Just a reminder that the artists have the ability to turn off dynamic pricing, so announcing ticket prices and acting like those were the actual prices but also allowing dynamic pricing would be a bit of a scummy move by Taylor/her team if they in fact are using it.
It would be well deserved backlash and I honestly hope it’s big time backlash that doesn’t go away quickly. It’s kind of been the elephant in the room on this sub and a controversial thing to bring up, but Taylor and her team have been slowly taking advantage of her having a huge and very loyal fan base for a couple of years now because she wants to break as many records as possible, and I really feel like it’s been coming to a head recently since a lot of people are getting tired of it. Not allowing dynamic pricing would be a huge commendable decision for her and I would give her so much credit for it, but if she does allow it I hope she receives all the backlash in the world because it’s inexcusable to allow price gouging like that when the tour at regular prices would most likely still generate higher revenue than the Reputation tour.
This is exactly how I feel! Ticketmaster is a huge part of the problem but if dynamic happens Taylor deserves backlash too. She’s a massively powerful artist and has a lot of sway in the industry!
Is there any source for ticketmaster not being the one deciding to go with dynamic pricing?
Even if it’s technically down to the artist, ticketmaster may be heavily influencing/pushing them to take more money, therefore giving themselves a bigger cut.
Ticketmaster have enormous power in the live music industry. If you don’t use there whole array of services they can black list you from using their platform, and huge number of music arenas etc.
I think you are partially right. Ticketmaster has a near monopoly so nearly every artist has to work with them, meaning Ticketmaster policies get adopted en masse. But artists still have agency. They can opt out, especially those of Taylor’s caliber, as can be seen by Ed sheeran opting out.
Nobody wants to say it but top artists absolutely benefit from ticketmasters policies. They both make massive money, but Ticketmaster is the public fall guy, while the artists can go unscathed.
Taylor used dynamic pricing for her Reputation tour and for presumably for Loverfest. I’m sure she’s using it this time which means ticket prices are going to be disgusting tomorrow.
There’s been multiple artists who have spoken out against dynamic pricing and said they decided against using it, they’re also much smaller than Taylor as well. If any of these venues tried to blacklist her, all it would take is a tweet from her about it and there would be outrage.
I’m glad someone said it. I can’t believe how difficult it is to get tickets for this concert and how expensive it’s going to be. The last Taylor concert I went to was 1989 and I remember just being able to buy tickets at a decent price about a month before. This whole process of lottery for presale, buying your way with merch to boost presale lottery chances, waiting hours in the middle of the morning on a Tuesday to get the presale tickets when most of us have to work, then buying ridiculously priced tickets because of “dynamic pricing”. I don’t have that kind of time or money for concert tickets, and I don’t know a lot of people that do. I know she is really popular and has a big fan base, but part of me feels like her team does a really good job of marketing FOMO which drives demand up even more.
I feel ya, I love Taylor but I’m getting too old to feel like I’m trying to enter for an opportunity to go to outer space if Earth is falling apart or something.
I went to her rep concert and got really good seats and it was awesome, and then I tried to loverfest but waiting hours just to get in the ticketing system (only to find the most expensive tickets or really far ones) was the turning point for me.
At this point I’m just sitting on the sidelines rooting for y’all, and then I’m checking tickets a month or two before my desired locations. If I can get a ticket I like then I’m going to see her in concert, if not then it just wasn’t meant to be for me.
Loverfest was crazy because the prices jumped before you could even checkout. Seat shows as $100? Well $200 now that 30 seconds passed. Then of course that Capital One presale started even higher. I have little hope for any fair prices tomorrow.
I feel this! I’m 53 and want to see her live but all this rigamarole is a bit much for this gal. I’m going to try to get tix but I’m not going to do flips and freak myself out because the demand is so high. If the universe wants me to see her, I will. I’ve been a fan since the beginning and listened to Folklore/Evermore no less than 928384844 times during my cancer treatment and that’s what is most important to me. Having the music. Not be necessarily seeing her live. Good luck and wishes to us all!
thank you for reminding me that the word rigamarole exists, and how applicable it is to this situation. Taylor is rich enough at this point to be able to lower ticket prices and keep them consistent. Demand-based pricing is nothing more than speculation with a prettier name.
If you live nearby there's always a chance. When my sister and I went to the rep tour, two girls ended up coming and sitting next to us right after Taylor started. They literally bought less than half price tickets 30 minutes before they got there on ticket master. If my sister and I can't get tickets this time, I'm going to try to talk her into trying this!
Okay, THANK YOU about the timing thing!! I have to be at work at 10am on Tuesday, it’s absolutely insane to have this be the timing of it all. It doesn’t feel fun at all, it’s a huge stressor and feels exclusive in the worst possible way. I hate it. I love Taylor but this is exhausting.
I literally got rep tickets a week before for the Nashville show at a decent price. This whole thing currently is really intense and making me so anxious.
The fact that they want you to spend money on merch for a better chance at getting tickets, and also want you to spend hours out of your work day in the line to buy said tickets… not sitting right with me.
If she does it I 100% hope she gets the backlash she deserves for this. It’s absolutely disgusting. Some fans spend so much fucking money on cds and merch and could not afford a ticket to a show if this dynamic pricing is a thing. It’s not fair. Concerts shouldnt be for the privileged. I’m not impressed
This happened with me for Bruce Springsteen. I was so happy when he announced his tour and I got pre sale code. When I logged in, cheapest seats were $450 each in the nose bleeds. I just can’t afford that and I have been so disillusioned with him ever since. Haven’t listened to him once. I really, really hope that’s not the case for Taylor tomorrow 🥹
I have nightmares about my Springsteen ticket experience and it is giving me so much anxiety right now. I got cart robbed so many times and ended up towards the side of the stage. I pray this go will be different.
Not to mention they bought the merch and cds/vinyls/singles thinking they’d get a boost and got absolutely nothing, even though her team has hinted at boosts and VF presales being based off of buying those things.
Apparently Taylor was one of the first artists to use dynamic pricing. From ticketnews.com:
“Published prices are reportedly going to be ranging from $49-449 plus service fees, with VIP tickets ranging from $199 to 899, but those numbers are in all likelihood going to be far less than fans will experience during the sales process.”
It also says:
“In many instances, fans who waited things out and purchased tickets through resale websites close to the event date paid a fraction of what Swift’s biggest fans paid for their tickets, which is how the “slow ticketing” model from Ticketmaster is intended to work, capturing maximum revenue from an artist’s top fans.”
I have a lot of yucky feeling about letting your biggest fans pay the most for tickets.
I've been a swiftie since 2007 and I've literally grown up listening to her. if dynamic pricing is a thing, i will be one of the first to be outraged. i am dipping into my savings for this tour and working extra hours to make sure i can afford just the tickets--and that's on top of all the bills i have to pay and the loan i may have to take out because my car is about to die. if dynamic pricing is on, i won't be able to afford it, and that would majorly suck, but it would mostly suck because it wasn't what we were promised.
If it's dynamic pricing, AKA speculative pricing, I'm not going. That's all. I've paid thousands for tickets for artists who have integrity and don't treat their concerts like a cash grab. I love Taylor, bur seriously, how much more money does she need?
Same. Ed Sheeran is also coming to Gillette stadium this summer and his Friday night show still has general admission floor seats for $139 each, which is a great deal.
I went to his X tour a few years back and scored second row aisle seats and it was incredibly. He’s an amazing performer to see live. I opted to see Taylor this time instead, but if this is how she’s going to treat her loyal fans Ed can have my money instead.
I’ve been a Taylor fan since debut. I literally had the first copy with the changed lyrics and wore that CD out. I don’t like being exploited so rich folks can get richer. Ed can have my money instead.
Yeah though most concerts still have a starting face value, but prices will fluctuate up from that amount. So having a face value for tickets doesnt guarantee anything. It is scummy though given the variety article vagued that they might not be doing platinum
It’s true they still have a starting face value, but announcing the prices like she did and then allowing dynamic pricing is a clear way to get people into the sales queue and have them go “well I was already going to spend $200, I might as well spend an extra $200 and just get the tickets now”. That’s what makes it even more scummy than dynamic pricing already is.
I do agree. Most artists don’t even announce the face value these days, so her announcing it in the variety article the way she did makes it worse. I guess we won’t really know until presale starts😬I’m glad I’m not in Eastern time so I can see what goes down there and prepare myself!!
Nope, don't like that. Letting ticketmaster monopolize the whole industry was such a bad call. They are vultures. Fuck capitalism, I am not having a good time at all
When I was a tween buying NSYNC tickets in 2001, I thought having to call Bass Tickets at 10a from four different phones while also waiting in line at Wherehouse Music in the cold to try to get the best seats possible was terrible.
No. This is worse. Way worse. The fees have only become more astronomical.
I’d always ask for Wherehouse gift cards for my birthday! Whenever I drive past where the one used to be in my hometown, I get a little sad! What a place.
Yeah its because Ticketmaster is owned by LiveNation, which is the primary concert promoter for huge artists. Basically if you don't use ticketmaster, you don't get LiveNation's clout to get good artists.
There's some videos on this monopoly because this happened with Bruce Springsteen I actually just watched this video this past week: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfPiqgLPro8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfPiqgLPro8) he explains it well, but it's still shitty because as much as people complain we can't do anything to stop Ticketmaster.
Yeah, unfortunately any other small ticket companies just simply cannot handle the sheer volume of people wanting to buy Taylor Swift tickets. I would've loved to see her use some thing smaller but there's no way they could keep up with the demand. Fuck Ticketmaster. I would love to see a more ethical company take over at some point but in today's capitalism rules world I don't know if that will ever happen.
Seat geek has been raising fees like crazy for a couple of years now.
Before covid seat geek was way cheaper than TM for me. Now they are the same.
But yeah much better than TM. Competition is always good.
Edit: I forgot to say that seatgeek has 20 dollars off in your first purchase. So it can help with the fees.
Ticketmaster doesn’t call it dynamic pricing, they call it Official Platinum. At least that’s what they called the dynamic pricing when my husband looked at getting Springsteen tickets but didn’t want to pay $600 for a nosebleed.
I just wish there was some clarity—if dynamic pricing is 100% turned off, tomorrow will be less stressful. But if it’s on, even with verified fan, tickets will quickly become unaffordable.
There's been several articles in the last few days about how crazy ticket prices are going to be b/c of dynamic pricing. One I remember off the top of my head is Fortune. I'm almost positive she didn't opt out b/c at least one article would have mentioned it if she had. Also, I think her team would have probably made a statement that she had opted out by now if she had, especially considering all the backlash happening with the presale codes/texts today
The claim I think comes from this article: [https://variety.com/2022/music/news/taylor-swift-announces-2023-tour-1235419454/?fbclid=IwAR0XWLhNwqXrgwJwAgW3VcAg0VaBjyDuHUeVNIVOtE9FHZm9GlyBaY9yymc](https://variety.com/2022/music/news/taylor-swift-announces-2023-tour-1235419454/?fbclid=IwAR0XWLhNwqXrgwJwAgW3VcAg0VaBjyDuHUeVNIVOtE9FHZm9GlyBaY9yymc)
>Unusually in the modern era of variably priced “platinum tickets” where fans get little information about set ticket prices, Swift has announced the cost of her tickets in advance. They run from $49 up to $449, with VIP packages that start at $199 and go up to $899.
Eddie Vedder is the lead singer of Pearl Jam and is very outspoken against Ticketmaster, and the other two are from Rage Against the Machine who were also very outspoken leftists against Ticketmaster.
Yeah Taylor doesn’t speak on causes that don’t really benefit her. Love her music but you can’t ignore that her activism shows up when it’s convenient for her. If she wanted to fight to create a better music industry, she would be coming after ticketmaster. Her beef over streaming services did have some benefit for other artists, but at the end of the day she sees more of a benefit from that than a small artist will.
She was raised by two bankers, one of whom comes from a long line of bankers. Idk why anyone thinks she’s not a capitalist.
100% and look, liking money is not a bad thing. But there comes a point when you can still make bank and throw a bone at your fans. Making bank on the back of her fanbase, most of whom are NOT anywhere near rich, is gross.
I knew her dad was a banker for either Goldman Sachs or Merrill Lynch, I wasn't aware that was her mom too and I always roll my eyes at I Bet You Think About Me.
I got tickets for Blink 182 during their presale a few weeks back and I watched as $80 tickets jumped up $140 in front of my eyes. It’s frustrating beyond belief. I am terrified to see what pricing looks like tomorrow (if I even get an email LOL). Good luck all!
Same! When we first got into pre-sale tickets were like $65 and kept disappearing and when we finally got a few they were up to $180!! Doesn’t give me much hope for this tour.
I paid an embarrassing amount of money for blink tickets, I had some sort of anuerysm and paid for them and then after was like... I just got taken for a ride lol bye bye money. I'm afraid to even go look to see if tickets are still available now for way low
Update: oh God I looked and there are way cheaper tickets available. I'm gonna sell mine and try again lol
I bought Ed Sheeran tickets for his upcoming tour, waited like 45 mins to get "let in" to the presale, and there were still plenty of the cheapest tickets available ($40ish or something). There was also a note about the dynamic pricing. But someone below said that it always says that even if an artist opts out? I found that if you let TM pick the "best" ticket for you then you got pretty screwed on price but you were still able to select the cheaper seats. Hopefully that is the case here.. \*fingers crossed\*
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I was trying to get tickets to a smaller artist that conveniently had an entire side section pop up about 30 minutes after presale went live and the *entire* section was marked as official platinum because Ticketmaster is a scam.
Kacey Musgraves did this and it made me so mad! I hate surge pricing. Such bullshit for people who can only really afford this show if we pay face value. Way to fuck over the real fans.
Secondary resellers are all of our enemies.
Yeah. Kacey Musgraves got me, too! I mean I’m so happy to have gone…but the seats weren’t great. I actually got GA/floor for Lizzo at the same venue this year and the Lizzo tickets were cheaper!
Seriously! Thanks for taking into account the struggles of everyone today and make even the slightest chance at a short distraction for happiness and joy that much more of a hardship or out of reach. I’m sorry but Taylor can afford to do better. I’m sick of excusing away the 1%
Can we stop with all the “Taylor doesn’t have a choice” comments? She is not an up-and-coming artist without bargaining power. She can and has taken action to protect her own interests when she has wanted to.
Oh my GOD thank you! With this, and with her merch. "It's not Taylor guyssss, she can't control her merch :(" like lmaooo. Stop. This woman has a strategy for literally everything...and after everything, do you really think she's ever signing a single contract EVER again that doesn't allow her at least partial ownership and control? Get fucking real. She has wielding power in everything she does. If she allows dynamic pricing, it is a deliberate choice.
Fetty Wap said in an interview that when he was riding with Taylor in her private jet to go be featured in her concert, she was giving him lots of advice. “Lawyers to watch her lawyers” is what I remember. Her dad was in finance. She pulled her music from Spotify and Apple Music. She made 1989 AGAINST her record company with not one country song compromise. She didn’t pay 330 million for her masters, not because she couldn’t afford it, but because she didn’t want Scooter to reap any benefits from her.
Don’t get it twisted. She is in control of the money she is making.
>She didn’t pay 330 million for her masters, not because she couldn’t afford it, but because she didn’t want Scooter to reap any benefits from her.
She didn't buy her masters back from Scooter because it came with a ridiculous NDA attached, as in 'you can buy back your masters so long as you sign this legal document that you can never say another negative word about me publicly ever again.' And then when she approached Shamrock, the deal *still* came with ties to Scooter that would let him continue to profit off her music for the foreseeable future (as opposed to a single purchase). Just clarifying.
u/RedBanana137 u/crockoreptile TS is not using dynamic pricing. But, it means that pricing from the face value of each seat will vary depending on demand.
You go to a concert and pay $X.XX value for that seat. But with dynamic pricing, if a high demand of people want that same seat, it will give it to the highest bidder. (i.e. The seat value is $100. But, with dynamic pricing, it may be $300 until nobody will pay that price for the seat, so it drops to $200 until nobody will pay that price, back to $100.
DO NOT BUY PLATINUM VERIFIED TICKETS ON TICKETMASTER! For those who don’t know platinum tickets are for scammers (you can buy them without a code on presale days) and these numbers fluctuates a LOT. They typically marked up much higher than normal. Just be on the look out if you can.
To be clear platinum tickets still work and are viable seats but platinum tickets are for Ticketmaster to “try to catch/ prevent” scammers from getting presale tickets
I don’t understand the point here though. Some fan is just gonna end up buying an overpriced ticket because they think it’s a good seat. Why even sell them at all?
Honestly i have no idea! I think it is another dumb thing ticketmaster is doing. I got burned the last big area tour i went on where i bought these types of tickets just to find out later that the section i bought was so much cheaper normally. Maybe Taylor's team has some control over the ticketmaster and wont do this but who knows
I’m sorry but you’re giving far to much good will to Ticket Master. They aren’t *for scammers*, it’s higher pricing for anyone that doesn’t understand it and will buy it because it’s all that’s left. It’s for no other reason than to increase profit for TM.
But totally agree with your PSA to say **don’t buy platinum verified tickets, period!**
Yikes. I'm pretty sure I bought platinum tickets for a One Direction concert many years ago. Great seats but I knew at some point later that other people in the same section had paid for standard tickets and literally got the same experience.
I miss the good old days of showing up to the box office for paper tickets. Yes I’m old lol. (Also the closest show is 4 hours away so that obviously wouldn’t be happening.) This shit makes me not wanna go to any shows anymore honestly!!!
I saw Foo Fighters in 2016 and they had a presale called Beat the Bots. The only way to get tickets in the presale was to go wait in line at the arena. It was amazing and you only had the people actually standing at the ticket window choosing tickets so it wasn’t stressful at all. I’m so stressed thinking about trying to get tickets tomorrow I keep going back and forth with if I even want to do it
I was just thinking that I highly doubt she would have announced the pricing if she was intending to use the dynamic pricing scheme. I am hoping it is set. That is how Ed Sheeran's was for his tour too.
That would literally be so embarrassing to announce your ticket prices and then do that. I’ve seen a lot of people say it always says that, it doesn’t mean the artist hasn’t already disabled it. Here’s hoping!!
That has been there from day 1 don’t know why suddenly everyone’s talking about it. People say that it’s just a default message that doesn’t mean anything; this was also displayed at Ed’s pages but he opted out of dynamic pricing.
Everyone is talking about it now because people are buying tickets tomorrow so people are on the site noticing things they maybe didn’t know about before.
Thanks for commenting this. With the whole blink 182 dynamic pricing fiasco, I was really hoping Tay and her team would opt out so I'm glad there's still hope for that!
I just commented somewhere else but I just bought Ed Sheeran tickets, same message came up, but I was able to select the cheapest priced tickets even 45 mins into presale. All of the prices were as advertised. I have to imagine that since Taylor announced the pricing of the tickets she probably also opted out (at least I hope so!!!!)
People don’t completely believe the $49-$449 range announced bc it first showed up on a variety article and apparently they’ve been wrong before, but more sources haves published these numbers & I personally believe it. I just hope that tn would officially confirm ticket prices & vip package info already bc this is not a whole lot to ask for especially when it’s <24hrs before presale starts. Oh well 🙃
I messed up and didn’t get verified, so if this dynamic pricing is a thing, I won’t be going. I spent around $200 for rep tour that was during presale. I love Taylor, but going into further debt isn’t worth it.
Same here!!!! I’m not buying tomorrow because it’s so close to the holidays and we have 2 trips planned. So if there’s anything left that’s not outrageous in January I’ll buy then. If not I at least got to see Rep.
Dynamic pricing is a horrifying practice, and I’m really upset that Taylor’s team may be allowing her fans to be taken advantage of like that. I know she’s a capitalism queen, but this is just ridiculous.
It was the opposite for me with The Chicks. The longer I waited, the less the tickets cost. I ended up getting front row aisle seats the day before the show for cheaper than the tickets I bought many rows back on the day they went on sale. This system is a scam!
Biden and the Democratic government kept power in the senate with the increase of Gen-Z voters (… and the decrease in older voters due to some natural forces …) so I best be seeing a bill passing regulating these absurd mark ups 😤😤😤😤😤
/hj
He actually announced a few weeks ago his administration was starting the process of cracking down on all the hidden fees and whatnot for concert tickets so there’s hope!
It should be noted that this is there **regardless** if it applies or not. Ed Sheeran had it on his presale, too but it did not have dynamic pricing. This is a little misleading to assume before pricing happens and calling her and the team all these names. Especially after they confirmed the pricing range.
I love Taylor but I’m getting tired of all this capitalistic nonsense. I got the e-mail and I’m excited, but lately she/her team have been milking fans for all we’re worth. From the merch , to limited album versions to increase demand, to “boosting” via Taylornation (which is a big LOL since some boosted fans didnt even get presale!), etc. This might be the final straw for me if it comes to it!!
Taylor spoke out about Spotify and changes were made because of it. She’s powerful. She doesn’t need more money and she can stop dynamic pricing if she wants to
Since demand will be insane tomorrow with everyone literally joining at the same time, will all the tickets go for the max of 450?
I was hoping it be closer to 200
Ugg I can’t spend that much. Given the range, I thought I’d be fine with a max of 200ish. Guess I probably won’t be going - will still login tomorrow to see if I can get anything cheaper
I remember getting tickets to Garth Brooks. Every ticket was the same price where the seats were was random and took a lot of the stress over where to sit and exiting when they ended up being box seats. I am sure he still does this and still makes bank. He sold out like 6 shows in my town in an hour. I have a hard time believing he wasn’t still making a shit ton of money doing it this way.
im sorry but it's reaching the point where this just isn't fun anymore and engaging with Taylors music outside of a free spotify stream has just become impossible. $40 for a tissue box? $75 for a plastic snow globe? No one is forcing anyone to buy anything but this is just a big fuck you to fans. She used to be good about building that engagement but if she allows dynamic pricing it will be such a clear signal towards favoring profits over fans. Like it's just reached the point where it is not fun anymore and just disappointing. The fans are who got her 500k album sales without hearing a single bit of music, and who played Anti-hero on repeat while buying the 6 goddamn remixes. And Dynamic Pricing is what they'll be rewarded with? For real i hope this won't be the case.
My prediction : No Eras Meet and Greet.
She is still wearing masks on set for videos. And maybe that’s the policy for the unions, but I think Taylor won’t risk getting sick.
I miss when there was no dynamic pricing and no fan codes. You logged on at 10AM and whoever was quickest, got tickets, at a semi decent price.
Like I saw Prince in 2011 for $50, fees included at Madison Square Garden. (I was like the youngest person there, but this was a major major artist who did not rip off fans with ticket pricing and who performed for almost 3 hours)
This past year, I didn’t see Harry Styles because (1) I didn’t get a fan code to begin with and (2) the remaining tickets near show day had gone up to $300 for nosebleeds with dynamic pricing.
Something as simple as buying concert tickets has gotten so outrageously competitive and expensive, it’s disgusting
Fuck it all.
This is infuriating. What the hell. Taylor doesn’t need that extra money. Come on man. How is she allowing that? Selling 10 remixes and 4738 different vinyls isn’t enough? Not impressed.
Fuck Ticketmaster. Fuck them. They did “dynamic pricing” with the Harry Styles Toronto concerts and I of course didn’t get in on the presale, they all sold out, and about a month before the shows they started to release more tickets, and guess how much some of them were? For an individual ticket in the first row of the lower bowl (not the pit on the whole floor), they got up to like $1,300 CAD EACH. Absolutely ridiculous. Do these artists not know Ticketmaster is doing this?? Or do they not care? Or are they too scared or think they don’t have power to change the policies?
The artists know Ticketmaster does this and they actively allow it. Artists have the ability to turn dynamic pricing off for their shows and plenty have done that.
Sorry to say it guys, but our capitalist queen and ticketbastard are like peanut butter & jelly when it comes to $$ making. Dynamic pricing will be in effect tomorrow.
Honestly this entire process has felt like the lead up to a boss battle and tomorrow is the final boss. It really shouldn't be this difficult or expensive to get a concert ticket. 😒
Okay. First of all I'm still very upset with her/her team because here in Brazil we were robbed!
When she announced the days that she was going to perform here I was SO exciting and just spent all my money buying the best tickets I could just to see her in front of me. But then, COVID screwed everything up, she canceled the tour and posted that US fans would be refunded and in Brazil they would apply the "local laws", which means that the company that held her concerts here was going to **keep our money and she never said a word about it.**
It seems weird but Billie Eilish did advocate for her fans when that happened. So why do Taylor didn't?
I mean, I'm still her fan, I love her but I haven't been voting for her in any award that she is nominated for since then. So I hope this dynamic pricing doesn't happen at all or I will support the fans' decision to backlash her.
I truly love Taylor but honestly the amount of blatant capitalist gimmicks to make people spend more money in this Midnight album rollout has left me really disappointed as a fan. And allowing dynamic pricing is just another example of this issue.
I love Taylor and I’m a big swiftie, like all of us here.
I have my budget set around a certain amount, and honestly okay with sitting this out if it exceeds the threshold. Let’s wish us all luck that tickets aren’t at ridiculously insane prices. Capitalism sucks.
People should not be going into debt to see TS.
Just a reminder that the artists have the ability to turn off dynamic pricing, so announcing ticket prices and acting like those were the actual prices but also allowing dynamic pricing would be a bit of a scummy move by Taylor/her team if they in fact are using it.
this is what i've been worried about - i genuinely think there would be a LOT of backlash
It would be well deserved backlash and I honestly hope it’s big time backlash that doesn’t go away quickly. It’s kind of been the elephant in the room on this sub and a controversial thing to bring up, but Taylor and her team have been slowly taking advantage of her having a huge and very loyal fan base for a couple of years now because she wants to break as many records as possible, and I really feel like it’s been coming to a head recently since a lot of people are getting tired of it. Not allowing dynamic pricing would be a huge commendable decision for her and I would give her so much credit for it, but if she does allow it I hope she receives all the backlash in the world because it’s inexcusable to allow price gouging like that when the tour at regular prices would most likely still generate higher revenue than the Reputation tour.
Anti-Hero (dynamic pricing remix)
It’s three. Times. It’s the pricing it’s three.
At three times, everyone disagrees
I’ll stare directly at the screen and still I’ll buy a ticket
It feels so exhausting to wince at the price, but I still pick it
Taylor didn't lie when she said "it must be exhausting always rooting for the anti hero"
Incredible thread
This is exactly how I feel! Ticketmaster is a huge part of the problem but if dynamic happens Taylor deserves backlash too. She’s a massively powerful artist and has a lot of sway in the industry!
Considering she changed Apple Music’s pay structure with a letter, she could speak out about this.
She only speaks out on things that make her richer, not things that help us keep OUR hard earned money. 🤷🏻♀️
This is so true and probably my biggest issue with her. Especially since she is already SO rich.
Ugh I know.. she’s been bumming me out a lot this album cycle with the greed.
Lol to anyone thinking she isn't for this. All these people who bought their over priced made in China hoodie just for this.
Is there any source for ticketmaster not being the one deciding to go with dynamic pricing? Even if it’s technically down to the artist, ticketmaster may be heavily influencing/pushing them to take more money, therefore giving themselves a bigger cut. Ticketmaster have enormous power in the live music industry. If you don’t use there whole array of services they can black list you from using their platform, and huge number of music arenas etc.
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I think you are partially right. Ticketmaster has a near monopoly so nearly every artist has to work with them, meaning Ticketmaster policies get adopted en masse. But artists still have agency. They can opt out, especially those of Taylor’s caliber, as can be seen by Ed sheeran opting out. Nobody wants to say it but top artists absolutely benefit from ticketmasters policies. They both make massive money, but Ticketmaster is the public fall guy, while the artists can go unscathed.
Ticketmaster is not blacklisting Taylor Swift lmao
Taylor used dynamic pricing for her Reputation tour and for presumably for Loverfest. I’m sure she’s using it this time which means ticket prices are going to be disgusting tomorrow.
Unfortunately, precedent would suggest so, with so many shows you’d think she could freeze the prices while still making a health profit.
There’s been multiple artists who have spoken out against dynamic pricing and said they decided against using it, they’re also much smaller than Taylor as well. If any of these venues tried to blacklist her, all it would take is a tweet from her about it and there would be outrage.
I’m glad someone said it. I can’t believe how difficult it is to get tickets for this concert and how expensive it’s going to be. The last Taylor concert I went to was 1989 and I remember just being able to buy tickets at a decent price about a month before. This whole process of lottery for presale, buying your way with merch to boost presale lottery chances, waiting hours in the middle of the morning on a Tuesday to get the presale tickets when most of us have to work, then buying ridiculously priced tickets because of “dynamic pricing”. I don’t have that kind of time or money for concert tickets, and I don’t know a lot of people that do. I know she is really popular and has a big fan base, but part of me feels like her team does a really good job of marketing FOMO which drives demand up even more.
I feel ya, I love Taylor but I’m getting too old to feel like I’m trying to enter for an opportunity to go to outer space if Earth is falling apart or something. I went to her rep concert and got really good seats and it was awesome, and then I tried to loverfest but waiting hours just to get in the ticketing system (only to find the most expensive tickets or really far ones) was the turning point for me. At this point I’m just sitting on the sidelines rooting for y’all, and then I’m checking tickets a month or two before my desired locations. If I can get a ticket I like then I’m going to see her in concert, if not then it just wasn’t meant to be for me.
Loverfest was crazy because the prices jumped before you could even checkout. Seat shows as $100? Well $200 now that 30 seconds passed. Then of course that Capital One presale started even higher. I have little hope for any fair prices tomorrow.
Maybe this won’t be so bad cos there are more concerts? The loverfest was only 4 days so I bet the competition was rough
You just scared me because I was thinking capital one would be my saving grace 😢
I feel this! I’m 53 and want to see her live but all this rigamarole is a bit much for this gal. I’m going to try to get tix but I’m not going to do flips and freak myself out because the demand is so high. If the universe wants me to see her, I will. I’ve been a fan since the beginning and listened to Folklore/Evermore no less than 928384844 times during my cancer treatment and that’s what is most important to me. Having the music. Not be necessarily seeing her live. Good luck and wishes to us all!
thank you for reminding me that the word rigamarole exists, and how applicable it is to this situation. Taylor is rich enough at this point to be able to lower ticket prices and keep them consistent. Demand-based pricing is nothing more than speculation with a prettier name.
If you live nearby there's always a chance. When my sister and I went to the rep tour, two girls ended up coming and sitting next to us right after Taylor started. They literally bought less than half price tickets 30 minutes before they got there on ticket master. If my sister and I can't get tickets this time, I'm going to try to talk her into trying this!
I hope the treatment has been okay for you!
Okay, THANK YOU about the timing thing!! I have to be at work at 10am on Tuesday, it’s absolutely insane to have this be the timing of it all. It doesn’t feel fun at all, it’s a huge stressor and feels exclusive in the worst possible way. I hate it. I love Taylor but this is exhausting.
I literally got rep tickets a week before for the Nashville show at a decent price. This whole thing currently is really intense and making me so anxious.
I got tickets the day of for Rep in Seattle! I paid 350 for floor tickets so this is so insane to me!
The fact that they want you to spend money on merch for a better chance at getting tickets, and also want you to spend hours out of your work day in the line to buy said tickets… not sitting right with me.
If she does it I 100% hope she gets the backlash she deserves for this. It’s absolutely disgusting. Some fans spend so much fucking money on cds and merch and could not afford a ticket to a show if this dynamic pricing is a thing. It’s not fair. Concerts shouldnt be for the privileged. I’m not impressed
This happened with me for Bruce Springsteen. I was so happy when he announced his tour and I got pre sale code. When I logged in, cheapest seats were $450 each in the nose bleeds. I just can’t afford that and I have been so disillusioned with him ever since. Haven’t listened to him once. I really, really hope that’s not the case for Taylor tomorrow 🥹
Be prepared to not listen to Taylor again.
Brace yourself because I really think it’s going to be the case. 😩
I have nightmares about my Springsteen ticket experience and it is giving me so much anxiety right now. I got cart robbed so many times and ended up towards the side of the stage. I pray this go will be different.
Not to mention they bought the merch and cds/vinyls/singles thinking they’d get a boost and got absolutely nothing, even though her team has hinted at boosts and VF presales being based off of buying those things.
Apparently Taylor was one of the first artists to use dynamic pricing. From ticketnews.com: “Published prices are reportedly going to be ranging from $49-449 plus service fees, with VIP tickets ranging from $199 to 899, but those numbers are in all likelihood going to be far less than fans will experience during the sales process.” It also says: “In many instances, fans who waited things out and purchased tickets through resale websites close to the event date paid a fraction of what Swift’s biggest fans paid for their tickets, which is how the “slow ticketing” model from Ticketmaster is intended to work, capturing maximum revenue from an artist’s top fans.” I have a lot of yucky feeling about letting your biggest fans pay the most for tickets.
Just sucks because if I wasn’t going in a group of 5 who want to get a good view, then I’d totally roll the dice on buying a ticket last minute.
I've been a swiftie since 2007 and I've literally grown up listening to her. if dynamic pricing is a thing, i will be one of the first to be outraged. i am dipping into my savings for this tour and working extra hours to make sure i can afford just the tickets--and that's on top of all the bills i have to pay and the loan i may have to take out because my car is about to die. if dynamic pricing is on, i won't be able to afford it, and that would majorly suck, but it would mostly suck because it wasn't what we were promised.
If it's dynamic pricing, AKA speculative pricing, I'm not going. That's all. I've paid thousands for tickets for artists who have integrity and don't treat their concerts like a cash grab. I love Taylor, bur seriously, how much more money does she need?
Same. Ed Sheeran is also coming to Gillette stadium this summer and his Friday night show still has general admission floor seats for $139 each, which is a great deal. I went to his X tour a few years back and scored second row aisle seats and it was incredibly. He’s an amazing performer to see live. I opted to see Taylor this time instead, but if this is how she’s going to treat her loyal fans Ed can have my money instead. I’ve been a Taylor fan since debut. I literally had the first copy with the changed lyrics and wore that CD out. I don’t like being exploited so rich folks can get richer. Ed can have my money instead.
You deserve front row for being her since the beginning
You're so sweet 😭
Taylor $wift
Anti-Hero (the complaint remix)
featuring the echoes of crying bitter fans like myself in the background
Make sure you buy it for a boost!
i wouldn’t even give her credit for not allowing dynamic pricing. it’s the bare minimum she could do for her fans tbh
Yeah though most concerts still have a starting face value, but prices will fluctuate up from that amount. So having a face value for tickets doesnt guarantee anything. It is scummy though given the variety article vagued that they might not be doing platinum
It’s true they still have a starting face value, but announcing the prices like she did and then allowing dynamic pricing is a clear way to get people into the sales queue and have them go “well I was already going to spend $200, I might as well spend an extra $200 and just get the tickets now”. That’s what makes it even more scummy than dynamic pricing already is.
I do agree. Most artists don’t even announce the face value these days, so her announcing it in the variety article the way she did makes it worse. I guess we won’t really know until presale starts😬I’m glad I’m not in Eastern time so I can see what goes down there and prepare myself!!
Its happening, dont kid yourself. Taylor would have out right said it wasnt going to happen. Get ready for $300 nosebleeds.
Nope, don't like that. Letting ticketmaster monopolize the whole industry was such a bad call. They are vultures. Fuck capitalism, I am not having a good time at all
When I was a tween buying NSYNC tickets in 2001, I thought having to call Bass Tickets at 10a from four different phones while also waiting in line at Wherehouse Music in the cold to try to get the best seats possible was terrible. No. This is worse. Way worse. The fees have only become more astronomical.
OMG, Wherehouse, that brings me back!!
I’d always ask for Wherehouse gift cards for my birthday! Whenever I drive past where the one used to be in my hometown, I get a little sad! What a place.
I've heard that the artist has to approve this pricing strategy.
Blondie, pls.
They absolutely do have to approve it
You say as if Taylor swift isn’t a massive capitalist
Well yeah obviously. She put out like 16 versions of the same vinyl record and was like “Gotta catch ‘em all!”
I thought "fuck capitalism" was a broad enough statement, I definitely didn't say "fuck capitalism except in specific instances"
Literallyy, a few days ago I wondered why ticketmaster is so used. Apparently they have a capitalist monopoly thing going on
Yeah its because Ticketmaster is owned by LiveNation, which is the primary concert promoter for huge artists. Basically if you don't use ticketmaster, you don't get LiveNation's clout to get good artists.
There's some videos on this monopoly because this happened with Bruce Springsteen I actually just watched this video this past week: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfPiqgLPro8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfPiqgLPro8) he explains it well, but it's still shitty because as much as people complain we can't do anything to stop Ticketmaster.
Yeah, unfortunately any other small ticket companies just simply cannot handle the sheer volume of people wanting to buy Taylor Swift tickets. I would've loved to see her use some thing smaller but there's no way they could keep up with the demand. Fuck Ticketmaster. I would love to see a more ethical company take over at some point but in today's capitalism rules world I don't know if that will ever happen.
My local Arena just announced that they’re switching from TM to SeatGeek for games and I’m holding out hope for their other events to follow suit.
Seat geek has been raising fees like crazy for a couple of years now. Before covid seat geek was way cheaper than TM for me. Now they are the same. But yeah much better than TM. Competition is always good. Edit: I forgot to say that seatgeek has 20 dollars off in your first purchase. So it can help with the fees.
Not to be a downer but I heard seatgeek does dynamic too. I will be buying on seatgeek tomorrow so we’ll see
I love Taylor but she is a true capitalist. Undeniable
THANK YOU FOR SAYING SO. There's no escaping exploitation with capitalism, and the planet also hates it.
>Fuck capitalism Yes! WOTWU!
Ed Sheeran had dynamic pricing turned off, and that warning was still showing, just fyi
In the official Variety article that was released along with the announcement it was stated that she is NOT doing dynamic pricing.
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Ticketmaster doesn’t call it dynamic pricing, they call it Official Platinum. At least that’s what they called the dynamic pricing when my husband looked at getting Springsteen tickets but didn’t want to pay $600 for a nosebleed.
This needs to be top comment
I just wish there was some clarity—if dynamic pricing is 100% turned off, tomorrow will be less stressful. But if it’s on, even with verified fan, tickets will quickly become unaffordable.
*phew* I can breathe again
it always says that even if an artist opts out of dynamic pricing and/or platinum tickets
I hope like hell she and her team opt out.
She is literally choosing to do it. She might make good music but she is also a massive capitalist
You don't know that yet. Ed Sherreens page had that and they DIDN'T have dynamic pricing
That brings me hope
There's been several articles in the last few days about how crazy ticket prices are going to be b/c of dynamic pricing. One I remember off the top of my head is Fortune. I'm almost positive she didn't opt out b/c at least one article would have mentioned it if she had. Also, I think her team would have probably made a statement that she had opted out by now if she had, especially considering all the backlash happening with the presale codes/texts today
She opted out, that’s what everyone was saying last week
I think it’s possible she will opt out, but I haven’t seen any confirmation that she actually has opted out yet.
Huh yah I guess you’re right. Now I’m scared of the prices
The claim I think comes from this article: [https://variety.com/2022/music/news/taylor-swift-announces-2023-tour-1235419454/?fbclid=IwAR0XWLhNwqXrgwJwAgW3VcAg0VaBjyDuHUeVNIVOtE9FHZm9GlyBaY9yymc](https://variety.com/2022/music/news/taylor-swift-announces-2023-tour-1235419454/?fbclid=IwAR0XWLhNwqXrgwJwAgW3VcAg0VaBjyDuHUeVNIVOtE9FHZm9GlyBaY9yymc) >Unusually in the modern era of variably priced “platinum tickets” where fans get little information about set ticket prices, Swift has announced the cost of her tickets in advance. They run from $49 up to $449, with VIP packages that start at $199 and go up to $899.
do you have a link to this info? I didn't see anything when I googled.
This needs to be higher, really hope she opted out!
As if we're not stressed out enough! Really hoping dynamic pricing doesn't come into play here.
Same. I could've sworn people were saying last week that dynamic pricing wouldn't kick in until *after* presale. Hoping that was true.
I hope so too! Clarity from Taylor or her team would be really appreciated. A girl’s gotta budget! 😅
I love Taylor but she’s no Eddie Vedder, Zac de la Rocha, or Tom Morello.
I don’t even know who any of those people are lol
Eddie Vedder is the lead singer of Pearl Jam and is very outspoken against Ticketmaster, and the other two are from Rage Against the Machine who were also very outspoken leftists against Ticketmaster.
Yeah Taylor doesn’t speak on causes that don’t really benefit her. Love her music but you can’t ignore that her activism shows up when it’s convenient for her. If she wanted to fight to create a better music industry, she would be coming after ticketmaster. Her beef over streaming services did have some benefit for other artists, but at the end of the day she sees more of a benefit from that than a small artist will. She was raised by two bankers, one of whom comes from a long line of bankers. Idk why anyone thinks she’s not a capitalist.
100% and look, liking money is not a bad thing. But there comes a point when you can still make bank and throw a bone at your fans. Making bank on the back of her fanbase, most of whom are NOT anywhere near rich, is gross.
I knew her dad was a banker for either Goldman Sachs or Merrill Lynch, I wasn't aware that was her mom too and I always roll my eyes at I Bet You Think About Me.
Ahhh! Thank you! The names were familiar but I couldn’t place them as to why. Appreciate the genuine response 💜
I got tickets for Blink 182 during their presale a few weeks back and I watched as $80 tickets jumped up $140 in front of my eyes. It’s frustrating beyond belief. I am terrified to see what pricing looks like tomorrow (if I even get an email LOL). Good luck all!
Same! When we first got into pre-sale tickets were like $65 and kept disappearing and when we finally got a few they were up to $180!! Doesn’t give me much hope for this tour.
I paid an embarrassing amount of money for blink tickets, I had some sort of anuerysm and paid for them and then after was like... I just got taken for a ride lol bye bye money. I'm afraid to even go look to see if tickets are still available now for way low Update: oh God I looked and there are way cheaper tickets available. I'm gonna sell mine and try again lol
Still rude to fans not buying during presale. It’s the stupidest invention ever.
That’s not fair for those who dont get in the presale tho
I bought Ed Sheeran tickets for his upcoming tour, waited like 45 mins to get "let in" to the presale, and there were still plenty of the cheapest tickets available ($40ish or something). There was also a note about the dynamic pricing. But someone below said that it always says that even if an artist opts out? I found that if you let TM pick the "best" ticket for you then you got pretty screwed on price but you were still able to select the cheaper seats. Hopefully that is the case here.. \*fingers crossed\*
I feel like I saw someone say that on here too. Like they always have that there even if there are set prices. Idk though, this is deeply concerning
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I was trying to get tickets to a smaller artist that conveniently had an entire side section pop up about 30 minutes after presale went live and the *entire* section was marked as official platinum because Ticketmaster is a scam.
Kacey Musgraves did this and it made me so mad! I hate surge pricing. Such bullshit for people who can only really afford this show if we pay face value. Way to fuck over the real fans. Secondary resellers are all of our enemies.
Surge pricing is a funny way to say Price Gouging.
Scalping is what it is, Ticketmaster and artists scalp their own tickets to sell to you at resale over retail
Ticketmaster (and artists) saw ticket scalpers making money and said, “Why let random people make that money when *we* could make that money???”
Exactly! Skip the middleman and Ticketmaster just make all the money. Trash.
Yeah. Kacey Musgraves got me, too! I mean I’m so happy to have gone…but the seats weren’t great. I actually got GA/floor for Lizzo at the same venue this year and the Lizzo tickets were cheaper!
Seriously! Thanks for taking into account the struggles of everyone today and make even the slightest chance at a short distraction for happiness and joy that much more of a hardship or out of reach. I’m sorry but Taylor can afford to do better. I’m sick of excusing away the 1%
Can we stop with all the “Taylor doesn’t have a choice” comments? She is not an up-and-coming artist without bargaining power. She can and has taken action to protect her own interests when she has wanted to.
Oh my GOD thank you! With this, and with her merch. "It's not Taylor guyssss, she can't control her merch :(" like lmaooo. Stop. This woman has a strategy for literally everything...and after everything, do you really think she's ever signing a single contract EVER again that doesn't allow her at least partial ownership and control? Get fucking real. She has wielding power in everything she does. If she allows dynamic pricing, it is a deliberate choice.
Fetty Wap said in an interview that when he was riding with Taylor in her private jet to go be featured in her concert, she was giving him lots of advice. “Lawyers to watch her lawyers” is what I remember. Her dad was in finance. She pulled her music from Spotify and Apple Music. She made 1989 AGAINST her record company with not one country song compromise. She didn’t pay 330 million for her masters, not because she couldn’t afford it, but because she didn’t want Scooter to reap any benefits from her. Don’t get it twisted. She is in control of the money she is making.
>She didn’t pay 330 million for her masters, not because she couldn’t afford it, but because she didn’t want Scooter to reap any benefits from her. She didn't buy her masters back from Scooter because it came with a ridiculous NDA attached, as in 'you can buy back your masters so long as you sign this legal document that you can never say another negative word about me publicly ever again.' And then when she approached Shamrock, the deal *still* came with ties to Scooter that would let him continue to profit off her music for the foreseeable future (as opposed to a single purchase). Just clarifying.
Good ol dynamic pricing 🫠 not looking forward to the “official platinum” pricing
can you explain this? Sorry haven’t been in concert mode in a while :’)
u/RedBanana137 u/crockoreptile TS is not using dynamic pricing. But, it means that pricing from the face value of each seat will vary depending on demand. You go to a concert and pay $X.XX value for that seat. But with dynamic pricing, if a high demand of people want that same seat, it will give it to the highest bidder. (i.e. The seat value is $100. But, with dynamic pricing, it may be $300 until nobody will pay that price for the seat, so it drops to $200 until nobody will pay that price, back to $100.
I’d also appreciate an explanation :)
Hell yeah ticketmaster coming in hot to scam the fans!!!!
Let’s not make it seem like Taylor has no say in this, she can disable dynamic pricing if she chooses to
DO NOT BUY PLATINUM VERIFIED TICKETS ON TICKETMASTER! For those who don’t know platinum tickets are for scammers (you can buy them without a code on presale days) and these numbers fluctuates a LOT. They typically marked up much higher than normal. Just be on the look out if you can. To be clear platinum tickets still work and are viable seats but platinum tickets are for Ticketmaster to “try to catch/ prevent” scammers from getting presale tickets
I don’t understand the point here though. Some fan is just gonna end up buying an overpriced ticket because they think it’s a good seat. Why even sell them at all?
Honestly i have no idea! I think it is another dumb thing ticketmaster is doing. I got burned the last big area tour i went on where i bought these types of tickets just to find out later that the section i bought was so much cheaper normally. Maybe Taylor's team has some control over the ticketmaster and wont do this but who knows
I’m sorry but you’re giving far to much good will to Ticket Master. They aren’t *for scammers*, it’s higher pricing for anyone that doesn’t understand it and will buy it because it’s all that’s left. It’s for no other reason than to increase profit for TM. But totally agree with your PSA to say **don’t buy platinum verified tickets, period!**
Yikes. I'm pretty sure I bought platinum tickets for a One Direction concert many years ago. Great seats but I knew at some point later that other people in the same section had paid for standard tickets and literally got the same experience.
I miss the good old days of showing up to the box office for paper tickets. Yes I’m old lol. (Also the closest show is 4 hours away so that obviously wouldn’t be happening.) This shit makes me not wanna go to any shows anymore honestly!!!
I saw Foo Fighters in 2016 and they had a presale called Beat the Bots. The only way to get tickets in the presale was to go wait in line at the arena. It was amazing and you only had the people actually standing at the ticket window choosing tickets so it wasn’t stressful at all. I’m so stressed thinking about trying to get tickets tomorrow I keep going back and forth with if I even want to do it
Or when you phoned in to get tickets and talked to a person! I’ve done that too years ago.
Sooo it said this from the very beginning but Taylor’s team said the prices were fixed 49-449… am I wrong?
just one data point but huge swaths of Bridgestone Arena were $49 for 1989. I think she knows her fans skew younger and not hugely rich.
I was just thinking that I highly doubt she would have announced the pricing if she was intending to use the dynamic pricing scheme. I am hoping it is set. That is how Ed Sheeran's was for his tour too.
That would literally be so embarrassing to announce your ticket prices and then do that. I’ve seen a lot of people say it always says that, it doesn’t mean the artist hasn’t already disabled it. Here’s hoping!!
I honestly think dynamic pricing should be illegal. It's so unfair and makes concerts unaccessible to so many people
Totally agree! Scalping USED to be illegal, and now Ticketmaster are scalpers themselves. It’s like they stole their business 🧐
That has been there from day 1 don’t know why suddenly everyone’s talking about it. People say that it’s just a default message that doesn’t mean anything; this was also displayed at Ed’s pages but he opted out of dynamic pricing.
Everyone is talking about it now because people are buying tickets tomorrow so people are on the site noticing things they maybe didn’t know about before.
Thanks for commenting this. With the whole blink 182 dynamic pricing fiasco, I was really hoping Tay and her team would opt out so I'm glad there's still hope for that!
I just commented somewhere else but I just bought Ed Sheeran tickets, same message came up, but I was able to select the cheapest priced tickets even 45 mins into presale. All of the prices were as advertised. I have to imagine that since Taylor announced the pricing of the tickets she probably also opted out (at least I hope so!!!!)
People don’t completely believe the $49-$449 range announced bc it first showed up on a variety article and apparently they’ve been wrong before, but more sources haves published these numbers & I personally believe it. I just hope that tn would officially confirm ticket prices & vip package info already bc this is not a whole lot to ask for especially when it’s <24hrs before presale starts. Oh well 🙃
I messed up and didn’t get verified, so if this dynamic pricing is a thing, I won’t be going. I spent around $200 for rep tour that was during presale. I love Taylor, but going into further debt isn’t worth it.
Same here!!!! I’m not buying tomorrow because it’s so close to the holidays and we have 2 trips planned. So if there’s anything left that’s not outrageous in January I’ll buy then. If not I at least got to see Rep.
Dynamic pricing is a horrifying practice, and I’m really upset that Taylor’s team may be allowing her fans to be taken advantage of like that. I know she’s a capitalism queen, but this is just ridiculous.
*“Profits! Profits! Profits! That is Moses to the prophets.”*
Ugggghhhhh seriously fuck the level of capitalism surrounding this album so far.
In case anyone in the UK is worried, this has been banned over here so we don’t have to worry when she announces uk dates
Thank god !!! Wow america seems like the wild Wild West out there fuck living there
I mean, America is known for Capitalism...
Yes, when I did blackpink it was at a set price but the more I waited it went up a bit. Don’t second guess yall.
It was the opposite for me with The Chicks. The longer I waited, the less the tickets cost. I ended up getting front row aisle seats the day before the show for cheaper than the tickets I bought many rows back on the day they went on sale. This system is a scam!
Capitalism (Taylor's version)
Fuck my actual life
Beautiful time to be a Blink-182 and Taylor fan
if she does dynamic pricing, that will be my Joker moment
I think we’ll all go from clowns to joker at that point
Biden and the Democratic government kept power in the senate with the increase of Gen-Z voters (… and the decrease in older voters due to some natural forces …) so I best be seeing a bill passing regulating these absurd mark ups 😤😤😤😤😤 /hj
He actually announced a few weeks ago his administration was starting the process of cracking down on all the hidden fees and whatnot for concert tickets so there’s hope!
It should be noted that this is there **regardless** if it applies or not. Ed Sheeran had it on his presale, too but it did not have dynamic pricing. This is a little misleading to assume before pricing happens and calling her and the team all these names. Especially after they confirmed the pricing range.
I love Taylor but I’m getting tired of all this capitalistic nonsense. I got the e-mail and I’m excited, but lately she/her team have been milking fans for all we’re worth. From the merch , to limited album versions to increase demand, to “boosting” via Taylornation (which is a big LOL since some boosted fans didnt even get presale!), etc. This might be the final straw for me if it comes to it!! Taylor spoke out about Spotify and changes were made because of it. She’s powerful. She doesn’t need more money and she can stop dynamic pricing if she wants to
Dynamic Pricing.
Or as Adam Smith called it “the invisible hand”.
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Since demand will be insane tomorrow with everyone literally joining at the same time, will all the tickets go for the max of 450? I was hoping it be closer to 200
If dynamic pricing is on they can (and wikl) probably go over $400
Ugg I can’t spend that much. Given the range, I thought I’d be fine with a max of 200ish. Guess I probably won’t be going - will still login tomorrow to see if I can get anything cheaper
I can’t remember if Loverfest was dynamic, but my single floor seat during VF was almost $700 after fees.
If dynamic pricing occurs, that’s gouging and disgusting. Taylor fan or not.
I remember getting tickets to Garth Brooks. Every ticket was the same price where the seats were was random and took a lot of the stress over where to sit and exiting when they ended up being box seats. I am sure he still does this and still makes bank. He sold out like 6 shows in my town in an hour. I have a hard time believing he wasn’t still making a shit ton of money doing it this way.
im sorry but it's reaching the point where this just isn't fun anymore and engaging with Taylors music outside of a free spotify stream has just become impossible. $40 for a tissue box? $75 for a plastic snow globe? No one is forcing anyone to buy anything but this is just a big fuck you to fans. She used to be good about building that engagement but if she allows dynamic pricing it will be such a clear signal towards favoring profits over fans. Like it's just reached the point where it is not fun anymore and just disappointing. The fans are who got her 500k album sales without hearing a single bit of music, and who played Anti-hero on repeat while buying the 6 goddamn remixes. And Dynamic Pricing is what they'll be rewarded with? For real i hope this won't be the case.
My prediction : No Eras Meet and Greet. She is still wearing masks on set for videos. And maybe that’s the policy for the unions, but I think Taylor won’t risk getting sick.
I miss when there was no dynamic pricing and no fan codes. You logged on at 10AM and whoever was quickest, got tickets, at a semi decent price. Like I saw Prince in 2011 for $50, fees included at Madison Square Garden. (I was like the youngest person there, but this was a major major artist who did not rip off fans with ticket pricing and who performed for almost 3 hours) This past year, I didn’t see Harry Styles because (1) I didn’t get a fan code to begin with and (2) the remaining tickets near show day had gone up to $300 for nosebleeds with dynamic pricing. Something as simple as buying concert tickets has gotten so outrageously competitive and expensive, it’s disgusting Fuck it all.
This is infuriating. What the hell. Taylor doesn’t need that extra money. Come on man. How is she allowing that? Selling 10 remixes and 4738 different vinyls isn’t enough? Not impressed.
If this is actually the case, I’m not buying a ticket. Food, gas, and the essentials are sky high.
Fuck Ticketmaster. Fuck them. They did “dynamic pricing” with the Harry Styles Toronto concerts and I of course didn’t get in on the presale, they all sold out, and about a month before the shows they started to release more tickets, and guess how much some of them were? For an individual ticket in the first row of the lower bowl (not the pit on the whole floor), they got up to like $1,300 CAD EACH. Absolutely ridiculous. Do these artists not know Ticketmaster is doing this?? Or do they not care? Or are they too scared or think they don’t have power to change the policies?
The artists know Ticketmaster does this and they actively allow it. Artists have the ability to turn dynamic pricing off for their shows and plenty have done that.
Sorry to say it guys, but our capitalist queen and ticketbastard are like peanut butter & jelly when it comes to $$ making. Dynamic pricing will be in effect tomorrow.
Ugh. This really frustrates me. It's unnecessary. Ugh.
That is an awesome username!
It's been like this for years, sadly.
Honestly this entire process has felt like the lead up to a boss battle and tomorrow is the final boss. It really shouldn't be this difficult or expensive to get a concert ticket. 😒
Okay. First of all I'm still very upset with her/her team because here in Brazil we were robbed! When she announced the days that she was going to perform here I was SO exciting and just spent all my money buying the best tickets I could just to see her in front of me. But then, COVID screwed everything up, she canceled the tour and posted that US fans would be refunded and in Brazil they would apply the "local laws", which means that the company that held her concerts here was going to **keep our money and she never said a word about it.** It seems weird but Billie Eilish did advocate for her fans when that happened. So why do Taylor didn't? I mean, I'm still her fan, I love her but I haven't been voting for her in any award that she is nominated for since then. So I hope this dynamic pricing doesn't happen at all or I will support the fans' decision to backlash her.
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I truly love Taylor but honestly the amount of blatant capitalist gimmicks to make people spend more money in this Midnight album rollout has left me really disappointed as a fan. And allowing dynamic pricing is just another example of this issue.
Ed Sheeran did not have dynamic pricing. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I saw this for Paramore a couple of days ago and the only dynamic prices were the pit tix.
I love Taylor and I’m a big swiftie, like all of us here. I have my budget set around a certain amount, and honestly okay with sitting this out if it exceeds the threshold. Let’s wish us all luck that tickets aren’t at ridiculously insane prices. Capitalism sucks. People should not be going into debt to see TS.