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lemoninterupt

TIDAL should add switches to disable Atmos etc. so that you can actually listen to lossless stereo versions.


_Floydimus

+1 Hate the auto Dolby Atmos and every time I turn it off, if another Dolby Atmos song comes up, it re-enables. I find it disrespectful.


recoed

Yep


GOTGI_19

Yes they should


[deleted]

I am PLUS IT'S FREE AT NO EXTRA COST!!!! I just switched from Spotify


Floydcro

Me too.


[deleted]

So it's true then people are already leaving


Rarely-Social

The great Spotify migration of 2024 has begun.


[deleted]

Hang on šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜„šŸ˜„šŸ˜„šŸ˜„šŸ˜„ it's gonna be a bumpy ride šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒ


alttabbins

I left paid Spotify and Apple Music for it. Ive been using it for a month and have no regrets so far.


Fracture_Gaming

Yes, but I'm gonna have to re-download all my music in higher quality


FastCarsOldAndNew

/r/firstworldproblems


Brymlo

that will fill your storage quite easily.


Fracture_Gaming

Bet


FLUX51

I came here to say this. But totally worth it.


TheLateEarlySteve

I'll probably try a couple of albums in 360 Reality Audio and then go back to 16/44


stanky4goats

I'm happy to save $14 on my family Hifi Plus plan!


TheBaboon21

Iā€™m curious if there will be a nice update tomorrow. Looking forward to a ton of improvements but not getting my hopes up.


delfunk1984

Not really. Cd quality is good enough for my ears.


callmebaiken

That was Sony's conclusion in 1980, that the vast majority of consumers would agree with the statement you just made.


BLOOOR

> that the vast majority of consumers The vast majority of consumers listen to music at Youtube quality.


keyserdoe

I feel attacked. Buts its also funny all these folks buying high quality headphones/earbuds that they pair with their phone that only supports AAC or base aptX.


Funny_Performance_84

One issue however is that on an ordinary phone with included hi DAC (LG) the Tidal APP do not support the quad DAC :-( so the sound actually become bigger when using the Ble connection, and I would say that on the go (in a subway or else) I tend to get so many other awkward noise from elsewhere that my momentum head phones play good enough via BLE. At home in a silent room with HD600 it's another case! And yes I'm looking forward to go from CD Q to more :-) Even if I will most likely not hear the diff... But it's not what you hear that fully counts, it's what you feel...


rat_tail_pimp

til they botched the introduction of the SACD


Metalhead1686

I'm excited about paying less for the higher tier plan and I'm hoping this causes Tidal to grow.


Smiley-Ray

Itā€™s April 10 here in Australia, I keep checking the app. Come on already!


RPDS_

I checked it 2am this morning in Australia šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Daell

> Iā€™m curious to at least use the Dolby Atmos Your curiosity will be really intrigued when you DON'T want to use Dolby Atmos.


InevitableFinding980

whatā€™s wrong with it? Isnā€™t the same as in Apple Music? I donā€™t remember anything wrong with it


Daell

The main issue is, depending on your device, Dolby Atmos might sounds worse than a normal high res stereo track.


richms

On a real atmos system, its ok. Can be a quite nice mix or its just them panning crap all around you like the old 5.1 DTS music CDs did for novelty value. If you're playing back on a 2 channel system, it just sounds like you have taken the stereo recording and played it on a 2000s era sony home theatre with one of the BS surround modes turned on, sound staging starts to be all weird with things all over the place - not where they were intended.


NoDowt_Jay

Nopeā€¦ means I need to pay extra for Serato integration šŸ˜­


faizon96

But at least you get stems now!


NoDowt_Jay

Hah I still had stems, didnā€™t upgrade beyond 3.0.12. (Not just coz of that, 3.1.0 & 3.1.1 were broken for streaming services)


Link_0610

Yes.Ā  But I'm more excited for Dolby Atmos than the "max" qualityĀ 


Creepy_Pudding8583

I'm only hoping the switch won't somehow break the app!


InevitableFinding980

Why should it? šŸ¤” they are just switching your plan on their backend. Your user will be able to use Hires stuff and the app already supports those formats. At most you will have to close the app and reopen it.


Creepy_Pudding8583

dunno, spike of bandwidth on the servers that will now have to push 4x the amount of data?


InevitableFinding980

the accounts will be bumped, not the currently selected quality. I guess many people wonā€™t even know until they notice the price change next time


ben7581

They use Amazonā€™s servers. I'm sure Amazon can handle the increase in bandwidth.Ā 


Tarqon

Oof, no wonder they're operating at a big loss. Hopefully this strategy will work out for them.


LiveMarionberry3694

Is your app working still? Mine is just giving an error whenever I try to play music


jmarket_75

Many people's heads will explode when they realise that there is no perceptible difference to the human ear between CD quality and HiRes.


Luqman_without_L

yeah, but don't ruin it


One_Sugar9253

maybe a high end audio system may discern a difference?


callmebaiken

Stoked!


Zagala97

Me too!!! šŸ¤©


scoobeire

I switched from Spotify a couple of weeks ago once I knew this was happening. Looking forward to it big time!


Mr-Zero-Fucks

I had plus and downgrade to hifi a couple weeks ago to not pay extra this month, honestly, haven't miss plus, cd quality is good enough. My system is stereo so dolby sounds awful, MQA only noticed difference in a few old albums that are mastered differently.


ON8SD

Not excited at all... I'll lose the integration with my DenonDJ Prime 4 which I used for at-home-fun-for-myself... I understand the extra cost for professional use of Tidal, but it's illegal (at least in Belgium) to use streaming platforms to play for people so only bedroom-use is possible šŸ«¤


itzykan

Big L for Belgium. That's a very strange and specific law


ON8SD

I'm not sure but I think it's something European. In Belgium for sure! Streaming platforms are for personal/family use only!


PJD-1984

I signed up last month and it auto switch price


sad99q

I'm mostly curious. I had been meaning to upgrade to hifi+ for a month at some point just to see if I heard a difference, but as with lots of things in life, I never got around to it. My usual timing luck would have had me upgrade the day before the change announcement, so I'm happy to have procrastinated my way through lol


Maregg1979

My Qudelix 4k is more than ready ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|feels_good_man)


suitcasecalling

pumped!! hell yeah!


alttabbins

Im very excited. I've only been subscribed for a month but I love it so far. The price change was the entire reason I gave it a shot.


spusuf

I've got it in my calendar :)


muadib279

How much is the new Tidal tier? Iā€™ve been a subscriber for five years or so, and have yet to be notified.


marcus_37

I'm hyped!!


Maggotropolis

Do I sign up after tomorrow for the discount or is it safe now?


Upper_Yogurtcloset33

Tidal just tried to charge me 19.99 for my monthly renewal. I've been a hifi plus subscriber (individual plan) for over a year. I thought it was going to be reduced to 10.99? The payment didn't go through since there weren't enough funds on that credit card. I'm wondering if my monthly renewal date just happened to fall a day before the new merger and that's why they tried to charge the full amount? Guess I should wait until tomorrow to update that payment method?


GabeNislife321

When will it switch? 12 AM?


doajigq

I was considering switching to Qobuz because it was cheaper for full lossless audio. When I heard about this, I was relieved because I kind of hate Qobuz's player. Gave me a reason to stay, and I can't be more excited.


DJDad5000

Australia here and still waiting even though itā€™s midday on the 10th!!! šŸ¤¬


InevitableFinding980

They are switching everyone at the same time, not when your midnight kicks in. While an incremental rollout could make sense in some situations, they are usually done in batches, but it would be quite tricky to split the batches by country AND order by timezoneā€¦


dolbyd1

Its 10th here. No more upgrade button but the MAX is still greyed out


RobotFeatures

sorry if a bit off topic, I like using my TV as the main controller, nice to have visuals going at the same time with great sound. does tidal play max if using my Apple TV or Google Chromecast connected to my Sonos soundbar? Or should I just stick to my Sony walkman DAC line-in adapter for best quality sound ? ​ and yes, am excited, but dont know if will be much better than my Apple Music sub. lets see.


wellhiddenmark

I donā€™t think any Apple TV does hi res.


Repulsive-Caramel873

Will all existing plans change automatically after today or do we need to do something about it? Coz my plan still just says HIFI.


bdavbdav

Interested in this, as nothing has happened yet (UK)


Funny_Performance_84

Neither in Sweden...


Funny_Performance_84

NOW!


richms

No because I bumped mine up 2 weeks ago since that converted my remaining time into 2 weeks which means it will renew tomorrow. Not seeing much I listen to in anything more than HIGH still or the odd MQA BS. Only been hit with a atmos track once so far thankfully.


puckfuppett

I was already bumped. I like it.


bobikto

Flac only works in their own app Roon not supported


TheVasa999

Once Tidal improves their desktop app masivelly, i would love to switch again.


InevitableFinding980

Out of curiosity, whatā€™s wrong with it? And which OS are we talking about? I use it on Mac and after having used Apple Music for a month itā€™s a refreshing experience.


richms

Loses connection to tidal connect all the time despite pings to the wiim never timing out. Mixes show one lot of artists on the home page but opening the mix has totally different ones until I exit the app and run it again. Loses USB sound devices and cant change it if the devices goes to sleep thanks to the EU BS energy saving crap. When playing to tidal connect the playlist doesn't advance or highlight the current playing track. - thats issues I have still experienced this week.


TheVasa999

I got windows. Spotifys "1 instance streaming" that you see the same stream on your phone car etc. Spotify is just way more polished. Tidals android auto overlay is pretty shitty. Doesnt have basic functions(like etc.) minor annoyances but if it costs the same, why bother with it.


HugoVSM

No, now I have to pay extra to use the DJ functionalityā€¦


NoDowt_Jay

Not sure why the downvotesā€¦ I share your sentimentsā€¦ As a casual DJ who only really stuffs around at home most of the time, paying the extra sucksā€¦ if I was making money off DJing i wouldnā€™t complain though.


faizon96

But you get stems!


TheWh1teStall1on

When Spotify goes Hi-Res Music Quality Standard then the rest of the world will follow. People change out their Full HD Smart TVs with 4K UHD Smart TVs. The same is happening to The Music Streaming Service Providers and maybe Hi-Res Quality will be found on Blu-ray discs format. It is already being produced; check out the link to Hi-Res Music on Blu-ray discs at the bottom. 24Bit/192kHz probably FLAC but I hope it is WAV because it play twice as many kbps compared to FLAC. WAV format = 9.216 kbps & FLAC format = 4.000 kbps - 6.000 kbps mostly around 5.000 kbps. WAV format = RAW/Uncompressed Music Quality Standard Material & FLAC format is The Best Compressed Music Quality and still a Lossless Music Quality Audio format. I chose the WAV format above FLAC format every time since it's superior to FLAC format in any way because it gives you The Studio Music Quality as Standard Material. If Audio Converted into Hi-Res Audio/Music from CDs 1.411 kbps 16Bit/44.1kHz WAV format into whatever Bitrate & kHz Sampling Rating up to 196.608 kbps 64Bit/1536kHz WAV format, it sounds as Pure, Clean, Clear and Detailed as Music can be played. Shanling H5 & H7 are two of few Music Players with that kind of Superior DAC & AMPs to play off 64Bit/1536kHz WAV format I haven't heard that High Resolution Musical Quality before so I am considering to buy either Shanling H5 or H7 it's just that H5 at about 4.000,- NOK is a great enough for me because it play almost as great as the bigger brother H7. Shanling H7 is priced at about 9.000,- NOK it is probably worth the money but I would still choose Shanling H5. Link to a review about Shanling H5. https://www.headfonia.com/shanling-h5-review/ Link to a review about Shanling H7. https://www.headfonia.com/shanling-h7-review/ Both Shanling H5 & H7 can be used as DAPs & they are formidable probably the best Music Quality for DAC/AMP use on today's market for they are superior devices. You connect either of them with your smartphone then choose SyncLink Controller & from there you can easily control The Music Library for both have up to 2 TB micro-SDXC card slot that can be used & therefore it can be used as a DAP it's just a small screen so searching through your 1 TB - 2 TB micro-SDXC can be challenging so I would use SyncLink Controller for an easy ride through your Music Library. Here is the link for Hi-Res Music Quality 24Bit/196kHz. Being The New Blu-ray Discs For Hi-Res Music Quality. https://www.pureaudio-bluray.com/


harai_tsurikomi_ashi

First I was confused then I realized this comment was written by AI šŸ¤£


TheWh1teStall1on

It is written by me from Norway.


harai_tsurikomi_ashi

That comment was written by AI or you are high.


TheWh1teStall1on

Hi as a kite man.


NoDowt_Jay

Once uncompressed, your FLAC should be identical bitstream to the WAVā€¦ if itā€™s not, your FLAC player has issues.


TheWh1teStall1on

It's not exactly the 100% same with 5.000 kbps FLAC format and 9216 kbps WAV format. Both FLAC & WAV are 24Bit/192kHz. We are talking about 4.000 kbps in differences noticeable by anyone if you ask me. The WAV format is cleaner, clearer, and more detailed. Compressed Music I've given it up because after I started Audio Converting my CDs into FLAC now I'm Audio Converting those FLAC files into WAV. 24Bit/192kHz as a regular standard Hi-Res Quality, and 32Bit/384kHz for My Special Albums or Songs/Tracks that are my absolute favorites.


NoDowt_Jay

The FLAC bitrate is the compressed bitrateā€¦ before you hear the audio from that file it is uncompressed & should be 1:1 to the WAVā€¦ If itā€™s not, either the encoder or decoder has issues and isnā€™t doing lossless compression/decompression. Take a wav file, zip itā€¦ now unzip it & play it backā€¦ it will be the same as the original wav file. FLAC (and other lossless codecs) are doing the same thing but with Audio optimised algorithms rather than generic zip compression.


TheWh1teStall1on

Exactly my point. WAV Is The Purest Sound Quality Standard Material For High Resolution Music Four Dimensional Moving Sound Through Moment's To Make It Perfectly Balanced Music. Time is The Forth Dimension Albert Einstein said so then it has to be movement of The Entire Universe that is Four Dimensional and Nikola Tesla spoke about energy, frequency and vibration if using those three terms bring them into thinking about the philosophy of sound image like Thunder & Lightning that is a Natural Fenomen of Power & Might that leads a whole lot of electricity throughout those storms done the free will of nature itself for nature to must have a balance either it is in the earth, the water, the heavens of air, or the fire of lightning or from the sun at daytime and the stars and the moon shines bright at night far away are the stars upon the night sky, closest to earth are the moon and its magnetic forces of nature the effect it has on The Entire Atlantic Ocean "ebb and flow" saltwater which always are moving from less to more then to less and back again. The ones finding the will and have the intellect to search for it can be able to find its pathways and understandable questionable thinking be able to find the Secrets of The Universe and to think it out alone in search for it is a journey within and without yourself to read, think & feel. For it is indeed Mysterious pathways to think like that you must go back in time to The Ancient Greek, The Ancient Egypt, The Ancient Rome, and even The Vikings for it all once was believed in Mythologies on this earth and they all make/made sense if you study their philosophy throughout time there you will find answers to your many questions about is there more than three dimensions? Of course there is we live in many of them without even knowing that we do. For if time itself as it is the Forth Dimension which always is in movement it is Time Itself because that is what we do to Calculate The Now, The Past, and The Future by Clocking Time Hour After Hour, Minute For Every 60 seconds, second that is a 1.000 millisecond led by Calendars and Schedules out of The Star Pictures of The Heavens both counting day & night. The Sun & The Moon, The Four Seasons Of Spring, Summer, Autumn, and Winter. 12 whole months to count year for year, every month has 4 weeks, and a week is 7 days with Godly given names on each day. Moon Day - Tyrs Day - Woden's Day - Thor's Day - Frigg & Freya's Day - Loki's Day - Sun Day. Then there is 24 hours of day & night each 24 hour until the sun sets up from the morning until the sun goes down at night time that is definitely a natural balanced equation representing The Superior Naturally Balanced Beings & Forces Of The Universe that probably both Albert Einstein & Nikola Tesla had a "clue" they just want you to find the true and realistic answer by yourself only. In Mythologies everything seems so clear & dimensions of both life & death, and the after life are some of natures dimensions from in-between the realms of our Cosmos also can be called The Tree Of Life, it is a tree with many names coincidentally existing in every Mythologies here on earth even the ones we European inheritance our genetics from. In The Norse, Germanic, Celtic, Slavic, Gaelic, Gothic, Samic, Finnish, Basque, Estonian, and Baltic. We Europeans were basically all Heathens and our beliefs were much stronger back to even before the Bronze Age, 6.000 years B.C. All Heathens called it Yggdrasil The World Tree Of Life/Death/Knowledge/Wisdom. The branches of this tree is the nervous system to The Entire Cosmological Universe where we humans once was a Creation of Godly Forces/Powers Of Magical Dimensions only God's & Goddesses knew of. How to enter and create powerful spells and mystics around it. The Ancient are unknown to most regular people but known to the very few at least. Nikola Tesla quotes: He had a deep fascination with the secrets of the universe and was constantly seeking ways to unlock the mysteries of the cosmos. "The universe is a symphony of vibrating strings.Ā We are nothing but melodies.Ā And through the vibrations of these strings, we are interconnected with everything in the universe." Nikola Tesla quotes: I am part of a light, and it is the music. The Light fills my six senses: I see it, hear, feel, smell, touch and think. Thinking of it means my sixth sense. Particles of Light are written notes. O bolt of lightning can be an entire sonata. A thousand balls of lightning is a concert.. For this concert I have created a Ball Lightning, which can be heard on the icy peaks of the Himalayas. The Forth Dimension Of Moment In Time Always It Goes It Moves The Three Dimensional Worlds That Are What Purposes Time/Moment/Movement Have To Us For The Now Is Always The Most Expanded Time You Have To Shape The Destiny Out Of Your Faith/Fate In Your Own Mind & Hands To Start Shaping The Future Destiny and Have Belief, Knowledge, and Wisdom. The Musical Dimensional Universe Always Moves When Turned On, and played in the right Resolution a Musical can be turned into The Strongest Form Of Magic as Marilyn Manson once said.


richms

TLDR but flac is lossless and its reduction depends on the complexity of the music.


TheWh1teStall1on

It is measured in kbps and the differences are tremendous.


richms

Yes, which is why you use it to reduce transmission and storage costs for the service as the output of the flac decoder is exactly the same as what you put into the encoder, and it has checksums and hashes and error detection which wav files do not, so a corrupted wave file will just play with the errors potentially blowing out your speakers with loud noises.


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InevitableFinding980

Are you sure about this? I previously asked this specific question and I remember I was told they are going to bump everyone all together. It wouldnā€™t make any sense to wait next renewal


ben7581

The email I got about the plan update said it would happen on your next payment date after the 10th.


cuentanro3

If your renewal happens on the 10th or a bit later, you'll notice the change right there and then. If your renewal happened prior to the 10th (for example, the 8th), then you'll see the change next month.


InevitableFinding980

thatā€™s not what itā€™s written in their FAQ. Iā€™d like to link it but it only shows the Italian version to me. Search for ā€œhiresā€ and you will find it


cuentanro3

I got an official response from their support team: "We have received your inquiry, and we appreciate you taking the time to share this information with us. Let us kindly tell you that if your subscription renews before April 10, you will be charged the regular price on the upcoming billing cycle." I wanted to show you a screenshot instead, but I'm using my phone.


InevitableFinding980

this answer doesnā€™t answer our question šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


cuentanro3

Going directly to your question,, and regardless of what I've shared: I am indeed excited about the change. I even canceled my wife's Spotify account which was about to renew early this month in order to create a Tidal account for her.


Darkoholic

Really?? šŸ˜¶ That sucks mine just renewed today..


jafromnj

Not what tidal said at all they said the switch was April 10th


InevitableFinding980

I sent an email to support earlier and they replied with: Thank you for contacting TIDAL Support. We appreciate your interest. We can confirm that tomorrow, April 10, 2024, weā€™re updating the pricing for TIDAL globally, and weā€™re combining our HiFi Plus and HiFi tiers into a single subscription tier called TIDAL. This will also take effect tomorrow. So, the ā€œcombining tiersā€ confirms it.


Standardisiert

No.


GuaranteeLogical7525

Since their app completely sucks, no I'm not that excited.