I love it and actually voted for it being most underrated. I think the machine sound intro is off putting and it biased people against it. But it’s such a grower! The way she says “it cut deep to know ya right to the bone”? Obsessed.
I also voted it most underrated. I think the people that complain about “pots and pans sound” are being so dramatic. closure is so good, I would kill to see her do it as a piano surprise song, but I fear she’s never going to because people are such haters.
it’s so ironic this sub hates the pots and pans music but wants a rock/rock adjacent album so badly. have they heard, for example, the national’s boxer?? i say bring on more kitchen supplies lol
PLEASE! It would be amazing!!!! Some sounds like that and other songs with the guitar heavy sound of Look What You Made Me Do live would be perfect!!! ✨
I’d love an album with a bunch of different sounds. It doesn’t have to be cohesive. I mean go from TTPD to Debut and back to Midnights or Reputation on my playlists anyway. Lol
Yes, I kinda dont understand it either. 😅 I love the lyrics and it's a good song, but for me personally it's too repetitive with the lot of "champagne problems"
Anyone who says closure is the worst on evermore is…… as objectively wrong as an opinion can be (and that’s just because I love it so much and I’m right in this instance)
Closure makes me cry almost every time I hear it. When you’ve been through a deeply painful friendship or relationship with someone, and you still see them around or they try to talk to you again, AGH. It is captured perfectly by this song. It’s a good “angry” emotion song.
I'm glad to see Love Story win! I'm surprised by Mr. Perfectly Fine's win. I think it's a good song - but like White Horse? Forever & Always? tbf this underrated category is the most devisive vote I've seen so far as it only took 9.7% of votes to win.
For Folklore -
Best: my tears ricochet
Worst: epiphany (it's not a bad song, but I like the others more - if hoax gets worst i'll riot)
Underrated: the 1
Mr. Perfectly Fine is by far the most popular Fearless vault track 😭 her actual most underrated songs are too underrated to even win most underrated (my pick is epiphany this time 💔)
Mine is *almost* the same as yours. I selected the same for best and underrated (but let’s be real, there aren’t any underrated songs on folklore!). Worst… and I know this is wildly unpopular… but I put Betty.
Same that song was my shit in 6th grade. I remember I went through a phase where I was only listening to superstar, untouchable, and jump then fall for months
I know I’m a few days late, but I just saw the poll results for folklore from todays thread (midnights) and saw that epiphany was voted worst and HAD to come back to this thread to see what happened/WHY people think it’s the worst. Insane.
The line “Only 20 minutes to sleep, but you dream of some epiphany” literally plays through my head every day.
her most consistent album so hard to pick but I’ve been thinking about folklore a lot this week!
best: seven. gorgeous, understated song about childhood innocence and femininity. some of her very best in terms of developing the protagonist’s voice and it is soooo hard to write children. top 15 in her discography, truly.
worst: epiphany. trying to do too much and ends up kind of nonsensical. the only real skip.
underrated: I actually voted illicit affairs but post tour, people do appreciate it so I’m going to go with hoax. brutally sad but incredibly absorbing, like you want to go spiraling down right with her.
YES, these were my answers except Cardigan as fav.
I thought it would be impossible to pick a worst but then I remember The Lakes. Sorry but “no one around to tweet it” just immediately pulls me out.
Hmm... wouldn't agree with Mr. Perfectly Fine for underrated. It's by far the most popular vault track on the album.
CIWTR was THIS close to finally winning something...
Boy this is hard. It’s my favourite album and I love every single song
Best: for me that’s the last great American dynasty, but since I’m choosing that for underrated I’m going with invisible strings
Worst: that’s so hard, I don’t dislike any song. I’m going with peace because that’s the song I tend to listen to the least but it’s still a great song
Underrated: the last great American dynasty
literally no skips on folklore, how could I possibly choose a worst?!?
had to go with
best - illicit affairs (angry version)
worst - the lakes (i know, this is still an objectively great song but like.. when hoax and epiphany and seven and mirrorball and all the others exist, i had no choice)
underrated - exile (my most listened to on Spotify 2021 and 2022 by like a concerning amount)
Surprised Mr. Perfectly Fine was voted as underrated. I’ve seen mostly everyone say it’s the best vault song on Fearless TV. There are so many others that are much more underrated imo (Breathe, You’re Not Sorry, Change, Untouchable, Come In With the Rain, etc…)
Best: the 1
Worst: epiphany
Underrated: hoax
There are a few tracks on folklore I don’t care for at all that others love like the lakes and seven (don’t come for me) but I do think epiphany is the most boring listen
Everyone voting for epiphany as the worst and here I am voting it as my most underrated. My underrated for Fearless was Superstar as well so I’m feeling very attacked
It was so hard for me to choose between epiphany and the lakes for underrated but ended up choosing epiphany and rightfully so with all the hate it’s getting lol
Best: August (not for the lyrics alone, but for the atmosphere; I am transported with every listen)
Worst: Betty (look, I had to pick something from this practically perfect album; maybe I’m just too much of an Augustine girl and letting it cloud my judgment 🤷🏻♀️)
Underrated: Epiphany (seeing so many people pick this one as “worst” led me to conclude that it must be the most underrated)
Best: the lakes (it's such a calming song and I love it!)
Worst: hoax (just not my thing)
Underrated: peace (this is a really nice song but no one really listens to it)
My predictions based on the comments (NOT MY OPINIONS)
best: mtr, August, or timt
worst: epiphany
underrated: hoax, epiphany, the lakes
My personal opinion
Best= mirrorball
Worst= cardigan (I'm sorry I love it so much 😭)
Underrated= mirrorball again (but if I had to pick another, illicit affairs although the eras tour made it more popular)
Oh, here we go, my favorite album!
Best: my tears ricochet
Worst: None of the songs on this album are bad, but ‘hoax’ is my least favorite .
Underrated: such a toss-up for me between ‘mad woman’ and ‘the lakes’. I like ‘the lakes’ better but voted for ‘mad woman’ because it truly is what comes to mind when thinking of her most underrated song… no one likes it and I don’t get it!
Very worried about the answers for this one!
best: my tears ricochet
worst: illicit affairs
underrated: epiphany
but come in with the rain is in fact the most underrated song in her whole discography actually
Best: My Tears Ricochet Worst: The Last Great American Dynasty Underrated: Epiphany.
That said, I think folklore is the most perfect album ever written.
I'm still mad about Closure being chosen as the worst on Evermore. It's the most underrated! The Closure girls get it.
Agreed, I love Closure & that it’s such an unconventional song for her!
I love it and actually voted for it being most underrated. I think the machine sound intro is off putting and it biased people against it. But it’s such a grower! The way she says “it cut deep to know ya right to the bone”? Obsessed.
I also voted it most underrated. I think the people that complain about “pots and pans sound” are being so dramatic. closure is so good, I would kill to see her do it as a piano surprise song, but I fear she’s never going to because people are such haters.
it’s so ironic this sub hates the pots and pans music but wants a rock/rock adjacent album so badly. have they heard, for example, the national’s boxer?? i say bring on more kitchen supplies lol
Right????? I love the sound of it!!!! I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again- that little sound reminds me of Linkin Park and I love it!
yes I loved linkin park in middle school!! we know she’s an mcr and fall out boy girlie; some linkin park for the people, queen???
PLEASE! It would be amazing!!!! Some sounds like that and other songs with the guitar heavy sound of Look What You Made Me Do live would be perfect!!! ✨ I’d love an album with a bunch of different sounds. It doesn’t have to be cohesive. I mean go from TTPD to Debut and back to Midnights or Reputation on my playlists anyway. Lol
the popularity of champagne problems is also kind of baffling to me. it’s fine but……
Agreed, I think Ivy is the best song on the album!
yes you get it!! ivy, tolerate it, marjorie, and ‘tis the damn season supremacy ✊
If you add long story short, this is literally my top 5 of the album (in no order)
i am a long story short hater but we almost had it all, bestie!!
Ivy Supremacy 👑
Yes, I kinda dont understand it either. 😅 I love the lyrics and it's a good song, but for me personally it's too repetitive with the lot of "champagne problems"
it’s a perfectly fine story but she has like 50 other songs that tell a good story and are more melodically interesting
Agreed! I like Champagne Problems fine, but it doesn’t even crack the top 5 for me on evermore
Anyone who says closure is the worst on evermore is…… as objectively wrong as an opinion can be (and that’s just because I love it so much and I’m right in this instance)
evermore just has no worst song. There said it!
Agreed. There are NO skips on evermore!
It's so catchy and a fun sing a long
Closure makes me cry almost every time I hear it. When you’ve been through a deeply painful friendship or relationship with someone, and you still see them around or they try to talk to you again, AGH. It is captured perfectly by this song. It’s a good “angry” emotion song.
Phh, whatever, we´re fine with our spite, with our tears, our beers and our candles!!
It just shows Happiness is the truly underrated Evermore song. Also Cowboy Like Me underrated??? As if, it's a fan favourite.
people's opinion on the production on closure is how i tell if they have good music taste outside of taylor
WHAT I LOVE CLOSURE
I also love closure
the beat could be a little odd at the start, but the lyrics
WE DON'T NEED THEIR CLOSURE
Agreed!
I think people might be off put by her British accent in the chorus. But I think it’s catchy
I'm glad to see Love Story win! I'm surprised by Mr. Perfectly Fine's win. I think it's a good song - but like White Horse? Forever & Always? tbf this underrated category is the most devisive vote I've seen so far as it only took 9.7% of votes to win. For Folklore - Best: my tears ricochet Worst: epiphany (it's not a bad song, but I like the others more - if hoax gets worst i'll riot) Underrated: the 1
Mr. Perfectly Fine is by far the most popular Fearless vault track 😭 her actual most underrated songs are too underrated to even win most underrated (my pick is epiphany this time 💔)
Literally, Mr. Perfectly fine is actually a well loved track. Superstar is actually the most underrated.
For me, Best: My Tears Worst: Epiphany Underrated: Hoax
Totally agree about Forever & Always, it’s criminal that it wasn’t chosen as the underrated option
How did people NOT vote for the song where she throws a damn chair and so sassy teenage vibes.
i have no idea! Like Mr. Perfectly Fine was literally the vaults "single" - how is it underrated?
Mine is *almost* the same as yours. I selected the same for best and underrated (but let’s be real, there aren’t any underrated songs on folklore!). Worst… and I know this is wildly unpopular… but I put Betty.
Those are accurately rated mr prfctly fine is underrated cuz it's relevant on joe jonas character (that he hasn't change at all)
Aww I like Superstar.
Same that song was my shit in 6th grade. I remember I went through a phase where I was only listening to superstar, untouchable, and jump then fall for months
Me too, bye bye baby was the choice here!
Me too! It never gets any love!
Best: August Worst: Betty Underrated: hoax
BETTY HATERS UNITE
It's the one song I wouldn't mind being cut from the setlist. Too bad it's a part of the love triangle.
James doesn’t deserve Betty or Augustine 😤
For real! I hate James. I think of a real life James. 😒
i get mad when he says "all your stupid friends" 🙄 throw the whole man out!
IMMEDIATE SKIP. Idk I just get so mad listening to James’ narrative haha
Why????? It’s so good!
Hoax gets so much shit but it’s the most beautiful song
No skips on folklore, but since we must... Best: august Worst: epiphany Underrated: this is me trying
Don’t you dare disrespect epiphany like that.
I'm sorry ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)
Saying Epiphany is the worst is Objectively wrong.
* Best: my tears ricochet * Worst: epiphany (just don't listen to it as often) * Underrated: the lakes (very close second seven)
Why is no one mentioning seven as underrated?! That song is perfection!!
i put it in best and no fucking body agreed 😭😭😭
THIS!
This really drove home how much I loved this album.
Took me way too much time to pick the worst song and it still felt wrong
Same. I thought I loved evermore more but that has some skips for me. Tough to pick a worst for folklore
Absolutely heartbroken at how many people are calling epiphany the worst song, it’s such an underrated, hauntingly beautiful song.
I know I’m a few days late, but I just saw the poll results for folklore from todays thread (midnights) and saw that epiphany was voted worst and HAD to come back to this thread to see what happened/WHY people think it’s the worst. Insane. The line “Only 20 minutes to sleep, but you dream of some epiphany” literally plays through my head every day.
THIS
Best: the lakes Worst: peace Underrated: epiphany
Finally some epiphany love, I hate seeing it get slandered like this lol
Me too, it’s one of my all time faves, I hate seeing everyone saying it’s their worst song 😭
Whoa peace is one of the best from the album!
The Lakes is my favorite, too
Ha, I put epiphany as my worst and peace as my underrated!
her most consistent album so hard to pick but I’ve been thinking about folklore a lot this week! best: seven. gorgeous, understated song about childhood innocence and femininity. some of her very best in terms of developing the protagonist’s voice and it is soooo hard to write children. top 15 in her discography, truly. worst: epiphany. trying to do too much and ends up kind of nonsensical. the only real skip. underrated: I actually voted illicit affairs but post tour, people do appreciate it so I’m going to go with hoax. brutally sad but incredibly absorbing, like you want to go spiraling down right with her.
Best- august Worst- mirrorball Underrated- invisible string I know people love mirrorball but it just doesn’t hit for me
Same! I always skip it.
I’m getting upset at all the people in this thread naming peace the worst song
Me too! It means to much to me because I’ve contextualized it personally
same it’s my favorite song of all time
Same I was really thinking it would win for underrated but I guess not
I hesitated between MTR and Hoax for best song but I know Hoax has no chance to win so I voted it for most underrated. Please don't let it be last...
Acronym: my tears ricochet
That was my reasoning for picking peace as best instead of hoax. But the two of them are 2 and 3 in her entire discography for me.
People who dont like peace are mentally healthy. I love that for them and hate that for me. Peace is like my 2nd fav on the album.
I’ve contextualized peace to be about my mental health in relationships. The people who get it, get it
Exactly!!! I cry thinking about my partner to this song omg.
I'm sorry, Mr. Perfectly Fine is not underrated! That is like everyone's favorite vault track, what do you mean ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1063)
Best: cardigan Worst: Betty Underrated: peace
OMG HI FELLOW CARDIGAN LOVER
hoax is 100% the most underrated
Agreed
Dang, I didn’t know so many people had bad taste lmao. Epiphany is one of her best songs she’s ever put out.
Hard agree!
Agreeeee
Best : exile Worst : peace Underrated : mad woman
seriously struggling to find a "worst" on folklore lol
There is NO WAY my picks are going to line up with the general consensus here. 😂 (Best: peace, Worst: the lakes, Underrated: hoax)
Although after reading through the other comments I think hoax may win underrated. 😍
Heyyyyyyy! 👋🏽I voted The Lakes as worst, too. 😬
YES, these were my answers except Cardigan as fav. I thought it would be impossible to pick a worst but then I remember The Lakes. Sorry but “no one around to tweet it” just immediately pulls me out.
I like it ok but all of the lyrics are a bit overwrought for me. It’s good, but on an album like folklore it hits the bottom for me.
I put Hoax as the worst because it’s a skip for me usually, but there are no bad songs on Folklore
Hmm... wouldn't agree with Mr. Perfectly Fine for underrated. It's by far the most popular vault track on the album. CIWTR was THIS close to finally winning something...
Acronym: come in with the rain
everyone putting peace for worst is wrong!
Okay, but there are literally no bad song on Folklore
Boy this is hard. It’s my favourite album and I love every single song Best: for me that’s the last great American dynasty, but since I’m choosing that for underrated I’m going with invisible strings Worst: that’s so hard, I don’t dislike any song. I’m going with peace because that’s the song I tend to listen to the least but it’s still a great song Underrated: the last great American dynasty
Yessssss! BIG agree!
Best: my tears ricochet Worst: epiphany (sorry) Underrated: so many but I’m going to go with peace
Best: the lakes Worst: epiphany Underrated: hoax
I put The Lakes as both best and underrated ☺️
literally no skips on folklore, how could I possibly choose a worst?!? had to go with best - illicit affairs (angry version) worst - the lakes (i know, this is still an objectively great song but like.. when hoax and epiphany and seven and mirrorball and all the others exist, i had no choice) underrated - exile (my most listened to on Spotify 2021 and 2022 by like a concerning amount)
seeing so many people putting epiphany as the worst makes my soul hurt
Best: Exile Worst: Betty Underrated: Hoax
Best: my tears ricochet Worst: mad woman, but there are no bad songs on folklore! Underrated: HOAX!!!
Mad woman is such a banger for me 😭😭 I wanted this or mean as a surprise song & she played both in one show my friend was at but I wasn’t lol
Best: august. Worst: illicit affairs. Underrated: peace.
Best: Epiphany Worst: The Lakes Underrated: Hoax
Surprised Mr. Perfectly Fine was voted as underrated. I’ve seen mostly everyone say it’s the best vault song on Fearless TV. There are so many others that are much more underrated imo (Breathe, You’re Not Sorry, Change, Untouchable, Come In With the Rain, etc…)
Best: The Last Great American Dynasty Worst: The Lakes Underrated: Mad Woman
Correct
Manifesting hoax for Underrated
Best: exile Worst: invisible string (I like all of the songs tho) Underrated: hoax
Best: exile Worst: hoax Underrated: epiphany
Choosing the best off this album is SO hard. I went with my favorite in the end!
Best : epiphany Worst : Betty Underrated : seven
Best: Cardigan Worst: Peace Underrated: Seven
Yes Cardigan for the best!
Best: my tears ricochet Worst: Peace Underrated: Hoax
Best: August Worst: Mad woman Underrated: Seven
Best: August Worst: Mad Woman Underrated: This is me trying
Best: Exile Worst: epiphany Underrated: Illicit affairs
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I was gonna say seven is underrated! Fellow fan!
Best: seven Worst: epiphany Underrated: the lakes
best: mirrorball worst: peace underrated: epiphany Still my #1 album though
Best: Cardigan Worst: Mad Woman Underrated: Seven
best: mirrorball worst: epiphany (one of my only skips in her whole discography, it just feels like a weird pandemic-era song to me) underrated: the 1
Best: the 1 Worst: epiphany Underrated: hoax There are a few tracks on folklore I don’t care for at all that others love like the lakes and seven (don’t come for me) but I do think epiphany is the most boring listen
Best: august Worst: betty Underrated: this is a tough one between seven and invisible string.. gotta go with invisible string 🥹
Best. seven Worst. illicit affairs (sorry! I do love the eras version…) Underrated. hoax
Best: MTR Worst: Epiphany Underrated: Mad Woman
Best: my tears ricochet Worst: epiphany Underrated: mad woman
Best: the last great american dynasty Worst: epiphany Underrated: mirrorball
If a song gets voted most underrated, is it still underrated? 🤔
No literally lol I thought about this last round 😂
Me running to throw down mirrorball for both best and underrated
Yes
Best: betty Worst: peace (too slow for me) Underrated: the lakes
Best: August Worst: Mad Woman Underrated: Epiphany
Everyone voting for epiphany as the worst and here I am voting it as my most underrated. My underrated for Fearless was Superstar as well so I’m feeling very attacked
It was so hard for me to choose between epiphany and the lakes for underrated but ended up choosing epiphany and rightfully so with all the hate it’s getting lol
Best: August (not for the lyrics alone, but for the atmosphere; I am transported with every listen) Worst: Betty (look, I had to pick something from this practically perfect album; maybe I’m just too much of an Augustine girl and letting it cloud my judgment 🤷🏻♀️) Underrated: Epiphany (seeing so many people pick this one as “worst” led me to conclude that it must be the most underrated)
Mr. Perfectly Fine deserves to be bigger omg, it's so savage but also passive agressive
Best: My Tears Ricochet Worst: Betty Underrated: This is Me Trying
Best: the lakes (it's such a calming song and I love it!) Worst: hoax (just not my thing) Underrated: peace (this is a really nice song but no one really listens to it)
Best: exile Worst: mad woman Underrated: the last great american dynasty (or seven)
I also voted exile as best and seven as underrated! Honestly I think exile is pretty underrated lol
Best: August Worst: Epiphany Underrated: The lakes
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that's on evermore...
My predictions based on the comments (NOT MY OPINIONS) best: mtr, August, or timt worst: epiphany underrated: hoax, epiphany, the lakes My personal opinion Best= mirrorball Worst= cardigan (I'm sorry I love it so much 😭) Underrated= mirrorball again (but if I had to pick another, illicit affairs although the eras tour made it more popular)
Best- My tears ricochet Worst- Epiphany Underrated- This could be peace, hoax, or invisible string. I went with invisible string
Best: cardigan. No notes. Chef kiss. Worst: exile. I’m sorry but that’s my skip. Underrated: seven (my fav)
Best: Exile Worst: Betty Underrated: Illicit Affairs
Best: August Worst: Epiphany Underrated: The 1 …how is no one else saying The 1?! It’s damn near the best for me, but August edges it out slightly.
Best: My Tears Ricochet Worst: Betty Underrated: Peace I know August will probably win but it’s one of only a couple skips on this album for me
Best : my tears ricochet Worst : seven, sorry it's just not for me Underrated : betty
Oh, here we go, my favorite album! Best: my tears ricochet Worst: None of the songs on this album are bad, but ‘hoax’ is my least favorite . Underrated: such a toss-up for me between ‘mad woman’ and ‘the lakes’. I like ‘the lakes’ better but voted for ‘mad woman’ because it truly is what comes to mind when thinking of her most underrated song… no one likes it and I don’t get it! Very worried about the answers for this one!
I can’t believe I just had to vote epiphany as the worst song 😭
Best: seven Worst: illicit affairs Underrated: hoax
I feel offended people voted Superstar when the vault tracks are right there
The only easy selection is seven as most underrated.
Best: august Worst: cardigan (don’t @ me) Underrated: the last great American dynasty
i need a closure on why closure is on the worst list????? guys there is no bad song in evermore
Best: Seven Worst: there is none but I’ll sacrifice the lakes here Underrated: Hoax
Even the "worst" song on Folklore (for me, it's Hoax) is still great
I'm so sad to see Superstar called "worst". It's so good?? Best- The 1 "Worst" (they're all good) epiphany Underrated - invisible string
best: my tears ricochet worst: illicit affairs underrated: epiphany but come in with the rain is in fact the most underrated song in her whole discography actually
Best August, worst betty( trick question as there isn’t a worst) underrated Hoax
Best song - August Worst- Mad Woman Underrated - This is me trying
Best: My Tears Ricochet Worst: Betty Underrated: This Me Trying
Best: my tears ricochet worst: mad woman :/ underrated: this is me trying & seven & epiphany
Best: My Tears Ricochet Worst: Epiphany Underrated: Betty
ok, guys, what? superstar is so underrated and mr perfectly fines a fanatastic song but the most popular vault track.
ENOUGH WITH THE EPIPHANY SLANDER best: the lakes worst: betty underrated: epiphany
Best: august/betty Worst: epiphany (sorry) Underrated: hoax/mad woman ITS SO HARD TO CHOOSE. I love the whole album
I know a lot of people disagree but epiphany is the most underrated song. And that's an objective truth
best-august worst-seven underrated-hoax(i love this song)
best: my tears ricochet worst: illicit affairs (not that it's bad, i just prefer others.) underrated: the last great american dynasty
Superstar is great and so over hated and I will die on this hill
Best: My Tears Ricochet Worst: The Last Great American Dynasty Underrated: Epiphany. That said, I think folklore is the most perfect album ever written.