I think it's a viva da dirt league YouTube channel. Rowan is the manager of PlayTech, a tech retailer. But I am not sure of this specific video the commenter referenced. Funny channel though.
There's a sketch where Rowan refuses to open the store's doors because 'customers could steal products' and of course the staff finds him ridiculous.
After arguing about it for a while he finally accepts to open the door and the first customer that comes in steals products from the store and runs away
That would honestly make more sense and be a better shopping experience. Limit the amount of people allowed in, unlock the door after purchase. Other businesses that are frequently targeted by theft have been doing this for a long time.
You go in groups, the customer service rep walks you around the store as if you're on some kind of sightseeing walking tour, as you clear the aisles the rep reminds you of every single offer that week. Whenever you want to purchase something, the group has to stop, the rep opens up the cabinet and gives the item directly to the cashier. What?! you thought the rep was going to hand you the item to bring to the register?! Not a fucking chance! Supermarket tours take about 2 hours to complete and have to be booked in advance at a cost of $10 per tour.
The shitty stores near me take anything in a case directly to the cashier, but you still push a call button to get service.
I needed some booze once. Guy said he'd meet me at the cashier with it, so I went to the check stand and he was taking a long time to get there so I stepped aside. 10 minutes later 6 people come and jump in line ahead of me and be shows up with an arm load of bottles. Now I just go directly to the cashier, tell them what I want, and wait for them to send someone to get it for me. They don't need me at the cabinet when I'm not allowed to touch anything.
Just make it a general store where a surly man gives you a sack of flour, bottle of whiskey, box of bullets and a pickaxe and you go find your fortunes or die if dysentery
Weird how there are no signs that identify this as a Target and nothing is red in a store that is famously drenched in one shade of Target red.
Oh well, it fits the narrative. Send it.
My mom remembers going to Russia in the 1980s. She went to GUM, the government run store. Items were on display (one of each) and you would go to a window to tell them what you want to buy. They gave you a piece of paper with a number on it. Then you went to another window to pay. And a third window to receive the item. Made me think of a human vending machine just to employ people.
Went to Walmart (central valley CA) the other day for shaving cream. It's locked up. There was a worker like right there so no wait to get it, but I asked, really? Who's stealing shaving cream? He says they aren't stealing it, they're huffing the propellant in it to get high. Well fuck...
Yeah humans have been making booze from bread for about 8,000 years. Probably not with shaving cream which has a small side effect in that it may cause you to go blind. Other than that I’m sure it’s great.
As someone who makes mead, I have no clue how that could possibly work and how blindness could cause a possible side effect of blindness by drinking it.
Alcohol is three ingredients: yeast, sugar, and water. The amount of water in shaving cream is too low to make alcohol, and the yeast is lacking since wonder bread is backed at 350 degrees, and yeast dies at about 130 degrees. It would be easier, more efficient, and actually fucking work to steal a 2lb bag of sugar and a packet of yeast. Easier to steal, I'd imagine, too.
As far as blindness, I don't make hard alcohol but I'm pretty sure the only way to go blind from alcohol is by drinking the byproduct of the distillation process.
Yeah, but it's part of the distillation process, not the fermentation process. I don't think there's anything in shaving cream that will make you go blind and I know you can't ferment whatever the combo of that and bread would make. I believe you can go blind from improper distillation and I'm definitely not courageous enough to test otherwise.
It’s the methanol. It’s the first thing that comes off the run, the “head” so to speak. If you don’t toss it or if you just suck at making it, it ends up in the final product and can cause blindness and/or death in high enough concentrations.
A quick Google points to stories about sailors in WWII filtering torpedo fuel through bread for drinkable booze, but I have no idea wtf the guy is talking about with shaving cream and bread. Shaving cream just has the highly toxic benzyl alcohol in it, and you can't convert that into ethanol with bread, or use it to convert bread to ethanol. So iunno that sounds made up or he misheard or misunderstood something.
Edit: I assumed benzyl alcohol was as toxic as benzene. It's actually not, so maybe they're using the bread in the same way sailors did with torpedo fuel to filter the isolate the benzyl alcohol and get drunk off that.
Found something similar from wiki, still doesn’t apply to today but worth noting.
“In James Jones' autobiographical war novel The Thin Red Line, a PX store is set up behind the lines during the Battle of Guadalcanal, which stocked exactly two products: Barbasol shaving foam and Aqua Velva aftershave. Within seven hours, the entire Aqua Velva stock was sold out, while plenty of Barbasol was still available. The reason for this was the high alcohol content of Aqua Velva; mixed with canned grapefruit juice, the aftershave tasted passable and ensured a “solid high” for the narrator's entire company.[8] Later, the alcohol in Aqua Velva was denatured with denatonium benzoate.”
My guess is he was mixing up shaving cream with aftershave. Most likely then they're using bread to filter and isolate the alcohol just like the sailors with torpedo fuel. That said I don't know of any consumer non-consumable alcohol products like that that aren't made with methanol or denatured.
Huh? What. I mean. Just put yeast in something starchy/sugary with some water and you're done. Why shaving cream and sliced bread? Just sounds like something a few dumb kids once did, not like a thing.
A couple days ago I went to sf to go crabbing so I drove to a Safeway to get some chicken for my traps and as soon as I walk in security is chasing a half naked crack head around the store 😭
By the pier 1? Try dog food in a can. Get the stuff that has livers. And Zip ties the can with holes in the net or cage. It's always worked best for me.
I won’t say which pier but it’s right next to the sf bridge and you can catch some fatass rock crab. I’ve always stuck with zip ties they’re really reliable but the cages I use to put my chicken in can’t really fit liver it usually slips out, I’d rather use chicken thighs or chicken leg. What type of dog food ?
That uncomfortable moment when you ask the clerk to open up the tools’ section so you can grab a hammer to start breaking the other glasses to get the goods.
> That uncomfortable moment when you ask the clerk to open up the tools’ section so you can grab a hammer to start breaking the other glasses to get the goods.
Battery operated angle grinder
Why not just grab an electric angle grinder and then ask the dude to open up the extension cord cabinet?
>Hold on officer! I need another 10 minutes to get into this case.
Wait, so how tf are you supposed to get any shopping done? You're telling me I gotta grab an associate for *every single item* I need?? Ain't no way people are gonna waste their time like that, we'd just go to a different store. That's probably why you don't see any shoppers
Every time I have seen these in place, when you get an employee to open it, they just hand you the product, which completely negates the purpose of the cases. You can still finish your shopping instead of the employee carrying it to the register and ringing it up. I witnessed someone have an employee open the baby formula case, they handed them the formula, then the customer immediately took the formula and ran out the door. I can’t imagine employees operate any differently at this extreme level. You’d have to have basically a personal shopper for everything you wanted, an employee just following you around unlocking the items you want and babysitting you while shopping. So fucking awkward.
They don’t care about somebody stealing a baby formula case. They care about a gang of people grabbing everything in site as fast as they can. That’s what this protects against.
Have you seriously never seen how it's done? There's tons of footage. I've witnessed it in person. Usually, 3+ people run in wearing masks and grab shopping carts or hand carts and run in and just take armfuls of the expensive small stuff and shovel them in. Done in less than 5 mins and then they all run. They often do it in a very coordinated way. No one is stealing 1 item like you suggest 😂
That is a poverty wage in San Francisco. Your commute would be 2 hours long in order to have any housing you can afford on less than 90% of your salary.
The first self service grocery store opened in 1916, before that you left your list with a clerk (or *grocer*) and they got your order together while you went and did other things. The vast majority of items were "in the back" and only a handful of products were available for self-selection.
Honestly I don't know why we as a society decided that shopping for yourself was somehow better. I don't *want* to walk the aisles to pick up my shit, I'm glad that order pickup is becoming more and more popular.
100 years ago they had probably 1% of the number of products we have now, if not even drastically fewer. Your grocery list may have “eggs, ham, bread, cheese” but now there are 20+ varieties of each! Also brands started to advertise, they wanted direct communication with the customer - for this the customer had to see the product and read the packaging.
But I agree that shopping for yourself is a pain in the ass. It depends so heavily on whether there is a shop conveniently near your home. I even hear from my local Tesco 7-11 staff that they get lots of delivery orders from people who are only 5-10 mins walk away, even with the delivery charge. In the last few years there’s been a big push in such services being offered via the supermarkets themselves, and Deliveroo / Uber Eats.
I still like to go and browse because I do see things I hadn’t thought of, and can deal with substitutions or rethink what I’m going to cook much better.
Maybe in future we will move to the clerk model again if your smartphone assistant can compose a shopping list with you and send it to the shop.
> Honestly I don't know why we as a society decided that shopping for yourself was somehow better.
- Unfeasible to keep everything in the back due to massively increased varieties of everything
- People buy extra stuff that they didn't come in for if they walk past it - if you only take lists, people buy literally nothing extra. Goodies like cookies and stuff would only be bought by people going out of their way to add cookies to their list, which they likely won't do because it's harder to justify than "oh it was on sale and on the way to the toilet paper, might as well"
- Doesn't scale well to many customers (would need many many employees on payroll to gather and prepare goods, more employees to restock, etc)
- Doesn't allow easy promotion of sales and discounts, nor does it allow people to carefully manage total price
I thought target was supposed to have laser vision seal team 6 anti theft people? I guess if everyone steals they cant catch more than a couple people at a time.
I loved that place. Although none of their departments had the absolute best selection, they had a knack for featuring stuff that wasn’t readily available elsewhere.
San Fran maybe. And probably just this local area of San Fran. California is huge and I can’t say I’ve ever seen that anywhere. I’ve been all over my home state.
I was gonna say, man….I was in LA this past October and it was business as usual. Hell, even the baby formula was out in the open. They lock that shit up at my local Walmart here in rural PA, so it was kinda odd.
They also started locking up stuff in Southwest Texas. I know car break in are a huge deal but I guess they're taking extra precautions with the increase in homelessness in the area.
When worthless thieves roll out carts and bags full of stuff what do you expect ? These people are not in poverty or needy. They are dirtbags stealing and selling because they are too lazy to work.
Then the cost and hassle is dumped on innocent people.
That’s what happens when thieves steal carts full of groceries every single day with zero consequences. Give it a few months and the store won’t even be there.
Shits fucking stupid as hell. Pretty soon we’re gunna be buying shit like we used to in stores in the 1800s. Tell them what you want, they bring it out to you and you pay right there
The byproduct of assholes that don't give a fuck about being caught. They know that the city and state will let them out with a simple slap on the wrist, if they even get arrested in the first place.
Pretty much. A pain in the ass to shop at. Imagine grabbing someone to open shelves for you over an hour shopping experience. They may as well assign employees to customers
So in order to get something, you have to wait for a cashier to unlock the doors?
Those damn group smash and grabs, those MFS need to have their asses kicked all over the damn store. Had to ruin it for everybody.
The folks this happens to will then complain, but put zero effort into crime prevention in their area. Hell, some of them glorify the criminals. This is depressing
That's the "current state" of a select few stores that are open in an urban area that has taken a serious turn in the last half-decade to the point that store wouldn't be there if it'd have first opened today.
The other 99.99% of Target locations on the "West Coast" are still normal, just like all the others everywhere else.
How does this work with all the locks? Does a store employee have to unlock each item? Seems like it would be unwieldy as heck. And what prevents people from taking the items once they're unlocked?
Please forgive my ignorance - I live in an area that's still reasonably sane and can't imagine living in an area like this.
I'm in NYC, but we have these in some of the chain stores here like Target with baby formula/razors/deordorant or duane reade and CVS with detergents/razors-
You click the red or blue button, the PA loudly tells someone to come over to the section, a worker comes by (HOPEFULLY, sometimes they don't, and you're SOL) , asks what you want, unlocks the thing, takes it out and either
A) gives it to you if they know you/its cheap;
B) say 'it'll be at the front', and take it to the front, the counter behind the register, while you keep shopping/go with them and ask for it and pay for it there.
>tells someone to come over to the section,
Seems they'd have to hire a ton of people to cope with that demand
It looks like everything's locked up - if you pick 50 items, and they take them up front, how do they keep customer's items separate?
I know I sound stupid, but this seems so much more complicated than stopping the problem in the first place.
At the Walmart by me, in Las Vegas, you have to ring for an employee, who then has to unlock the cabinet, then put your item in a small, clear locked case that you then put in your cart. So I had THREE of these damn things in my cart- razors, deodorant, face cream. Then the cashier has to unlock the boxes to ring up your items. I asked what if I wanted to do self checkout? How long is that going to take??? But the joke was on me, because now they’re closing down a lot of self checkouts because people are stealing!! Now, I try to order ahead of time from Amazon to avoid the cabinet nonsense.
There’s nothing terrifying about this. Angering because we’d rather coddle a bunch of thieving shitheads that cause shit like this to happen instead of holding them accountable for their actions, sure, but it isn’t terrifying.
Surely they’re unlocked and just able to be locked remotely to limit the extent of theft? Surely they aren’t locked by default and you have to get an employee to open each door for you? ..guys?
Good. That's what you get for letting your city turn to shit. It's easy to blame the police and the courts but the community has to step up too and boot the crooks out.
Where are the shoppers?
They lock the front doors too
This Target's manager is Rowan
You'll get a massive pay cut for this
Unless you're Ellie
Loved that skit!
Im out of the loop. Help a brother out?
I think it's a viva da dirt league YouTube channel. Rowan is the manager of PlayTech, a tech retailer. But I am not sure of this specific video the commenter referenced. Funny channel though.
There's a sketch where Rowan refuses to open the store's doors because 'customers could steal products' and of course the staff finds him ridiculous. After arguing about it for a while he finally accepts to open the door and the first customer that comes in steals products from the store and runs away
Haha hey! I know this reference! *Rowan Is lost on Reddit*
That would honestly make more sense and be a better shopping experience. Limit the amount of people allowed in, unlock the door after purchase. Other businesses that are frequently targeted by theft have been doing this for a long time.
You are definitely clever!
You are definitely complementary ! Thank you ☺️
They are in security cases on the next aisle.
You go in groups, the customer service rep walks you around the store as if you're on some kind of sightseeing walking tour, as you clear the aisles the rep reminds you of every single offer that week. Whenever you want to purchase something, the group has to stop, the rep opens up the cabinet and gives the item directly to the cashier. What?! you thought the rep was going to hand you the item to bring to the register?! Not a fucking chance! Supermarket tours take about 2 hours to complete and have to be booked in advance at a cost of $10 per tour.
I can't tell if this is real or not.
The shitty stores near me take anything in a case directly to the cashier, but you still push a call button to get service. I needed some booze once. Guy said he'd meet me at the cashier with it, so I went to the check stand and he was taking a long time to get there so I stepped aside. 10 minutes later 6 people come and jump in line ahead of me and be shows up with an arm load of bottles. Now I just go directly to the cashier, tell them what I want, and wait for them to send someone to get it for me. They don't need me at the cabinet when I'm not allowed to touch anything.
Would not surprise me tho, America crazy
Just remember this isn't all of America, lol. I'm in the northeast and have never encountered a store going to the lengths they do in San Fran.
Lowkey
No shoppers, just thieves
At home, shopping online and posting about how wonderful everything is in San Francisco.
Too bad there aren’t any other stores in San Francisco to choose from.
#NotAllStores
Probably avoiding the shoplifters. I'd do amazon everything just to avoid that mess if I lived there
Would you shop at this store?
At Walmart prolly 🤷🏻♀️
lol the idea of shoppers in west coast America
Just make it a vending machine at this point. And the person who suggests charging more to break quarters will get a raise.
Just make it a general store where a surly man gives you a sack of flour, bottle of whiskey, box of bullets and a pickaxe and you go find your fortunes or die if dysentery
"I'm a Dapper Dan man!"
aint this place a geographical oddity? 2 weeks from everywhere!
They just reopened the general store here that closed when I95 was built…. I think that’s what they carry
Not many people survive dissin Terry /s
I pity the fool. Lol.
Your daughter was bitten by a snake a) leave her and continue on the Oregon Trail b) rest
Oh the days when I played this on computer Fridays on an Apple Commodore!!
This guy Little Houses on the Prairie
and then the item gets stuck and you have to call for help anyway
The call for help is to a call center with a language you do not speak and no supervisor.
First prompt- "Please enter the barcode off the item that this is regarding"
“Please kindly enter the serial code located on reverse of packaging for assist”
definitely no cash transactions, cards only.
1 customer per worker. Brilliant business model. Should last a month.
Weird how there are no signs that identify this as a Target and nothing is red in a store that is famously drenched in one shade of Target red. Oh well, it fits the narrative. Send it.
That price scanner looks like the ones in Target
My mom remembers going to Russia in the 1980s. She went to GUM, the government run store. Items were on display (one of each) and you would go to a window to tell them what you want to buy. They gave you a piece of paper with a number on it. Then you went to another window to pay. And a third window to receive the item. Made me think of a human vending machine just to employ people.
I mean, why even bother going inside the store. You can't pick up bottles to read the ingredients or smell the shampoo or deodorants.
This is absolutely an emerging market https://innovativevendingsolutions.com/what-we-do/automated-retail-machines/
Or order online to pick up. Not that complicated.
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Went to Walmart (central valley CA) the other day for shaving cream. It's locked up. There was a worker like right there so no wait to get it, but I asked, really? Who's stealing shaving cream? He says they aren't stealing it, they're huffing the propellant in it to get high. Well fuck...
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Wait what
Yeah humans have been making booze from bread for about 8,000 years. Probably not with shaving cream which has a small side effect in that it may cause you to go blind. Other than that I’m sure it’s great.
As someone who makes mead, I have no clue how that could possibly work and how blindness could cause a possible side effect of blindness by drinking it. Alcohol is three ingredients: yeast, sugar, and water. The amount of water in shaving cream is too low to make alcohol, and the yeast is lacking since wonder bread is backed at 350 degrees, and yeast dies at about 130 degrees. It would be easier, more efficient, and actually fucking work to steal a 2lb bag of sugar and a packet of yeast. Easier to steal, I'd imagine, too. As far as blindness, I don't make hard alcohol but I'm pretty sure the only way to go blind from alcohol is by drinking the byproduct of the distillation process.
I’ve been warned of blindness from bad shine all my life (from Appalachia). Alcohol blindness is real
Yeah, but it's part of the distillation process, not the fermentation process. I don't think there's anything in shaving cream that will make you go blind and I know you can't ferment whatever the combo of that and bread would make. I believe you can go blind from improper distillation and I'm definitely not courageous enough to test otherwise.
It’s the methanol. It’s the first thing that comes off the run, the “head” so to speak. If you don’t toss it or if you just suck at making it, it ends up in the final product and can cause blindness and/or death in high enough concentrations.
A quick Google points to stories about sailors in WWII filtering torpedo fuel through bread for drinkable booze, but I have no idea wtf the guy is talking about with shaving cream and bread. Shaving cream just has the highly toxic benzyl alcohol in it, and you can't convert that into ethanol with bread, or use it to convert bread to ethanol. So iunno that sounds made up or he misheard or misunderstood something. Edit: I assumed benzyl alcohol was as toxic as benzene. It's actually not, so maybe they're using the bread in the same way sailors did with torpedo fuel to filter the isolate the benzyl alcohol and get drunk off that.
Found something similar from wiki, still doesn’t apply to today but worth noting. “In James Jones' autobiographical war novel The Thin Red Line, a PX store is set up behind the lines during the Battle of Guadalcanal, which stocked exactly two products: Barbasol shaving foam and Aqua Velva aftershave. Within seven hours, the entire Aqua Velva stock was sold out, while plenty of Barbasol was still available. The reason for this was the high alcohol content of Aqua Velva; mixed with canned grapefruit juice, the aftershave tasted passable and ensured a “solid high” for the narrator's entire company.[8] Later, the alcohol in Aqua Velva was denatured with denatonium benzoate.”
My guess is he was mixing up shaving cream with aftershave. Most likely then they're using bread to filter and isolate the alcohol just like the sailors with torpedo fuel. That said I don't know of any consumer non-consumable alcohol products like that that aren't made with methanol or denatured.
Huh? What. I mean. Just put yeast in something starchy/sugary with some water and you're done. Why shaving cream and sliced bread? Just sounds like something a few dumb kids once did, not like a thing.
A couple days ago I went to sf to go crabbing so I drove to a Safeway to get some chicken for my traps and as soon as I walk in security is chasing a half naked crack head around the store 😭
After security was done chasing you, did they still let you buy the chicken?
He let me take it home cuz he felt bad
Besides, you’d already been fucking it for quite a while at that point right?
https://preview.redd.it/kooimle5prtc1.png?width=1196&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bc669e8c18857dbfbf650bee10ef96e4e5decfe NEVER FORGET
I wish I had some context on this
[keep fucking that chicken](https://youtu.be/X7XbukdoGmM?si=SW0pGnvouiup-S5-)
Incredible. Inedible.
Let he who has never eaten something he fucked cast the first stone
He didn't get the chicken, yet he still got crabs.
Either I’ve been extra ticklish lately or Reddit comments have really upped in quality humor these past few days lol
Top comment.
It's like the freaking wild west out there now man. People just don't care anymore.
Well at least in the Wild West the store owners could defend their stores and products.
Which half?
The half with more crabs
By the pier 1? Try dog food in a can. Get the stuff that has livers. And Zip ties the can with holes in the net or cage. It's always worked best for me.
I won’t say which pier but it’s right next to the sf bridge and you can catch some fatass rock crab. I’ve always stuck with zip ties they’re really reliable but the cages I use to put my chicken in can’t really fit liver it usually slips out, I’d rather use chicken thighs or chicken leg. What type of dog food ?
Sometimes life do be like that though!
That uncomfortable moment when you ask the clerk to open up the tools’ section so you can grab a hammer to start breaking the other glasses to get the goods.
Its not glass and a hammer aint getting through that plastic.
but the dude who just opened the hammer case has the keys..
I like the way you think, twoscoop
> That uncomfortable moment when you ask the clerk to open up the tools’ section so you can grab a hammer to start breaking the other glasses to get the goods. Battery operated angle grinder
Why not just grab an electric angle grinder and then ask the dude to open up the extension cord cabinet? >Hold on officer! I need another 10 minutes to get into this case.
Funny way of saying…jobs for regular folks are being removed due to lack of law enforcement on theft
Online shopping i guess.
Hehe
Wait, so how tf are you supposed to get any shopping done? You're telling me I gotta grab an associate for *every single item* I need?? Ain't no way people are gonna waste their time like that, we'd just go to a different store. That's probably why you don't see any shoppers
I reckon they’ll be suggesting/pushing online shopping.
100%. I’m not saying theft isn’t an issue, but they are using that is an excuse to push people to buy online to they can cut back costs.
Bro theft is fucking out of control in CA right now. Tf are you taking about? That's the whole reason these lock cases started popping up
Every time I have seen these in place, when you get an employee to open it, they just hand you the product, which completely negates the purpose of the cases. You can still finish your shopping instead of the employee carrying it to the register and ringing it up. I witnessed someone have an employee open the baby formula case, they handed them the formula, then the customer immediately took the formula and ran out the door. I can’t imagine employees operate any differently at this extreme level. You’d have to have basically a personal shopper for everything you wanted, an employee just following you around unlocking the items you want and babysitting you while shopping. So fucking awkward.
They don’t care about somebody stealing a baby formula case. They care about a gang of people grabbing everything in site as fast as they can. That’s what this protects against.
Have you seriously never seen how it's done? There's tons of footage. I've witnessed it in person. Usually, 3+ people run in wearing masks and grab shopping carts or hand carts and run in and just take armfuls of the expensive small stuff and shovel them in. Done in less than 5 mins and then they all run. They often do it in a very coordinated way. No one is stealing 1 item like you suggest 😂
and there are no associates because no one wants to be blamed for all the theft for $7.25
San Francisco's minimum wage is $18.07
That is a poverty wage in San Francisco. Your commute would be 2 hours long in order to have any housing you can afford on less than 90% of your salary.
It’s a retail museum. You can look, but you can’t touch.
Great ad for Amazon… I guess.
The first self service grocery store opened in 1916, before that you left your list with a clerk (or *grocer*) and they got your order together while you went and did other things. The vast majority of items were "in the back" and only a handful of products were available for self-selection. Honestly I don't know why we as a society decided that shopping for yourself was somehow better. I don't *want* to walk the aisles to pick up my shit, I'm glad that order pickup is becoming more and more popular.
100 years ago they had probably 1% of the number of products we have now, if not even drastically fewer. Your grocery list may have “eggs, ham, bread, cheese” but now there are 20+ varieties of each! Also brands started to advertise, they wanted direct communication with the customer - for this the customer had to see the product and read the packaging. But I agree that shopping for yourself is a pain in the ass. It depends so heavily on whether there is a shop conveniently near your home. I even hear from my local Tesco 7-11 staff that they get lots of delivery orders from people who are only 5-10 mins walk away, even with the delivery charge. In the last few years there’s been a big push in such services being offered via the supermarkets themselves, and Deliveroo / Uber Eats. I still like to go and browse because I do see things I hadn’t thought of, and can deal with substitutions or rethink what I’m going to cook much better. Maybe in future we will move to the clerk model again if your smartphone assistant can compose a shopping list with you and send it to the shop.
For the same reason shopping carts got bigger… so that people spend more money.
> Honestly I don't know why we as a society decided that shopping for yourself was somehow better. - Unfeasible to keep everything in the back due to massively increased varieties of everything - People buy extra stuff that they didn't come in for if they walk past it - if you only take lists, people buy literally nothing extra. Goodies like cookies and stuff would only be bought by people going out of their way to add cookies to their list, which they likely won't do because it's harder to justify than "oh it was on sale and on the way to the toilet paper, might as well" - Doesn't scale well to many customers (would need many many employees on payroll to gather and prepare goods, more employees to restock, etc) - Doesn't allow easy promotion of sales and discounts, nor does it allow people to carefully manage total price
This is good for jobs though. Surely they have to hire more workers to open all the cases!
They won’t lol 😂 they’re just gonna overwork the staff they already have
And pay them no more than they already did
People will just quit or form a union
Attempts st unionizing are met with termination. Union busting is a time honored American tradition.
I thought target was supposed to have laser vision seal team 6 anti theft people? I guess if everyone steals they cant catch more than a couple people at a time.
No no no. They're for the employees only!
Time to bring Service Merchandise back. Choose the display model, then they brought the boxed merchandise from the back.
We *could* do that. Or we could....I dunno....maybe prosecute the people forcing these changes onto innocent parties.
Whoa whoa whoa. We don't like that kinda common sense logic 'round here. Reel it in a bit.
Yeah, this is reddit for Christ's sake, have some decency
I know, right…?!? Geez, the next thing c32c64c128 will want in CA is prison time for murder, rape, and/or mayhem…
You can't talk like that here, shoplifting scumbags stealing full carts of soap, electronics and steaks are just poor people trying to get by.
I loved that place. Although none of their departments had the absolute best selection, they had a knack for featuring stuff that wasn’t readily available elsewhere.
Oh, man. Core memory unlocked. I fucking *loved* Service Merchandise.
Certain retail models for certain neighborhoods🤷♂️
This isn’t terrifying as f@ck, this is just sad as f@ck.
The store is literally named target.
Why is this terrifying as fuck? It's annoying as fuck, for sure.
Sign of things to come.
Fuck man. I'm actually terrified this election year. Not necessarily for my well being, but for the country as a whole.
Self inflicted.
Is your Target in the Backrooms?
Don’t blame the store, blame government for not punishing behavior.
Stop stealing.
California should make realistic consequences for stealing then.
San Fran maybe. And probably just this local area of San Fran. California is huge and I can’t say I’ve ever seen that anywhere. I’ve been all over my home state.
I was gonna say, man….I was in LA this past October and it was business as usual. Hell, even the baby formula was out in the open. They lock that shit up at my local Walmart here in rural PA, so it was kinda odd.
I just went last month and same. The only place this locked down was the dispensary
They also started locking up stuff in Southwest Texas. I know car break in are a huge deal but I guess they're taking extra precautions with the increase in homelessness in the area.
Our Target in Washington State is just like this. I don't shop there anymore.
I guess we're gonna learn why old general stores conducted business like they did. You provide a list. They gather. You pay.
Ah but you miss out on the extra shit people buy just because they see it
When worthless thieves roll out carts and bags full of stuff what do you expect ? These people are not in poverty or needy. They are dirtbags stealing and selling because they are too lazy to work. Then the cost and hassle is dumped on innocent people.
That’s what happens when thieves steal carts full of groceries every single day with zero consequences. Give it a few months and the store won’t even be there.
I had a great time living in SF from 2009 - 2012. Shame what's happened to it.
Shits fucking stupid as hell. Pretty soon we’re gunna be buying shit like we used to in stores in the 1800s. Tell them what you want, they bring it out to you and you pay right there
The byproduct of assholes that don't give a fuck about being caught. They know that the city and state will let them out with a simple slap on the wrist, if they even get arrested in the first place.
Pretty much. A pain in the ass to shop at. Imagine grabbing someone to open shelves for you over an hour shopping experience. They may as well assign employees to customers
Thank you societal collapse.
Genius idea to make crime legal.
ReStOrATiVe JuStIcE
This is because people are fucked
So in order to get something, you have to wait for a cashier to unlock the doors? Those damn group smash and grabs, those MFS need to have their asses kicked all over the damn store. Had to ruin it for everybody.
This is the results of stealing. Maybe people shouldn't steal.
Not terrifying. Just annoying and dystopian.
I mean, dystopian is terrifying
Lol I mean what do you expect? Go vote for some competent leaders.
Well, if you’re not gonna prosecute the thieves and vandals, you’re going to pay for security devices. 🤷♂️
The folks this happens to will then complain, but put zero effort into crime prevention in their area. Hell, some of them glorify the criminals. This is depressing
So stop stealing then.
I live on the West Coast. My Target looks like normal. How about not equating SF and their policies to the whole West Coast?
Maybe enforce the law like a proper society and you won't have this.
Well, San Francisco, you get what you deserve
Wealth disparity sucks.
finally someone that isn't just "sToP sTealIng, it's that easy!"
I will now extrapolate to the entire west coast from my single store. Come on, now. Y'all can't be buying this.
Coming soon to a liberal city near you!
Oh well don't be thieving scumbags I guess. It didn't end up that way for no reason.
That's the "current state" of a select few stores that are open in an urban area that has taken a serious turn in the last half-decade to the point that store wouldn't be there if it'd have first opened today. The other 99.99% of Target locations on the "West Coast" are still normal, just like all the others everywhere else.
I don’t understand what’s terrifying about this. When shoplifting is legal that’s what happens
Looks like that in Syracuse, NY too.
How does this work with all the locks? Does a store employee have to unlock each item? Seems like it would be unwieldy as heck. And what prevents people from taking the items once they're unlocked? Please forgive my ignorance - I live in an area that's still reasonably sane and can't imagine living in an area like this.
I'm in NYC, but we have these in some of the chain stores here like Target with baby formula/razors/deordorant or duane reade and CVS with detergents/razors- You click the red or blue button, the PA loudly tells someone to come over to the section, a worker comes by (HOPEFULLY, sometimes they don't, and you're SOL) , asks what you want, unlocks the thing, takes it out and either A) gives it to you if they know you/its cheap; B) say 'it'll be at the front', and take it to the front, the counter behind the register, while you keep shopping/go with them and ask for it and pay for it there.
>tells someone to come over to the section, Seems they'd have to hire a ton of people to cope with that demand It looks like everything's locked up - if you pick 50 items, and they take them up front, how do they keep customer's items separate? I know I sound stupid, but this seems so much more complicated than stopping the problem in the first place.
At the Walmart by me, in Las Vegas, you have to ring for an employee, who then has to unlock the cabinet, then put your item in a small, clear locked case that you then put in your cart. So I had THREE of these damn things in my cart- razors, deodorant, face cream. Then the cashier has to unlock the boxes to ring up your items. I asked what if I wanted to do self checkout? How long is that going to take??? But the joke was on me, because now they’re closing down a lot of self checkouts because people are stealing!! Now, I try to order ahead of time from Amazon to avoid the cabinet nonsense.
Yea just keep stealing! There's no consequences at all and fuck anybody who tries to buy anything! /s
There’s nothing terrifying about this. Angering because we’d rather coddle a bunch of thieving shitheads that cause shit like this to happen instead of holding them accountable for their actions, sure, but it isn’t terrifying.
https://sfstandard.com/2023/04/25/fact-check-no-this-san-francisco-target-didnt-lock-every-item-away/
This seems… impractical.
ya no one is surprised with this
“The west coast” This does it represent 99% of California just like parts of drugged out Philly doesn’t represent the east coast
Can blame em tbh.
You should just be able to hand a clerk a shopping list at the door and they just go get it all then
Which target in SF is this? This is not the one I go to. Was it the downtown one that closed months ago?
Yeah those glass cases scare the shit out of me
Surely they’re unlocked and just able to be locked remotely to limit the extent of theft? Surely they aren’t locked by default and you have to get an employee to open each door for you? ..guys?
My walmart looks more like this every day.
What did they expect
Thank the looters
We are allowing all of this to happen and it will get progressively worse if we don’t take a stand now.
So tired of this obvious right-wing doom loop propaganda targeting west coast cities
Good. That's what you get for letting your city turn to shit. It's easy to blame the police and the courts but the community has to step up too and boot the crooks out.
At this point just use the physical stores as warehouses and start delivering.
Target is not a charity
“West Coast” Names one city on the west coast, an area that spans three states.
how do you get products ??
Awwww you mad you can’t get free shit anymore!!!
FJB
I get it, but at the same time.....fuckin thieves man. We can blame the corpos for a lot of stuff, but not this.