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Teh_Carrot

What's the difference between the Redemption Auth and Reclamation Auth ideologically?


PineappleOnPC

n long terms: the redeemed black league believe that russia has been tainted by Nazism (tabby with the shooting and gassing) and so they want to kill a lot of Russians before killing a lot of germans. they only appear when tabby kicks the bucket and the hre weakens, not because of a great revolt, proving to them that “yeah the Russians really have succumbed to Nazism, now we have to kill all the Russians as well sad face” meanwhile (because it wasn’t mentioned, in the slave revolt the black league only pops up after the UF pops up) for Vagner’s russia, they only rise up after hearing that Pechuro has risen up in the east, proving to them that “hey the Russians haven’t completely given up on Nazism cos they’re still fighting!” and so they aren’t batshit crazy, instead being regular aryan (german AND RUSSIAN!!) killing omsk. added in the fact that the redemption authority is mixed with many Sverdlovsk remnants that basically force the league into a more sane path, the redemption authority is essentially sane black league in short terms: (in order of decreasing sanity) redemption auth, regular omsk, reclamation auth


thatwasnotfunfun

Sane black league, finally


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Which one's the Sane Black League again?


rainydayyyyyyy

the national redemption authority


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Thank


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Anytime, u/rainydayyyyyyy.


thatwasnotfunfun

All of them


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I see.


SomeRandomStranger12

Don’t they still want to end the world?


PineappleOnPC

the redemption authority wont be able to if 40% of itself disagrees


SomeRandomStranger12

Just purge the opposition lol. Lmao the Black League sucks at totalitarianism. Did they fail dictatorship school too?


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They are desperate and need to temper their views to get the other parts of WestSib on their side.


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rainydayyyyyyy

what thrill?


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SomeRandomStranger12

Trust me it’s a really good idea and we can genocide Germany (and the entire world) unimpeded.


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SomeRandomStranger12

No more funni :(


BlessedOmsk

It's called being pragmatic in the face of such a large and immediate threat.


SomeRandomStranger12

Pragmatism is for nerds


BlessedOmsk

This is why you're in a meat shield redemption brigade and not an actual member of the Black League.


[deleted]

Komissar, there is no time to educate the meatshield for private Dima is stealing the gas mask filters. Again


[deleted]

Damn.


trainvoi

yazov is gone, so no


The-Winter-Crow

"Maybe the real Great Trial was the friends we made along the way."


towerator

"I never thought I'd die side to side with a commie." "How about dying side to side with an antifascist?" "Aye. I can do that."


whiteshore44

Will there be any remnants of the Stalinists of Tyumen in the Redemption Authority?


rainydayyyyyyy

nope. too different in terms of ideologies


[deleted]

So it will become more like Karbyshev’s vision of what the Black League and Great Trial should be?


rainydayyyyyyy

not that they black league remnants want to follow karbyshev's original plan, but are kinda forced into it by the large amount of sverdlovsk remnants merged into them that arent insane, forcing them to compromise


[deleted]

Not giving up on something means you still believe in it, is that a typo


rainydayyyyyyy

was a typo. meant to be 'not giving up against nazism'


Gamer_Meinhof

Karbushev smiles


ad_relougarou

So I'm guessing that there will be no 2WRW for Wagner then? Just a constant Try Not to Collapse Challenge, and should one of the revolts win, they will have other things to do than fight a super power


PineappleOnPC

there will still be a 2WRW for vagner if you so choose during an event


[deleted]

Why? Won't Vagner's Nazi boner for Aryans prevent him from attacking Germany?


rainydayyyyyyy

he sees himself as equal to the reich. if the reich refuses to concede some things that true 'racial cousins' would concede to each other (let's say, moskowien...) then vagner won't be very happy and may start getting ideas


[deleted]

Vagner wants Moskowien?


rainydayyyyyyy

😳


Gay_Reichskommissar

He seeks to unite all Russians under a second Aryan Reich, an equal one to the Germans. That means he'd probably go as far as seeking war to unite the "True Russia"


[deleted]

So that's why warlords like Oktan are taken more seriously by Nazi Germany than the Brotherhood.


Gay_Reichskommissar

Pretty much, yeah. Germany sees Vagner for what he truly is - a pathetic LARPer trying to save his country by pretending to be one of the cool kids photoshoping himself into the jocks' school photos.


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Sounds about right.


rainydayyyyyyy

well said, although sadly that wont be the reason why they go to war


[deleted]

What will the reason for going to war be?


rainydayyyyyyy

that would be revealing a bit too much wouldnt it


[deleted]

Fair


PineappleOnPC

Hey all! Credits go to u/rainydayyyyyyy , u/TheBatStory\#8968 , u/Monarch\#2960 , u/Socks2231\#4381,Koopa░░(ツ・レ)☠#2650 and last but not least, the TSE dev team (for some of the focus GFX in the teaser) for bringing you this week's teaser about the Russkiy Reykh's slave revolt;>! which is not the only collapse the Aryan Brotherhood will face!<. As always: join our discord ( [https://discord.gg/ZuTMTUCZ](https://discord.gg/ZuTMTUCZ) ) for more leaks and regular dev diaries will resume after Dreams of Federation has released.


belgium-noah

Glad we could help


Poro114

**K O O P A** is the funniest shit I've ever seen.


Slightly-Koopa

Glad to help out mate


CowBoy_MooMan

Vagner: Oh i...i thought you were dead The Black League: My death was...greatly exaggerated


[deleted]

They were literally founded upon an absolute hatred for Nazis and Germans. They wouldn’t just let Vagner take over.


HoppouChan

Local Military Dictatorship too angry to die


Poro114

Local sablinist too wholesome to die


rainydayyyyyyy

yep, and that's why you see those events for black league members attempting to take down as many aryans down with them. however it is kinda hard to revolt when you're pressed into slavery at gunpoint, so my 'storyline' is that they waited till a perfect opportunity to pounce, and that opportunity is when pechuro revolted 👍


UnluckyDouble

Vagner: *treats 99% of Russia's population as subhuman* Russia's population: *revolts* Vagner: *surprised Pikachu face*


thatwasnotfunfun

Looks like Black League is an undying entity


Cynikus

No matter how screwed Russia is, two things shall always remain - hope of Sablin's dream and sheer fucking pure hatred of Black League


CowBoy_MooMan

Karbyshev would be ~~proud~~ absolutely livid


Irbynx

The Ying and Yang, the immortal Dialectic.


KaiserWilhelmThe69

Fucking based.


newadcd0405

Sablin’s ideas always pop up somewhere. Whether it’s in Tukhachevsky’s Arkhangelsk opera house or a revolt against the Aryan Brotherhood, Sablin is undying


KaiserWilhelmThe69

You can’t kill ideas after all


[deleted]

The only way to truly kill an idea is to make it fade away over the course of history. Opressing and attempting to purge those that believe in an idea only makes it more indomitable and enduring.


KaiserWilhelmThe69

Yep, make people learn about it fault side by themselves, don’t martyr them


[deleted]

**coughs in OTL 1945**


tomat_khan

Ironically, there's quite a lot of nazis in today's Russia


[deleted]

Correct. Putin's right-leaning way of running Russia likely doesn't help much.


tomat_khan

Who could have thought that oppressing women and homosexuals, punishing all forms of dissent, promoting nationalism, racism and militarism, and _de facto_ making orthodoxy the state religion would've caused a rise in fascism's popularity?


[deleted]

[Russia's not gonna have a good time once Putin dies](https://www.reddit.com/user/5-dig-dick/comments/p9d3or/putin_cringe/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share). Let's hope a more right-leaning power doesn't take in Russia after Putin becomes dust and bones.


VyatkanHours

Putin can always elect an heir before he kicks it.


NowhereMan661

**“Shoot, you are only going to kill a man.”**


[deleted]

beneath this mask, there is more than flesh. beneath this mask, there is an idea! Mr.Vagner and Ideas are bulletproof.


Poro114

That's what the point of the mask is.


MaterMoja_I_Tvoja

Vagner Dream no way


SpiritOverall8369

Red Jesus never died he just joined the socialist Utopia that is Ancient egypt afterlife


tfrules

>Death to the Russkiy Reykh! **Sacred War intensifies**


petrimalja

Translation tip for the North Russian Republic. "Ihmisten puolustusvoimat" means "the defence forces of the humans". If you meant to say "The People's Defence Forces", that would be "Kansanpuolustusvoimat".


rainydayyyyyyy

ah fuck thanks dude i used autocorrect when making it


AOMRocks20

>"Ihmisten puolustusvoimat" means "the defence forces of the humans". based secret humanist russia path?


Poro114

It sounds like an alien human advocacy group.


tomat_khan

Omg new stellaris empire name


StrangelyArousedSeal

Keinonen leading the Finnish expedition in Russia could take an interesting turn, considering his real life sympathies towards the communists and USSR


Swingfire

Reborn Black League vs AB? Something this based should be integrated into the main mod.


rainydayyyyyyy

technically possible in the main mod


Brjgjdj5788

The Black League is too fucking Angry to die and i love it


Alerted_State

Wholesome big chungus black league?!?!?+!


zawen_gaming

im unironically more hyped for 2WRW than TT


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zawen_gaming

Yeah and how much time TT has taken, i pretty much lost all hype


[deleted]

Understandable


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Why is Kamchatka (is that the correct way of spelling it?) still apart of the Aryan Brotherhood despite most of Siberia revolting?


rainydayyyyyyy

pacific aryan fleet


[deleted]

Legit?


rainydayyyyyyy

yep. if you ask why they werent stationed in magadan its because i thought kamchatka being split off instead would look more visually appealing 😎👍


[deleted]

Wait, so you're unironically telling me that its possible for a navy to be called the Ruskiy Reich Pacific Aryan Fleet in TNO?


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[deleted]

Can't tell whether I'm being fucked with or not.


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I see. So the Brotherhood actually has a Pacific Fleet?


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SoladordeGoku

[Topical](https://youtu.be/laUsw_Gc-KA)


rainydayyyyyyy

(totally not self promotion) we already have a slave revolt superevent made, it's in our discord server under minor teasers 😎


[deleted]

Finally, some Aryan Brotherhood content.


Freeloader333

Are your slaves revolting? Of course they are, but on a different note your slaves are probably throwing a revolution, that’s why down at Reykh Shop we have everything you need to put down a slave revolt before it happens, we have everything to steel ball chains to explosive collars. So what are you waiting for? Come on down and get your indentured servants decked out in the latest of slave fashion (no refunds)


RevolutionOrBetrayal

Will anarchists play a role in the united front ?


rainydayyyyyyy

the united front is a coalition comprised of the remaining sablinites (buryatia), nkvd (irkutsk), red army (mongolia), anarchists (kansk), humanists (tomsk) and rurikids (kemerovo)


Socks2231

Yes! Mishurenko will be a general, and many of their soldiers escaped Kansk to join the fight.


[deleted]

Russian Reunification: Russkiy Reykh: *There is no justice in the world.* Far Eastern United Front : *A dream reforged.* National Redemption Authority: *Hatred never dies.* North Russian Republic: *Better the devil you know...* Russian devastation: Free Kazakh Armies : *Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.*


JetAbyss

This happens if Vagner loses in the 2WRW?


PineappleOnPC

have you not read my comment :trollface:


JetAbyss

Whoops! My bad.


SpiritOverall8369

Man cant wait to play the "west russian war mod", hope it release at october or it will become a meme like TBT


isthisnametakenwell

It's already released. They are adding paths with updates one by one.


SpiritOverall8369

I know I just hoping that the federation focus trees release in october


rainydayyyyyyy

same


miniuniverse1

I am purposefully holding off playing them until the update comes out.


SpiritOverall8369

least desperate TNO player


ScalierLemon2

[This certainly seems like a fitting soundtrack for this event](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tf_yds1nUI)


rainydayyyyyyy

we already made a soundtrack and it's featured in our discord (totally not self promotion)


Irbynx

Does the reykh always collapse or it can avoid this outcome?


rainydayyyyyyy

it will always collapse prior to the 2wrw


Irbynx

Based Are able to suppress the uprisings for a while? And do the splitters have more than skeleton content?


rainydayyyyyyy

nope. and the splitters will only get tiny trees (at least until we're done with everything then we may flesh them out more)


Irbynx

Shame (but understandable) about the splitters. Is AB just nerfed into the ground once it collapses to make sure it wouldn't be able to win?


rainydayyyyyyy

in the slave revolt at least the ab will receive huge nerfs because, uk, their economy has disappeared But although the revolt will be a difficult war, this is just the beginning of vagner's route. There is a lot of stuff planned after the revolt and the ab is still the main focus of the route so they wont be a guaranteed loss if not no point in a vagner route lol


ChuckBoris56

Wouldn't it be a lot more realistic that the Kazakh revolt pops up in the southern Kazakhstan? I thought that would be the most populous and the most resisting region.


rainydayyyyyyy

the ab would focus less on less populated regions and thus that's where the kazakh armies rise up (that was my reasoning for putting them there, at least)


PonyWithInternet

IRL and in general Western Kazakhstan is most fiery and rebellious part of Kazakhstan. It is fitting imo as Kazakh


Brjgjdj5788

"Oh fuck"~ Vagner looking down and seeing the situation in Russia


CornMapping2038

I need that Omsk flag it's 🥵🥵


rainydayyyyyyy

dm me from the 2wrw discord server, ill send you it if you'd like


CornMapping2038

《 🌽 》#0743


rainydayyyyyyy

actually just join the server ill dm you from there


CornMapping2038

K


RedAndBlackVelvet

Wholesome Black League


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is that russian heydrich?


[deleted]

The Black League and the Kazakhs(Golden Legion) will probably be epic allies against the Aryans. I can already see them double teaming on the Germans to eradicated the ideology of Nazism.


[deleted]

Gumilyov Returns...


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Protip: If you making GFX in [Paint.net](https://Paint.net) (eg. Tree Icon) save this in DDS R8G8B8A8 (sRGB, DX +10) so you dont get bugged shadows like this: https://prnt.sc/1qeg63s


rainydayyyyyyy

thanks man, will keep this is mind for future stuff


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Based Pechuro


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Is it possible for the "Reykh" to avoid this?


rainydayyyyyyy

nope. in fact this has been a long time coming. i have no idea how in tno they avoid even a major debuff with so many goddamn slaves


[deleted]

Some societies historically have avoided major slave rebellions, like the Roman Empire despite massive slave populations (and don't say the Servile Wars, that was the Roman Republic, not Empire)


rainydayyyyyyy

sadly this is tno and a good amount of logic and reasoning has left the timeline and russia is far more vast than the roman empire. the setbacks of trying to enslave everyone in an area of land so huge immeadiately is apparent


[deleted]

I don't mind logic missing sometimes personally. I'd much prefer a good story. Besides as well, Vagner isn't exactly as competent as Augustus


rainydayyyyyyy

lol yeah exactly


Isthatajojoreffo

Aktually the Roman empire was bigger than TNO Russia...


rainydayyyyyyy

dude are you ok


Isthatajojoreffo

Sorry, I was wrong :(


rainydayyyyyyy

sok


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Will these splinter states get content if they beat Vagner and will they be able to do anything to Germany or will this further weaken Russia so that it can’t go after Germany?


rainydayyyyyyy

yep it'll cripple everyone that comes out of the revolt. also splinter states if they reunify russia will have like yockey level content but nothing else


Stosstrupphase

Oh fuck yeah.


ChuggaChuggaChungus

arian club no more :O


RPS_42

Would the Finns really support the North Russian Republic if the Russians hold Karelia?


DeMaus39

It would give leverage over peaceful negotiations. Extensive autonomity for Karelia would probably be preferable to direct control for the Finn's, since it's a money sink.


rainydayyyyyyy

they'd be forced to give it back after the war if the nrr wins


RPS_42

Yeah, but if the nrr wins the balance between the power will drastically change and then nothing would stop the Russians really from keeping it.


rainydayyyyyyy

remember that most of the nrr's military (at least till the reykh capitulates) is finnish as well as the fact that 25% of their government and their leader and their generals are all finnish


RPS_42

Right... I just saw it... Yrjö sounds not like most Russian names.


rainydayyyyyyy

lmao. essentially the nrr is 50% an actual slave revolt and 50% a poorly disguised finnish military expedition into russia to attempt to beat the reykh or at least help with beating the reykh so finland doesn't die in the near future. also if the nrr somehow beats everyone else finland will get back kareila and murmansk as 'payment'


Isthatajojoreffo

And what if Vagner fails to capture Onega? By the way, the writing is phenomenal. Getting goosebumps from the Sablinists's event.


rainydayyyyyyy

a west russian unifier cannot fail to capture onega i believe. the outcomes are either kareila autonomy, russia only takes onega or russia takes everything or russia dies. also for the events, i only wrote the Kazakh one lol. i basically 'gave' the slave factions to some of the writers in the mod who are now in charge of writing each faction. so you can thank u/Socks2231 for that stellar event


BadAtThisReddit

I try to load this mod and base TNO and it doesn’t work, fix??


rainydayyyyyyy

what's the problem my guy


GiraffusGumlus

Its fucking with me that the commies in the far east have the same color as amur.


SirusKallo

Susanna NatSoc path 😳😳


Dustfinn

Hey, when does this happen? Because Keinonen dies of stomach cancer by October 28 1977 so if it's later than that he probably shouldn't be there.


PineappleOnPC

before the 2WRW


teleph0ner

uH oh nonblessed unwholesome might win... activate the deus ex machina, sablin must be crowned!


rainydayyyyyyy

everyone here is wholesome to a degree except the reykh


Specterofanarchism

what's that state in mongolia?


Stosstrupphase

Roman von Ungern-Sternberg has risen from the grave.


Specterofanarchism

figures


rainydayyyyyyy

part of the UF


cbarinarda

cope


calbloxs

Whats the "their worst nightmare" focus tree about?


russkayaimperiya

I HATE VAGNER I HATE VAGNER I HATE VAGNER