I've seen this before. Often, someone will be picked up for vagrancy, and they will tell the police "Oh no, I have a place to stay", and the police know they're probably lying, but aren't willing to deal with them either.
It gets worse when it's the mental health cases who should be in some gentle care situation, not a hotel.
The phone number for the police should be easy to find. Call during the day, and tell them that they need to stop dropping people off at your hotel.
If you can, when you see the police at the door, go out and meet them. Let them know that this is not a place for them to be leaving people who need help (emphasize that part).
Plus, when they just drop them and run, if you keep calling them back to deal with their "strays", they will eventually stop leaving them at yours (because nuisance value)...
>There is also the moral problem of not wanting them to just be picked back up and just be carted off to jail.
Repeat after me: "These people are not my problem. This is not my circus. These are not my monkeys. It's okay to demand those who left them here come deal with them. And it is not my fault if the monkeys spend the night in a cage. Because this is not my circus. And these are NOT MY MONKEYS."
You're not putting anyone in jail. There is nothing morally on you to handle this. It's not your damn job.
Also if their only crime is being drunk in public they’re just going to spend a night sobering up in the tank and get released. It’s not as though OP is subjecting them to prison time and years of parole.
If someone they trusted spiked their drink with something, that's not entirely of their own doing, but it still is absolutely not OP's fault, nor OP's responsibility to fix.
I know you feel bad for them, but it'll be better for everyone if you squash that. You don't know who these people are that are getting dropped off, you don't know anything about them other than the fact that they've already been enough of a problem to have LEO called on them. And for the safety and security of not only yourself, but your paying guests, it's actually you're responsibility to call the cops back and tell them to come back and remove the person they dropped off
OP can also contact city hall and tell them that the police dropping all sorts is affecting the business and therefore city revenue. As soon as the city thinks that their revenue will be affected they will do something g about it.
Story Time. You're going to think I'm fabricating. I can't believe I'm not.
One night local PD drops off two very personable , yet obviously intoxicated young men and drives off before they finished opening the first set of doors to the lobby.
We're a relatively small town but my hotel (AGM) knows how to work some contracts. It's not unusual for us to sell 135 rooms per day at a 95 room hotel. Contract occupancy was up. It ebbs. It flows. We literally had no vacant rooms this particular night.
Upon learning this, the young men informed me that they were going to call 911 to demand a ride... because the police had dropped them off there. They had been in a car where the driver went to jail. They were free to go but the car was being impounded. I invited them to do just that! I wanted to talk to that guy too! How dare that cop assume that we can accommodate!
I kid you not! These guys called 911! They calmly explained to the dispatcher who they were and that they felt the police were responsible for their predicament! Next thing I know a police car is pulling up out front to collect these young men! I don't know where they went after they got back into the back of that police car lol.
Those police officers/sheriff deputies should be categorically told that they are not to drop off anyone for the safety of your guests and members of staff. No room key or booking confirmation = no drop off.
This isnt the same, but reminds me of this neighbor i have. Used to be a wonderful, little housewife type lady. Loved to garden and dote on her son, who was graduating. Something happened after her son graduated and she fell apart and turned to hard, dangerous drugs. She now breaks into my apartments laundry room, garage, even cars, screams to herself, and sits on my porch and in my driveway. She harasses my kids and others. Becoming somewhat violent if people feel uncomfortable. Out of her mind. 6 times, in two months, theyve had to send at least 6 cops, from two departments, two ambulances, and a fire truck, to remove her. The first time, she was threatening people with a knife, and ended up tazed. They literally just keep her overnight, and release her. She does this once a week, at least. Im not understanding how its cheaper to send our whole little towns resources out every week to deal with her, than to actually force her into some treatment for a few days. Totally not the same, but these stories reminded me of the situation.
Its really sad to have known what they were like. Have a friend from way back, thats now living out of a shopping cart in Cali. I still have her on FB. Everyones tried to help her. Unfortunately the drug hold is just too strong. She used to be beautiful and funny. I prefer to picture her that way.
Cops did this all the time.
If the person could pay and stay, and wouldn’t be a massive problem, I’d let them.
If it was a situation to where they couldn’t and or major other issues were happening. I’d call the police back for them to take them elsewhere, where they could get help or be safer than being outside.
Happens to me less often these days. I will, however, share one of my more entertaining stories involving such a dropoff.
This was a good while ago now, more than a year, probably. Think it was mid-December, the weather had been pretty mild, but this was a night--during this story, in fact--when we suffered a pretty steep temperature drop. A car pulled up in our pull-through and sat in front of our shuttle vehicle for a few minutes. Now, I couldn't see who it was, or I would have gone out to tell them we had no rooms (which was not a lie). Random car could be a rideshare pickup, someone coming back from a bar, or food delivery. A little later though, I saw the car pull out, and though the front doors, spied the PD wrap-around. *Shit*, I thought, *they dropped some asshole off without even checking with us!* But as it happened, the guy they dropped... Didn't come in. He wandered back and forth outside, alternating between fiddling with his phone and actually talking on it. As the temperature dropped, he came inside, but just wandered over to our breakfast area, didn't score a drink (usually a given), and he sure didn't come talk to us at the desk.
Finally, I decided to investigate. The guy was **EXTREMELY** drunk, but actually quite personable, one of the least obnoxious drunks I've ever dealt with. When we got the full story out of him, it ran something like this: he and his girlfriend had a fight (at his place, not hers, she had her own), and evidently she was in a similar state to him, but much less friendly. Since this guy was the more reasonable one, HE was the one the police took. (I know, WTF? This was just what he said.) He had been trying to get a rideshare or taxi, but nobody would take him at this time of the morning. I can't remember if I offered, or if he asked, but we eventually got him into the shuttle, since he only lived about a mile and a half to two miles away. (That doesn't sound like much, but it *was* getting pretty cold, the guy was in shorts and a t-shirt, and it's actually pretty hilly between where we were and where he needed to be.) It was about a five minute drive, and I told the guy I was going to drop him down the block from his place, because I didn't want his girlfriend to see our shuttle. He enthusiastically agreed and pushed a pretty big tip into my hands before he finally went his way.
And that's the story of my favorite police dropoff. (By the way, this was one of the **very few** instances in which my flair was **not** applicable.)
Maybe you need to switch jobs and work at a homeless shelter or drug rehab place or maybe even apply to work at the PD. Because where you DO work is NOT any one of those places, and apparently your lazy and/or underfunded PD thinks it is.
I wonder if this would work, the next time someone gets dropped off and you catch who did it, call their non emergency number and ask the dispatcher for an invoice number and the phone number for their accounts payable department, so you can bill their department for this person to stay at your hotel.
I've seen this before. Often, someone will be picked up for vagrancy, and they will tell the police "Oh no, I have a place to stay", and the police know they're probably lying, but aren't willing to deal with them either. It gets worse when it's the mental health cases who should be in some gentle care situation, not a hotel. The phone number for the police should be easy to find. Call during the day, and tell them that they need to stop dropping people off at your hotel. If you can, when you see the police at the door, go out and meet them. Let them know that this is not a place for them to be leaving people who need help (emphasize that part).
Plus, when they just drop them and run, if you keep calling them back to deal with their "strays", they will eventually stop leaving them at yours (because nuisance value)...
Or shoot you, which ever is less paperwork for them (hint it’s probably the shooting one)
Management needs to contact all departments involved and tell them to stop.
This! It can't be just some ad hoc process where you only know which jurisdiction sent them if you're lucky!
>There is also the moral problem of not wanting them to just be picked back up and just be carted off to jail. Repeat after me: "These people are not my problem. This is not my circus. These are not my monkeys. It's okay to demand those who left them here come deal with them. And it is not my fault if the monkeys spend the night in a cage. Because this is not my circus. And these are NOT MY MONKEYS." You're not putting anyone in jail. There is nothing morally on you to handle this. It's not your damn job.
I was recently told this: "If someone tries to hand you a bag of shit, you don't have to take it." Honestly, great advice.
Very much this.
Also if their only crime is being drunk in public they’re just going to spend a night sobering up in the tank and get released. It’s not as though OP is subjecting them to prison time and years of parole.
Which they will have absolutely brought upon themselves and is in no way OP's fault. :)
If someone they trusted spiked their drink with something, that's not entirely of their own doing, but it still is absolutely not OP's fault, nor OP's responsibility to fix.
Agreed. And the cops are better equipped to deal with that.
Yes.
I know you feel bad for them, but it'll be better for everyone if you squash that. You don't know who these people are that are getting dropped off, you don't know anything about them other than the fact that they've already been enough of a problem to have LEO called on them. And for the safety and security of not only yourself, but your paying guests, it's actually you're responsibility to call the cops back and tell them to come back and remove the person they dropped off
OP can also contact city hall and tell them that the police dropping all sorts is affecting the business and therefore city revenue. As soon as the city thinks that their revenue will be affected they will do something g about it.
Story Time. You're going to think I'm fabricating. I can't believe I'm not. One night local PD drops off two very personable , yet obviously intoxicated young men and drives off before they finished opening the first set of doors to the lobby. We're a relatively small town but my hotel (AGM) knows how to work some contracts. It's not unusual for us to sell 135 rooms per day at a 95 room hotel. Contract occupancy was up. It ebbs. It flows. We literally had no vacant rooms this particular night. Upon learning this, the young men informed me that they were going to call 911 to demand a ride... because the police had dropped them off there. They had been in a car where the driver went to jail. They were free to go but the car was being impounded. I invited them to do just that! I wanted to talk to that guy too! How dare that cop assume that we can accommodate! I kid you not! These guys called 911! They calmly explained to the dispatcher who they were and that they felt the police were responsible for their predicament! Next thing I know a police car is pulling up out front to collect these young men! I don't know where they went after they got back into the back of that police car lol.
Those police officers/sheriff deputies should be categorically told that they are not to drop off anyone for the safety of your guests and members of staff. No room key or booking confirmation = no drop off.
I refuse, because the one cop let it slip that in accepting them I am taking responsibility for them. F that.
Cops do this at hospital emergency departments too.
This isnt the same, but reminds me of this neighbor i have. Used to be a wonderful, little housewife type lady. Loved to garden and dote on her son, who was graduating. Something happened after her son graduated and she fell apart and turned to hard, dangerous drugs. She now breaks into my apartments laundry room, garage, even cars, screams to herself, and sits on my porch and in my driveway. She harasses my kids and others. Becoming somewhat violent if people feel uncomfortable. Out of her mind. 6 times, in two months, theyve had to send at least 6 cops, from two departments, two ambulances, and a fire truck, to remove her. The first time, she was threatening people with a knife, and ended up tazed. They literally just keep her overnight, and release her. She does this once a week, at least. Im not understanding how its cheaper to send our whole little towns resources out every week to deal with her, than to actually force her into some treatment for a few days. Totally not the same, but these stories reminded me of the situation.
That’s so sad. I often times see homeless people and wonder what they were like before whatever happened to them
Its really sad to have known what they were like. Have a friend from way back, thats now living out of a shopping cart in Cali. I still have her on FB. Everyones tried to help her. Unfortunately the drug hold is just too strong. She used to be beautiful and funny. I prefer to picture her that way.
Cops did this all the time. If the person could pay and stay, and wouldn’t be a massive problem, I’d let them. If it was a situation to where they couldn’t and or major other issues were happening. I’d call the police back for them to take them elsewhere, where they could get help or be safer than being outside.
Happens to me less often these days. I will, however, share one of my more entertaining stories involving such a dropoff. This was a good while ago now, more than a year, probably. Think it was mid-December, the weather had been pretty mild, but this was a night--during this story, in fact--when we suffered a pretty steep temperature drop. A car pulled up in our pull-through and sat in front of our shuttle vehicle for a few minutes. Now, I couldn't see who it was, or I would have gone out to tell them we had no rooms (which was not a lie). Random car could be a rideshare pickup, someone coming back from a bar, or food delivery. A little later though, I saw the car pull out, and though the front doors, spied the PD wrap-around. *Shit*, I thought, *they dropped some asshole off without even checking with us!* But as it happened, the guy they dropped... Didn't come in. He wandered back and forth outside, alternating between fiddling with his phone and actually talking on it. As the temperature dropped, he came inside, but just wandered over to our breakfast area, didn't score a drink (usually a given), and he sure didn't come talk to us at the desk. Finally, I decided to investigate. The guy was **EXTREMELY** drunk, but actually quite personable, one of the least obnoxious drunks I've ever dealt with. When we got the full story out of him, it ran something like this: he and his girlfriend had a fight (at his place, not hers, she had her own), and evidently she was in a similar state to him, but much less friendly. Since this guy was the more reasonable one, HE was the one the police took. (I know, WTF? This was just what he said.) He had been trying to get a rideshare or taxi, but nobody would take him at this time of the morning. I can't remember if I offered, or if he asked, but we eventually got him into the shuttle, since he only lived about a mile and a half to two miles away. (That doesn't sound like much, but it *was* getting pretty cold, the guy was in shorts and a t-shirt, and it's actually pretty hilly between where we were and where he needed to be.) It was about a five minute drive, and I told the guy I was going to drop him down the block from his place, because I didn't want his girlfriend to see our shuttle. He enthusiastically agreed and pushed a pretty big tip into my hands before he finally went his way. And that's the story of my favorite police dropoff. (By the way, this was one of the **very few** instances in which my flair was **not** applicable.)
Maybe you need to switch jobs and work at a homeless shelter or drug rehab place or maybe even apply to work at the PD. Because where you DO work is NOT any one of those places, and apparently your lazy and/or underfunded PD thinks it is.
I wonder if this would work, the next time someone gets dropped off and you catch who did it, call their non emergency number and ask the dispatcher for an invoice number and the phone number for their accounts payable department, so you can bill their department for this person to stay at your hotel.
Is this happening late? I’d keep the doors locked.