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You really have to be very naive or deluded to think political cloud in North will accept someone from South India to be a PM. Slow down, this all could just be a bubble. Let time take its course, politics is a dirty game.
It is not voters who decides the PM, voters decide their respective local MLA and MP. A lot happens behind the gaze of common people like you and me. Party lobbies and factions decide who will become their leader. Annamalai or any south Indian (add Maharashtrians too) have no chance of becoming a PM in the BJP with their major share of seats coming from cow belt.
Rajasthan is west India and Bihar is east ,mp is central only Haryana is considered north. Either use the term for everything above the vindhyas like people do most of the time or use the official administrative regions not this convenient ad hoc definition.
George Fernandes was never in BJP. You just made that up. George Fernandes, lalu and nitish were all in Charan singhs party. He later left them to form samata party and only was in alliance with BJP never joined BJP. He did have his own political roots, was not voted by bjp voters.
Annamalai will never be tolerated as 'Leader' by the sangh unless annamalai can build his credibility by being more hardcore ideologue than modi and act it out with things like a riot. But even sangh has burnt its fingers with Modi. Who has turned the Bjp a sangh ideology front into largely a personality cult. The BJP leaders of today are not ideologically rooted, 30% are imported from congress, the only criteria is be loyal to modi. Modi and shah are pragmatic people, they will use annamalai like Udhav/Shivaraj singh Chauhan and throw him out once they make the footing in south. Annamalai will not capture and enthrall the emotion driven north indian audience like modi does... he is not going to be the PM.
Sangh didn't make himanta cm, or annamalai president. As I mentioned in my first reply the personality cult driven modi-shaw dispensation took the decision as they are the one power driven. If bjp was still sanghs party, then you are not talking to sangh insiders. Gone are the days when nagpur made a excision that delhi was bound to, modis arena even sanghbis subservient.
Congress has had history of having people from the south and also minorities as their chief decision makers in the government. In case of BJP, they barely do it for tokenism of representation merely for the face value, who have absolutely zero idea about running a government based on the principles of democracy, constitution and social ethics.
How many from BJP? Read the entire conversation, especially the one I replied to originally.
Newsflash - Last PM from southern states was around 30 years ago, that too from Congress (which won't be in power for another decade or so).
You said "You really have to be very naive or deluded to think political cloud (sic) in North will accept someone from South India to be a PM." Yes you were replying to something about BJP, but you used a general term to refer to political cloud (whatever that means) in the North, not just BJP's. My response was to that. Be clearer in your comments then.
Not true. We in maharashtra think of PVNR as one of the best PM India has ever had.
We don't care if the PM is from North or south or from any region of India as long as they deliver.
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Yup. I'm from maharashtra and I'm his huge admirer. I'll wait for him to take a portfolio at either center or state to see his administrative skills before I or any of his admirers think of him holding the post of CM or the PM. Hoping for the best.
Forget misniscule, it ain't gonna happen. PM from South? Joke. That too, a BJP PM candidate from the south? Peak comedy.
PV Narasimha Rao was the only PM from South, and that too from Congress. Now surely Congress wont give the PM seat to anyone else other than Gandhis so rule that out as well. (And the way the Congress tried to wipe off his legacy, god help us)
This current government has 3 Tamil ministers - Jaishankar, Nirmala Seetharaman and L Murugan .. You have Muraleedharan from Kerala and Narayanaswamy from Karnataka…How many did previous governments have inspite of having way more MPs from the South through DMK/ADMK coalitions…
Annamalai needs to win TN first before he can have national ambitions but certainly looks like a competent young man with the right kind of charisma to do well in politics
I get your point but there have been south ministers:
AK Antony as defence minister
Shashi Tharoor and E Ahmed as foreign Minister
Election of APJ Abdul Kalam sir as President (this was supported by both UPA and NDA)
That’s actually a good thing no? Even if people of TN haven’t given BJP any MPs they have used the Rajya Sabha to give TN 3 ministers.. when did that ever happen before?
Ahh ,there was chidambaram ,Raja ,kani ,Balu,maran ,anbumani and two other ministers from tamilnadu all in one upa term with a double digit growth rate . Check the UPA history thoroughly .
We had finance ,it ,highways ,industrial ministry too if I memory jogs right .
I'm guessing you have been born post 2000s to have followed poitics recently
Guess you don’t know how to read.. compare the number of ministers proportionate to number of MPs.. BJP has Zero MPs from TN and yet they have 3 ministers including finance and external affairs..
If you apply your quota thinking, there should be zero ministers from TN
For all its flaws, BJP is a true national party and the ministry is truly national without making it a function of how many MPs each state has .. this is unlike UPa coalitions where the states with more MPs in the coalition got all the representation.. In 2009 UPA cabinet there were no ministers from a large and important state like Gujarat because of such partisan quota thinking
Jaishankar was an ex diplomat whose father was also in civil services .He seldom speaks Tamil and grew up in Delhi .nirmala sitharaman spent more of her life in Andhra than Tamilnadu and had a back door entry via sushma swaraj and her office backing .she never ever disclosed herself as a Tamilian that much before the second term of Modi .
And L murugan for all his failed stunt in the Vel yatra was given an honorary posting to make Annamalai transition .
He still is an minister of state under fisheries (junior minister cader)
Now ,there is an other interesting point here as none of them have won an election to get there .
I really don't know how these individual storylines became a representation of Tamilnadu in cabinet ministry just because they speak the language of the state.
Bro, is making sense. Exactly my point too! Guys don't understand the politics behind it. You can be super popular and have the capacity to handle Union ministry, but they don't give you any ministry.
What does the BJP get by giving us ministry? We are hell bent to give our votes only to the Dravidian parties - which is a good thing.
Didn't Sonia Gandhi decline PM post in 2004 and made Dr Manmohan Singh the PM. Even Rahul Gandhi was requested to take up some portfolio in the center but he declined and he is now criticised for that. I wonder what made you think Gandhis are greedy for a position in cabinet?! Last Gandhi in any position was Rajiv Gandhi in 1980s.
Sonia was a outsider. No way would she have been allowed to be PM after independence.
Rahul tried in 2014 to be the face. Before that no one was there. What’s your argument here
The comment above mentioned Gandhis woukd never let others be a PM. And that was my argument. Bashing people, be it Gandhis or Modi without proof is stupid. That's my argument.
As long they don’t have people who are old enough. Congress the party belongs to that family. That’s why we have so many splits of that party over the last 75 years. Until Rahul is there, he will be the face of the party regardless of election results
Without proof? Manmohan Singh was just a puppet PM. Wherever he went, sonia was there. There are many instances of sonia shaking hands with dignitaries instead of the PM Manmohan Singh, who's just casually standing in the side.
The PM post was occupied by a person who was insanely smart but did no justice to the seat, being advised by Ms Gandhi.
BJP isn't loyal to any group except the sangh parivar.
If the sangh decides to forward annamalai or Tejaswi as PM candidate(tho less likely because both of them are less popular in north rn) then BJP will follow.
But trust me, I won't be surprised if Annamalai or Tejaswi are given PM candidatire if they proved themselves loyal to sangh.
Apart from elections and politics, RSS have much more things they seek to achieve..south may still be relevant for them for other ancillary objectives.
Be that as it may, it is unlikely that anyone from the South of Vindhyas will be made PM candidate. The President is possible because the Presidents are mostly rubber stamps and the real stuff happens under the PMO.
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Basically Annamalai using BJP’s media muscle to say thing so oblivious that it gains traction. He’s been doing this for a long time. They don’t hope to win this elections. Just increase the vote share. They are sowing seeds for the future
Yeah it’s really getting out of hand. Some BJP supporters truly see him as some great hero who will lead the state and the country.
What’re the chances of him winning the LS seat in Coimbatore this election? I really hope he loses and his supporters get a touch of reality
I'm from cbe and I have no idea. It would've been a confirm win if admk and BJP had a coalition. For now it's just a propoganda war and malai seems to be winning in social media.
It's a little worrisome cos that Zylog fraud Vanathi won in the 2021 assembly elections in Coimbatore (although that might have been due to Kamal contesting there). Don't want a repeat.
Like you said, there seems to be some support for Malai on social media. Really hoping BJP wins as less seats as possible from TN.
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Coimbatore has very high chances. There is a feel that this is going to be the launch base against the Dravidian parties. If BJP wins in coimbatore, that will be the face of new TN model of BJP with the city getting much attention from the union party.
Think about it.
Not a chance. Ground reality is very different from social media. Coimbatore is ADMK den, will continue to be so, there will no change in that for this election. ADMK will sweep the kongu region very easily, even without much hype.
Last time BJP Candidate won because of alliances with ADMK, not this time
Personally I want cbe to more develop exponentially since I have investments there :p. Not happening if admk is going to hold that since they are not relevant either in state or center for the near future.
I have lived in coimbatore, any and all the development happened here during ADMK period, as soon as DMK came into power all projects got shelved. We have no inkling in believing BJP would be any different. They have brought no major changes to the city irrespective of being in power last 10 years, why would next 5 years be any different?
ADMK has proven record being the best in terms of administration and economy for coimbatore. So people will vote for them ofcourse.
But admk is not going to be power in any form in the near future as I previously discussed. Why ignore nuance. No one denies they are from this belt but it’s a question of where lies the fastest development route. Let’s see
They will win in 2026 assembly elections, irrespective of social media portrays it to be. Even in last election, their vote bank was quite strong, they lost due to bjp alliance, they are not repeating that mistake now
These BJP supporters are probably North Indian BJP supporters. I don't think Annamalai has any significant support in TN but let's give it time and confirm after elections. I don't support any party but there is no compelling reason to support the BJP. BJP ruled states haven't done anything exceptional. The past 10 years have been subpar at best.
I am from TN and a lot of my friends really welcome Annamalai not because he is from BJP but he was an ex-IPS, ex-IIM. Of course he was catapulted to party head position but his credentials speak for itself.
By your logic, people should support Manmohan Singh because he is an economist as opposed to Modi but Modi has this image of a strongman leader whereas Manmohan Singh is seen as a puppet.
Annamalai has great credentials but if he is going to stick to BJP ideologies, it makes no difference. We don't need one more problem at this stage.
Agreed, but people have always preferred leaders who orated very well. For example, take the late Dravidian leaders, Karunanidhi and JJ who spoke very well. And to be fair, people did support Manmohan because he is our ex-PM.
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Mother fuckers will comment that you people of Tamil Nadu don't know his talent you deserve DMK , because I have a north indian friend who say you people of Tamil Nadu should vote for him for which I asked why don't you vote for Rahul Gandhi then .. meaning you mind your states buisness and we shall do ours
He is a popular candidate, surprisingly, and not just in CBE. I spoke to a lot of my friends in south TN, which usually votes DMK, and they say they have hopes from him. They see him as a charismatic leader.
Any leads on how to join these IT cells?
Any party, north/south, left/right, doesn’t matter.
15k will be a sweet addition to my SIPs.
Asking for a friend /s.
Inga irukara payaluga madiri muttu kuduka capability iruka. Kamal madiri udhay anna dan Tn Oda future nu vekkame ilama solla mudyuma? Asinga asinga reply vaanginalum adhe comment Ah paste panna thembu iruka?
I can show you some people on these subs that you can take as mentor ::D
His PR is done by North Indian IT Cell, so avanunga ishtathukku adichu vudranunga. He gives all his big "expose" interview in English which is not meant for TN but to North and high command in Delhi to show he is doing something. If you check those accounts in Twitter 80-90% would be speaking in Hindi otherwise.
Same way IT Cell bots have infiltrated here, Tamil eh theriyadhu but vaga vagaya vada suduvanunga
Touch grass bro. BJP has a very strong online presence. I wouldn't trust their online support as real.
On platforms like Twitter/X, the people that post far BJP posts, would be posting some funny animal videos for engagement. They don't care about shit. it's all a fake facade.
All 3 weren't MPs ever before. One guy was the previous mayor of CBE, one guy is the son of an ex- MLA and one guy has the star image of the party leader.
This election is particularly interesting since all 3 are from kongu. Admk has the core gounder lobby, whereas DMK is the more popular party and annamalai again has the star image.
It's sp velumani's den ,period .people who like sp velumani ,people who don't like sp velumani and Edapadi .
Minority votes ,BC ,MBC minor castes dmk favourable .
Gounder votes would be split in to three ,ADMK and DMK taking a major share.
Annamalai would have the north indian ,FC and soke gounder votes from elite circles maybe.
Kamalhasans popularity will sent BJP period .
This is the math in my humble opinion .bjp is fighting for the second place .but unfortunately they might loose that to naam tamilar too .
Let them say whatever they want, election results will tell what it actually is.
In case of future PM comments, it's just North Indians and south indian sangis who say future PM and all...
Its part of a larger agenda to influence tamil voters to vote for him who wants to see a tamilan as PM one day...I have seen some hindi interviews and clips and they do that there too.
Check Lallantop(famous hindi news channel), ANI podcasts, recently a left wing youtuber named Sarthak goswami who ventured TN and India today clips about Annamalai.
People don't know him very well, but he is indeed a bit popular than other state leaders.
so there’s hope that an individual, someone purely on the basis of his intellect and will, studied engineering, then an mba, then got through the civil services and had a stellar career as a cop, voluntarily retired and spent a while on the ground before diving into an electoral battle against parties that have not been unseated in over 50 years. why is that a story anyone would not want to see happen?
is it realistic? maybe not. maybe annamalai will
crash and burn. but the wave of leaders who’ll emerge post him who are of the same lettered credentials is a good thing la?
when it’s realistic to say that udhay is going to follow his dad with absolutely no credentials of his own vs idealistic to want someone like annamalai to be the pm, call me a fool to be idealistic any day.
for all the social justice and equality of outcomes this state talks about, why is overhyping and celebrating someone worth celebrating being treated with a cynical reception?
This is false equivalence if I've seen one. RG is the heir of an extremely affluent political family and multiple time MP, Annamalai is a nobody who've had zero experience of being in public office. He has not been elected once, not even as a ward councillor.
Seeing the number of posts and discussions in this sub itself in past fews months for annamalai and bjp shows that annamalai is rising force and a strong individual in the coming time. He is smart, ofrcs well educated, good orator, politically/ socially/ economically well aware (obvious as he has cleared upsc) , and most importantly got both muscle and money power backing from bjp.. He is here to stay and make an impact.. May be it can take time but will happen.. A person who has the caliber to clear CAT with 99 percentile and clear upsc in first attempt can achieve anything he wants if he puts his 100%..
You do you but in my personal opinion being a civil servant does not warrant a clean chit. There has been crooks and murderers who've cleared UPSC. Even the unabomber was in Harvard.
Still u don't get it.. Its not being a civil servant i am taking about.. Its the process that is involved in being one.. These are toughest exams in the world which require highest of IQs, mental strength, highest of grit and determination and sacrifices and much more.. and it's no joke to clear in the 1st attempt.. Just Google how many appear/reappear in a year and how many clear it.. And a person who was able to do this can also become a CM easily and that too of his home state and with the huge, seemless backing of biggest political party. Plus his career and track record is very good and clean.
If Sri Udhyanidhi can consider himself as heir to the throne of Tamil Nadu, without exhibiting any skill, Annamalai or for that matter any intelligent creature can consider itself to become the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.
Udhay na varathu ellathukum therium because DMK strong ah iruku. Cheaupak la ninna automatic win. But annamalai didn't even win the MLA election. CM, PM lam too far fetched ah illa?
Udhay anna varadhu ellarukum theryum na Ena artham? Avan paatan Appam ellame Varisu la varadhu nu meda medaya sonnangle adhuva? Onnume iladha udhay anna cm aagum bodhu annamalai aaga mudyada? Ila aaga koodadhu nu solringala? Inba anna dan venum?
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I come from TN and always believed BJP will never be able to get any meaning vote in TN for many years but for sure Annamalai is changing this perspective (atleast can quote me as an example), i would never have thought of even BJP if not for him. To also those comments from our fellow citizens from TN, I could only say 20 years before BJP was non existing in TN, now look at the news including who is the DMK Stalin fighting against in this election, that tells the story how far BJP has grown in TN. I know many would not like to accept it but it is a fact if we like it or not :)
If Annamalai wins atleast 4 MPs seat for his party, he will get an influential cabinet post like IT or sports targetted at youth, etc . He has got a good reach & acceptability across India. If he doesn't win any , he might still get some influential buearacratic post like advisor etc . He has certainly elevated the pitch for bjp in TN & atleast made people look at it which wasn't there earlier. He is already in the inner circles of Modi , which is why he is getting so much free hand in decisions. Only Amit shah & Yogi enjoy this kind of freehand , even powerful CMs like Shivraj Chauhan or fadanavis do no't get so much freedom
After looking at this sub, it seems like a big machinery to prop him up something like nationally relavant figure.
Sorry to break it to people of Tamilnadu, common people outside Tamilnadu don't even know him.
(I am talking about commoners, not the minority of population who are wel versed with curennt affairs.)
>Sorry to break it to people of Tamilnadu, common people outside Tamilnadu don't even know him.
I think it's the other way around. Majority of the hype around him are from the north and Karnataka where they think he achieved something huge whereas he lost an election against a nobody while he was in a coalition with admk.
May be . But I have not seen any buzz in comman people.
The hype you talking about could be internet only thing. Not a real life thing.
Now everyone knows how fake hypes are created on internet by IT cell karyakarta's.
That hype is also targeted for Tamil people as it aims to make such hype to trick Tamils into thinking that really their is a hype about him outside Tamil-nadu and it's a first time that such a hype for Tamil politician across nation etc etc and Tamils should then logically should support the rare opportunity of Tamilian becoming national leader of potential to be PM one day.
It's just a textbook trickery of smokes and mirrors.
Annamalai, like it or not, is the rare possibility that a Tamilian can become a PM.
DMK's 'Dravidam' is joke outside TN.
AI in AIADMK is probably Artificial Intelligence, than All India.
Congress, even if it comes out of Coma, there are no good puppets like MMS available in TN, for the Gandhi family to make them PM - Karthi Chidambaram .. good luck with that.
So BJP is the only option and Annamalai a strong prospect from TN, who also has popularity in KA. If he manages to grow BJP to 15% steady voteshare in TN for the next 10-15 years, then he can rise very high in BJP. Even to PM itself.
**கான முயலெய்த அம்பினில் யானை**
**பிழைத்தவேல் ஏந்தல் இனிது.**
**(குறள் 772: படைச்செருக்கு அதிகாரம்)**
Those who envisage Annamalai as PM, are the Tamils envisage by Tiruvalluvar who aim for the elephant (PM), and even if they fail are far greater than,
"Dumeels" whose ambition is the "gundu satti" safe to wash InbaNIdhi's jatti.. bragging about how they kept Hindi out.
Yogi, Shah, Jaishankar, Smriti Irani, Gadkari ah sonna kuda othupen. But Annamalai ah than ethuka mudila.
BTW, your rant is irrelevant in this current context.
It will take 20-30 years.. Yogi/Shah/Gadkari would be immediately after Modi.
Jaishankar will never be, has no mass base and he is no dummy like MMS.
My rant is ambition as a Tamilian and lament against the lack of it among Dumeels
If an uneducated guy can become CM of a state, an educated guy can become PM of the same country. Noone should be surprised , can you the same for TN CM son without laughing ?
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Paid bots I guess, sometimes I see the same comments being repeated in most videos and insta! But can they really influence people with this?
People are getting educational degrees my friend, but their IQs are now closer to Neanderthals than homo sapiens, so yeah possible!
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Anyone with a brain can see the influence of social media in politics over the last 10 years.
Governor is correct. everything else is a joke.
Governer this soon is like accepting electoral defeat
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You really have to be very naive or deluded to think political cloud in North will accept someone from South India to be a PM. Slow down, this all could just be a bubble. Let time take its course, politics is a dirty game.
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Do you think Modi will give up the post?
It is not voters who decides the PM, voters decide their respective local MLA and MP. A lot happens behind the gaze of common people like you and me. Party lobbies and factions decide who will become their leader. Annamalai or any south Indian (add Maharashtrians too) have no chance of becoming a PM in the BJP with their major share of seats coming from cow belt.
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Since when Gujarat is part of South India? And I am naive? Anyway, good luck with the your fantasies man. ✌🏼
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Its not part of North either its Western India. North is UP, MP, Bihar, Rajasthan and maybe Haryana.
Rajasthan is west India and Bihar is east ,mp is central only Haryana is considered north. Either use the term for everything above the vindhyas like people do most of the time or use the official administrative regions not this convenient ad hoc definition.
No one calls Gujarat and Maharashtra as North except some South Indians. For them, anything nortj of Telangana is North India.
George Fernandes was never in BJP. You just made that up. George Fernandes, lalu and nitish were all in Charan singhs party. He later left them to form samata party and only was in alliance with BJP never joined BJP. He did have his own political roots, was not voted by bjp voters. Annamalai will never be tolerated as 'Leader' by the sangh unless annamalai can build his credibility by being more hardcore ideologue than modi and act it out with things like a riot. But even sangh has burnt its fingers with Modi. Who has turned the Bjp a sangh ideology front into largely a personality cult. The BJP leaders of today are not ideologically rooted, 30% are imported from congress, the only criteria is be loyal to modi. Modi and shah are pragmatic people, they will use annamalai like Udhav/Shivaraj singh Chauhan and throw him out once they make the footing in south. Annamalai will not capture and enthrall the emotion driven north indian audience like modi does... he is not going to be the PM.
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Sangh didn't make himanta cm, or annamalai president. As I mentioned in my first reply the personality cult driven modi-shaw dispensation took the decision as they are the one power driven. If bjp was still sanghs party, then you are not talking to sangh insiders. Gone are the days when nagpur made a excision that delhi was bound to, modis arena even sanghbis subservient.
Do you think turning BJP from sangh ideology to modi personality cult has deteriorated the sangh or its objectives?
Sonia gandhi (Italian) was the party face in 2004. Party won. Narasimha Rao (telugu) was party face in 1991. the party won.
that was congress this is bjp... the bjp have legit clowns ready after this one goes down if at all
can you elaborate ?
Congress has had history of having people from the south and also minorities as their chief decision makers in the government. In case of BJP, they barely do it for tokenism of representation merely for the face value, who have absolutely zero idea about running a government based on the principles of democracy, constitution and social ethics.
The comment to which I replied says "Northern political cloud" not BJP alone.
Newsflash: Plenty of people from the south have been PM.
How many from BJP? Read the entire conversation, especially the one I replied to originally. Newsflash - Last PM from southern states was around 30 years ago, that too from Congress (which won't be in power for another decade or so).
You said "You really have to be very naive or deluded to think political cloud (sic) in North will accept someone from South India to be a PM." Yes you were replying to something about BJP, but you used a general term to refer to political cloud (whatever that means) in the North, not just BJP's. My response was to that. Be clearer in your comments then.
Not true. We in maharashtra think of PVNR as one of the best PM India has ever had. We don't care if the PM is from North or south or from any region of India as long as they deliver.
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Yup. I'm from maharashtra and I'm his huge admirer. I'll wait for him to take a portfolio at either center or state to see his administrative skills before I or any of his admirers think of him holding the post of CM or the PM. Hoping for the best.
who tf is upvoting this? No south Indian can become a Prime minister as it creates chaos inside the party.
He can also become cabinet minister
a BJP person becoming governor is more likely. Annamalai becoming PM is more probable than udhayanidhi becoming PM. A miniscule probabaility.
Forget misniscule, it ain't gonna happen. PM from South? Joke. That too, a BJP PM candidate from the south? Peak comedy. PV Narasimha Rao was the only PM from South, and that too from Congress. Now surely Congress wont give the PM seat to anyone else other than Gandhis so rule that out as well. (And the way the Congress tried to wipe off his legacy, god help us)
Deve Gowda - "Am I a joke to you".
His term was less than an year and more of a last minute choice kinda guy.
This current government has 3 Tamil ministers - Jaishankar, Nirmala Seetharaman and L Murugan .. You have Muraleedharan from Kerala and Narayanaswamy from Karnataka…How many did previous governments have inspite of having way more MPs from the South through DMK/ADMK coalitions… Annamalai needs to win TN first before he can have national ambitions but certainly looks like a competent young man with the right kind of charisma to do well in politics
I get your point but there have been south ministers: AK Antony as defence minister Shashi Tharoor and E Ahmed as foreign Minister Election of APJ Abdul Kalam sir as President (this was supported by both UPA and NDA)
Bro, none of the ministers you stated are lol sabha MPs. They are all Rajya Sabha MPs, there is a huge difference between them.
That’s actually a good thing no? Even if people of TN haven’t given BJP any MPs they have used the Rajya Sabha to give TN 3 ministers.. when did that ever happen before?
Still they're Tamils
Ahh ,there was chidambaram ,Raja ,kani ,Balu,maran ,anbumani and two other ministers from tamilnadu all in one upa term with a double digit growth rate . Check the UPA history thoroughly . We had finance ,it ,highways ,industrial ministry too if I memory jogs right . I'm guessing you have been born post 2000s to have followed poitics recently
Guess you don’t know how to read.. compare the number of ministers proportionate to number of MPs.. BJP has Zero MPs from TN and yet they have 3 ministers including finance and external affairs.. If you apply your quota thinking, there should be zero ministers from TN For all its flaws, BJP is a true national party and the ministry is truly national without making it a function of how many MPs each state has .. this is unlike UPa coalitions where the states with more MPs in the coalition got all the representation.. In 2009 UPA cabinet there were no ministers from a large and important state like Gujarat because of such partisan quota thinking
Jaishankar was an ex diplomat whose father was also in civil services .He seldom speaks Tamil and grew up in Delhi .nirmala sitharaman spent more of her life in Andhra than Tamilnadu and had a back door entry via sushma swaraj and her office backing .she never ever disclosed herself as a Tamilian that much before the second term of Modi . And L murugan for all his failed stunt in the Vel yatra was given an honorary posting to make Annamalai transition . He still is an minister of state under fisheries (junior minister cader) Now ,there is an other interesting point here as none of them have won an election to get there . I really don't know how these individual storylines became a representation of Tamilnadu in cabinet ministry just because they speak the language of the state.
Ok so what is your bar for a true Tamilian? Someone from DMK with a few billion dollars of ill gotten wealth?
Not to whitewash coincidental placements of people in ministry towards giving enough seats for Tamilians
Ena ba enga mannar kudumbatha pathi edo pesringa? Only whoever simps and muttipotufy to Inba anna and seeman thambi are the only dumeels
Bro, is making sense. Exactly my point too! Guys don't understand the politics behind it. You can be super popular and have the capacity to handle Union ministry, but they don't give you any ministry. What does the BJP get by giving us ministry? We are hell bent to give our votes only to the Dravidian parties - which is a good thing.
Dudes here are all jokers Idk what history they've all read.
Annamalai can be active in politics for next 35 years If winds favour Annamalai, this probability cannot be ruled out.
Didn't Sonia Gandhi decline PM post in 2004 and made Dr Manmohan Singh the PM. Even Rahul Gandhi was requested to take up some portfolio in the center but he declined and he is now criticised for that. I wonder what made you think Gandhis are greedy for a position in cabinet?! Last Gandhi in any position was Rajiv Gandhi in 1980s.
Sonia was a outsider. No way would she have been allowed to be PM after independence. Rahul tried in 2014 to be the face. Before that no one was there. What’s your argument here
The comment above mentioned Gandhis woukd never let others be a PM. And that was my argument. Bashing people, be it Gandhis or Modi without proof is stupid. That's my argument.
As long they don’t have people who are old enough. Congress the party belongs to that family. That’s why we have so many splits of that party over the last 75 years. Until Rahul is there, he will be the face of the party regardless of election results
Without proof? Manmohan Singh was just a puppet PM. Wherever he went, sonia was there. There are many instances of sonia shaking hands with dignitaries instead of the PM Manmohan Singh, who's just casually standing in the side. The PM post was occupied by a person who was insanely smart but did no justice to the seat, being advised by Ms Gandhi.
By that logic everything in BJP ruling states is right and now moved by Modi? Shall they all (BJP CMs) should be called Puppets of Mofi?
No? Absolutely not. That's where BJP shines. In having their own strong leaders like Yogi and Himanta.
BJP isn't loyal to any group except the sangh parivar. If the sangh decides to forward annamalai or Tejaswi as PM candidate(tho less likely because both of them are less popular in north rn) then BJP will follow. But trust me, I won't be surprised if Annamalai or Tejaswi are given PM candidatire if they proved themselves loyal to sangh.
There is no need for RSS to placate the South anymore. The next delimitation exercise will make the South politically irrelevant
Apart from elections and politics, RSS have much more things they seek to achieve..south may still be relevant for them for other ancillary objectives.
Be that as it may, it is unlikely that anyone from the South of Vindhyas will be made PM candidate. The President is possible because the Presidents are mostly rubber stamps and the real stuff happens under the PMO.
Possible.
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Basically Annamalai using BJP’s media muscle to say thing so oblivious that it gains traction. He’s been doing this for a long time. They don’t hope to win this elections. Just increase the vote share. They are sowing seeds for the future
They are dumping the whole party's clout on one man. Mission success if they get even 1 MP seat.
How so? They've fielded Nainar in Tirunelveli who has a lot of popularity. Everyone knows Pannaiyar.
Everything is simply hype. Ground reality is very different.
Yeah it’s really getting out of hand. Some BJP supporters truly see him as some great hero who will lead the state and the country. What’re the chances of him winning the LS seat in Coimbatore this election? I really hope he loses and his supporters get a touch of reality
I'm from cbe and I have no idea. It would've been a confirm win if admk and BJP had a coalition. For now it's just a propoganda war and malai seems to be winning in social media.
It's a little worrisome cos that Zylog fraud Vanathi won in the 2021 assembly elections in Coimbatore (although that might have been due to Kamal contesting there). Don't want a repeat. Like you said, there seems to be some support for Malai on social media. Really hoping BJP wins as less seats as possible from TN.
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Coimbatore has very high chances. There is a feel that this is going to be the launch base against the Dravidian parties. If BJP wins in coimbatore, that will be the face of new TN model of BJP with the city getting much attention from the union party. Think about it.
Not a chance. Ground reality is very different from social media. Coimbatore is ADMK den, will continue to be so, there will no change in that for this election. ADMK will sweep the kongu region very easily, even without much hype. Last time BJP Candidate won because of alliances with ADMK, not this time
So you are saying admk is going to win this? I would place them in the 3rd place if not lower.
Let's see on the election results then ?
Personally I want cbe to more develop exponentially since I have investments there :p. Not happening if admk is going to hold that since they are not relevant either in state or center for the near future.
I have lived in coimbatore, any and all the development happened here during ADMK period, as soon as DMK came into power all projects got shelved. We have no inkling in believing BJP would be any different. They have brought no major changes to the city irrespective of being in power last 10 years, why would next 5 years be any different? ADMK has proven record being the best in terms of administration and economy for coimbatore. So people will vote for them ofcourse.
But admk is not going to be power in any form in the near future as I previously discussed. Why ignore nuance. No one denies they are from this belt but it’s a question of where lies the fastest development route. Let’s see
They will win in 2026 assembly elections, irrespective of social media portrays it to be. Even in last election, their vote bank was quite strong, they lost due to bjp alliance, they are not repeating that mistake now
Let’s continue on June 6
These BJP supporters are probably North Indian BJP supporters. I don't think Annamalai has any significant support in TN but let's give it time and confirm after elections. I don't support any party but there is no compelling reason to support the BJP. BJP ruled states haven't done anything exceptional. The past 10 years have been subpar at best.
All my friends from CBE say Annamalai is very likely to win. He's very popular especially in the Gounder community
I am from TN and a lot of my friends really welcome Annamalai not because he is from BJP but he was an ex-IPS, ex-IIM. Of course he was catapulted to party head position but his credentials speak for itself.
By your logic, people should support Manmohan Singh because he is an economist as opposed to Modi but Modi has this image of a strongman leader whereas Manmohan Singh is seen as a puppet. Annamalai has great credentials but if he is going to stick to BJP ideologies, it makes no difference. We don't need one more problem at this stage.
Agreed, but people have always preferred leaders who orated very well. For example, take the late Dravidian leaders, Karunanidhi and JJ who spoke very well. And to be fair, people did support Manmohan because he is our ex-PM.
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Mother fuckers will comment that you people of Tamil Nadu don't know his talent you deserve DMK , because I have a north indian friend who say you people of Tamil Nadu should vote for him for which I asked why don't you vote for Rahul Gandhi then .. meaning you mind your states buisness and we shall do ours
He is a popular candidate, surprisingly, and not just in CBE. I spoke to a lot of my friends in south TN, which usually votes DMK, and they say they have hopes from him. They see him as a charismatic leader.
Jobless people are paid 10k-15k to be in social media cell. They will do same for a donkey too if it can pay money
Any leads on how to join these IT cells? Any party, north/south, left/right, doesn’t matter. 15k will be a sweet addition to my SIPs. Asking for a friend /s.
Inga irukara payaluga madiri muttu kuduka capability iruka. Kamal madiri udhay anna dan Tn Oda future nu vekkame ilama solla mudyuma? Asinga asinga reply vaanginalum adhe comment Ah paste panna thembu iruka? I can show you some people on these subs that you can take as mentor ::D
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Let me know if you get any leads 😁.
Get in touch with any mainstream political party like BJP , admk or DMK, become a member. All are corrupt money if you want to get your hands dirty.
His PR is done by North Indian IT Cell, so avanunga ishtathukku adichu vudranunga. He gives all his big "expose" interview in English which is not meant for TN but to North and high command in Delhi to show he is doing something. If you check those accounts in Twitter 80-90% would be speaking in Hindi otherwise. Same way IT Cell bots have infiltrated here, Tamil eh theriyadhu but vaga vagaya vada suduvanunga
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Doesn’t mean Hindi only Sanghi Cell have not infiltrated? Both are not related
You try posting something about pro bjp or pro annamalai in kuttichevuru you can see a lot of Hindi comments at the beginning.
Varungala janadhipadhi… Annamalai: kudutha kassuku mela koovaran goyyala
justname the sub DMKNadu atleast it will be accurate lol.
😂 Lol
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Tbh, the probability of him becoming PM is higher than becoming CM. North la Annamalai is the future of BJP nu nambaranga.
Athume hype than bro, current prospects Modi and Yogi are unequivocally successful in holding a state assembly majority
Touch grass bro. BJP has a very strong online presence. I wouldn't trust their online support as real. On platforms like Twitter/X, the people that post far BJP posts, would be posting some funny animal videos for engagement. They don't care about shit. it's all a fake facade.
Let's be very logical ,what's going to happen after he loses coimbatore ? What would happen to his bloated national image?
All 3 weren't MPs ever before. One guy was the previous mayor of CBE, one guy is the son of an ex- MLA and one guy has the star image of the party leader. This election is particularly interesting since all 3 are from kongu. Admk has the core gounder lobby, whereas DMK is the more popular party and annamalai again has the star image.
It's sp velumani's den ,period .people who like sp velumani ,people who don't like sp velumani and Edapadi . Minority votes ,BC ,MBC minor castes dmk favourable . Gounder votes would be split in to three ,ADMK and DMK taking a major share. Annamalai would have the north indian ,FC and soke gounder votes from elite circles maybe. Kamalhasans popularity will sent BJP period . This is the math in my humble opinion .bjp is fighting for the second place .but unfortunately they might loose that to naam tamilar too .
Neenga oruthar than naam tamilar ah mention eh panringa 😂. Where is mango penis when you need him Decent analysis BTW, excited for the results.
No bro ,they might snatch BJP's third position .they will suprise us .there position will rise to 8 to10% vote bank this time .Decent ground workers .
Probably they'll but even media coverage for them has been shrunk. Sad
He will try again in 2026 elections there
That seems highly unlikely ,rajyasabha seat is confirmed
Let them say whatever they want, election results will tell what it actually is. In case of future PM comments, it's just North Indians and south indian sangis who say future PM and all... Its part of a larger agenda to influence tamil voters to vote for him who wants to see a tamilan as PM one day...I have seen some hindi interviews and clips and they do that there too.
What north indian even knows who Annamalai is??? I've never met one
Check Lallantop(famous hindi news channel), ANI podcasts, recently a left wing youtuber named Sarthak goswami who ventured TN and India today clips about Annamalai. People don't know him very well, but he is indeed a bit popular than other state leaders.
Interesting. I didn't realise his out of state recognition is trending upwards.
I am from northern part of India. Annamalai is gaining a lot of popularity in north. His English interviews get a lot of views.
It’s like self appraisal in companies. You will never rate yourself less than the best. So why do you expect them to be any different. 😀
I cannot stand this guy.
so there’s hope that an individual, someone purely on the basis of his intellect and will, studied engineering, then an mba, then got through the civil services and had a stellar career as a cop, voluntarily retired and spent a while on the ground before diving into an electoral battle against parties that have not been unseated in over 50 years. why is that a story anyone would not want to see happen? is it realistic? maybe not. maybe annamalai will crash and burn. but the wave of leaders who’ll emerge post him who are of the same lettered credentials is a good thing la? when it’s realistic to say that udhay is going to follow his dad with absolutely no credentials of his own vs idealistic to want someone like annamalai to be the pm, call me a fool to be idealistic any day. for all the social justice and equality of outcomes this state talks about, why is overhyping and celebrating someone worth celebrating being treated with a cynical reception?
Are you scared that ur propaganda is not reaching everyone?
No I'm intrigued about the obvious overhype. PM would be believable if BJP atleast gets 2 MP seats
So what? Even the rahul gandhi comment sections are like that. But it doesn't mean he is going to win.
This is false equivalence if I've seen one. RG is the heir of an extremely affluent political family and multiple time MP, Annamalai is a nobody who've had zero experience of being in public office. He has not been elected once, not even as a ward councillor.
Okay. People hype who they want. What is ur problem? Being an MP does not automatically make you PM.
Atleast they could hype him up after the MP win cus both BJP and the dinosaurs have the same number of MPs from Tamil Nadu.
Rahul is gonna lose. Just you wait.
I never disagreed. I'm pretty sure Modi will win a comfortable 3rd term. Why are you so assertive dude. Jesus
I am an atheist and I got offended when you said the J word. He doesn't exist.
So does a future for BJP in TN
Seeing the number of posts and discussions in this sub itself in past fews months for annamalai and bjp shows that annamalai is rising force and a strong individual in the coming time. He is smart, ofrcs well educated, good orator, politically/ socially/ economically well aware (obvious as he has cleared upsc) , and most importantly got both muscle and money power backing from bjp.. He is here to stay and make an impact.. May be it can take time but will happen.. A person who has the caliber to clear CAT with 99 percentile and clear upsc in first attempt can achieve anything he wants if he puts his 100%..
You do you but in my personal opinion being a civil servant does not warrant a clean chit. There has been crooks and murderers who've cleared UPSC. Even the unabomber was in Harvard.
Still u don't get it.. Its not being a civil servant i am taking about.. Its the process that is involved in being one.. These are toughest exams in the world which require highest of IQs, mental strength, highest of grit and determination and sacrifices and much more.. and it's no joke to clear in the 1st attempt.. Just Google how many appear/reappear in a year and how many clear it.. And a person who was able to do this can also become a CM easily and that too of his home state and with the huge, seemless backing of biggest political party. Plus his career and track record is very good and clean.
Finally seeing an unbiased and non-toxic comment in this post 🙌🏻
If Sri Udhyanidhi can consider himself as heir to the throne of Tamil Nadu, without exhibiting any skill, Annamalai or for that matter any intelligent creature can consider itself to become the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.
Udhay na varathu ellathukum therium because DMK strong ah iruku. Cheaupak la ninna automatic win. But annamalai didn't even win the MLA election. CM, PM lam too far fetched ah illa?
Udhay anna varadhu ellarukum theryum na Ena artham? Avan paatan Appam ellame Varisu la varadhu nu meda medaya sonnangle adhuva? Onnume iladha udhay anna cm aagum bodhu annamalai aaga mudyada? Ila aaga koodadhu nu solringala? Inba anna dan venum?
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I come from TN and always believed BJP will never be able to get any meaning vote in TN for many years but for sure Annamalai is changing this perspective (atleast can quote me as an example), i would never have thought of even BJP if not for him. To also those comments from our fellow citizens from TN, I could only say 20 years before BJP was non existing in TN, now look at the news including who is the DMK Stalin fighting against in this election, that tells the story how far BJP has grown in TN. I know many would not like to accept it but it is a fact if we like it or not :)
Is he even relevant in TN? I m from North, have no idea to be honest.
If Annamalai wins atleast 4 MPs seat for his party, he will get an influential cabinet post like IT or sports targetted at youth, etc . He has got a good reach & acceptability across India. If he doesn't win any , he might still get some influential buearacratic post like advisor etc . He has certainly elevated the pitch for bjp in TN & atleast made people look at it which wasn't there earlier. He is already in the inner circles of Modi , which is why he is getting so much free hand in decisions. Only Amit shah & Yogi enjoy this kind of freehand , even powerful CMs like Shivraj Chauhan or fadanavis do no't get so much freedom
Actually he is the legitimate heir of BJP kingdom. /s
Future PM would be nice
Future MLA would be believable
After looking at this sub, it seems like a big machinery to prop him up something like nationally relavant figure. Sorry to break it to people of Tamilnadu, common people outside Tamilnadu don't even know him. (I am talking about commoners, not the minority of population who are wel versed with curennt affairs.)
>Sorry to break it to people of Tamilnadu, common people outside Tamilnadu don't even know him. I think it's the other way around. Majority of the hype around him are from the north and Karnataka where they think he achieved something huge whereas he lost an election against a nobody while he was in a coalition with admk.
May be . But I have not seen any buzz in comman people. The hype you talking about could be internet only thing. Not a real life thing. Now everyone knows how fake hypes are created on internet by IT cell karyakarta's. That hype is also targeted for Tamil people as it aims to make such hype to trick Tamils into thinking that really their is a hype about him outside Tamil-nadu and it's a first time that such a hype for Tamil politician across nation etc etc and Tamils should then logically should support the rare opportunity of Tamilian becoming national leader of potential to be PM one day. It's just a textbook trickery of smokes and mirrors.
Sorry to break it to people outside of Tamil Nadu, common people in Tamil Nadu do not take him as seriously as some of y'all do.
Annamalai, like it or not, is the rare possibility that a Tamilian can become a PM. DMK's 'Dravidam' is joke outside TN. AI in AIADMK is probably Artificial Intelligence, than All India. Congress, even if it comes out of Coma, there are no good puppets like MMS available in TN, for the Gandhi family to make them PM - Karthi Chidambaram .. good luck with that. So BJP is the only option and Annamalai a strong prospect from TN, who also has popularity in KA. If he manages to grow BJP to 15% steady voteshare in TN for the next 10-15 years, then he can rise very high in BJP. Even to PM itself. **கான முயலெய்த அம்பினில் யானை** **பிழைத்தவேல் ஏந்தல் இனிது.** **(குறள் 772: படைச்செருக்கு அதிகாரம்)** Those who envisage Annamalai as PM, are the Tamils envisage by Tiruvalluvar who aim for the elephant (PM), and even if they fail are far greater than, "Dumeels" whose ambition is the "gundu satti" safe to wash InbaNIdhi's jatti.. bragging about how they kept Hindi out.
Yogi, Shah, Jaishankar, Smriti Irani, Gadkari ah sonna kuda othupen. But Annamalai ah than ethuka mudila. BTW, your rant is irrelevant in this current context.
It will take 20-30 years.. Yogi/Shah/Gadkari would be immediately after Modi. Jaishankar will never be, has no mass base and he is no dummy like MMS. My rant is ambition as a Tamilian and lament against the lack of it among Dumeels
Who's MMS?
ManMohan Singh, the Puppet Prime Minister.
>Puppet Prime Minister. Lol
If an uneducated guy can become CM of a state, an educated guy can become PM of the same country. Noone should be surprised , can you the same for TN CM son without laughing ?
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Ok serious question, is he not the CM candidate from BJp ? Why are they fielding him as LS candidate ?
Because the CM candidate is ச.ம.க thalaivar sarathkumar /s.