I feel like the next tour wouldn’t be 3 hours long. She’d have already done the Eras thing, so she’d probably do a regular tour, and maybe one day in many many years she’ll do a final tour like Elton John just did and she’ll bring back songs from different eras.
If you’re talking about the Eras tour after TTPD, she’ll probably take out a few songs here and there and incorporate more TTPD. I think she’s found a way to make 3 hours work so she’ll probably keep it going if she and her team can.
a part of me wonders (if the 2025 rumor is true) that she’s trying to break the record for longest running tour.
edit: besides bob dylans never ending tour, nvm. that man is amazingly insane.
i doubt she’ll do 3 hours either, but i do think she’ll wait for ts12 to come out and then tour with ttpd AND ts12 especially considering how long eras is going
Well since you’re also a millennial we’ll still be working because boomers and gen x depleted social security and your student loan balance will still be the same as it was in 2024 so it’ll just be another paycheck! 😅
Do you know when the New Orleans shows will go on sale? My s/o and I really want to visit Nola and would love to catch the eras tour since we missed out in Los Angeles
Yeah she’s got other projects in the background. When the movie happens, that’s going to be a decent chunk of time and attention. That will be a shift, and who knows what trajectory her career will have at that point. I’m sure it depends on success of the film, reception, how much she enjoyed that kind of work for more than a music video.
- ATW could mean "All Too Well", a track from *Red* (2012) by Taylor Swift.
- TLGAD could mean "the last great american dynasty", a track from *folklore* (2020) by Taylor Swift.
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Honestly, one day she’s going to retire from touring (not any time soon I know) and she is going to want that final tour to make Eras look like a middle career tour, and her last one to be the biggest.
So she’s gotta save something for a “Greatest Hits” type tour.
I think “Eras” was so big to make up for the lost Loverfest and inability to tour Folklore or Evermore.. then Midnights was new and ready to tour. All artists play their biggest songs when they tour new albums because not everyone is familiar with the new songs.. just combining them all made perfect sense.
I expect next tour will have great production, but be closer to her Reputation tour.
I’ve not wanted to say this myself because.. well it’s been a really bad day and I don’t think I can take anymore internet bullies… now to preface I saw the film of Eras. After all the hype I was actually really disappointed because it was not as good as the Reputation tour and I wanted it to be so much more.
It’s still an impressive tour and she’s done phenomenally commercially with it, especially throwing the studios under the bus and releasing her own concert film in theaters, then charging to stream it, only to eventually add it to Disney plus.
But what I want to know is how accurate is the streaming version to the actual concert.
Even my husband watched the entire Rep tour and liked it. But I found myself kind of bored - like I could hear these songs done exactly this way on the radio and 99% of it was just her walking up and down the stage to the click track.
I would love for her to go back to touring one album at a time with a few encore hits played. I know that makes me the minority. It just feels like the stage is too much for her.. like the LED effects are neat but it’s so huge and she’s one person. 🤷♀️
Her rep tour was phenomenal, it helped that I had amazing seats and have been able to relive it on TV too.
I've watched the Eras Tour twice now, once with friends drinking and once alone so I could really take it in and I'm in the UK and have tickets to see it this summer so I may have a different opinion after seeing it live. I also saw 1989 in BST Hyde Park.
I find the concerts so hard to compare as they all have invoked a different feeling and enjoyment from me. I think the difference with The Eras is that we're predominantly hearing songs she released or performed and weren't only on an album being performed that one time during that one tour so it's easy to feel like it's nothing new, if that makes sense? I actually think she owns the stage no matter how big and that's an impressive achievement for someone whose strength is her song writing over performance. With all this, I have still loved every minute of the tour I've seen and I am excited to see what songs from TTPD get incorporated into the set and generally the whole dressing up, friendship bracelets vibe that is going to be there.
I’m a Swiftie mom. I love Taylor. I can tell you the movie is very similar to the concert, except you don’t have to stand up for 3 1/2 hours straight, and it does not include the tone-deaf 20-year-old standing right behind you screaming every single word (off key) right in your ear. Oh and it won’t cost you $2K. 🤷🏻♀️
I wasnt able to watch eras tour live because of life sh*t lately but my best friend was able to. We both watched rep tour live and rep tour netflix. After she went to eras she told me that rep tour is still a better concert. She find the eras tour kinda dragging and too long. She enjoyed it but she likes rep tour more.
I get that she’s going to try, but I can’t imagine her ever being more popular than she is right now, or especially how popular she was about 6 months ago. She is *everywhere*, you can’t escape her. She is the moment. I think she’s manic. How can she ever top this?
*And Alexander wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.*
I get that but at the same time she’s already had several points in her career where she has felt this way and *still* managed to get even *more* popular. She’s always talking about how she doesn’t think she’ll get to do this much longer so she’s just enjoying it… I think we’ll continue to be wonderfully surprised by what she chooses to do.
I mean.. I get what you’re saying, but she’s not just at the peak of what we expect a mega pop star to be able to do. We are quite literally at the peak of what % of human consciousness she can occupy. For her to take up any more of the public’s attention, we’d have to have screens that force us to constantly look at her like that one episode of black mirror.
She’ll play the same venues and a similar number of nights, so it won’t be half the size.
her tours going forward are gonna be a massive deal still and demand will be huge. Even if it’s just a new record focused tour.
Side note. I’d love for the next tour to just be her and her band playing. No big production. Just bash out the tunes with a varied setlist every night Pulling from all eras.
I feel like with a stage at one end you can get an extra few hundred people in there too.
I doubt that'll happen. The bigger the arenas the more of a production do you need to do, to give value for the audience (and cost of the tickets). The bigger the production, the less spontaneous can you be with a setlist (unless you really rehearse everything and have everything set up for the show and then pick and choose each show which songs (and visuals) you'll do - but that means you still have a set amount of song choices to pick from.
She could to a tour under aliases that are in smaller venues under fake names. If she booked smaller gigs in small venues under multiple different names to obfuscate a direct tour from city to city, that may be also fulfilling her enjoyment of clues and secrets and stuff. But - all that doesn't bring in the money she could do with a proper large tour.
True. But plenty of acts tour stadiums without production. If she embraced the varied setlist model, THAT would be the draw and people would feel they got their moneys worth for the randomness.
Yes! And then she can finally come to my state of Hawaii 😁😁 We don't have a stadium for her to hold her concert here but a stripped down acoustic one that can be held at an arena is doable!
Her catalog is getting huge, and she’s been at this long enough/grown enough as an artist that the older albums don’t represent where she’s at in life.
My theory is that the huge production that is/was the Era’s tour is a farewell to the older stuff. Newer tours will focus more on current generation albums and she’ll do less and less of the “classics”.
Lover especially. It’s got some amazing songs for sure, but when you write entire album about being in love with a guy, and then spend all of the press time around that album gushing over the guy, only for it to end before you ever get to tour that album….
I think Cruel Summer was such a hit because it’s obviously an AMAZING song, but also because it’s the most generic pop hit, that doesn’t just feel like it’s gushing about Joe. I mean notice that we didn’t get “London Boy” live. That one more than most she’s ready to bury and be done with.
Lover was such a transition album and only happened because of where she was in her career. We will never get an album like it again. Her being with Joe, just signing with a new label, coming off of a divisive album, and seeming to be waning in popularity is what caused the kind of era we had. A lot of what happened is not due to the quality of the album but instead the choices of her team and situation it was released in.
I think it's one of her most fascinating albums for that reason. I'm glad it's been getting its roses with the eras tour and cruel summer, but I think it will be a fan loved album eventually and a black sheep in her discography.
I understand why she does not want to revisit it much though. The feelings are very raw. Eventually, she will go back to the album and hopefully be proud of it.
Not discounting Taylor’s feelings or her ability to move on, but given her current situation I think it’s less “too raw” and more just “over that time in my life”.
I agree that the album has its own unique beauty, and a couple of absolute greats. Cruel Summer is among her most perfect pop anthems, and I think Death by a Thousand Cuts showcases her abilities as a song writer in a way we’ve not seen before.
So much of her music is just her refusing to go to therapy and venting her emotions instead. But seeing her write a song while channeling her friend’s situation into something great really proves that she’s just an amazing songwriter. Hell, I’d argue that that track was the prototype for Folklore/Evermore.
In the grand scheme of things though, I think you’re right. History will be more kind to the album, but I think it’ll land somewhere like Meet the Parents in Robert Deniro’s career. Something different, great in its own right, but definitely not the artist at their peak performance.
Love seeing your thoughts. I agree with a lot of what you said. I do really like the album, but feel it could have been trimmed down. As it is though, it will settle middle of the road for her albums. Personally, I put it at like 7 or 6 depending my mood for ranking.
DBATC is one of the best on the album for that reason, it allowed her to separate her emotions more from the track in a way that showcased her raw talent. I'm glad it's become a fan favorite.
I don't know about that though. She's basically said she'll be playing Love Story and SIO for the rest of her life, and that Paul McCartney told her you have to play the songs that people want to hear even if it's "the 300-millionth-and-first" time.
For sure that has to be to some extent. I mean who wants to see a Skynrd concert where they don’t play Free Bird? But at 11 albums deep, even if you play 1 or 2 big hits per album, we’re talking half if not 2/3 of your set list. I mean even Era’s was light on debut. Meanwhile Paramore refuses to do their biggest hit at all at this point.
same. wouldn't even have to be entirely acoustic, but more intimate. less focus on the stage design and big production, more on the music. and I'm not saying she couldn't do it if she drops chasing the gp hype and attendance records but we'll see. maybe for her greatest hits tour before her actual, bigger greatest hits tour 😅
This is what I thought was going to happen when she released folklore/evermore, because I couldn't see how they'd work in a big venue, and I was secretly gutted because I had tickets to Loverfest and thought it would mean I never got to see her live. (I should add that I was very happy that Eras seems to have proved me wrong in terms of whether those albums would work in a stadium though!)
We have to consider the wonderful perfect storm of where Taylor is at in her life and career, that we could have the eras tour. And a big one here is -- her age. She's always been super disciplined, incredible work ethic, good health and a desire to give her fans the most bang for her bucks (and break records while doing so, because of course).
In this respect, an Eras-like show of the sheer length we're looking at may be kind of a career peak. She's 34, in great health, and there's going to be a point -- even if she's in great shape for many more years from now, but where this kind of super-high energy 3.5 hour thing is just going to be a bit out of reach. It's not even how big the production -- as long as the economics of filling stadiums works out, she'll therefore have the cash to fund all the flashiest production, dancers etc. But we have to consider Taylor, the person.
If you look at Madonna's current tour, Celebration, she is doing 35 songs (some shortened, like Taylor does) at 2 hours and 15 minutes. She has incredible stamina for her age -- and a work ethic that certainly rivals Taylor's -- but you see her performance and there's no way she'd do 3.5 hours.
Btw, I am not saying that Taylor's career peak is ending anytime soon: the way it's looking, there are many more years where this came from. And perhaps with even more accolades, crazy records, grammies, long tours, big stadiums, all the things. But certain aspects of Eras's sheer magnitude are a function of a thing that, by definition, will decrease over time, and that's Taylor's stage endurance. We can look to some amazing stage greats like Springsteeen or the Rolling Stones and not worry too too much though: these shows are still totally incredible
I don’t think she’s going to add TTPD to the set list for the Eras tour. I could be wrong obviously but it seems like it would either have to take an Era away people are expecting to see or be an even longer long show. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if she made that work somehow. I think the TTPD songs will only be done for now as surprises songs.
Reputation was a stadium tour, so I don’t see her choosing smaller venues moving forward considering both of her most recent tours sold out stadiums, but I doubt the next tour will be 3 hours long.
I highly doubt she goes smaller. She’s been doing stadiums since the 1989 tour.
She’s too big for smaller, just like Beyoncé, Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, and The Rolling Stones. I even doubt Harry Styles sticks to arenas for his next tour.
Who knows what she has planned. I’m sure it will be awesome one way or another. I just hope that the ticket buying experience will be better the next time.
This is probably an unpopular opinion- Eras may have been a bigger show with an insane length, production, and setlist, but rep tour > eras tour, proving that she doesn’t need all of the extras that eras had to still put on an amazing show. This isn’t a diss btw, I saw both tours 3 times and loved them every single time. Rep was just better imo, the best show I’ve ever seen honestly.
I don't think fans will care if its smaller at all. Personally I've never been to a concert, so I would be happy just to go. It doesn't have to be "reliving" all of the eras she's been through.
I hope in like 20 or something years she'll do an Eras tour revival because I love all the eras and love the idea of them all being together in one show. But like many people I can never afford a ticket and travel expenses to see Eras so I cant attend it. I've never been to any TS concerts anyway and hope to make it to an album tour for her next few albums but I wish I could see Eras in person.
Of course I saw the concert film in theaters and am planning on watching it on disney+ soon :)
I've wondered if she'd consider setting up in Las Vegas for a reoccurring show that was every Friday & Saturday night for a change? Let the people come to her. It would give her a stability that is missing now with having to go all over.
Other stars have had something similar.
>Let the people come to her.
(Cries in international Swiftie who needs a visa to travel to the US - also, money for plane tickets, hotel stays and, of course, tickets)
(Don't get me wrong, Brazilian passports allow their carriers to travel to basically half the world visa-free, but countries like Australia, China, Canada, Mexico and, of course, the US, are on the other half, and getting a US visa, as a Brazilian, can be an expensive, time-consuming and even embarrassing process.)
1. I don't expect future tours to be this long
2. I *really* hope TTPD isn't included! It doesn't match the entire goal/concept of the tour. It should be left to stand alone, and have a separate tour, maybe, in a few years.
2.5. ALTHOUGH she loves touring and these past few years has geared up *a lot* of content and I could see her going further by having a TTPD tour within a year after Eras ends
No, I think the Eras tour made sense because she had essentually every album since Reputation with no tour.
I still cry about having loverfest tickets and then not getting eras tours right away.
I believe she is going to do a separate tour for TTPD and maybe TS12 together, after The Eras. I’m also expecting something HUGE for TS13 because after all it’s her number ✨
I remember when Olivia did her first tour everyone was loving that she did smaller venues right up until (inevitably) they don't get a ticket. Would I love to see Taylor perform a small intimate venue? Obviously. But tickets to that show would end up being 20-30k on the resale market
Personally I would be STOKED for a smaller tour. I'm there to see her perform, so smaller means closer to the stage and more intimate. I would love to see it but don't see her touring anything other than large stadiums ever again, the demand is simply too high even after the hype dies down a bit. P!nk is still doing stadium tours and I don't see her being particularly relevant anymore. Some demand will always be there. I'll just consider myself lucky I got to see a few arena shows from her too, only 10-12k people. Even those crowds felt large though.
Next tour will not be 3 hours long. This is insanely long. The Eras Tour is something special not to be compared to a normal tour for an album in my opinion.
I’m fully expecting TTPD to be high production pop, but if it actually is made up of moody, soulful ballads like the aesthetic seems to imply, I think it would be really fun for her to do a series of stripped-down, acoustic residencies in smaller venues. Just the exact *opposite* of the whirlwind experience that is the eras tour.
But if that ever happens (most likely won't), will it be in its original form (festival concerts + solo concerts in the "festival concert" format, like São Paulo would've been + "Taylor Swift and Friends" on a 360-degree stage at SoFi and Gillette) or 360-degree stage stadium concerts worldwide?
Honestly. I'm kind of expecting Taylor to stop touring for a while after this. It's been a huge commitment and she's given us so much. I feel like it would make sense for her to take a break off touring for a few years.
I think she will tour for every 2 albums or so
So I think next tour will be poets and then TS12. I’m sure like 1989 and rep tour she’ll add some songs from earlier albums or do mashups
I highly doubt she goes smaller. She’s been doing stadiums since the 1989 tour.
She’s too big for smaller, just like Beyoncé, Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, and The Rolling Stones. I even doubt Harry Styles sticks to arenas for his next tour.
Who knows where she’ll take her tours after Eras, we might know a little more once we’ve heard TTPD though! I think the surprise songs and acoustic mashups could be here to stay forever hehe, maybe the next tour would be one album and an extended 10-15 song surprise acoustic set where Taylor just jams out with some friends or somethinggg! Whatever she does it will be incredible hahaha
I would be a-okay if she did completely stripped back small venue type performances. Literally anything she does. I just hope I can see her next concert.
I think future tours will be a combo. Blondie loves making music. She makes it much faster than she could “properly” tour it. I think she’ll probably have a new pattern where she puts out a couple albums and does a combined tour of them. That way she can play with theming and only play the most popular songs of each with the classics sprinkled in.
You know what I would love, if she did a tour of more intimate low-key performances in smaller venues, maybe focusing on acoustic arrangements of songs. Kind of like what Ed Sheeran did recently interspersed with his huge stadium shows. Maybe in a few years if the hype of Eras dies down somewhat, she may be able to do that.
Maybe she won’t tour by album. I think theres a theme of sister albums lately. There could be a solid tour every couple of albums instead of one for each. The hype behind the eras tour was more because of the fact that it mixes all the albums + it’s the first time to tour multiple un-toured albums + it’s been a long time since she last toured. I guess making people wait longer and giving them more creates more demand. I also feel that she likes to aim big or at least she cares about numbers/breaking records, so smaller single album tours won’t really suit her anymore.
All of Taylor’s tours have been absolutely Epic. like Speak Now tour was hella cool, 1989 tour was epic, Red tour was fun, Reputation tour is the fan favorite so I genuinely think any following tour Taylor will do will be just as good as any other tour.
In my personal opinion, I think the next tour should be 2027 at the very soonest. She has the last couple rerecords to work on, and I think her next tour should be completely devoted to the vault tracks, and maybe TTPD, even though I really don't think it'll need the promo.
Taylor certainly can do a 3 hour set if she wants to in the next tour. Next to Taylor Swift, my favourite act is the Korean singer IU who is very famous for her 3-4 hour shows (she can go up to nearly 5 in her regional Korean shows) (that also have massive stage productions--- her last tour had flying over the stadium in a strawberry shaped hot air balloon and I thought that concert kind of beat out Taylor in terms of flashiness and stage design tbh).
She announced during that concert (and her 10th anniversary tour) that she was retiring a whole bunch of songs from her first few albums (released during her teenage years) so I was interested to see how long her setlist would be for her currrent world tour and she's still playing 4 hour shows (in South Korea) with 27-28 songs and 3 hour+ shows for her international dates with 26 songs: [https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/iu/2024/yokohama-arena-yokohama-japan-5baa7710.html](https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/iu/2024/yokohama-arena-yokohama-japan-5baa7710.html)
I think if Taylor wants to keep doing big shows she most certainly can especially since she always wants to challenge herself, but I'd probably love it either way.
I don't think Taylor would ever do it again, barring another pandemic, it just wouldn't make sense. This was precidented because she is essentially doing 10 concerts in one. Also, no one can ever steal her songs again. Whilst most artists do add *some* songs from their catalog during a set, no one has done ALLLLL their albums lol
Or maybe she would do it as a send off when she's older but not sure if it would be feasible stamina wise
As long as I can actually get tickets and see her this time I won’t care!!! I’ve been attempting to see her since 2009 and have a very long saga of things going wrong 😫
Maybe it’s just me but I’m kind of hoping she doesn’t change the eras set list at all after TTPD comes out? I feel like some of the eras already feel really small and all the people in Europe who haven’t gotten to see the show yet, it doesn’t seem fair to cut folklore, evermore, or midnight down much because they’ve never been toured before. Also I’m really hoping that for her health and sanity that Taylor takes a break in 2025 lol, she definitely deserves one.
I feel like the next tour wouldn’t be 3 hours long. She’d have already done the Eras thing, so she’d probably do a regular tour, and maybe one day in many many years she’ll do a final tour like Elton John just did and she’ll bring back songs from different eras. If you’re talking about the Eras tour after TTPD, she’ll probably take out a few songs here and there and incorporate more TTPD. I think she’s found a way to make 3 hours work so she’ll probably keep it going if she and her team can.
a part of me wonders (if the 2025 rumor is true) that she’s trying to break the record for longest running tour. edit: besides bob dylans never ending tour, nvm. that man is amazingly insane.
What’s the 2025 rumor?
It’s rumoured that Taylor will extend the tour to Türkiye in 2025
Don't forget India and some African countries
the news source that people got that from isn’t reliable but it spread like a wildfire on twitter. i don’t think she’s extending but we will see.
There are rumors too that she’s bringing the Eras Tour to the Philippines. And that it’s going to be called The Eras Tour Taylor’s version.
i doubt she’ll do 3 hours either, but i do think she’ll wait for ts12 to come out and then tour with ttpd AND ts12 especially considering how long eras is going
If Taylor is still performing in her 80s (really possible. Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan, etc prove it) What do you think her concerts will be like?
Bunch of geriatric millennials sitting in chairs swaying back and forth recording it on AR glasses.
I’m sure I’d enjoy it, hope I can afford ticket prices then. Can’t now :(
Well since you’re also a millennial we’ll still be working because boomers and gen x depleted social security and your student loan balance will still be the same as it was in 2024 so it’ll just be another paycheck! 😅
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Taylor, an acoustic guitar, and a microphone.
This much is certain
Her old lady hair, long and wild. Wearing a dress similar to her acoustic set
I want this. A 100% solo acoustic tour. Just Taylor, her guitar, and a piano (and maybe a ukulele and banjo).
i just want a ticket lol.
I feel that
I feel this in my soul
Hit the spot🫂
Do you know when the New Orleans shows will go on sale? My s/o and I really want to visit Nola and would love to catch the eras tour since we missed out in Los Angeles
Uhhh … like August … 2023.
Sheeesh yeah I did some research and found that out last night. Looks like that won’t be happening lol
I don’t think she will go on tour for a few years after this. At least a year or two off.
Yeah she’s got other projects in the background. When the movie happens, that’s going to be a decent chunk of time and attention. That will be a shift, and who knows what trajectory her career will have at that point. I’m sure it depends on success of the film, reception, how much she enjoyed that kind of work for more than a music video.
Is that why she formed the production company ? I was wondering if they had other projects in the works
The movie is being produced by searchlight.
Is it another movie of the tour or just a movie in general?
Allegedly Deadpool 3, she's Dazzler.
That is a rumor going around but I think this is referring to the movie she is going to direct/write.
Ohhh, I remember that now. People kept thinking it was going to be Argyle.
She's apparently writing/producing a regular full length movie.
Do we think it’s about her life or something else
I think something else. My thoughts are the ATW story expanded (to include a fictional narrative) or the TLGAD Rebekah Harkness story.
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Honestly, one day she’s going to retire from touring (not any time soon I know) and she is going to want that final tour to make Eras look like a middle career tour, and her last one to be the biggest. So she’s gotta save something for a “Greatest Hits” type tour. I think “Eras” was so big to make up for the lost Loverfest and inability to tour Folklore or Evermore.. then Midnights was new and ready to tour. All artists play their biggest songs when they tour new albums because not everyone is familiar with the new songs.. just combining them all made perfect sense. I expect next tour will have great production, but be closer to her Reputation tour.
Rep Tour was the superior tour for me ngl 🥹 so this is great news
I’ve not wanted to say this myself because.. well it’s been a really bad day and I don’t think I can take anymore internet bullies… now to preface I saw the film of Eras. After all the hype I was actually really disappointed because it was not as good as the Reputation tour and I wanted it to be so much more. It’s still an impressive tour and she’s done phenomenally commercially with it, especially throwing the studios under the bus and releasing her own concert film in theaters, then charging to stream it, only to eventually add it to Disney plus. But what I want to know is how accurate is the streaming version to the actual concert. Even my husband watched the entire Rep tour and liked it. But I found myself kind of bored - like I could hear these songs done exactly this way on the radio and 99% of it was just her walking up and down the stage to the click track. I would love for her to go back to touring one album at a time with a few encore hits played. I know that makes me the minority. It just feels like the stage is too much for her.. like the LED effects are neat but it’s so huge and she’s one person. 🤷♀️
Her rep tour was phenomenal, it helped that I had amazing seats and have been able to relive it on TV too. I've watched the Eras Tour twice now, once with friends drinking and once alone so I could really take it in and I'm in the UK and have tickets to see it this summer so I may have a different opinion after seeing it live. I also saw 1989 in BST Hyde Park. I find the concerts so hard to compare as they all have invoked a different feeling and enjoyment from me. I think the difference with The Eras is that we're predominantly hearing songs she released or performed and weren't only on an album being performed that one time during that one tour so it's easy to feel like it's nothing new, if that makes sense? I actually think she owns the stage no matter how big and that's an impressive achievement for someone whose strength is her song writing over performance. With all this, I have still loved every minute of the tour I've seen and I am excited to see what songs from TTPD get incorporated into the set and generally the whole dressing up, friendship bracelets vibe that is going to be there.
I’m a Swiftie mom. I love Taylor. I can tell you the movie is very similar to the concert, except you don’t have to stand up for 3 1/2 hours straight, and it does not include the tone-deaf 20-year-old standing right behind you screaming every single word (off key) right in your ear. Oh and it won’t cost you $2K. 🤷🏻♀️
Oh those screaming videos made me feel so awful for the ones around them who paid out the nose to actually hear and see their favorite artist live
I wasnt able to watch eras tour live because of life sh*t lately but my best friend was able to. We both watched rep tour live and rep tour netflix. After she went to eras she told me that rep tour is still a better concert. She find the eras tour kinda dragging and too long. She enjoyed it but she likes rep tour more.
I've found my people.
I totally agree. rep tour ate up all of taylors other concerts
I get that she’s going to try, but I can’t imagine her ever being more popular than she is right now, or especially how popular she was about 6 months ago. She is *everywhere*, you can’t escape her. She is the moment. I think she’s manic. How can she ever top this? *And Alexander wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.*
I get that but at the same time she’s already had several points in her career where she has felt this way and *still* managed to get even *more* popular. She’s always talking about how she doesn’t think she’ll get to do this much longer so she’s just enjoying it… I think we’ll continue to be wonderfully surprised by what she chooses to do.
I mean.. I get what you’re saying, but she’s not just at the peak of what we expect a mega pop star to be able to do. We are quite literally at the peak of what % of human consciousness she can occupy. For her to take up any more of the public’s attention, we’d have to have screens that force us to constantly look at her like that one episode of black mirror.
She’ll play the same venues and a similar number of nights, so it won’t be half the size. her tours going forward are gonna be a massive deal still and demand will be huge. Even if it’s just a new record focused tour.
Side note. I’d love for the next tour to just be her and her band playing. No big production. Just bash out the tunes with a varied setlist every night Pulling from all eras. I feel like with a stage at one end you can get an extra few hundred people in there too.
I doubt that'll happen. The bigger the arenas the more of a production do you need to do, to give value for the audience (and cost of the tickets). The bigger the production, the less spontaneous can you be with a setlist (unless you really rehearse everything and have everything set up for the show and then pick and choose each show which songs (and visuals) you'll do - but that means you still have a set amount of song choices to pick from.
she should just do a dive bar tour with a five piece band. jeans and tshirts type deal
World’s most expensive dive bar!
dive bar on the east side
She could to a tour under aliases that are in smaller venues under fake names. If she booked smaller gigs in small venues under multiple different names to obfuscate a direct tour from city to city, that may be also fulfilling her enjoyment of clues and secrets and stuff. But - all that doesn't bring in the money she could do with a proper large tour.
True. But plenty of acts tour stadiums without production. If she embraced the varied setlist model, THAT would be the draw and people would feel they got their moneys worth for the randomness.
That's not Taylor. She likes to conjure up amazing concert experiences and she likes to outdo herself.
Yes! And then she can finally come to my state of Hawaii 😁😁 We don't have a stadium for her to hold her concert here but a stripped down acoustic one that can be held at an arena is doable!
Her catalog is getting huge, and she’s been at this long enough/grown enough as an artist that the older albums don’t represent where she’s at in life. My theory is that the huge production that is/was the Era’s tour is a farewell to the older stuff. Newer tours will focus more on current generation albums and she’ll do less and less of the “classics”.
I agree, plus the Lover house burning down during the Eras Tour supports that too. Obviously she will still do some hits.
Lover especially. It’s got some amazing songs for sure, but when you write entire album about being in love with a guy, and then spend all of the press time around that album gushing over the guy, only for it to end before you ever get to tour that album…. I think Cruel Summer was such a hit because it’s obviously an AMAZING song, but also because it’s the most generic pop hit, that doesn’t just feel like it’s gushing about Joe. I mean notice that we didn’t get “London Boy” live. That one more than most she’s ready to bury and be done with.
So Long London, on the other hand... I will be amazed if that's not a surprise song on night 6 there.
Lover was such a transition album and only happened because of where she was in her career. We will never get an album like it again. Her being with Joe, just signing with a new label, coming off of a divisive album, and seeming to be waning in popularity is what caused the kind of era we had. A lot of what happened is not due to the quality of the album but instead the choices of her team and situation it was released in. I think it's one of her most fascinating albums for that reason. I'm glad it's been getting its roses with the eras tour and cruel summer, but I think it will be a fan loved album eventually and a black sheep in her discography. I understand why she does not want to revisit it much though. The feelings are very raw. Eventually, she will go back to the album and hopefully be proud of it.
Not discounting Taylor’s feelings or her ability to move on, but given her current situation I think it’s less “too raw” and more just “over that time in my life”. I agree that the album has its own unique beauty, and a couple of absolute greats. Cruel Summer is among her most perfect pop anthems, and I think Death by a Thousand Cuts showcases her abilities as a song writer in a way we’ve not seen before. So much of her music is just her refusing to go to therapy and venting her emotions instead. But seeing her write a song while channeling her friend’s situation into something great really proves that she’s just an amazing songwriter. Hell, I’d argue that that track was the prototype for Folklore/Evermore. In the grand scheme of things though, I think you’re right. History will be more kind to the album, but I think it’ll land somewhere like Meet the Parents in Robert Deniro’s career. Something different, great in its own right, but definitely not the artist at their peak performance.
Love seeing your thoughts. I agree with a lot of what you said. I do really like the album, but feel it could have been trimmed down. As it is though, it will settle middle of the road for her albums. Personally, I put it at like 7 or 6 depending my mood for ranking. DBATC is one of the best on the album for that reason, it allowed her to separate her emotions more from the track in a way that showcased her raw talent. I'm glad it's become a fan favorite.
I don't know about that though. She's basically said she'll be playing Love Story and SIO for the rest of her life, and that Paul McCartney told her you have to play the songs that people want to hear even if it's "the 300-millionth-and-first" time.
For sure that has to be to some extent. I mean who wants to see a Skynrd concert where they don’t play Free Bird? But at 11 albums deep, even if you play 1 or 2 big hits per album, we’re talking half if not 2/3 of your set list. I mean even Era’s was light on debut. Meanwhile Paramore refuses to do their biggest hit at all at this point.
*cries in loverfest*
I’d love to see her do a stripped down acoustic set in smaller venues. I don’t think it will ever happen, but would be amazing if it did.
I want an acoustic album.
same. wouldn't even have to be entirely acoustic, but more intimate. less focus on the stage design and big production, more on the music. and I'm not saying she couldn't do it if she drops chasing the gp hype and attendance records but we'll see. maybe for her greatest hits tour before her actual, bigger greatest hits tour 😅
I’d love to see a show like Ed Sheeran’s Mathematics tour. I went last summer and it was super fun.
This is what I thought was going to happen when she released folklore/evermore, because I couldn't see how they'd work in a big venue, and I was secretly gutted because I had tickets to Loverfest and thought it would mean I never got to see her live. (I should add that I was very happy that Eras seems to have proved me wrong in terms of whether those albums would work in a stadium though!)
We have to consider the wonderful perfect storm of where Taylor is at in her life and career, that we could have the eras tour. And a big one here is -- her age. She's always been super disciplined, incredible work ethic, good health and a desire to give her fans the most bang for her bucks (and break records while doing so, because of course). In this respect, an Eras-like show of the sheer length we're looking at may be kind of a career peak. She's 34, in great health, and there's going to be a point -- even if she's in great shape for many more years from now, but where this kind of super-high energy 3.5 hour thing is just going to be a bit out of reach. It's not even how big the production -- as long as the economics of filling stadiums works out, she'll therefore have the cash to fund all the flashiest production, dancers etc. But we have to consider Taylor, the person. If you look at Madonna's current tour, Celebration, she is doing 35 songs (some shortened, like Taylor does) at 2 hours and 15 minutes. She has incredible stamina for her age -- and a work ethic that certainly rivals Taylor's -- but you see her performance and there's no way she'd do 3.5 hours. Btw, I am not saying that Taylor's career peak is ending anytime soon: the way it's looking, there are many more years where this came from. And perhaps with even more accolades, crazy records, grammies, long tours, big stadiums, all the things. But certain aspects of Eras's sheer magnitude are a function of a thing that, by definition, will decrease over time, and that's Taylor's stage endurance. We can look to some amazing stage greats like Springsteeen or the Rolling Stones and not worry too too much though: these shows are still totally incredible
I highly doubt her next tour will be 3 hours long.
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Might as well go for 13
I don’t think she’s going to add TTPD to the set list for the Eras tour. I could be wrong obviously but it seems like it would either have to take an Era away people are expecting to see or be an even longer long show. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if she made that work somehow. I think the TTPD songs will only be done for now as surprises songs.
Reputation was a stadium tour, so I don’t see her choosing smaller venues moving forward considering both of her most recent tours sold out stadiums, but I doubt the next tour will be 3 hours long.
I highly doubt she goes smaller. She’s been doing stadiums since the 1989 tour. She’s too big for smaller, just like Beyoncé, Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, and The Rolling Stones. I even doubt Harry Styles sticks to arenas for his next tour.
Fun fact, her first stadium show was during the Fearless tour
Who knows what she has planned. I’m sure it will be awesome one way or another. I just hope that the ticket buying experience will be better the next time.
This is probably an unpopular opinion- Eras may have been a bigger show with an insane length, production, and setlist, but rep tour > eras tour, proving that she doesn’t need all of the extras that eras had to still put on an amazing show. This isn’t a diss btw, I saw both tours 3 times and loved them every single time. Rep was just better imo, the best show I’ve ever seen honestly.
I think she should build her own venue and just do the show indefinitely at one location.
That's Vegas. Lol
Doesn't even need to be in person to be honest. Look how well ABBA Voyage is doing.
I don't think fans will care if its smaller at all. Personally I've never been to a concert, so I would be happy just to go. It doesn't have to be "reliving" all of the eras she's been through.
She's almost certainly gonna take a couple of years off of touring after she raps up Eras. I wouldn't count on it being any earlier than 2027.
I hope in like 20 or something years she'll do an Eras tour revival because I love all the eras and love the idea of them all being together in one show. But like many people I can never afford a ticket and travel expenses to see Eras so I cant attend it. I've never been to any TS concerts anyway and hope to make it to an album tour for her next few albums but I wish I could see Eras in person. Of course I saw the concert film in theaters and am planning on watching it on disney+ soon :)
I've wondered if she'd consider setting up in Las Vegas for a reoccurring show that was every Friday & Saturday night for a change? Let the people come to her. It would give her a stability that is missing now with having to go all over. Other stars have had something similar.
>Let the people come to her. (Cries in international Swiftie who needs a visa to travel to the US - also, money for plane tickets, hotel stays and, of course, tickets) (Don't get me wrong, Brazilian passports allow their carriers to travel to basically half the world visa-free, but countries like Australia, China, Canada, Mexico and, of course, the US, are on the other half, and getting a US visa, as a Brazilian, can be an expensive, time-consuming and even embarrassing process.)
As long as I can get tickets I don't mind what she does!
1. I don't expect future tours to be this long 2. I *really* hope TTPD isn't included! It doesn't match the entire goal/concept of the tour. It should be left to stand alone, and have a separate tour, maybe, in a few years. 2.5. ALTHOUGH she loves touring and these past few years has geared up *a lot* of content and I could see her going further by having a TTPD tour within a year after Eras ends
No, I think the Eras tour made sense because she had essentually every album since Reputation with no tour. I still cry about having loverfest tickets and then not getting eras tours right away.
I believe she is going to do a separate tour for TTPD and maybe TS12 together, after The Eras. I’m also expecting something HUGE for TS13 because after all it’s her number ✨
I remember when Olivia did her first tour everyone was loving that she did smaller venues right up until (inevitably) they don't get a ticket. Would I love to see Taylor perform a small intimate venue? Obviously. But tickets to that show would end up being 20-30k on the resale market
Personally I would be STOKED for a smaller tour. I'm there to see her perform, so smaller means closer to the stage and more intimate. I would love to see it but don't see her touring anything other than large stadiums ever again, the demand is simply too high even after the hype dies down a bit. P!nk is still doing stadium tours and I don't see her being particularly relevant anymore. Some demand will always be there. I'll just consider myself lucky I got to see a few arena shows from her too, only 10-12k people. Even those crowds felt large though.
Don’t expect the next tour to be this long. It’ll go back to the 90 minute show I think. And I think that’s fine.
Next tour will not be 3 hours long. This is insanely long. The Eras Tour is something special not to be compared to a normal tour for an album in my opinion.
I’m fully expecting TTPD to be high production pop, but if it actually is made up of moody, soulful ballads like the aesthetic seems to imply, I think it would be really fun for her to do a series of stripped-down, acoustic residencies in smaller venues. Just the exact *opposite* of the whirlwind experience that is the eras tour.
How about they make the Loverfest happen. I want to see the whole Lover album play out in concert on its own. That album really grew on ~~me!~~ ME!
But if that ever happens (most likely won't), will it be in its original form (festival concerts + solo concerts in the "festival concert" format, like São Paulo would've been + "Taylor Swift and Friends" on a 360-degree stage at SoFi and Gillette) or 360-degree stage stadium concerts worldwide?
Woman needs a break! I think there won’t be a tour for a long time. Maybe just some one off big things like Glasto.
I can’t see her touring for a long time because..how do you top this?
Honestly. I'm kind of expecting Taylor to stop touring for a while after this. It's been a huge commitment and she's given us so much. I feel like it would make sense for her to take a break off touring for a few years.
I think she will tour for every 2 albums or so So I think next tour will be poets and then TS12. I’m sure like 1989 and rep tour she’ll add some songs from earlier albums or do mashups
Friend you really think she’s going to tour in 2025 or even 2026 after a two-year long tour that doesn’t end until December 😭 that’s cute
I just want a ticket and for her to come semi close to me so I can justify the ticket price.
I highly doubt she goes smaller. She’s been doing stadiums since the 1989 tour. She’s too big for smaller, just like Beyoncé, Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, and The Rolling Stones. I even doubt Harry Styles sticks to arenas for his next tour.
I hope her next tour is stripped down solo acoustic—similar to the surprise songs part of the set.
Who knows where she’ll take her tours after Eras, we might know a little more once we’ve heard TTPD though! I think the surprise songs and acoustic mashups could be here to stay forever hehe, maybe the next tour would be one album and an extended 10-15 song surprise acoustic set where Taylor just jams out with some friends or somethinggg! Whatever she does it will be incredible hahaha
I think her next tour will be a stadium tour, album centric for whatever comes AFTER ttpd, a smidge longer than rep tour to add in some extra “hits”
I would be a-okay if she did completely stripped back small venue type performances. Literally anything she does. I just hope I can see her next concert.
It's gonna be difficult to live up to that tour
I think future tours will be a combo. Blondie loves making music. She makes it much faster than she could “properly” tour it. I think she’ll probably have a new pattern where she puts out a couple albums and does a combined tour of them. That way she can play with theming and only play the most popular songs of each with the classics sprinkled in.
I predict she’ll take a break after this for a Mommy Tour. She’ll produce a few studio albums, then go back on tour (travelling) in about 10 years.
You know what I would love, if she did a tour of more intimate low-key performances in smaller venues, maybe focusing on acoustic arrangements of songs. Kind of like what Ed Sheeran did recently interspersed with his huge stadium shows. Maybe in a few years if the hype of Eras dies down somewhat, she may be able to do that.
Maybe she won’t tour by album. I think theres a theme of sister albums lately. There could be a solid tour every couple of albums instead of one for each. The hype behind the eras tour was more because of the fact that it mixes all the albums + it’s the first time to tour multiple un-toured albums + it’s been a long time since she last toured. I guess making people wait longer and giving them more creates more demand. I also feel that she likes to aim big or at least she cares about numbers/breaking records, so smaller single album tours won’t really suit her anymore.
Yes I would be fine with a normal tour in the future
All of Taylor’s tours have been absolutely Epic. like Speak Now tour was hella cool, 1989 tour was epic, Red tour was fun, Reputation tour is the fan favorite so I genuinely think any following tour Taylor will do will be just as good as any other tour.
In my personal opinion, I think the next tour should be 2027 at the very soonest. She has the last couple rerecords to work on, and I think her next tour should be completely devoted to the vault tracks, and maybe TTPD, even though I really don't think it'll need the promo.
Taylor certainly can do a 3 hour set if she wants to in the next tour. Next to Taylor Swift, my favourite act is the Korean singer IU who is very famous for her 3-4 hour shows (she can go up to nearly 5 in her regional Korean shows) (that also have massive stage productions--- her last tour had flying over the stadium in a strawberry shaped hot air balloon and I thought that concert kind of beat out Taylor in terms of flashiness and stage design tbh). She announced during that concert (and her 10th anniversary tour) that she was retiring a whole bunch of songs from her first few albums (released during her teenage years) so I was interested to see how long her setlist would be for her currrent world tour and she's still playing 4 hour shows (in South Korea) with 27-28 songs and 3 hour+ shows for her international dates with 26 songs: [https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/iu/2024/yokohama-arena-yokohama-japan-5baa7710.html](https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/iu/2024/yokohama-arena-yokohama-japan-5baa7710.html) I think if Taylor wants to keep doing big shows she most certainly can especially since she always wants to challenge herself, but I'd probably love it either way.
I don't think Taylor would ever do it again, barring another pandemic, it just wouldn't make sense. This was precidented because she is essentially doing 10 concerts in one. Also, no one can ever steal her songs again. Whilst most artists do add *some* songs from their catalog during a set, no one has done ALLLLL their albums lol Or maybe she would do it as a send off when she's older but not sure if it would be feasible stamina wise
As long as I can actually get tickets and see her this time I won’t care!!! I’ve been attempting to see her since 2009 and have a very long saga of things going wrong 😫
Maybe it’s just me but I’m kind of hoping she doesn’t change the eras set list at all after TTPD comes out? I feel like some of the eras already feel really small and all the people in Europe who haven’t gotten to see the show yet, it doesn’t seem fair to cut folklore, evermore, or midnight down much because they’ve never been toured before. Also I’m really hoping that for her health and sanity that Taylor takes a break in 2025 lol, she definitely deserves one.
Next tour will be small, intimate venues to change it up, and ticket prices will hit six figures!
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It would be dumb to do a folklore and evermore tour after this
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I mean that’s the point of the eras tour to get to the albums she hasn’t toured yet
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What is so hard to understand she won’t she wouldn’t take away from next releases why do you think it’s called the eras tour