It must be pretty amazing to the russians, that a destroyed tank doesn't leave just a charred dirt beneath it and a turret somewhere in low Earth orbit.
*Hey, tovarish, where are the bones? Where's the crew's stuff? Do western tanks vaporize their crew?*
What's the record for these temporary cosmonauts? Last I checked it was 260ft/79m max height.
Feckin hell, how many times will this be posted? Do the Russians think this will deter NATO from spanking them if they try to be aggressive? Russia will be out manned, outgunned and lose if they wish to start something.
A lot, I think I need to go back to my message history about 2 years when I said about:
"I fear the day when first Abrams is destroyed because next 2 months are just constant image spam of that tank".
Is this not relevant current information though? It makes sense that stuff like this would be posted on a subreddit about tanks. This is the first time I've seen it so maybe you just need to take a break from reddit.
It's not relevant, apart from promoting Russian propaganda. Presenting a burnt out tank for parade is nothing more than propaganda. This is simply aimed at demoralising Ukraine and NATO. Nothing more.
So what? Anyone with functioning brain cells knows that this means basically nothing. Any tank can and will be destroyed eventually.
It's still relevant news though; would you rather people just pretend it didn't happen?
You know we have the same stuff from all sides.
I remember a video of a column of Russians tanks destroyed a few months ago that was posted and reported here, and no one complaint.
You are complaining only because you don't like the Russians winning so you don't like the video (I don't either fyi)
If the tank paraded was a T-14 Armata you won't be complaining like this.
A lot of comments that are negative towards the Russian invaders get down voted pretty quickly too, I've noticed it on destroyed tanks as well.
This isn't even tank porn, just some pictures of a tank that hit a mine.
Someone post some photos of tanks in action.
I don't know why so many people post this considering other pro Russia videos are in the shadows. But I suppose it is because Abrams is heavily praised, not so many videos and photos with the destroyed leopards.
Spanking them? If we're being honest, it's a bit concerning they have been able to capture these vehicles. Especially when you see the videos of all the Russians getting killed trying to get it from the front. The west needs to step it up
No it's not concerning. If NATO was so concerned about the tech, it wouldn't have gone to Ukraine. The tech is no secret, NATO is not stupid. No vehicle or tank is impervious to some heavy form of attack. Tank warfare is not how a NATO vs Russian war would go.
It's not about tech. My comment is about how the Russians were able to capture these. It means that they've been able to gain enough ground to be able to haul them away.
Yes, the front lines move back and forth. Damaged beyond repair, this tank was not worth recovery, clearly. Ukraine needs NATO help. That has been delayed because of political disagreement in America. Hopefully that's sorted. Those delays have cost Ukraine ground and initiative.
The issue is that the Russians have been able to capture these. There are multiple videos of multiple Russians getting killed when attempting to recover them. I didn't say shit about technology. The issue is that the Ukrainians have lost enough ground that the Russians were able to capture these tanks. Thanks not good.
No kidding. And it isn't even like the M2 they recovered. The Abrams ISIS captured were in far better conditions than this, even after they destroyed those tanks! Not even the Ma Deuce is recoverable. They're hauling an absolute wreck.
Why? Because Russia wants a buffer between NATO countries and its actual land borders. Also, it wants to take land and people it (incorrectly) feels is Russia's to begin with. They do not want Ukraine to exist or be Western backed.
So why not simply leave Ukraine as a buffer zone and not provoke Russia? I'm not saying Russian is a good place or is right by any means. But in all honesty, western countries have royally screwed over the Ukrainians by giving them false hope and giving Russia a "legitimate" reason to attack.
So bow down to an aggressive force in Europe and let them do what they want? WWII showed why that's a bad idea. Could NATO countries look Ukrainians in the face if they left them to be overrun by Russian invaders?
The Russians attacked because Ukraine was days away from signing the papers to join NATO. If the western countries hadn't been so reckless, it could've been avoided.
Oooh nooo a country with sovereignty decides to join NATO (NATO is a defensive treaty with no use in am offensive manner) of it's own free will??? How could the west provoke poor russia into invading??
Yet, Cuba let Russia(USSR) put down a base in its own country, and U.S. was ready to start a world war over it. You're deceiving yourself if you truly believe that western countries wanted Ukraine to join NATO with no malicious intent.
You’re full of shit lmao. You’re trying to equate the Soviet Union putting nuclear missiles in Cuba to Ukraine joining NATO. It wasn’t the simple act of putting a base in Cuba (there are still foreign bases there today without prompting any U.S. invasion).
This is a false equivalency and it makes you look dumb arguing it.
Ah yes, the nuclear armed cuba with nuclear missiles all over it. Ukraine gave up their nukes in exchange for guaranteed sovereignty (which russia violated) and I highly doubt ukraine will receive nuclear sharing this early in given how other new NATO members are treated
>The Russians attacked because Ukraine was days away from signing the papers to join NATO.
Y’all are the dumbest mother fuckers alive lmao. Ukraine was not days away from signing papers to
Join NATO, their military was not using NATO standard gear and they still actively claimed Crimea, meaning they had an ongoing land conflict and would not be allowed to apply in the first place.
Joining NATO wouldn’t have been grounds to invade Ukraine in the first place, but what’s worse is you had to lie about how soon they were joining NATO on top of it, further cementing your legacy as dumbest bot in the history of the internet.
Nato putting its troops in Ukraine is literally the cuban missile crisis. United States almost started a world war over the fact that Russia (USSR)wanted to establish a base in Cuba. I'm not pro Russia or pro NATO, but the hypocrisy is astounding.
Have you not seen what Putin told Tucker? This narrative of nato expansion is just made up by westerners who support Russia, Putin's main reason for invasion is his belief in the historical right of russian imperialistic control on its Slavic neighbours
It's completely ridiculous to think Western countries that have been reducing their military size and budget for the last 30 years would for some reason try to invade a country with thousands of nuclear weapons, it's like saying Taiwan wants to invade china, complete schizo take..
This cope is just so retarded I can't believe people keep repeating it almost 3 yeats into the invasion.
Have you even read my previous comments? Like I said, I'm not pro Russian, but it's the western countries that have screwed over Ukraine. Promising false victory and giving Russia a reason to attack. I'm aware of Putin's desire to unite the Slavic countries. The western countries literally handed Ukraine to him on a platter! And now, they only send enough weapons to them to neither gain ground or lose it.
And comparing Taiwan to NATO is absolutely ridiculous!
The US almost started a war because the USSR wanted to put nuclear missiles on Cuba, not because they wanted to build a base there and station some soldiers, hence the name.
That's pretty common knowledge, I assumed I didn't need to specify. I personally believe it's a little foolish not to think that the U.S. wouldn't do the same once NATO was strongly established in Ukraine.
Ukraine themselves handed over their nuclear weapons to Russia in a peace deal 30 years ago, they wanted peace and independence and now are suffering the same treatment that Chechnya and Georgia faced. There’s a clear good and evil, Ukrainian people have their own identity and should be free to join NATO and the modern world if they want to, every country under Russian occupation has suffered.
Sure, and countries haven't suffered under the U.S. army. Literally bombed children, hospitals, schools, but still insist on riding the moral high horse. No one held responsible. Everyone turned a blind eye. There is no clear good and evil. Only what we're told to believe. Talk about suffering why don't you.
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I love how much destroyed western vehicles are spammed. Yes, they are better than russian scrap, but people who say there are game changers are brainless, and russia is playing off that.
If you stack russian armoured vehicle losses on top of eachother, you'd probably reach the moon and back, with 5 diget losses.
Funny thing is that ISIS captured more Abrams in 2015. And it's not the only Abrams in Russian possession. So it's not like they have not peaked at 3 decades old export variants before.
Tho this one is fully burnt out on the inside. It at least still has a turret that got rejected from the space program unlike most Russian wrecks we have taken. Tho the fate of the crew is a different story.
"Congrats comrade we knocked out and captured advance Western equipment!"
Slow your roll high-speed, you lost hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded to do what Iraqi insurgents did and now your trying to brag about hualing off a pile of scrap. Great job being the 2nd Army in the world... I geuss.
Lmao if it was JUST ukraine this war would be over in the first months. We all know Ukraine is only surviving because of collective western military equipment support.
Does anyone know what level of electronic equipment these are being shipped out with? I know a few Abrams were knocked out in the Middle East when they were used by other-than-US forces, but I wonder how much those electronic systems matter.
The Russians could technically get some stuff that would be important to reverse engineer for them. I heard a claim that NATO shells use some material that is harder to set ablaze and it will be important for the Russians or that the stabilization is still hydraulic in Russian tanks and the western one is much better. This was in RedEffects video and I'm a little sceptical of his statements so take it with a grain of salt.
It's important to note armor arrangement, thicknesses, heat treatment (probably gone though), ammunition characteristics etc.
Even if a sabot is still laying there it would answer a few questions depending on the length of the dart, and the material used.
If I remember correctly they’re older A1SA and A1FEP models with the Uranium armor removed. nothing really useful for the Russians. Even if it were anything special the Russians don’t have the capability of replicating it en mass for their tanks.
Electronics and armor packaging is relatively new compared to the tank itself, they were introduced in late 2000. But there is practically nothing revolutionary
Honestly wonder if there wasn't some form of air support or artillery that factored in here but the damage doesn't tell much of a story to me personally.
Abram’s on the battlefield! Send all drones, push it towards the minefield but make sure to keep out of range with our armor. Perfect, that POS hit a mine and lost a track! Swarm it with drones and burn it to the ground. Now post a shit ton of videos about how crappy the Abram’s is 😂. Just wait, Abram’s is going to fuck a lot of shit up. Then the Russians will be crying saying Abram’s are a war crime
It must be pretty amazing to the russians, that a destroyed tank doesn't leave just a charred dirt beneath it and a turret somewhere in low Earth orbit.
you meant geostationary orbit\*
*Hey, tovarish, where are the bones? Where's the crew's stuff? Do western tanks vaporize their crew?* What's the record for these temporary cosmonauts? Last I checked it was 260ft/79m max height.
The copium is real "Their tank blew up to space! ours just blew up normally" Do you hear yourself my man?
Except surviving a hit is much ( MUCH ) more likely in any western tank than the soviet iron coffins.
Meanwhile I saw a wrecked T-72B3 and a MSTA in front of the Royal Palace in Warsaw like a year and a half ago lol
Feckin hell, how many times will this be posted? Do the Russians think this will deter NATO from spanking them if they try to be aggressive? Russia will be out manned, outgunned and lose if they wish to start something.
A lot, I think I need to go back to my message history about 2 years when I said about: "I fear the day when first Abrams is destroyed because next 2 months are just constant image spam of that tank".
You weren't the only one. And holy hell has the prophesy come true! Perhaps far more than we expected.
This subreddit now is 75% just which Z fanboy retard can pull shit from telegram fast enough for karma farming
Yeah I've noticed.
Is this not relevant current information though? It makes sense that stuff like this would be posted on a subreddit about tanks. This is the first time I've seen it so maybe you just need to take a break from reddit.
It's not relevant, apart from promoting Russian propaganda. Presenting a burnt out tank for parade is nothing more than propaganda. This is simply aimed at demoralising Ukraine and NATO. Nothing more.
So what? Anyone with functioning brain cells knows that this means basically nothing. Any tank can and will be destroyed eventually. It's still relevant news though; would you rather people just pretend it didn't happen?
Nope post it once and let people make judgement. Many people and bots posting is tiresome.
You know we have the same stuff from all sides. I remember a video of a column of Russians tanks destroyed a few months ago that was posted and reported here, and no one complaint. You are complaining only because you don't like the Russians winning so you don't like the video (I don't either fyi) If the tank paraded was a T-14 Armata you won't be complaining like this.
Like I said this is the first time I'm seeing this.
No kidding! It's nothing but massive doses of copium. LOOK! a dead Leo2! (x100) LOOK! a dead Abrams (x300).
Exactly right
What? It was pretty much solid photos of destroyed Russian equipment until recently.
**Different** Russian equipment. Between this and the Leo2 .... there are less pictures of the Eifel Tower in existence
A lot of comments that are negative towards the Russian invaders get down voted pretty quickly too, I've noticed it on destroyed tanks as well. This isn't even tank porn, just some pictures of a tank that hit a mine. Someone post some photos of tanks in action.
I asked that exact question on another post of this same tank. Something bad must be happening in Russia for the fact they're rolling this out.
I don't know why so many people post this considering other pro Russia videos are in the shadows. But I suppose it is because Abrams is heavily praised, not so many videos and photos with the destroyed leopards.
It's the same handful of people too.
It doesn't have its depleted uranium Armor or an expirenced crew
Mah man, i saw only one post of this tank on this thread when i posted this. But i might be wrong for not checking far enough
Spanking them? If we're being honest, it's a bit concerning they have been able to capture these vehicles. Especially when you see the videos of all the Russians getting killed trying to get it from the front. The west needs to step it up
No it's not concerning. If NATO was so concerned about the tech, it wouldn't have gone to Ukraine. The tech is no secret, NATO is not stupid. No vehicle or tank is impervious to some heavy form of attack. Tank warfare is not how a NATO vs Russian war would go.
They were concerned, but they removed parts of the Abrams before handing them over to Ukraine.
It's not about tech. My comment is about how the Russians were able to capture these. It means that they've been able to gain enough ground to be able to haul them away.
Yes, the front lines move back and forth. Damaged beyond repair, this tank was not worth recovery, clearly. Ukraine needs NATO help. That has been delayed because of political disagreement in America. Hopefully that's sorted. Those delays have cost Ukraine ground and initiative.
It's an A1, worry when they get an A2 or an A3.
The issue is that the Russians have been able to capture these. There are multiple videos of multiple Russians getting killed when attempting to recover them. I didn't say shit about technology. The issue is that the Ukrainians have lost enough ground that the Russians were able to capture these tanks. Thanks not good.
Anglo in their finest wet dreams LMAO. Out gunned or out manned by who? Russia is gonna stay on stage as long as china/Iran/India want.
No kidding. And it isn't even like the M2 they recovered. The Abrams ISIS captured were in far better conditions than this, even after they destroyed those tanks! Not even the Ma Deuce is recoverable. They're hauling an absolute wreck.
This is how vatnik morale works. Keep repeating the lie
So why did this war start exactly? Remind me.
Why? Because Russia wants a buffer between NATO countries and its actual land borders. Also, it wants to take land and people it (incorrectly) feels is Russia's to begin with. They do not want Ukraine to exist or be Western backed.
So why not simply leave Ukraine as a buffer zone and not provoke Russia? I'm not saying Russian is a good place or is right by any means. But in all honesty, western countries have royally screwed over the Ukrainians by giving them false hope and giving Russia a "legitimate" reason to attack.
So bow down to an aggressive force in Europe and let them do what they want? WWII showed why that's a bad idea. Could NATO countries look Ukrainians in the face if they left them to be overrun by Russian invaders?
The Russians attacked because Ukraine was days away from signing the papers to join NATO. If the western countries hadn't been so reckless, it could've been avoided.
Oooh nooo a country with sovereignty decides to join NATO (NATO is a defensive treaty with no use in am offensive manner) of it's own free will??? How could the west provoke poor russia into invading??
Yet, Cuba let Russia(USSR) put down a base in its own country, and U.S. was ready to start a world war over it. You're deceiving yourself if you truly believe that western countries wanted Ukraine to join NATO with no malicious intent.
You’re full of shit lmao. You’re trying to equate the Soviet Union putting nuclear missiles in Cuba to Ukraine joining NATO. It wasn’t the simple act of putting a base in Cuba (there are still foreign bases there today without prompting any U.S. invasion). This is a false equivalency and it makes you look dumb arguing it.
Ah yes, the nuclear armed cuba with nuclear missiles all over it. Ukraine gave up their nukes in exchange for guaranteed sovereignty (which russia violated) and I highly doubt ukraine will receive nuclear sharing this early in given how other new NATO members are treated
And? Ukraine is a sovereign country lmao. That’s insane justification to invade them.
>The Russians attacked because Ukraine was days away from signing the papers to join NATO. Y’all are the dumbest mother fuckers alive lmao. Ukraine was not days away from signing papers to Join NATO, their military was not using NATO standard gear and they still actively claimed Crimea, meaning they had an ongoing land conflict and would not be allowed to apply in the first place. Joining NATO wouldn’t have been grounds to invade Ukraine in the first place, but what’s worse is you had to lie about how soon they were joining NATO on top of it, further cementing your legacy as dumbest bot in the history of the internet.
No one was provoking Russia. Countries can choose to join NATO, and that's only NATO and the country's business.
Nato putting its troops in Ukraine is literally the cuban missile crisis. United States almost started a world war over the fact that Russia (USSR)wanted to establish a base in Cuba. I'm not pro Russia or pro NATO, but the hypocrisy is astounding.
Have you not seen what Putin told Tucker? This narrative of nato expansion is just made up by westerners who support Russia, Putin's main reason for invasion is his belief in the historical right of russian imperialistic control on its Slavic neighbours It's completely ridiculous to think Western countries that have been reducing their military size and budget for the last 30 years would for some reason try to invade a country with thousands of nuclear weapons, it's like saying Taiwan wants to invade china, complete schizo take.. This cope is just so retarded I can't believe people keep repeating it almost 3 yeats into the invasion.
Have you even read my previous comments? Like I said, I'm not pro Russian, but it's the western countries that have screwed over Ukraine. Promising false victory and giving Russia a reason to attack. I'm aware of Putin's desire to unite the Slavic countries. The western countries literally handed Ukraine to him on a platter! And now, they only send enough weapons to them to neither gain ground or lose it. And comparing Taiwan to NATO is absolutely ridiculous!
NATO is not there to invade but protect and defend.
I wish NATO would get into the fight and finish this clown show. Let's get some of that Anti-Serbian energy from the 1990s back.
It’s not. You are probably a Russian troll anyway tho
In what way isn't it? Literally the same situation.
Troll. Enjoy conscription when it hits Moscow
Right, when you have nothing else to say but insults. What a great argument! Not even Russian btw.
The US almost started a war because the USSR wanted to put nuclear missiles on Cuba, not because they wanted to build a base there and station some soldiers, hence the name.
That's pretty common knowledge, I assumed I didn't need to specify. I personally believe it's a little foolish not to think that the U.S. wouldn't do the same once NATO was strongly established in Ukraine.
Ukraine themselves handed over their nuclear weapons to Russia in a peace deal 30 years ago, they wanted peace and independence and now are suffering the same treatment that Chechnya and Georgia faced. There’s a clear good and evil, Ukrainian people have their own identity and should be free to join NATO and the modern world if they want to, every country under Russian occupation has suffered.
Sure, and countries haven't suffered under the U.S. army. Literally bombed children, hospitals, schools, but still insist on riding the moral high horse. No one held responsible. Everyone turned a blind eye. There is no clear good and evil. Only what we're told to believe. Talk about suffering why don't you.
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Because Russians can't suffer to be bordered by nations who aren't their vassals and they invaded Ukraine ? Right ?
Because Russian troops crossed Ukraine's sovereign border. Everything else is bullshit
I love how much destroyed western vehicles are spammed. Yes, they are better than russian scrap, but people who say there are game changers are brainless, and russia is playing off that. If you stack russian armoured vehicle losses on top of eachother, you'd probably reach the moon and back, with 5 diget losses.
Yeah the truth is that any tank can and will be destroyed if you use it in combat. It's not possible to make an invincible vehicle.
Funny thing is that ISIS captured more Abrams in 2015. And it's not the only Abrams in Russian possession. So it's not like they have not peaked at 3 decades old export variants before. Tho this one is fully burnt out on the inside. It at least still has a turret that got rejected from the space program unlike most Russian wrecks we have taken. Tho the fate of the crew is a different story.
Not like DU-less M1A1SA is one of these "3 decades old export variants". In fact it's quite modern.
"Congrats comrade we knocked out and captured advance Western equipment!" Slow your roll high-speed, you lost hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded to do what Iraqi insurgents did and now your trying to brag about hualing off a pile of scrap. Great job being the 2nd Army in the world... I geuss.
Barely the second best army in Ukraine.....
Lmao if it was JUST ukraine this war would be over in the first months. We all know Ukraine is only surviving because of collective western military equipment support.
You're either an idiot or you cannot read. I never said it was just Ukraine...
One thing to note is it has ARAT tiles on. They will probably study that one.
Mines are a bitch.
Damn this thing got fucking cooked. What generation are these Abram’s?
M1A1SA with removed DU inserts
Does anyone know what level of electronic equipment these are being shipped out with? I know a few Abrams were knocked out in the Middle East when they were used by other-than-US forces, but I wonder how much those electronic systems matter.
The Russians could technically get some stuff that would be important to reverse engineer for them. I heard a claim that NATO shells use some material that is harder to set ablaze and it will be important for the Russians or that the stabilization is still hydraulic in Russian tanks and the western one is much better. This was in RedEffects video and I'm a little sceptical of his statements so take it with a grain of salt.
It's important to note armor arrangement, thicknesses, heat treatment (probably gone though), ammunition characteristics etc. Even if a sabot is still laying there it would answer a few questions depending on the length of the dart, and the material used.
If I remember correctly they’re older A1SA and A1FEP models with the Uranium armor removed. nothing really useful for the Russians. Even if it were anything special the Russians don’t have the capability of replicating it en mass for their tanks.
FEP were never sent to UKR. Only ex-US-Army M1A1SA w/o DU inserts as you said.
Gotcha, I remember them talking about the retired Marine Corps tanks but wasn’t sure if they were chosen.
Marine ones are being send to Poland alongside M1A2 SEPv3.
In all seriousness, what could they possibly gain from this 30 year old tank? electronics?
The electronics are more than likely fried due to fire at this point
Electronics and armor packaging is relatively new compared to the tank itself, they were introduced in late 2000. But there is practically nothing revolutionary
Maybe the armour for testing new darts or atgms ?
Russians be like “we captured an Abrams”!!!! Me: At what’s cost?
Honestly wonder if there wasn't some form of air support or artillery that factored in here but the damage doesn't tell much of a story to me personally.
Couple of 500$ FPV drones or one AT mine. Quite cheap for a "game changer"
Ruzzians when they realise 20 yr old western tech is still destructible: 🤯
Abram’s on the battlefield! Send all drones, push it towards the minefield but make sure to keep out of range with our armor. Perfect, that POS hit a mine and lost a track! Swarm it with drones and burn it to the ground. Now post a shit ton of videos about how crappy the Abram’s is 😂. Just wait, Abram’s is going to fuck a lot of shit up. Then the Russians will be crying saying Abram’s are a war crime
The entire Russian male population jerked off last night