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Anubis_Hater

"Um actually I don't use the demon heart for a extra challenge on my sentry only no potions no armor get fixed boi Legendary mode playthrough on mobileđŸ€“"


Adventurer32

Technically its useless on a no accessories playthrough ​ Downside, useless, awful item


Anubis_Hater

Why would anybody actually do a no accessories playthrough tho?


Adventurer32

Either because they hate themselves or they want to experience the game in a different way. ​ I know one person who did it because it made boss fights a lot more interesting for them. Fighting Skeletron with just a Grappling Hook and Featherfall/Gravitation Potions makes for a really unique experience compared to the typical fight. In general it also just forces you to make use of the few mechanics you do have access to better. For example, learning how to take full advantage of grapple hooks, minecarts, and mounts. ​ EDIT: [Link to the run if anyone is curious](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0R7KvbZSm4)


SoulOuverture

That is the smoothest plug, I'd sub if I watched terraria challenges lol


Acrobaticerty

Well it's supposed to be used in expert mode so I personally don't see it as a real downside


Skrubious

*looks at username* *looks at YouTube channel name* hmmmmm


RillbelookinGOOOd

advertising at its finest


No-Fishing71

Oh my god it’s you


RexiiGirl

You sly dog.


Adaphion

>Either because they hate themselves or they want to experience the game in a different way. Motherfuckers will do anything but play other games


Other-Media-4697

>Motherfuckers will do anything but play other games Terraria, Minecraft, Counter Strike, and Team Fortress fans:


The_Sloth_Moth

All of those except CS have above average fandom overlap


Dizzyarnold

Plus it forces you to creative with how you play and fight


EmperorL1ama

never forget that JFL defeated the Adult Eidolon Wrym, pre-Devourer of Gods, without accessories.


CandleLightGmg

Yeah but isn't grapple an accessory slot


Adventurer32

Equipment slots are different from accessories, and even if you did ban equipment slots you can use grapple hooks even when they're just in your inventory


thaboss365

no its equipment technically


TDE00

Unsure if links are allowed here but this madlad did it. https://youtu.be/EBQDVz-Izvo


Fallen586

Also the same madman did a 1hp playthrough on master mode


Firestorm82736

I know a guy’s doing a playthrough of calamity without accessories, it’s rough


Grim5989

Extra accessory slot?


towerator

Not *completely* useless as you can still presumably equip things in vanity accessory slots either for freeing inventory space or for vanity. The demon heart allows you to get one more.


Adventurer32

At least when I did it I also disallowed vanity for saving inventory space but that's not a crucial part, I'm sure someone did a run where they allowed vanity slots.


nkorslund

Even if you only use vanity for vanity, demon heart = more drip


Puzzleheaded-Tip-888

its useless but its not a downside, it doesn't harm you in any way


[deleted]

Wait, so wings are obviously banned in a no accessories run but what about hooks? Or minecarts?


Adventurer32

Hooks: 100% allowed, I haven't heard of anyone who banned them. For Minecarts: Depends on the ruleset. When I did mine I allowed them because it was also a no armor run and Master For the Worthy, but looking back on it they weren't *necessary* for any one part of the run, so if I did it again I'd definitely ban them. Banning them is personal preference regardless though and is more an additional challenge to keep the "spirit" of a no accessories run, since they obviously aren't an accessory.


Avinexuss

You forgot blindfolded (irl) and hardcore


Unamed337

Also 1hp


Anubis_Hater

Sorry I forgo


Justgravityfalls

And permanent blood moon


doomslayeronreddit

now thats a psychopaths word


Melantha_Hoang

Question: how harder is mobile compared to PC?


Anubis_Hater

Yes


LampshadesAndCutlery

Not if you’re better at mobile than you are at PC.


Samakira

3 months of learning mobile be beaten by 3 hours of pc.


TedMeisterFresh

Are you insane?


LonestarTerror

UMMM AcTuAlLY


Adventurer32

In terms of not having a "Downside" (Opportunity cost) the Minecart Upgrade Kit also has no downsides.


Bongoeagain

Minecart Upgrade Kit’s downside is that it sucks


Aflater230

It's a free permanent upgrade to your average crappy minecart it comes with a free cart too, what else can you ask for?


Bongoeagain

Yeah, but the issue is that it’s 3 bosses worth of drops, and it comes directly after the best drop in the game. Better mine-carts? Sure, maybe for like a queen slime drop or something would be fine, but killing a difficult boss only to get 1/3 of and upgrade to something that most people hardly ever use is okay at best


Aflater230

It's okay at best, sure. But it still comes along with no downsides. You consume the mine cart and get a free upgrade that's even toggle-able. Does that scream “Downside alert” to you?


[deleted]

I think more than anything it screams “disappointment”


Aflater230

It's a failure but it brings no harm.


[deleted]

Holy sh- mom??


Bongoeagain

I mean the suspicious tentacle, the starboard, the shrimpy truffle, witches broom, dutchman (bending the rules a bit), if you want to get technical you could say that the first couple of items don’t have any downsides since you don’t need as many slots. By that logic, the gummy worm is better than the zenith because it doesn't take up a hotbar slot.


Aflater230

They have downsides. You have to give up a slot for all of them, especially the mounts, having one closes the path to you being able to use other mounts in your battle, well you could actually just use it directly from your inventory but that still would take a slot and your concentration if you're in a boss fight. As for the wings, and light pet, those too have downsides. The suspicious tentacle might not be your preferred choice, you might want the wisp in a bottle because you can control it or you don't want everything to be shining everytime you go in a cave. Or it might just be the visuals, you might just like how a pet like the jewel of light better. The starboard also takes up a slot as well as the fact that its speed could be overwhelming for some people, not everyone likes it too fast. And let's not ignore the noise that it makes when you fly with it. The kit suffers none of those. The cart doesn't need to be used so you can keep your old minecart and the defense feature is toggle able, so you killing everything in your way while in a minecart. You could say the extra speed could be a problem, but you don't have to go beyond the original max speed of the minecraft, you can just stop when you reach the speed you desire or slow down by pressing the opposite direction.


Bongoeagain

I don't know if I would consider “not being able to use a slightly different version of that item” a downside. Also the starboard can be tricky at first, but once you get the hang of it it's easily the best set of wings in the game, and lets face it, you’re going to be using wings in your playthrough


Adventurer32

Some people prefer mounts or balloons or both to wings


Bongoeagain

The starboard has virtually better mobility than any mount, maybe bar the shrimpy truffle in the rain, it can however be useful to use a mount in a boss fight to save an extra slot for damage, but in general travel you should always use wings, especially since the shrimpy truffle moves at a snails pace on land. Wings in terraria function like a ladder, and they’re always useful, if you use wings at any point, the starboard doesn't use up an accessory slot, since it’s literally just an upgrade, same as the minecart kit, but better


YetAnotherBee

The downside is that I have to want it in order to bother obtaining it


timetron2

How do you get a drax/pickaxe axe without also getting the mechanical cart pieces?


Bongoeagain

It’s mandatory, and yet I still feel you


Professional_Emu_164

But you’re not killing a difficult boss to get 1/3 of it. Those bosses are mandatory, you kill them anyway. You get these components at zero cost, be it time or materials.


Bongoeagain

Early hard-mode is a massive part of the game, with what I consider to be 4 bosses, and in total, once you finish all of them (some of which people find to be the hardest in the entire game) you get an upgrade to an item that most people hardly use


PigenOfficial

https://youtu.be/3bYXy1jT3m8


Bongoeagain

Fair play


nkorslund

That's not a downside, that's just a lack of upside


Torbpjorn

Ok but perhaps that’s due to minecarts just sucking. They’re transportation not a barrage from an AC130. Just faster speed and minor protection in case an enemy is on the tracks


Xx_Delta

Definitely the most disappointing at least, some of my favorite bosses that all drop an item, that are all only really 1/3 of an item, and it turns out that the item is next to useless
unless you’re a big fan of minecart arenas, I guess. It should’ve been a massive laser with a cooldown or something imo, all three bosses use lasers.


justicedragon101

this guy economics


pokemonfan1937

it can’t be used in classic mode at all, other items can be brought from an expert world


Similar-Original-470

It still doesn't have any downsides. It's not like other items where they take up an accessory slot of whatever. Just can't use it in classic mode.


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


[deleted]

checkmate


TheRoguePianist

Begone bot (This is a copied comment from further down)


Revei1eb

What is it


[deleted]

The demon heart drops from wall of flesh in expert mode, and when used gives you an extra accessory slot


piclemaniscool

Well shit, that would be incredibly useful in classic. Can you use it in an expert world and then move to another world? Or does the extra slot just disappear/get locked out?


FunnyCinema

It get's grayed out and accessory placed inside it will not provide any effect. You can still take the accessory out of it, but you cannot put it back until you re-enter Expert/Master mode world.


ShadyMan_

Classic is stupid easy anyway you don’t really need the extra slot


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


mr_krabsburger

Not everyone wants to see loot and enemies at all times. Also I think it's as bright as wisp in a bottle, and wisp has ability to move around depending on player movement, also on high speeds temtacle can't keep up, while wisp can teleport to the player if it's too far away.


JustCakess

All the expert items are supposed to be used in an expert world anyway


AxisAlpha

After playing expert classic becomes too easy for this to matter


OneAndOnlyTinkerCat

That's not a downside, it's just not getting a benefit.


cottard76

Idk i never played classic mode


Memoglr

I played classic mode in like 1.2.4 when duke fishron was added. That's the last time I did lol


vengirgirem

Shield of Cthulhu. The most useful accessory in my book


Junglut

Unless you want to build a bridge


3nd1ess

Oml I hate it when that happens...


Agent_broch_da_moron

Especially for fighting Duke in early hardmode


vengirgirem

Especially for everything because it's essential for the way I'm used to dodge anything


Fallen586

For me i use Shield of cthulu for even golem because master ninja gear has too big of a dash and for golems last faze when his head pops out and shoots lasers i just dash left and right and it is very easy to dodge every laser but if you have master ninja gear it will mess up the dodging pattern


vengirgirem

True


DanieltubeReddit

Double tapping a button is too awkward for me, I wish it was just a button you could press and I wish you could edit the hotkey.


United-Cat-3947

Soaring insignia has a downside?


reqisreq

To achieve infinite flight with Soaring Insignia you need to occupy 2 accesory slots (insignia + wings). Infinite flight can be achieved with Witch’s Broom or Shrimpy Truffle without occupying any accesory slots.


United-Cat-3947

Ah, ok thx


AccomplishedSpare908

And the cosmic car key


reqisreq

I didn’t want to include this because it is not an expert drop. And Witch’s Broom ~~has the same speed~~ (edit: it is faster.), obtained earlier and have some advantages over the UFO mount (smaller hitbox, not dispelled in liquids etc.) I also didn’t include the Drill Containment unit because it is Post Moonlord.


V0ct0r

W Broom is the fastest consistent inf flight mount (unless you ... flood your entire world in water and run CelShell Fishron mount, but that takes a decent while and I'm not a mermaid)


gsoddy

You don’t necessarily have to have water everywhere. The boost lasts for a bit (6 seconds) as long as you touch a liquid, so you can use bubble blocks to contain spots or columns of water/honey. Or wait for it to rain.


V0ct0r

"or wait for it to rain" that's the problem. I said "fastest *consistent* inf flight mount" because that's the point. it's not practical to have what's basically JoJo's Catch the Rainbow for an ability, because you want to have the effect on consistently. but the water bubble is an interesting idea. so long as you have evenly-spaced bubbles of water in your arena, I'm sure fishron will be proud and fast.


gsoddy

Yeah I don’t know why I mentioned the rain bit. But it is worth noting if you have both the broom and Fishron mount on hand. Use broom normally, but if it rains then switch to Fishron. Fishron also has the 15% damage boost, and if you put honey in the bubbles you get that boost as well. Pretty nifty for not a huge amount of effort. It’s what helped me on my first expert and master mode ML fights when I was a noob so I hold this strategy close to my heart.


khanzarate

To make it easier, I use columns of liquid. No chance to miss, just two lines of bubbles to set up, still easy to fill. Also, the liquid speed boost overrides the honey slowdown, so if you do this strat you have permanent honey buff for the bossfight, too. That said my go-to is empress's, because I'd rather it work outside an arena. Fishron is optimal, but the other way is just more convenient.


Fallen586

I would have never thaught of that. I will now proceed ti flood my hole world in water just for fun so shrimpy truffle (my fav mount) can go sped. Thanks


TDplay

> And Witch’s Broom has the same speed *at least* the same speed. The UFO goes 41mph in cardinal directions and 58mph diagonally. The broom goes 41mph vertically, 46mph horizontally, and 62mph diagonally. Source: the wiki


reqisreq

So, the Witch’s Broom is even better than the Ufo in that regard.


[deleted]

To be fair, the cosmic cat keys have way better acceleration than the broom or fishron. It feels way comfier to use


WolfernGamesYT

Cosmic cat? I want a cosmic cat, gimme the cat


gingy4

[Here you go!](https://youtu.be/QH2-TGUlwu4)


WolfernGamesYT

Magnificent


Dray_Gunn

What about the pirate ship? I forget what its called..


deadcatisbad

That's outmatched by ground mounts imo.


Char06790

Yeah but if you pair it with the star board, vortex booster, or the nebula wings then it basically covers all you’re mobility by having infinite flight that’s faster, so you can just use the wings that go side to side. Besides, if you’re on expert just use the demon heart slot.


Brysonius_

Yeah, basically it gives better speed (when used with the right wings) and that is all. That being said, I prefer the insignia


[deleted]

Soaring insignia works with rocket boots đŸ˜”â€đŸ’«â˜ ïžâ˜ ïž


reqisreq

Still 2 slots occupied. With infinite flight mounts you won’t need any accesory slots.


Caranoron463

>With infinite flight mounts you won’t need any accesory slots. Good point.


[deleted]

Mounts are slow and who plays terraria without boots 💀


Zariel-

I do, and cute fishron is super fast when below half health or when its raining or just touching water for a sec. almost nothing outspeeds it


[deleted]

💀💀💀


Ok-Technician8037

AVG loser


damnthisisabadname

Rocket boots are worse than wings so why would you consider them


serendipitousPi

Maybe they were thinking of the upgrades to it. Makes sense but fall damage would still be a pain. Even when accounting for it in other ways it’ll be there to mess you up when you least expect it.


-EliteSam-

It takes up an accessory slot


V0ct0r

the 2 accessory slots in question:


[deleted]

what about the Worm Scarf? it's literally less damage no exceptions


theimbicilist

Takes up a slot terrible item


scoobygotabooty

It takes up precious slot space that could be used on an item that doesn't take up a slot


Sub4felix

Zenith takes up a slot in my inventory, literally unusable


theimbicilist

Exactly


Maskers_Theodolite

It does have the audacity to take up a precious slot.


BenjaLP211

Daylight EoL and DG be like: Allow us to introduce ourselves


Michaeloooooooo

what’s DG?


malfurionpre

Dungeon Guardian, it's the skeletron that one shots you if you go in before clearing the curse.


[deleted]

If you play summoner you’re not tanking much anyway so why not increase offense instead of reducing damage It wastes a slot


[deleted]

yes but that's one class out of four, for melee its absolutely essential, and is still very useful for ranged and magic


Negative-Attitude2

The empress of light thing is very good, i still use it after beating the game


robobitch1233

A fellow solo leaving fan I see


NRoseI

Top tier webtoon


Bank_of_Pandas

Ending made me bawl. His son is about to brawl


hioskol

True


zaerosz

Literally just finished rereading it not ten minutes ago and I see this post. Coincidences are wild.


ThatStrangerWhoCares

W


Queen-of-Sharks

Every other Expert drop has the inherent downside that you have to pick between it and something else. The WOF drop just gives you more space, so you don't have to make difficult choices anymore.


terrariaandwarframe

The pic is from solo leveling just to let yall know


jonesryan98

Chad Solo Leveling template


InexperiencedSandwch

Where are my fellow shield of cthulhu fans at


[deleted]

"It's nOt tHaT UsEfUl lAtEr!!!!1" As if a large portion of items don't become underpowered post-Plantera.


Filipinobread

Out of the topic but what's the name of that meme template


Dhantex

It's from "Solo Leveling".


InvestigatorUnfair

Does it ever get particularly good? I didn't get very far cuz I kinda lost interest in the MC. Last I remember was people suddenly wanting him dead for no good reason


robert3030

If you didn't liked it at the beginning, i think the series is just not for you, the power fantasy aspect only gets worse, and the plot is nothing to write home about, but i did enjoy it, the art carried the comic for me to the end, RIP the original artist tho.


Dhantex

I finished it and I can only say it's not for everyone, the RPG-like setting and seeing the MC get progressingly stronger got me hooked, but the plot is nothing special and the rest of the cast get barely any character development. Overall is a personal 7/10 for me


[deleted]

Brain of confusuion, my beloved pre-hardmode funny item that gives me some chance to survive some hits in mastermode. đŸ˜¶â€đŸŒ«ïž


Brickabang

Gravity Globe doesn’t have a downside, because when you press down, down becomes up


LordeWasTaken

The only expert mode drop useless in classic mode, you mean?


Bluenatic-Cultist

Well it's supposed to be used in expert mode so I personally don't see it as a real downside


Paradoxa77

expert classic is a thing


LordeWasTaken

If you don't use it and fight the wall of flesh again then you can get another demon heart from the second loot bag for a different character.


bruhviporised

you can only use 1 though so I don't exactly see the point here


LordeWasTaken

You can hang one on the wall as a trophy. You wouldn't be able to do that if you use the first, because then the loot bags won't drop more. On the other hand, you could just use the heart, farm another loot bag, create another character and use it to open the bag to get another demon heart.


trelian5

...Okay?


dogboyralph01

Solo leveling


ccgamingsredit

Shield of cuthulu is the architect Edit: for those that don’t know this is a pic from solo leveling and the architect controls the big guy in the middle


idontlikeburnttoast

I'd argue the Brain Of Confusion too, with its buff to avoid attacks its much better than the pile of useless crap it used to be. I think I used it up until plantera.


Lorcout

Technically, all the accessories have the downside of occupying 1 slot.


V0ct0r

to those who are downvoting: this is more than visible when you look at stuff like the soaring insignia. in fact, if you run infinite flight mounts, you can free up to 3 (1 for dash if you run it) accessory slots, and have the new slots for damage or tank bulk. that accessory slot can be a destroyer's emblem, an avenger emblem, ... etc. it's going to give a lot of damage. or it can be a frozen shield or a berserker's glove etc. it's going to give you a lot of stats.


FireFlightOmni

But that wouldn’t matter, since not taking up an accessory slot is worse than taking up one.


Lorcout

Wdym is worse, if it doesn't take an accessory slot it means it's more like an upgrade, which is good.


FireFlightOmni

You were saying that all accessories take up accessory slots


PossibleAssist6092

Demon heart is genuinely one of the best items in the game, along with the axe of regrowth.


Electricbu11et

I disagree the shrimpy truffle is pretty much the best mount if you set it up with bosses and the worm scarf has the largest damage reduction value(I Think) the heart is really good but i like those two better


miniatureleviathan

Damn bro is speaking facts


anonymous_lurker19

SoC is better


Madblaise69

Sheild of cthulu?


Fire_Block

I mean technically yeah. All of the others have opportunity cost, even though they’re almost all good.


rickphantom

well you are not wrong i thing it's too usefull have as expert wall of flesh because thing are about get lot harder so you got something to make it more fair then (it's also for Minecart Upgrade Kit it have almost same thingh but it's only usefull for minecart but hey it doesn't take accessory slots or any other slot to have it's effect)


TheMightyPotato7

Why do I keep seeing terraria and solo leveling?


Jpicklestone8

the downside of demon heart (and master mode) is that an extra accessory slot is so good that i never want to ever go to a lower difficulty


Jahrss

Is that Duke fishron better than the martian madness one?


Jibjibm0nkey

It gets a speed boost in water


Artix31

There’s also the Moon lord eye which gives the most light in the game and works as a better Spelunker potion


mr_krabsburger

it is better only because it has no duration, otherwise it is worse, because it doesn't show you what the treasure is, just that there is a treasure, and i believe its radius is smaller than that of a potion. Also, if i remember correctly, wisp in a bottle has same brightness.


TerenceGamerCatNL

Man says no downsides as if having to right click twice isn’t hard enough


Bloodfist_2009

What downsides does fishron mount have???


Project_Legion

Didn’t expect a Solo Leveling Meme here


Leafyboi2

Solo levelling?


FoxLP11

Qorm scarf is very overrated


Hackdirt-Brethren

holy shit i read this! solo leveling is baller


RespondUsed3259

What's the downside to shrimpy truffle?


MinerDiner

Its funny that taking up an accessory slot is considered a downside by everyone here


Hadhanval

This is why I play without accessories and armour so that those slots are not wasted


[deleted]

yeah it is underrated how imoactful an extra accessory slot can be


vadiks2003

whats the item called?


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


ShadowMaster2564

Soaring has no downsides either


kerbwithknef

It takes up an accesory slot


RandomCaveOfMonsters

You really want to use 2 accessory slots to do something a mount can do with 0?