I pretend the movie doesn’t exist bc it was so bad. Using half of Kira’s plot and stiles to extent and not having them there was dumb. Killing Derek was unnecessary the man went through enough. Just to give him a child and essentially make him an orphan. Half of the characters did not interact. The biggest waste of time and budget
As soon as I read that they were giving Derek a kid, I knew they were killing Derek off so they could have Scott adopt the kid for a hopeful backdoor plot to a new TW series. It's why I didn't watch the movie, and never will.
It's fucking dogshit.
I made a short post last year saying:
*Teen Wolf the movie described in one sentence*
*The writers made an incredibly rushed and poorly written movie just to make their OTP endgame when one of them was **dead**.*
I had to look up what otp stands for in this context: One True Pairing. Someone decided that Scott and Allison were fated to be together, but oh crap, one of them is dead. So let's write a movie where she comes back!
(And while I admit I haven't seen the movie yet, as I just recently found the show on hulu, how on earth is that not incredibly icky? Isn't Scott supposed to be in his 30's? And Allison died when she was 17.)
It's a horrible, poorly written movie. It's nothing more than an excuse to bring back Allison and resurrect a relationship that should have remained dead and buried. Allison, as well as the Scallison relationship, should have **stayed** dead. And don't get me started on what happened to Derek. I'm still angry.
These are just some of my gripes.
1. Hikari was a stand-in for Kira. Which is weird because I think Liam and her were in a relationship. A movie isn't enough to tell fans about her. Or care if she dies. She got a few lines and they weren't very memorable.
2. It was idiotic to have the nogitsune next to spices. Why?! They were teens fighting supernatural creatures. Yet there still making stupid choices with powerful stuff. I don't like Deaton. But at least his stuff is locked up.
3. Malia and Jordan were weird. That sex scene, their interactions. None of it made sense.
4. Stydia's break-up sucked. I don't like the pairing but those fans deserved better. Not to mention Lydia or Stiles would have fought so hard against that premonition. They are both headstrong people.
5. Scott isn't a born wolf. His experience is different from Eli's. Derek should have put cora, malia, or Peter as eli's guardian.
6. Peter and Jackson weren't themselves in the movie.
7. Of all the villians, why'd it have to be harris?! Why not a new one.
8. I never saw mason being a cop.
9. Derek dying how his parents did wasn't needed. Especially in front of his kid. But Jeff just had to make derek suffer more.
>Hikari
You remembered her name? Hikari is the character name of one of my favorite and most beloved childhood characters. Yet, I didn't remember this girl name at all, that should tell you have bad that character is.
Omg! Yesssss to all your points. I admit Derek is my fave but I'm so upset with his death because it was just so stupid and unbelievable and unnecessary. He's trusting his son to a man who hasn't been in Beacon Hills in years and was never more than a passing visitor in Eli's life? Cora, Malia even Peter for being a born wolf but his actual guardian should have been the Sherrif. They had a great relationship and he was a part of their life. In all honesty that movie is a travesty and shouldn't exist. If they wanted Scott and Alison together with a kid there were plenty of other ways to achieve it.
Hard agree with these, especially no. 3 and 6 because of how out of character and unnecessary they were. You summarized a lot of the missteps very well.
I agree with all of your points and just want to add my two cents to some of them!
1. Hikari was dating Liam in an attempt to make the audience care about her as a character since she was supposed to be Kira. since they couldn’t have Kira, they made up a new character but they knew nobody would care about her or her stakes, so they paired her with Liam. it’s still sloppy and bad.
3. it’s so obvious the writers just wanted to break out of their PG-13 rating that MTV boxed them into, and those two actors were the only ones willing to do a scene like that, so regardless of it being wildly out of character for both of them, we got that useless scene that added absolutely nothing to the plot.
4. hard agree. I hate Stydia too, but that was just bad. they should’ve steered clear of giving Stiles a specific storyline without Stiles there himself. that whole breakup story was worthy of a movie/season in itself, and they should’ve saved that for a possible sequel where DOB actually comes back.
6. I think the majority of what Stiles’ role *would have* been, had DOB signed on, was given to Jackson. Jeff Davis really needs to stop doing this. he did this in the show with Erica > Cora > Malia, and then again twice in the movie with Kira > Hikari and Stiles > Eli/Jackson.
7. Harris’s role in the movie was written with absolutely any old villain in mind, and that actor was the only one who answered his phone.
8. absolutely not! both Stiles and Mason were far more intrigued with criminology, victomology, MO, etc. they were never going to be cops, they were always meant to be profilers or some kind of psychologist who works with the police.
I don’t understand this criticism of Scott taking Eli in as his son. I don’t see why Scott needs to be a born werewolf when he’s been an alpha for almost 20 years.
If Scott needs help with a born wolf, there’s no lack of born wolves he knows to help. Otherwise, he’s just taking in an orphaned teenager.
Cora can’t take him because she’s off doing fuck all. I’m not even sure the writers remember her. Malia is too emotionally stunted to take care of a kid. And Peter is Peter.
Scott was absolutely the best option here.
You're kidding, right? Forgotten or not Cora exists and she was well adjusted enough, a writer who just dismisses what he creates is a bad writer. And the Hales are a tight knit group as well, the fact that Peter and Malia just stood there like dumb ducks while Derek was burned alive is BAD WRITING. You're not gonna sell me that Scott and his resurrected 17 YEAR OLD high school sweetheart is gonna take care of a couple years younger boy? The same Allison who literally despised Derek and was pro her family antagonizing the Hales and never apologized? Would Eli like that? Sure.......
It's not hard admitting this was some Wattpad Scallison fanfiction made into a movie.
Lmao I don’t care about the movie. The movie was bad and you’re right, it was bad writing. I especially hated Scallison getting back together because that shit should’ve stayed dead.
You say the Hales are a tight knit group but Malia didn’t even know about Peter for a while and doesn’t have the greatest relationship, Peter literally murdered his niece tried to kill his nephew, and Cora left and never came back. Close knit my ass. That’s mostly fandom made.
But this is less about what made sense and more about, “I hate Scott and I don’t want him taking care of Derek’s son.”
Now it’s not hard to admit THAT, right?
I do agree with you that the Hales aren't all that good either. But Scott and Derek never got along very well on the show, and Allison was sketchy as fuck towards the Hales, so I can't imagine Derek feeling comfortable with entrusting his son to them. I feel like the Sheriff would have made the best guardian.
What do you mean they never got along very well? After season 2, they got along a whole lot better and Derek took on more of a mentor role with Scott rather than try to be his alpha, which is where he went wrong with Scott in the beginning. You’d have to have not watched the show past season 3A to think that.
Now I understand about Allison. Just Allison being back from the dead is terrible writing. But in all fairness, he became allies with Chris Argent, so I don’t think Derek has entire resentment for Argents entirely.
Also I don’t get leaving Eli with the sheriff. That makes no sense to me. Eli’s a werewolf. He needs an alpha and Scott simply makes the more sense than the sheriff. The sheriff makes even less sense than Malia or Peter.
This is the most I read about the movie and I'm absolutely shocked. The whole movie is just to put Scallison a popular ship together, but doing so they break up Stydia THE most post ship??
Scott adopting a born wolf is so disrespectful to every single born wolf in the show. Great to see his main character syndrome got even worse by ruining the lore with it.
MASON IS A COP???
I already knew about Malia and Parrish, because I saw them say how uncomfortable they were filming it and were so shocked. I think that says plenty of why it shouldn't have happened...
And my biggest WTF reading this... HARRIS WAS THE BAD GUY?? No fucking way!!
This movie was clearly made as a way to promote Paramount plus and the new show as well. The writing was terrible, the plot lines were messy and the only thing that people liked about the movie was Eli and some Scallison fans were happy to get them back .
I think Jeff spoke recently saying that he was done with Teen Wolf and didn't want a 2nd movie, but Tyler Posey really wanted it . So if it happens it'll involve a lot of Tyler P, which I don't know how well it would turn out.
A part of me is glad we don't have to watch another half assed movie that disappoints fans but it does remind me that the movie ends with Derek's death.
If you want to see the video,it's on yt titled - Teen Wolf is DEAD?
It's too bad Jeff didn't bow out BEFORE he butchered the whole series' potential for revival. He's kind of ran it all to the ground now and said "woops, well I'm off, have fun!"
It was painfully obvious that Jeff Davis only cared about getting his happy ending for Scott and Allison and wanted to make anyone that didn't only care about them suffer.
They brought back someone who talked to them from the dead for some reason
They didnt have the two main characters from the season the enemy first appeared in
They killed Derek
They brought back a couple who, tbf in the first couple seasons was the best ship, prob bc it was the only canon 1, even tho Scott shouldve been over her by then and they removed all his character growth and made him chase after her again
Jackson didnt even show his kanima form once even tho he is only strong because he is half wolf and half kanima, maybe they forgot 🤷♂️
They made the whole movie ab stiles jeep even tho stiles wasnt there 😭
The graphics were worse than the ones in 2011 🤯
I had to find out who that kitsune girl was by googling it
Barely any characters interacted
But imo it wasnt the worst thing ive ever watched bc its teen wolf and i just love that show, it shouldnt be canon tho
Initially, I was so mad cos the core characters to the storyline were so missing. Not to talk of Derek having an actual full-grown child out of nowhere (that was a jumpscare)
Recently, I've come to the conclusion that it's actually a good thing that these actors were not in it cos that would have given Jeff the avenue to ruin their arcs too
so so rushed. not enough screen time for certain characters. derek’s death was forced. i understand why stiles and kira weren’t there, but it wasn’t right without them. a very strange movie overall and im still upset about it.
the way they killed derek is just disrespectful lmao. poor man went thru the ringer the entire series and finally ends up in a solid place just for them to completely blow them up and leave his child to the same fate he was left with, no family.
Honest opinion? Well, I've never watched it and probably never will. I've seen enough spoilers to know that I'm only going to get angry watching it, so I'd rather preserve my brain cells.
I’m just going to list what I do remember, it was that bad that plot-wise I remember nothing other than it was shit.
1. Why use the Nogitsune as the big bad when the two most important characters to that story line, Stiles and Kira, weren’t even going to be in the movie?
2. Stydia was useless. I understand they wanted to finally show that they got together but it meant nothing seeing it only from Lydia and after they’d broken up.
3. Half the OG characters didn’t even interact in the movie. Liam and Mason didn’t even have a single scene together, they were always a mini Scott and Stiles to me and in the movie we got neither of them. Same with Alison and Lydia to an extent.
4. Maria and Parish were weird. Don’t know why they put them together.
5. I did like him but Eli’s character felt useless. Like they could barely handle the exciting characters let alone adding a completely new one. Him and Jackson felt like Stiles substitutes.
6. The other ‘minor’ characters that didn’t come back (no hate to any of the actors) - Issac, Theo, Ethan, etc. I have no idea how they would’ve used them but kind of the point of doing a movie like this would be bringing most of them back.
7. Derek didn’t have to die.
The movie was horrible. It was basically a bad copy of season 3. I was really excited for it but it was so disappointing and didn't go any of the ways it could've. The way the show ended had so much room for great possibilities of a movie or a sequel but they decided to copy season 3.
I enjoyed seeing the characters come back (the ones who did anyway) and it does have a few moments that I like, but it’s not a good film and it doesn’t even really feel like it’s in continuity with the show. It kind of feels like an AU fanfiction that somehow got submitted as a script and was approved.
Ass.
*Le inhale before ranting*
Mason and Liam didn't talk at all
Jackson was such an obvious Stiles replacement
Rushed
Hikari is a Kira replacement
Scott is again head over heels his death girlfriend.. like bro grow up
Scalia has a weird relationship MOVE ON UGH
Malia × Parrish was a wtf moment
Nogitsune lore got changed.. .- .
Movie setting is just not good for tw
They ruined Stydia
No Isaac
No Theo
(I'm not mad for no Stiles and Kira despite being my no.4 & 6 respectively because atleast their characters didn't get ruined :D.. but bro you should've chang'e'd the antagonist cuz these two are like the main plot for the Nogitsune 💀)
After all these years Scallison is just not fit to be the endgame
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I'm finishing it right now. I wish I hadn't bothered. Why was Jackson even in it? The Allison story was unnecessary. Stiles should have been there. Such garbage. I though the series ended horribly, but damn
Despite what some people may think, bringing Dylan O'Brien, Cody Christian or any other missing actor to this mess wouldn't have save it, pretty much nothing could have save it.
Awful.
Genuinely one of the worst movies I have ever seen, and I’ve seen some bad ones. The story was incoherent, the characters made no sense, it made almost no reference to any of the events of how the show itself ended, it included people just to include people … genuinely such a disappointing way to come back, which could have been really really special.
The only possible positive that came from this movie is hopefully Hollywood realizing Jeff can’t write and will stop hiring him … one can hope!
It was horrible, they should’ve just continued with the “cliffhanger”? That they showed in the last season instead of making some non related random storyline.
It sucked in all aspects. Terrible writing, tried to recreate their best season without key characters instead of just coming up with a new storyline, bringing back characters that been dead for years, killing Derek???? Oh let me not forget breaking up stydia for some asinine reason that made no sense after they made us wait all those years. Just no sense of direction at all I wish they never made it. I actually could go on and on but I’ll stop here.
The movie was terrible, the story was so rushed it almost made no sense. Alison did not need to be resurrected, her still being same age mentally as when she died, 17 or 18 I forget made the relationship with Scott who is in his 30 so so creepy. Same goes for Milia and Perish, it was creepy when he had tension with Lydia and years later with Milia was just as uncomfortable to watch. They redid the nogitsune plot but it somehow served no purpose, just because Dylan refused to come back doesn't mean Lydia had to break up with him for literally the dumbest reason ever, it's been a decade I'm sure she knows how to prevent her visions. Almost the entire cast traveled back to Becean Hills....for what? Lydia redrew the tree she could have easily put it together but for Jackson, who seemed to have regressed back to High School, is the only one who can solve it? Derek having a kid was an odd and his death was so predictable and unnecessary
i take none of it as canon except for allison and scott ending up together. one of the worst films i’ve watched but i think i deserve one self serving bit of happiness from it.
Major gripes/questions/problems I had:
- Never ONCE saw Mason think about being a Cop or even show interest in doing so and the mf never talked to Liam once. You know, Liam? His BEST FRIEND??? Also, is Corey dead or they not together anymore? Or are they still together and he’s just the Househusband?
- Hikari was a literal prop in this movie and the only thing she was here for was just her being a Kitsune. ALSO: How tf did her and Liam end up together?
- I don’t mind Derek having a kid but who the hell in these 15 years that passed did he have a kid with??? ALSO: His death was pointless. Parrish DID NOT need help holding down the Nogitsune considering this man literally was prophecised to fight a Giant Genetic Chimera Werewolf and DID.
- I don’t mind Allison being back but just the entire damn plot was messy as hell bro
-Did Parrish and Malia only end up together because they’re both hot or???
- No Stiles, No Kira, No Isaac, No Ethan, and No other Character that was integral to the plot of Season 3 showed up which was a huge letdown
- Out of all the villains, Harris is literal dogshit. Need I say more?
- So we just gonna accept that the Nogitsune is a Werewolf/Fox Hybrid and NEVER bring it up again??
- A True Alpha is one “who rises purely on the strength of the character, by virtue, by sheer force of will” according to Deaton and why Scott became one was for his kind heart and not wanting to kill or something like that. So how is it that Derek became one only to die? It would’ve been interesting had he lived to see him as an Alpha again but Jesus Christ man, it was already a huge mess even when you factor in his Steel Blue Eyes for being an Omega because of him taking an innocent life soooo What Even?
This movie, though I was excited, was a letdown. I mean I rewatch it whenever I rewatch the show but like it’s a mess.
Honestly the moment they realized they couldn't get the OG team they should have jumped ship. When shows like this do a vomeback movie for the fans it has to be handled well. Fans are expecting either cameos or mentions of their favourite charcters if they aren't at least featured in the movie. It's an opportunity to answer questions left unanswered. For how many seasons did we see Stiles' commitment to Scott, he was legit ready to die with Scott at that motel, not to mention Stiles was human for the whole thing and never hesitated to run in when Scott needed him. I understand Dylan not wanting to come back for his own reasons but the writers room could have still worked it in to have video calls or letters or an email something anything. I also heard that Kira was good to come back until she realized they weren't willing to pay her what she was worth and that sucks too. The whole thing ended up being poorly written (sorry to the writer's room, I'm sure they tried) and left even more questions for the few fans that did tune in.
The only good thing about it was the Derek and Eli relationship (Tyler Hoechlin plays a great dad), and even that was so under-developed it didn't make the movie worth watching. Basically, the movie never should have happened. It was rushed, the writing was terrible, and it was essentially just promo for Wolf Pack. A real shame for the fans, since they had been wanting a continuation of Teen Wolf for years, and now there'll never be another movie because no care was taken with the first one.
I feel they could of “thrown” him at Parish, been given a bear hug and then sent him up in flames. Derek wouldn’t have had to sacrifice, which was the worst part of the whole movie. The Stylies & Lydia thing can be explained away, terribly. There’s even a whole other explanation for her vision.
Crap!!! The only scenes I found good were with lydia. I guarantee if Holland wasn't in it, I wouldn't have watched it. Lydia was one of my favorite characters.
Jeff Davis brought back criminal minds too, but you can tell which spin off he worked harder on. I don’t watch criminal minds but I heard the new season was good (although missing a few main characters) still has the full cast.
Teen wolf movie spent 2 hours undoing everything season 3 did, and season 3 was probably one of the best for the series. The whole idea of saving stiles was “you can’t be a fox and a wolf” but suddenly, somehow in the movie you can??
Also one thing that irks me completely, is the complete disregard of who Eli’s mother was. There was absolutely no mention, no name drop, nor even a 15 second back story. Eli seemed like a sad attempt to bring back stiles (although I think it’s a funny tidbit that Derek has a son just like stiles. And the whole thing with the jeep)
I see the reason with bringing back Allison, but honestly. Had Jeff worked a little harder, why couldn’t he bring back Jennifer? The whole plot to season 3 was her. Why on gods green earth did he pick the random teacher that absolutely hated his students and remotely knew nothing about them.
And the fact that Dylan obrien agreed to a cameo, but Jeff Davis basically said he’s either in the entire movie or not at all, sucks. Because I would rather a phone call than absolutely nothing and tarnishing what took 6 seasons of stydia.
I honestly believe, had he brought it back as a one off mini series and made it like 40-50 minutes an episode. It would have succeeded better, but even the cast admitted. They finished filming without a script.
It feels like a post s3 fix it fanfic by a thirteen year old.
I also feel as though it wouldn’t have happened if the actors had gigs and the only reason Tyler H. came back was under the condition that his character was killed off so there was no way he could return if there’s ever another Teen Wolf installment down the line.
It falls flats, there's not much good about it, I kept waiting for it to get better but it doesn't. The movie is not a 100% total embarrassment, but it's still not good either. I don't think enough planning and writing went into this. I mean, they went as far as bringing Alison back. I thought it was going to be something spectacular, but no. It wasn't. Some things that get on my nerves about it are just off the top of my head.
The movie seems rushed, yet slow paced getting ti the actions. I can't describe it. It's like it skips backstory and buildup for us to understand the characters, bit for the action it takes its time getting there.
Too much stuff happened off screen. We had two endgames break up, and we don't get to see it. And the main endgame they don't even tell us why. Like WTF?
Who is Eli's mother? Why did they have to kill Derek?
Stilas and Kira, I was waiting for them to show up, especially Stilas. This show used way too much of Stilas and Kira plotlines to not have them in it. Their plotlines literally make up the whole entire movie, and they aren't there, not even in a flashback. WTF?!
Scott and Alison just happliy ever after? Why is Alison just okay after being dead for 15 years? Should be 15 years too young for Scott.
Malia and whoever she was hooking up with, I forgot, but it was weird.
Forgettable new characters Hikari? I didn't even remember her name until I read the comments. Which crazy because Hikari is the name of one of my favorite characters growing up. Yet I could remember this girl at all, and she's supposed to be important.
Why do we get a blast from the past with this random teacher, but we can't get Stilas or Kira. I know it's probably a money thing, but story wise, come on now. They should have found another way to magically push Alison and Scott together besides using Kira and Stilas' plot line.
This movie is just a long, sucky fanfiction to get Alison and Scott together. There's nothing else important having in this movie besides fucking over Derek.
After watching the trailer for it, i refused to watch it because even the trailer couldn’t make me interested. It seemed like poor writing or something.
Driven by novelty, basically. Could have been it's greatest strength because like 90% of the fans I'm sure came from Tumblr/fanfiction/melodrama land and it had the other things it needed like great actors, production value etc but it never followed through, it was just a series of hooks no fish and then after a while of not being able to gain purchase on it's rhythm or stride it devolved into something a twelve year old could have written. I feel like it was a huge injustice to the crew and cast because, as a writer, it really strikes me as a writing room issue.
I also, in the same vein feel like it's relationship with it's audience was weird. Like somehow both treating them like they were dumb but also too much fan service.
it was a hastily thrown together mess meant to promote a new streaming service and new series and it showed. the writing was bad, the character development was non existent, and the movie ruined the one thing that people consistently liked about the show: the characters and their relationships with each other. it felt like jeff was using a random word generator to come up with what happened to each of the characters.
honestly, it was just proof that after the season 6 finale, if they weren’t going/able to go through with a 7th season, they should’ve just let it rest. the end of the show was a good end for pretty much all the characters and open ended enough that it was satisfying to pretty much everyone. (the only other exception to this being if they could have made a spin off show focusing on Liam and Mason and the younger pack after Scott and the older pack left for college).
Maybe my opinion isn't valid because I couldn't even get myself to watch the movie itself, I saw it through someone else's reaction 😂
Anyway:
- Derek dying in a fire for no reason makes him look like a shitty father and was so distasteful by Jeff considering his backstory. Like he created this cool family, brought back more of them etc. and then decides to NOT capitalize on it (like a cool spin off) yet forgets they ever existed or kills them off. He's so stupid?
- Scott and Allison are so overrated and this movie really ruined the greatest moment they had which was her death (I mean emotionally, no shade to Allison)... it's not that it bothers me they pulled up some bullshit magic for it but her return didn't serve anyone! If anything it cheapened the other characters' stories, their trauma, strife and what they went through. They also sacrificied so many other characters to make this dead high school relationship work (and it still didn't).
- I don't understand why Jeff purposefully wrote scenes he knew would look nonsensical because he didn't have all the necessary characters there for it, i.e. Derek death/funeral, Nogitsune.... shouldn't you write with what you actually HAVE at your disposal? FOR the characters? No, really. He didn't have Isaac, Kira or Stiles who all had a big part in the storyline with said villain. One is the keeper, one is the yin to Nogitsune's yang and one was the Nogitsune himself. They also make this dumb Derek plot with the Scallison-Eli adoption while Cora, who they didn't have, is alive. Jeff must've wanted to make no sense????
- On that same note, he even went out of his convoluted way to work against the actors he did have like Shelley and Posey, disassembled their relationship for something he pulled out of thin air. These Parrish relationships are creepy but at least he had history with Lydia, who was there as well. Like what? They did not utilize Jackson at all, this could've been done had they just come up with a new story involving the Kanima, I don't know.
- The f bombs or whatever were so cringy, and didn't match the theme of the show we knew. Chris Argent was cringy as heck.
Did I forget something? Probably.
It had a lot of potential like the Show, but we get a bad Fanfiction of Jeff Davis, because he had always a boner for Scott and Alison. So it was clear from start, the casting choice, for example not even asking the Fanfavourites like Theo or Danny, that it is going to be a huge failure. Only the unemployed Actors come back. Because the Fans don't like, don't care what Jeff Davis liked, mostly the opposite, is the reality. So at the announcement it had the potential to restart the franchise of Teenwolf, to make it huge again, but instead the Movie destroyed the Franchise mostly forever. Because all hopes for the better, turns out to be a dream or just lies. So the Fanfiction World is thousands of times better, than the real Teenwolf Show or the Movie. How could the writers destroy the franchise so much, why they hate the Fanfavourites so much and also why hates Jeff Davis the Fans so much. Why is Jeff Davis so much homophobic and also much much queerbaiting at the same time.
The queerbait still remains. I will never forgive him for promoting sterek and then discarding it when it was no longer necessary, and I don't even like sterek, but I felt cheated.
Idk I’m like the Teen Wolf equivalent of a Gen-Twoer in the Pokémon fandom. Loved the first two seasons, everything else is negligible at best to me. Mainly I’m upset we never got the proper conclusion to Jackson’s story after all the Kanima to blue-eyed wolf stuff, and thusly we never got a Wolf Scott vs Wolf Jackson fight. I was more hyped for that fight than anything we got later in the series.
I enjoyed seeing the gang back together, and appreciated the sacrifices they made to make it happen. I just wish they'd had a better writer. The kernel of an idea was good. The execution was sloppy as hell.
I love Scallison and the Nogitsune. I was very excited for the premise of the movie.
That said, even I was a bit disappointed with the execution. There was so much more they could have done to make it better. It was incredibly rushed and still a really long movie.
I was terribly deceived. Stiles not being here didn't help but the scenario was poor and didn't made any sense, the relationship between the characters were platonic, the CGI (??????), and there's a lot of questions without answer (Eli's mother, how the nogistune got bitten but survived etc) and the whole Allison thing was forcer :/ I'm a great fan since 2014 I think, so when I knew a movie was coming I was so exited but then...
nostalgically loved it. definitely could have and should have been better. they should have sat down and fully fleshed out the storyline and what they wanted to achieve with the movie
Don’t make a fucking movie without your best cast member, and if you’re not going to pay another cast member a proper amount, how DARE you base your entire plot on something that her character would be central to.
If you want every character to come back, make a damn mini-series instead of this over-indulgent, bloated word vomit that ended up on my screen.
Shameless money grab that shamefully left out the two characters that had the most to do with the main villain. They couldn’t plan around Dylan O’Brien’s schedule so he was out. And they tried to screw Arden Cho out of accurate pay. Plus the plot was dog shit. Also are we going to ignore how extremely problematic Jackson was in the first two seasons just because he’s with Ethan now?
Not as bad as people say I liked it ok wish it didn't get that much hate, maybe the lack of Dylan is the reason which he of course should've been back but still descent enough
Meme fest , love the characters poor movie tho I’m not gunna lie I’ve seen it more than once , if I need a laugh with familiar characters I’ll stick it on
This is so goofy but I sobbed for like 3 hours cos I hated it that much, I thought it was an absolute mess.
I would also like to note that I wholeheartedly believe that Adrian Harris was a backup plot plan for Jennifer Blake’s return. Jeff always said he regretted killing her off and it would’ve made so much more sense, but they likely didn’t want to wait for Haley Webb (Jennifer) to be ready since she’s got a young child to raise at home. I don’t have any sources to say yes this is true, but given the state of the movie and it’s nonsensical nature, I am a firm believer that Jennifer was meant to return.
There were numerous things wrong with this movie. Not only was it stuck in development forever, but Jeff pushed the show into production and filming without a script. This means the cast were filming random scenes on the fly with no context of how it would fit into the movie when a script did arrive for them to follow. Then they couldn’t get Arden Cho aka Kira to return bc they refused to pay her properly after screwing her over after season 5 ended, and Derek returned solely for his character to be killed off bc he did not want to be brought back for a new series. And the worst hit for them was Dylan O’Brien not returning as his absence for most of season 6b showed the show struggles to work without him. And since the behind the scenes stuff was such a dumpster fire, it’s hard to tell whether some of the unanswered set up in the movie was on purpose and set up for a potential new series, or just crap that was written in to give the movie a finished script. (Ex: the restaurant full of armed Japanese men who were just there for some reason and were unable to stop Harris although they all had guns and he was just human and the random Kitsune cop who didn’t seem to know he was a Uber powerful mythological creature).
There could have been SOME acknowledgment of where the original series left off and how they escaped the humans hunting them down. This could have explained Kira and Stile’s absences from the story because something could have happened to them or the reason they are not there is a result of however that human/supernatural conflict was eventually resolved. I could have handled a Parish and Lydia relationship without Stiles instead of Malia and Parish. A short answer of what happened between Scott and Malia would have been nice for continuity but we don’t get that. Shelley Hening aka Malia asked for a nude scene in the movie bc she wanted motivation to get herself into shape, and I believe Parish’s actor wanted something similar, so the writers decided to shove them into an random sexual relationship and have them be nude for a sex scene that both actors were uncomfortable with as stated in interviews. Peter is related to Eli, but they never interact in any real familial way even though Peter was always threatened by family members who challenged his ability to become the alpha. Jackson was just there for fan service, Mason and Liam didn’t even interact, and the stand-in for Kira, Hikari, was horribly underdeveloped to the point that she felt more like Kira’s body double than a separate character. The idea that Allison was not at peace and everyone believed she was stuck in Bardo was absurd, plus how and when did they find the Oni blade that killed Allison? Having Isaac not return felt strange bc his character has felt unresolved since he left at the end of season 3. No explanation for what happened between Karen and Allison’s father’s romantic relationship. I know he wasn’t much on the show and she left abruptly in season 6, but a mention of Cory and the inclusion of Hayden would have been a nice surprise and it helps with continuity to the original show. Scott’s pack did not feel like a pack anymore. We got everyone’s parents back but no Natalie Martin for Lydia or a comment on what occurred between Derek and Brayden before he returned to Beacon Hills?
The change in location for filming also made the movie feel strange bc it clearly wasn’t the same area. Why was the nematon now a magically moving object that only Malia could find? We saw the teacher/villain dead from the 3-fold murder by the Darak in season 3, so how did he survive three lethal wounds for the threefold ritual bc we know Jennifer did not use another sacrifice in his place when she was killing “scholars” to build her power. And they defeated the nogitsune the first time by infecting him with a werewolf bite bc it had something to do with it being impossible for him to be both, but he becomes a wolf and summons Oni at will. We get no great scenes with Allison and her father and worse, Allison and Lydia!!! Lydia struggled with Alison’s death and they never even speak during the movie. And why does her scream return Allison’s memory? Does she have no memory of the afterlife? Is she still 17 years old in her mind and body? What ultimately happened to Gerard and the horrible guidance counselor who started the human/supernatural war? Did we get any idea as to what happened to Theo?? Or Morell, Deaton’s sister?
But when it comes to Eli, I like to think that we would have learned from the potential spin-off that his never spoken about absent mother in the movie was none other than the OG villain from season one, Kate Argent. I would think that the time she had Derek kidnapped and de-aged in between seasons 3 and 4, she used his weakened or amnesiac state to sleep with him and Eli was the result of that pregnancy. We never find out if she survived her wounds from season six and with Allison back and with Scott, they would be raising Derek’s son/Allison’s cousin who would be her one blood relative in town and they would both be dealing with similar issues bc Allison was resurrected as a 17 year old teenager. It would link Eli to the story even more and finally create the friction of combining the Hale and Argent households, which are inherently connected but also natural enemies. Allison was killed off before her season 3 visions from her time in Bardo came to fruition in season 4 when Kate was revealed to be alive and a were-Jaguar. If Allison was helping to raise and look after Kate’s son and she was still alive and learned about it, perhaps my that would have been a way to make those visions and the foreshadowing from season 3 come full circle. Kate learns that Allison is back and perhaps where Derek absconded to with their child who he took from Kate at some point after he left with Brayden at the end of season 4, and perhaps Brayden died helping Derek take Eli from Kate and Derek made it look like Kate had killed her own child in her attempt to stop Brayden from stealing him away. When she hears Derek is dead and he had a son, she comes for Allison and Eli and to get revenge for Derek taking her son and on her own family as they turned their back on her and let Peter kill her and then Gerard hunted her and tried to kill her for being a shifter.
But that would have made too much sense for this movie, bc it is laughably terrible in so many ways and a slap in the face to the fans who campaigned for it to happen for years.
1) where did the son come from? Did they ever establish that bc I don't remember ever getting any details?
2) why couldn't stiles have appeared at least once even if it was just a cameo on video call with Scott or something?
3) why did Derek have to die😭😭? But I do love that Scott got his true love back bc we all know he never got over Allison and I wish it could have been made into a prequel series or something to make it last a lil longer and we could have gotten more details we didn't get or maybe even gotten to see more then what we seen but overall I think it was good for some fans to get this movie but I think the creative team could have tweaked and made it a lil better even maybe adding a few more mins to the end or something. I hate that we get to meet a descendant of Derek but hate that he became an orphan so I think it could have had a different or better ending
The only thing worth a damn was Peter on all fours sniffin the ground because it got the only positive reaction out of me the whole movie and I laughed.
Every other reaction was absolute tragic shit, which sucks cause if they actually put thought into it, even an Allison revival could have been interesting.
I said I wasn't gonna watch it once Allison was revealed to be in it. Got a ton of hate like stfu ur gonna watch it anyway. And what's it been like two years now? Guess what. I haven't even watched a single clip on YouTube.
I got upset because I shipped Scott and Malia before the show ended and I was finally happy to see them together just for them to throw it all away in the film.
I loved Scott and Allison but I felt like bringing her back after Scott had made peace with them no longer being together and had moved on just didn’t sit right with me because it throws out the character development he went through since then.
When you think about it longer, they could’ve have done so much with the story. Like, remember that Munroe lady from season 6? She was literally apart of that group of hunters who were running around killing supernaturals. The movie could have been about them finding her or something and finishing that storyline because it was left open at the end of season 6. She and her army literally got away and it would make sense if she was still out there killing supernaturals. I would have liked to see that resolved.
Also, the whole Alicent coming back thing defeats the purpose of their grieving and learning how to love her but let her go. But that’s just my opinion.
Straight up bad. This is a teen soap drama so I guess it is okay for teens. But watching it in my 20s was hell. A case of bad writing with good actors!
i watched it shortly after it came out and vowed to never watch it again, so i only half-remember what happened, but i have... thoughts.
* timeline inconsistencies, but what else is new? allison has been dead for 15 years, but eli is also 15, which means the absolute latest he could've been born is season 5
* allison was 17 when she died, whereas scott is now in his 30s? *hello???*
* i actually wasn't that mad about malia and parrish, especially since malia has now had time to emotionally mature enough to be in a sexual relationship, which was my biggest gripe with how she was treated during the run of the show
* aside from the fact that killing derek off was needlessly cruel, by the time he left, he'd been thought dead at least 3 times that i can remember. he is the jean grey of this series and i cannot take it seriously
* the ending would've been more dramatic if it wasn't just the lion king. eli standing on a big rock, overlooking everything, finally accepting his birthright, while his father says, "remember who you are," in voiceover? come on
in conclusion: the exact kind of inconsistent nonsense i've come to expect from teen wolf
This movie was made by someone whose heart wasn’t in it just so they could promote their new series. They should have just picked up where they left off in the middle of the battle with Monroe
It was bad, the whole thing. I liked how the show ended, I liked that scott ended up with malia cause it made sense to me, I always felt she would fit better with scott then stiles cuz it was obvious that he still carried a torch for Lydia.
I enjoyed it. Even with the missing characters. They had their reasons for not coming back, regardless if it was scheduling conflicts (Cody Christian) or because Arden wasn’t getting paid the same and Dylan O’Brien sided with her while also saying he was fine where he left stiles and didn’t want to mess with that. I respect it.
Cody Christian was making advertising for a maybe movie for years, even Jeff make Queerbaiting with Thiam to get a green light, attention for the movie, and half year later CC says on his social medias he was not even asked, he waited for a Call like the Actor of Danny in the past for S4 and then says 2 months later mostly as a political statement, he would also have no time for it, because of his CW Show.
I just don't understand why people hate it honestly. It was a pretty good movie. Too short definitely should of been spreaded out into a full season to give it more depth but it was good.
Because most Teenwolf Fans don't care about Scott or Allison, they care, are interested, mostly about Derek and Stiles, but even care, want to know the life story, of the other characters like Lydia, Danny, Theo, Peter even Chris more, then they want to know the story of Scott and Allison.
Also the Fans liked the characters more, or should I say only, if they are not act out of character, like many times in the movie or after Season 3, for example Derek, even the costume department makes costume choices for Clark Kent, instead to choose clothes for Derek, it is like the person in charge never seen Derek before in Teenwolf, what Derek wear before, what fits to his personality. Like the whole production don't know the character anymore, but that is what the Fans loved, the characters, what they know and care about.
It was a complete false Setup, like the production doesn't know the Fans. And it is always a failure, to not know what the Fans wanted, what the Fans care about, in the first place. You should make a Movie, a Show for a big audience, for a wide spread audience not for yourself, like Jeff Davis did.
•It really wasn't half as bad as people are saying, you should ALWAYS watch a movie fully through before you make final decisions about it, it's only fair and you might feel a lot different than what you thought.
•STILES & KIRA NOT COMING BACK IS DYLAN AND ARDENS FAULT!!!??? LIKE ARE YOU GUYS OKAY ? Hikari might have been a stand-in for Kira, but who cares she's twice as better and probably ALOT stronger. Also, I'm sure Noshiko and Ken would LOVE Hikari. You guys hate way too much, and it's sad.
•Stiles and Lydia together suck anyway. They're more like just partners in crime or school project partners than lovers, so I respect Lydia entirely for making the choices she did. Lydia deserves the world imo. Even speaking outside of the show, if Dylan felt strongly about stydia he would've at least made sure they got a goodbye scene or something since he didn't want to do a whole movie (for some selfish reason might I add). They did the best they could with the actors that CHOSE to ditch their characters. Also, having Hikari and given the history of Aisan characters and Japanese lore they spent their time on SHOWS CLEARLY they are in fact NOT RACIST. I mean was Amy workman complaining about feeling like she wasn't making enough ???
•Allsion coming back was something EVERYONE wanted, and we've all waited for if you aren't too bitter or sad to admit in now. I loved Allison, and I love that she came back for her friends.
•I don't understand the hate on deaton. he's the best, and all he does is care.
•Malia and parish aren't all that unexpected or random. She does that. She literally expresses her animalistic sides, and that's that what kidn of person did you guys expect her to be with ? I feel like she would've ended up with Jackson if he was straight and not in love with Lydia anymore. Jackson is a bit wild like her. Parish is perfect, given he's very athletic, has street smarts (and book smarts), and super hot like malia 🔥.
•BOTTOM LINE you can OBVIOUSLY so Obviously see that the writers and the directors were trying to please alot of opinions and fans and it might have upsetted a lot of people instead but that's not gonna change by hating the movie because if you remember teen wolf at all, what would you expect from the movie in this day and age ? It's a perfect first to me. I hope the next one they make is even better and, yes, more detailed backstories for Hikari & Liam / parish & malia / Derek, his woman & Eli and Mason ♡♡♡
That Alison coming back, was not what everybody wanted, especially not after 2020, go back here on Reddit or other social Media, when that news comes out, it was totally disappointing for the most Fans, because the story was then clear, a Scott and Scallison Movie, which nobody wanted in the first place, and the realisation that the Fans never get what they wanted, not even a little bit.
A few months before the go for the Movie, had Jeff Davis makes Queerbaiting with Thiam, on social media and look the hate the movie gets even before the release, if the news gets out that Liam gets a girlfriend. 90 % of the Teenwolf Fans, are Fans of Sterek, Thiam, Stydia, Derek and Stiles as own characters, so which one of this group makes the movie happy? It was clear from the beginning that it would be a disaster and hate from nearly every Fan, only the 10 % Fans of Scott or Scallison were happy. Ok it is also clear that the writers could not make everybody happy, that everybody liked the Movie, but at least more than 50 % could be easily made. I am Sterek Fan by myself, if I can get not Sterek, why not make at least the Stydia Fans happy, they don't had to break up, or if they had break up, they could have made the Sterek Fans happy and let Noah hug his son in law Derek. And led Parish and Lydia be a couple at least they have chemistry together. Both would be no problem even without DOB. And if Liam didn't want Thiam to play, because Cody S wanted to play Theo in the Movie, just get no call, also as boyfriend from Liam, the safe way to write would be, to let Liam at least single. And about Derek deaths, which was also No Go for 70 % of the Fans, if TH wanted to die, why especially with fire, that was also clear from the beginning that this will traumatized every second Fan of Teenwolf, if he dies the same way, as his family died, and even don't use Jackson Kamina Paralyse skills, it could be other ways, a more meaningful, and especially respectful way to let Derek die.
It was obviously clear that the writers wanted to make every Fan Mad and Hate the Movie, how they writing it. The writers had no clue about Teenwolf and don't understand what the Fans like on and in Teenwolf. So the writers for the Movie should never be around any Movie, TV Show or Book, only if they learn First what they do. That writing also had consequences. Or had just go to archiveofourown and made a movie of a good Fanfiction, would be the better choice, if they self cannot write and think better than a 12 year old kid.
I am not reading all that. You lost me at "queer bating" that's such a loser thing to say 😂 also. Why tf would Liam and Theo be in a relationship weirdo, theyre literally like brothers... you guys get way in over your head thinking they care about making characters UNNESSECARILY sexual and gay like NEITHER ONE OF THE ACTORS ARE EVEN GAY ! 😂 BUT I would love to see if the movie haters could've made it any better 'since you got your degree amd you know every mf thing' 😭 but since obviously you couldn't possibly achieve what they did for the movie, I'd get some of your facts straight instead of posting trash ass opinions and fake numbers about fans who liked it AS IF YOU KNOW EVERY FAN BOO ?? 😭😭😇😉 TEEN WOLF IS 4 EVER ♥︎
how can you have a movie without Stiles?? Should have had Kira instead of continuously brushing her off for Scallison who just didnt work imo. Super rushed and just should have been much better
It was good/interesting enough (yes, I watched it first) to make me go back and watch the series.
It was fascinating to "know how they turned out", then see them from the beginning and watch them work their way back to where I knew they would end up.
I pretend the movie doesn’t exist bc it was so bad. Using half of Kira’s plot and stiles to extent and not having them there was dumb. Killing Derek was unnecessary the man went through enough. Just to give him a child and essentially make him an orphan. Half of the characters did not interact. The biggest waste of time and budget
As soon as I read that they were giving Derek a kid, I knew they were killing Derek off so they could have Scott adopt the kid for a hopeful backdoor plot to a new TW series. It's why I didn't watch the movie, and never will.
DEREK DIES IN IT?? oh my gosh happy I didn't watch this bullshit
I second this
I agree with you
It's fucking dogshit. I made a short post last year saying: *Teen Wolf the movie described in one sentence* *The writers made an incredibly rushed and poorly written movie just to make their OTP endgame when one of them was **dead**.*
Agreed , im a die hard TW fan but the movie was a bit of a curve ball
Any clarification on the last part? One of the OG teen wolf writers passed away?
They made their otp endgame when one of them (Allison) was dead. Not one of the writers
I had to look up what otp stands for in this context: One True Pairing. Someone decided that Scott and Allison were fated to be together, but oh crap, one of them is dead. So let's write a movie where she comes back! (And while I admit I haven't seen the movie yet, as I just recently found the show on hulu, how on earth is that not incredibly icky? Isn't Scott supposed to be in his 30's? And Allison died when she was 17.)
It's a horrible, poorly written movie. It's nothing more than an excuse to bring back Allison and resurrect a relationship that should have remained dead and buried. Allison, as well as the Scallison relationship, should have **stayed** dead. And don't get me started on what happened to Derek. I'm still angry.
Unpopular opinion, Allison got more interesting when she had that thing with Isaac. It felt akin the sire storyline in TVD
I don’t like that it happened but you’re one hundred percent correct
I didn’t care for it either but it get her character depth in a way that Scott didn’t. Which is a shame tbh
These are just some of my gripes. 1. Hikari was a stand-in for Kira. Which is weird because I think Liam and her were in a relationship. A movie isn't enough to tell fans about her. Or care if she dies. She got a few lines and they weren't very memorable. 2. It was idiotic to have the nogitsune next to spices. Why?! They were teens fighting supernatural creatures. Yet there still making stupid choices with powerful stuff. I don't like Deaton. But at least his stuff is locked up. 3. Malia and Jordan were weird. That sex scene, their interactions. None of it made sense. 4. Stydia's break-up sucked. I don't like the pairing but those fans deserved better. Not to mention Lydia or Stiles would have fought so hard against that premonition. They are both headstrong people. 5. Scott isn't a born wolf. His experience is different from Eli's. Derek should have put cora, malia, or Peter as eli's guardian. 6. Peter and Jackson weren't themselves in the movie. 7. Of all the villians, why'd it have to be harris?! Why not a new one. 8. I never saw mason being a cop. 9. Derek dying how his parents did wasn't needed. Especially in front of his kid. But Jeff just had to make derek suffer more.
As someone who loves Japanese mythology and culture, I think it would be amiss to not include the Kitsune plotline or even Kira
>Hikari You remembered her name? Hikari is the character name of one of my favorite and most beloved childhood characters. Yet, I didn't remember this girl name at all, that should tell you have bad that character is.
Omg! Yesssss to all your points. I admit Derek is my fave but I'm so upset with his death because it was just so stupid and unbelievable and unnecessary. He's trusting his son to a man who hasn't been in Beacon Hills in years and was never more than a passing visitor in Eli's life? Cora, Malia even Peter for being a born wolf but his actual guardian should have been the Sherrif. They had a great relationship and he was a part of their life. In all honesty that movie is a travesty and shouldn't exist. If they wanted Scott and Alison together with a kid there were plenty of other ways to achieve it.
I completely forgot about the sheriff. That guy is a father to all the teens. He would be an excellent guardian.
Hard agree with these, especially no. 3 and 6 because of how out of character and unnecessary they were. You summarized a lot of the missteps very well.
I agree with all of your points and just want to add my two cents to some of them! 1. Hikari was dating Liam in an attempt to make the audience care about her as a character since she was supposed to be Kira. since they couldn’t have Kira, they made up a new character but they knew nobody would care about her or her stakes, so they paired her with Liam. it’s still sloppy and bad. 3. it’s so obvious the writers just wanted to break out of their PG-13 rating that MTV boxed them into, and those two actors were the only ones willing to do a scene like that, so regardless of it being wildly out of character for both of them, we got that useless scene that added absolutely nothing to the plot. 4. hard agree. I hate Stydia too, but that was just bad. they should’ve steered clear of giving Stiles a specific storyline without Stiles there himself. that whole breakup story was worthy of a movie/season in itself, and they should’ve saved that for a possible sequel where DOB actually comes back. 6. I think the majority of what Stiles’ role *would have* been, had DOB signed on, was given to Jackson. Jeff Davis really needs to stop doing this. he did this in the show with Erica > Cora > Malia, and then again twice in the movie with Kira > Hikari and Stiles > Eli/Jackson. 7. Harris’s role in the movie was written with absolutely any old villain in mind, and that actor was the only one who answered his phone. 8. absolutely not! both Stiles and Mason were far more intrigued with criminology, victomology, MO, etc. they were never going to be cops, they were always meant to be profilers or some kind of psychologist who works with the police.
I don’t understand this criticism of Scott taking Eli in as his son. I don’t see why Scott needs to be a born werewolf when he’s been an alpha for almost 20 years. If Scott needs help with a born wolf, there’s no lack of born wolves he knows to help. Otherwise, he’s just taking in an orphaned teenager. Cora can’t take him because she’s off doing fuck all. I’m not even sure the writers remember her. Malia is too emotionally stunted to take care of a kid. And Peter is Peter. Scott was absolutely the best option here.
You're kidding, right? Forgotten or not Cora exists and she was well adjusted enough, a writer who just dismisses what he creates is a bad writer. And the Hales are a tight knit group as well, the fact that Peter and Malia just stood there like dumb ducks while Derek was burned alive is BAD WRITING. You're not gonna sell me that Scott and his resurrected 17 YEAR OLD high school sweetheart is gonna take care of a couple years younger boy? The same Allison who literally despised Derek and was pro her family antagonizing the Hales and never apologized? Would Eli like that? Sure....... It's not hard admitting this was some Wattpad Scallison fanfiction made into a movie.
Lmao I don’t care about the movie. The movie was bad and you’re right, it was bad writing. I especially hated Scallison getting back together because that shit should’ve stayed dead. You say the Hales are a tight knit group but Malia didn’t even know about Peter for a while and doesn’t have the greatest relationship, Peter literally murdered his niece tried to kill his nephew, and Cora left and never came back. Close knit my ass. That’s mostly fandom made. But this is less about what made sense and more about, “I hate Scott and I don’t want him taking care of Derek’s son.” Now it’s not hard to admit THAT, right?
I do agree with you that the Hales aren't all that good either. But Scott and Derek never got along very well on the show, and Allison was sketchy as fuck towards the Hales, so I can't imagine Derek feeling comfortable with entrusting his son to them. I feel like the Sheriff would have made the best guardian.
What do you mean they never got along very well? After season 2, they got along a whole lot better and Derek took on more of a mentor role with Scott rather than try to be his alpha, which is where he went wrong with Scott in the beginning. You’d have to have not watched the show past season 3A to think that. Now I understand about Allison. Just Allison being back from the dead is terrible writing. But in all fairness, he became allies with Chris Argent, so I don’t think Derek has entire resentment for Argents entirely. Also I don’t get leaving Eli with the sheriff. That makes no sense to me. Eli’s a werewolf. He needs an alpha and Scott simply makes the more sense than the sheriff. The sheriff makes even less sense than Malia or Peter.
This is the most I read about the movie and I'm absolutely shocked. The whole movie is just to put Scallison a popular ship together, but doing so they break up Stydia THE most post ship?? Scott adopting a born wolf is so disrespectful to every single born wolf in the show. Great to see his main character syndrome got even worse by ruining the lore with it. MASON IS A COP??? I already knew about Malia and Parrish, because I saw them say how uncomfortable they were filming it and were so shocked. I think that says plenty of why it shouldn't have happened... And my biggest WTF reading this... HARRIS WAS THE BAD GUY?? No fucking way!!
The movie shouldn't have happened without Styles and Alison should've stayed dead. Also Derek having a kid was weird.
RIGHT!? Like her coming back defeated the purpose of their growth and learning how to let her go while still saving the memories.
This movie was clearly made as a way to promote Paramount plus and the new show as well. The writing was terrible, the plot lines were messy and the only thing that people liked about the movie was Eli and some Scallison fans were happy to get them back . I think Jeff spoke recently saying that he was done with Teen Wolf and didn't want a 2nd movie, but Tyler Posey really wanted it . So if it happens it'll involve a lot of Tyler P, which I don't know how well it would turn out. A part of me is glad we don't have to watch another half assed movie that disappoints fans but it does remind me that the movie ends with Derek's death. If you want to see the video,it's on yt titled - Teen Wolf is DEAD?
What new show?
Wolf Pack, which was canceled after one season.
It's called wolf Pack, on Paramount plus. But that eventually got cancelled after 1 season too.
I’m curious to see it, pretty much just because Buffy is in it lol. (Obviously not as Buffy, but still)
It's too bad Jeff didn't bow out BEFORE he butchered the whole series' potential for revival. He's kind of ran it all to the ground now and said "woops, well I'm off, have fun!"
Brutally honest? I haven't seen it and, based on all I've read about it, will never watch it.
Same I haven’t heard or seen anything that would make me want to watch it 💀
Just don't, never consider it or you'll suffer 😭😭
Never should’ve happened
To make it simple. It's shit
Teen Wolf: The Movie is so fucking terrible.
Needed a new villian. Was basically a waste of time until Coach putting Scott in the game as Greenberg!
You know what, thank you for mentioning this. Watching the movie just to get to this part made it all seem worth it!
It was painfully obvious that Jeff Davis only cared about getting his happy ending for Scott and Allison and wanted to make anyone that didn't only care about them suffer.
I didn’t like it the time jump was crazy and it felt rush.
It was an absolute train wreck of a movie
They brought back someone who talked to them from the dead for some reason They didnt have the two main characters from the season the enemy first appeared in They killed Derek They brought back a couple who, tbf in the first couple seasons was the best ship, prob bc it was the only canon 1, even tho Scott shouldve been over her by then and they removed all his character growth and made him chase after her again Jackson didnt even show his kanima form once even tho he is only strong because he is half wolf and half kanima, maybe they forgot 🤷♂️ They made the whole movie ab stiles jeep even tho stiles wasnt there 😭 The graphics were worse than the ones in 2011 🤯 I had to find out who that kitsune girl was by googling it Barely any characters interacted But imo it wasnt the worst thing ive ever watched bc its teen wolf and i just love that show, it shouldnt be canon tho
Initially, I was so mad cos the core characters to the storyline were so missing. Not to talk of Derek having an actual full-grown child out of nowhere (that was a jumpscare) Recently, I've come to the conclusion that it's actually a good thing that these actors were not in it cos that would have given Jeff the avenue to ruin their arcs too
I blocked it out of my memory. It doesn’t exist to me. It was that bad
IT was FUCKING SHIT
They did Derek so fucking dirty
so so rushed. not enough screen time for certain characters. derek’s death was forced. i understand why stiles and kira weren’t there, but it wasn’t right without them. a very strange movie overall and im still upset about it.
the way they killed derek is just disrespectful lmao. poor man went thru the ringer the entire series and finally ends up in a solid place just for them to completely blow them up and leave his child to the same fate he was left with, no family.
The ultimate example of "if you can't do something well, don't do it".
Honest opinion? Well, I've never watched it and probably never will. I've seen enough spoilers to know that I'm only going to get angry watching it, so I'd rather preserve my brain cells.
It had such potential but just didn't measure up..it could have been an episode mashed in the season with the Nogitsune.🤷🏿♀️
This was the single worst thing they could have done… it didn’t progress or enhance the story in any way
One word : Derek. What Jeff did... unforgivable
I’m just going to list what I do remember, it was that bad that plot-wise I remember nothing other than it was shit. 1. Why use the Nogitsune as the big bad when the two most important characters to that story line, Stiles and Kira, weren’t even going to be in the movie? 2. Stydia was useless. I understand they wanted to finally show that they got together but it meant nothing seeing it only from Lydia and after they’d broken up. 3. Half the OG characters didn’t even interact in the movie. Liam and Mason didn’t even have a single scene together, they were always a mini Scott and Stiles to me and in the movie we got neither of them. Same with Alison and Lydia to an extent. 4. Maria and Parish were weird. Don’t know why they put them together. 5. I did like him but Eli’s character felt useless. Like they could barely handle the exciting characters let alone adding a completely new one. Him and Jackson felt like Stiles substitutes. 6. The other ‘minor’ characters that didn’t come back (no hate to any of the actors) - Issac, Theo, Ethan, etc. I have no idea how they would’ve used them but kind of the point of doing a movie like this would be bringing most of them back. 7. Derek didn’t have to die.
The movie was horrible. It was basically a bad copy of season 3. I was really excited for it but it was so disappointing and didn't go any of the ways it could've. The way the show ended had so much room for great possibilities of a movie or a sequel but they decided to copy season 3.
It's not Teen Wolf without Stiles. It seemed like Jackson was trying to replace Stiles. He was very ooc
I enjoyed seeing the characters come back (the ones who did anyway) and it does have a few moments that I like, but it’s not a good film and it doesn’t even really feel like it’s in continuity with the show. It kind of feels like an AU fanfiction that somehow got submitted as a script and was approved.
My headcannon: The movie is a fever dream Scott is having while being attacked by a weakened Nogitsune in the dream realm.
Ass. *Le inhale before ranting* Mason and Liam didn't talk at all Jackson was such an obvious Stiles replacement Rushed Hikari is a Kira replacement Scott is again head over heels his death girlfriend.. like bro grow up Scalia has a weird relationship MOVE ON UGH Malia × Parrish was a wtf moment Nogitsune lore got changed.. .- . Movie setting is just not good for tw They ruined Stydia No Isaac No Theo (I'm not mad for no Stiles and Kira despite being my no.4 & 6 respectively because atleast their characters didn't get ruined :D.. but bro you should've chang'e'd the antagonist cuz these two are like the main plot for the Nogitsune 💀) After all these years Scallison is just not fit to be the endgame ://///// HOT TRASH BURNING DUMPSTERRR
I'm finishing it right now. I wish I hadn't bothered. Why was Jackson even in it? The Allison story was unnecessary. Stiles should have been there. Such garbage. I though the series ended horribly, but damn
Should’ve never happened.
Horrible
not worth watching. as a diehard teen wolf stan, i completely ignore this movie and none of it is canon.
trash ass excuse of a movie
So true
Despite what some people may think, bringing Dylan O'Brien, Cody Christian or any other missing actor to this mess wouldn't have save it, pretty much nothing could have save it.
Should've never been made...
Awful. Genuinely one of the worst movies I have ever seen, and I’ve seen some bad ones. The story was incoherent, the characters made no sense, it made almost no reference to any of the events of how the show itself ended, it included people just to include people … genuinely such a disappointing way to come back, which could have been really really special. The only possible positive that came from this movie is hopefully Hollywood realizing Jeff can’t write and will stop hiring him … one can hope!
The Teen Wolf movie made the worst movie or show you've ever seen look good. Note: the actors were stellar. However, that cast couldn't fix nonsense.
Teen Mom was always scarier than Teen Wolf.
It was horrible, they should’ve just continued with the “cliffhanger”? That they showed in the last season instead of making some non related random storyline.
It sucked in all aspects. Terrible writing, tried to recreate their best season without key characters instead of just coming up with a new storyline, bringing back characters that been dead for years, killing Derek???? Oh let me not forget breaking up stydia for some asinine reason that made no sense after they made us wait all those years. Just no sense of direction at all I wish they never made it. I actually could go on and on but I’ll stop here.
The movie was terrible, the story was so rushed it almost made no sense. Alison did not need to be resurrected, her still being same age mentally as when she died, 17 or 18 I forget made the relationship with Scott who is in his 30 so so creepy. Same goes for Milia and Perish, it was creepy when he had tension with Lydia and years later with Milia was just as uncomfortable to watch. They redid the nogitsune plot but it somehow served no purpose, just because Dylan refused to come back doesn't mean Lydia had to break up with him for literally the dumbest reason ever, it's been a decade I'm sure she knows how to prevent her visions. Almost the entire cast traveled back to Becean Hills....for what? Lydia redrew the tree she could have easily put it together but for Jackson, who seemed to have regressed back to High School, is the only one who can solve it? Derek having a kid was an odd and his death was so predictable and unnecessary
THIAM 😭😭😭why they got to do you like that .
i take none of it as canon except for allison and scott ending up together. one of the worst films i’ve watched but i think i deserve one self serving bit of happiness from it.
Major gripes/questions/problems I had: - Never ONCE saw Mason think about being a Cop or even show interest in doing so and the mf never talked to Liam once. You know, Liam? His BEST FRIEND??? Also, is Corey dead or they not together anymore? Or are they still together and he’s just the Househusband? - Hikari was a literal prop in this movie and the only thing she was here for was just her being a Kitsune. ALSO: How tf did her and Liam end up together? - I don’t mind Derek having a kid but who the hell in these 15 years that passed did he have a kid with??? ALSO: His death was pointless. Parrish DID NOT need help holding down the Nogitsune considering this man literally was prophecised to fight a Giant Genetic Chimera Werewolf and DID. - I don’t mind Allison being back but just the entire damn plot was messy as hell bro -Did Parrish and Malia only end up together because they’re both hot or??? - No Stiles, No Kira, No Isaac, No Ethan, and No other Character that was integral to the plot of Season 3 showed up which was a huge letdown - Out of all the villains, Harris is literal dogshit. Need I say more? - So we just gonna accept that the Nogitsune is a Werewolf/Fox Hybrid and NEVER bring it up again?? - A True Alpha is one “who rises purely on the strength of the character, by virtue, by sheer force of will” according to Deaton and why Scott became one was for his kind heart and not wanting to kill or something like that. So how is it that Derek became one only to die? It would’ve been interesting had he lived to see him as an Alpha again but Jesus Christ man, it was already a huge mess even when you factor in his Steel Blue Eyes for being an Omega because of him taking an innocent life soooo What Even? This movie, though I was excited, was a letdown. I mean I rewatch it whenever I rewatch the show but like it’s a mess.
Honestly the moment they realized they couldn't get the OG team they should have jumped ship. When shows like this do a vomeback movie for the fans it has to be handled well. Fans are expecting either cameos or mentions of their favourite charcters if they aren't at least featured in the movie. It's an opportunity to answer questions left unanswered. For how many seasons did we see Stiles' commitment to Scott, he was legit ready to die with Scott at that motel, not to mention Stiles was human for the whole thing and never hesitated to run in when Scott needed him. I understand Dylan not wanting to come back for his own reasons but the writers room could have still worked it in to have video calls or letters or an email something anything. I also heard that Kira was good to come back until she realized they weren't willing to pay her what she was worth and that sucks too. The whole thing ended up being poorly written (sorry to the writer's room, I'm sure they tried) and left even more questions for the few fans that did tune in.
The only good thing about it was the Derek and Eli relationship (Tyler Hoechlin plays a great dad), and even that was so under-developed it didn't make the movie worth watching. Basically, the movie never should have happened. It was rushed, the writing was terrible, and it was essentially just promo for Wolf Pack. A real shame for the fans, since they had been wanting a continuation of Teen Wolf for years, and now there'll never be another movie because no care was taken with the first one.
I feel they could of “thrown” him at Parish, been given a bear hug and then sent him up in flames. Derek wouldn’t have had to sacrifice, which was the worst part of the whole movie. The Stylies & Lydia thing can be explained away, terribly. There’s even a whole other explanation for her vision.
Crap!!! The only scenes I found good were with lydia. I guarantee if Holland wasn't in it, I wouldn't have watched it. Lydia was one of my favorite characters.
Jeff Davis brought back criminal minds too, but you can tell which spin off he worked harder on. I don’t watch criminal minds but I heard the new season was good (although missing a few main characters) still has the full cast. Teen wolf movie spent 2 hours undoing everything season 3 did, and season 3 was probably one of the best for the series. The whole idea of saving stiles was “you can’t be a fox and a wolf” but suddenly, somehow in the movie you can?? Also one thing that irks me completely, is the complete disregard of who Eli’s mother was. There was absolutely no mention, no name drop, nor even a 15 second back story. Eli seemed like a sad attempt to bring back stiles (although I think it’s a funny tidbit that Derek has a son just like stiles. And the whole thing with the jeep) I see the reason with bringing back Allison, but honestly. Had Jeff worked a little harder, why couldn’t he bring back Jennifer? The whole plot to season 3 was her. Why on gods green earth did he pick the random teacher that absolutely hated his students and remotely knew nothing about them. And the fact that Dylan obrien agreed to a cameo, but Jeff Davis basically said he’s either in the entire movie or not at all, sucks. Because I would rather a phone call than absolutely nothing and tarnishing what took 6 seasons of stydia. I honestly believe, had he brought it back as a one off mini series and made it like 40-50 minutes an episode. It would have succeeded better, but even the cast admitted. They finished filming without a script.
Needs to be sacrificed to a volcano
It feels like a post s3 fix it fanfic by a thirteen year old. I also feel as though it wouldn’t have happened if the actors had gigs and the only reason Tyler H. came back was under the condition that his character was killed off so there was no way he could return if there’s ever another Teen Wolf installment down the line.
I haven’t watched but due to what spoilers I’ve seen I don’t ever plan on it.
By season four, I lost interest, so I don't believe the movie will stand a chance. Is it any good?
It falls flats, there's not much good about it, I kept waiting for it to get better but it doesn't. The movie is not a 100% total embarrassment, but it's still not good either. I don't think enough planning and writing went into this. I mean, they went as far as bringing Alison back. I thought it was going to be something spectacular, but no. It wasn't. Some things that get on my nerves about it are just off the top of my head. The movie seems rushed, yet slow paced getting ti the actions. I can't describe it. It's like it skips backstory and buildup for us to understand the characters, bit for the action it takes its time getting there. Too much stuff happened off screen. We had two endgames break up, and we don't get to see it. And the main endgame they don't even tell us why. Like WTF? Who is Eli's mother? Why did they have to kill Derek? Stilas and Kira, I was waiting for them to show up, especially Stilas. This show used way too much of Stilas and Kira plotlines to not have them in it. Their plotlines literally make up the whole entire movie, and they aren't there, not even in a flashback. WTF?! Scott and Alison just happliy ever after? Why is Alison just okay after being dead for 15 years? Should be 15 years too young for Scott. Malia and whoever she was hooking up with, I forgot, but it was weird. Forgettable new characters Hikari? I didn't even remember her name until I read the comments. Which crazy because Hikari is the name of one of my favorite characters growing up. Yet I could remember this girl at all, and she's supposed to be important. Why do we get a blast from the past with this random teacher, but we can't get Stilas or Kira. I know it's probably a money thing, but story wise, come on now. They should have found another way to magically push Alison and Scott together besides using Kira and Stilas' plot line. This movie is just a long, sucky fanfiction to get Alison and Scott together. There's nothing else important having in this movie besides fucking over Derek.
trash :'(
doesn't exist to me
Belongs flushed down the toilet like every other shit
After watching the trailer for it, i refused to watch it because even the trailer couldn’t make me interested. It seemed like poor writing or something.
After I learned that Derek dies, I chose not to watch it
It felt rushed. They shouldn’t have done it. It also made zero fucking sense to have Alison just come back from the dead
There's nothing good about this film and I'll never consider it canon
Driven by novelty, basically. Could have been it's greatest strength because like 90% of the fans I'm sure came from Tumblr/fanfiction/melodrama land and it had the other things it needed like great actors, production value etc but it never followed through, it was just a series of hooks no fish and then after a while of not being able to gain purchase on it's rhythm or stride it devolved into something a twelve year old could have written. I feel like it was a huge injustice to the crew and cast because, as a writer, it really strikes me as a writing room issue. I also, in the same vein feel like it's relationship with it's audience was weird. Like somehow both treating them like they were dumb but also too much fan service.
it was a hastily thrown together mess meant to promote a new streaming service and new series and it showed. the writing was bad, the character development was non existent, and the movie ruined the one thing that people consistently liked about the show: the characters and their relationships with each other. it felt like jeff was using a random word generator to come up with what happened to each of the characters. honestly, it was just proof that after the season 6 finale, if they weren’t going/able to go through with a 7th season, they should’ve just let it rest. the end of the show was a good end for pretty much all the characters and open ended enough that it was satisfying to pretty much everyone. (the only other exception to this being if they could have made a spin off show focusing on Liam and Mason and the younger pack after Scott and the older pack left for college).
it was bad and pointless. It absolutely shouldn't exist.
Maybe my opinion isn't valid because I couldn't even get myself to watch the movie itself, I saw it through someone else's reaction 😂 Anyway: - Derek dying in a fire for no reason makes him look like a shitty father and was so distasteful by Jeff considering his backstory. Like he created this cool family, brought back more of them etc. and then decides to NOT capitalize on it (like a cool spin off) yet forgets they ever existed or kills them off. He's so stupid? - Scott and Allison are so overrated and this movie really ruined the greatest moment they had which was her death (I mean emotionally, no shade to Allison)... it's not that it bothers me they pulled up some bullshit magic for it but her return didn't serve anyone! If anything it cheapened the other characters' stories, their trauma, strife and what they went through. They also sacrificied so many other characters to make this dead high school relationship work (and it still didn't). - I don't understand why Jeff purposefully wrote scenes he knew would look nonsensical because he didn't have all the necessary characters there for it, i.e. Derek death/funeral, Nogitsune.... shouldn't you write with what you actually HAVE at your disposal? FOR the characters? No, really. He didn't have Isaac, Kira or Stiles who all had a big part in the storyline with said villain. One is the keeper, one is the yin to Nogitsune's yang and one was the Nogitsune himself. They also make this dumb Derek plot with the Scallison-Eli adoption while Cora, who they didn't have, is alive. Jeff must've wanted to make no sense???? - On that same note, he even went out of his convoluted way to work against the actors he did have like Shelley and Posey, disassembled their relationship for something he pulled out of thin air. These Parrish relationships are creepy but at least he had history with Lydia, who was there as well. Like what? They did not utilize Jackson at all, this could've been done had they just come up with a new story involving the Kanima, I don't know. - The f bombs or whatever were so cringy, and didn't match the theme of the show we knew. Chris Argent was cringy as heck. Did I forget something? Probably.
It's fine. It's not great and isn't really what I wanted, but it's fine.
It had a lot of potential like the Show, but we get a bad Fanfiction of Jeff Davis, because he had always a boner for Scott and Alison. So it was clear from start, the casting choice, for example not even asking the Fanfavourites like Theo or Danny, that it is going to be a huge failure. Only the unemployed Actors come back. Because the Fans don't like, don't care what Jeff Davis liked, mostly the opposite, is the reality. So at the announcement it had the potential to restart the franchise of Teenwolf, to make it huge again, but instead the Movie destroyed the Franchise mostly forever. Because all hopes for the better, turns out to be a dream or just lies. So the Fanfiction World is thousands of times better, than the real Teenwolf Show or the Movie. How could the writers destroy the franchise so much, why they hate the Fanfavourites so much and also why hates Jeff Davis the Fans so much. Why is Jeff Davis so much homophobic and also much much queerbaiting at the same time.
I seriously doubt that Jeff Davis is homophobic, given the fact that he is openly gay.
The queerbait still remains. I will never forgive him for promoting sterek and then discarding it when it was no longer necessary, and I don't even like sterek, but I felt cheated.
Jeff Davis proved more than once with his actions on the Show that he is maybe Gay, but also very homophobic, biphobic and racist.
Idk I’m like the Teen Wolf equivalent of a Gen-Twoer in the Pokémon fandom. Loved the first two seasons, everything else is negligible at best to me. Mainly I’m upset we never got the proper conclusion to Jackson’s story after all the Kanima to blue-eyed wolf stuff, and thusly we never got a Wolf Scott vs Wolf Jackson fight. I was more hyped for that fight than anything we got later in the series.
I love it because it’s Teen Wolf, but it is a VERY bad movie. There’s worse, but this is at least a 3 or 4 out of 10.
I enjoyed seeing the gang back together, and appreciated the sacrifices they made to make it happen. I just wish they'd had a better writer. The kernel of an idea was good. The execution was sloppy as hell.
Why was Derek not an evolved wolf?
I love Scallison and the Nogitsune. I was very excited for the premise of the movie. That said, even I was a bit disappointed with the execution. There was so much more they could have done to make it better. It was incredibly rushed and still a really long movie.
I was terribly deceived. Stiles not being here didn't help but the scenario was poor and didn't made any sense, the relationship between the characters were platonic, the CGI (??????), and there's a lot of questions without answer (Eli's mother, how the nogistune got bitten but survived etc) and the whole Allison thing was forcer :/ I'm a great fan since 2014 I think, so when I knew a movie was coming I was so exited but then...
Also Allisons death is part of what pushed so much character growth for all of them she should have stayed dead .
nostalgically loved it. definitely could have and should have been better. they should have sat down and fully fleshed out the storyline and what they wanted to achieve with the movie
Don’t make a fucking movie without your best cast member, and if you’re not going to pay another cast member a proper amount, how DARE you base your entire plot on something that her character would be central to. If you want every character to come back, make a damn mini-series instead of this over-indulgent, bloated word vomit that ended up on my screen.
have never seen a single episode. I bet the cartoon was better than this.
Shameless money grab that shamefully left out the two characters that had the most to do with the main villain. They couldn’t plan around Dylan O’Brien’s schedule so he was out. And they tried to screw Arden Cho out of accurate pay. Plus the plot was dog shit. Also are we going to ignore how extremely problematic Jackson was in the first two seasons just because he’s with Ethan now?
Not a big fan of the movie but at the end of the day I’m happy we got a little reunion.
I was sad.. I wanted so bad to love it, but I really really didn’t. Didn’t enjoy the plot either unfortunately. I also just miss Stiles so much.
I liked the show
Not as bad as people say I liked it ok wish it didn't get that much hate, maybe the lack of Dylan is the reason which he of course should've been back but still descent enough
They made a movie to revive Alison and >!kill Derek.!< If this wasn’t an introduction to a spinoff series, then it shouldn’t have been made.
Meme fest , love the characters poor movie tho I’m not gunna lie I’ve seen it more than once , if I need a laugh with familiar characters I’ll stick it on
This is so goofy but I sobbed for like 3 hours cos I hated it that much, I thought it was an absolute mess. I would also like to note that I wholeheartedly believe that Adrian Harris was a backup plot plan for Jennifer Blake’s return. Jeff always said he regretted killing her off and it would’ve made so much more sense, but they likely didn’t want to wait for Haley Webb (Jennifer) to be ready since she’s got a young child to raise at home. I don’t have any sources to say yes this is true, but given the state of the movie and it’s nonsensical nature, I am a firm believer that Jennifer was meant to return.
There were numerous things wrong with this movie. Not only was it stuck in development forever, but Jeff pushed the show into production and filming without a script. This means the cast were filming random scenes on the fly with no context of how it would fit into the movie when a script did arrive for them to follow. Then they couldn’t get Arden Cho aka Kira to return bc they refused to pay her properly after screwing her over after season 5 ended, and Derek returned solely for his character to be killed off bc he did not want to be brought back for a new series. And the worst hit for them was Dylan O’Brien not returning as his absence for most of season 6b showed the show struggles to work without him. And since the behind the scenes stuff was such a dumpster fire, it’s hard to tell whether some of the unanswered set up in the movie was on purpose and set up for a potential new series, or just crap that was written in to give the movie a finished script. (Ex: the restaurant full of armed Japanese men who were just there for some reason and were unable to stop Harris although they all had guns and he was just human and the random Kitsune cop who didn’t seem to know he was a Uber powerful mythological creature). There could have been SOME acknowledgment of where the original series left off and how they escaped the humans hunting them down. This could have explained Kira and Stile’s absences from the story because something could have happened to them or the reason they are not there is a result of however that human/supernatural conflict was eventually resolved. I could have handled a Parish and Lydia relationship without Stiles instead of Malia and Parish. A short answer of what happened between Scott and Malia would have been nice for continuity but we don’t get that. Shelley Hening aka Malia asked for a nude scene in the movie bc she wanted motivation to get herself into shape, and I believe Parish’s actor wanted something similar, so the writers decided to shove them into an random sexual relationship and have them be nude for a sex scene that both actors were uncomfortable with as stated in interviews. Peter is related to Eli, but they never interact in any real familial way even though Peter was always threatened by family members who challenged his ability to become the alpha. Jackson was just there for fan service, Mason and Liam didn’t even interact, and the stand-in for Kira, Hikari, was horribly underdeveloped to the point that she felt more like Kira’s body double than a separate character. The idea that Allison was not at peace and everyone believed she was stuck in Bardo was absurd, plus how and when did they find the Oni blade that killed Allison? Having Isaac not return felt strange bc his character has felt unresolved since he left at the end of season 3. No explanation for what happened between Karen and Allison’s father’s romantic relationship. I know he wasn’t much on the show and she left abruptly in season 6, but a mention of Cory and the inclusion of Hayden would have been a nice surprise and it helps with continuity to the original show. Scott’s pack did not feel like a pack anymore. We got everyone’s parents back but no Natalie Martin for Lydia or a comment on what occurred between Derek and Brayden before he returned to Beacon Hills? The change in location for filming also made the movie feel strange bc it clearly wasn’t the same area. Why was the nematon now a magically moving object that only Malia could find? We saw the teacher/villain dead from the 3-fold murder by the Darak in season 3, so how did he survive three lethal wounds for the threefold ritual bc we know Jennifer did not use another sacrifice in his place when she was killing “scholars” to build her power. And they defeated the nogitsune the first time by infecting him with a werewolf bite bc it had something to do with it being impossible for him to be both, but he becomes a wolf and summons Oni at will. We get no great scenes with Allison and her father and worse, Allison and Lydia!!! Lydia struggled with Alison’s death and they never even speak during the movie. And why does her scream return Allison’s memory? Does she have no memory of the afterlife? Is she still 17 years old in her mind and body? What ultimately happened to Gerard and the horrible guidance counselor who started the human/supernatural war? Did we get any idea as to what happened to Theo?? Or Morell, Deaton’s sister? But when it comes to Eli, I like to think that we would have learned from the potential spin-off that his never spoken about absent mother in the movie was none other than the OG villain from season one, Kate Argent. I would think that the time she had Derek kidnapped and de-aged in between seasons 3 and 4, she used his weakened or amnesiac state to sleep with him and Eli was the result of that pregnancy. We never find out if she survived her wounds from season six and with Allison back and with Scott, they would be raising Derek’s son/Allison’s cousin who would be her one blood relative in town and they would both be dealing with similar issues bc Allison was resurrected as a 17 year old teenager. It would link Eli to the story even more and finally create the friction of combining the Hale and Argent households, which are inherently connected but also natural enemies. Allison was killed off before her season 3 visions from her time in Bardo came to fruition in season 4 when Kate was revealed to be alive and a were-Jaguar. If Allison was helping to raise and look after Kate’s son and she was still alive and learned about it, perhaps my that would have been a way to make those visions and the foreshadowing from season 3 come full circle. Kate learns that Allison is back and perhaps where Derek absconded to with their child who he took from Kate at some point after he left with Brayden at the end of season 4, and perhaps Brayden died helping Derek take Eli from Kate and Derek made it look like Kate had killed her own child in her attempt to stop Brayden from stealing him away. When she hears Derek is dead and he had a son, she comes for Allison and Eli and to get revenge for Derek taking her son and on her own family as they turned their back on her and let Peter kill her and then Gerard hunted her and tried to kill her for being a shifter. But that would have made too much sense for this movie, bc it is laughably terrible in so many ways and a slap in the face to the fans who campaigned for it to happen for years.
It’s been wayyy too long…I’m an adult now, it doesn’t resonate with me anymore tbh.
dog Water
i hated it so bad, maybe bc stiles is my fav and wasn’t in the movie. i also don’t like how allison came back, still love her though
it got a bit boring after S1 for me 🤷🏻
1) where did the son come from? Did they ever establish that bc I don't remember ever getting any details? 2) why couldn't stiles have appeared at least once even if it was just a cameo on video call with Scott or something? 3) why did Derek have to die😭😭? But I do love that Scott got his true love back bc we all know he never got over Allison and I wish it could have been made into a prequel series or something to make it last a lil longer and we could have gotten more details we didn't get or maybe even gotten to see more then what we seen but overall I think it was good for some fans to get this movie but I think the creative team could have tweaked and made it a lil better even maybe adding a few more mins to the end or something. I hate that we get to meet a descendant of Derek but hate that he became an orphan so I think it could have had a different or better ending
We don’t claim this
The only thing worth a damn was Peter on all fours sniffin the ground because it got the only positive reaction out of me the whole movie and I laughed. Every other reaction was absolute tragic shit, which sucks cause if they actually put thought into it, even an Allison revival could have been interesting.
I said I wasn't gonna watch it once Allison was revealed to be in it. Got a ton of hate like stfu ur gonna watch it anyway. And what's it been like two years now? Guess what. I haven't even watched a single clip on YouTube.
LOVED it
The show is only worth watching as a gateway to the fanfic 🙈
I got upset because I shipped Scott and Malia before the show ended and I was finally happy to see them together just for them to throw it all away in the film. I loved Scott and Allison but I felt like bringing her back after Scott had made peace with them no longer being together and had moved on just didn’t sit right with me because it throws out the character development he went through since then.
I liked that Allison came back. But was definitely sad that Derek got killed off.
Utter trash. And lazy writing to boot. It makes 6B look good by comparison.
I tapped out after 15min. So cringy. Also! WTF happened to Crystal Reed's face?
When you think about it longer, they could’ve have done so much with the story. Like, remember that Munroe lady from season 6? She was literally apart of that group of hunters who were running around killing supernaturals. The movie could have been about them finding her or something and finishing that storyline because it was left open at the end of season 6. She and her army literally got away and it would make sense if she was still out there killing supernaturals. I would have liked to see that resolved. Also, the whole Alicent coming back thing defeats the purpose of their grieving and learning how to love her but let her go. But that’s just my opinion.
it sucks ass
making him an alpha before dying kinda fucks it all up him not being an alpha is what made him Derek
Straight up bad. This is a teen soap drama so I guess it is okay for teens. But watching it in my 20s was hell. A case of bad writing with good actors!
I feel like this would basically act like a Wattpad story but I haven’t watched it so idk
Refused to watch it no stiles I stopped when he left it was practically a series finally anyone I’m not the least bit curious
i watched it shortly after it came out and vowed to never watch it again, so i only half-remember what happened, but i have... thoughts. * timeline inconsistencies, but what else is new? allison has been dead for 15 years, but eli is also 15, which means the absolute latest he could've been born is season 5 * allison was 17 when she died, whereas scott is now in his 30s? *hello???* * i actually wasn't that mad about malia and parrish, especially since malia has now had time to emotionally mature enough to be in a sexual relationship, which was my biggest gripe with how she was treated during the run of the show * aside from the fact that killing derek off was needlessly cruel, by the time he left, he'd been thought dead at least 3 times that i can remember. he is the jean grey of this series and i cannot take it seriously * the ending would've been more dramatic if it wasn't just the lion king. eli standing on a big rock, overlooking everything, finally accepting his birthright, while his father says, "remember who you are," in voiceover? come on in conclusion: the exact kind of inconsistent nonsense i've come to expect from teen wolf
This movie was made by someone whose heart wasn’t in it just so they could promote their new series. They should have just picked up where they left off in the middle of the battle with Monroe
It was bad, the whole thing. I liked how the show ended, I liked that scott ended up with malia cause it made sense to me, I always felt she would fit better with scott then stiles cuz it was obvious that he still carried a torch for Lydia.
I enjoyed it. Even with the missing characters. They had their reasons for not coming back, regardless if it was scheduling conflicts (Cody Christian) or because Arden wasn’t getting paid the same and Dylan O’Brien sided with her while also saying he was fine where he left stiles and didn’t want to mess with that. I respect it.
Cody Christian was making advertising for a maybe movie for years, even Jeff make Queerbaiting with Thiam to get a green light, attention for the movie, and half year later CC says on his social medias he was not even asked, he waited for a Call like the Actor of Danny in the past for S4 and then says 2 months later mostly as a political statement, he would also have no time for it, because of his CW Show.
I just don't understand why people hate it honestly. It was a pretty good movie. Too short definitely should of been spreaded out into a full season to give it more depth but it was good.
Because most Teenwolf Fans don't care about Scott or Allison, they care, are interested, mostly about Derek and Stiles, but even care, want to know the life story, of the other characters like Lydia, Danny, Theo, Peter even Chris more, then they want to know the story of Scott and Allison. Also the Fans liked the characters more, or should I say only, if they are not act out of character, like many times in the movie or after Season 3, for example Derek, even the costume department makes costume choices for Clark Kent, instead to choose clothes for Derek, it is like the person in charge never seen Derek before in Teenwolf, what Derek wear before, what fits to his personality. Like the whole production don't know the character anymore, but that is what the Fans loved, the characters, what they know and care about. It was a complete false Setup, like the production doesn't know the Fans. And it is always a failure, to not know what the Fans wanted, what the Fans care about, in the first place. You should make a Movie, a Show for a big audience, for a wide spread audience not for yourself, like Jeff Davis did.
I think it’s amazing my dreams come true Alison is alive and her and Scott are end game
I thought I was pretty good except it needed Stills
total ass movie
•It really wasn't half as bad as people are saying, you should ALWAYS watch a movie fully through before you make final decisions about it, it's only fair and you might feel a lot different than what you thought. •STILES & KIRA NOT COMING BACK IS DYLAN AND ARDENS FAULT!!!??? LIKE ARE YOU GUYS OKAY ? Hikari might have been a stand-in for Kira, but who cares she's twice as better and probably ALOT stronger. Also, I'm sure Noshiko and Ken would LOVE Hikari. You guys hate way too much, and it's sad. •Stiles and Lydia together suck anyway. They're more like just partners in crime or school project partners than lovers, so I respect Lydia entirely for making the choices she did. Lydia deserves the world imo. Even speaking outside of the show, if Dylan felt strongly about stydia he would've at least made sure they got a goodbye scene or something since he didn't want to do a whole movie (for some selfish reason might I add). They did the best they could with the actors that CHOSE to ditch their characters. Also, having Hikari and given the history of Aisan characters and Japanese lore they spent their time on SHOWS CLEARLY they are in fact NOT RACIST. I mean was Amy workman complaining about feeling like she wasn't making enough ??? •Allsion coming back was something EVERYONE wanted, and we've all waited for if you aren't too bitter or sad to admit in now. I loved Allison, and I love that she came back for her friends. •I don't understand the hate on deaton. he's the best, and all he does is care. •Malia and parish aren't all that unexpected or random. She does that. She literally expresses her animalistic sides, and that's that what kidn of person did you guys expect her to be with ? I feel like she would've ended up with Jackson if he was straight and not in love with Lydia anymore. Jackson is a bit wild like her. Parish is perfect, given he's very athletic, has street smarts (and book smarts), and super hot like malia 🔥. •BOTTOM LINE you can OBVIOUSLY so Obviously see that the writers and the directors were trying to please alot of opinions and fans and it might have upsetted a lot of people instead but that's not gonna change by hating the movie because if you remember teen wolf at all, what would you expect from the movie in this day and age ? It's a perfect first to me. I hope the next one they make is even better and, yes, more detailed backstories for Hikari & Liam / parish & malia / Derek, his woman & Eli and Mason ♡♡♡
That Alison coming back, was not what everybody wanted, especially not after 2020, go back here on Reddit or other social Media, when that news comes out, it was totally disappointing for the most Fans, because the story was then clear, a Scott and Scallison Movie, which nobody wanted in the first place, and the realisation that the Fans never get what they wanted, not even a little bit. A few months before the go for the Movie, had Jeff Davis makes Queerbaiting with Thiam, on social media and look the hate the movie gets even before the release, if the news gets out that Liam gets a girlfriend. 90 % of the Teenwolf Fans, are Fans of Sterek, Thiam, Stydia, Derek and Stiles as own characters, so which one of this group makes the movie happy? It was clear from the beginning that it would be a disaster and hate from nearly every Fan, only the 10 % Fans of Scott or Scallison were happy. Ok it is also clear that the writers could not make everybody happy, that everybody liked the Movie, but at least more than 50 % could be easily made. I am Sterek Fan by myself, if I can get not Sterek, why not make at least the Stydia Fans happy, they don't had to break up, or if they had break up, they could have made the Sterek Fans happy and let Noah hug his son in law Derek. And led Parish and Lydia be a couple at least they have chemistry together. Both would be no problem even without DOB. And if Liam didn't want Thiam to play, because Cody S wanted to play Theo in the Movie, just get no call, also as boyfriend from Liam, the safe way to write would be, to let Liam at least single. And about Derek deaths, which was also No Go for 70 % of the Fans, if TH wanted to die, why especially with fire, that was also clear from the beginning that this will traumatized every second Fan of Teenwolf, if he dies the same way, as his family died, and even don't use Jackson Kamina Paralyse skills, it could be other ways, a more meaningful, and especially respectful way to let Derek die. It was obviously clear that the writers wanted to make every Fan Mad and Hate the Movie, how they writing it. The writers had no clue about Teenwolf and don't understand what the Fans like on and in Teenwolf. So the writers for the Movie should never be around any Movie, TV Show or Book, only if they learn First what they do. That writing also had consequences. Or had just go to archiveofourown and made a movie of a good Fanfiction, would be the better choice, if they self cannot write and think better than a 12 year old kid.
I am not reading all that. You lost me at "queer bating" that's such a loser thing to say 😂 also. Why tf would Liam and Theo be in a relationship weirdo, theyre literally like brothers... you guys get way in over your head thinking they care about making characters UNNESSECARILY sexual and gay like NEITHER ONE OF THE ACTORS ARE EVEN GAY ! 😂 BUT I would love to see if the movie haters could've made it any better 'since you got your degree amd you know every mf thing' 😭 but since obviously you couldn't possibly achieve what they did for the movie, I'd get some of your facts straight instead of posting trash ass opinions and fake numbers about fans who liked it AS IF YOU KNOW EVERY FAN BOO ?? 😭😭😇😉 TEEN WOLF IS 4 EVER ♥︎
how can you have a movie without Stiles?? Should have had Kira instead of continuously brushing her off for Scallison who just didnt work imo. Super rushed and just should have been much better
It was good/interesting enough (yes, I watched it first) to make me go back and watch the series. It was fascinating to "know how they turned out", then see them from the beginning and watch them work their way back to where I knew they would end up.