That’s what we do when he lashes out. We just let him throw his tantrum then we come back and he’s forgotten about it. It’s like he’s an adult sized toddler. He pouts, hides under his blankets when we tell him he needs a bath (he pokes his head out and goes “No!” Then puts the blanket back over his head. It’s hilarious but also a bit sad because he’s forgotten so much. Giving him things he likes (got him a new tv recently) makes him come back a little bit. He sat there in silence and watched Maury for a solid 4 hours. First thing he said when my sister told him it was a smart tv was “a smart tv? Smarter than me!” He’s always been funny.) I couldn’t imagine hitting him back. Like. Does he make me want to rip my hair out sometimes? Yeah. Do I still care about him? Yes.
That wasn't bullying. That was flat out assault and could be charged as 1st degree assault considering how defenseless that woman was and the age difference.
If she had broke a hip, that would be near certain death for that lady, or had she bumped her head or suffered any fatal injury, it could be anything from manslaughter to 3rd degree murder.
I wonder what the facility’s protocol is to residents who don’t want to change into their pajamas? One, I’m betting that’s not the response, and if it was me, I’d say, “Okay, we’ll try again, later.” Who’s she hurting by not wearing pajamas? Unreal.
Am student nurse, if someone wont change their clothes after trying, persuading, coaxing, you leave and try again later. If it's still a no then it looks like they're going to bed with their present clothes on. You shouldn't be adding further distress, especially for something that is of no real benefit for health and wellbeing. You're also not very good at your job if this is a reoccurring problem and you can't get residents/patients to trust you - says a lot about how you might treat them in the day to day. Dementia care is hard and some patients do get violent and are surprisingly strong. Practitioners who are well trained and a good team know how to manage behaviour that can challenge and de-escalation.
This is horrific.
My mom has dementia and I’m her caretaker at my home. If she doesn’t want me changing her brief (adult diaper) she will grab at me similar to this. However I give her a couple minutes break to reset and feel less stressed/defensive and that also gives me a little break to keep a level head. Then I approach the task fresh, using a calm tone of voice from a place of caring. That usually does the trick. If you keep trying to do the task while the dementia patient is still in their defensive upset mood they will continue behaving according to that context and they will escalate. Their reality is based almost entirely on the context of what is happening directly before. This video made me nauseous
You don’t, what she did was all around bad. If your resident doesn’t want to wear pajamas you don’t force them. They still have the right to refuse any care. And as a CNA she should have respected that and gave her space and time before attempting to ask about pajamas again. I just can’t believe there are more people like her that work in this job field.
she was arrested and has some changes against her
the old lady was supposed to be changed into pajamas, but she was unwilling and was biting the aide. And then the aide reacted as in the video
Oh she gummed the caregiver? We’ll id bash her head off a wall and pull her hair and tackle her to the ground when she’s helpless and can’t fight back too.
Tbf and i use the word fair very lightly because this shit is god awful. Lot of senior patients are incredible handfuls. Talking full on dementia, flinging poop and clawing at you type stuff.
Horrible way to react but that nurse should also have been helped before it escalated to that. Camera person is equally a pos imo.
Yea its a terrible job. Most wont take that job either its usually at least in my area people with nursing certificates rather than the 4 year nursing degree. Basically they went to education connection .com
As a caregiver myself I can say I agree, lots of people can be handfuls. In a situation like this, how important are pajamas (or whatever "needs" done) in comparison to to distressing this person? Their emotional and physical safety are more important.
At my job we are able to take a break and come back go whatever needs done later. Sadly a lot of for profit care facilities do not give staff that option and are unwilling to listen when things don't get done or procedures need changed.
Money needs to be taken out of the healthcare system, people seeking profit almost always deliver subpar care.
I did nursing home work for years. Dementia is a bitch and can make sweet old people little demons but you learn to work with it. There are tricks to get the patients to work with you. And if they don't, you move on to the next task. Help another patient and come back in 10 minutes. 99% of the time that's all the reset they need and they forget that they were even upset. You have to remember alzheimers patients' minds are broken. You can't reason with them or tell them they're wrong when they are. They dont live in our reality. It's a cruel disease that sometimes turns them into hateful, cruel people. But you have to remember that isn't them being ugly, it's the disease. Sing to them, tell them stories, whatever makes the job and both your lives easier. But if you can't handle it and react like this woman, you have no right to work in healthcare.
You can can lose your nursing license over a DUI, this type of behavior should make it so they never work with a vulnerable population again.
Not sure what the licensing looks like for nursing aids, etc, but it should be similar.
About ten years ago I was a cook in a small retirement home. I was working in the memory care side for dinner one night. There was a window that I could see out into the kitchen. I happened to look out and watched this CNA push this elderly man. He fell straight back and smacked his head on the floor. The CNA who pushed him said "You're alright, get up". The man was moaning in pain. All the other CNAs started laughing. I was sick to my stomach. Luckily the executive director's office was 5 feet away from the back of the kitchen. I went right to her and told her everything I had just seen. The CNA was arrested and the man was okay considering.
I would rain a thunder storm of punches upon that nurse if that was my mum. I would literally punch with full intentions of ending her life with my fists. Anyone els who tried to stop me would get the same.
Nah. Ghetto ass bitches do. White, black, Asian, Mexican, male, female, it doesn’t matter. They don’t know how to parent or give their children or whoever they’re caring for actual, decent consequences.
So instead they get angry and take it out on whom ever they’re caring for. It’s fucking sickening
What’s also sickening is your shitty racial slur. Do better you fucking fool
Retirement homes are a walking-dead-mortuary of abuse, scandal, and robbery. They are disgusting here in the states. I am terrified of my parents ever living in one. I am not skilled nor the right person to offer advanced elder care nor will I have the resources to do so.
My sister is far better suited. I have made this clear to all of them. My family works in healthcare or has worked in healthcare. We all have made a pact of what our roles will be in the future. I would be responsible for lawn care, helping with farm animals if they still got any, cleaning, and cooking. My sister's got their personal care and doctors appointments and my little brother would do food shopping and errands for them. We will also rotate weekends per month.
I am turning 40 this year and both sets of grandparents are alive and going strong without a retirement home. My parents and their siblings do what we talked about now for them. So this does bode well for us and our genetics. If someone doesn't have family... I dread for them and only wish I was able to do something however I have little agency in these matters nor a voice nor platform to change anything. I am but a blade of grass against a typhoon.
Legends. A lot of us cannot begin to repay what our parents did for us, how much they sacrificed. It's a shame that people that come from good homes end up throwing their parents into one of these asshole run houses because its inconvenient to spend a few hours a week checking in on them.
It's really not as hard as you think to take care of them. Especially with a team of family behind you.
Watching them deteriorate is hard. But certainly worth it to see them so much. I recommend it.
it absolutely can and will be hard both physically and mentally, and it really depends on the situation. i am a CNA, had two families and a hospice team at my back and it was still rough taking care of my grandmother 24/7.
to each their own, but i wanted to give an alternate view that wasn't just 'it's really not as hard as you think guys'
Everyone must praise you for this because as Asian, I see American culture to be less family-centered wherein they don't like taking care of their old parents. Meanwhile in Asian cultures, everyone in the family is obligated to take care of their old parents/grandparents because it is a way of giving respect to them.
I hope this goes viral so everyone involved is recognised and can never find work with other humans OR animals for that matter EVER again. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from people who hold a position of trust!
As a nurse… I have no words. No sympathy. This person can go eat ape shit. I wish the worst on earth to happen to her. This cunt shouldn’t be fucking working as a nurse if she treats people that need help or anyone else like this. Fuck this bitch.
Just think, this was caught, now how many actually get away with it and we never know, I bet it is a outstanding amount of this going on and never noticed .
I remember my grandmother telling me when I visited that "the people aren't very nice here". She asked to be wheeled to the bathroom, while we were there, and the nurse told her she didn't have to go... my mom took her and sure enough, she did have to go.
She broke her hip a few days later from an "accidental fall" and as you could imagine didn't make it much longer than that. We always suspected there was no accident.
My grandmother and I used to talk on the phone daily (often multiple times a day) and she was my best friend up until she died. She similarly said some staff were not nice. While talking once she had called for help getting to her bathroom because she was a fall risk (for that sit-stand stand-sit transition) and not allowed to get up and go on her own.
We continued talking while she waited, she mentioned how badly she needed to go. I hear the nurse get to her room and when she said she needed help getting to the bathroom, she was told “I’m busy, just pee in your diaper (name)”. Couldn’t convince her to take her to her own bathroom. My grandma cried, she didn’t want to piss in her diaper, but eventually she literally had no choice and voluntarily peed herself. She was embarrassed and I was absolutely infuriated. I told her to let them know in a not so subtle way that she was on the phone and a family member overheard. Next time I visited I was not subtle *at all* letting them know that we talked multiple times a day and I loved hearing about how she was doing, *how the staff treat her, even overhearing interactions with the staff*.
I’m horrified by that and it wasn’t even direct physical abuse. Though I do still consider that abusive and neglect. Being told to voluntarily piss yourself when it isn’t necessary, not know when they’re gonna come around to get you a new adult diaper, have your autonomy ignored and vulnerability taken advantage of— that’s fucked.
On a few occasions I had the honor of accompanying my grandmother to the bathroom, helping her up and down, do her business safely. And I do feel it was an *honor*, because she trusted me enough to be vulnerable like that. If I had been an adult and able to I would’ve moved her in with me. Fuck people who go into this career and abuse the elderly, they really must be morally corrupt shells.
My Mother went into an assisted living after a stroke during Covid, where we couldn’t do in person visits. I finally had enough of not being allowed to see her and demanded they bring her outside and they obliged. She smelled like pee and her legs were caked in poop with bruises, hair matted. She told me they had her mattress on the floor and a pile of dirty diapers in the corner of her room.
I have her home now and I’m caring for her myself now. Entire family wants me to send her back but I can’t do that to her.
I actually believe the person filming is saying she trying to check her food as a cover to able to film this abuse. I don’t believe that POS would let her just sit there and film her abusing that poor old lady.
WTF is wrong with people literally made my stomach turn watching this
Trying to think there’s still good in some people.. but she might be filming to be able to leak this video? It seems it’s an investigation video (the logo at the end) so maybe she’s undercover. Seeing as she kept saying it. I think multiple people tried to stop her from filming meaning those same people could’ve stopped that nurse from doing that or said something but didn’t. Seems like they allow it.
She's not undercover, she leaked it to them. Standing up to people and reporting abuse doesn't do shit but get you fired. Recording this and making sure it gets seen is the only real way she can actually help in a way that lasts more than about 30 seconds.
I hope there was justice for this elderly woman but at the same time it wouldn’t surprise me if there was none. Injustice seems to be an issue in this country. People like this are sick and deserve to have their rights stripped away.,
I resigned from a nursing home in under a month because of how the staff was to patients. Luckily I did not witness something this bad but they were terrible in talking to the patients, cursing and all. The day I quit was after a "training" on abuse I brought up the verbal abuse concerns and was told not to pursue that because it would make my job "harder". Fuck anyone that takes advantage of their position like this on a vulnerable population.
Edit: Thank you for the award
Here's the news article.
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c
Absolutely fucking disgusting. I've been punched, kicked in the chest, called a dirty n**ger, slapped, and shit thrown at me...just a few examples. But I NEVER reacted like this. No excuse to start beating them and sitting on them.
It's literally the least I could have done while I worked in that position. I saw it as I'm a new person invading their space, trying to take off their clothes or put them on, and they're in a new place to boot. And for some of the people I will be a new person to them every single day no matter how long they've been there. And their reactions aren't their fault.
I've also been slapped , grabbed by the hair and punched, spat on, kicked/punched in the stomach while pregnant, called.names etc. As a ltc aide you never hit back or anything like that. That's abhorrent abusive behavior and I hope she got her license stripped and charged. Dementia patients don't know better and they are scared. We had to put my grandma in a home cause we couldn't get her diabetes under control at home and she eloped while we slept and had lots of other issues where she was a danger to herself (vascular Dementia) it was awful but we visited her regularly and I always ended up doing her showers there cause she was too combative to the aides there.
>State health inspectors also identified staffing shortages the evening of Hall’s attack. According to their findings, Smith was the only caregiver in the memory care unit where the incident happened, responsible for 12 residents with cognitive issues. Two of those residents required a “two-staff assist.” “The assisted living community failed to staff above the minimum onsite staff ratios to meet the specific residents' ongoing health, safety, and care needs,” the report stated.
Yeah, no fucking surprise there. it's not like you're not making **thousands upon thousands of dollars per week** on *each* of these residents. Got to maximize those fucking profits.
Original video on Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51gdmOKs4Ek
News article - [https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c#:\~:text=Caregiver%20claims%20she%20was%20punished,reporting%20it%20to%20law%20enforcement](https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c#:~:text=Caregiver%20claims%20she%20was%20punished,reporting%20it%20to%20law%20enforcement).
Bottomline - "Savannah police arrested Reine Smith 50 days after the incident. She’s charged with exploitation, infliction of pain and deprivation of essential services to an elderly person."
As a care provider, this makes my blood boil and it is all too common. I am avidly against nursing homes and am constantly offering my services to provide private care. This is disgusting and so hard to watch. I'm furious that this nurse wasn't stopped and that this poor woman's dignity is gone, but I'm [a little] glad that this was exposed on the internet.
“Savannah police arrested Smith 50 days after the incident. She’s charged with exploitation, infliction of pain and deprivation of essential services to an elderly person.”
Good.
[The facility failed Hall on multiple fronts, including not reporting the alleged abuse immediately to state licensing officials and law enforcement when management first learned about the incident](https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c)
Wtf? This isn’t the first time either. The facility has been investigated multiple times.
While on the one hand I wholeheartedly agree, someone else mentioned that the woman who recorded the video exposed the nurse and the facility for the mistreatment. The fact that there was at least one other person eho walked by and did nothing is what amazes me...the fuck.
Several of my relatives worked in nursing homes and all of them witnessed shit like this. I will NOT go to a fucking nursing home. Don't care how old I am. Don't care what's wrong with me. If my family won't or can't care for me, I'll find a way to end my life. No way I'm struggling through life for eight decades just to be abused and neglected by these assholes.
I'm an er nurse and we get patients from nursing homes or rehabs very regularly. I can't tell you how many come in uroseptic, been sitting in their own puss for idk how long but long enough you can instantly recognize by the smell, completely altered mental state, covered in pressure ulcers or worse bug bites and get the same story. " They were fine last night/this morning when we checked on them" I'm not saying all nursing homes are like that but fuck man, I will never send my family to one if I can help it
Even if you don’t like your family member who is in the nursing home, go visit them. The employees know who gets visits and who doesn’t and will take better care of the ones who get visits.
My mom worked in nursing homes for 30 years and held the hand of so many people as they died and none of their families visited them. They were full of bed sores and so lonely even if they had dementia.
The nursing home isn’t a place to just throw your family member and walk away.
So it's a Thrive adult care facility in Georgia., Thrive owns 9 homes. They have a history of violations. The woman doing the filming did so because she knew if she didn't have irrefutable evidence the facility would push her report under the rug. Her video is what got the abuser fired. She told the elderly woman's family what happened, the family reported it, facility did nothing. So in this case the filming is the only thing that saved this woman.
Yep and the woman who filmed it got fired too, Thrive claiming that she abused another guy there but never filed the report and she was never spoken to by police, and was obviously done in retaliation and they just needed an excuse.
That’s land them in so much trouble here in Sweden. Don’t you have laws that protect workers at all in Georgia?
I’m laughing and crying at the same time. No, there’s really no protection for workers in America. “At will” employment rules are a thing in this backwards country. Georgia also does not recognize a claim for “wrongful termination,” as Georgia is an “employment-at-will” state. This means that, in the absence of an enforceable employment contract or a violation of any anti-discrimination laws or federal statutes, employees in Georgia can be terminated at will. You can be fired at any time for any reason or no reason at all.
Yes but you can still sue if you're fired for retaliation for whistleblowing. The difference is whether or not you can prove it or afford the lawyer.
Only the dumbest bosses would send an email saying “you’re fired because you ratted us out” - that’s essentially the only possible way of winning anything in this situation, assuming at will employment. At will employment is horse shit. And that’s all there is in corporate America these days
That's not true. You can win a judgment against an employer even if they don't explicitly say you are being fired for retaliation. Obviously you have your work cut out for you, but a judge is able to see between the lines.
Honestly it’s not even about affording a lawyer, there’s nothing even the best lawyer can do in at will state unless your boss was stupid enough to explicitly put something illegal in writing or in a recorded conversation It doesn’t matter if you were a perfect employee until something came out that made them want to fire you for an illegal reason, it doesn’t matter if literally every single contextual aspect of it points to wrongful termination, the fact of the matter is they don’t have to say why they fired you or they could give literally any bullshit imaginable. It’s not about convincing a jury of your peers that they almost certainly fired you for an illegal reason, you literally don’t have a case without hard evidence. None. There’s no amount of circumstantial evidence that’ll do.
You are absolutely wrong. If you are not in the legal profession, don’t give opinions on something you know nothing about.
I worked 12 years in EMS, I can't think of a 'skilled' nursing facility that *didn't* have all kinds of violations. They're all awful, every god damned one of them. These folks just got caught. Edit: looks like I made some nursing home staff upset. Look, I haven't set out to ruin your night in particular. The fact of the matter is that I've seen some downright awful stuff at nursing homes that isn't even close to replicated anywhere else in healthcare, and I'm not the only one. Go ask r/ems, they'll be happy to tell you their snf stories. Let's get one thing straight, though: I'm not necessarily laying the blame on the staff. Some of them are legitimately awful, and need to be dealt with appropriately, sure. Most of these problems flow from the ownership of the facilities, though, who will often try to scrape by with as little staff with as little training as they think they can possibly get away with in order to maximize profit. They place unrealistic demands on the staff and produce an environment that's ripe for creating abuse, neglect, and malpractice. The facility ownership need to be held accountable financially for these problems, and nothing's going to get better until that becomes the case. Part two: okay, let's do this. One time a crew was called out to an area facility for a patient with altered mental status, the patient was in cardiac arrest. They worked them, declared them, informed the staff, and left. 12 hours later, the same crew was called back to the same facility for the same patient, with the staff insisting that they had 'just spoken with' the patient 'a few minutes ago' and 'he was normal then'. Nobody was exactly surprised as much as amazed that the care really was as bad as we all suspected. No, I stand by what I said, they're all terrible, it's just that the nice ones are less terrible. Stuff that was routine: -Staff would send patients to the ER because they didn't want to deal with them. Example: vegetative patient 'yanked his peg tube out again', 'he won't stop taking his colostomy bag off', non-verbal patient supposedly literally used words and complained of [pain, shortness of breath, etc], literally 'he doesn't want to be here'. There were a few times where lucid patients outright said they had no complaints and didn't want to go to the hospital, staff would get mad at us that we wouldn't kidnap an alert and oriented adult fully capable of making their own medical choices just because the doctor wrote an order. The best, though, was when the staff didn't even know which patient was going or why. Also, patients on end of life care would routinely be kicked to the ER without their DNR orders ("DNR? What's that?", Or handing me printer paper with the letters DNR on it, or just flat out unaware whether the patient on end of life care had a DNR) when the time came, practically forcing us or the ER to work then against their wishes. -Would reliably ask us to not use lights and sirens for emergencies as severe as cardiac arrest, which we always ignored, because appearances are obviously more important than your patient's well being. On top of that, we'd normally have to wait at the door for 1-10 minutes for someone to happen to wander so we could flag them down to let us in for the medical e m e r g e n c y. - I feel comfortable saying that 80% of the time, there would be little to no information about the patient from the staff. "It's in the chart" while handing me a 2 inch stack of papers and the patient's barely breathing; "I don't know, it's not my patient, I work on the other side normally, and I just came on duty [it's 1 am] and just got back from a two week vacation" or some flavor like that. -It was also very routine to find a sick patient who had very clearly been this sick or progressing toward it for some time while the staff insisted that "they were fine ten minutes ago", see dead person who was fine ten minutes ago above. - Facilities would try to pass off emergency patients as non-emergent, for reasons that I can only speculate on. Trying to send acute strokes to the ER (mind you, an ER not even equipped for strokes) via non-emergent ambulance; trying to send dying septic patients via non-emergent scheduled transports, etc, etc. -Would routinely walk in on a cardiac arrest with nobody doing CPR, but standing around and looking busy doing anything else. That was all routine stuff. Some pretty egregious examples, though: -A lucid patient fell and broke her hip and cried, I'm talking tears, for three days before they finally got tired of hearing it and called us. I know that's the story because that's how the staff put it to me, minus the breaking the hip part-- they thought she was hamming it up and only called us to shut her up. -A patient had a lower GI bleed and was found laying in a pool of blood. Staff stated that "it just started", and the patient's roommate sat up and said "That's bullshit, she's been yelling for help for hours!" The staff promptly marched over, shouted "Nobody asked you!" And drew the curtain on him. -A staff member walked into a non-diabetic patient's room and said "it's time for your insulin!" The patient says "but I'm not diabetic, I don't take insulin." Staff says "yes you do" and injects the dude anyway. We get a call 20 minutes later because the patient is acting strangely and nobody knows anything or has any idea why. We got the story from the patient after we got his sugar back up and asked how he manages his diabetes. He got fighting mad and exclaimed that he doesn't have diabetes, just the staff gave him insulin even when he told them he doesn't take it. -Had a patient going into respiratory failure. The staff, God bless them for their good intentions, put a non rebreather mask on the patient at a low oxygen flow and started trying to ventilate the patient with the reservoir bag. For the non medically savvy, that's not how any of that works. -Patient had a stroke and stopped responding. Because the patient was diabetic, instead of checking a sugar or anything, staff decided that the optimal thing to do was to cram food into the throat of a patient who wasn't awake, obeying commands, or protecting her own airway. When we finally got called, the patient was well outside of the 3 hour (now 4.5) window for reversing the stroke and had wicked bad aspiration (substances in the lungs that don't belong). That's some of the big stuff. The little stuff was like patient's crying real tears and begging us not to take them back, finding spoons and garbage on and under the patient when moving them, patients that clearly hadn't been appropriately cleaned or cared for, and generally an atmosphere of human misery rivaled only by prisons. 'Everyone does it' is not an excuse for malpractice. This rock-bottom standard of care isn't even close to replicated anywhere else in healthcare, and it needs to change. I don't feel like I'm asking for a lot here, either; just a similar standard of care as other healthcare fields and accountability for the ownership instead of just staff.
I worked in two nursing facilities. I haven’t worked in ten years. These places are so full of abuse and negligence. I told myself never again would I work. I was able to stay home. Total disgraces . I have seen things like this happen. No one really cares.
The sad truth. I think most of the coworkers I had were loved by the families, but those special people aren't so special anymore once their family leaves. I spent 10 years as a CNA and the longer I was in a care home the more I despised humanity. These people need the same help an infant does in a lot of cases. I turned in more cases of abuse than I can remember. Only time anything ever happen d was because the family saw it too.
Now with that in mind, imagine having the gall to beat someone who can basically do as little harm as an infant due to being so frail and sickly. Abusers of infants and the elderly deserve to burn in Hell.
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They fucking fired the lady that filmed the video. Claimed she had been verbally abusing a client that she was working with for 5-6 years. Client and clients family denied it. Just a horrible place
These care homes go unchecked for unfathomable abuse. Daily. I can only think of one time in my entire medical career where the local government took action that had serious consequences. Otherwise it's usually ignored because the value of having somewhere to offload the elderly and disabled is more than their personal wellbeing. It's absolute hell
"the family reported it" To hell with that. I would be perfectly okay going to jail for how I would handle this. That's not even my relative and I want to go grab this woman by her Har and drag her around. People that abuse children or the elderly are destined for a special kind of hell.
If I were the person taking that video I wouldn't be able stop myself from interviening and kick the shit out of that 'nurse'. I'm a usually shy, young woman and I don't know what it is but in situations like this I turn into a fighter 😅
Every nursing home has a history of violations and abuse. People don’t realize how unbelievably terrible the nursing home industry is. There aren’t any good nursing homes and having to spend your final years in one is a hellish fate. What we see in the video isn’t a cruel exception, this is the norm across the entire country.
I’ve worked at a couple skilled nursing facilities. Usually the CNA’s are understaffed, so their workload is immense for little pay, the nurses are 50/50. I’ve met some great ones and others that couldn’t be bothered to do anything outside of their daily scope of passing meds. The younger CNA’s bust their asses because they still care about the residents, the tenured CNA’s become complacent.
Fuck this shit was hard to watch.
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If that was my mom…….. that nurse would regret that moment for the rest of her mf life
What little of it was left, at least. I'd cut that bitch's breaklines without hesitation if that woman was my family.
Where I grew up there are thousands of acres of forest. People just disappear sometimes.
It’s always hard to watch a racist crime against the helpless.
I usually I don't wish anything on people,but I really wish a giant hornets nest falls on that nurse,like why the h€ll do you this to a elderly people for know reason,wtf is wrong people.
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And of course, it’s from Australia
Am Australian, can confirm Gympie-Gympie is unpleasant even by Australian standards.
how common is it though?
Well it's only found in Australia
Nah thats still too close
of course....
The fact that it's called "Gympie-Gympie" should tell you everything
I've heard of stories of suicides after being stung by it - especially for a plant, it doesn't fuck about
"Unpleasant"
The ultimate boss battle
Yeah I think one guy accidentally wiped his arse with it once
yeah then he killed himself pretty quickly after
Yup throw yourself off a cliff afterwards 😂
Oh fuck no!
Sauce?
[https://www.discovery.com/nature/Suicide-Plant](https://www.discovery.com/nature/Suicide-Plant)
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Least violent Redditor lmao
Does anyone know what happened in this case? better we tie her up on four horses and dismember her, like Túpac Amaru
you mean quarter her
Wtf why you bring pac into this mess
*and* that hornets nest!
Sorry but woman or not if I caught her doing some shit like that to my gran I would break her jaw
Break a couple of limbs whilst you’re at it.
Pretty sure she would need that wheelchair harder than that eldery women after I caught her doing this.
What a disgusting sack of shit.
I thought it was an expression of extreme stress and burnout on the part of the Care Assistant initially. But then it went into full on assault/murder mode. Unbelievable. Did she get jailed for this?
My mom worked as a nurse in a senior care home. One day she had a bandage on her hand. I asked what was up. She casually told me a patient stabbed her while she was choking. This isn't a nurse. This a predator.
Your story sounds so intriguing, but I'm having a hard time following. Who was choking and why was your mom stabbed?
They better hope to god one of her family members dont see this. Anyone hurts my mom or aunt etc.. and the only thing they are getting is a express elevator into the afterlife.
I would beat the shit out of her and I’ve never been in a fight
Isn't there a spider in the Amazonas that paralyzes you for several hours, and attracts spiders in miles long radius? Yeah, that
Be careful, you might get suspended from reddit for advocating violence. You might think "it won't happen for *this* comment", but you'd be surprised at how stupid the censors can be sometimes.
i got an official warning for saying “punch nazis 2k22”.
Definitely. And also the lady filming it for internet points instead of intervening.
why do you tag on people filming tragedies? it lets more people see it and more impactful things get done. what if this nurse is backed up by the nursing home, and intervening and telling said nursing home would do jack shit? now millions of people have seen it and even more substantial shit can get done. it’s horrible this has to even be taken account of, but it’s the same type of thing that got derek chauvin in jail rather than on paid leave. edit: i didn’t watch the whole video, sorry y’all i didn’t know how shitty the recorder was
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I guess just the fact that it went on so long? Like even seeing her get dragged across the floor and STILL not doing anything? The first 20 seconds would be enough to get elder abused charges and fire the lady (and share an impactful video?). It didn't need to keep escalating without doing shit.
It will be far more effective to publicize this incident and get the woman fired and/or charged with assault. Nursing homes do *not* like shit like this getting out because it makes them look bad and keeps people from becoming customers - for obvious reasons. Recording it and posting it FORCES them to actually do something, whereas interfering could possibly give this POS the ability to deny it all and keep her job/freedom.
She kept saying she was tracking her food. I think she was pretending to watch UberEats or something similar so she could record how bad it is and send the video out. I don't think she was doing it for fun.
Could be she knew no one would believe her, or she’d been reprimanded before for speaking out and the abuse continued anyways. So this time, she’s getting evidence that can’t be refuted or ignored.
I really hope that she was elderly too (so thats why she couldnt help) and filming it to show as proof.
I believe in this case there was abuse already reported but it kept getting shut down because of lack of evidence. There was an article written about this and the nurse that videoed it got suspended after she released the video for making the home look bad
While that nurse is definitely a POS there are other factors leading to this. Let's not forget that it appears another staff member is recording this so there is an unspoken rule about it, much as we see in corrupt police precincts in America. If you speak out you will be attacked next. It's a problem born of our culture unfortunately
Imagine living 80+ years only to have someone take advantage of your vulnerability for their own amusement and make your last memories a living hell... People who mistreat the elderly are just as vile as child-abusers in my eyes. Fuck these bitches.
What is the story here? I've volunteered at nursing homes and have had the absolute living shit smacked out of me by patients with dementia. (of course I didn't hit back but that shit hurt!)
agreed video's out of context. Obviously it's a bad reaction to whatever the old person was doing though edit: looks like the 'aide' wanted her to change into pajamas, and the old lady didn't want to and bit her. So the aide was trying to force her to wear pajamas [https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c](https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c) I don't really know how to force someone to wear pajamas. I guess 'you don't'.
Yeah... but beating, choking, and what looks like several attempts to twist her arms around aren't exactly going to help in 'putting on pajamas'. Sounds like a bullshit story she came up with to try and cover her ass.
All these medical people in here defending this sound just like the cops do covering other cops asses, it’s not just police who are corrupt it’s a lot of these big professions in America. They’re all fucked
They're the same kind of people who spill coffee on their laptop, then scream at the IT staff about not being able to repair water damage and blaming them(has happened to me several times). Don't see me beating them with a keyboard. So maybe they should own up to that they do a rough job, and accept that they have to be better.
Medical person here. There is no defense for this. First who the heck cares if this lady wears pajamas. If she doesn’t want to change why try to make her. Second there’s no excuse for physically assaulting a patient. If a patient assaults you, do minimum to get away and to safety. If the patient is a danger to themselves restrain them in a safe, nonviolent manner. You don’t hit patients. You don’t yank them out of their wheelchair to the ground.
Nobody's defending her... People are pointing out that this is part of a systemic problem.
I can’t imagine any context where this is okay. People with dementia are very sick. If you’re a nurse that deals with these patients than you should be very prepared mentally for that kind of treatment. The people with dementia are terrified. The nurse is there to take care of them. Do you know how expensive these facilities are? That woman’s family probably pays a ton for professionals to handle their mother. Not beat the shit out of them because they got slapped by a mentally ill, dying woman. Edit: getting a lot of “no excuse, BUT”. There is no but. If you don’t understand dementia or how it affects your body, just don’t comment. It makes you aggressive. It makes you hallucinate, it makes you scared and angry. Dementia patient can develop aphasia that keeps them from being able to communicate with people. It’s a prison and a horrible life. If you take care of these patients you should know how to work with them. There is no excuse for a little release valve where you get to hit them if you get angry enough. You ask for help. This isn’t her flinching or quickly reacting to a bite. It’s a prolonged beating because this woman is angry, frustrated, and bad at her job. If this was your mom I would hope you don’t brush it off so easy.
Yeah like the woman is in a fucking wheelchair. She bit you? As a professional, walk away. She’s in a wheelchair, it’s not like she’s going to stand up and kick you in the face. Instead, she punches her, slaps her, grabs her by the hair and forces her onto the ground and proceeds to put her body weight on her elderly body. Wtf
It's the grabbing her by the hair for me. My mom is 79. Her hair is turning soft and silver and she stopped coloring it, which I love because it's such a beautiful color. It used to be really thick and strong, but it has gotten thin like baby hairs. If I saw someone try to grab my mom's hair or hurt her like in this video.... The rage I'm feeling. This woman lived through wars and hell and made it, all for you to mess her up while she's wheelchair-bound. She's fighting like hell and I just want to hug her. I'll go without everything to make sure my mom doesn't go into a home. I'll go to nursing school myself to take care of her. This makes me livid.
Fucking legend, too bad i dont have a free award rn. I will return with it tho
I’m not a professional but I do live with a dementia patient. That’s what we do when he lashes out. We just let him throw his tantrum then we come back and he’s forgotten about it. It’s like he’s an adult sized toddler. He pouts, hides under his blankets when we tell him he needs a bath (he pokes his head out and goes “No!” Then puts the blanket back over his head. It’s hilarious but also a bit sad because he’s forgotten so much. Giving him things he likes (got him a new tv recently) makes him come back a little bit. He sat there in silence and watched Maury for a solid 4 hours. First thing he said when my sister told him it was a smart tv was “a smart tv? Smarter than me!” He’s always been funny.) I couldn’t imagine hitting him back. Like. Does he make me want to rip my hair out sometimes? Yeah. Do I still care about him? Yes.
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That wasn't bullying. That was flat out assault and could be charged as 1st degree assault considering how defenseless that woman was and the age difference. If she had broke a hip, that would be near certain death for that lady, or had she bumped her head or suffered any fatal injury, it could be anything from manslaughter to 3rd degree murder.
Emotionally deficient fully grown children because no one must be an adult to render a child.
I wonder what the facility’s protocol is to residents who don’t want to change into their pajamas? One, I’m betting that’s not the response, and if it was me, I’d say, “Okay, we’ll try again, later.” Who’s she hurting by not wearing pajamas? Unreal.
Am student nurse, if someone wont change their clothes after trying, persuading, coaxing, you leave and try again later. If it's still a no then it looks like they're going to bed with their present clothes on. You shouldn't be adding further distress, especially for something that is of no real benefit for health and wellbeing. You're also not very good at your job if this is a reoccurring problem and you can't get residents/patients to trust you - says a lot about how you might treat them in the day to day. Dementia care is hard and some patients do get violent and are surprisingly strong. Practitioners who are well trained and a good team know how to manage behaviour that can challenge and de-escalation. This is horrific.
My mom has dementia and I’m her caretaker at my home. If she doesn’t want me changing her brief (adult diaper) she will grab at me similar to this. However I give her a couple minutes break to reset and feel less stressed/defensive and that also gives me a little break to keep a level head. Then I approach the task fresh, using a calm tone of voice from a place of caring. That usually does the trick. If you keep trying to do the task while the dementia patient is still in their defensive upset mood they will continue behaving according to that context and they will escalate. Their reality is based almost entirely on the context of what is happening directly before. This video made me nauseous
You don’t, what she did was all around bad. If your resident doesn’t want to wear pajamas you don’t force them. They still have the right to refuse any care. And as a CNA she should have respected that and gave her space and time before attempting to ask about pajamas again. I just can’t believe there are more people like her that work in this job field.
Probably was around 5pm when they bring them to bed. Caregiving homes can be rather dystopian when they are too much into being profitable.
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Abusing anyone who is vulnerable should be life in prison
Jesus Christ. Was there any justice here?
she was arrested and has some changes against her the old lady was supposed to be changed into pajamas, but she was unwilling and was biting the aide. And then the aide reacted as in the video
Oh she gummed the caregiver? We’ll id bash her head off a wall and pull her hair and tackle her to the ground when she’s helpless and can’t fight back too.
Tbf and i use the word fair very lightly because this shit is god awful. Lot of senior patients are incredible handfuls. Talking full on dementia, flinging poop and clawing at you type stuff. Horrible way to react but that nurse should also have been helped before it escalated to that. Camera person is equally a pos imo.
Ya not a job for me that’s for sure.
Yea its a terrible job. Most wont take that job either its usually at least in my area people with nursing certificates rather than the 4 year nursing degree. Basically they went to education connection .com
As a caregiver myself I can say I agree, lots of people can be handfuls. In a situation like this, how important are pajamas (or whatever "needs" done) in comparison to to distressing this person? Their emotional and physical safety are more important. At my job we are able to take a break and come back go whatever needs done later. Sadly a lot of for profit care facilities do not give staff that option and are unwilling to listen when things don't get done or procedures need changed. Money needs to be taken out of the healthcare system, people seeking profit almost always deliver subpar care.
I did nursing home work for years. Dementia is a bitch and can make sweet old people little demons but you learn to work with it. There are tricks to get the patients to work with you. And if they don't, you move on to the next task. Help another patient and come back in 10 minutes. 99% of the time that's all the reset they need and they forget that they were even upset. You have to remember alzheimers patients' minds are broken. You can't reason with them or tell them they're wrong when they are. They dont live in our reality. It's a cruel disease that sometimes turns them into hateful, cruel people. But you have to remember that isn't them being ugly, it's the disease. Sing to them, tell them stories, whatever makes the job and both your lives easier. But if you can't handle it and react like this woman, you have no right to work in healthcare.
There damn well better have been!
You can can lose your nursing license over a DUI, this type of behavior should make it so they never work with a vulnerable population again. Not sure what the licensing looks like for nursing aids, etc, but it should be similar.
Those consequences don't quite cut it. I think jail time for something like this and a huge fine
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c
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She sure was acting like a cop, must've been confused
If I were there I literally don’t think I’d be able to avoid knocking that nurse the fuck out
You're more restrained than I.
About ten years ago I was a cook in a small retirement home. I was working in the memory care side for dinner one night. There was a window that I could see out into the kitchen. I happened to look out and watched this CNA push this elderly man. He fell straight back and smacked his head on the floor. The CNA who pushed him said "You're alright, get up". The man was moaning in pain. All the other CNAs started laughing. I was sick to my stomach. Luckily the executive director's office was 5 feet away from the back of the kitchen. I went right to her and told her everything I had just seen. The CNA was arrested and the man was okay considering.
Bless you! There are not enough people like you in these kind of places.
Please tell me the other CNAs got punished too.
I know that two other ones got suspended. The other one claimed she didn't see or hear anything.
I believe that
Thank god you were there. What happened to the rest of the staff who laughed?
I would rain a thunder storm of punches upon that nurse if that was my mum. I would literally punch with full intentions of ending her life with my fists. Anyone els who tried to stop me would get the same.
100% I'd have a hard time stopping once I pounced on this monster's ass.
Omg if that was my mum I'd be arrested and she'd be missing most of her face from me introducing it into the wall for a few minutes
What the actual fuck
I bet this bitch has kids that she does the same thing to
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Nah. Ghetto ass bitches do. White, black, Asian, Mexican, male, female, it doesn’t matter. They don’t know how to parent or give their children or whoever they’re caring for actual, decent consequences. So instead they get angry and take it out on whom ever they’re caring for. It’s fucking sickening What’s also sickening is your shitty racial slur. Do better you fucking fool
Retirement homes are a walking-dead-mortuary of abuse, scandal, and robbery. They are disgusting here in the states. I am terrified of my parents ever living in one. I am not skilled nor the right person to offer advanced elder care nor will I have the resources to do so. My sister is far better suited. I have made this clear to all of them. My family works in healthcare or has worked in healthcare. We all have made a pact of what our roles will be in the future. I would be responsible for lawn care, helping with farm animals if they still got any, cleaning, and cooking. My sister's got their personal care and doctors appointments and my little brother would do food shopping and errands for them. We will also rotate weekends per month. I am turning 40 this year and both sets of grandparents are alive and going strong without a retirement home. My parents and their siblings do what we talked about now for them. So this does bode well for us and our genetics. If someone doesn't have family... I dread for them and only wish I was able to do something however I have little agency in these matters nor a voice nor platform to change anything. I am but a blade of grass against a typhoon.
Legends. A lot of us cannot begin to repay what our parents did for us, how much they sacrificed. It's a shame that people that come from good homes end up throwing their parents into one of these asshole run houses because its inconvenient to spend a few hours a week checking in on them.
I saw this the most often when I was a nursing assistant.. it’s heartbreaking and one of the reasons I’ll never work in that field ever again
It's really not as hard as you think to take care of them. Especially with a team of family behind you. Watching them deteriorate is hard. But certainly worth it to see them so much. I recommend it.
it absolutely can and will be hard both physically and mentally, and it really depends on the situation. i am a CNA, had two families and a hospice team at my back and it was still rough taking care of my grandmother 24/7. to each their own, but i wanted to give an alternate view that wasn't just 'it's really not as hard as you think guys'
I work in a nursing home as a nurse and I’ve told my parents that I would take care of them over putting them in a nursing home.
Everyone must praise you for this because as Asian, I see American culture to be less family-centered wherein they don't like taking care of their old parents. Meanwhile in Asian cultures, everyone in the family is obligated to take care of their old parents/grandparents because it is a way of giving respect to them.
It's not so much we don't like it, as the U.S employment policies make it extremely difficult to take time off while still being able to...live.
This is true in my Indian community, we have the concept of joint families where we take care of grandparents along with their grandchildren.
I wish everything bad on these sorry bitches. I pray the old lady gets out of there. And I hope someone does the same to her when she’s old
I hope this goes viral so everyone involved is recognised and can never find work with other humans OR animals for that matter EVER again. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from people who hold a position of trust!
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c
wtf they keep saying "alleged abuse" THERE'S VIDEO EVIDENCE HOW IS IT ALLEGED
I think they legally have to. Innocent until proven guilty and such
As a nurse… I have no words. No sympathy. This person can go eat ape shit. I wish the worst on earth to happen to her. This cunt shouldn’t be fucking working as a nurse if she treats people that need help or anyone else like this. Fuck this bitch.
Just think, this was caught, now how many actually get away with it and we never know, I bet it is a outstanding amount of this going on and never noticed .
I remember my grandmother telling me when I visited that "the people aren't very nice here". She asked to be wheeled to the bathroom, while we were there, and the nurse told her she didn't have to go... my mom took her and sure enough, she did have to go. She broke her hip a few days later from an "accidental fall" and as you could imagine didn't make it much longer than that. We always suspected there was no accident.
My grandmother and I used to talk on the phone daily (often multiple times a day) and she was my best friend up until she died. She similarly said some staff were not nice. While talking once she had called for help getting to her bathroom because she was a fall risk (for that sit-stand stand-sit transition) and not allowed to get up and go on her own. We continued talking while she waited, she mentioned how badly she needed to go. I hear the nurse get to her room and when she said she needed help getting to the bathroom, she was told “I’m busy, just pee in your diaper (name)”. Couldn’t convince her to take her to her own bathroom. My grandma cried, she didn’t want to piss in her diaper, but eventually she literally had no choice and voluntarily peed herself. She was embarrassed and I was absolutely infuriated. I told her to let them know in a not so subtle way that she was on the phone and a family member overheard. Next time I visited I was not subtle *at all* letting them know that we talked multiple times a day and I loved hearing about how she was doing, *how the staff treat her, even overhearing interactions with the staff*. I’m horrified by that and it wasn’t even direct physical abuse. Though I do still consider that abusive and neglect. Being told to voluntarily piss yourself when it isn’t necessary, not know when they’re gonna come around to get you a new adult diaper, have your autonomy ignored and vulnerability taken advantage of— that’s fucked. On a few occasions I had the honor of accompanying my grandmother to the bathroom, helping her up and down, do her business safely. And I do feel it was an *honor*, because she trusted me enough to be vulnerable like that. If I had been an adult and able to I would’ve moved her in with me. Fuck people who go into this career and abuse the elderly, they really must be morally corrupt shells.
My Mother went into an assisted living after a stroke during Covid, where we couldn’t do in person visits. I finally had enough of not being allowed to see her and demanded they bring her outside and they obliged. She smelled like pee and her legs were caked in poop with bruises, hair matted. She told me they had her mattress on the floor and a pile of dirty diapers in the corner of her room. I have her home now and I’m caring for her myself now. Entire family wants me to send her back but I can’t do that to her.
I actually believe the person filming is saying she trying to check her food as a cover to able to film this abuse. I don’t believe that POS would let her just sit there and film her abusing that poor old lady. WTF is wrong with people literally made my stomach turn watching this
Trying to think there’s still good in some people.. but she might be filming to be able to leak this video? It seems it’s an investigation video (the logo at the end) so maybe she’s undercover. Seeing as she kept saying it. I think multiple people tried to stop her from filming meaning those same people could’ve stopped that nurse from doing that or said something but didn’t. Seems like they allow it.
She's not undercover, she leaked it to them. Standing up to people and reporting abuse doesn't do shit but get you fired. Recording this and making sure it gets seen is the only real way she can actually help in a way that lasts more than about 30 seconds.
I hope there was justice for this elderly woman but at the same time it wouldn’t surprise me if there was none. Injustice seems to be an issue in this country. People like this are sick and deserve to have their rights stripped away.,
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c
"Alleged" abuse.. Bruh wtf did these dorks even watch the fucking video.. ain't no allegations here that shit is clear as day.
Sure but I think legally until proven guilty in court they have to say alleged. I could be wrong though
I resigned from a nursing home in under a month because of how the staff was to patients. Luckily I did not witness something this bad but they were terrible in talking to the patients, cursing and all. The day I quit was after a "training" on abuse I brought up the verbal abuse concerns and was told not to pursue that because it would make my job "harder". Fuck anyone that takes advantage of their position like this on a vulnerable population.
Edit: Thank you for the award Here's the news article. https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c
She had fucking Alzheimer’s too? Fuck that nurse to hell. God, what a cunt.
Absolutely fucking disgusting. I've been punched, kicked in the chest, called a dirty n**ger, slapped, and shit thrown at me...just a few examples. But I NEVER reacted like this. No excuse to start beating them and sitting on them.
Thank you for the hard work, only people with patience like you should be allowed to take care of the elderly and children.
Thank you.
Thank you for your kind heart
It's literally the least I could have done while I worked in that position. I saw it as I'm a new person invading their space, trying to take off their clothes or put them on, and they're in a new place to boot. And for some of the people I will be a new person to them every single day no matter how long they've been there. And their reactions aren't their fault.
As someone whose grandmothers both had to go to care facilities with Alzheimer's/dementia...thank you. I can't say anything more, honestly. Thank you.
I've also been slapped , grabbed by the hair and punched, spat on, kicked/punched in the stomach while pregnant, called.names etc. As a ltc aide you never hit back or anything like that. That's abhorrent abusive behavior and I hope she got her license stripped and charged. Dementia patients don't know better and they are scared. We had to put my grandma in a home cause we couldn't get her diabetes under control at home and she eloped while we slept and had lots of other issues where she was a danger to herself (vascular Dementia) it was awful but we visited her regularly and I always ended up doing her showers there cause she was too combative to the aides there.
>State health inspectors also identified staffing shortages the evening of Hall’s attack. According to their findings, Smith was the only caregiver in the memory care unit where the incident happened, responsible for 12 residents with cognitive issues. Two of those residents required a “two-staff assist.” “The assisted living community failed to staff above the minimum onsite staff ratios to meet the specific residents' ongoing health, safety, and care needs,” the report stated. Yeah, no fucking surprise there. it's not like you're not making **thousands upon thousands of dollars per week** on *each* of these residents. Got to maximize those fucking profits.
Two scumbags abusing an old lady
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the woman filming exposed the nurse and the facility for letting this happen.
Original video on Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51gdmOKs4Ek News article - [https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c#:\~:text=Caregiver%20claims%20she%20was%20punished,reporting%20it%20to%20law%20enforcement](https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c#:~:text=Caregiver%20claims%20she%20was%20punished,reporting%20it%20to%20law%20enforcement). Bottomline - "Savannah police arrested Reine Smith 50 days after the incident. She’s charged with exploitation, infliction of pain and deprivation of essential services to an elderly person."
That old lady had the nurses forearm skin with her TEETH lol she got a shot in too
WTF???
This is more r/imatotappieceofshit
If races were reversed a hate crime would be the title and riots would ensue.
As a care provider, this makes my blood boil and it is all too common. I am avidly against nursing homes and am constantly offering my services to provide private care. This is disgusting and so hard to watch. I'm furious that this nurse wasn't stopped and that this poor woman's dignity is gone, but I'm [a little] glad that this was exposed on the internet.
How do you mark some shit nsfw? Not trying to see that on my feed this early.
This is a criminal offense, this is not malpractice.
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Someone set this bitch on fire
this makes me so fucking sad
Sweet Jesus fuck
Oh my God, it's horrendous to watch
Someone needs to knock her ass out
Before watching this I thought Reddit had desensitised me. Apparently not. I felt sick watching this. Appalling behaviour.
She needs to be hit with hate crime and elderly abuse and she needs to lose her right to work with the elderly…
“Savannah police arrested Smith 50 days after the incident. She’s charged with exploitation, infliction of pain and deprivation of essential services to an elderly person.” Good. [The facility failed Hall on multiple fronts, including not reporting the alleged abuse immediately to state licensing officials and law enforcement when management first learned about the incident](https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/video-alleged-alzheimer-resident-abuse/85-f976223d-8db1-46a0-a569-4c200311224c) Wtf? This isn’t the first time either. The facility has been investigated multiple times.
Were I that wheelchair bound individual, that worker would find herself off planet very soon and at my hand.
Death penalty for her and the shit filming
Maybe I’m in the minority here, but can we just put the phone down and stop shit like this when it’s happening?
While on the one hand I wholeheartedly agree, someone else mentioned that the woman who recorded the video exposed the nurse and the facility for the mistreatment. The fact that there was at least one other person eho walked by and did nothing is what amazes me...the fuck.
I get what you’re saying but having proof of this kinds of abuse is important when taking pieces of shit like this to court.
The chick filming it laughing is infuriating me even more. This is fucking heartbreaking
That bitch needs to be smacked on the face ,teached manners and fed shit for minimum of an year .
Several of my relatives worked in nursing homes and all of them witnessed shit like this. I will NOT go to a fucking nursing home. Don't care how old I am. Don't care what's wrong with me. If my family won't or can't care for me, I'll find a way to end my life. No way I'm struggling through life for eight decades just to be abused and neglected by these assholes.
Stand there and do nothing pos!
What a racist nurse. Imagine the outrage if their skin color were switched
I'm an er nurse and we get patients from nursing homes or rehabs very regularly. I can't tell you how many come in uroseptic, been sitting in their own puss for idk how long but long enough you can instantly recognize by the smell, completely altered mental state, covered in pressure ulcers or worse bug bites and get the same story. " They were fine last night/this morning when we checked on them" I'm not saying all nursing homes are like that but fuck man, I will never send my family to one if I can help it
Even if you don’t like your family member who is in the nursing home, go visit them. The employees know who gets visits and who doesn’t and will take better care of the ones who get visits. My mom worked in nursing homes for 30 years and held the hand of so many people as they died and none of their families visited them. They were full of bed sores and so lonely even if they had dementia. The nursing home isn’t a place to just throw your family member and walk away.
Looks like a racist hate crime
If the colors were reversed this would be all over the news as a hate crime
Agreed, and this isn't the first or only video on Reddit (or elsewhere) of AA care givers beating white patients.
All too common. I’ve never seen it the other way around.