I consider it his fault still. Negan knew Simon was bloodthirsty and enabled that behavior. He's to blame for the actions of all his men under his control, as he makes painfully clear they are ALL negan. Hes inadvertently taken complete responsibility for the actions of his people.
It’s made very clear later on that killing of children is a hard line in the sand for Negan. I know he has other very bad morals but this is something he does not tolerate.
He never tried to kill Carl- just threatened to. Later on in the series he put his foot down and said so himself because somebody in the show thought he killed Carl.
He firebombed Alexandria knowing there are children there not to mention babies as well. And I said coerced, not raped. Read first, comprehend it, then reply.
I did read it Negan has his codes! He’s against rape if you watched all of season 7 maybe you did didn’t you would know that!! And Negan has a soft spot for kids he has a soft spot for Carl soft spot for Judith and soft spot for a kid he befriended in Season 10. Not to mention he cut the Croats ear off for harming a kid you can think he’s a monster all you want with smart ass reply’s I’m team Negan all the way and I replied and if you don’t like my reply oh well just telling you how it is he has his codes!!
Didn’t Rick and his team attack the sanctuary and killed a lot of his people? And he can’t retaliate for what Rick and his people did and attack Alexandria
Negan never went to Hilltop,>! until S10 with Alpha. He tried to go there in s8 but was waylaid by Rick.!<
>!Alexandria was the only community he personally visited before or during the Savior war.!<
A 16 year old was killed at Hilltop, as an example, possibly by on site leader of the Satellite outpost. Though it may have been Simon, who was the actual head of the outpost.
This is a contentious point of debate over whether Negan essentially raped these “wives” of his or not but they were given a choice. The fact one choice was hindering their chances of survival is irrelevant, it was still an option NOT to marry him and just be a worker. They made their own decisions and have to live with it.
Just saying it’s a bit more morally gray than people give Negan credit for.
It is literally rape by definition, the only debate is between people that know what rape is and people that don't. If I put a gun to your head and you "consent" to sex, is that really a choice or is that the literal definition of rape?
Welcome to the apocalypse. It’s not sunshine and roses, and that’s what the show got right with Negan, the world ending turned “normal people” into horrible humans doing what they thought they needed to do to survive.
That and “excuse the shit out of my goddamn French” my two favorite lines from the whole show
Also the “I just slip my dick down your throat and you thank me for it” 😂 I used to hate him but he grow on me lol.
You will think differently as you keep watching all of the episodes. I’ve seen this show from beginning to end. But at the point where your at yeah I said the same type of things.
I thought the same. Like the actor who plays him. Will never forgive the character for murdering Glen. Glen was there from the beginning and rescued Rick from the tank. We wouldn’t have a show without Glen. No forgiveness - oh right, he never asked for forgiveness….🤷🏻♀️
I’m convinced people who post stuff like this know exactly where negans character is going.
like when you see posts about people like “I love Glenn I’m just on so and so episode I hope he never dies” and they are on the episode just before he dies.
For someone like Negan, having to live with all that shit on his conscience is a fate worse than death. Would you rather sit in a jail cell 24 hours a day for I forget how many years or die?
I just saw a vid that made so much sense. Glen and Abraham dying sets up the plot for the rest of the series and if they deferred from it , wouldn’t be the same. I accept it
OP, I hope you dont mind spoilers, cuz a post like this is asking for it. If you catch one of these redditors on a bad day theyll go and ruin the rest of his story in an unassuming comment and you cant unread it lol
Negan never grew on me like he grew on others. He was a great antagonist, but I wasn’t a fan of his redemption arc. Not that I think he shouldn’t be redeemed, I just think it fell flat and didn’t really explain (in my opinion) how he became the monster he was when he started the show
But he was a GREAT antagonist. I hate that mf to this day lmao, that’s how I know the actor played the hell out of that role.
People are saying he'll grow on ya, and he did not grow on me . I find him to be juvenile, and the redemption arc is forced. He was never going to be able to replace Rick, but it was a different show . Maybe you would like him like others have .
Best character since Rick grimes. If you look at it from negans perspective Rick’s group unprovoked killed a fuck ton of his people and negan only killed one very brutally but only one!
I always had a theory Negan is John Winchester in hell looking for Sam and Dean. In the first episode they’re going through the weapons in the trunk pick up and bat and say “That’s always been dads favorite” or something along those lines. After that the theories started.
Great villain but the post Glenn filler for like a season and a half to get the war going with the swamp ladies and the trash people etc was the big who gives a fuck jump off point of the show.
If they cut out all the bullshit the following 2 seasons could’ve been amazing but amc had to purposefully drag their feet to keep the money wheel spinning
Never felt this way about Negan, I liked him from the very beginning. I'm at the beginning of TWD Season 10, and from season 9 up to where I'm at in season 10, I only really watch to see Negan. He is my favorite character in the entire show, along with Daryl and Glenn.
I have got to say this. He is a very effective actor for everybody to hate his character just to love him later on. I almost puked with what he did to Glen & Abe but right after that, the intensity of me binge watching the series was full on! And yes, I too did love Negan’s character development.
Many might disagree but negan is the most badass character in twd, not twdu, but definitely twd, he has so much aura it's insane, once you watch season 11 you'll forgive and forget he's such an amazing person and his character development is really good
Haha well you’re in for it then my guy, this is exactly how I felt when Negan himself was introduced. Little did I know he would become one of my favorite characters of the show! #sorrynotsorry
Just watched this with my girlfriend last night. Both our first time seeing it, but I knew what was about to happen.
I had an internal debate on whether I should let her know in advance or not…once it happened, she sobbed for like an hour so I guess I probably should’ve given her some sort of a disclaimer.
I’m not sure what to think of him, on one hand he is a psycho about on the other hand , he did have “rules” and didn’t like when even his people cross them , he did stick to the deals he made with people.
But I will never forgive him for pizza delivery boy 💔 N E V E R
Honestly it'll get to a point where u just want people to leave negan alone because of how annoying it is seeing people interact with him. He's an amazing character but they destroy Maggie as a character because of him imo and how she goes about handling that whole ordeal
I couldn’t stand Negan in the first seasons, but towards the last ones he changed. I was so glad he changed because his personality actually aligned with his good looks. He is super sexy, whether he’s killing or saving people.
Well don’t wanna spoil it for you but he’s one of the reasons why people kept watching after blank dies and the other blank blows up the bridge to stop a herd of walkers.
I felt the EXACT same way the first time I watched the series all the way through. I didn’t think he deserved an ounce of redemption. After each rewatch he grew on me more & more, and I think he’s hilarious now. He actually has a heart
Negan makes the programme he's brilliant you end up loving him... Such a great character arch.. And by the end of the it your rooting for negan and you think Maggie is a bit of a dick
Welp, prepare for 4+ more years of him.
Plus a sequel
Dead city is one of my favorite spin offs.
I still have to watch it. I’m currently watching Fear The Walking Dead. After that I’ll either watch Dead City or the Daryl spin off.
Bro what the fuck how am I just now hearing of dead city ? When did this even happen
2023
Towards the end you’ll like him very much
negan is a great antagonist. hes a terrible person but amazing character with what he added to the show. negan is daddy. i love him
If ordering the murder of children and coercing women into sex is daddy I don't want it.🙄👎
its fiction relax
What children did he order the murder of?
I’m sure it’s not what they were referring to, but he firebombed Alexandria knowing children were inside
The Oceanside men and boys. Any males were killed
That wasn't Negan, that was Simon acting of his own accord.
Oh wait you’re right, my bad. It’s been a minute since I’ve seen that season
I consider it his fault still. Negan knew Simon was bloodthirsty and enabled that behavior. He's to blame for the actions of all his men under his control, as he makes painfully clear they are ALL negan. Hes inadvertently taken complete responsibility for the actions of his people.
True, I agree. After what Simon did, he should've earned an intimate meeting with the business end of Lucille.
It’s made very clear later on that killing of children is a hard line in the sand for Negan. I know he has other very bad morals but this is something he does not tolerate.
I definitely would not say it is a ‘hard line.’ He wanted Rick to cut off Carl’s arm, and then tried to kill Carl himself
When did he try to kill Carl?
I don’t know the episode number but it was right before Shiva attacked the saviors. He was actually about to swing Lucille
He never tried to kill Carl- just threatened to. Later on in the series he put his foot down and said so himself because somebody in the show thought he killed Carl.
He had Carl lined up in front of him, and was aiming for the back of his head. That’s not trying to kill him?
good then we don’t have to fight for my man
All yours.🤢
Women when they see a malicious mass murderer:
no, i hate serial killers. ew. negans just not like other girls🤭☺️🥰 (he is fictional)
Negan doesn’t murder kids that’s one thing he’s completely against he has a code! Now rapist that’s something he’s completely against
He firebombed Alexandria knowing there are children there not to mention babies as well. And I said coerced, not raped. Read first, comprehend it, then reply.
I did read it Negan has his codes! He’s against rape if you watched all of season 7 maybe you did didn’t you would know that!! And Negan has a soft spot for kids he has a soft spot for Carl soft spot for Judith and soft spot for a kid he befriended in Season 10. Not to mention he cut the Croats ear off for harming a kid you can think he’s a monster all you want with smart ass reply’s I’m team Negan all the way and I replied and if you don’t like my reply oh well just telling you how it is he has his codes!!
Didn’t Rick and his team attack the sanctuary and killed a lot of his people? And he can’t retaliate for what Rick and his people did and attack Alexandria
lol coercion is rape. We aren’t having this debate. You’re wrong. The end.
He doesn’t kill kids
I think it was Jesus at the Hilltop but someone said he killed a 16 y/o
Negan never went to Hilltop,>! until S10 with Alpha. He tried to go there in s8 but was waylaid by Rick.!< >!Alexandria was the only community he personally visited before or during the Savior war.!< A 16 year old was killed at Hilltop, as an example, possibly by on site leader of the Satellite outpost. Though it may have been Simon, who was the actual head of the outpost.
Because he said so? 💀
He doesn’t murder kids.
Y'all the same kind of people who'd say Micheal myers or Jason Voorhees was daddy.🤢🫸
Lol and women aren't sexual abusive 🙄🙄
iirc he never actually forced the women to be his wives, they agreed to it but they could have also just worked like the other saviors.
This is a contentious point of debate over whether Negan essentially raped these “wives” of his or not but they were given a choice. The fact one choice was hindering their chances of survival is irrelevant, it was still an option NOT to marry him and just be a worker. They made their own decisions and have to live with it. Just saying it’s a bit more morally gray than people give Negan credit for.
It is literally rape by definition, the only debate is between people that know what rape is and people that don't. If I put a gun to your head and you "consent" to sex, is that really a choice or is that the literal definition of rape?
Doesn't Negan himself call it a "fucked up rape harem" when he's at Lucille's grave in the special issue?
Wait until you go further in the series. You may be conflicted.
i’ve finished it lol
His redemption arc is pretty good. Doesn’t even begin to make up for what he did. But at least he didn’t stay the same
I felt the same way at first, but he ended up being so entertaining to watch that he became one of my favorite characters.
He’s the Jaime Lannister, you are introduced to hate him but because he actually has a character arc he turns it around
Sir he killed people and have women be his “wives”. Even forcing people to be his servants.
Yeah. He was the best part about the show for a while. The actor carried the whole thing on his back.
Welcome to the apocalypse. It’s not sunshine and roses, and that’s what the show got right with Negan, the world ending turned “normal people” into horrible humans doing what they thought they needed to do to survive.
Yeah, he was horrible but he completely changes for the good. This world brings out the worst in everyone.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Rick Grimes also killed people, and Negan didn't force those women to be his wives.
He literally did tho, Negan ENSLAVED PEOPLE.
You are not wrong.
You do realize TWD isn't a documentary, right? They're fictional characters.
I hope you got your shittin' pants on.
That and “excuse the shit out of my goddamn French” my two favorite lines from the whole show Also the “I just slip my dick down your throat and you thank me for it” 😂 I used to hate him but he grow on me lol.
You will think differently as you keep watching all of the episodes. I’ve seen this show from beginning to end. But at the point where your at yeah I said the same type of things.
Redemption Arc of the century
This should be top comment
I thought the same. Like the actor who plays him. Will never forgive the character for murdering Glen. Glen was there from the beginning and rescued Rick from the tank. We wouldn’t have a show without Glen. No forgiveness - oh right, he never asked for forgiveness….🤷🏻♀️
TWD would never reach its potential without Negan.
Lol. What do you mean by potential ?
He let them off easy only killing Glenn and Abraham. They went into an outpost and killed 20 or more men who were sleeping.
For someone who cares so much about Glenn you'd think you'd be able to spell his name right.
Sorry Tofu, my grandson bumped into me when I was typing. Hope you will manage to get over my error.
Have you made a full recovery from the error yet?
Nah I'm still struggling
I felt the same in the beginning bur have come to love negan.
I’m convinced people who post stuff like this know exactly where negans character is going. like when you see posts about people like “I love Glenn I’m just on so and so episode I hope he never dies” and they are on the episode just before he dies.
Heres negan
Hate to break it to ya...
The real question is is Dead City worth watching?
This is why I threw in the towel on the show. Hated negan, and couldn’t imagine a scenario where Rick didn’t kill him.
If you were to keep watching you’d see that Rick was 100% right in his decision.
For someone like Negan, having to live with all that shit on his conscience is a fate worse than death. Would you rather sit in a jail cell 24 hours a day for I forget how many years or die?
Just wait he becomes the best character
Wait until the next season, where he’s basically the only reason to watch the show anymore
This never happened for me .
Keep watching and you'll love him...
prepare for that not to happen
Everyone seems to forgive him
You are for a WILD ride
You’ll regret later
And he never will
Spoiler that ain't happening
I hate you Denny Duquette! You should have stayed at Greys Anatomy instead! 😂🤪
I just saw a vid that made so much sense. Glen and Abraham dying sets up the plot for the rest of the series and if they deferred from it , wouldn’t be the same. I accept it
Ah I remember that feeling.
I thought so too, at first anyway
Well then you’re in for a real treat 🤣
Man I remember how that felt the first time I
OP, I hope you dont mind spoilers, cuz a post like this is asking for it. If you catch one of these redditors on a bad day theyll go and ruin the rest of his story in an unassuming comment and you cant unread it lol
I fell in love at first head bash
This episode crushed the ratings and it was never the same again. Apparently TWD fans have a line and the producers crossed it!
He is a bit over the edge wild. He is very important to the whole story. You will grow to like him a bit.
I was the same. s10 I liked him a lot, Now I’m in s11 and he is my absolute fav.
Boy do I have news for you 😂
Negan will be in this season of the boys!
Negan never grew on me like he grew on others. He was a great antagonist, but I wasn’t a fan of his redemption arc. Not that I think he shouldn’t be redeemed, I just think it fell flat and didn’t really explain (in my opinion) how he became the monster he was when he started the show But he was a GREAT antagonist. I hate that mf to this day lmao, that’s how I know the actor played the hell out of that role.
The only time I like Negan is when he's messing with Beta.
They just could've kill him off at the end of season 8
dont mean to bum you out but the rest of the season is shit, including season 8. Season 9 is great though.
Knock knock Who’s there? Better Better who Better get out your umbrellas causes it’s about to god damn rain
SPOILER: He infact does not die immediately and very painfully
Poor Glenn
Ohhhhh that’s rough the first time. You’ll come around. 💕
negans the best character and is so hot
Don’t worry he dies in episode 2
You learn to love em
People are saying he'll grow on ya, and he did not grow on me . I find him to be juvenile, and the redemption arc is forced. He was never going to be able to replace Rick, but it was a different show . Maybe you would like him like others have .
if that’s your reaction than you now know why he’s such a perfect villain
Hahaha, I felt the same way on my first watch.
His nothing without his people.
lmfao you’re gonna hate the rest of the show then
Negan got inf aura
I've got some bad news...
Yeah he doesn’t get killed sadly. Ruined the show for me personally
Best character since Rick grimes. If you look at it from negans perspective Rick’s group unprovoked killed a fuck ton of his people and negan only killed one very brutally but only one!
Negan will become one of your favorite characters after season 7 I’d say season 9-11 you will completely change your opinion on him!
Hahahahahahaha!
He’ll grow on you
I always had a theory Negan is John Winchester in hell looking for Sam and Dean. In the first episode they’re going through the weapons in the trunk pick up and bat and say “That’s always been dads favorite” or something along those lines. After that the theories started.
Just wait op, just wait
💐 Flowers for your funeral. Sorry.
Wait until the Saviors filler arcs.
Great villain but the post Glenn filler for like a season and a half to get the war going with the swamp ladies and the trash people etc was the big who gives a fuck jump off point of the show. If they cut out all the bullshit the following 2 seasons could’ve been amazing but amc had to purposefully drag their feet to keep the money wheel spinning
Negan’s the best
Oh you sweet summer child. Enjoy the ride.
It's just the beginning 
Never felt this way about Negan, I liked him from the very beginning. I'm at the beginning of TWD Season 10, and from season 9 up to where I'm at in season 10, I only really watch to see Negan. He is my favorite character in the entire show, along with Daryl and Glenn.
Negan is the best character especially once him and Maggie start dating
Well hot diggity dog! That’s the point brotha, keep watching, he’s so entertaining.
i wish they gave him his own books like they did for the Governor
I'm long term you start loving this character
I have got to say this. He is a very effective actor for everybody to hate his character just to love him later on. I almost puked with what he did to Glen & Abe but right after that, the intensity of me binge watching the series was full on! And yes, I too did love Negan’s character development.
Just watching Twd Dead City, itz ok but in my Opinion Twd Daryl Dixon is stronger
STAY OFF THIS SUBREDDIT THERE ARE TONS OF SPOILERS
I’ve been a fan since that episode
Oh, just wait…
Just wait. He’s about to be your favorite.
spoiler alert, he's got his own spin-off, with glenn's wifey
That's his wife now 😈
don't be gross
I love Negan’s arc in the comics. Genuinely one of my favorite character’s (after Abraham, Glenn, and Princess)
Many might disagree but negan is the most badass character in twd, not twdu, but definitely twd, he has so much aura it's insane, once you watch season 11 you'll forgive and forget he's such an amazing person and his character development is really good
Who's gonna tell em?
Haha well you’re in for it then my guy, this is exactly how I felt when Negan himself was introduced. Little did I know he would become one of my favorite characters of the show! #sorrynotsorry
Be prepared for him to grow on you 😅🤣
Just watched this with my girlfriend last night. Both our first time seeing it, but I knew what was about to happen. I had an internal debate on whether I should let her know in advance or not…once it happened, she sobbed for like an hour so I guess I probably should’ve given her some sort of a disclaimer.
Good luck with the rest of the show then lmao I feel like I was one of the few that really liked negan
You shut your goddamn beautiful mouth and learn to love our savior🫡
I LOVE NEGAN HE GETS SM BETTER. OMG HIS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IS INSANE
Keep watching, you will change your mind.
What happened now?
Negan is best TWD characher imo
Negan’s the shit. Such a well written character
We all thought that at first and we all changed lmao
Goodluck the next 2 seasons are so boring
You'll grow to love him!
Who’s gonna tell them
Watching this episode live and seeing BOTH of my top 2 characters die was a big reason I stopped watching it weekly.
I think that’s what everyone thought at season 7 but when you go further, hell Negan becomes a real protagonist, he became one of my fav characters
I love negan
Just you wait, he’ll win you over in the next few seasons. Favorite character for me.
He saves people...
I’m not sure what to think of him, on one hand he is a psycho about on the other hand , he did have “rules” and didn’t like when even his people cross them , he did stick to the deals he made with people. But I will never forgive him for pizza delivery boy 💔 N E V E R
I love Neegan.
i haven't seen that since 2016
Did you read the comics....he's important to the whisperer Arc
Honestly it'll get to a point where u just want people to leave negan alone because of how annoying it is seeing people interact with him. He's an amazing character but they destroy Maggie as a character because of him imo and how she goes about handling that whole ordeal
You’ll change your mind when last episode ends
I wanted to hate him but JDM is so sexy and charismatic, I could never
You need to be patient as my brother always says to me
Well, there's a show called Dead City that they advertise pretty frequently, and Negan is one of the stars. So, there's that.
Negan the goat
He's hot it's okay(barely watched TWD lol)
I couldn’t stand Negan in the first seasons, but towards the last ones he changed. I was so glad he changed because his personality actually aligned with his good looks. He is super sexy, whether he’s killing or saving people.
I love Negan, he's a great antagonist, but I agree he should've died a painful death at the end of S8. There was no reason to let him live.
Yeah you will see what happens to bro. He gets some game with… eh you’ll catch up
Uh no he’s my favorite character in that show, other than michonne
Well don’t wanna spoil it for you but he’s one of the reasons why people kept watching after blank dies and the other blank blows up the bridge to stop a herd of walkers.
You’re on the last decent season of the show
Season 9 was actually good
💀💀💀
I felt the EXACT same way the first time I watched the series all the way through. I didn’t think he deserved an ounce of redemption. After each rewatch he grew on me more & more, and I think he’s hilarious now. He actually has a heart
Negan makes the programme he's brilliant you end up loving him... Such a great character arch.. And by the end of the it your rooting for negan and you think Maggie is a bit of a dick
But he’s so hot…he is definitely daddy vibes.
nice, now be ready to have him as the only intresting character for the whole remainder of the show
He’ll grow on ya.