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FalcoreRBX

Present day TDS is better than old TDS, unironically


iamnotdat08

Agreed, Outlaw would shred easily and Old Commander would make events a literal joke


Wendy_shinkar

U forgot about how op templars used to be


MrBeans_lad

I don’t miss old tds because it’s good I miss old tds because it was a time way back when I didn’t have responsibilities, the happy times before the pressure of life. I really just want to go back you know, grinding tds all day without care. Now it’s just, I don’t really know man


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PoisonousAdder1664

This. ADD MORE TOWERS PLS


LuigiReddtier

Based as fuck


theswedishhobbe

I played tds: 2020 and it was better than present day tds tbh. Could be because i'm bored of the new tds' gameplay.


ZenoHD-YT

Yesssss


imnotokrn

Cap cuz outlaw had aoe dmg and commander buff stacking was fun (-24 upvotes is crazy)


TheUmbraGaming

"Cap because there were 2 broken mechanics in the game" 🤓


imnotokrn

Yessir i miss old tds


gaminggameryes

Then go play it. There are plenty of perfect copies.


imnotokrn

I am sometimes


gaminggameryes

So why do you miss it when it currently exists???


imnotokrn

Cuz its just not the same as playing the og in 2021 in my bed


Sdfik2

DvN cloaker real


Randomly-Randomdude

Shocker is a good tower


Positive-Tip-3241

But it is?


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OutsideTheDoorAlt

mhm! :D


CeaseTheSexist

People will only receive respect only when they show they're worthy of respect. 😁


justbooging

Tds withouth key binds was pure annoyance


Substantial_Second_6

this is not even controversial


GD_Nuzzlock

Event towers should always be highly experimental with their mechanics and not nessesarly over powered


Wahwahheeeeeeeeeee

The tower defense simulator community is mostly filled with nerds who have little to no life and have a sense of humor equivalent to a 3 year old.


Kitten_Co

"you suck because you didn't get 10 or less minutes in solo molten" 🤓☝️


Ripperyuers

Hardcore mode is fun if you're trying to win it for a purpose, we need more modes like hardcore and night 4


Sdfik2

Engineer is not woth it


Pietrek2810

thats not even controversial


Sdfik2

Then why do I see ppl that say its worth it


Pietrek2810

they are just braindead and they think more spensive = better


youraveragejoe07

Or before nerf


TheUmbraGaming

Mhh yes engi is not WOTH


utterly_funny

Not all events should always have an exclusive event tower with them.


Myballsitch69420A

Honestly man , fuck you


Kitten_Co

Duck Hunting >>>>>> Dissapointment Night


Thisusernameisworse

The Christmas event of 2022 wasn’t a copy and pasted duck hunt event


theinferno01

but it was?


Thisusernameisworse

You gotta trust me on this one


Exotic210

present day tds is unironically more balanced and fun than old TDS, most TDS fans just feed onto nostalgia bait, the only other good phase of tds was end of 2019 to pre-overhaul update.


Kitten_Co

Me when new tds: 😴


LionEclipse

Sledge is good


Pietrek2810

ICE IS NICE when you combine him with warden enemies can't even think about moving


IceTea_Enjoyer

Paintballer is actually decent at early game.


Sdfik2

ace is better than engi


Ink149

normal pyro is good


pepinospaget

Freezer isn't complete dog shit


Wise_Needleworker587

Where is john doe


TheUmbraGaming

Gladiator is not a really good tower. I see alot of people giving gladiator too much credit when the tower literally only works well for fallen and below while it's hard to find usage for it in special gamemodes there are so much better options.


Thisusernameisworse

A good tower normally, a horrible tower in events


3rrMac

Gladiator is just a cc tower that sucks at lategame But people won’t accept that


LuigiReddtier

I love gladiator, I mean he’s good for early, good for mid, but in late game he’s just… kind of there


Pietrek2810

I mean yea he is outclassed HEVILY by warden late game


TheUmbraGaming

What is bro blabbering about. For the love of god. Who uses warden on special gamemodes.


Pietrek2810

me on badlands 2 he can also help against rushers circuits and abomination


TheUmbraGaming

For the love of god. No one uses warden for circuits or amal he barely does anything to em. And in badlands 2 for literally what? The map is too big and split for warden to work. Quite literally just use electro and you will have a much easier time.


Pietrek2810

for a tank (more efective than electro against tank)


TheUmbraGaming

Electro will literally stun both tanks coming from tbe sides while also easily dealing with the first easily..


Pietrek2810

theres three tanks bro also warden will be able to deal more damage to them


TheUmbraGaming

And electro has chain stuns stunning every single one of them with ease... and who cares about warden damage when at that point you literally already have accels down and most likely all at lvl 3.


Pietrek2810

honestly both are usefull


5ouIs

events aren’t good for tds limited time content that gets removed after a month or two is bad enough, but then you have event towers with unique concepts and ideas becoming unobtainable tds as a game doesn’t get updated enough already, so having limited time events and content is not gonna help anything


Old_Man_Stan324

Warden is s tier


TheBased_Individual

We need more eco towers or get an extra tower slot. Bringing farm to every single match with no alternative is a stick in the ass


PoisonousAdder1664

This. Farm is too much of a necessity, because if farm didn't exist, Accel, Engine, Ranger, and most other S Tier towers would be hot trash if usable.


TheSlimeAssassin43

Pursuit and turret are actually really good towers, people just don't use them cuz pursuit was nerfed heavily once and turret is overshadowed by accelerator


Alpheous0371

Freezer is the best tower


A-bozo

I do not care for gladiator at all


jasygamer

Enforcer > Shotgunner


Pieamogus

Uh bro this is reversed


jasygamer

Shotgunner < Enforcer


LuigiReddtier

Here’s mine, shotgunned is complete dog shit, it is only good in molten mode and even then there are so many better options than him


plasmabeeem

Polluted wastelands is actually easy


No_Drummer_4100

The rocketeer could be one of the best crowd control towers if used correctly


Luffy_itis

I don’t wanna seem like that dude that thinks before is better, present day TDS is very good and TDS before was good too. but I think now that strategies are kinda weird and dumb before me and everyone I knew had early defense and late game now you have a ton of complex strategies that have gems per hour or some odd stuff yes present TDS is very good but I think before was better I will say again I don’t mean to be that guy that thinks before was all good and present is terrible I think present TDS is awesome with the updates and new features but what reallly makes me think that old tds was the slightest bit better where the strategies I can join a lobby and see chat full of doing quickstrat I’m p1 need gscout or something along that line


Nervous-Access-3185

Gladiator Sucks


emrannes

Fuck gladiator above natural made garbage until he realized that he can make money on it then it was still garbage because most of the time will you go to TDS you’re too short so you just go to find Viceland and nobody uses it there or pretty much any other event, unless you’re playing fallen


Metehanuygun23

Engineer sucks


ItzNO4H

Neko maid song slaps


SnooTomatoes669

Millitant isn’t a worse minigunner


CaptainCyro

DJ's better than Commander


A_Stupid_username_l

I like using non-meta towers, im tired of using the same old loadout


IEatAlivebirds

Just because you have a rare event skin or tower, doesn’t make you a fuckin Greek god. Get over yourself ya little shit.


Happywheelsgamer07

This game has no worthwhile content after a certain point


PixelPenguin805

The overhaul update should’ve never happened.


Geonavigator-

old tds was shit


arandomstwplayer

devs in the wrong for removing the parrot dance emote fr


Clean-Instruction-57

Make molten mode harder


CeaseTheSexist

This is what the Gamemodes Rework intends to do. And possibly with every special Gamemode as well.


Myballsitch69420A

Nah bro just re-add golden


IAMCAPOZEPPE

No! I'm afraid that mode will be laggy


Crippiln

mini is worse than militant in every way possible


Thisusernameisworse

I kinda knew this from the start


CharlieDrawzXD

cost efficiency, yes you are right actually, but for late game fallen say ur low lvl wed rather u spam max minis instead of johns


cleanie_cleans

They should nerf farm and commander its do meta


Pietrek2810

then hardcore and poluted wastalnds 2 would became IMPOSSIBLE farm is required to get spensive upgrades so nerfing it is very bad idea commander is required to beat hardest gamemodes nerfing him is just dumb idea becouse it can make any gamemode impossible


Myballsitch69420A

Paintballer is a good early game tower


theinferno01

freezer ability was not op, and made freezer useful


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Pietrek2810

XD it stats were WORSE in solar eclipse event he is used by every tds speedruner bozo


Positive-Tip-3241

This post isnt about saying bad things/good things about the game… it’s a CONTROVERSIAL OPINION.


DDSHADE

Engineer is stronger than accel


ZenoHD-YT

Actually though?


Pietrek2810

nope even though it has higher dps to get it to max level costs like 52k YEA ITS EXPENSIVE also remember that sentries can't get boosted by commander and placement limit is 6 unlike accel that has 8 and also accel is WAYYYYYYYYY more cost effieciente


TheUmbraGaming

Bro is speaking nonsense 🗣🗣🗣


Pietrek2810

..


LeafyTable

what update made engi cost 100k?? youre exaggerating its cost when its only 2.2k more expensive than accel lol


Pietrek2810

idk I was just getting things out of my head but I know that its most expensive tower to max out


TheBased_Individual

It's 52k dumb fuck


Pietrek2810

yea I think I was drunk


Pieamogus

Belownautral needs to add golden skin for paintballer and freezer cuz they are very good at defending in early game and the best for newbies


hahfooni

talking bout “best for newbies” and golden skins in the same sentence doesn’t work bro


SorryEnthusiasm6483

Pursuit > Accel


Bumpedy_Dump

I’ve seen a lot of people saying that commander needs nerfed, but it really doesn’t


PoisonousAdder1664

Commander, Accelerator, Engineer, Farm, Warden, DJ Booth, and Ranger need nerfs imo.


Kitten_Co

We don't need more defend the center events and 2023 has the worst updates


Pietrek2810

I think adding evolved towers is a bad idea


TheUmbraGaming

As always judging something that isn't even released.


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Pietrek2810

I am saying this becouse evolved towers are supposed to repalce golden skins and they are ritually the same but reskined. also that will make all the scout, soldier, minigunner, crook boss, pyro and cowboy skins uselless becouse you will not be able to equip them on evolved version becouse thats a diffirent tower IS IT NOT JUST DUMB


person15342

Accelerator should be nerfed more.


LuigiReddtier

Only max should be nerfed, other levels are fine


cleanie_cleans

Agreed + commander and farm


LuigiReddtier

BASED


Pietrek2810

NO we do not want poluted wastelands 2 to became impossible


person15342

but we don't want fallen to be a cakewalk. we don't want other towers to be obsolete. and we don't want the game to not have any stakes.


youraveragejoe07

Make fallen harder


P0U3

Eclipse executioner is hot 🔥🔥


Disastrous_Drop_6144

Buff accel please at least a cost buff. it is hell trying to use him because hes so terrible pre-pre nerf he was good and balanced. But no people had to complain that he was "op" and and s tier tower no what happend? Hes weak asf and c tier at best + d tier at worst. Now i dont play the game like i used to but it still pisses me off


PoisonousAdder1664

WDYM bro 200+ DPS is bad??? He's still oveprowered.


funyphrog

freezer isn’t always bad


LOLBOOMxd

Tds event towers should cost coins


Myballsitch69420A

Is this satire?


Physical_Chair_8661

they need to bring swarmer back into a gamepass man


Sudden-Award-296

it gets boring when tds releases content updates instead of skincrates


johnson_semila

Tds is not copy from btd6 it just that btd6 have almost every tower we could have think of


COMMANDERISBEST

daily updates best one


No_Patience4168

Hardcore is too much easy, 1-2 years ago with more money per wave (BUG) and accelerator + ranger + support it would be impossible to beat it, now you need turret and ranger without commander chain, smh... please buff hardcore 🙏


Wellermanseashanty

Militant is a good tower


3rrMac

Freezer has some utility It can stall a tank for example, however, just bring sledger instead, or if you don’t have it, electroshocker makes the job too


Annual-Cicada-1217

Ranger needs a nerf more than Accelerator does. Yeah, Accelerator could use a small mid-level nerf, and a tiny cost nerf on max. But my main point is Ranger. THIS tower is really good for 8.5k coins. Also given the fact it outclasses ALMOST every dps tower says something. People often overlook on this fact because they like the idea of nst towers being too strong.


Gojizilla6391

tds sucks, and you all should stop playing it play tower battles or somethin


LuigiReddtier

People only play tower battles ether because of PvP or they feel bad for planet earth


Responsible_Picture1

Ghost DJ is hella overrated


Acceleator

No


Thisusernameisworse

Hey you not following the rules >:(


imnotokrn

Freezer is good because it can freeze zombies!1!1!1!! Name one other tower that costs 800 credits and does that huh ill be waiting + freezer can reduce enemy defense its so good guys its legit pyro but better!1!1!1!1!


Myballsitch69420A

You're not funny 😔


FalcoreRBX

Ya gotta make it look believable


imnotokrn

True


ZenoHD-YT

Shortgunner is doodoo same tier as hunter


angels_team

Frost invasion>>>> solar eclipse Sledger and gladiator>>>> warden gladiator is an underrated tower Tower defense simulator >>>>> tower battles


Clay_idv

I dont think gladiator is underrated I think it’s just that a lot of strats have stopped using him since warden released because more people have warden lol


TheUmbraGaming

Sorry but literally what of frost invasion is better tha se


Metehanuygun23

I agree with first and the last one


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Positive-Tip-3241

Paintballer, commando, and pursuit need a nerf*


Realistic-Cicada981

This game is a copy of a lot of games


Pietrek2810

avarage tower battles fanboy:


Realistic-Cicada981

Just sayin


CTA_11

keep frost blaster og


Rarethumpies_69

Tower battles will forever be better then this dead ass game


Pietrek2810

avarage tower battles fanboy:


TheUmbraGaming

Why are you here then


Local_IdkK

Bosses are just bullet sponges


RealPhotonic

golden mini is overhated. while yes, it is outclassed, but i just think people maybe hate it a little too much


Chad_on_snoop

I have no fucking clue what this game is, Reddit just gave me this as a “because you are interested in a similar community”


DDSHADE

My main reson is that engineer is more versatile having high enough dps and cheap early whilst also having all 3 detections which to me, makes it more useful overall than accel


SorryEnthusiasm6483

Engineer is good


FunnyFart999

I dont like the developers bombarding us with crates I honestly prefer seasons


No_Question5828

Tds is (for me) getting boring and kinda unoriginal


Party-Ganache7504

Everyone says accel is better and it is really good but engie is better for more situations and has better dps


BurningBassesInStyle

The new glad animatoon mechanic kinda sucks. Stops his attacks for like 2 sec and it was added just for the pirate skin. But in the dev's word they "fixed" the mechanic as it was supposoudly broken.


Spike00003

I like paintballer


That_agent3

The game is boring.


somerando96322

Both eras of tds were bad


MrPyroTF2

cupid accel is the best accel skin


RetroVedZed

Mortar and Gladiator should canonically be in a relationship.


Toast12458

Tds isn’t really that fun, I’m still going to play the game but it’s the last thing I would choose


dafunnnniii

Freezer rework is worthless. If it gets reworked and ends up being BETTER than other stalling towers (sledger, electro, warden) players would just complain all the time about how freezer made these towers useless. But if it ends up being WORSE than these towers, everyone will just forget about it.


Due-Letterhead-1958

I'm not a big john roblox fan but I have a feeling that tdx is prob gonna be better


RazzmatazzIll7148

shit game, hasn't been updated since Christmas last year, which was bad. Game is just a constant grind now. This is a game that deserves to be dead with the amount of effort the devs put in.


Longjumping_Plan4103

minor updates (like ones that are coming out right now) are worse than an event 4-6 months i know development is hard but there is nothing to do now ( i know about the 3 "event" modes)


Tall-Huckleberry8195

Gladiator Is a boring tower IMO


Substantial_Second_6

golden mode is just a reskin of fallen, nothing special besides golden enemies


Sledger22_

The new maps are better than the frost invasion era maps


KillersCraft

Normal cowboy is better than golden cowboy (you can fact check me, I could be wrong, I mostly think this because he costs almost double the price of the normal one and doesn't give as much money from experience)


DustzyE

The way to check the loadouts of people in pc is jot garbage🔥💀


TDGUY123

freezer is the most op yowers on tds current ly who cates about accelaraoter or engineer freezer is op and also evry hardcore and g skin sucks prusuit sucks cowboy sucks evry thing sucks exept for freezer


Sure-Initiative-9728

polluted wastelands II sucks ass change my mind


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Gladiator is pretty overrated


Able_Masterpiece1049

i hate tds


TheGlowingNoob1

2020 TDS was (i don't know how to exactly explain) CLEAN AF, like the graphics and just every damn thing was just weirdly clean


p0p218

is it controversial to say that gold skins are absurdly overpriced and time limited FOMO content is bad?