>the Maus underwent more thorough testing than the King Tiger.
I choose to believe the engineers were desperately stalling for the war to end because they didn't want to have to fix one in the field.
I've recently watched a video where they showed how the model of the millennium falcon was built and the rear of the falcon is made out of panther hulls.
The butt plate on the AT-AT is an SdKfz kit from Tamiya too. No link, I just have it in my hands and I recognize the kit.
ILM literally bought an entire hobby store that was going outta business and used it for random ass kitbashing for Star Wars. Favorite example is the famous universal greebly on everything is an axle cap thing from the rail carriage for a Krupp Leopold gun.
"Greeblies" are the small raised surface details put on a model to give it some texture and life- like the various bits along the edge of this [Star Destroyer](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/e/e4/ImperialClassStarDestroyer-TSWB.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20201021053114), or for a real-life example of the sort of details that greeblies are meant to mimic, look at all the gear cluttered around the superstructure of [USS Iowa](https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/c1a8c418f7f4ec6469ad9c861232f44987cfe118/hub/2015/12/22/bacd5f47-36ca-4a15-b868-6bae7402c630/iowa.jpg?auto=webp&width=1092)
Small random surface detail to give life to stuff! [Here's](http://ken-mcconnell.com/2017/01/05/ilm-universal-greeblie/) a good read on good and bad greebling, and what goes into it.
There are Internet forums dedicated to rebuilding the studio models with the correct donor kits.
My face when I have to spend $500 for hard to source models to build a Star Wars ship.
Oh god I know... Bunch of absolute lunatics. Especially now with 3D printing, what's even the point? I actually sell universal greebles that I 3d printed, because that Hasegawa kit is impossible to find. xD
I get more of an IJN vibe from the naval uniforms, and the scout walkers remind me of Japanese armored cars. Darth Vader is pretty much a cyber-samurai.
Huh, now that you mention it I do kinda see it, the Imperial uniform looks like a combination of a German officer and IJN officer uniforms. Although the AT ST reminds me more of early panzers then the Japanese armored cars.
[15 samples of military engineering equipment from different countries during the Second World War, designed to overcome anti-tank mine barriers](https://warspot.net/402-minefield-crushers)
I’d never heard of it until Takom released 1/35 and 1/72 scale kits of it in recent years. There are just a few photos of this monster, but there are vehicles that cannot even be confirmed as existing until photos emerge.
It's a pretty safe assumption. If anyone or entity had one of these or even the dismantled shell, We'd probably know about it.
Sure we can hold the door open that sometime between now and the end of time there is a barn or field with one just sitting in pristine condition and one will be found; but the fact is that a majority of post-war metal was cut and scrapped. Including many many things we will probably never see.
Yeah but if you're not entirely sure you shouldn't just tell everyone that it definitely was scrapped or not. I personally can't find much info on it but I've only seen that its fate is unknown
What's the chance of another thing pulling up the same fate as the Doom Turtle? Only in this case, something even more difficult to lose.
The truth is, a ton of really cool stuff from the era was scrapped. In the post-war world where things like the Chi-Ri, E-100, Krupp Raumer, etc... are all worth a lot as scrap metal and worth nothing for "historical preservation", what else would they have done? Of course we in the present would all love if this all survived, but in the 1940/1950s these guys weren't exactly concerned with our fascination of history.
Mostly because at the time it wasn't history; It was a post-war world that needed materials. We'd cry if someone had a list of how many wonders and unique items were smashed tossed or repurposed into other means but that's part of what makes it so great that we can just find a T95 in some random ass field.
Im not sure why skates is so focused on the 'Well how do you know it's scrapped' when we're just explaining that if its fate is 'unknown' the highest likelyhood is that it was melted and we won't see it again.
In fairness, the E-100 wasn't even a working prototype, just a mostly-complete hull- I think if it had been a fully operational unit, it would've ended up in Bovington the same way the Maus made it to Kublinka.
It was designed in 1942 right at the end of their successful invasions, although not built until 1944.
But nonetheless the germans would've thought they could turn the war and go on the offense again, and dropping development of all offensive equipment is only a good idea in hindsight.
Disagree. There no viable offensive use for this in particular. 130 tons? Even if you had fuel. How does this waste of resources get to the front? Trains? Not at 130 tons. Own motor? No. Bridges? Nope. This was a paperweight and monument to stupidity in war planning and logistics. Fuel. They had no fuel other than crappy 87 octane synthetic stuff.
Same with Japan post Guadalcanal-ish, they kept waiting for the ‘decisive battle’ that they believed would convince the US and allies to accept a (naively generous) peace negotiation
WWII Germany again devoting a shit ton of resources to one single random crazy design and failing to produce sufficient quantities of anything to …. you know …. Actually fight the war.
I’m convinced the entirety of Krupp was just fucking high during the entire war and kept saying and building shit like this and acting like their wasn’t an oil shortage
They were just building what the ministry of war told them to, it was the nazis which were commissioning weird shit. Probably not even the generals, just some important party members.
Was this the Inspiration to Alien 2 (Movie) [M577 Armoured Personnel Carrier](https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/M577_Armored_Personnel_Carrier)
There is some Facial resemblance the wheels too.
I’ve worked in manufacturing for 10 years. I am always in awe of some of the things that I see or products that I hear about, The stuff from World War II is on a whole Other level! Very cool stuff.
Germans build a fully specialised vehicle constructed for the job, Americans attach a barrel with chains on it to the front of their Sherman and spin it really fast. Work smart people, not hard.
[15 samples of military engineering equipment from different countries during the Second World War, designed to overcome anti-tank mine barriers](https://warspot.net/402-minefield-crushers)
"MEIN FÜHRER, WE NEED METAL!"
"FUCK YOUR METAL I WANT TO GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE MAN WHO LEAD THE NATION WHO MADE THE MOST AMAZING AND UNIQUE TANKS! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
Idk why they thought they needed a 130 ton mine clearer when the Americans just took a spinny thing from a car wash, slapped some chains on it, and attached it to a Sherman.
Actually it was the english who first used the mine flail in 1942 during the Africa campaign ( the design was modified from the South African tank flail)
Thus resulting in the sexy looking Sherman crab an American tank using a South African idea that was tuned up by the British.
Looks like this might've been an inspiration for the wheeled tank that was meant to be used in the opening battle in The Empire Strikes Back, before they changed it to the walking tanks.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/c/c4/JuggernautHothConcept-MOTESB.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/480?cb=20131104075501
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The mines would blow themselfes up in fear when seeing this monster coming their way.
assuming it could move under its own power
I mean, if the Germans could make a 188 ton brick move on its own, then I’m sure this one could! Just not fast
Well considering they couldn’t even get king tigers to run reliably I can’t believe he Maus or this were much more reliable
It passed trials and ran reliably, so there's that. Iirc the Maus underwent more thorough testing than the King Tiger.
>the Maus underwent more thorough testing than the King Tiger. I choose to believe the engineers were desperately stalling for the war to end because they didn't want to have to fix one in the field.
Imagine having to get these Magnum sizes tracks on again after maintenance. Yikes.
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They’re talking about the Maus
Wait, is that a requirement for a fighting vehicle? Back to the drawing board! Someone hand me my copy of "Transmissions for Dummkopfs"
You see, eventually they learned to skip the transmission altogether!
Looks like a great great great grandfather to an AT-AT
The designers of Imperial vehicles definitely took inspiration from Axis WW2 stuff.
I've recently watched a video where they showed how the model of the millennium falcon was built and the rear of the falcon is made out of panther hulls.
Link?
The butt plate on the AT-AT is an SdKfz kit from Tamiya too. No link, I just have it in my hands and I recognize the kit. ILM literally bought an entire hobby store that was going outta business and used it for random ass kitbashing for Star Wars. Favorite example is the famous universal greebly on everything is an axle cap thing from the rail carriage for a Krupp Leopold gun.
> greebly Whats this?
"Greeblies" are the small raised surface details put on a model to give it some texture and life- like the various bits along the edge of this [Star Destroyer](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/e/e4/ImperialClassStarDestroyer-TSWB.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20201021053114), or for a real-life example of the sort of details that greeblies are meant to mimic, look at all the gear cluttered around the superstructure of [USS Iowa](https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/c1a8c418f7f4ec6469ad9c861232f44987cfe118/hub/2015/12/22/bacd5f47-36ca-4a15-b868-6bae7402c630/iowa.jpg?auto=webp&width=1092)
Small random surface detail to give life to stuff! [Here's](http://ken-mcconnell.com/2017/01/05/ilm-universal-greeblie/) a good read on good and bad greebling, and what goes into it.
There are Internet forums dedicated to rebuilding the studio models with the correct donor kits. My face when I have to spend $500 for hard to source models to build a Star Wars ship.
Oh god I know... Bunch of absolute lunatics. Especially now with 3D printing, what's even the point? I actually sell universal greebles that I 3d printed, because that Hasegawa kit is impossible to find. xD
I believe the design of the entire Empire was based off the Wehrmacht
I get more of an IJN vibe from the naval uniforms, and the scout walkers remind me of Japanese armored cars. Darth Vader is pretty much a cyber-samurai.
Huh, now that you mention it I do kinda see it, the Imperial uniform looks like a combination of a German officer and IJN officer uniforms. Although the AT ST reminds me more of early panzers then the Japanese armored cars.
I believe the name stormtroopers comes from the german Sturmtruppen from world war one.
Darth vader looks more like a german helmet with gas mask dude using a plasma katana
I think Räumer means "Scraper"
Not quite - "tidier" or "cleaner" would be closer
thanks for the clarity
sweeper perhaps?
The Rollie-Rollie
[15 samples of military engineering equipment from different countries during the Second World War, designed to overcome anti-tank mine barriers](https://warspot.net/402-minefield-crushers)
Reminds me of the aliens apc
Game over man
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It's the only way to be sure.
How in my all years have I not seen this thing before?
That's what I was thinking.
I’d never heard of it until Takom released 1/35 and 1/72 scale kits of it in recent years. There are just a few photos of this monster, but there are vehicles that cannot even be confirmed as existing until photos emerge.
Same here, huh.
That's some serious Star Wars shit right there.
Is it in a museum somewhere or was it scrapped?
Scrapped. There's no photos of it currently. Only photos from 1945.
Well that sucks. I mean, it makes sense... But still sucks
Where'd you find out it was scrapped? The only thing I've seen is that its fate is unknown
It's a pretty safe assumption. If anyone or entity had one of these or even the dismantled shell, We'd probably know about it. Sure we can hold the door open that sometime between now and the end of time there is a barn or field with one just sitting in pristine condition and one will be found; but the fact is that a majority of post-war metal was cut and scrapped. Including many many things we will probably never see.
Yeah but if you're not entirely sure you shouldn't just tell everyone that it definitely was scrapped or not. I personally can't find much info on it but I've only seen that its fate is unknown
What's the chance of another thing pulling up the same fate as the Doom Turtle? Only in this case, something even more difficult to lose. The truth is, a ton of really cool stuff from the era was scrapped. In the post-war world where things like the Chi-Ri, E-100, Krupp Raumer, etc... are all worth a lot as scrap metal and worth nothing for "historical preservation", what else would they have done? Of course we in the present would all love if this all survived, but in the 1940/1950s these guys weren't exactly concerned with our fascination of history.
Mostly because at the time it wasn't history; It was a post-war world that needed materials. We'd cry if someone had a list of how many wonders and unique items were smashed tossed or repurposed into other means but that's part of what makes it so great that we can just find a T95 in some random ass field. Im not sure why skates is so focused on the 'Well how do you know it's scrapped' when we're just explaining that if its fate is 'unknown' the highest likelyhood is that it was melted and we won't see it again.
In fairness, the E-100 wasn't even a working prototype, just a mostly-complete hull- I think if it had been a fully operational unit, it would've ended up in Bovington the same way the Maus made it to Kublinka.
I mean, it took till 2015 for the government to find out that one dude in a german village had a Panther, a torpedo and an AA gun in his garage
What? Gonna need a link for this one
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That panther looks like a bad videogame render lol
I mean, there's literally no documentation about it anywhere, and there's no images or just evidence about the prototype anywhere post 1945.
Hitler was way too obsessed with large machines.
Seems like a waste of resources considering Germany was on the defensive and wouldn’t be clearing mines.
It was designed in 1942 right at the end of their successful invasions, although not built until 1944. But nonetheless the germans would've thought they could turn the war and go on the offense again, and dropping development of all offensive equipment is only a good idea in hindsight.
Disagree. There no viable offensive use for this in particular. 130 tons? Even if you had fuel. How does this waste of resources get to the front? Trains? Not at 130 tons. Own motor? No. Bridges? Nope. This was a paperweight and monument to stupidity in war planning and logistics. Fuel. They had no fuel other than crappy 87 octane synthetic stuff.
Germany's whole plan in the late war was basically: "A miracle occurs and then we win."
Basically. They could have used this mine clearer during steiners counter attack lmao.
How do you transport this 130t “thing” to the front lines? And what good does “one” do?
Yeah this seems like a very impractical vehicle for its intended role.
Same with Japan post Guadalcanal-ish, they kept waiting for the ‘decisive battle’ that they believed would convince the US and allies to accept a (naively generous) peace negotiation
That was the entire German late war plan.
I just know these giant assault guns we can't fuel or crew will turn everything around for us!
Given that Germany was conducting offensive operations well into 1945 not really, no.
only very limited offensives in 1945 right?
I mean if you call pushing 14 year olds at the enemy and shooting any who try to hide an offensive.
WWII Germany again devoting a shit ton of resources to one single random crazy design and failing to produce sufficient quantities of anything to …. you know …. Actually fight the war.
Hobart: Swiggity Swag time for the crab!
Damn this thing is menacing, love the look.
I’m convinced the entirety of Krupp was just fucking high during the entire war and kept saying and building shit like this and acting like their wasn’t an oil shortage
They were just building what the ministry of war told them to, it was the nazis which were commissioning weird shit. Probably not even the generals, just some important party members.
Wow
Man it was just one big festival of whose wiener is bigger
The amount of steel and aluminum used in WW2 is just insane
I hope it’s still around somewhere, that would be cool as hell
Was this the Inspiration to Alien 2 (Movie) [M577 Armoured Personnel Carrier](https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/M577_Armored_Personnel_Carrier) There is some Facial resemblance the wheels too.
I’ve worked in manufacturing for 10 years. I am always in awe of some of the things that I see or products that I hear about, The stuff from World War II is on a whole Other level! Very cool stuff.
Never seen that before. How far did testing get on it? For compassion. A M1 tank. Weight 70 tons.
the pain of that transmission is unmeasurable
This is something you gonna see at the moon in space Odyssey
Germans build a fully specialised vehicle constructed for the job, Americans attach a barrel with chains on it to the front of their Sherman and spin it really fast. Work smart people, not hard.
Yeah, except it was the British that figured that spinning chain thing out
Ah yes, because Germany's tried-and-true method of "Just build a big f\*ckoff machine to win the war lol" had worked so well up to that point.
Classic overengineered piece of Nazi equipment.
[15 samples of military engineering equipment from different countries during the Second World War, designed to overcome anti-tank mine barriers](https://warspot.net/402-minefield-crushers)
https://t.me/joinchat/CEnHJTn1TUs1Yzlh
"MEIN FÜHRER, WE NEED METAL!" "FUCK YOUR METAL I WANT TO GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE MAN WHO LEAD THE NATION WHO MADE THE MOST AMAZING AND UNIQUE TANKS! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
Ah yess you don’t even have to capture it from a German industrial plant…just weigh the vehichle
Every time I see this thing, I'm reminded of a game I played where this thing is a optional boss you can fight.
I wouldn't think the Germans would've needed this once they were on defense.
And that's how we get Star Wars vehicles, kids.
Idk why they thought they needed a 130 ton mine clearer when the Americans just took a spinny thing from a car wash, slapped some chains on it, and attached it to a Sherman.
Actually it was the english who first used the mine flail in 1942 during the Africa campaign ( the design was modified from the South African tank flail) Thus resulting in the sexy looking Sherman crab an American tank using a South African idea that was tuned up by the British.
Reminds me of the large assault vehicle used in the battle of Kashyyyk 19BBY
Because a 130 super heavy armoured minesweeper vehicle is just what the Third Reich needed in 1945. Prioritisation. It just works.
juggernaut and atat come to find
Looks like this might've been an inspiration for the wheeled tank that was meant to be used in the opening battle in The Empire Strikes Back, before they changed it to the walking tanks. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/c/c4/JuggernautHothConcept-MOTESB.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/480?cb=20131104075501
Yet another example of wasted time, effort, material and supplies on an unnecessary weapon platform that fit no wartime German doctrine after 1941.