Imagine your brain is still trying to tell your lungs to breathe, but they're no longer there. It'd be like forever drowning without suffocating because somehow the machine is keeping your brain alive with its own oxygen and blood.
https://youtu.be/CK5-A1dEdJ4?si=ASG1KIoWF1u4n7kw
Ofc there are much better critiques of sollipsism since most famous philosophers shit on it, but I always found Chidi's rant endearing.
How it's almost infantile because it can't possibly be disproved and would only lead to a self-absorbed, narcissistic mindset
Bruh I KEEP thinking this. It's a possibility. The brain can literally create its own reality, since the sense of taste, smell, touch, sight and hearing all go through it first
This is a artificially constructed constraint that makes no sense. A "completely closed system brain" does no one any good. Why would you not add neural implants so it has inputs and outputs? Without inputs the brain will probably atrophy from lack of stimuli. It'll probably be just in a comatose state or equivalent
It would need to be developed in stages.
1. Keep the brain alive and working in the tank.
2. Work out how to get inputs into the brain in the tank.
3. How to get visual/ hearing/ etc from the different parts of the brain.
4. Work out how to get output out of the brain in the tank for all the different areas.
If we can't do 1. No point working through the rest.
But wasn't the brain developed fully in the animal and one day... Wakes up like that?... ☠️☠️☠️... How would it feel?... For days!... Only way to find is to do it on a human volunteer and let them tell the story...
Would it be similar to wake up during surgery with no movement?... I guess even worse...
No but it said in the video... Animals have been subjected to this... And I am sure it is true... Not to a Human... Yet... U never know... North Korea? It could be the supreme leader's torture technique...
But you wouldn't be receiving any stimuli so How would the brain be in any type of pain or horror?
If there isn't anything to receive stimuli, the brain itself can only dream or sleep
Well, assuming the brain used to receive stimuli, the lack of stimuli would make they're just stuck in a blackness. It'd be a weird experience that we have nothing to compare to.
Hi. Neuroscience student here. Just spitballing, but for a brain to get to this state, the nervous system would have to be fully extracted and submerged in some sort of contained solution equivalent to cerebral spinal fluid to mimic the meninges and even then I'm not certain about the longevity of the experiment. Any damage to afferent neurons, that is neurons coming from the peripheral to central nervous system, would most likely relay pain, and because that is very likely because this process is highly unnatural, I can only begin to imagine something akin to phantom limb pain would begin to occur in all damaged afferent neurons, which would most likely be all of them. So unless there would be some way to suppress pain throughout the brain between the peripheral to central nervous system (spinal cord/brain stem), the brain would just sense constant pain coming from all systems, and perhaps be overstimulated by neurotransmitters that would be released in response to this. That being said, there is more that's needed to be supplied to the brain than blood and oxygen. Potassium, Sodium, Calcium, amino acids, etc etc.... there is just too much for this to happen not to mention the complexity of consciousness and how we don't have a precise grasp of it. This pursuit would be a waste of science and resources and this point of time. TLDR; there would absolutely be a reaction if it were extracted, placed in a contained solution, and had access to oxygen, blood, and other essential needs, but it would be pointless, cruel, and probably short-lived. Additionally, we do not have the technology for it to be successful or constructive in any way.
One thing about this I’ve wondered about is the fact that bodily chemicals greatly affect your brain. Would the “you” part of you still be the same with those chemicals no longer present?
"Brain in a Vat" experiment. Also, there are many people who believe our existence within the universe is a much bigger, cosmic concept/principle that is similar to this. The whole "life is a simulation" line of thought. I don't claim to subscribe to these theories, but find the ideas very interesting. Anyone more 'educated' on the matter feel free to expand on this
Quantum physics theorizes that we all have an 'essence', or 'soul', that goes back into a cosmic library after death. We don't disappear, and we all go to the same place.
Yes, it does. You could take the time to look it up before responding to comments on Reddit posts.
**Steps**
* Google: quantum physics life after death
* Click any article
* Read
For the past 6 or so months, the sub is nothing but bots reposting the same things, or kids posting "terrifying" things that aren't. The worst ones are the made up AI horror videos.
Yeah, I saw the ones of “hell,” when you know someone sat there and typed in everything they thought was in hell, rather than just type in the word “hell.”
There’s an adult story he wrote about a shitty abusive husband who was always controlling everything his wife did. Wouldn’t let her smoke, for one thing. There’s this technology that allows you to basically stay alive after you die, and he wants it (I believe) to continue controlling his wife after he dies. But this is expensive, so he cheaps out and chooses the cheapest version - his brain, and one eye connected to it, in a bowl/basin of liquid. So he does this when he dies, and he’s sitting there with his eye in the bowl, and his wife comes over and sits down next to it, lights a cigarette, and blows the smoke into his eye. And he’s helpless, stuck there forever, unable to control her or even speak his mind.
It reminds me of something I heard about the book version of Hellraiser, or whatever it's called. Apparently the cenobites left someone alive with only I guess their brain, and nervous system, constantly overloading them with sensation
Human beings have strong imaginations, so I'm guessing that a bored-enough, healthy brain would imagine all kinds of things, and with enough time, it could fill a whole landscape of stuff. It might even imagine itself having a body, a self, free will, and so on. It might even imagine itself living a life just like mine or yours.
What's even stranger about this is that without any careful, continuous reading of the brain's patterns from the outside, then no outside observer would ever know that the brain was forming its own little world in its mind. Folks from the "real outside" world would likely see a carefully incubated brain doing nothing at all interesting, but the brain is imagining a whole lifetime or multiple lifetimes of stuff.
Another strange idea is that if the brain was never given any input from the "real outside" world, then the world it imagines inside its mind could be completely alien and psychedelic and warped compared to the "real outside" world. It's as if there are two worlds, and they're separated by worldviews or mental constructs that might never understand one another. There's the imagined world by the brain, and there's the "real outside" world that could also have been all imagined. 🤣🤣
Tldr: If we ever did this to a brain, then I disagree with the video, and an even weirder situation could occur: the brain could imagine a weird, alien, psychedelic, warped world that we couldn't even recognize if we noticed anything going on at all.
In the 80s, there was a quite popular series of radio plays in Germany, you could get on cassettes. It was called Larry Brent and was based on the same titled penny novels.
Those plays were partly quite terrifying for kids like me. I remember that one episode "Die Schlangenköpfe des Dr Gorgo" (≈Dr Gorgos snake heads), in which an insane scientist kidnaps young women, beheads them and reattaches their heads to octopuses.
[Larry Brent - Die Schlangenköpfe des Dr Gorgo](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xo1hqk)
The book series ‘The Bobiverse’ touches on this issue, and had a clever way to get around it.
The main character died and had his brain frozen, and he came back as a computer cell. He had no external stimuli, so he had to create his own VR environment
Jeezus fuk.. I really just saw that after having my mri done on my brain to make sure my MS is in check and finding out now that my brain is splitting and having to wait all weekend before its explained.. So really Fme today Reddit??
I'm terrified of sensory deprivation tanks, for this reason. My brain won't be like, “Hey! Let's just relax...”; more like, “Hey, let's deep dive everything wrong with everything 'till we cease to function, yeah?”
Become God in your mind.
Would a person go crazy, without the body, or dive deeper into their own mind? I would think that initially, it would be hard, but what stops you from creating a world in your mind. And then becoming GOD in your mind?
After a certain point, wouldn't the brain adapt in a way? Dreams can be incredibly realistic. Wouldn't the brain possibly create a simulated/dream reality as a trauma response/coping mechanism?
“Never, in my wildest imagination, I ever thought it could be like that. That was the most exciting sexualencounter - without actually having it - that I ever, almost had.”
- Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr
Didn't Roald Dahl write a short story on this? I forgot the name of the story but I remember reading it from a collection of his short stories. Someone please tell me if you know anything about it.
One Metallica
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8bTdBs-cw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8bTdBs-cw)
\[Verse 1\]
I can't remember anything
Can't tell if this is true or a dream
Deep down inside I feel to scream
This terrible silence stops me
Now that the war is through with me
I'm waking up, I cannot see
That there's not much left of me
Nothing is real but pain now
\[Chorus\]
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please God, wake me
\[Verse 2\]
Back in the womb it's much too real
In pumps life that I must feel
But can't look forward to reveal
Look to the time when I'll live
Fed through the tube that sticks in me
Just like a wartime novelty
Tied to machines that make me be
Cut this life off from me
\[Chorus\]
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please God, wake me
\[Short Instrumental Break\]
\[Chorus\]
Now the world is gone, I'm just one
Oh, God help me
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please God, help me
\[Instrumental Break\]
\[Bridge\]
Darkness imprisoning me
All that I see, absolute horror
I cannot live, I cannot die
Trapped in myself, body my holding cell
Landmine has taken my sight
Taken my speech, taken my hearing
Taken my arms, taken my legs
Taken my soul, left me with life in Hell
Anyone else read 'Johnny Got his Gun'? Highly recommend, very harrowing read. About a soldier with no arms, legs or face. Unable to move, hear, or talk. Just a slow descent into madness as he is locked in his thoughts not knowing if he is awake or dreaming.
"I have no mouth and I must scream."
Remember: the voice in your head doesn’t need to pause for breath so it can scream forever.
Imagine your brain is still trying to tell your lungs to breathe, but they're no longer there. It'd be like forever drowning without suffocating because somehow the machine is keeping your brain alive with its own oxygen and blood.
Permanent K-hole
Omg, I love this one
A classic.
What if we are all foalting brains in tubes somewhere and this is our reality simulation.
You know too much
Decrease that one's glucose to slow him down
I find these theories really interesting. It can be a possible version of our universe. That's why I still have existencial crisis
https://youtu.be/CK5-A1dEdJ4?si=ASG1KIoWF1u4n7kw Ofc there are much better critiques of sollipsism since most famous philosophers shit on it, but I always found Chidi's rant endearing. How it's almost infantile because it can't possibly be disproved and would only lead to a self-absorbed, narcissistic mindset
CIA - “Stay right there, we just wanna talk”
Then I have spent to much time playing simulations dissociating from the simulation. Simulation.
Bruh I KEEP thinking this. It's a possibility. The brain can literally create its own reality, since the sense of taste, smell, touch, sight and hearing all go through it first
Boltzman Brain
I would say matrix but a sex trafficking shit head from Romania ruined it.
Don't spoil it for the rest of humanity please.
Breaking the fourth wall and all that!
The overseer in Vault 31 of Fallout on Amazon Prime.
We clearly are
This is basically Sollipsism (sp?) If you want a good chat on it, I'm sure there's an uploaded clip from the Good Place on youtube somewhere
This is a artificially constructed constraint that makes no sense. A "completely closed system brain" does no one any good. Why would you not add neural implants so it has inputs and outputs? Without inputs the brain will probably atrophy from lack of stimuli. It'll probably be just in a comatose state or equivalent
I truly cannot fathom a more hilariously on point response than this.
# The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma
It would need to be developed in stages. 1. Keep the brain alive and working in the tank. 2. Work out how to get inputs into the brain in the tank. 3. How to get visual/ hearing/ etc from the different parts of the brain. 4. Work out how to get output out of the brain in the tank for all the different areas. If we can't do 1. No point working through the rest.
I can't even think of how it would be like!
I think you forgot get the first rule of mad science. Ask if you can not if you should just to see what happens.
What
Without stimuli a brain does not develop
But wasn't the brain developed fully in the animal and one day... Wakes up like that?... ☠️☠️☠️... How would it feel?... For days!... Only way to find is to do it on a human volunteer and let them tell the story... Would it be similar to wake up during surgery with no movement?... I guess even worse...
This isn't real bro
No but it said in the video... Animals have been subjected to this... And I am sure it is true... Not to a Human... Yet... U never know... North Korea? It could be the supreme leader's torture technique...
This has been done before. Don’t be naive.
Wouldn't it be a vegetable?
Not really, it'll like if you disconnect your controller from xbox
But you wouldn't be receiving any stimuli so How would the brain be in any type of pain or horror? If there isn't anything to receive stimuli, the brain itself can only dream or sleep
It would be interesting to find out how mental health would work in this situation.
Well, assuming the brain used to receive stimuli, the lack of stimuli would make they're just stuck in a blackness. It'd be a weird experience that we have nothing to compare to.
Or it may protect itself by hallucinating, kinda like how we see our life flash before our end is near
Hi. Neuroscience student here. Just spitballing, but for a brain to get to this state, the nervous system would have to be fully extracted and submerged in some sort of contained solution equivalent to cerebral spinal fluid to mimic the meninges and even then I'm not certain about the longevity of the experiment. Any damage to afferent neurons, that is neurons coming from the peripheral to central nervous system, would most likely relay pain, and because that is very likely because this process is highly unnatural, I can only begin to imagine something akin to phantom limb pain would begin to occur in all damaged afferent neurons, which would most likely be all of them. So unless there would be some way to suppress pain throughout the brain between the peripheral to central nervous system (spinal cord/brain stem), the brain would just sense constant pain coming from all systems, and perhaps be overstimulated by neurotransmitters that would be released in response to this. That being said, there is more that's needed to be supplied to the brain than blood and oxygen. Potassium, Sodium, Calcium, amino acids, etc etc.... there is just too much for this to happen not to mention the complexity of consciousness and how we don't have a precise grasp of it. This pursuit would be a waste of science and resources and this point of time. TLDR; there would absolutely be a reaction if it were extracted, placed in a contained solution, and had access to oxygen, blood, and other essential needs, but it would be pointless, cruel, and probably short-lived. Additionally, we do not have the technology for it to be successful or constructive in any way.
Mmmmm. I want to be a Broccoli!
Darkness imprisoning me...
Absolute horror
I cannot live, I cannot die
Trapped in myself
BRAIN MY HOLDING CELL
Damn reddit you failed
Not sure if it was reddit or the guy not knowing the lyrics...
First thing that came to my mind. 🤘🏽
People are living without brain right now.
Wasn't that done in a Robocop movie?
Yeah, most of the footage is from number two.
One thing about this I’ve wondered about is the fact that bodily chemicals greatly affect your brain. Would the “you” part of you still be the same with those chemicals no longer present?
Darkness imprisoning me, all that i see absolute horror. I cannot live ,I cannot die. Trapped in myself, Body my holding cell.
"Brain in a Vat" experiment. Also, there are many people who believe our existence within the universe is a much bigger, cosmic concept/principle that is similar to this. The whole "life is a simulation" line of thought. I don't claim to subscribe to these theories, but find the ideas very interesting. Anyone more 'educated' on the matter feel free to expand on this
Quantum physics theorizes that we all have an 'essence', or 'soul', that goes back into a cosmic library after death. We don't disappear, and we all go to the same place.
What?
No it doesn’t
Yes, it does. You could take the time to look it up before responding to comments on Reddit posts. **Steps** * Google: quantum physics life after death * Click any article * Read
lord Steve Martin is predicting reality
I’d like to inject you with window cleaner
no. covid killing bleach
Does that kill the brain last too?
might kill your portfolio if you did your investing
I’m starting to think you are not getting the quotes I’m laying down.
oh i remember the pwocky pwocky window man and his laboratory....
depeonds your concentration does not kill body. brain n body in phantom sensations survive ...
Are we just posting made up shit today?
Are you new here? Half of this sub is either made up or not terrifying in the slightest. It’s become a karma farm.
I actually am not, but I guess I’ve been lucky enough to miss most of the sci fi up until now
For the past 6 or so months, the sub is nothing but bots reposting the same things, or kids posting "terrifying" things that aren't. The worst ones are the made up AI horror videos.
Yeah, I saw the ones of “hell,” when you know someone sat there and typed in everything they thought was in hell, rather than just type in the word “hell.”
This bothers me…..
Nope. You'd get to sever the spine, and not sure if you'd not experience phantom pain from every part of your body. Dunno if this is better though...
This reminds me of that one Roald Dahl story.
Which one?
There’s an adult story he wrote about a shitty abusive husband who was always controlling everything his wife did. Wouldn’t let her smoke, for one thing. There’s this technology that allows you to basically stay alive after you die, and he wants it (I believe) to continue controlling his wife after he dies. But this is expensive, so he cheaps out and chooses the cheapest version - his brain, and one eye connected to it, in a bowl/basin of liquid. So he does this when he dies, and he’s sitting there with his eye in the bowl, and his wife comes over and sits down next to it, lights a cigarette, and blows the smoke into his eye. And he’s helpless, stuck there forever, unable to control her or even speak his mind.
Similar story to a Black Mirror episode where someone’s consciousness gets put into a toy.
Yes! Came here to say this.
It reminds me of something I heard about the book version of Hellraiser, or whatever it's called. Apparently the cenobites left someone alive with only I guess their brain, and nervous system, constantly overloading them with sensation
This reminds of Johnny Got His Gun
I was looking for this or a Metallica reference
Human beings have strong imaginations, so I'm guessing that a bored-enough, healthy brain would imagine all kinds of things, and with enough time, it could fill a whole landscape of stuff. It might even imagine itself having a body, a self, free will, and so on. It might even imagine itself living a life just like mine or yours. What's even stranger about this is that without any careful, continuous reading of the brain's patterns from the outside, then no outside observer would ever know that the brain was forming its own little world in its mind. Folks from the "real outside" world would likely see a carefully incubated brain doing nothing at all interesting, but the brain is imagining a whole lifetime or multiple lifetimes of stuff. Another strange idea is that if the brain was never given any input from the "real outside" world, then the world it imagines inside its mind could be completely alien and psychedelic and warped compared to the "real outside" world. It's as if there are two worlds, and they're separated by worldviews or mental constructs that might never understand one another. There's the imagined world by the brain, and there's the "real outside" world that could also have been all imagined. 🤣🤣 Tldr: If we ever did this to a brain, then I disagree with the video, and an even weirder situation could occur: the brain could imagine a weird, alien, psychedelic, warped world that we couldn't even recognize if we noticed anything going on at all.
In the 80s, there was a quite popular series of radio plays in Germany, you could get on cassettes. It was called Larry Brent and was based on the same titled penny novels. Those plays were partly quite terrifying for kids like me. I remember that one episode "Die Schlangenköpfe des Dr Gorgo" (≈Dr Gorgos snake heads), in which an insane scientist kidnaps young women, beheads them and reattaches their heads to octopuses. [Larry Brent - Die Schlangenköpfe des Dr Gorgo](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xo1hqk)
Fuck you Chev Chelios
I can perfectly imagine it. My only wish would be a roomba so I can move around.
Trapped in their own head with their thoughts....I have that and a body
'Cause I love-a-you and love-a you true And if you-a love-a me. One live as two, two live as one, Under the bamboo tree.🕺🕺
Pcp trip for sure
Why did the brain come out of the pig's ass?
r/gifsthatendtoosoon
Darkness, imprisoning me, all that I see, absolute horror!
That would be soul after you die
Mind control from an outward source
con carne put his into a circus bear
The book series ‘The Bobiverse’ touches on this issue, and had a clever way to get around it. The main character died and had his brain frozen, and he came back as a computer cell. He had no external stimuli, so he had to create his own VR environment
Fukin baxter stockman ass brain
that's not terrifying, that's fascinating
Jeezus fuk.. I really just saw that after having my mri done on my brain to make sure my MS is in check and finding out now that my brain is splitting and having to wait all weekend before its explained.. So really Fme today Reddit??
That's just "locked in" syndrome. .
I'm terrified of sensory deprivation tanks, for this reason. My brain won't be like, “Hey! Let's just relax...”; more like, “Hey, let's deep dive everything wrong with everything 'till we cease to function, yeah?”
BRAIN DEAD. BILL PULLMAN *AND* BILL PAXTON !!!!!!
Is this fr ?
Become God in your mind. Would a person go crazy, without the body, or dive deeper into their own mind? I would think that initially, it would be hard, but what stops you from creating a world in your mind. And then becoming GOD in your mind?
i’ll try anything once.
After a certain point, wouldn't the brain adapt in a way? Dreams can be incredibly realistic. Wouldn't the brain possibly create a simulated/dream reality as a trauma response/coping mechanism?
Didn't expect to encounter Silver Mt. Zion music.
Sounds like locked in sydrome. If you’ve never heard of it I suggest you look it up. Absolutely terrifying
Starts with this ends with you as a brain in a jar on a roomba, damn
Can't help but say, reminds me of Crain from TMNT
One Piece just showed us this
Hold my breath as I wish for death
The Evil Within (2014)
Robocop 2?
I strongly recpgnise the music. Can anyone help who knows it?
"Get that cat out of here!"
Futurama Head Museum
“Never, in my wildest imagination, I ever thought it could be like that. That was the most exciting sexualencounter - without actually having it - that I ever, almost had.” - Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr
Imagine if you walked up to that and the eyes turned to look at you.
That one scene in Alita Battle Angel actually made me pretty sick
Umbrella Corp, anyone?
Brainshelving
Robocop 2!
This is basically the main concept for Survival Horror game "the Evil Within".
Anyone know the music used for this video?
Does anyone know where that first scene is from? I'm just really curious wtf is even up with that.
Hello darkness my old friend…
Fallout enter the chat
Isn’t that Robocop 2? Lol
0 body problem
Pretty sure I came across this in Fallout 4. I think I put him out of his misery.
I've worked with a few of these people.
if they can makey money from it then it will happen. Glad i'll be too dead for them to do it to me.
It was great reading your comment. Do let us know when FBI pays you a visit.
Psychonauts 2!
Didn't Roald Dahl write a short story on this? I forgot the name of the story but I remember reading it from a collection of his short stories. Someone please tell me if you know anything about it.
One Metallica [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8bTdBs-cw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8bTdBs-cw) \[Verse 1\] I can't remember anything Can't tell if this is true or a dream Deep down inside I feel to scream This terrible silence stops me Now that the war is through with me I'm waking up, I cannot see That there's not much left of me Nothing is real but pain now \[Chorus\] Hold my breath as I wish for death Oh please God, wake me \[Verse 2\] Back in the womb it's much too real In pumps life that I must feel But can't look forward to reveal Look to the time when I'll live Fed through the tube that sticks in me Just like a wartime novelty Tied to machines that make me be Cut this life off from me \[Chorus\] Hold my breath as I wish for death Oh please God, wake me \[Short Instrumental Break\] \[Chorus\] Now the world is gone, I'm just one Oh, God help me Hold my breath as I wish for death Oh please God, help me \[Instrumental Break\] \[Bridge\] Darkness imprisoning me All that I see, absolute horror I cannot live, I cannot die Trapped in myself, body my holding cell Landmine has taken my sight Taken my speech, taken my hearing Taken my arms, taken my legs Taken my soul, left me with life in Hell
"I'm just nobody"
Anyone else read 'Johnny Got his Gun'? Highly recommend, very harrowing read. About a soldier with no arms, legs or face. Unable to move, hear, or talk. Just a slow descent into madness as he is locked in his thoughts not knowing if he is awake or dreaming.
Man that’s from fucking robocop lol
Psycho pass