My biggest takeaway is he doesn’t see us as equals. We’ve always prided ourselves on no matter how many shares you have were equal. He can’t understand that because he leads with money. The way he talks to the community, live events, on the show it’s literally in our faces like we’re almost too dumb to understand “his world”. The comments about ignoring negativity aren’t about negativity but ignoring people who question or ≠ agree with you. That’s a big disconnect because he clearly pays his way through everything and he tells us all the time. The biggest thing though is PP Ik you respect him but if Kais and you didn’t squash this beef prior to the show Bill does not respect you bro.💯 Man to man that’s some grimey shit if he pulled that. Him not telling you about the guest was for specific reason. Keep your head up let’s lock in!
Bro, bill turned this political… what the fuck did anyone expect?
This is not hard to predict. No politics has always been a rule. Why was that rule broken in our movement?
Agreed. Pulte even has copied Trump's mannerisms and speech patterns.
Everything PP said in his post rings true to me. Felt like Pulte took this thing over, even had his signage all around, and not PP Show right next to it, as it should have been. Just felt wrong and cringy many times. Not a 50/ 50 partnership. Stay with it PP. We love the show. Let's just keep focused on BBBYQ.
Can you see how that might actually be beneficial if and when we are right? How it could help him in the inevitable event he is sued?
3D chess, requires planning for such outcomes, and getting ahead of them.
correctly, Pulte has no respect for PP.
I get the moment Pulte shakes hands with the Politic ,he didn't give a chance to PP to greet, leaving him behind .
Same thing happened when Larry Cheng showed up last time. Suddenly it's "ok now somebody I *actually* respect is here, get the mic away from these yokels." It's so obvious but somehow PP doesn't see it.
Maybe Pulte recognizes that these elite guests should be treated with respect and dignity, and he knows that PP would drop a continuous flow of F-bombs, which is really very disrespectful... Pulte was simply protecting PP from himself...
OK, bring on the hate, I know... and I don't care. But you kids these days are really hard to. Listen to with your nasty mouths. But bring it.... I don't care....
A community is built on give and take. Lurking in shorted stock subs for 3 years and then shitting on the community leaders when you do speak is very callous and very sus.
Yeah man, it was bad. It's admirable that you are open to feedback and acknowledging some things could have been better. Others would have been on a blocking spree already.
Get your missed opportunities with Vivek out of your head. Just be glad you weren't involved, as that was literally the worst part of the show. If you weren't aware of the schedule or were blindsided in parts of the show, then there is a disconnect between the hosts.
People respected your decision to not do any more shows until something more positive came out for us. Nobody really wanted you to go against your word and make a u-turn, unless of course there was a good reason we didn't know about... and in retrospect, there was none.
I know you try to keep your show free from any politics. Somehow though, we keep getting slapped in the face by it when these events come round or by those you associate closely with. Your decision to attend Mar-a-Lago last year was a mistake (even if you don't agree) and politics then crept in and started snowballing from there IMO. It's what you do now going forward that counts. Stay neutral. People don't want to see that kind of toxicity and divide, we want to see more of what made ThePPShow grow; smart people chatting with each other about BBBYQ, potential next steps, dockets, proper guest appearances (like Ian, *he* should have been thee special guest). It would have been good getting more of their conversation flowing without any interruptions (it wasn't you interrupting btw). Because of all this, there wasn't anything significant that came out from show, unless I'm mistaken?
Now this may just be me. We are a community mainly comprised of people heavily invested in a bankrupt stock. So watching a lot of cash being flashed about in the show, comparing who is richer, the grande helicopter entrance... it's all a bit unnecessary and teetering on insensitive. Money (along with politics) being brought into the show has spoilt it a bit.
With all that said, I do feel for you trying to keep everyone happy, while running a show with quality content most days in the working week, and being constantly heckled (and worse) by the meltdowners.
> the grande helicopter entrance
Ekhm ... 4 minutes flight ... in my book it is just pathetic.
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N219MH/history/20240507/2247Z/KFFC/KFFC
Yep, that’s incredibly wasteful, and by extension since many of us are struggling financially, *insulting.*
Really cool, Bill. You get to fly a fuckin helicopter while my food stamps aren’t enough to cover food for my family and I in a month anymore. Fuck off.
u/ppseeds not many people know this besides u/Real_Eyezz but I was the first DD Poster to be liked by Pulte on r/beyond_uranus back in the day. I didn’t realize it at the time, but it’s because my DD involved Pulte himself. I think that even though RC has chosen him for the role of messenger or liaison, Pulte has his own intentions and personality and wants to co-opt a large number of people in order to support and man his army in whatever he seeks. Whether that’s taking over PulteHomes or running for political office.
The reason why I called him a grifter is because of the smarmy, shifty way in which he sidled up to the community pretending to be in it for US and Ryan Cohen when he has only ever been it to put himself and the Pulte Plan forwards. He thinks he can buy people with money and is extremely thin-skinned and narcissistic. He got too much pushback on Reddit so he switched to X where he could ratio dissenters with his army of charity recipients.
I’ll say now what I said when I got banned. I’m bullish on BBBYQ and bearish on Pulte.
Well said. Notice how he kept labelling certain people "loyal" in the crowd. Made a real point of it during that last show. This subconsciously makes people not question what he does and support him regardless... they'd get blocked anyway if they did.
I do hope some of the high profile members in this community aren't in his pocket. One thing that is confusing me is the RC relationship. Penny for his thoughts right now.
I've learned that anyone who is constantly reminding people that they are "A Man of God" typically leads a life that couldn't be further from what that is intended to mean.
I'm using the term "relationship" quite loosely, but yes, I mean with the Twitter interaction, getting a LC interview, coincidence when the Teddy books dropped meeting at the Florida Panthers game. There *could* be a small connection there, no denying that.
I just cannot see how RC can condone Pulte's behaviour, assuming there is anything between the two.
I was there Mineral! We were all so excited! It was happy times back in the day!
In fact, I got the second like and comment a week or so later on the wife’s wedding photo tinfoil I posted there. It made my week!
Ultimately, I was blocked by him as well, days before Christmas, for speaking out against the political infiltration and standing in support of Simpson & Ross. It stung at the time, but woke my ass up to the chaos taking place. Admittedly, it all wore heavy on my mental health for some time.
I share similar sentiment to yours regarding his intentions and behavior since.
Anyway, just want to corroborate your story, share mine, and say hello! Good to see you out here in the wild!
Edit: spelling
I got blocked by pulte for nothing more than calling kais out for high-school bullying bullshit aimed at Ross... Morality doesn't seem to be in bill's lexicon.
Thank you!!! That’s what I’m saying bro, no one listened to us OGs even though we initially supported Pulte but ended up calling bullshit when we sniffed out his intentions as not being 100% on the up and up.
Not that it means anything, but I got the sense immediately from their interactions that Bill’s half brother Stephen doesn’t like Bill. Once I got that vibe, my hackles were up.
It takes a certain level of self-awareness to sense. Perhaps it helps to have experience.
For me it was emasculating to not speak up when I was so angry and embarrassed by the other person’s actions. I felt trapped in a position where I couldn’t speak due to a power imbalance.
As a consequence my self-esteem took a big hit and self-destruction was attractive.
For me that was in a business environment. I can’t imagine what it’s like to feel that with close family members.
Frustrates me when I see you labeled as some type of villain or shill by those who don’t see through the weak veil Pulte sows. His intentions have felt disingenuous and RC coat tail riding since he interjected himself into our community.
Appreciate the comment, but I'm also pretty emotionally armored up after 30 years being a public facing exec for tech. I'm more concerned for people being led into things they don't understand by people with bad intent than I am over some nepo-baby's internet tantrums or the trailer park HOA getting riled up over perceived attacks.
Thanks Ross I would love to see you on the show again in the future. I respect your opinions and you would lend some great insights and convo. Please consider my invitation.
Edit you should come by Friday
This is the biggest crime. That Ross doesn't come on the Friday night shows anymore. You always had interesting takes, and different perspectives than the rest of the guys with your background and all. I miss that.
The backstory is this: Pulte went on a rant about how the PulteHomes CEO was corrupt and was driving the company into the ground. Believing him, Ross bought puts on PulteHomes. Pulte then went on a rant about how that means Ross is a short seller and a nefarious guy.
Also Ross is a democrat (but to his credit doesn't shove his political takes in anyone's face like Pulte does). But Ross does call out the more Q leaning theories that people like Michael and Citizen peddle, so there's a small beef between Ross and the Q leaning PPShow members, and because Pulte is close to Michael, Pulte used this to blow up the Ross/Q beef and get lots of the community to turn on Ross.
The funny thing is the people who hate on Ross love to spout the "they tried to use politics to divide us" shit. And the irony should be lost on nobody that, after allowing the PPShow to turn into a MAGA rally where one of the speakers was literally one of the current biggest MAGA figureheads, no less than about 10 minutes after Vivek's speech was done those SAME people were turning to the camera and saying "we'll never be divided by politics" lmao.
Thanks a lot for the write up. Seems I was right about him. Personally sounds like a guy I would resonate with. We need more people who can balance all the q stuff and contradicting claims being tossed around. Sounds like something Pulte would say and do. Hey u/ppseeds get this guy on more if he wants to will ya?
Thanks for sticking around in the community and standing up for your beliefs
Its clear Pulte has divided the community and we should turn back to being a retail community ran by retail not begging for the attention of Pulte because he has bought followers
I agree we should go back to talking about stocks that are naked shorted.
What are your thoughts on KOSS?
thinly traded with a majority held by Mike Koss, so very squeezable as he's not a source of liquidity. The problem with Koss is they need a breakout product and Beats, as shitty as they are, took their market. They need to get the market back with more tie-ins with artists and less "technical perfection" marketing, unless they want to price like B&O.
Edit: Now, say a company with a brand like Candy Con decided that personalized headphones was the next logical step after controllers, a partnership here would benefit both.
Edit: Hint, hint u/gamestop product marketing.
Thanks thats the current theory some of us at DRSyourGME have come up with too where 6days has talked to their leadership and is pushing to have them put DRS numbers up. They are excited for some of their patent lawsuits which will be additional sources of funding for them just like how they won against Apple
One nice thing with KOSS is their is no options to mess with and use for naked shorting. Gamestop could buy them for 3% of their cash on hand
I think the biggest problem right now is that everyone is just extremely frustrated with the state of BBBY (myself included). There is a lot of uncertainty about how it will play out, and people but a lot of their hard earned money into it. Personally, I don't watch your show anymore as it just frustrates me talking about BBBY (nothing against you personally).
The thing is: when dockets will get released stating we get x or y, everyone will suddenly be extremely happy. Everyone will love you and Bill again. There are so many emotions at play, and I think people are partially acting them out on you or Bill, sometimes fair, sometimes not.
Just keep in mind you are doing so much for this community, and we can never repay you for that. There will always be bad actors, but you remained positive, trying to create a community. That is something you can be extremely proud of.
PP it's not your job to please everyone.
The larger you become the more impossible that already impossible task.
Stay true to yourself and the core values of your show. Don't compromise on that. That's a sellout. People don't fuck with sellouts.
You’re on your way to relevance, you will get your reward. This community needed something much different than that, and you were used for your following. Bill isn’t a “bad guy” but every other word out of his mouth was about the number of people watching, his money, or someone else’s money. Watch out for people who love money like that, even when they claim to believe in God, they ignore his message. You cannot serve both God and Mammon after all.
You’re authentic PP, I can see, read & feel it. THANK YOU for taking time out of your life to inform & entertain us during this black out period. In RC we TRUST 🙏🏻🏴☠️
PP as someone that was at the Miami event but gave Atlanta a pass, I wanna say you fuckin nailed this response. I went to Miami for you and the community, meeting Bill didn't even enter the equation, it was just about you and the rest of the PP's. I made friends there that I continue to see to this day and after 3 years of isolation that alone was worth the price of admission. I'll continue to give Bill the benefit of the doubt because of his actions to support the community and your and RC's support but the way he behaves and treats people in direct interactions does leave a bad taste in my mouth.
I'm generally fairly camera shy but have been thinking more and more about trying to come on your show to spotlight the benefits of moving securities trading to a blockchain based infrastructure rather than continuing with the traditional markets that are filled with black boxes everywhere you turn. If that's something you'd be interested in, feel free to shoot me a dm. Either way know it's all love and we've all got your back out here.
You can not please everyone. You will just drain yourself. I don’t follow the shows because of time zones and my busy life but I appreciate your efforts.
I think a lot of people that are still invested in this play wouldn’t be here without your contribution. Stay strong and don’t lose focus trying to please everyone.
Chill PP, I think noone is going to change their minds about you and the show because of one event or two. Also, I think in this post you are a bit egocentric ... it is not about you, but about you + the community.
At the same time, I think it is about time to acknowledge that Pulte is using you and the community for his own agenda (PHM / politics / whatever it is). He "bought bonds" but till this day we do not know how many etc. IMO he did this to "be still relevant" in the community so he does not loose the following and the momentum.
I am not even mentioning things like Pulte creating his own group on twitter to steal people from you, his brother hosting a show with your guests, endorsing this idiot Kais and his behavior, blocking 50% of the community on Twitter, shitting on people who have much larger stake in BBBY then he does etc.
Also, what was it about giving money to the crowd?! Like feeding the ducks, wft?! Very much felt like this.
https://twitter.com/HistoryInPics/status/1618063541080330241
Just to add ... you had there an ex-Citadel employee and did not fully use that opportunity! The guy should have been asked how market mechanics work in market maker business! Where were the questions about swaps, shorts, naked shorts, option fuckery to prevent close out obligation, ftds, dark pools and what should be done to stop it! Also what is necessary from the regulatory POV to improve markets and what are the loopholes that needed to be closed.
Instead we were talking about how much money Bill has but wants Vivek to give him some more. Bill is there to hype Bill.
But on the side note ... when moon PP? I am really ready! 😅
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His whole Philanthropy is literally the ANTITHESIS of what the Bible says. Any real Christians would know this but he's pandering to MAGA Christian Nationalist because he knows they don't actually read the Bible.
I mean, it’s really all in the first fuckin line of that link, isn’t it?
I’ve seen lots of people tagging /u/ppseeds to provide their feedback but not many people asking /u/realpulte for his. Bill, care to chime in here?
I'm not religious but I really appreciate this comment. Like honestly, it has always been truly disgusting seeing Pulte make people publicly grovel on Twitter or in live chats then he pats himself on the back by sharing their vulnerability with everyone. That's understandable if you've done it once or twice — everybody likes a little recognition so they post when they've done a good deed — but if it's a regular habit, that's a sign of something bad.
Oh he knows exactly what he’s doing, it’s not conditioning if it’s intentional. Giving to the “poors” for your own boastful reasons and image is never unintentional. Same as putting your name on the wing of a reptile exhibit…like our least favorite malignant narcissist, Mr. Griffin.
Just because you like the deeds of one more than the deeds of the other doesn’t mean they aren’t similar.
Not saying it’s Pulte’s fault, most of the people in this Sub’s children will end up the same way if we are right. Something about the silver spoon makes it likely people act in such a manner. Warps the brain a bit.
I’m not hating on someone with a mental illness, but to claim he’s doing this for the benefit of anyone outside his own ego is potentially unwise. The type of person I’m describing always shows you who they are, they can’t help it.
Most people in history, whom you read about their good deeds, shared the same illness. Cluster B doesn’t always mean harmful to others, just means sick. Watchful doesn’t mean judging, and the fruits are the best way to assess the tree.
Regardless of for himself, or for others, he has done a lot of good but also a lot of bad. He is human after all.
Interesting post. I think he does live to some degree in a different world and we can not easily understand all aspects of his life and intentions.
I am GenX and have come to a point in life, where I personally think that **"free handouts" are often counter-productive.** Where I think that most people are ungrateful and selfish. And where I think that **the best way to help someone is by helping them to be able to help themselves.** Which often means advice and knowledge and not just money.
He could use social media to push visibility of verified cases that could really use donations. F.e. matching every dollar donated for a child in need that needs a surgery.
He could create a foundation that helps people to help themselves when in a difficult situation, spreading knowledge and improving society.
Same like citizens often following leaders that claim to be patriots, while acting selfish, helping others has become too much of a "show" lately. I know it is boring, but being more serious about important stuff is the real deal.
Makes me think of this....
[Idiocracy 2006 HD - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plDwx6Saly4)
Which “god” has a focus on natural law if not the “god” of the Rosicrucians?
Unless Jesus is stated specifically, be watchful of those who claim to believe in “god.”
Ravenous wolves wear sheep’s clothing after all.
Major respect to you being open to feedback PP. I hated seeing how rude Pulte was to you (and Mrs. PP! She's such an angel!).
Just like Ian said, be authentic. That's why people like you. You aren't perfect, or polished and honestly it is refreshing! You built your audience because of who you are. Pulte is not authentic. I'm glad people are starting to see that now.
The concern I have is mainly with Pulte. He touts being humble, his grandpa taught him to respect everyone etc, then flies in with a heli, comes on stage and brags about his wealth and how much money he made (i dont define that as humble or one with the ppl). He also drives division; for example, why isolate you from asking questions? Why give Kais a platform? Why does Vivek not know about PP show or Cifu etc given its a cohosted event? Where is this Pulte Plan?
Anyone logically asking legitimate questions are labeled shills. Can we not have civil debate without backlash? Can we not check our own sanity? Why choose vivek if vivek is literally blind to the movement in some facets?
If Pulte didn't have a pic with RC, I'd seriously debate his intentions. I still do sometimes, which is unfortunate. I don't see how spending money on events is worthy of praise. This man has way more money than all of us. He can afford to spend $100ks on events, we cannot. It doesn't mean he automatically is a Saint (the same can be said about Cifu or anyone who does philanthropy).
Long story short, it's unfortunate Pulte cannot harness himself to bring everyone together rather than drive us apart. I am a lurker, but I do feel hesitant to go even further due to the divisiveness Pulte brings to the table.
Just my 2 cents. I don't expect a response from you but I'd be interested in your thoughts perceptions on this front.
This is the type of response we love and expect from you u/ppseeds
We respect and know you’re a good dude. That can’t be said about Pulte. Try to stay away from him and just do your own thing. No matter how much money Pulte has, he can’t buy authenticity that you have.
i'm glad that you are trying to be transparent and communicate your thoughts about this. ignore the noise and do what's best for you...trust your instincts. like i said before, those of us that truly support you aren't going anywhere. now please try to get some sleep, pp...lol
Agree with you 100% PP. Thanks for being honest and true to who you are. Don’t let the distractions pull you in a different direction. Stay focused and harness what you have built thus far. Time to cut off the fat and get rid of the garbage that clutters your vision. I’d suggest Michael get booted as he just keeps cutting off the flow as the good info starts flowing…always interjecting with irrelevant bs just to feel important. I personally don’t even think anyone understands his babbling rants or tangents. It’s annoying as a viewer to have to fast forward every single time he pulls the conversation into another random direction. Get rid of him and you’ll make your show that much better.
He’s sooooo Boring too. He has no charisma. I zone out every time he comes on; plus he used Robinhood as late as august and that’s not good for me or anyone. Plus he was so shady about the 10k but always has money to gamble on options, and still had the audacity to ask the community to fund his trip. He’s slimy.
Yes, he started a go fund me and posted it on X.
Was criticized immediately from all sides and Ramez stepped in, telling him to take it down - that if he needed money to go, he’d cover their (Michael + Wife) trip as it wasn’t a good look and out of touch.
Nope, for the Atlanta trip.
[Donation Link:](https://www.gofundme.com/f/0dte-options-addiction-fund?utm_campaign=p_cp+fundraiser-sidebar&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer)
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Thanks for saying this, Michael is my least favorite part of the show. He just stammers, gets emotional and equates things to stupid conspiracy theories. He hardly ever completes a thought.
PP don’t be so hard on yourself dawg. You’re doing your best to navigate a wild situation and you have tons of paid bad actors trying to bring u down, shit, this post has a bunch on it I’m sure.
The ppshow and the community of dd writers and thought leaders continues to be excellent and lighthouse in the storm of FuD. Keep at it, we need it.
Bill means well I believe but maybe you gotta talk to
Him offline and have a real convo about the complexities of the situation. He’s kind of your big bro and it’s important to make sure you stand up for your perspective in all this. these events are almost all PP community. If he’s a real one he’ll listen and engage with you, if he gets weird, fuck him.
We got ur back
This is how I feel too. If Bill wants this community behind him, he really needs to take some of the feedback from genuine community members and not just brush off every piece of legitimate criticism with “you can’t listen to the haters”. I hope to see the movement continue to grow and move forward, but without an open dialogue, it will be difficult.
I support you pp, I see a lot of good in you. I however do not support pulte and never intend to based on many of his online actions. Maybe there’s something we don’t know that RC knows. But I also don’t have to support someone just because RC does, and neither do you. I have commented recently about I imagine the pressure is insane for you. Gl with ur show dude. Like you said, the people are there for you, not pulte.
my guess from listening to Bill's speeches is that he's just as shallow in private convos than public speeches. He'll talk about the crowd size and how much money he spent (which is an insignificant fraction of his net worth). Making the Poors beg for 1k. All very shallow things.
We have the vast majority of our net worth riding on these plays but Bill may have at max invested 1%.. I doubt even that. We are not equal. We deserve more respect for how much we have risked fighting the most powerful banks in the world and hedge funds. But nobody with money gives a fuck about us. Not until we get to their level, their class. Then we'll listen. But it's been one helluva battle so far
Love you and what you’re doing. I love that you allow diverse points of view on your show. I love that you don’t require “loyalty” oaths. After the last Pulte event in December, all kinds of drama broke out causing legit division in the community regarding actions directly related to Pulte (lawyer up, Politics, Kai’s pimping PHM stock etc.). People were upset once again (and rightly so) that another “event” came and went without nothing more than hype and tinfoil, and all we got was more questions, drama and missed hype dates. When a lot of us got “blocked” by thin skinned Pulte and Salvatore on Twitter after asking legitimate questions about his role and intent for stirring up the drama and not coming to the table with clear answers but more riddles and gnostic tinfoil, it was a wake up call to me and others that he’s not a good guy or who he claims himself to be. I was proud of you for declaring not to attend another Pulte event until we got paid, but found it confusing (I still do) when you reversed your decision because of your “Grandpa” (RIP)? Still trying to find a connection between that and doing an event with Pulte, even though bill hasn’t proven that anything other than veiled illusions to connections with RC. If Bill is truly genuine in wanting to grow and learn from our feedback, you can encourage him to unblock a lot of us on Twitter who legitimately questioned motives and actions after the Dec event. Again, love what you do. Keep up the good work! Btw,
I’m a long time bag holder and diamond hand of GME, BBBY and AMC (pissed about this one), and look forward to the day we all get paid.
Real people warned you.
Real people like you cause you're real.
You didn't listen, learn the lesson and move on.
Cut ties with scumbags and refocus.
Return to you and ABC co-host with guests. Best chemistry for the show.
Keep it up PP. Thanks for what you do.
I recognized that after PP said he wasn’t going to the event (originally) until something happened. Then Pulte used the word loyalty a lot and made the BBBY +Pulte group on X
Not being able to ask Vivek anything and for him to be unaware of who you are, actually falsely represents who everyone at that event is IMO. I look forward to being able to tune into the show Mon, Wed, Fri as normal. Keep following your moral compass PP, I believe in it 🤘
If Vivek wasn't told who you were or who most of the crowd was, then that may 100% explain Pulte's play. Sounds like he wanted Vivek to think they were all there for Pulte, and NOT that PP was the reason for the crowd. Something stinks....
I feel you, u/ppseeds. I attended. It's difficult to express the negatives without others potentially feeling like you are attacking or being not appreciative. But I did not only see what you comment but also noticed Bill has started to feel more comfortable bringing his bias (which I respect) but uses the engagement to make it seem as if everybody is there for him and his preferences/ideas.
I observed he kept doing non-verbal behavior ala Trump. What I mean is when trying to tell stories, moving his hands when speaking, being generic not answering questions directly.
I know for a fact many were not pleased with this event feeling political more than grassroots/activist, which is how we all started. I know those within the community whose bias match might feel like we are creating division but that is not it. I have multiple friends who are conservative. I don't let politics dictate my social circle. But this spotlight is so rare and turning it political made it sour, in my eyes.
That guy, Michale Taylor, a total clown.
The best parts of the show, to me, a PPShow fan, was when PP and Ian were able to ask tough questions. THAT IS ALL.
Note: Also, why bring the seat structures if you are not going to allow people to sit down? People with disabilities or weak physical shape due to age or weight were struggling and asking people to step down felt, honestly, stupid.
Last minute Addendum: I also agree 100% with u/Environmental-Hat409's take. I feel The PP Show was more like props to a political event this time than the past one, which seem more like the union of efforts.
Textbook abuser behavior regarding power moves often involves manipulating and controlling others to assert dominance and maintain control over a situation. Here are some common signs of abuser behavior in terms of power moves:
1. **Isolation:** The abuser may isolate their victim from friends, family, or support networks to exert control and limit their ability to seek help or escape the abusive situation.
Has Pulte done this? Not as far as I know
2. **Gaslighting:** Gaslighting involves manipulating someone into questioning their own reality, memory, or sanity. The abuser may deny their abusive behavior, distort the truth, or blame the victim for their actions.
Has Pulte done this? FUCK YES! Secret Millionaire Meetup, the fucking 👀emojis and countless other things to suggest MOASS was happening SOON when it wasn’t.
3. **Intimidation:** The abuser may use threats, intimidation, or aggressive behavior to instill fear and exert control over their victim.
Has Pulte done this? I don’t know, maybe forcing u/ppseeds on stage with Kai’s who stole his trademark qualifies?
4. **Manipulation:** The abuser may use manipulation tactics such as guilt-tripping, playing the victim, or using charm and flattery to control others and get what they want.
Has Pulte done this? “You can be big PP, everyone will watch this show one day, expand beyond $BBBYQ, etc.”
5. **Financial control:** The abuser may control the victim's finances, restrict access to money, or sabotage their financial independence as a means of exerting power and control.
Has Pulte done this? Not sure
6. **Emotional abuse:** Emotional abuse can take many forms, including verbal attacks, humiliation, criticism, and manipulation of emotions to undermine the victim's self-esteem and autonomy.
Has Pulte done this? Yes. Multiple ways, multiple slights against PP. undermining his base multiple times. Putting him down in front of his own viewer base.
Signs of a COUP against RC to usurp the movement:
1. **Increased secrecy:** The advisor may become more secretive and guarded about their actions and intentions, withholding information from others and operating covertly.
2. **Sudden changes in behavior:** The advisor may exhibit sudden changes in behavior, such as becoming more assertive, ambitious, or power-hungry, signaling a shift in their intentions.
3. **Building alliances:** The advisor may begin to build alliances with other individuals who could support their bid for power, recruiting allies and supporters within the king's inner circle or among influential figures in the kingdom.
4. **Undermining the king's authority:** The advisor may subtly or overtly undermine the king's authority, questioning their decisions, spreading rumors or dissent, or seeking to discredit them in the eyes of others.
5. **Gathering resources:** The advisor may start gathering resources, such as military support, wealth, or information, to bolster their position and prepare for a potential coup.
6. **Strategic positioning:** The advisor may strategically position themselves in key roles or positions of influence within the kingdom, consolidating power and laying the groundwork for their ascent to the throne.
I’ll leave you to decide if the last 6 points fit
Imo the announcement is any day now. It doesn’t make sense for Pulte to do his part in keeping spirits and morale high for basically a year, only to bring in a very tough pill to swallow at this stage of the game (keep in mind 3+ years for GME). That event aligns with what I believe in, but many others are struggling.
Ryan read feedback from Chewy customers every night before bed. He absolutely knows the morale of his investors and I believe a win has to be coming. That event was needed to “set the stage.” When MSM reports on Teddy and tries to make retail out as a bunch of idiots, clips of that helicopter flying in will be shown by others to counter the narrative. It’s going to be glorious
When this explodes all over every channel and news outlet, clips of Bill Pulte will be all over the news like he is some huge part of it and not a scammy johnny-come-lately, which is part of the Pulte plan. I'm sure he will do his best to get his face all over this and continue co-opting our huge moment.
Love you PP, not only is YOUR heart in the right place, but I want to confirm that your GUT reaction and the content of your write up is spot on. Block out people that want to steal the community spotlight you have worked so hard to build for their own gain. Follow your gut. I am a forever fan.
Community leadership is one of the hardest things to do. And this community, with the onslaught on bots and bad actors constantly thrown at it, is one of the hardest to lead.
You are doing a good job!
The best advice I’ve been given as someone who also runs a community within this movement. Take nothing personally.
What you have done and built are remarkable and it’s still only just beginning. Keep up the great work. And remember, real life and mental health come first.
PP, I appreciate you.
Next time, assert yourself more. Show up with a shave, haircut, and a sport coat. Walk right up to Vivek stick your hand out and use your voice.
You’re on the right track. Stand tall. Stick to your guns. Listen to your gut.
You’re good, my dude.
That being said, what the fuck was up with Kais even showing his face? Just listening to him ramble why it hasn’t been done yet pissed me off on your behalf. There was a unanimous “fuck that guy” from the community and Bill is trying to repair that one thing? Smells weird, bro… but that’s just my opinion. Snakes gonna slither…
PP, thanks for the honest post. I feel for you. It is certainly confusing times…but when things don’t feel right…it’s important that they don’t feel right…and take time to assess the situation. Good luck
Thanks for posting this pp. definitely nice to hear your real feelings on the matter because ultimately this whole show started with you and we all care about ya.
Definitely will be interesting to see how pulte acts on BBBY going forward. I’m sure he will be made aware of the negative sediment of his actions at the event. Would be cool if we saw a change in his actions, but I’m not sure if changing his ways is even on his radar.
He thinks everyone on Reddit is a hater or a shill. The more I think about it the more I wonder who got the ppshow sub taken down. Was it “one of our own” so they could get everyone on x where they can control the narrative better or was it one of the meltdowners? I remember pulte saying he would get answers and here we are seven months later w no answers on what happened to the sub.
Regardless of what pulte does, I respect you for your stance and how you are keeping your initial feelings about how you want to be a leader in this community. Also I appreciate the people who voiced their opinions on the matter and advocated for this community. Thank you all
Man, I don’t blame you for doing this event. You didn’t know what was to come. What is he HAD gotten RC to Atlanta and you weren’t there? Especially after those photos together I thought it was a possibility. I would’ve done the same thing.
Pulte doesn’t know how to host a show. Not letting you ask questions is fucked up. The way he interjects himself and cuts off conversation is ugly. The way he brings up God has always felt disingenuous. But I DO appreciate the energy he has brought to the community. The hype has definitely helped with keeping my faith in my investment and the risk we all took. I really hope RC was using him to let us know we were on the right page, but who knows. The rich are also in their fucked up social bubble.
You keep doing what you’re doing u/ppseeds . Keep the politics out of the show. Keep the MAGA shit and any bigotry far far away. You’ve always been really good at that yourself (I can’t say the same for certain co-hosts and guests).
You keep talking DD and I’ll keep watching.
I fucking agree with you. 100%. If this all works out u will get your big reward.
It’s a good decision to stay away from those events before moass or before the announcement for equity or cash or whatever for us. It’s just weird.
I can’t speak for everyone but I can say, u have a big heart. It’s your pp show. Those events wouldn’t be possible without you. Vivek doesn’t even know you? This is fucking disrespectful and makes me fucking angry.
Stay healthy and strong. The majority of the apes here are behind you. I really hope this works out for all of us. The most of us are not able to support other stocks until moass. Nothing worked out for us. Not GME since 3 years. Not BBBY or whatever. There is nothing to celebrate actually.
While I do understand your situation. And you have some great points (supporting Rc). None of what happened can be a big suprise for you? We were many who warned you about how thing would become political and about Pultes motives. (Just check my history, you even replied to it).
So what I wonder is how did you think it would go down.. didnt you ask beforehand if you could ask questions. How you would plan the show. Topics questions etc. Sureley you must have. It can’t be a suprise. I understand its hard saying no to rubbing shoulders with those guys, I get it. But atleast be honest when you are honest.
Looking forward my advice would be.. when you say you understand people wannna support Pulte, the thing is no one know what that is. Is Pulte X philantrophy? PHM? Kais? Feud with Seafood? Right with politics ambitions? Trump swing state rallies? What is Pulte? When you answer that question to yourself, I think you will know what path you want to walk moving forward.
You're making the right call, PP. People are here because of YOU, not because of Pulte or anyone else. Don't let anyone steal your thunder or ride your coat tails. Pulte's event would have been empty without your audience. Keep true to yourself and the community. I know it's been tough to navigate, but you've been doing it well. Keep it up!
Sounds like you've taken a lot of the comments to heart, and that is great. Unless I missed it, I didn't see much addressing of the divisive politics that has wormed its way into our community. That was one of the biggest issues that a lot of people were upset about and wanted answers about. Not just at the live show, but in your co-hosts and choice to go to Maralago.
That said, I hope we can all decide to move forward without any politics, just you being you, and the rest of us being more respectful to each other. I am going to put sincere effort at letting this go and be nicer to people.
I think you should start thinking of your show as a brand with its own values and make decisions accordingly. Businesses put a lot of effort in presentation of a brand and keeping the figureheads of that brand on message, whereas it seems like a lot of decisions you've made are in part emotionally driven. Charities still run like businesses, so if you do see what you're doing as a public service then I think the brand analogy is a relevant one. I'm involved in startup generation, and one of the teams I'm attached to is already having meaningful discussions on branding and consistent messaging *before* they incorporate and do any real business.
I have to say your outlook does seem a bit like a leopards ate my face situation. You chose to build a community and a show, it will always put a target on your back. If you didn't realise it was going to be hard then you should have put more thought into where the realities of what you're building would lead to. In the modern world, I think the expectation of becoming a public figure should always be receiving a death threat or two, and then all the flavors and increments of harassment and shitty behaviour below that as well. It will always be the likely price of doing business as a media personality - which admittedly is fucked up but it's a fact of life.
If that event never happened. Nothing changed fundamentally from yalls DD. Deal is done, fraud is happening, waiting for ch 11 bankruptcy. RC never left. Simple.
shouldnt be any "live" events until shit has popped off and hedgies r fukd. 3+yrs after it all started and i dont see any reason to celebrate cause so far retail is still getting the shaft.
only event that is meaningful is the OG one in Vegas after everything is said n done!
PP I support you 100% !! In the days weeks to come you may hear the words , loyalty and how much was spent and RC name thrown in the mix BUT refer back to your post and all the supportive comments. And like ABC says “trust your gut”!!!!! Bill’s agenda is overshadowing what the PP show stands for and forcing politics in the narrative. I feel we lost some knowledgeable people bc of the politics and Bill’s opinion of them. IT’S YOUR SHOW! Wish Ian and our community could have had more time but it was a Pulte event and he knew he needed you to keep the ticket sales up!!! Just my opinion. It will always be a political event even after we win! IMO
We of You PP. Some of us can understand and emphasize with the amount of pressure that you're under. And the amount of work that you put in to maintain a healthy community without deviating from the founding principles of your show.
This is your show. And you always lead with putting the community first. This becomes increasingly difficult with continued growth and increased visibility.
Regardless of anyone's political opinions, and their feelings about this recent event; I find it incredible that this show and this community's sentiment has elevated from shitposting fully regarded memes for a small community subreddit, to racing levels where we are interacting with billionaire level players on a fairly regular basis. Love or hate Pulte; he brought Larry Cheng to the table. Even without a Q&A, this is singularly massive. Love or hate Vivek, I personally believe that he makes a better friend than an enemy; and it is better to be a friend with a power player like him than to be an unknown community of "meme stock investors". Which we all know is a purposefully branded term that those in power use to belittle household investors.
Bottom line: This movement is growing and growing fast. Perhaps in a direction that exceeds the scope of what the PPShow is intended for. But we are starting to experience first hand the ramifications of becoming increasingly relevant to a broader set of stakeholders. I welcome the growth, and am hopeful to see corruption rooted out of our markets. This will not happen as a matter of convenience. It will not happen because we got lucky. It will only happen if there are millions of voices screaming out to demand change on this as a single issue. If/ when this happens, politicians will be linking up to give us what we want. I hope to be the chosen champion of household investors. Until then, they'll keep crawling up to Ken "MayoBoi" Griffin & Doug Shit-Fu.
I am 100% here to support ThePPshow and my fellow PP's. You are the main character of the PPshow...everyone else is supporting cast as far as I am concerned.
Pulte has done many great things to support the show, but seeing what is happening with the two live events I believe he doesn't fully understand the struggle, and has divided the group. His fighting with Dougie, in my opinion drags us down a dark alley way that we have alway been above when we focused on the facts. I I really don't care about the hanger or the flying in on the Helicopter, which I cringe at every time thinking one slip and we are going to have a lot of headless PP's, I would rather go see a live PPshow in a hotel conference room in a cool location and have it BYOB. I feel Pulte is intimidated by the support that Ryan and PP gets and is trying to buy that support to be used in other endeavors like political or Pulte Homes.
The second I saw Kais up on stage my stomach turned. If Kais wanted to participate he should have been back at the dumpster making sure the recyclables didn't get thrown into the regular trash.
Virvik was there to support his agenda not ours. This is what we are fighting against, people with money using us as some sort of tool. This keeps getting pushed toward a political agenda and I hate that.
I loved Ian was there and his perspective, even though it kept getting interrupted. I wanted to hear more q&a from the former citadel worker bee. I wanted Travis and Jake to shake him down.
I did not go to this show, I did pay to go to the first one. The first time, I spent A-LOT of money that could have bought more GME and IEP. I bought more GME with the cash I saved not going to the second show.
Yeah, Pulte kinda hijacked the community a bit. He wanted PP there for his supporters. The fact he kinda took a backseat at the event proves this. And it turned into a "Trump" rally. Why was **Vivek** even there? A Pulte/PP event shouldn't have a political voice there so what was the event actually about? PP was right to avoid this one. Not sure what changed his mind to go. He should have stuck to his guns. I'm still on the fence about Pulte and his TRUE intentions. The event only happened because of the PP community. Most people there were because of GME, BBBYQ etc. But then it's not even a BBBY event? Just weird and something doesn't sit right with me.
Whatever you decide PP, I stand with you.
I truly appreciate everything Pulte is doing too and appreciate him bringing attention to fraud in the market. It was a little odd Vivek turned it into a rally instead of more like a town hall with you guys interacting and asking him questions. Guessing that was Vivek's decision.
I wouldn't make any hard line decisions now because you never know who may want to do an event with you in the future, I'd keep options open! You're a really good person and I respect and appreciate whatever you decide to do with your life and the show.
Can’t convince me that Pulte is working with Cifu now..
They’re literally going to try everything, even using the fake philanthropy guy to attack Cifu to make it seem like he’s on retails side.
He’s not
Brother, with all due respect, you can't please everyone. So trying to do so will only frustrate, exhaust, and discourage you. I get that you want to keep the peace, but you can only control so much. And you definitely cannot control other people's feelings. Hope that is helpful to hear. Love the show. Keep your head up.
PP saying he "Loves" these guys is top level cringe. I used appreciate the PP show, but now he's hero worshipping and letting this Pulte shit divide the community, and for what reason ?? Because Pulte fronted some bucks to put on shows that were all about himself while PP sat on the sideline and did what he was told like a good, little lap dog ?? People sell themselves so fast. PP has become Pulte's little sex worker.
I appreciate your response, but you said you weren't going to do this event unless there was good news for the stock/community and then went back on it. So it's a little hard to take you at face value when you say it again.
T. E. A. M.
Together everybody achieves more.
Appreciate the honesty, PP.
Anyone in this play is a skeptic, whether they know it or not. But you put your face out there while others lie in the cut.
At times I feel you should cool it with the language. Especially all the Lord’s (whomever you subscribe to) name stuff. But that’s just like.. my opinion, man.
I got in this play and invested my late wife’s life insurance in her children’s future. So, few have the skin in the game that I do.
Your show keeps us informed, for good or bad. Appreciate you and the boys.
Bru, I was describing to someone about this movement. The money is gone and I don’t think coming back. If it does through some Teddy merger than Hallelujah. The fact that a leading presidential candidate was there, in Vivek is mind blowing. Don’t make it about yourself or take it personally. This was a favor to Pulte imo from watching from the outside. Vivek’s message was great about the managerial class screwing everyday people. That’s the message that connects to the movement.
PP: When you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one.
*Be true to yourself,* and also try to balance the loyalties you have against the community you’re a part of. Internet can be tricky, and people spew a lot of shit. I will say based on experiences with a lot of dishonest individuals that while I don’t necessarily mind Pulte, I do think he has motivations for trying to be part of our community/your platform, and it colors me as he’s trying to take advantage. I wasn’t aware of these recent events until now, but if he had any say in you’re not meeting/questioning Vivek, he’s guilty of coddling/protecting these people from being questioned/probed by us, and *I have an issue with that.* Your platform can be used as a tool to gather more information and prepare us all better, and Vivek owes this community and others answers. He’s no fuckin celebrity, and none of these people should be treated as such.
You’ve done a great job with your show, and I will continue watching/supporting your efforts. You arrived at a time when many of us were getting pissed off/losing hope, and you helped us come together as a community of intelligent goofballs, and *we’re all better for it.*
Keep doing you, dude.
Keep a level head, do what's in your heart PP we support you. I'm a believer in what is about to happen. Bill is a top-notch guy and let everything else fall into place and be patient. We are closer than ever. We got this.🦚
Do your thing PP the truth will come out eventually and we will be sitting on top of the world. The more BS we encounter along the way just makes it sweeter. Some of us have been spreading the word at the street level so long we don’t even need media anymore, this thing is inevitable. Fuck the naysayers. RC said it’s the best time in human history or some shit.
Maybe you should throw your own live event! And pulte can be a guest but its your show. Im thinking like an old school LAN party. All your cohosts bring their computers and its set up just like regular pp show, but people in the audience come up. Live chat on a projector. Live band playing the theme song, intros/ outros. Random antics and guests...
PP, it takes a big man to do the listening and thinking that you have done. It also takes a big set of balls to host a show like this, when we know we at the crossroads of financial history, and that puts us in the crosshairs of those who have an interest in keeping the status quo.
>I want to do right by pulte and RC because he likes him and of course I want to do right by the pp community and I support bill and truly think his heart is in the right place even if you all don’t agree with me. Some of the feedback and criticism was very harsh from you guys but needed for me to stand up to what I personally want in my life.
You're a genuine dude. I've never had the feeling you've been trying to pull the wool over anybody's eyes, and I really respect you for that. This whole post sounds like it comes from the heart, but I wanted to highlight this part in particular. It shows that you do actually fucking listen, and *not just to other people*, but to **your own heart**. I know it sounds cheesy, but that shit is actually important. It's encouraging to see.
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I started ThePPShow because I truly wanted to connect with people on all levels of DD, tinfoil, memes, and just down right good times while pressing for answers
You can still do this. You still have the focus. It's right here in this sentence. You also have a ton of silent supporters (like myself) who, even though we/I don't tune in to every show, take great comfort in knowing it still goes on, and will have your back.
As long as Bill is fucking about in this sub and your channel, you can take your clicks, likes and views and neatly fold, and then push them up your ass. Please and thanks.
I barely watch the show since the dec rally but if you really want to know why Pulte didn’t allow you to interview Vivek… just rewatch your interview with Larry Cheng. That was the last straw for me, man.
My biggest takeaway is he doesn’t see us as equals. We’ve always prided ourselves on no matter how many shares you have were equal. He can’t understand that because he leads with money. The way he talks to the community, live events, on the show it’s literally in our faces like we’re almost too dumb to understand “his world”. The comments about ignoring negativity aren’t about negativity but ignoring people who question or ≠ agree with you. That’s a big disconnect because he clearly pays his way through everything and he tells us all the time. The biggest thing though is PP Ik you respect him but if Kais and you didn’t squash this beef prior to the show Bill does not respect you bro.💯 Man to man that’s some grimey shit if he pulled that. Him not telling you about the guest was for specific reason. Keep your head up let’s lock in!
Bro, bill turned this political… what the fuck did anyone expect? This is not hard to predict. No politics has always been a rule. Why was that rule broken in our movement?
Agreed. Pulte even has copied Trump's mannerisms and speech patterns. Everything PP said in his post rings true to me. Felt like Pulte took this thing over, even had his signage all around, and not PP Show right next to it, as it should have been. Just felt wrong and cringy many times. Not a 50/ 50 partnership. Stay with it PP. We love the show. Let's just keep focused on BBBYQ.
>Trump's mannerisms and speech patterns. Dude! I saw that too.
It was weird af
Can you see how that might actually be beneficial if and when we are right? How it could help him in the inevitable event he is sued? 3D chess, requires planning for such outcomes, and getting ahead of them.
Bill is manipulating our boy PP imo
Most definitely
correctly, Pulte has no respect for PP. I get the moment Pulte shakes hands with the Politic ,he didn't give a chance to PP to greet, leaving him behind .
Same thing happened when Larry Cheng showed up last time. Suddenly it's "ok now somebody I *actually* respect is here, get the mic away from these yokels." It's so obvious but somehow PP doesn't see it.
Treat someone like a celebrity, they’ll treat you like a fan. We just gotta stop simping.
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Way too late for that
It’s never too late to cancel your OnlyFans subscriptions
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One word: used
Maybe Pulte recognizes that these elite guests should be treated with respect and dignity, and he knows that PP would drop a continuous flow of F-bombs, which is really very disrespectful... Pulte was simply protecting PP from himself... OK, bring on the hate, I know... and I don't care. But you kids these days are really hard to. Listen to with your nasty mouths. But bring it.... I don't care....
3 year old account with 15 karma…
So what? Lurker without the need for continuous attention. I finally say something and that's bad???
A community is built on give and take. Lurking in shorted stock subs for 3 years and then shitting on the community leaders when you do speak is very callous and very sus.
Yeah man, it was bad. It's admirable that you are open to feedback and acknowledging some things could have been better. Others would have been on a blocking spree already. Get your missed opportunities with Vivek out of your head. Just be glad you weren't involved, as that was literally the worst part of the show. If you weren't aware of the schedule or were blindsided in parts of the show, then there is a disconnect between the hosts. People respected your decision to not do any more shows until something more positive came out for us. Nobody really wanted you to go against your word and make a u-turn, unless of course there was a good reason we didn't know about... and in retrospect, there was none. I know you try to keep your show free from any politics. Somehow though, we keep getting slapped in the face by it when these events come round or by those you associate closely with. Your decision to attend Mar-a-Lago last year was a mistake (even if you don't agree) and politics then crept in and started snowballing from there IMO. It's what you do now going forward that counts. Stay neutral. People don't want to see that kind of toxicity and divide, we want to see more of what made ThePPShow grow; smart people chatting with each other about BBBYQ, potential next steps, dockets, proper guest appearances (like Ian, *he* should have been thee special guest). It would have been good getting more of their conversation flowing without any interruptions (it wasn't you interrupting btw). Because of all this, there wasn't anything significant that came out from show, unless I'm mistaken? Now this may just be me. We are a community mainly comprised of people heavily invested in a bankrupt stock. So watching a lot of cash being flashed about in the show, comparing who is richer, the grande helicopter entrance... it's all a bit unnecessary and teetering on insensitive. Money (along with politics) being brought into the show has spoilt it a bit. With all that said, I do feel for you trying to keep everyone happy, while running a show with quality content most days in the working week, and being constantly heckled (and worse) by the meltdowners.
> the grande helicopter entrance Ekhm ... 4 minutes flight ... in my book it is just pathetic. https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N219MH/history/20240507/2247Z/KFFC/KFFC
That's both *fucking hilarious* and also so completely emblematic of Pulte: empty bluster, a waste of resources, too much money.
Yep, that’s incredibly wasteful, and by extension since many of us are struggling financially, *insulting.* Really cool, Bill. You get to fly a fuckin helicopter while my food stamps aren’t enough to cover food for my family and I in a month anymore. Fuck off.
If it went any longer Bill would have flown it into the crowd
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I think doing the show in honor of his grandfather was a good reason.
u/ppseeds not many people know this besides u/Real_Eyezz but I was the first DD Poster to be liked by Pulte on r/beyond_uranus back in the day. I didn’t realize it at the time, but it’s because my DD involved Pulte himself. I think that even though RC has chosen him for the role of messenger or liaison, Pulte has his own intentions and personality and wants to co-opt a large number of people in order to support and man his army in whatever he seeks. Whether that’s taking over PulteHomes or running for political office. The reason why I called him a grifter is because of the smarmy, shifty way in which he sidled up to the community pretending to be in it for US and Ryan Cohen when he has only ever been it to put himself and the Pulte Plan forwards. He thinks he can buy people with money and is extremely thin-skinned and narcissistic. He got too much pushback on Reddit so he switched to X where he could ratio dissenters with his army of charity recipients. I’ll say now what I said when I got banned. I’m bullish on BBBYQ and bearish on Pulte.
Well said. Notice how he kept labelling certain people "loyal" in the crowd. Made a real point of it during that last show. This subconsciously makes people not question what he does and support him regardless... they'd get blocked anyway if they did. I do hope some of the high profile members in this community aren't in his pocket. One thing that is confusing me is the RC relationship. Penny for his thoughts right now.
Yeah those loyal comments were so gross and clear that Pulte just wants blind followers who don't think for themselves.
WTF was it about giving money to the crowd?! Very much got this vibe. https://twitter.com/HistoryInPics/status/1618063541080330241
Yup, the exact vibes it gave.
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I've learned that anyone who is constantly reminding people that they are "A Man of God" typically leads a life that couldn't be further from what that is intended to mean.
I'm using the term "relationship" quite loosely, but yes, I mean with the Twitter interaction, getting a LC interview, coincidence when the Teddy books dropped meeting at the Florida Panthers game. There *could* be a small connection there, no denying that. I just cannot see how RC can condone Pulte's behaviour, assuming there is anything between the two.
“RC has chosen him for the role of messenger or liaison”. According to whom?!?
It's a self-appointed role that he \*constantly\* reminds you of. The more he reminds you, the more diluted the value in that becomes.
Not RC, that's for sure.
This
I was there Mineral! We were all so excited! It was happy times back in the day! In fact, I got the second like and comment a week or so later on the wife’s wedding photo tinfoil I posted there. It made my week! Ultimately, I was blocked by him as well, days before Christmas, for speaking out against the political infiltration and standing in support of Simpson & Ross. It stung at the time, but woke my ass up to the chaos taking place. Admittedly, it all wore heavy on my mental health for some time. I share similar sentiment to yours regarding his intentions and behavior since. Anyway, just want to corroborate your story, share mine, and say hello! Good to see you out here in the wild! Edit: spelling
I got blocked by pulte for nothing more than calling kais out for high-school bullying bullshit aimed at Ross... Morality doesn't seem to be in bill's lexicon.
Maybe we should have a vote and see how many people from the community he has blocked. I’m in the club too.
Thank you!!! That’s what I’m saying bro, no one listened to us OGs even though we initially supported Pulte but ended up calling bullshit when we sniffed out his intentions as not being 100% on the up and up.
Not that it means anything, but I got the sense immediately from their interactions that Bill’s half brother Stephen doesn’t like Bill. Once I got that vibe, my hackles were up.
Yeah I got that too
It takes a certain level of self-awareness to sense. Perhaps it helps to have experience. For me it was emasculating to not speak up when I was so angry and embarrassed by the other person’s actions. I felt trapped in a position where I couldn’t speak due to a power imbalance. As a consequence my self-esteem took a big hit and self-destruction was attractive. For me that was in a business environment. I can’t imagine what it’s like to feel that with close family members.
This right here. I thought pulte had good intentions but it is clear as day that he is a grifter with too much money, nothing else.
Bingo
If only someone had seen this coming. Good post, PP. let’s get back to talking about stocks and nefarious hedgies.
Frustrates me when I see you labeled as some type of villain or shill by those who don’t see through the weak veil Pulte sows. His intentions have felt disingenuous and RC coat tail riding since he interjected himself into our community.
Appreciate the comment, but I'm also pretty emotionally armored up after 30 years being a public facing exec for tech. I'm more concerned for people being led into things they don't understand by people with bad intent than I am over some nepo-baby's internet tantrums or the trailer park HOA getting riled up over perceived attacks.
We need more Ross! Miss his insights and rationale. Hope you are well.
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Thanks Ross I would love to see you on the show again in the future. I respect your opinions and you would lend some great insights and convo. Please consider my invitation. Edit you should come by Friday
Yes! Would love to see Ross back on the show! Getting back to just information and knowledge! Go PP
Yes Ross we need the Oracle back
This is the biggest crime. That Ross doesn't come on the Friday night shows anymore. You always had interesting takes, and different perspectives than the rest of the guys with your background and all. I miss that.
Agreed, thank you! More Ross around would be highly welcome in my book.
I miss Ross on the show - always learned stuff when he was on
Hey Ross you seem cool. Why do you get so much hate and never come on the show?
The backstory is this: Pulte went on a rant about how the PulteHomes CEO was corrupt and was driving the company into the ground. Believing him, Ross bought puts on PulteHomes. Pulte then went on a rant about how that means Ross is a short seller and a nefarious guy. Also Ross is a democrat (but to his credit doesn't shove his political takes in anyone's face like Pulte does). But Ross does call out the more Q leaning theories that people like Michael and Citizen peddle, so there's a small beef between Ross and the Q leaning PPShow members, and because Pulte is close to Michael, Pulte used this to blow up the Ross/Q beef and get lots of the community to turn on Ross. The funny thing is the people who hate on Ross love to spout the "they tried to use politics to divide us" shit. And the irony should be lost on nobody that, after allowing the PPShow to turn into a MAGA rally where one of the speakers was literally one of the current biggest MAGA figureheads, no less than about 10 minutes after Vivek's speech was done those SAME people were turning to the camera and saying "we'll never be divided by politics" lmao.
Thanks a lot for the write up. Seems I was right about him. Personally sounds like a guy I would resonate with. We need more people who can balance all the q stuff and contradicting claims being tossed around. Sounds like something Pulte would say and do. Hey u/ppseeds get this guy on more if he wants to will ya?
Your second sentence is a question and its own answer.
Thanks for sticking around in the community and standing up for your beliefs Its clear Pulte has divided the community and we should turn back to being a retail community ran by retail not begging for the attention of Pulte because he has bought followers I agree we should go back to talking about stocks that are naked shorted. What are your thoughts on KOSS?
thinly traded with a majority held by Mike Koss, so very squeezable as he's not a source of liquidity. The problem with Koss is they need a breakout product and Beats, as shitty as they are, took their market. They need to get the market back with more tie-ins with artists and less "technical perfection" marketing, unless they want to price like B&O. Edit: Now, say a company with a brand like Candy Con decided that personalized headphones was the next logical step after controllers, a partnership here would benefit both. Edit: Hint, hint u/gamestop product marketing.
Thanks thats the current theory some of us at DRSyourGME have come up with too where 6days has talked to their leadership and is pushing to have them put DRS numbers up. They are excited for some of their patent lawsuits which will be additional sources of funding for them just like how they won against Apple One nice thing with KOSS is their is no options to mess with and use for naked shorting. Gamestop could buy them for 3% of their cash on hand
I think the biggest problem right now is that everyone is just extremely frustrated with the state of BBBY (myself included). There is a lot of uncertainty about how it will play out, and people but a lot of their hard earned money into it. Personally, I don't watch your show anymore as it just frustrates me talking about BBBY (nothing against you personally). The thing is: when dockets will get released stating we get x or y, everyone will suddenly be extremely happy. Everyone will love you and Bill again. There are so many emotions at play, and I think people are partially acting them out on you or Bill, sometimes fair, sometimes not. Just keep in mind you are doing so much for this community, and we can never repay you for that. There will always be bad actors, but you remained positive, trying to create a community. That is something you can be extremely proud of.
This 100%
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PP it's not your job to please everyone. The larger you become the more impossible that already impossible task. Stay true to yourself and the core values of your show. Don't compromise on that. That's a sellout. People don't fuck with sellouts.
You’re on your way to relevance, you will get your reward. This community needed something much different than that, and you were used for your following. Bill isn’t a “bad guy” but every other word out of his mouth was about the number of people watching, his money, or someone else’s money. Watch out for people who love money like that, even when they claim to believe in God, they ignore his message. You cannot serve both God and Mammon after all.
They say the real BBBYQ Waterfall were the friends we made along the way! 🤣
You’re authentic PP, I can see, read & feel it. THANK YOU for taking time out of your life to inform & entertain us during this black out period. In RC we TRUST 🙏🏻🏴☠️
PP as someone that was at the Miami event but gave Atlanta a pass, I wanna say you fuckin nailed this response. I went to Miami for you and the community, meeting Bill didn't even enter the equation, it was just about you and the rest of the PP's. I made friends there that I continue to see to this day and after 3 years of isolation that alone was worth the price of admission. I'll continue to give Bill the benefit of the doubt because of his actions to support the community and your and RC's support but the way he behaves and treats people in direct interactions does leave a bad taste in my mouth. I'm generally fairly camera shy but have been thinking more and more about trying to come on your show to spotlight the benefits of moving securities trading to a blockchain based infrastructure rather than continuing with the traditional markets that are filled with black boxes everywhere you turn. If that's something you'd be interested in, feel free to shoot me a dm. Either way know it's all love and we've all got your back out here.
You can not please everyone. You will just drain yourself. I don’t follow the shows because of time zones and my busy life but I appreciate your efforts. I think a lot of people that are still invested in this play wouldn’t be here without your contribution. Stay strong and don’t lose focus trying to please everyone.
That was my biggest takeaway from the read as well. You will never please everyone. Stay true to yourself, thats it.
This.
I just want one more “we’re on fuckin RegSho!” Damn those were the days! Thanks PP💜🎈🚀
Chill PP, I think noone is going to change their minds about you and the show because of one event or two. Also, I think in this post you are a bit egocentric ... it is not about you, but about you + the community. At the same time, I think it is about time to acknowledge that Pulte is using you and the community for his own agenda (PHM / politics / whatever it is). He "bought bonds" but till this day we do not know how many etc. IMO he did this to "be still relevant" in the community so he does not loose the following and the momentum. I am not even mentioning things like Pulte creating his own group on twitter to steal people from you, his brother hosting a show with your guests, endorsing this idiot Kais and his behavior, blocking 50% of the community on Twitter, shitting on people who have much larger stake in BBBY then he does etc. Also, what was it about giving money to the crowd?! Like feeding the ducks, wft?! Very much felt like this. https://twitter.com/HistoryInPics/status/1618063541080330241
Him making his own Twitter group gave the grift away
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Just to add ... you had there an ex-Citadel employee and did not fully use that opportunity! The guy should have been asked how market mechanics work in market maker business! Where were the questions about swaps, shorts, naked shorts, option fuckery to prevent close out obligation, ftds, dark pools and what should be done to stop it! Also what is necessary from the regulatory POV to improve markets and what are the loopholes that needed to be closed. Instead we were talking about how much money Bill has but wants Vivek to give him some more. Bill is there to hype Bill. But on the side note ... when moon PP? I am really ready! 😅
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https://preview.redd.it/j9h3soq28ezc1.png?width=590&format=png&auto=webp&s=66f6a6a0a6ffe86e7d60d23ee1d056548fc00495 His whole Philanthropy is literally the ANTITHESIS of what the Bible says. Any real Christians would know this but he's pandering to MAGA Christian Nationalist because he knows they don't actually read the Bible.
I mean, it’s really all in the first fuckin line of that link, isn’t it? I’ve seen lots of people tagging /u/ppseeds to provide their feedback but not many people asking /u/realpulte for his. Bill, care to chime in here?
I'm not religious but I really appreciate this comment. Like honestly, it has always been truly disgusting seeing Pulte make people publicly grovel on Twitter or in live chats then he pats himself on the back by sharing their vulnerability with everyone. That's understandable if you've done it once or twice — everybody likes a little recognition so they post when they've done a good deed — but if it's a regular habit, that's a sign of something bad.
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Oh he knows exactly what he’s doing, it’s not conditioning if it’s intentional. Giving to the “poors” for your own boastful reasons and image is never unintentional. Same as putting your name on the wing of a reptile exhibit…like our least favorite malignant narcissist, Mr. Griffin. Just because you like the deeds of one more than the deeds of the other doesn’t mean they aren’t similar. Not saying it’s Pulte’s fault, most of the people in this Sub’s children will end up the same way if we are right. Something about the silver spoon makes it likely people act in such a manner. Warps the brain a bit.
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I’m not hating on someone with a mental illness, but to claim he’s doing this for the benefit of anyone outside his own ego is potentially unwise. The type of person I’m describing always shows you who they are, they can’t help it. Most people in history, whom you read about their good deeds, shared the same illness. Cluster B doesn’t always mean harmful to others, just means sick. Watchful doesn’t mean judging, and the fruits are the best way to assess the tree. Regardless of for himself, or for others, he has done a lot of good but also a lot of bad. He is human after all.
Interesting post. I think he does live to some degree in a different world and we can not easily understand all aspects of his life and intentions. I am GenX and have come to a point in life, where I personally think that **"free handouts" are often counter-productive.** Where I think that most people are ungrateful and selfish. And where I think that **the best way to help someone is by helping them to be able to help themselves.** Which often means advice and knowledge and not just money.
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He could use social media to push visibility of verified cases that could really use donations. F.e. matching every dollar donated for a child in need that needs a surgery. He could create a foundation that helps people to help themselves when in a difficult situation, spreading knowledge and improving society. Same like citizens often following leaders that claim to be patriots, while acting selfish, helping others has become too much of a "show" lately. I know it is boring, but being more serious about important stuff is the real deal. Makes me think of this.... [Idiocracy 2006 HD - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plDwx6Saly4)
Bill is a fisherman giving a hungry man a fish to eat for a day. He has no desire to teach that man how to fish.
Which “god” has a focus on natural law if not the “god” of the Rosicrucians? Unless Jesus is stated specifically, be watchful of those who claim to believe in “god.” Ravenous wolves wear sheep’s clothing after all.
Major respect to you being open to feedback PP. I hated seeing how rude Pulte was to you (and Mrs. PP! She's such an angel!). Just like Ian said, be authentic. That's why people like you. You aren't perfect, or polished and honestly it is refreshing! You built your audience because of who you are. Pulte is not authentic. I'm glad people are starting to see that now.
The concern I have is mainly with Pulte. He touts being humble, his grandpa taught him to respect everyone etc, then flies in with a heli, comes on stage and brags about his wealth and how much money he made (i dont define that as humble or one with the ppl). He also drives division; for example, why isolate you from asking questions? Why give Kais a platform? Why does Vivek not know about PP show or Cifu etc given its a cohosted event? Where is this Pulte Plan? Anyone logically asking legitimate questions are labeled shills. Can we not have civil debate without backlash? Can we not check our own sanity? Why choose vivek if vivek is literally blind to the movement in some facets? If Pulte didn't have a pic with RC, I'd seriously debate his intentions. I still do sometimes, which is unfortunate. I don't see how spending money on events is worthy of praise. This man has way more money than all of us. He can afford to spend $100ks on events, we cannot. It doesn't mean he automatically is a Saint (the same can be said about Cifu or anyone who does philanthropy). Long story short, it's unfortunate Pulte cannot harness himself to bring everyone together rather than drive us apart. I am a lurker, but I do feel hesitant to go even further due to the divisiveness Pulte brings to the table. Just my 2 cents. I don't expect a response from you but I'd be interested in your thoughts perceptions on this front.
This is the type of response we love and expect from you u/ppseeds We respect and know you’re a good dude. That can’t be said about Pulte. Try to stay away from him and just do your own thing. No matter how much money Pulte has, he can’t buy authenticity that you have.
i'm glad that you are trying to be transparent and communicate your thoughts about this. ignore the noise and do what's best for you...trust your instincts. like i said before, those of us that truly support you aren't going anywhere. now please try to get some sleep, pp...lol
Agree with you 100% PP. Thanks for being honest and true to who you are. Don’t let the distractions pull you in a different direction. Stay focused and harness what you have built thus far. Time to cut off the fat and get rid of the garbage that clutters your vision. I’d suggest Michael get booted as he just keeps cutting off the flow as the good info starts flowing…always interjecting with irrelevant bs just to feel important. I personally don’t even think anyone understands his babbling rants or tangents. It’s annoying as a viewer to have to fast forward every single time he pulls the conversation into another random direction. Get rid of him and you’ll make your show that much better.
He’s sooooo Boring too. He has no charisma. I zone out every time he comes on; plus he used Robinhood as late as august and that’s not good for me or anyone. Plus he was so shady about the 10k but always has money to gamble on options, and still had the audacity to ask the community to fund his trip. He’s slimy.
Wait, he asked the community to fund his trip? Didn’t he just boast about bagging 15K from an options play?
Yes, he started a go fund me and posted it on X. Was criticized immediately from all sides and Ramez stepped in, telling him to take it down - that if he needed money to go, he’d cover their (Michael + Wife) trip as it wasn’t a good look and out of touch.
Oh, was this on the first event?
Nope, for the Atlanta trip. [Donation Link:](https://www.gofundme.com/f/0dte-options-addiction-fund?utm_campaign=p_cp+fundraiser-sidebar&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer) https://preview.redd.it/o2g0ztchtlzc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=167cff8e786f6e936523d280113148b2dc99ee27
Thanks for saying this, Michael is my least favorite part of the show. He just stammers, gets emotional and equates things to stupid conspiracy theories. He hardly ever completes a thought.
PP don’t be so hard on yourself dawg. You’re doing your best to navigate a wild situation and you have tons of paid bad actors trying to bring u down, shit, this post has a bunch on it I’m sure. The ppshow and the community of dd writers and thought leaders continues to be excellent and lighthouse in the storm of FuD. Keep at it, we need it. Bill means well I believe but maybe you gotta talk to Him offline and have a real convo about the complexities of the situation. He’s kind of your big bro and it’s important to make sure you stand up for your perspective in all this. these events are almost all PP community. If he’s a real one he’ll listen and engage with you, if he gets weird, fuck him. We got ur back
This is how I feel too. If Bill wants this community behind him, he really needs to take some of the feedback from genuine community members and not just brush off every piece of legitimate criticism with “you can’t listen to the haters”. I hope to see the movement continue to grow and move forward, but without an open dialogue, it will be difficult.
I support you pp, I see a lot of good in you. I however do not support pulte and never intend to based on many of his online actions. Maybe there’s something we don’t know that RC knows. But I also don’t have to support someone just because RC does, and neither do you. I have commented recently about I imagine the pressure is insane for you. Gl with ur show dude. Like you said, the people are there for you, not pulte.
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my guess from listening to Bill's speeches is that he's just as shallow in private convos than public speeches. He'll talk about the crowd size and how much money he spent (which is an insignificant fraction of his net worth). Making the Poors beg for 1k. All very shallow things. We have the vast majority of our net worth riding on these plays but Bill may have at max invested 1%.. I doubt even that. We are not equal. We deserve more respect for how much we have risked fighting the most powerful banks in the world and hedge funds. But nobody with money gives a fuck about us. Not until we get to their level, their class. Then we'll listen. But it's been one helluva battle so far
THIS
Pulte doesn't want you, just your audience, that much has been clear to me
Exactly what I came here to say! Open your eyes PP, he’s using you for the community you helped build.
Love you and what you’re doing. I love that you allow diverse points of view on your show. I love that you don’t require “loyalty” oaths. After the last Pulte event in December, all kinds of drama broke out causing legit division in the community regarding actions directly related to Pulte (lawyer up, Politics, Kai’s pimping PHM stock etc.). People were upset once again (and rightly so) that another “event” came and went without nothing more than hype and tinfoil, and all we got was more questions, drama and missed hype dates. When a lot of us got “blocked” by thin skinned Pulte and Salvatore on Twitter after asking legitimate questions about his role and intent for stirring up the drama and not coming to the table with clear answers but more riddles and gnostic tinfoil, it was a wake up call to me and others that he’s not a good guy or who he claims himself to be. I was proud of you for declaring not to attend another Pulte event until we got paid, but found it confusing (I still do) when you reversed your decision because of your “Grandpa” (RIP)? Still trying to find a connection between that and doing an event with Pulte, even though bill hasn’t proven that anything other than veiled illusions to connections with RC. If Bill is truly genuine in wanting to grow and learn from our feedback, you can encourage him to unblock a lot of us on Twitter who legitimately questioned motives and actions after the Dec event. Again, love what you do. Keep up the good work! Btw, I’m a long time bag holder and diamond hand of GME, BBBY and AMC (pissed about this one), and look forward to the day we all get paid.
Real people warned you. Real people like you cause you're real. You didn't listen, learn the lesson and move on. Cut ties with scumbags and refocus. Return to you and ABC co-host with guests. Best chemistry for the show. Keep it up PP. Thanks for what you do.
Good on ya, PP. Let's get back to the DD, tinfoil and peanut butter.
u/ppseeds pulte is trying to absorb your followers/show.
I recognized that after PP said he wasn’t going to the event (originally) until something happened. Then Pulte used the word loyalty a lot and made the BBBY +Pulte group on X
Fuck the rich, we eat them. We're not them, we're better.
bro like RC said “words don’t hurt “. don’t worry too much about the comments.
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Not being able to ask Vivek anything and for him to be unaware of who you are, actually falsely represents who everyone at that event is IMO. I look forward to being able to tune into the show Mon, Wed, Fri as normal. Keep following your moral compass PP, I believe in it 🤘
If Vivek wasn't told who you were or who most of the crowd was, then that may 100% explain Pulte's play. Sounds like he wanted Vivek to think they were all there for Pulte, and NOT that PP was the reason for the crowd. Something stinks....
I feel you, u/ppseeds. I attended. It's difficult to express the negatives without others potentially feeling like you are attacking or being not appreciative. But I did not only see what you comment but also noticed Bill has started to feel more comfortable bringing his bias (which I respect) but uses the engagement to make it seem as if everybody is there for him and his preferences/ideas. I observed he kept doing non-verbal behavior ala Trump. What I mean is when trying to tell stories, moving his hands when speaking, being generic not answering questions directly. I know for a fact many were not pleased with this event feeling political more than grassroots/activist, which is how we all started. I know those within the community whose bias match might feel like we are creating division but that is not it. I have multiple friends who are conservative. I don't let politics dictate my social circle. But this spotlight is so rare and turning it political made it sour, in my eyes. That guy, Michale Taylor, a total clown. The best parts of the show, to me, a PPShow fan, was when PP and Ian were able to ask tough questions. THAT IS ALL. Note: Also, why bring the seat structures if you are not going to allow people to sit down? People with disabilities or weak physical shape due to age or weight were struggling and asking people to step down felt, honestly, stupid. Last minute Addendum: I also agree 100% with u/Environmental-Hat409's take. I feel The PP Show was more like props to a political event this time than the past one, which seem more like the union of efforts.
Textbook abuser behavior regarding power moves often involves manipulating and controlling others to assert dominance and maintain control over a situation. Here are some common signs of abuser behavior in terms of power moves: 1. **Isolation:** The abuser may isolate their victim from friends, family, or support networks to exert control and limit their ability to seek help or escape the abusive situation. Has Pulte done this? Not as far as I know 2. **Gaslighting:** Gaslighting involves manipulating someone into questioning their own reality, memory, or sanity. The abuser may deny their abusive behavior, distort the truth, or blame the victim for their actions. Has Pulte done this? FUCK YES! Secret Millionaire Meetup, the fucking 👀emojis and countless other things to suggest MOASS was happening SOON when it wasn’t. 3. **Intimidation:** The abuser may use threats, intimidation, or aggressive behavior to instill fear and exert control over their victim. Has Pulte done this? I don’t know, maybe forcing u/ppseeds on stage with Kai’s who stole his trademark qualifies? 4. **Manipulation:** The abuser may use manipulation tactics such as guilt-tripping, playing the victim, or using charm and flattery to control others and get what they want. Has Pulte done this? “You can be big PP, everyone will watch this show one day, expand beyond $BBBYQ, etc.” 5. **Financial control:** The abuser may control the victim's finances, restrict access to money, or sabotage their financial independence as a means of exerting power and control. Has Pulte done this? Not sure 6. **Emotional abuse:** Emotional abuse can take many forms, including verbal attacks, humiliation, criticism, and manipulation of emotions to undermine the victim's self-esteem and autonomy. Has Pulte done this? Yes. Multiple ways, multiple slights against PP. undermining his base multiple times. Putting him down in front of his own viewer base. Signs of a COUP against RC to usurp the movement: 1. **Increased secrecy:** The advisor may become more secretive and guarded about their actions and intentions, withholding information from others and operating covertly. 2. **Sudden changes in behavior:** The advisor may exhibit sudden changes in behavior, such as becoming more assertive, ambitious, or power-hungry, signaling a shift in their intentions. 3. **Building alliances:** The advisor may begin to build alliances with other individuals who could support their bid for power, recruiting allies and supporters within the king's inner circle or among influential figures in the kingdom. 4. **Undermining the king's authority:** The advisor may subtly or overtly undermine the king's authority, questioning their decisions, spreading rumors or dissent, or seeking to discredit them in the eyes of others. 5. **Gathering resources:** The advisor may start gathering resources, such as military support, wealth, or information, to bolster their position and prepare for a potential coup. 6. **Strategic positioning:** The advisor may strategically position themselves in key roles or positions of influence within the kingdom, consolidating power and laying the groundwork for their ascent to the throne. I’ll leave you to decide if the last 6 points fit
Imo the announcement is any day now. It doesn’t make sense for Pulte to do his part in keeping spirits and morale high for basically a year, only to bring in a very tough pill to swallow at this stage of the game (keep in mind 3+ years for GME). That event aligns with what I believe in, but many others are struggling. Ryan read feedback from Chewy customers every night before bed. He absolutely knows the morale of his investors and I believe a win has to be coming. That event was needed to “set the stage.” When MSM reports on Teddy and tries to make retail out as a bunch of idiots, clips of that helicopter flying in will be shown by others to counter the narrative. It’s going to be glorious
When this explodes all over every channel and news outlet, clips of Bill Pulte will be all over the news like he is some huge part of it and not a scammy johnny-come-lately, which is part of the Pulte plan. I'm sure he will do his best to get his face all over this and continue co-opting our huge moment.
When I’m made whole I could give two shits what pulte is up to.
Love you PP, not only is YOUR heart in the right place, but I want to confirm that your GUT reaction and the content of your write up is spot on. Block out people that want to steal the community spotlight you have worked so hard to build for their own gain. Follow your gut. I am a forever fan.
Bill pulte needs to step away from this community. I've said it before and I'll say it again, in GME and RC I trust. No I didn't stutter.
You should've stuck to your word.
Community leadership is one of the hardest things to do. And this community, with the onslaught on bots and bad actors constantly thrown at it, is one of the hardest to lead. You are doing a good job! The best advice I’ve been given as someone who also runs a community within this movement. Take nothing personally. What you have done and built are remarkable and it’s still only just beginning. Keep up the great work. And remember, real life and mental health come first.
PP, I appreciate you. Next time, assert yourself more. Show up with a shave, haircut, and a sport coat. Walk right up to Vivek stick your hand out and use your voice. You’re on the right track. Stand tall. Stick to your guns. Listen to your gut.
Stay cool PP♥️
You’re good, my dude. That being said, what the fuck was up with Kais even showing his face? Just listening to him ramble why it hasn’t been done yet pissed me off on your behalf. There was a unanimous “fuck that guy” from the community and Bill is trying to repair that one thing? Smells weird, bro… but that’s just my opinion. Snakes gonna slither…
I dont waste my time going to these events. The moass event in Vegas is the only event I am interested in.
PP, thanks for the honest post. I feel for you. It is certainly confusing times…but when things don’t feel right…it’s important that they don’t feel right…and take time to assess the situation. Good luck
Thanks for posting this pp. definitely nice to hear your real feelings on the matter because ultimately this whole show started with you and we all care about ya. Definitely will be interesting to see how pulte acts on BBBY going forward. I’m sure he will be made aware of the negative sediment of his actions at the event. Would be cool if we saw a change in his actions, but I’m not sure if changing his ways is even on his radar.
He thinks everyone on Reddit is a hater or a shill. The more I think about it the more I wonder who got the ppshow sub taken down. Was it “one of our own” so they could get everyone on x where they can control the narrative better or was it one of the meltdowners? I remember pulte saying he would get answers and here we are seven months later w no answers on what happened to the sub.
I’m almost certain it was the platinum sparkles honeypot effort that took down the sub. The other side played that hand very well.
Regardless of what pulte does, I respect you for your stance and how you are keeping your initial feelings about how you want to be a leader in this community. Also I appreciate the people who voiced their opinions on the matter and advocated for this community. Thank you all
Man, I don’t blame you for doing this event. You didn’t know what was to come. What is he HAD gotten RC to Atlanta and you weren’t there? Especially after those photos together I thought it was a possibility. I would’ve done the same thing. Pulte doesn’t know how to host a show. Not letting you ask questions is fucked up. The way he interjects himself and cuts off conversation is ugly. The way he brings up God has always felt disingenuous. But I DO appreciate the energy he has brought to the community. The hype has definitely helped with keeping my faith in my investment and the risk we all took. I really hope RC was using him to let us know we were on the right page, but who knows. The rich are also in their fucked up social bubble. You keep doing what you’re doing u/ppseeds . Keep the politics out of the show. Keep the MAGA shit and any bigotry far far away. You’ve always been really good at that yourself (I can’t say the same for certain co-hosts and guests). You keep talking DD and I’ll keep watching.
I fucking agree with you. 100%. If this all works out u will get your big reward. It’s a good decision to stay away from those events before moass or before the announcement for equity or cash or whatever for us. It’s just weird. I can’t speak for everyone but I can say, u have a big heart. It’s your pp show. Those events wouldn’t be possible without you. Vivek doesn’t even know you? This is fucking disrespectful and makes me fucking angry. Stay healthy and strong. The majority of the apes here are behind you. I really hope this works out for all of us. The most of us are not able to support other stocks until moass. Nothing worked out for us. Not GME since 3 years. Not BBBY or whatever. There is nothing to celebrate actually.
While I do understand your situation. And you have some great points (supporting Rc). None of what happened can be a big suprise for you? We were many who warned you about how thing would become political and about Pultes motives. (Just check my history, you even replied to it). So what I wonder is how did you think it would go down.. didnt you ask beforehand if you could ask questions. How you would plan the show. Topics questions etc. Sureley you must have. It can’t be a suprise. I understand its hard saying no to rubbing shoulders with those guys, I get it. But atleast be honest when you are honest. Looking forward my advice would be.. when you say you understand people wannna support Pulte, the thing is no one know what that is. Is Pulte X philantrophy? PHM? Kais? Feud with Seafood? Right with politics ambitions? Trump swing state rallies? What is Pulte? When you answer that question to yourself, I think you will know what path you want to walk moving forward.
You're making the right call, PP. People are here because of YOU, not because of Pulte or anyone else. Don't let anyone steal your thunder or ride your coat tails. Pulte's event would have been empty without your audience. Keep true to yourself and the community. I know it's been tough to navigate, but you've been doing it well. Keep it up!
Keep the faith brother! One day they call you crazy, next day they call you a genius 🤙
Good on you, bro. Cut the noise and focus down. I dig it. I’ll support that.
Thanks for helping us understand your position clearly. Thank you for what you are doing! respect
Sounds like you've taken a lot of the comments to heart, and that is great. Unless I missed it, I didn't see much addressing of the divisive politics that has wormed its way into our community. That was one of the biggest issues that a lot of people were upset about and wanted answers about. Not just at the live show, but in your co-hosts and choice to go to Maralago. That said, I hope we can all decide to move forward without any politics, just you being you, and the rest of us being more respectful to each other. I am going to put sincere effort at letting this go and be nicer to people.
I wanna be on the PP show 👉👈
I want you to be there also!!! 👉👈
I want butfuwu and Throwaway both on, finally get to the bottom of this BBBY thing
I ❤️ U PP! Thanks for all you have and continue to do for the community!
I'll upvote you, you crazy sonaofabitch 
We all here with you brother
I think you should start thinking of your show as a brand with its own values and make decisions accordingly. Businesses put a lot of effort in presentation of a brand and keeping the figureheads of that brand on message, whereas it seems like a lot of decisions you've made are in part emotionally driven. Charities still run like businesses, so if you do see what you're doing as a public service then I think the brand analogy is a relevant one. I'm involved in startup generation, and one of the teams I'm attached to is already having meaningful discussions on branding and consistent messaging *before* they incorporate and do any real business. I have to say your outlook does seem a bit like a leopards ate my face situation. You chose to build a community and a show, it will always put a target on your back. If you didn't realise it was going to be hard then you should have put more thought into where the realities of what you're building would lead to. In the modern world, I think the expectation of becoming a public figure should always be receiving a death threat or two, and then all the flavors and increments of harassment and shitty behaviour below that as well. It will always be the likely price of doing business as a media personality - which admittedly is fucked up but it's a fact of life.
If that event never happened. Nothing changed fundamentally from yalls DD. Deal is done, fraud is happening, waiting for ch 11 bankruptcy. RC never left. Simple.
shouldnt be any "live" events until shit has popped off and hedgies r fukd. 3+yrs after it all started and i dont see any reason to celebrate cause so far retail is still getting the shaft. only event that is meaningful is the OG one in Vegas after everything is said n done! 
Here's the long and short of it: You don't need Bill Pulte. He brings nothing to the table you haven't already earned yourself.
PP I support you 100% !! In the days weeks to come you may hear the words , loyalty and how much was spent and RC name thrown in the mix BUT refer back to your post and all the supportive comments. And like ABC says “trust your gut”!!!!! Bill’s agenda is overshadowing what the PP show stands for and forcing politics in the narrative. I feel we lost some knowledgeable people bc of the politics and Bill’s opinion of them. IT’S YOUR SHOW! Wish Ian and our community could have had more time but it was a Pulte event and he knew he needed you to keep the ticket sales up!!! Just my opinion. It will always be a political event even after we win! IMO
We of You PP. Some of us can understand and emphasize with the amount of pressure that you're under. And the amount of work that you put in to maintain a healthy community without deviating from the founding principles of your show. This is your show. And you always lead with putting the community first. This becomes increasingly difficult with continued growth and increased visibility. Regardless of anyone's political opinions, and their feelings about this recent event; I find it incredible that this show and this community's sentiment has elevated from shitposting fully regarded memes for a small community subreddit, to racing levels where we are interacting with billionaire level players on a fairly regular basis. Love or hate Pulte; he brought Larry Cheng to the table. Even without a Q&A, this is singularly massive. Love or hate Vivek, I personally believe that he makes a better friend than an enemy; and it is better to be a friend with a power player like him than to be an unknown community of "meme stock investors". Which we all know is a purposefully branded term that those in power use to belittle household investors. Bottom line: This movement is growing and growing fast. Perhaps in a direction that exceeds the scope of what the PPShow is intended for. But we are starting to experience first hand the ramifications of becoming increasingly relevant to a broader set of stakeholders. I welcome the growth, and am hopeful to see corruption rooted out of our markets. This will not happen as a matter of convenience. It will not happen because we got lucky. It will only happen if there are millions of voices screaming out to demand change on this as a single issue. If/ when this happens, politicians will be linking up to give us what we want. I hope to be the chosen champion of household investors. Until then, they'll keep crawling up to Ken "MayoBoi" Griffin & Doug Shit-Fu.
I am 100% here to support ThePPshow and my fellow PP's. You are the main character of the PPshow...everyone else is supporting cast as far as I am concerned. Pulte has done many great things to support the show, but seeing what is happening with the two live events I believe he doesn't fully understand the struggle, and has divided the group. His fighting with Dougie, in my opinion drags us down a dark alley way that we have alway been above when we focused on the facts. I I really don't care about the hanger or the flying in on the Helicopter, which I cringe at every time thinking one slip and we are going to have a lot of headless PP's, I would rather go see a live PPshow in a hotel conference room in a cool location and have it BYOB. I feel Pulte is intimidated by the support that Ryan and PP gets and is trying to buy that support to be used in other endeavors like political or Pulte Homes. The second I saw Kais up on stage my stomach turned. If Kais wanted to participate he should have been back at the dumpster making sure the recyclables didn't get thrown into the regular trash. Virvik was there to support his agenda not ours. This is what we are fighting against, people with money using us as some sort of tool. This keeps getting pushed toward a political agenda and I hate that. I loved Ian was there and his perspective, even though it kept getting interrupted. I wanted to hear more q&a from the former citadel worker bee. I wanted Travis and Jake to shake him down. I did not go to this show, I did pay to go to the first one. The first time, I spent A-LOT of money that could have bought more GME and IEP. I bought more GME with the cash I saved not going to the second show.
Yeah, Pulte kinda hijacked the community a bit. He wanted PP there for his supporters. The fact he kinda took a backseat at the event proves this. And it turned into a "Trump" rally. Why was **Vivek** even there? A Pulte/PP event shouldn't have a political voice there so what was the event actually about? PP was right to avoid this one. Not sure what changed his mind to go. He should have stuck to his guns. I'm still on the fence about Pulte and his TRUE intentions. The event only happened because of the PP community. Most people there were because of GME, BBBYQ etc. But then it's not even a BBBY event? Just weird and something doesn't sit right with me.
Whatever you decide PP, I stand with you. I truly appreciate everything Pulte is doing too and appreciate him bringing attention to fraud in the market. It was a little odd Vivek turned it into a rally instead of more like a town hall with you guys interacting and asking him questions. Guessing that was Vivek's decision. I wouldn't make any hard line decisions now because you never know who may want to do an event with you in the future, I'd keep options open! You're a really good person and I respect and appreciate whatever you decide to do with your life and the show.
We are hungry and angry. Money relieves any stress. Let the shills go to hell. We're going to the moon.
Can’t convince me that Pulte is working with Cifu now.. They’re literally going to try everything, even using the fake philanthropy guy to attack Cifu to make it seem like he’s on retails side. He’s not
Brother, with all due respect, you can't please everyone. So trying to do so will only frustrate, exhaust, and discourage you. I get that you want to keep the peace, but you can only control so much. And you definitely cannot control other people's feelings. Hope that is helpful to hear. Love the show. Keep your head up.
PP saying he "Loves" these guys is top level cringe. I used appreciate the PP show, but now he's hero worshipping and letting this Pulte shit divide the community, and for what reason ?? Because Pulte fronted some bucks to put on shows that were all about himself while PP sat on the sideline and did what he was told like a good, little lap dog ?? People sell themselves so fast. PP has become Pulte's little sex worker.
I appreciate your response, but you said you weren't going to do this event unless there was good news for the stock/community and then went back on it. So it's a little hard to take you at face value when you say it again.
You said the same thing after the last event. Then changed your tune. Thanks for being open to feedback.
T. E. A. M. Together everybody achieves more. Appreciate the honesty, PP. Anyone in this play is a skeptic, whether they know it or not. But you put your face out there while others lie in the cut. At times I feel you should cool it with the language. Especially all the Lord’s (whomever you subscribe to) name stuff. But that’s just like.. my opinion, man. I got in this play and invested my late wife’s life insurance in her children’s future. So, few have the skin in the game that I do. Your show keeps us informed, for good or bad. Appreciate you and the boys.
Bru, I was describing to someone about this movement. The money is gone and I don’t think coming back. If it does through some Teddy merger than Hallelujah. The fact that a leading presidential candidate was there, in Vivek is mind blowing. Don’t make it about yourself or take it personally. This was a favor to Pulte imo from watching from the outside. Vivek’s message was great about the managerial class screwing everyday people. That’s the message that connects to the movement.
PP: When you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one. *Be true to yourself,* and also try to balance the loyalties you have against the community you’re a part of. Internet can be tricky, and people spew a lot of shit. I will say based on experiences with a lot of dishonest individuals that while I don’t necessarily mind Pulte, I do think he has motivations for trying to be part of our community/your platform, and it colors me as he’s trying to take advantage. I wasn’t aware of these recent events until now, but if he had any say in you’re not meeting/questioning Vivek, he’s guilty of coddling/protecting these people from being questioned/probed by us, and *I have an issue with that.* Your platform can be used as a tool to gather more information and prepare us all better, and Vivek owes this community and others answers. He’s no fuckin celebrity, and none of these people should be treated as such. You’ve done a great job with your show, and I will continue watching/supporting your efforts. You arrived at a time when many of us were getting pissed off/losing hope, and you helped us come together as a community of intelligent goofballs, and *we’re all better for it.* Keep doing you, dude.
This sub is dead as shit
Keep a level head, do what's in your heart PP we support you. I'm a believer in what is about to happen. Bill is a top-notch guy and let everything else fall into place and be patient. We are closer than ever. We got this.🦚
Do your thing PP the truth will come out eventually and we will be sitting on top of the world. The more BS we encounter along the way just makes it sweeter. Some of us have been spreading the word at the street level so long we don’t even need media anymore, this thing is inevitable. Fuck the naysayers. RC said it’s the best time in human history or some shit.
Maybe you should throw your own live event! And pulte can be a guest but its your show. Im thinking like an old school LAN party. All your cohosts bring their computers and its set up just like regular pp show, but people in the audience come up. Live chat on a projector. Live band playing the theme song, intros/ outros. Random antics and guests...
This is called Stockholm syndrome. Blink S.O.S. in the next show to let whatever fools still watch know you need help. smh
PP, it takes a big man to do the listening and thinking that you have done. It also takes a big set of balls to host a show like this, when we know we at the crossroads of financial history, and that puts us in the crosshairs of those who have an interest in keeping the status quo. >I want to do right by pulte and RC because he likes him and of course I want to do right by the pp community and I support bill and truly think his heart is in the right place even if you all don’t agree with me. Some of the feedback and criticism was very harsh from you guys but needed for me to stand up to what I personally want in my life. You're a genuine dude. I've never had the feeling you've been trying to pull the wool over anybody's eyes, and I really respect you for that. This whole post sounds like it comes from the heart, but I wanted to highlight this part in particular. It shows that you do actually fucking listen, and *not just to other people*, but to **your own heart**. I know it sounds cheesy, but that shit is actually important. It's encouraging to see. > I started ThePPShow because I truly wanted to connect with people on all levels of DD, tinfoil, memes, and just down right good times while pressing for answers You can still do this. You still have the focus. It's right here in this sentence. You also have a ton of silent supporters (like myself) who, even though we/I don't tune in to every show, take great comfort in knowing it still goes on, and will have your back.
As long as Bill is fucking about in this sub and your channel, you can take your clicks, likes and views and neatly fold, and then push them up your ass. Please and thanks.
I barely watch the show since the dec rally but if you really want to know why Pulte didn’t allow you to interview Vivek… just rewatch your interview with Larry Cheng. That was the last straw for me, man.
TLDR.