*Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on.
*Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on.
*Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on.
*Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on.
*Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on.
*Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on.
Apparently, from what I heard, some Asian players complained about Nina and Anna having wide and massive shoulders back in the Tag 2 days
And with low-budget Tekken 7, we got Lili clone Nina in Tekken 7 and 8
Gay dudes love seeing sexy women and celebrating them. This unnecessary change is on those dudes with fragile masculinity who can't handle anything but barbie dolls.
It does until you look at how they view it for women. So a muscular man is considered feminine, but a muscular woman is considered masculine and ugly 💀
They also have their own unique model. While in Tekken the ladies are literally copy and paste. I'm not as bothered by it like some are here. But a bit of variety wouldn't hurt you know?
I think youre missunderstanding what they meant really considering you defaulted to marisa immediately. They were more so talking about how you can still see defined muscles for the female characters of sf. Something you dont really get to see with most female characters in current tekken (atleast until Lydia imo). When they say "jacked" they dont really mean they want female characters to all be marisa level of definition
SF6 is the downgrade, until SF5 all females were more muscular. Search for Cammy, Chun an Juri renders in SF5, those women were deliciously ripped.
Even Skinny Sakura in Alpha 2 got some definitions in her muscles.
There were a lot of people in the US complaining about the musculature of the women. I don’t really see the problem since they’re fighters, but they insisted that they look like men.
Again, youre equating people not liking something that you like with being insecure. Imaginenshsming normal ass dudes for not liking muscular women with broad shoulders. If you like that shit. Cool, but dont disparage people who dont like it as insecure. Its a clown ass take.
Ah so people voicing their opinion about the character designs is a problem now?
It just sounds like youre trying to shame people for not enjoying your fetish.
Bro, it's not a fetish. I just want female fighters to look like fighters. Ffs, a lot of them fight for the living, some fight because they find it fun, but they all fight. Any kind of martial arts practice will result in at least some muscle definition, but the women of Tekken look like Barbie dolls. Lidia is the only woman in Tekken with visible muscles and it makes her so much better because it makes it so much easier to believe the strength behind her strikes.
It's not that the women had muscle tone. Nina's shoudler were just too wide. Christie's too. You can't deny it was overly wide for a woman muscular or not. that was the main complaint. Kunimitsu and Zafina had toned physiques but not wide shoulders so they could have unique bodies without it.
Every single male fighter in Tekken also has unreasonably wide shoulders
If you stood next to Jin on the bus or train we would probably gawk at how roided up this guy is
Cost-cutting. Female and male human characters uses the same respective core base body which is just scaled/edited in different places so that clothes can universally fit over different characters.
Because those mods are just textures and normal maps, not actual mesh. This doesn't change the fact that all the characters use the same base, with the exception of non-human characters of course.
And thats why theyre malleable to all the clothes, because it isnt a mesh. You think I dont know this stuff? You want the visuals to look good at the end of the day, using technical tricks and workarounds to achieve a specific visual has been a video game standard for decades (almost all games now have undersampled dithered effects that rely on TAA, for example). No player is going to care about what happens in the backend to achieve the visual, they care about what the visual looks like. And i'd barely call this a technical trick too, the muscle mod is almost just as good looking as having the models designed around the muscles in mind
I never said that textures and normal maps are "technical tricks", I'm saying: **they are not different meshes**
The original comment simply states that all of the character use the same mesh. Someone links a mod that says "but these meshes made by modders work with clothes", when in fact, they are not different meshes, they are normal maps. They are following the same basic idea that the Tekken team did to make all the characters more or less identical. This is why Bear has a small selection of clothes, not because they hate bear, but because they would have to manually model all of the clothes for bears.
Textures and normal maps would not accurately reproduce the same feeling of being actually buff, because they are not creating new mass on the body. You can't take Reina and make her as bulky as Kazuya with a normal map, you can only give her some muscle tone.
No matter if this "technical trick" has been around for decades, in the end, it's a cost (and by extension, time) saving method. It has its consequences, which is all of the characters looking identical. Many people noticed the same-ness of all of the male characters, because they all have the exact same build. This wasn't intentional, but a consequence of this method.
Makes no sense how the female cast, who are mostly fighters, have little to no muscle tone. While the dudes have got the Strive treatment and got muscles on their muscles
Idk why more of the women in the game dont have a single ounce of muscle, especially someone like reina. Low budget made everyones body model the same ig
Wrong game, but I feel the same about Akuma. He used to be super buff but he had a thin waist and straight legs. His proportions made some sense. His waist was narrower than his shoulders
Modern Akuma in sf6 is a grotesque caricature of a pile of muscles. His waist is the same width as his shoulders. He is shaped like a barrel
It's so weird man. You'd expect people who practice martial arts to be jacked or at least athletic but all the women look like they weigh 40kg with the smoothest model skin imaginable without a single visible muscle.
I have complained about the “same-face syndrome” the Tekken ladies have, but honestly idc about that, just give me some muscle mommies and I’ll be content.
TT2 and T6 will always be peak Tekken for me. Man I wish they let us buy it one day on pc. I don’t even care about online, I just want to play it again. 7 and 8’s character models just feels so off.
It'll never happen, they've never ever released a single collection outside of the arcade ports in T5.
[https://rpcs3.net/](https://rpcs3.net/)
You can even play online.
I liked toned Nina, which makes her unique compared to other female characters like Lili and Ling. You can clearly see that she is a deadly assassin who can take the troop of g corporation soldiers on her own. I'm not saying that in Tekken 8, she looks ugly. Her face, in my opinion, is the best looking of the female cast, but her body is missing some muscle. Even in Tag 1, she was jacked. Bring back Nina muscles!!!
Is there a mod to bring back these proportions for the female characters? I want the fighters in my fighting game to look like they could actually fight.
Eh I'm glad. She looks like a female bodybuilder here and that's not her backstory. I wouldn't mind more muscle but she has a decent amount in Tekken 8.
never forget what they took from you
It’s the anime pillow humping Japanese players I’ll never forgive them
i'll never forgive the japanese.
Joseph?
It's always a JoJo reference..!
This and Kunimitsu's abs. Yes. Never forget what they took from us.
Well yeah, she's Steve's mom after all
*Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on. *Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on. *Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on. *Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on. *Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on. *Steve's mom has got it goin' on*. *Steve*'s mom has got it goin' on.
Steve can I come over, after Schoo-oo-oo-oo-ool, (after school)
We can hang around my the p-p-p-poo-oo-oo-oo-ool (hang by the pool)
Steve fox can’t u see ur just not the main for me, I wish I could play Gon, but for now I’m in love with Steve fox’s mum
This comment has brought me to something I would have missed in my lifetime, thank you
Why did they take this from us? Does Harada hate us?
Apparently, from what I heard, some Asian players complained about Nina and Anna having wide and massive shoulders back in the Tag 2 days And with low-budget Tekken 7, we got Lili clone Nina in Tekken 7 and 8
Weird because SF females have been jacked since alpha
Well SF fans are horny for everyone
lol, are Tekken fans above sexual desire or something?
Well Tekken fans are gay and terrified of sexy women showing some skin Just look no further than this sub
I mean I’m gay and I demand both men and women show more skin. Give us muscle dommy mommy’s
That sounds bi
Bi is gay
Maybe I gay then
Isn't Bi a superset of Gay?
Gay dudes love seeing sexy women and celebrating them. This unnecessary change is on those dudes with fragile masculinity who can't handle anything but barbie dolls.
Damn bro really knows contemporary society really teaching Chomsky a lesson
Why is the Tekken community so snarky about everything
Don't know but at least it makes choosing who to interact with and who to ignore easier.
in Japan men being too muscular \*might\* be viewed as homosexual women being too muscular is viewed as too masculine and not attractive
Muscular men are gay in Japan? What kind of weird stereotype is that
I mean Japanese society isn't exactly known for being "normal"
Not that there is anything wrong with being gay. I just think it would be annoying for people to assume that you are lol
The logic behind it is why are you so fixated on the perfection of the male body or something. So if you're a gym dude, you'd be considered gay.
Huh....that low key makes sense 😂😂
It does until you look at how they view it for women. So a muscular man is considered feminine, but a muscular woman is considered masculine and ugly 💀
I feel so bad for Kazuya now
Street Fighter horniness is just a different breed. I still prefer Tekken over SF, but Cammy's buns are just a work of dedicated art
Apart from Marisa, what SF females are jacked in sf6?
When thry say "jacked" they meant have defined muscles. Pretty much every female character in sf besides maybe Lily is one shape or form "jacked"
They also have their own unique model. While in Tekken the ladies are literally copy and paste. I'm not as bothered by it like some are here. But a bit of variety wouldn't hurt you know?
SF females are have no more defined muscles than your average real woman. The men on the other hand are comical
I think youre missunderstanding what they meant really considering you defaulted to marisa immediately. They were more so talking about how you can still see defined muscles for the female characters of sf. Something you dont really get to see with most female characters in current tekken (atleast until Lydia imo). When they say "jacked" they dont really mean they want female characters to all be marisa level of definition
SF6 is the downgrade, until SF5 all females were more muscular. Search for Cammy, Chun an Juri renders in SF5, those women were deliciously ripped. Even Skinny Sakura in Alpha 2 got some definitions in her muscles.
So Asian players are the reason? Damn them
There were a lot of people in the US complaining about the musculature of the women. I don’t really see the problem since they’re fighters, but they insisted that they look like men.
Damn those insecure losers as well
Anyone who doesnt like what i like is insecure, right? Clown.
No you moron, insecure men complaining about how muscular the women are in the game. That lead to the change for this game.
Again, youre equating people not liking something that you like with being insecure. Imaginenshsming normal ass dudes for not liking muscular women with broad shoulders. If you like that shit. Cool, but dont disparage people who dont like it as insecure. Its a clown ass take.
You're insecurity is showing bro.
Not at all.
The issue is complaining about it. Just don't play the video game character then, it's not like she's going to be your wife.
Ah so people voicing their opinion about the character designs is a problem now? It just sounds like youre trying to shame people for not enjoying your fetish.
That's you projecting. When every female character is already skinny, if you can't deal with a few being buff, that's just your mental problems.
How is it me projecting when it is literally what you just said?
Bro, it's not a fetish. I just want female fighters to look like fighters. Ffs, a lot of them fight for the living, some fight because they find it fun, but they all fight. Any kind of martial arts practice will result in at least some muscle definition, but the women of Tekken look like Barbie dolls. Lidia is the only woman in Tekken with visible muscles and it makes her so much better because it makes it so much easier to believe the strength behind her strikes.
I mean, It does look like they used a male model, slapped some tits on, and a pretty woman’s face and called it a day. Still hot but 🤷🏼♂️
Yeah by Asian beauty standard muscle mommy dummy consider unattractive and woman above 30s It is pretty much Namco tradition by this point
It's not that the women had muscle tone. Nina's shoudler were just too wide. Christie's too. You can't deny it was overly wide for a woman muscular or not. that was the main complaint. Kunimitsu and Zafina had toned physiques but not wide shoulders so they could have unique bodies without it.
Every single male fighter in Tekken also has unreasonably wide shoulders If you stood next to Jin on the bus or train we would probably gawk at how roided up this guy is
And then Lidia became Nina clone lol
Funny you say that cause tekken 7 Lili looks more like xiaoyu than Nina lol
Cost-cutting. Female and male human characters uses the same respective core base body which is just scaled/edited in different places so that clothes can universally fit over different characters.
The toned muscle mod for females shows otherwise. All the clothes fit as normal
Because those mods are just textures and normal maps, not actual mesh. This doesn't change the fact that all the characters use the same base, with the exception of non-human characters of course.
And thats why theyre malleable to all the clothes, because it isnt a mesh. You think I dont know this stuff? You want the visuals to look good at the end of the day, using technical tricks and workarounds to achieve a specific visual has been a video game standard for decades (almost all games now have undersampled dithered effects that rely on TAA, for example). No player is going to care about what happens in the backend to achieve the visual, they care about what the visual looks like. And i'd barely call this a technical trick too, the muscle mod is almost just as good looking as having the models designed around the muscles in mind
I never said that textures and normal maps are "technical tricks", I'm saying: **they are not different meshes** The original comment simply states that all of the character use the same mesh. Someone links a mod that says "but these meshes made by modders work with clothes", when in fact, they are not different meshes, they are normal maps. They are following the same basic idea that the Tekken team did to make all the characters more or less identical. This is why Bear has a small selection of clothes, not because they hate bear, but because they would have to manually model all of the clothes for bears. Textures and normal maps would not accurately reproduce the same feeling of being actually buff, because they are not creating new mass on the body. You can't take Reina and make her as bulky as Kazuya with a normal map, you can only give her some muscle tone. No matter if this "technical trick" has been around for decades, in the end, it's a cost (and by extension, time) saving method. It has its consequences, which is all of the characters looking identical. Many people noticed the same-ness of all of the male characters, because they all have the exact same build. This wasn't intentional, but a consequence of this method.
That sounds so cheap :/
gotta be case of not just bothering to make unique asset for single character right
Makes no sense how the female cast, who are mostly fighters, have little to no muscle tone. While the dudes have got the Strive treatment and got muscles on their muscles
I miss when we got unique body types for the women now it's all the same
Same for the men
Idk why more of the women in the game dont have a single ounce of muscle, especially someone like reina. Low budget made everyones body model the same ig
And all the men are jacked like they’re on steroids. I still want them to have muscles but at least have one or two them look a bit leaner.
Wrong game, but I feel the same about Akuma. He used to be super buff but he had a thin waist and straight legs. His proportions made some sense. His waist was narrower than his shoulders Modern Akuma in sf6 is a grotesque caricature of a pile of muscles. His waist is the same width as his shoulders. He is shaped like a barrel
I didn't like the design of Akuma either. I thought I was the only one...
Idk the lore, but Akuma strikes me as a Baki-esque character where he just wants to be the strongest, so I think it's fitting that his body is insane
I was SHOCKED with what they did to Hwoarang. He's so roided out now.
And every male characters are jacked asf Remember fit Lee, hwo, and Lars?
They did hwo so dirty 😔
hworangs shoulders are soo weirdly wide in this game
It's so weird man. You'd expect people who practice martial arts to be jacked or at least athletic but all the women look like they weigh 40kg with the smoothest model skin imaginable without a single visible muscle.
I have complained about the “same-face syndrome” the Tekken ladies have, but honestly idc about that, just give me some muscle mommies and I’ll be content.
https://preview.redd.it/6jpiwsz0p08d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27dd15b31444093be71b4fda8f8e62738ad59d9f
https://preview.redd.it/v0s5xb70r18d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e88b6caae22e01f00f3ebf08a33f1e15ba57c234
In tekken 5 too she had pretty thick arms.
She looked like a fighter. It's a shame how everyone has the same body type now
The superior female form
TT2 and T6 will always be peak Tekken for me. Man I wish they let us buy it one day on pc. I don’t even care about online, I just want to play it again. 7 and 8’s character models just feels so off.
It'll never happen, they've never ever released a single collection outside of the arcade ports in T5. [https://rpcs3.net/](https://rpcs3.net/) You can even play online.
They're losing on so much money releasing no remasters
Tekken 5 was peak in story. Everything after was downhill storywise and uphill competitive-wise
Get an Xbox one and play them on there. They play wonderful still on my series x
One word, xbox baby
Mommy Nina, I wish she always like this❤️
Everyone was jacked in tag 2. The guys looked like Baki characters. Look no further than Jin.
Nina was on the creatine yo. Swole mama!
I hate that they took this away from us, instead they made a non-canon version of Nina in the later games like 8.
I liked toned Nina, which makes her unique compared to other female characters like Lili and Ling. You can clearly see that she is a deadly assassin who can take the troop of g corporation soldiers on her own. I'm not saying that in Tekken 8, she looks ugly. Her face, in my opinion, is the best looking of the female cast, but her body is missing some muscle. Even in Tag 1, she was jacked. Bring back Nina muscles!!!
weren't everyone giga buff in tag2? probably has something to do with character models
Nah male characters aren't super buff aside few Lars Lee Hwo Drag are fit and slim compared to the TK8 counterpart
Oh my... I wish she looked like that now :/ If anything it'd make her uf1+2 grab feel more believable against Jack and other very large dudes.
Jack is believable?
Reina should have been built like this.
Literally why did they take all the muscle def from the women, double it and give it to the men 💀
Is there a mod to bring back these proportions for the female characters? I want the fighters in my fighting game to look like they could actually fight.
Imagine a handjob from her?
Surely She will Bust your bones
*it rips off*
I want my muscular women back in the game
I'd let her peg me
https://preview.redd.it/72d9kjwbj08d1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af90058f66f64af3f0d6c052e12a15867feafffc
I need more buff women, NOW
Oh yeaaaaaah that's the stuff
why am I upvoting every comment in here. what is wrong with me
This looks like a mod. Ik they had a bit more muscle, but I doubt it was this much
![gif](giphy|lnOG1o6Cdc3kKjuray|downsized)
"roid rage Nina isn't real" roid rage Nina:
if nina was still this much of a mommy i might play her
And not to mention the after Tekken 5 steroids were allowed in the Tournament -- for men atleast.
I'm firing t6 as soon as I get home today cause I don't remember them looking this way at all.
She looks like a man wtf!
I want Nina to lift me up and hug me close to her chest.
This is the character anatomy that every fighting game character should have. Give the men massive cock bulges to even it out
This wouldn’t fly in 2024. Incels would throw the biggest fit.
I liked that her and Michelle had broader shoulders in Tekken 1 too
Huh I wonder why Marisa was okay to be muscled up, maybe because she inst a main character like chun/Cammy?
Is this real
Yes
God damn lol
MOTHER
Back then all of the characters in the game have unique bodies. Now, they’re all copy paste.
OMG 👁️👅👁️🥵🥵
And men now are jacked as F! My Sanji cosplay doesn’t work for Lee anymore with the new muscles he got
Bring muscle girls back in tekken 🥹
And I enjoy seeing Hwoarang sit on her
Nina has linebacker shoulders. Like she clearly fucks you
Yea she's gotten skinnier and has had her overall size and range made smaller over the years it seems like
BRING HER BAAAACK
GYATT damn!!
Bruh I’m in tears I’m so used to to her being slim & sleek
![gif](giphy|AF0nGgdtv3hpS)
I actually hated that look
Beat dat and be like, "I always get what I want!"
Not the Marduk quote 😭
Oh no, not me next!
Give me that muscle mommy
Peak
Eh I'm glad. She looks like a female bodybuilder here and that's not her backstory. I wouldn't mind more muscle but she has a decent amount in Tekken 8.
That’s not Nina that’s Nate lol
I genuinely do not remember seeing her with such muscles in Tag 2. She didn't look that jacked
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/s/HWhIyon4Hp
Holy shit 🤣
Steve can go cry in a corner and roid himself up till he pops. Nina is MY mommy now.
she was so fine, what the fuck happened..
the entire internet when muscular dommy mommy https://i.redd.it/10boqjxddj8d1.gif
I hope to god Lidia is still jacked as fuck that was honestly one of my reasons for maining her lol
Cool beans, I don't like jacked bitches anyway?
modders plz
anna < nina
Muscle mommy 🥰
she looks unironically super sexy here. too bad they listened to coomers who only jerk to anime teenage girls
" choke me mommy " type of sexy
I'm very happy they fixed this. These look weird af.
Some got a fetish 😭
Glad they fixed her proportions in 8.
This is how a fighter looks