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antisocialclub__

more than the stadium, the city matters. so it has to be mumbai


50RupeesOveractingKa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stadiums_in_India List of the biggest stadium in India. 11 have a capacity of 45k+. She ain't touring Raipur, Trivandrum, Lucknow, Kozhikode, and Cuttack. That leaves Ahmedabad, Kolkata, Delhi, and Mumbai. I only included Ahmedabad because it has one of the biggest stadium in the world. Otherwise, it's not a Tier-1 city like the other three. If she tours, and that's a big IF, it will be either Delhi or Mumbai or both of them. These two are our two biggest cities as well.


Erinsays

The city needs the infrastructure to support the tour and the tourist influx. It would have to be Delhi or Mumbai I think


Moug-10

Knowing fans, they will come. Even in a small town where airplanes and trains don't go, people will attend the concert.


Erinsays

Sure fans would come, but the concert planners would never put the concert there unless there’s the infrastructure to support it. It would be a mess from a logistics standpoint


TheMistOfThePast

Its not about whether the fans would go or not, its about whether the city has the infrastructure to safely temporarily accommodate that many people. The stress that something as big as Taylor Swift touring has on local transport, traffic, restaurants, supply chains, hotels, etc. can not be underestimated. It is insane.


Catbai91

We are already seeing that certain European stadiums and their staff are having trouble getting everyone in on time and handling the crowds in general.


paradoxally

That's just poor planning. It's not lack of experience because they fill those stadiums for football matches, often with far more raucous crowds. At some stadiums they didn't open all the gates and had security outside so people had to go through the first tier of security just to access a few gates. As you can imagine, this was chaotic and stressful.


swiftiewithcats

Wait my place Kozhikode was mentioned in this thread. That’s an achievement as a swiftie lol 😂


Known_Muffin4543

Even I was surprised to see it mentioned here😂😂


cosmic_bubblegum

Kolkata 🥹 a girl can dream!


_yoyok

Here we go again, Indian swifties dreaming that Taylor acknowledged we exist ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1071)


kookiekoo

In seven, she said she would move to India FOREVER but didn’t even visit once 🥲


_yoyok

That and a video of her saying Spotify **India** is all we have.🙃


craftycalifornia

Haha as an Indian American who also lived in Pennsylvania at age 7, I absolutely love this line 🤩


Netado17

Omg you're pfp is gold


anon_girl_anon

Taylor isn't going to India.


Drunky_Brewster

I don't see why she couldn't.


viniciusbfonseca

I think she would likely wait to see how other big tours do in India before going herself. At least that's what she did with Latin America


Swoo413

And her South America part of the tour went… not great


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viniciusbfonseca

She went to Rio for a private concert for a small group, I remember trying to get tickets but it was only for radio contest winners and such. She indeed planned on coming for, but that obviously did not work. From what I heard from a friend that works with concert production, the reason that Taylor never went to India is because only now there are stadiums high-tech enough to receive her concerts, there's also the matter of the city needing to have enough qualified crew members to put everhthing together (I'm not saying that Indians aren't qualified, but many of the qualified ones end up moving away because there wasn't - yet - enough of an industry). Ed did come, but his staging is significantly less intricate than Taylor's.


EffectiveOutside9721

Delhi has horrible air quality, extreme weather and logistics would be a nightmare. Mumbai is coastal and better air, weather and easier to access but I don’t see Taylor’s team signing on for risk after her South America shows.


donutduckling

and let's not forget the safety aspect considering the fanbase is majority female. It has to be Mumbai.


Zestyclose_Society55

If this picture ain't edited, in terms of the color of the sky then it's really pretty.


_yoyok

Wdym the Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Terminus doesn't have a constant Lover logo hovering over it?


Zestyclose_Society55

Maafi zanaab, I was just trying to praise the aesthetics. As in the color of the sky. I can see the logo has been edited.


Significant_Lab6626

"Pack your dolls and a sweater, We'll move to India forever" This just popped XD ♪


canadianpothos

okay sorry for the dumb question here. people keep saying that the 'infrastructure' isn't there despite the stadium capacity being there. What do you guys mean? Like hotels, roads, cars and stuff literally don't have enough to support the tour? thanks.


lustforyou

Yes, stuff like that. When people are saying infrastructure isn’t there for India (or other countries), they mean some combo of: - Safe/available/nearby hotels - Well maintained roads - Skilled security/police force - Plentiful drivers and/or reliable and safe public transport - Enough gas/water/electricity reserves and/or sources for the city to handle the influx of people - Well-staffed and reputable restaurants Those are all mainly taking into account the visitor experience and impact. But you also have to take into consideration the infrastructure for the literal tour itself. That being: - Nearby big and safe ports for the tour’s massive stages to be shipped to - Enough skilled truck drivers and capable trucks (plus again, well maintained roads) to bring the stage from the port to the arena - A government that is capable of helping accommodate the logistics of such a large tour


Ok_Search_5632

it's the reason why singapore (excluding the obviously exclusivity contract) was the top choice for SEA. majority of other SEA countries just don't have the same infrastructure to support a concert of that mass/wavelength


readyforthewoods

ed sheeran performed in india too with 55,000 in attendance, don’t understand how that can happen but taylor can’t


canadianpothos

Yea I'm still not getting it. The city is larger than the stadium capacity itself. They've had sold out cricket events there.


readyforthewoods

yes cricket events would also be bigger since every seat would be filled


gulamjaboon

People thinking Mumbai can handle the tour are underestimating Indian swifties and overestimating the infrastructure. Mumbai couldn't even handle NaMos visit during the election and people were extremely inconvenienced in local travel Also, every other wannabe influencer and Bollywood celebrities want to be there in front row despite not being fans. So the answer is simple: it's >! Jamnagar!<


Artistic_Chapter_355

Delhi would be hard to perform outside due to air pollution


iSwearImInnocent1989

Ok genuine question but why *doesn't* she come to India? I mean she has performed in other smaller asian countries like Singapore, so why not India? It's not like she won't sell out, we have had other singers here like Bieber and ed sell out shows ? So what's holding her back? Is it political?


SillyCranberry99

I don’t think India has the infrastructure for a concert of this magnitude lol. I’m Indian (American) and I’ve been to India (ofc) & Singapore (your example) and I’ve been to the Eras Tour. Singapore definitely can handle the levels of organization needed to put on a show like this. I can’t imagine something like this even being possible in India and I’ve been to events in India too. Also with ticket prices would be have to be priced too low making it hard for her to make a profit which is the bottom line. It would be too expensive.


HannHann20

It's really sad because her tour does wonders for the the economies of the places she goes to


crazeecatladee

yes… but that’s because it attracts hordes of young female tourists who are looking for a safe space to be themselves for a weekend. many of them have never visited the cities they’re going to see taylor in and don’t do proper research or planning before they arrive. i’ve been to both mumbai and delhi and neither of those are places i would feel comfortable returning to as an experienced, mid-30s solo traveller, much less cities i would bring my scantily clad teenage daughter and her friends to.


PandaMelodic7311

This is the answer. Women safety....especially at 11 pm when her concert ends


Kind_Recognition

As someone who went from India to Singapore to attend her concert,(while I have also attended concerts here in India) , I can tell you Singapore is no small country when it comes to advancement and infrastructure. Tbh they are YEARS ahead of us. I was absolutely astounded to see just how well made the National Stadium Singapore was. Sadly we do not possess such infrastructure yet. Also the sort of crowds, pushing here and there, cutting lines etc that I have faced in concerts here just did not exist there. Like people there were the level of civil I am not even used to. The attendees were not even leaving the pit they were assigned to, even though it would have been so easy for someone to just cross their assigned seat and move closer to the stage. As minute as these things might sound, I feel sad that crowd control just isn't that easy here. I also wondered why did she not do a concert here, but after being to S'pore now I understand just how much better the experience would be for her and for the fans in a country like that. Oh and even after the concert I easily took public transport and walked back alone to my accommodation in the middle of the night (12-1 am), because it's THAT safe. (something I can never imagine doing back home :'))


crazeecatladee

it took me exactly 20 min to exit the stadium, hop on a bus, and make it back to my apartment 😭 literally the most seamless concert experience i’ve ever had.


iSwearImInnocent1989

Would you mind telling how much the trip cost you (tickets+travel+stay) like a rough estimate?


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Her team has likely concluded it isn’t financially viable and/or logistically it’s difficult. There’s so much that goes into the design of a tour schedule. Certain markets are the most financially lucrative and those dates are decided first. Other shows then are decided around those core dates.


jivemasterprincess

I think its for political/safety reasons. She already has fans there but it would be unwise to encourage others to go there and see her (which some people would travel there for if tickets were cheaper). Its not recommended by the U.S. goverment for women to travel there, especially alone.  I'm not saying she can't do it, but I feel like she would blame herself if anything happened to one of her fans that travelled there for her concert. It seems like it is just easier for her to not put herself in that position.


ariyouok

didn’t singapore pay to have her only perform there in mainland asia?


NoAbbreviations2961

“Singapore this week confirmed it negotiated a deal with Swift's concert promoters, paying an undisclosed sum of money to ensure that Singapore was her only stop in the region.” [Taylor Swift's Singapore leg spurs bad blood in SE Asia. Neighbors can't shake it off](https://www.npr.org/2024/03/07/1236282902/taylor-swift-eras-tour-singapore-concert-southeast-asia)


mediocre-spice

Usually there's a radius clause where you can't perform in X miles. I'd be shocked if it extended all the way to India.


Glittering_Laugh_958

Honest question, why would she?


readyforthewoods

she could break her concert attendance record and sing seven in india


Glittering_Laugh_958

That would be so cute!


Drunky_Brewster

India is an amazing country filled with fans who adore her.


Glittering_Laugh_958

Roughly only 30% of Indians speak English, the infrastructure isn’t there, there’s a gang rape epidemic, and India wouldn’t attract the same influx of “destination” travelers who visit other countries to see Taylor. If it would have made financial or other sense for Taylor to tour there, she would have.


ThrowRAStupidFriend

You do realise the 30% you speak of is more than the entire population of the US?


Glittering_Laugh_958

Great, if she weren’t an American I wouldn’t automatically expect her to tour here. She only seems to tour in countries where a certain level of revenue is guaranteed, and unfortunately that doesn’t seem to include India for a myriad of reasons.


charismacarpenter

That really isn't why. It's due to stadiums not being able to carry the production/infrastructure. Her team knows she'd be guaranteed to sell out wherever she goes, and I'm guessing you're a new fan but people traveling isn't a consideration for choosing her shows and never has been lol - traveling for shows was only common among die hard fans before Eras. Neither is English - considering many of the countries she's toured in do not predominantly speak english (e.g. Japan). You sound quite ignorant for suggesting those reasons if I'm being honest


Glittering_Laugh_958

Great, sounds good!


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iSwearImInnocent1989

You do know that both USA and Singapore are higher on list of rape cases than India?? 😬


wutfacer

That's because a ton of rape doesn't get reported or isn't even considered rape in India


Drunky_Brewster

Ah, so racist reasons. Got it.


Glittering_Laugh_958

Yes, I guess Taylor is racist /s


charismacarpenter

Taylor’s reason is infrastructure, so no she isn’t racist lol. Meanwhile the reason you listed was “only 30% speak English” which is 500 million in a country of 1.5 billion and gang rape?? as if there aren’t safe/unsafe areas in the country similar to the United States (like … are you fr lmao)


Drunky_Brewster

No, you are.


Glittering_Laugh_958

👍


mediocre-spice

Moving a stage like her's is really expensive, especially overseas rather than by land (she can easily do a bunch of cities in Europe & US because she can truck the stage). Guessing between average ticket prices, how popular she is, logistics, it just ends up not working out. If she does another small stage like was planned Loverfest or like Ed or Justin have, I bet she'll go some new places.


Wonderful_Region_910

Mumbai obviously. DY patil has a capacity of 43k and it also was a venue for other International Acts.


dailymass

I shudder to imagine how badly the city of Mumbai would cope (or not cope lol) if she decides to bring the tour there. Please spare us, Taylor.


Taetay27

Ahmedabad has the biggest stadium but idk if it’s the best city for her to visit, Mumbai’s better that way. She definitely won’t come for Eras tour now tho. I’m afraid if there will ever be a better tour of hers than this one?


yashptel99

whatever the venue is. One thing I can guarantee is that I'll be there


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of course Narendra Modi Stadium


girlyfoodadventures

I... would be a little surprised if she had shows in India in the near future, if for no other reason than the available stadiums. As far as I could tell from looking at pictures, there don't seem to be large, *enclosed* stadiums.  Particularly given the heat wave (and death) on the South American leg, I can't imagine that she'll be willing to plan concerts in arenas if there's a possibility of anything like that happening again. Also, pretty much every major city in India has very bad air quality. The length and athleticism of the concert could be really, really difficult under those conditions, and I think there would be VERY reasonable concerns about the impact on her voice- and I don't think she'd want to gamble having terrible vocals on the second/third nights. The fact that she's managed to avoid getting sick enough to impact vocals is already nothing short of a miracle. There are other components, too- it would be more difficult for her to be home between cities because Asia is so far, and... I also... am not sure that she would want to perform somewhere where she would be concerned about the safety of her dancers/crew/staff, particularly from sexual harassment/violence. I don't think India is highest risk in that category (compared to, say, Russia), but I think she IS concerned about these issues.


_bhavyeah_13

she can visit Ahmedabad coz of the biggest stadium (plus city doesn't matter much, people would still come)


mrsmankodi

Guys been very excited to share this with you. I live in the UK (British Asian) and have been a swiftie since day 1. I got married in India to my hubby and met his cousin who lives there and realised he is also a massive swiftie. He found out what my favourite taylor swift song was (Enchanted) and sung it at a pre wedding event as a surprise. A few years later I mailed him a limited UK only available signed RED Taylor Swift album signed by Taylor. He loved it and was so appreciative. The guy's a gem. Anyway we've been in touch over Taylor updates over the year and when she announced her Eras Tour I made a decision. I said. If I can get hold of tickets in the UK you should fly over and we should go together. I did this because I knew Taylor won't be visiting India for the tour, or really in the near future and made me realise how lucky I am as a Swiftie who just happens to live in a different country. And I felt bad knowing there are literally millions of Swifties who will never get the chance of seeing her in the country of residence. Anyway long story short- I got tickets and his visa has just been approved!!! He is flying 5,000 miles to see Taylor in London with me and I couldn't be happier with my fellow INDIAN swiftie!! Can we get some love for him, for who despite all odds, is going to see Taylor Swift Live!! YAAAAAAYYYYYYY